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7/19/2019

Political Common Ground

Filed under: Politics — DRJ @ 11:00 am



[Headline from DRJ]

This is from two days ago when Democrats were struggling to deal with President Trump’s rhetoric about “The Squad”:

The Memo: Democrats debate Trump response – ‘Being righteous and losing sucks’:

President Trump is set to ramp up his rhetoric at a rally in Greenville, N.C., on Wednesday evening.

Democrats, in turn, are weighing how to respond.

‘Being righteous and losing sucks’

This is a very pragmatic thought. Principles and morality seem unimportant, maybe even stupid, when we are desperate and our focus is solely on survival or winning. Pragmatism gets us from where we are to where we want to be, efficiently and without angst.

Do some Republicans and some Democrats have this attitude in common now?

— DRJ

36 Responses to “Political Common Ground”

  1. What some Republicans (or former Republicans) and Democrats have in common now is an obvious belief that a spontaneous, dumbass chant means it can be proven that Trump supporters who don’t jump to denounce it are racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  2. There was nothing homophobic about the chant – you’re in the clear there, Colonel!

    Dave (1bb933)

  3. How are your Tupperware parties going, Dave?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. “… a very pragmatic thought.”

    :-)

    “I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.” – G.S.Patton [George C. Scott] ‘Patton’ 1970

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  5. OT- Breaking; Iran drives British flagged tanker into their territorial waters and seizes ship & cargo.

    Crude move, old bean.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  6. I think most Republicans and most Democrats have this attitude in common now.

    Gryph (08c844)

  7. tanker war 2 electric boogaloo,

    they will yell squirrel, like always, like they did with keith Ellison, whose 9/11 reports from his girlfriend are clearly available, it helps when people who should know better, misrepresent the matter,

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. Oh, Canada…

    “Broadway star Patti LuPone has been slammed online for telling U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham to “bite the bullet and come out.”

    Graham has been hitting headlines for her defence of Donald Trump despite his recent racist tweets towards four Democratic congresswomen of colour.

    However, that doesn’t excuse LuPone’s recent tweet, social media insisted.”

    https://etcanada.com/news/476207/broadway-star-patti-lupone-gets-slammed-online-over-homophobic-tweet-about-u-s-senator-lindsey-graham/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. they will yell squirrel, like always, like they did with keith Ellison, whose 9/11 reports from his girlfriend are clearly available, it helps when people who should know better, misrepresent the matter,

    So says the shrieking squirrel.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  10. its something that haooened in that same district, Farrakhan and cair supporter, deputy dnc chair, now atty general, so what else are we talking about,

    narciso (d1f714)

  11. “Do some Republicans and some Democrats have this attitude in common now?”
    — DRJ

    Now? As opposed to when? Specifics help.

    Munroe (0b2761)

  12. so that resolution, that blamed everything including the dreyfus case, but not omar’s conduct, that’s the definition of squirrel, her attack on us servicemen on un deployment in Mogadishu, the fact she presented an bds resolution this week,

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. you can hide that rhetoric triggered that dutch folksinger to immolate himself, like a buddhist monk, you could hear a pin drop in that room,

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. for all the lives he’s destroyed, mind you he isn’t the worst actor, but one of them,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7264211/Mexican-president-calls-El-Chapos-life-term-inhumane.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. its something that haooened in that same district, Farrakhan and cair supporter, deputy dnc chair, now atty general, so what else are we talking about

    Look, a squirrel

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  16. for all the lives he’s destroyed, mind you he isn’t the worst actor, but one of them,

    It’s a squirrel stampede!!! RUN!!

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  17. Now? As opposed to when? Specifics help.

    Actually, asking if something is true “now” requires no specification of “as opposed to when”.

    Something true now is true now, without reference to any other time, past or present.

    Dave (1bb933)

  18. I think the sense that many Republicans have is akin to something Scalia wrote for the Supreme Court in an important First Amendment case:

    [The government] has no such authority to license one side of a debate to fight freestyle, while requiring the other to follow Marquis of Queensbury Rules.

    While not a First Amendment issue per se (since there is no govt. action), there is a sense, I think, that one side is being held to standards the other is not. So the proverbial gloves are coming off.

    Bored Lawyer (44d9c7)

  19. Marquess

    Dave (1bb933)

  20. “Something true now is true now, without reference to any other time, past or present.”
    Dave (1bb933) — 7/19/2019 @ 1:11 pm

    Water is wet now.

    Got it.

    Munroe (0b2761)

  21. The problem the Democrats have is that they constructed an echo chamber for the Nation, and too many of tyem cnvinced themselves that opinions outside that echo chamber were beyond the pale and unworthy of argument.

    And in a Democratic Republic it isn’t good enough to be Right. You also have to be convincing, or you are going to lose a lot.

    Take immigration, for example. A lot of the Progressive Left likes to say that people are not illegal. And that’s a fine sentiment. But illegal immigrants have, in fact, broken the law. It may not be a GOOD law, but it exists. And by insisting on calling illegal immigrants ‘undocumented’, or using some other euphemism, the Progressive Left ensures that the people who, rightly or wrongly, are worried about the illegal immigrants STOP LISTENING.

    Then the Progressive Left calls such people evil names, ensuring that they won’t listen again anytime soon.

    C. S. P. Schofield (f7316d)

  22. Trump recants yesterday’s non-apology apology

    As a humble reminder, I used my atom-splitting psychic powers to predict this here:

    We know how this plays out.
    1) Trump says/does something indefensible
    2) Aides convince him he f’ed up
    3) Goes on teevee to issue insincere apology and deny doing what he did
    4) Sees people on FoxNews saying he caved to pressure
    5) Goes back on teevee, repeats/defends what he originally did, then says/does something even worse

    …and now it has come to pass!

    Dave (1bb933)

  23. 19… lol… now filed in Buckaroo Banzai drop file, right behind “wherever you go, there you are”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. Now? As opposed to when? Specifics help.

    Actually, asking if something is true “now” requires no specification of “as opposed to when”.

    Something true now is true now, without reference to any other time, past or present.
    Dave (1bb933) — 7/19/2019 @ 1:11 pm

    You know, as in “are you beating your wife, now?”

    Which means the response: “As opposed to when? Be specific.” Seems ridiculous.

    felipe (023cc9)

  25. It depends on what the meaning of “is” is. As in “there is no sexual relationship with Roy Cohn”.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. Very clever, there was an Arthur Geiger type at state, Carmel offie he was the company liaison to projects like paperclip and bloodstone, they dismissed him in 1950.

    Narciso (c67b88)

  27. Munroe,

    I am making a comparison but it isn’t “now vs then,” it is “Democrats now vs Republicans now.” You can suggest a different comparison but you need to explain/discuss it because it’s your comparison, not mine.

    DRJ (15874d)

  28. In 1948, Truman said Dewey was ‘from the people that brought you Hitler and tojo’ mind this is the party that had harbored multiple Soviet spy networks since 1933, Sally Quinn’s father tried to invite Goldwater to berchesgarden, what implication there.

    Narciso (c67b88)

  29. Because Reagan had an early appearance in neshoba Mississippi, as a favor to trent Lott’s, they tagged him with being supportive of segregationist.

    Narciso (c67b88)

  30. Trump learned well from Bill Clinton about the concept of “righteous and losing”. Hillary learned it, too, but she was too sh**ty and charmless of a politician to pull it off.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  31. Happy Saturday! What kinda fustercluck awaits us today?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  32. You could drown in the crocodile tears, CBS and the other nets are spilling for the fedayeen gang

    Narciso (c67b88)


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