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8/17/2019

Portland Protests

Filed under: General — DRJ @ 7:10 am



[Headlines from DRJ]

It’s Right-wing groups vs Antifa today in Portland:

More than two dozen local, state and federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and the Federal Protective Service, were in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday to help police there monitor a right-wing rally that’s expected to draw demonstrators from around the U.S.

Self-described anti-fascists have vowed to confront the rally while leaders from the far right urged their followers to turn out in large numbers to protest the arrests of six members of right-wing groups in the run-up to the event.

The Oregonian:

What, exactly, is going to happen?

It’s hard to say. Portland’s largest protests tend to be roving, unpredictable affairs.

But here’s what we know:

Two Florida men with large followings in the right-wing movement are holding an “End Domestic Terrorism” rally Saturday at 11 a.m. in Tom McCall Waterfront Park. An organizer said he expects up to 1,000 people show up for the event, which seeks to draw like-minded people from around the country as a show of force against self-described anti-fascists, or antifa.

Rose City Antifa, Portland’s homegrown, amorphous band of anti-fascist activists, is calling on supporters to turn out in opposition to the rally.

UPDATE: Bear spray, shields, metal poles seized at Portland protests

— DRJ

75 Responses to “Portland Protests”

  1. Oh, boy. A plethora of mommy-daddy basements will be emptying, as masked weirdos hit the streets to foppishly throw stuff at peaceful demonstrators.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  2. a right-wing rally that’s expected to draw demonstrators from around the U.S.

    Dogs all across America will enjoy a day of celibacy.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. “What, exactly, is going to happen?”

    What always happens. The violent folks will be called “anti-fascists”, incited by right wing “provocateurs”.

    Munroe (2dabdc)

  4. As a revered American statesman once said, “There are good people on both sides.”

    John B Boddie (11ac33)

  5. Fighting fascism by forming street gangs to harass and beat people they disagree with.

    harkin (58d012)

  6. Wearing face masks while chanting, slapping, pinching and running is so wimpy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  7. Some scum in Philly united to support the cop shooter.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  8. What if nothing much happens? Everybody will be disappointed.
    I think the groups should meet in some arena and slug it out in a free-for-all. It could be broadcast as a pay per view!

    Mark (077b99)

  9. @ 5 I’m going to have to go with “or the opposite of that”. 😛

    Nic (896fdf)

  10. Portland might as well put this mess on pay-per-view and make a few bucks to pay for the extra police hours. They can get some aging 60s street radical and a former National Guardsman from Kent State to provide color commentary.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  11. Hopefully the cement milkshake carnage will be kept to a minimum.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  12. Hopefully, there will be some pantifa d-bags duct taped to telephone poles just for drill.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. “Hopefully, there will be some pantifa d-bags duct taped to telephone poles just for drill.”

    Completely unsurprising that you’d fall for that. Also not terribly surprised that you’re rooting for the nazis.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  14. Even everyday Republicans doing everyday Republican stuff have earned threats from antifa. In May, Portland, Ore., had to cancel its Rose Parade because participants from the local GOP were threatened with being dragged out of the event and beaten.“

    https://dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/republicans-embrace-group-that-wants-to-destroy-them/
    __

    Who’s the Nazis?
    _

    harkin (cf32fb)

  15. scum sucking jacobin, targets andy ngo, which squid approves of, frankly so does 2/3 of the press with their lack of concern and attempts at deflection,

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. There’s nothing worse than Florida Man, unless it’s two Florida Man.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  17. Oh yes there is… https://images.app.goo.gl/r5HnuFtxSC1MJNf96

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. “targets andy ngo”

    Andy Ngo shouldn’t have been attacked, but being attacked doesn’t make his opinions any less garbage.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  19. “this is why it’s like the blank pages from they live,”

    Your article is still pushing the cement milkshake narrative

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  20. Pantifa cowards in action… https://youtu.be/JnXcupWXaAc

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. “Who’s the Nazis?”

    The ones advocating for a white ethnostate?

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  22. Anyone who defends that behavior is a soulless POS.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. Facemasked cowards.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. police ran like cats, because conservatives are unpeople, in Portland,

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. Cthulhu has returned to the deep crevasse from which he came…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. Andy Ngo shouldn’t have been attacked, but being attacked doesn’t make his opinions any less garbage.

    You’re beclowning yourself now. You ought to consider bowing out of this comment thread.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  27. I’m reading that Portland has all 1000 of its police officers on duty this afternoon, to prevent violence. Sounds like a great day to break in to a jewelry store.

    (Yeah, I know that all 1000 of them aren’t likely to be assigned to the downtown rally.)

    JVW (54fd0b)

  28. “You’re beclowning yourself now. You ought to consider bowing out of this comment thread.”

    I referenced threats against people just for being Republicans and he pulls the ‘white ethnostate’ card.

    You can’t cure some maladies.

    Someone should tell that gay Asian-American they beat up for taking pictures that he’s a Nazi.
    _

    harkin (58d012)

  29. “You’re beclowning yourself now. You ought to consider bowing out of this comment thread.”

    What’s your favorite Andy Ngo article?

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  30. “I referenced threats against people just for being Republicans and he pulls the ‘white ethnostate’ card.”

    Jacobin has talked to six people in Portland, including journalists, political officials, and activists, who described harassing messages and threats of violence resulting from Ngo’s work or political involvement in Portland. Friends of two other activists claim they went into hiding after Ngo spread their names and they became targets of harassment. Some individuals who’ve tangled publicly with Ngo are reluctant to go on the record. They say they want to avoid the “trauma” of being subjected to a new round of death threats.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/08/andy-ngo-right-wing-antifa-protest-portland-bigotry

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  31. 32 – check out your heroes today on Andy’s twitter feed (with video)
    Andy Ngo
    @MrAndyNgo
    ·
    Antifa attacks people on a bus. They try to pull them out and hit them with a hammer.
    __

    Andy Ngo
    @MrAndyNgo
    ·
    Middle-age man was maced and beaten by an antifa mob. He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His partner or spouse was trying to protect him as mob still surrounded them. No police.
    _

    The Post Millennial
    @TPostMillennial
    ·
    Man was beaten and maced by Antifa. He wandered off dazed and bloodied and collapsed in a parking lot. No authorities have helped him yet
    __

    Andy Ngo
    @MrAndyNgo
    ·
    A large antifa mob chase & attack a man & a young girl who got separated from the others. No police.
    __ _

    Andy Ngo
    @MrAndyNgo
    The aggressive antifa shirtless man who was threatening people was arrested by police. This angered the mob who said this was police bias.
    __

    harkin (58d012)

  32. I updated the post with a new link.

    DRJ (15874d)

  33. Antifa using umbrellas and windshield shades to block cameras from recording what’s going on when they gang up on someone – as Fredo said they’re just like the troops storming the Normandy beaches.

    harkin (58d012)

  34. Note APs bias… “Self-described anti-fascists” for antifa, while those Center to Right are “far right”, or “militias”, labeled as a “hate group” by the excremental SPLC.

    Screw ‘em.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  35. “while those Center to Right are “far right”, or “militias”, labeled as a “hate group” by the excremental SPLC”

    You don’t have to be a fan of antifa to recognize that the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, etc. are nazis and white supremacists. I don’t see how this is controversial.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  36. Looks like it came off as well as could be expected. No major clashes.

    Nic (896fdf)

  37. Notice the liberal/left is A-ok with political violence and AntiFa. My advice to illegal aliens or leftist who want to commit crimes, go to Portland. They’d be happy to be robbed or mugged by a “Immigrant” or Leftist. Anything for “the Cause”.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  38. They need 1000 policeman to keep 500 Antifa from attacking 50 Neo-Nazis. pathetic.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  39. Here’s an idea. Pass a law forbidding masks in public rallies. Why is antifa allowed to wear masks? Also, force the neo-nazis to pay for police protection.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  40. Portland’s pretty messed up if masked idiots wildly swinging claw hammers and mob assaulting defenseless individuals (even children) while their stooges block photographers is a mild day.

    Maybe that magazine named after the perpetrators of the Reign Of Terror can tell us how today was Andy Ngo’s fault too.

    harkin (58d012)

  41. @39 Those people who crack their eggs on the small end! They wash their children in sea water! They eat rotten tomatoes! They wear their hats on their feet! Fie! Fie on them! I thumb my nose in their direction!

    @41 A not unreasonable suggestion.

    Nic (896fdf)

  42. “You don’t have to be a fan of antifa to recognize that the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, etc. are nazis and white supremacists. I don’t see how this is controversial.”
    Davethulhu (bc6fa6) — 8/17/2019 @ 5:53 pm

    No, you just have to be a fan of media narratives. Name one Nazi or white supremacist stance that Joey Gibson has embraced.

    Munroe (20b54c)

  43. “Portland’s pretty messed up if masked idiots wildly swinging claw hammers and mob assaulting defenseless individuals (even children) while their stooges block photographers is a mild day.”

    Did a little research on these, you can see the details if you look at the replies to the tweets you linked.

    The hammer came from the guys on the bus, who some are claiming were swinging at folks as they drove around.

    The “young girl” is in fact 24 is there with her dad, John Turana aka Based Spartan. Their outfits show that they’re both clearly looking for a fight.

    Andy Ngo seems to be in the same school as James O’Keefe with his deceptive videos.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  44. No, you just have to be a fan of media narratives. Name one Nazi or white supremacist stance that Joey Gibson has embraced.

    If you’re cosponsoring demonstrations with the nancy, um proud, boys, you’re hugging it out at a minimum, full on tonsil hockey is more likely. I mean, Franco wasn’t Hitler, just Hitler adjacent.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  45. “You don’t have to be a fan of antifa to recognize that the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, etc. are nazis and white supremacists”.

    Where’s the evidence that supports this nonsense?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. “No, you just have to be a fan of media narratives. Name one Nazi or white supremacist stance that Joey Gibson has embraced.”

    Joey Gibson must be continually baffled at all the nazis and white supremacists that keep showing up at his rallies.

    The simple answer is that he provides cover.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  47. Have a look and a listen… http://proudboysusa.com/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. Same goes for the other group Cthulhu contends are “Nazis”… https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPrayerUSA/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  49. “Have a look and a listen… http://proudboysusa.com/

    The “throwing people out of helicopters” t-shirt is definitely a good look.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  50. It’s pretty simple… people who resort to covering their faces to mask their identities are not working for the common good. Criminals, e.g., bank robbers, home invaders, bomb throwers, KKK, etc., wear masks.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  51. If wearing a t-shirt that shows questionable taste was a crime, America couldn’t build prisons fast enough to keep up with the demand. What a load of horseschiff.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. Gavin McInnes is amusing, he’s pretty F-ing far from being a Nazi.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. “It’s such a rape culture with these immigrants, I don’t even think these women see it as rape. They see it as just like having a teeth [sic] pulled. ‘It’s a Monday. I don’t really enjoy it,’ but that’s what you do. I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t have the same trauma as it would for a middle-class white girl in the suburbs because it’s so entrenched into their culture.” — Gavin McInnes, Get Off My Lawn, June 19, 2018

    “Muslims have a problem with inbreeding. They tend to marry their first cousins…and that is a major problem here because when you have mentally damaged inbreds — which not all Muslims are, but a disproportionate number are — and you have a hate book called the Koran…you end up with a perfect recipe for mass murder.” — Gavin McInnes, Get Off My Lawn, April 24, 2018

    “We brought roads and infrastructure to India and they are still using them as toilets. Our criminals built nice roads in Australia but aboriginals keep using them as a bed. The next time someone bitches about colonization, the correct response is ‘You’re welcome.’”
    —Gavin McInnes, “10 Things I like About White Guys,” Taki’s Magazine, March 2, 2017

    “Well look at the canary in the coal mine called Britain. We see guys get away with raping children regularly, and they have excuses like ‘I didn’t understand the word ‘no.’’ We have a woman raped several times in one night. All these guys seem to…they don’t all get away but they seem to get away way too often. And then you have people being jailed for rude tweets and comments when they’re white, so…people in America say ‘Muslim are what? One or two percent of the population? There’s never gonna be sharia law here.’ And I say have a look at Britain. Have a look at Europe. That’s where we’re headed.”
    —Gavin McInnes, “Get Off My Lawn”, November 4, 2017

    “Maybe the reason I’m sexist is because women are dumb. No, I’m just kidding, ladies. But you do tend to not thrive in certain areas — like writing.”
    —Gavin McInnes, The Gavin McInnes Show, June 28, 2017

    “I just realized something. Cory Booker is kind of like Sambo. He’s kind of shucking and jiving for the white man. Cory Booker grew up rich in an all-white suburb. He’s basically a white guy. His parents were very wealthy executives at IBM… .But he wants to be a black dude, so he pretends that he’s down with the brothers and he acts outraged about racism all the time — for white people. That gets him votes from whites.”
    —Gavin McInnes on his CRTV show “Get Off My Lawn,” January 17, 2018

    “The white liberal ethos tells us blacks aren’t at MIT because of racism. They say blacks dominate the prison population for the same reason. They insist America is a racist hellhole where ‘people of color’ have no future. This does way more damage to black youth than the KKK. When you strip people of culpability and tell them the odds are stacked against them, they don’t feel like trying. White liberals make this worse by then using affirmative action to “correct” society’s mistakes. When blacks are forced into schools they aren’t qualified for they have no choice but to drop out. Instead of going back a step to a school they can handle, they tend to give up on higher education entirely. Thanks to the Marxist myth of ubiquitous equality, this ‘mismatch’ leaves blacks less educated than they would have been had they been left to their own devices.”
    —Gavin McInnes, “America in 2034,” American Renaissance, June 17, 2014

    “I’m not a fan of Islam. I think it’s fair to call me Islamophobic.”
    —Gavin McInnes, NBC interview, 2017

    “Palestinians are stupid. Muslims are stupid. And the only thing they really respect is violence and being tough.”
    —Gavin McInnes, The Gavin McInnes Show, March 8, 2017

    “Why don’t we take back Bethlehem? Why don’t we take back Northern Iraq? Why don’t we start our own Crusades? That’s what the Crusades were. They weren’t just someone picking on Muslims for no reason — they were a reaction to Muslim tyranny. We finally fought back.”
    —Gavin McInnes, The Gavin McInnes Show, March 8, 2017

    “Buying woman parts from a hospital and calling yourself a broad trivializes what it is to be a woman. Womanhood is not on a shelf next to wigs and makeup. Similarly, being a dude is quite involved. Ripping your vaginal canal out of your fly doesn’t mean you are going to start inventing shit and knowing how cement works. Being a man is awesome. So is being a woman. We should revere these creations, not revel in their bastardization.”
    —Gavin McInnes, “Transphobia is Perfectly Natural,” Thought Catalog, August 8, 2014

    “I am not afraid to speak out about the atrocities that whites and people of European descent face not only here in this country but in Western nations across the world. The war against whites, and Europeans and Western society is very real and it’s time we all started talking about it and stopped worrying about political correctness and optics.”
    —Kyle Chapman, who formed the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights, a wing of the Proud Boys, Unite America First Peace Rally, Sacramento, California, July 8, 2017

    “Put something on the table! Give us a reason to accept you, because you know what? Sharia law ain’t it. Raping women ain’t it. Cutting off clits ain’t it. Throwing gay people of roofs ain’t it. You are a disgrace.”
    —Pawl Bazile, a production director of Proud Boys’ magazine, on Muslims, March against Sharia rally, New York City, New York, June 10, 2017

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  54. “The simple answer is that he provides cover.”
    Davethulhu (bc6fa6) — 8/17/2019 @ 6:37 pm

    Meaning, you simply don’t have an answer — thus, a reference to “cover” bought by no media narrative ever.

    The only cover being swallowed whole is that a group of “anti-fascists”, by sheer coincidence, occupy the same space as violent nihilist thugs and communists.

    Munroe (20b54c)

  55. “It’s pretty simple… people who resort to covering their faces to mask their identities are not working for the common good.”

    I challenge you to point out where in this thread I’m defending antifa. Pointing out that their enemies (who plenty of folks in this thread are defending) are horrible is not defense.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  56. [photo of Antifa banners w hammer and sickle, symbol of system that murdered over 40 million of their fellow countrymen]

    http://www.redspark.nu/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/afa1.jpg

    harkin (58d012)

  57. “The fact that this group has exploded so quickly is a testament to how completely finished young American men and women are with apology culture. Men have tried being ashamed of themselves and accepting blame for slavery, the wage gap, ableism, and some fag-bashing that went on two generations ago, but it didn’t work. So they’re going with their gut and indulging in the natural pride that comes from being part of the greatest culture in the world. It’s very freeing to finally admit the West is the best. That’s because it’s the truth.”

    Indeed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. I challenge you, Cthulhu, to explain what makes either of these groups “Nazis”.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  59. 57 –

    Bro you quoted a Trotskyist pro-Antifa rag to smear Andy Ngo.

    You lie with the dogs, you sleep with the fleas.

    harkin (58d012)

  60. Antifa wants the freedom to wear masks, assault people and then run back like the cowards they are into their crowd who all wear the same colors and masks.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. “I challenge you, Cthulhu, to explain what makes either of these groups “Nazis”.”

    They’re nazis because their membership is filled with nazis.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  62. So you say… still no evidence.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. “Gavin McInnes is amusing, he’s pretty F-ing far from being a Nazi.”

    https://i.imgur.com/3ytQ8c7.jpg

    Let me guess, it’s ironic.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  64. Have you no sense of decency, Cthulhu?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  65. Throwing a nazi salute to own the libs.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  66. They call themselves after the faction of robespierre danton marat, that painted not only paris proper much of the countryside in blood, who look on the bolsheviks and say lets do the time warp again.

    Narciso (50a424)

  67. Yeah, no one ever has been photographed in mid-wave… or photoshopped.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  68. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKfErWhQEY

    McInnes would be familiar to anyone who has watched Greg Gutfeld, or Adam Carolla, among others.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. Which old troll is this one?

    JD (734fdd)

  70. So, here we have some actual truth, rather than Andy Ngo’s propaganda for Nazis. Because Twitter is terrible for these sort of things, I’m going to link the initial tweet and then just copy the text of the rest of the chain.

    https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1162972206147743744

    Respectable Lawyer
    @RespectableLaw
    We need to talk about this lie from Andy Ngo and why from this point forward anybody who normalizes him as a reputable person should be ridiculed.
    Andy gives us a brief video, in mid-encounter, and tells us Antifa attacked some people on a bus and hit them with a hammer.
    In reality, a bus carrying hardcore fascist militia “American Guard” was passing some counter-protestors when it stopped at a light. After an exchange of taunts, members of American Guard opened their bus door and started attacking with hammers.
    Yep, the hammers belonged to the fascist militia. And they opened up their bus door to attack people who weren’t doing anything violent.
    Andy Ngo saw this attack by fascist militia thugs, and in reporting the skirmish, he painted the fascist thugs as pitiful victims of “ANTIFA VIOLENCE!!!” This what he does. This is all he does.
    A bunch of lunatic fascist gangs are bussed into Portland. And then some thugs attack residents with a hammer. But when that same hammer quite rightly gets thrown back at them, people like Ngo now try to craft a fake story where the thugs become victims.
    And it’s been very successful. Every deranged MAGA boomer in America now thinks Antifa attacked some poor man with hammers. And this bullshit propaganda campaign owes its success to every weak-willed media person who accepted Ngo as an honest actor.
    In short, Andy Ngo creates fake horror movies to give cover for his fascist terrorist friends, and anyone who denies that should not be taken seriously.

    Plenty of supporting photos with the tweets.

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  71. Hey jd, how goes the ironman?

    Narciso (50a424)


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