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Breaking News & Off Topic Links (7/20/2019)

Filed under: General — DRJ @ 9:00 am

[From DRJ]

Let’s try something new. If this works out, I will do similar posts in the future.

This post is for everyone who wants to share a link to a breaking news story or to an interesting news story/blog post that is not related to a current post. Put your link in the comments and, if you want, a brief discussion of why it is important or interesting. Discussion about any links is welcome here, too.

Please use this post for breaking news and off topic links so they will be easier to find, instead of leaving them in the comments of other posts.


70 Responses to “Breaking News & Off Topic Links (7/20/2019)”

  1. I don’t have anything to share right now, but I think this is a great idea.

    Dave (1bb933)

  2. Do Trump supporters, both the Walmart and Target wings, know that we are importing water from Mexico?

    nk (dbc370)

  3. I did not know that, nk. We import discount water! It must cost less to do that but that is mind boggling.

    DRJ (15874d)

  4. Thanks, Dave. I hope it works to keep the other comment threads from wandering too much, but offer everyone a chance to contribute. I know I will check here for ideas to post on and learn from. There will be a much bigger content pool with more people contributing.

    DRJ (15874d)

  5. Do Trump supporters, both the Walmart and Target wings, know that we are importing water from Mexico?

    Sapping and impurifying our precious bodily fluids!

    Dave (1bb933)

  6. Do Trump supporters, both the Walmart and Target wings, know that we are importing water from Mexico?

    I’m a Californian, so stealing water from other places comes naturally to me.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  7. I was reading the Golf Course press avail that Trump did when asked about Iran/UK and…WTF.

    Q What do you mean one or two sanctions this evening?

    THE PRESIDENT: Say it, Steve.

    Q What do you mean one or two sanctions this evening? What are you talking about — an agreement with the UK? Is that like a mutual defense agreement?

    THE PRESIDENT: So we’re going to be speaking with the UK. And this only goes to show what I’m saying about Iran: trouble. Nothing but trouble. And remember this: The agreement — the ridiculous agreement made by President Obama expires in a very short period of time. It was a short-term agreement.

    When you’re dealing in countries, you have to deal in 50 years and 100 years. You don’t deal in the short term. That was a ridiculous agreement. And it goes to show you I was right about Iran. And let’s see what happens.

    But I know that it’s not an American ship; it’s UK. I guess it could be one, could be two. And we’ll be speaking to them. They have a new prime minister coming soon, and that’s a good thing for the UK.

    After the 15 years, the treaty will come to its term; then the extraordinary restrictions will no longer be applicable. At that time, in 2030, it is understood that people involved in the 1979 revolution will no longer be politically active.

    So, instead of 15 years, you know, short term, Trump managed to get Iran to bypass the limitations in 2, with no prospect of future limitations, and increased chaos in the Gulf, now.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  8. Heh. Clever Californian.

    DRJ (15874d)

  9. What does that even mean, Colonel? It is incoherent.

    DRJ (15874d)

  10. When you’re dealing in countries, you have to deal in 50 years and 100 years. You don’t deal in the short term.

    Does he think foreign policy is like a long-term real estate lease? Does he really believe nations make agreements that never change for 50 or 100 years?

    DRJ (15874d)

  11. Does he think foreign policy is like a long-term real estate lease? Does he really believe nations make agreements that never change for 50 or 100 years?

    I don’t know, I mean I have no idea what he means, or intends to mean. I think he’s an idiot, he knows nothing, but the stream of consciousness idiocy of the last 2 weeks is worse than…who am I kidding, he’s no more of a moron today than he’s been the last 3 years, so a complete one.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  12. The irony of course is that you do have to be thinking about long-term objectives when dealing with a country like Iran, but all you can really control is the short-term policy. You are right that the President seems incoherent on this policy; hopefully his team has a better approach that they are tutoring him on.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  13. 50 years ago, The US was funding, arming, and the main ally of…Iran. 50 years from now we may again, or not.

    100 years ago we traveled the world on steam ships, electricity was a luxury, people born into slavery in the South were retiring, people who fought in the civil war were still around.

    In 1919:

    The Boston Molasses Disaster: A wave of molasses released from an exploding storage tank sweeps through Boston, killing 21 and injuring 150.

    Pancho Villa attacks Ciudad Juárez. When the bullets begin to fly to the U.S. side of the border, 2 units of the U.S. 7th Cavalry Regiment cross the border and repulse Villa’s forces.

    Prohibition begins: The United States Congress passes the Volstead Act over President Woodrow Wilson’s veto.

    US President Wilson promises eventual independence for Philippines, though subsequent Republican administrations see it as a distant goal.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  14. But he is President so we have to try to figure out what he means or where he is coming from. It is our lives and livelihoods he is impacting. My impression of Trump is that he either:

    1. Says what his gut as a NY real estate person has taught him, or

    2. Says what he has heard his family or advisors tell him, but it is often a rambling, garbled version.

    I try to pick out the words and phrases he uses to guess about their origin. In this case, his focus is on short-term vs long-term. That is common in real estate. It is not typically a foreign policy concern. Thus, my guess is he has somehow decided that dealing with Iran is like negotiating a real estate deal. It isn’t.

    DRJ (15874d)

  15. The bureau can’t venture a motive over the greatest non terrorist slaughter in recent memory but it follows this snipe hunt

    Narciso (c67b88)

  16. 50 years ago, the kingdom was our ally, thanks to carters foolish mismanagement they became out foe.about 80 years we tried to make a deal with the nationalist regime in Mexico, less than a decade later they nationalized our concessions

    Narciso (c67b88)

  17. 50 years ago, the kingdom was our ally, thanks to carters foolish mismanagement they became out foe.about 80 years we tried to make a deal with the nationalist regime in Mexico, less than a decade later they nationalized our concessions

    It’s almost like the squirrel is admitting that 50 years is a lllooonnnggg time, and a dummy can incur long term damage in a single term, and Trump makes 218 year old Carter look like a genius.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  18. Hope Hicks’ problem is that she may have admitted lying for Trump. If that is true, she is no longer a credible witness when it comes to Trump and his interests.

    DRJ (15874d)

  19. Re the bottle water, Penafiel is likely shipped to Wally and Target in markets with a large number of Mexican and Mexican descendended shoppers (or goofy hipsters, who are causing a run on Mexican coca cola and Topo Chico mineral water). I only know that brand from visits to abarrotes (corner stores) with the inlaws down there. One might say self-selected poison. Penefiel is an ethnic affinity brand, not the regional dominant brand like a Zephyrhills (Southeast) or Ice Mountain (Great Lakes area).

    urbanleftbehind (9fa007)

  20. the narrative must prevail over the truth,

    The NYT list he cites is “for the week ending July 12, 2019″.

    The Publisher’s Weekly data that supposedly proves an evil conspiracy is for “week 29 of 2019, data through 07/20/2019″, i.e. the following week.

    “the narrative” is your latest bizarre conspiracy theory; the truth is something else entirely…

    P.S. The Publisher’s Weekly data shows America’s Reluctant Prince: The Life of John F. Kennedy, Jr (which came out the same week) at #6, while the NYT lists it down at #7.

    So I guess the NY Times is fudging data against the Kennedys, too…

    Dave (1bb933)

  21. Allahpundit surveys some interesting pointy-headed prognostications:

    Estimate: Trump could lose by five million votes next fall and still win reelection

    How does Trump lose by five million votes and win a second term? Simple, argues analyst Dave Wasserman. Although the country is changing demographically in ways that benefit Democrats electorally, those changes happen to be concentrated in states that are either already safely blue or so safely red — for the moment — that there’s little chance of flipping them in 2020. The two obvious examples are California and Texas. The Democratic nominee’s going to run up the score in Cali next fall, winning the state by many millions of votes (particularly, perhaps, if state native Kamala Harris is the nominee). And Democrats are likely to make gains in Texas as the electorate there turns more Latino, further padding the nominee’s national popular-vote total. But unless there are enough gains to actually turn Texas blue, which is unlikely, so what? Dems will enjoy a windfall of popular votes in both states and it won’t matter a lick in terms of electoral votes.


    There are other diversifying states that work better for Dems. Arizona is basically purple now, having broken for Trump by just three and a half points in 2016 and then elected a Democrat to Jeff Flake’s vacant seat two years later. Yuppies moving to North Carolina will keep that state competitive for liberals too. And of course there’s Florida, although that’s been trending Republican for two straight elections thanks to migration by white retirees. The hard truth for Dems, says Wasserman, is that even if they manage to flip Michigan and Pennsylvania, partially restoring the “blue wall,” Trump can still win a second term by holding Wisconsin and every other state he won in 2016 plus Maine’s 2nd congressional district. 271-269. Enjoy the popular-vote consolation prize, lefties. Again.

    Dave (1bb933)

  22. Iowa is too goofy for me (even after this, they stay stupid) to be confident, and if Iowa goes goofy, Wisconsin is doubly so. Bidens appeal doesn’t go much past Lansing and Dowegiac, so there’s that.

    If DCSCA is prescient re Big Black SUV (sung to the beat of Little Red Corvette because she rolls like that, I’ve heard) being added to the ticket, the Dems should beat the Rs to the punch and Veep Gabbard.

    urbanleftbehind (9fa007)

  23. 21… so you argue that the NYT is totally above board on reporting book sales figures. LOL.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. Ulb,

    How is that stupid? It sounds like a candidate for Patterico’s Deport the Criminals First file, and part of that series is that they can’t hurt Americans if they aren’t here.

    DRJ (15874d)

  25. No, you misunderstand, Col.. I think Iowans tend to not (bad metaphor warning) pull the trigger and change their laws in order to minimize this from happening. Thus other than Steve King and a few others, no meaningful change, and some might even shrug if the more this more recent killer’s prey was also illegal or anchor (likely, given names and shared house arrangement). The killer of Tibbetts got lucky, the parents were such squishes. Is corn detassling and hog processing that dreadful a workplace environment? Or “But Tarriffs”, will be the rally cry.

    urbanleftbehind (9fa007)

  26. 21… so you argue that the NYT is totally above board on reporting book sales figures.

    Reading comprehension failure on your part. I said nothing of the sort.

    I said the so-called evidence for some kind of nefarious conspiracy that was offered does not show what was claimed.

    I also showed that by applying the same flawed reasoning and evidence, one could “uncover” another apparent conspiracy that does not pass the laugh test.

    Dave (1bb933)

  27. Good link and good for Clint Eastwood, mg.

    DRJ (15874d)

  28. Good link and good for Clint Eastwood, mg.

    Seems kind of deceptive/click-baity to me.

    The title and opening of the article are:

    Clint Eastwood to film his latest movie in Georgia despite Hollywood boycott

    Despite Hollywood’s hissy fit over recent pro-life laws passed in Georgia, the legendary director has decided to shoot his new film there

    These first two lines strongly suggest that Eastwood personally made the call.

    If you read down to the bottom, though, there is an anodyne statement issued by a nameless Warner media contact, and the author of the piece admits there isn’t a shred of evidence that Eastwood himself had anything to do with the decision:

    It’s not totally clear if the decision was made by Clint Eastwood personally or if the studio is merely covering for the fact that it would be too expensive for the studio to do more location scouting as the film is going into production.

    Since the film is about Richard Jewell and the Atlanta Olympics bombing, it would probably be a major hassle AND a noticeable hit to the bottom line to change location at the last minute before production starts.

    The “threat” Warner issued was highly conditional in the first place:

    “We operate and produce work in many states and within several countries at any given time, and while that doesn’t mean we agree with every position taken by a state or country and their leaders, we do respect due process,” WarnerMedia said Thursday in a statement. “We will watch the situation closely, and if the new law holds we will reconsider Georgia as the home to any new productions. As is always the case, we will work closely with our production partners and talent to determine how and where to shoot any given project.”

    Note “if the new law holds”. The Georgia law would not have even gone into effect until 2020, and was blocked on July 3. It will presumably be tied up in court for the foreseeable future.

    Dave (1bb933)

  29. Will Trump Dump Pence, Run With Ivanka Next Year?

    Deny the vice president a second term and put your daughter on the ticket, then quit if you’re elected so she can pardon you and live out the mutual dynastic fantasy. Is this too far-fetched or crazy even for Donald Trump? Not if you’ve been paying close attention.

    After all, they’ve been working hard on some elevation campaign for the Favorite Child. There she was, all over the G20 summit in June, already playing vice president, or secretary of great, or something. Ivanka wedged herself not only into meetings with world leaders but official photographs as well — her intentions were about as subtle as a Trump tweet.

    Mike Pence, eager to frequently mention Trump’s broad shoulders, should watch his back. Trump refused on Fox News last month to endorse the veep for his own run in 2024, and stood in front of “Trump 2020” signs at his campaign kickoff rally in Orlando. The conspicuous lack of Pence’s name should have puzzled the loyal No. 2, who had just appeared on stage with his wife to introduce the president.

    I confess, it would be satisfying to see Pence get the reward he deserves, and I seriously doubt there’s a millimeter of daylight between Daddy’s Little Girl and AOC on policy matters, so the whole socialist/green new deal thing would just get absorbed straight into TrumpWorld.

    Nationalism & Socialism, together again at last: what could go wrong?

    Dave (1bb933)

  30. A.B. and her readers need help. Send in the false teeth!

    mg (8cbc69)

  31. You’re an enabler of extortionists dave

    Narciso (c67b88)

  32. An American spent a month in Spain and came away with 21 interesting reflections. Here’s #1:

    1. Overall, Spain was richer and more functional than I expected. The grocery stores are very well-stocked; the worst grocery store I saw in Spain offered higher quality, more variety, and lower prices than the best grocery store I saw in Denmark, Sweden, or Norway. Restaurants are cheap, even in the tourist areas. Almost all workers I encountered did their jobs with a friendly and professional attitude. There is near-zero violent crime, though many locals warned us about pickpockets.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  33. East Chicago IN is the Newark/Jersey City of Chicago.

    urbanleftbehind (9fa007)

  34. Paul,

    I really enjoyed that link, and it confirms and explains similar things I’ve heard from Spaniards I know. Spain truly is Europe’s best kept secret.

    DRJ (15874d)

  35. Spain truly is Europe’s best kept secret.

    My daughter’s teammate is Catalonian, and it’s been a real treat getting to know her and her siblings.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  36. Good question: Muslim countries joined China in defending its cultural genocide of Uighurs. Aren’t they ashamed?

    At a session of the U.N. Human Rights Council this month, 22 mostly Western ambassadors joined in a letter expressing concern about China’s mass detentions in the Xinjiang region and calling for “meaningful access” for “independent international observers.” It was another tepid gesture in what has been a weak international effort to respond to Beijing’s campaign of cultural genocide against the Uighur ethnic group and other Muslim minorities.
    What was remarkable was what came next. Four days later, countries recruited by Beijing delivered their own letter to the council, signed by 37 ambassadors, which endorsed what it whitewashed as a “counter-terrorism and de-radicalization” operation and claimed that “the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded.” The signatories included the usual global rogue’s gallery — Cuba, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela. But a dozen Muslim governments also joined in — thereby sanctioning one of the largest assaults on Islam in modern times.
    The statement represents a shameful capitulation by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria and other majority-Muslim states that frequently pose as defenders of the faith — especially when it involves condemning Israel. And it offers an augur of what international affairs will look like if the Chinese regime of Xi Jinping realizes its global ambitions: a world where most states meekly submit to Beijing’s dictates and endorse its crimes.

    The Chinese are holding over a million Muslims in concentration camps, where they are being “reeducated” and de-Islamized. I haven’t heard Trump call that out, or our State Department, and I follow the news pretty closely. This makes all of Trump’s anti-Muslim acts and words pale before what Xi has been doing.
    And speaking of China, I haven’t read Michael Yon for years but there he is in Hong Kong, describing the situation.

    As I keep saying over and over, I expect this to get more violent. You might remember that during one of my live streams of a recent Hong Kong protest that I actually was keeping an eye out for potential bombs — which in reality is a near impossible job in an unfamiliar place during protest chaos.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  37. Prophet vs. profit, Paul?

    nk (dbc370)

  38. This should entertain our local Luddites:

    ‘This is our last stand.’ Protesters on Mauna Kea dig in their heels

    It’s been nearly a week since construction of a massive telescope atop Hawaii’s Mauna Kea was scheduled to begin.

    But throngs of protesters — or protectors, as they prefer to be called — have joined together to block construction of the Thirty Meter Telescope.

    Kaho’okahi Kanuha, a leader of the group, told CNN on Sunday that organizers believe more than 2,000 people have assembled at the Mauna Kea access road, where they’ve built a makeshift camp and blockade in hopes of preventing construction from getting underway.

    It’s a conflict years in the making. Scientists see Mauna Kea as a prime location for peering into the deep reaches of space. But for some native Hawaiians, the dormant volcano, the highest peak in Hawaii, is sacred ground.

    Astronomers *spits* … there goes the neighborhood!”

    Dave (1bb933)

  39. Prophet vs. profit, Paul?

    Obviously the latter. It’s always good to spotlight the hypocrisy of Muslim-majority countries.

    Narciso (5d1b28) – 7/21/2019 @ 8:47 pm

    Found one! Actually, Pompeo & Co. have said some things from time to time. Trump, however, leader of the free world and GOP standard-bearer, has said nothing. You would think he would use their ethnic cleansing and Hong Kong oppression to leverage a better trade deal, but alas.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  40. The Catalans I met in Europe were pretty hard-core nativists, similar to Scots in their insistence on a distinct identity.

    Dave (1bb933)

  41. Again /s, but only 81.8%

    Found one! Actually, Pompeo & Co. have said some things from time to time. Trump, however, leader of the free world and GOP standard-bearer, has said nothing. You would think he would use their ethnic cleansing and Hong Kong oppression to leverage a better trade deal, but alas.

    What catches the envious eye?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  42. Trump, however, leader of the free world and GOP standard-bearer, has said nothing.

    We should probably content ourselves with the fact that he didn’t join all his buddies (Putin, LRM, MBS, etc) in signing the letter…

    Dave (1bb933)

  43. Well the events of seotember 11, 1715, ring in their heads as if it was yesterday

    So what was happening under great humanitarian Obama with China, mostly NC 17 things

    Narciso (5d1b28)

  44. Javelin missiles to the Ukraine, shattered private mercs in Syria, two air strikes at the other end of Syria, but Obama he spoke so nicely and signified nothing

    Narciso (5d1b28)

  45. I look forward to Monday… we shall see what new terror lies in the hearts of Democrats, media operatives and their NeverTrump catchfarts.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. Bolton and Pompeo are the mailed fist, contrasting witn the velvet glove.

    Narciso (5d1b28)

  47. He ‘reaches into their innermind…outer limits’ like the kwitzach haderach, crossed metaphors. Meanwhile Jeremy hunt is figuring through his etonian?? mien, this deal with Iran wasnt too smart.

    Narciso (5d1b28)

  48. You mean sequined glove
    Never mind, sorry, too easy.
    Speaking of too easy has he had any more love letters from Kim Jon Un?
    Darn, there I go again, sorry again, it’s just that some jokes just tell themselves, like the spells in the Octavio.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. …contrasting witn the velvet glove.
    Funny how Trump is the “velvet glove” with dictators like Xi, Putin, bin Salman, Duterte and Kim, while he’s the “mailed fist” with real allies such as Mexico, Canada and the EU. I supposed that’s the Way of the Bully.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  50. Graph of the Day (link).
    The CBO pegs our national debt at 92% of GDP in ten years, the highest in American history except for a few years during WWII. Not counting the countries with less than a million people, right now we have the 10th highest debt levels on the planet. The only non-dysfunctional nation with more debt than us is Japan. Not good (h/t Turley). Even the pro-Trump WSJ editorial board is urping over it.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  51. I posted this a few days ago, but in an aging thread so not sure if anybody saw it.

    Mark Sanford has a link on his homepage to a little toy that allows you to try “fixing” the budget, defined as reducing the national debt to 70% of GDP in 10 years, and 40% of GDP by 2050. Without changes, the debt will be 97% of GDP in 10 years, and 160% by 2050. Hitting the short term goal requires about finding almost $8T in budget savings or additional revenue in the next ten years.

    The site is run by the “Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget”, a bi-partisan (I guess) think-tank.

    There are a lot of different policy choices you can make, involving all areas of the federal budget, cutting or increasing spending or taxes, reforming various entitlement programs, etc. Of course, some assumptions are involved, but it looks plausible, gives an idea of the scope of the problem, and a decent starting point for discussion.

    (Spoiler: you won’t even come close to the targets without raising taxes and/or reforming/cutting entitlements)

    Dave (1bb933)

  52. It looks like the projections assumed in my link are identical to the CBO link Paul posted (debt = 160% of GDP in 2050).

    Dave (1bb933)

  53. The democrats should hire Dave to run their Americans sukc campaign.

    mg (8cbc69)

    This dope is as annoying as mittens.

    mg (8cbc69)

  55. And yet, had Trump lost, Baykah or Hogan would be pushed as the prime contender for next year.

    urbanleftbehind (435973)

  56. The republican party in Ma. is fake.

    mg (8cbc69)

  57. I am learning a lot because of the links and comments here. Thank you.

    DRJ (15874d)

    And I thought N A Beer was just for people who don’t drink alcohol.

    mg (8cbc69)

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