Rep. Al Green Introduces Articles Of Impeachment, House Vote ExpectedToday (UPDATE ADDED)
[guest post by Dana]
Hoo boy, this is exactly what Nancy Pelosi had worked hard to avoid, and she is compelled by House rules to respond to it:
Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) introduced articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump over his racist tirade against four progressive congresswomen of color, setting up a potential showdown in the Democratic-controlled House.
The Texas lawmaker read the articles aloud on the House floor Tuesday night, citing the president’s “go back” to other countries rant against the freshman lawmakers known as “the Squad” as one reason to move forward.
″Donald John Trump by causing such harm to the society of the United States is unfit to be president and warrants impeachment, trial and removal from office,” Green said on the House floor. He accused the president of bringing “contempt, ridicule, disgrace and disrepute” to the office.
Under House rules, Green can force the chamber to act on his resolution within two legislative days. He has called for an up-or-down vote. House leadership could vote to table it or refer it to the Judiciary Committee.
While 86 House Democrats support launching a formal impeachment inquiry, Pelosi continues to oppose the move on the grounds that it would be “too politically divisive and would never lead to conviction and removal in a Republican-controlled Senate.” Democrats are also concerned that Green is jumping the gun on this, and that when it fails on the floor, any momentum for impeachment will be gone.
Ed Morrissey suggests the up-or-down vote on impeachment might be the least worst-option for Pelosi:
Rip the Band-Aid off quickly, let the bill die, and hope that there’s enough time ahead of the election to have this fade into distant memory. Trump would claim vindication from it, but that’s got a shelf life too. The closer this drags on to the election, the worse it gets for Pelosi.
The vote is expected to happen sometime today :
House could vote in 5pm hour to table Al Green impeachment resolution. Doing so would effectively kill it, though the exact form is still being discussed. Vote schedule not final yet. Also McCarthy told us he expects all Rs to vote to kill resolution
UPDATE: The House voted to table impeachment resolution against Trump, per Politico’s Jake Sherman:
332-95. A bipartisan vote to table the impeachment resolution.
The 332-95 vote showcased the stark divide among Democrats, who split over the vote to kill the impeachment measure. Ninety-five Democrats — a little more than 40% of the Democratic caucus — voted against tabling it, or to keep it alive. That’s more Democrats who voted against tabling similar resolutions in 2017 (58) and 2018 (66). No Republicans voted to keep it alive.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (bb0678) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:09 pmAre racist tweets “high crimes” or “misdemeanors?”
Advocaat (33a09d) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:12 pmGo for it! Lets vote everybody on the record. Child endangerment and kidnapping children are crimes.
lany (288dba) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:19 pmPOTUS hands out Medals of Freedom; Congress hands him Badge of Honor.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:51 pmI couldn’t find anything about this impeachment vote at the New York Times website. Highly curious. I guess they want to keep it on the downlow?
norcal (b50285) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:54 pmSo, riddle me this:
If Trump’s tweets had nothing to do with race, why didn’t he go after socialism’s lily-white Big Brother, aka Bernie Sanders?
Sanders has been saying the same things, being very critical of America (not sure if he’s ever called it “a hellhole”, as Trump did in 2015, but still) and for much longer.
Sanders is the true vanguard of the proletariat who Made Socialism Great Again and opened the door for the likes of Comrades AOC and Tlaib. As a senator and a first-tier presidential candidate, he’s also far more politically relevant than random first-term congresswomen.
So why does Bernie get a pass while the four ethnic minority women are told to GTFO?
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:11 pmDiabolical.
And they almost got away with it, too!
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:17 pmI couldn’t find anything about this impeachment vote at the New York Times website. Highly curious. I guess they want to keep it on the downlow?
norcal (b50285) — 7/17/2019 @ 1:54 pm
I’ve read families generally strive to keep family members’ struggles with mental illness out of the spotlight.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:24 pmmanifest craziness shouldn’t be given a wide berth,
meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2019/07/john-solomon-fbi-knew-dossier-was-bogus.html
narciso (d1f714) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:26 pmHouse voting on motion to table ‘impeachment.’
Meh; yellow on Green.
‘Courage.’ – Dan Rather, CBS News, 9/1/86.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:40 pmHe has said plenty about “Crazy Bernie” in the past…
So I don’t think he’s getting a “pass”.
whembly (51f28e) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:42 pmHas he ever said that Bernie isn’t from America, slandered the country his ancestors emigrated from (e.g. Russia) as “crime-infested”, and told him to go back there instead of criticizing the United States?
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:52 pmDoc Brown, which is a very charitable nic, is the Fagin to this girl gang, that are the destiny’s child of capital hill
narciso (d1f714) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:53 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/us/politics/house-impeachment-trump.html
Kishnevi (2f1397) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:53 pmUPDATE: The House voted to table impeachment resolution against Trump, per Politico’s Jake Sherman:
332-95. A bipartisan vote to table the impeachment resolution.
From CNN:
The 332-95 vote showcased the stark divide among Democrats, who split over the vote to kill the impeachment measure. Ninety-five Democrats — a little more than 40% of the Democratic caucus — voted against tabling it, or to keep it alive. That’s more Democrats who voted against tabling similar resolutions in 2017 (58) and 2018 (66). No Republicans voted to keep it alive.
Dana (bb0678) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:56 pm@11, redux
The point being, sure, he’s criticized Bernie’s politics.
If he had called AOC, et al crazy, leftist, socialist, etc. without telling them (in effect) “get back on the boat and go home”, we wouldn’t be talking about it.
But that’s not what he did.
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 2:58 pmBTW Google says that NYT link was published “four hours ago”, not only before norcal’s question but before the main post was published.
In this case Google actually is to blame. I searched it for “house impeachment vote” and was given CNN, the Gaurdian, the Hill, Vox and a few other sites. But no NY Time came up until I added “ny times” to the search query. Perhaps the Grey Lady no longer meets Google’s standards.
Kishnevi (2f1397) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:00 pmhe wouldn’t really be welcome in modern Russia today,
https://saraacarter.com/republican-immigrant-from-jamaica-is-challenging-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-in-2020/
narciso (d1f714) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:01 pm@15. F-Troop vs. McHale’s Navy.
He’s gonna beat the rap[s].
Trump/Haley 2020.
Place your bets.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:06 pmSo their “solidarity” didn’t even last three days…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:13 pmRead my lips:
nk (dbc370) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:16 pmThe
Democrats
Desperately
Want
To
Run
Against
Trump
And
Nobody
Else
In
2020
DCSCA, at this point it is far more interesting to speculate on the official rationale for the switch, the manner in which Race Bannon finds out, and what his next gig will be. But if Herr Leader is getting solid mileage on this jag, does nominating a brown female although Sikh undercut the overtone?
urbanleftbehind (283670) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:17 pmWhat happened to Amash’s principles
steveg (354706) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:19 pmpence’s son is the liason for latin affairs in south florida, yes that’s not happening at least in the near term,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:19 pmYou either end up like John Boehner or Ben Shapiro in that post, Nars.
urbanleftbehind (283670) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:21 pmbachelet does the carter part rather effortlessly,
https://babalublog.com/2019/07/16/the-cubazuela-debacle-cubas-castro-regime-struggles-to-keep-its-venezuelan-puppet-dictator-in-power/
narciso (d1f714) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:27 pmWell, that didn’t take long. 218 votes are required to impeach, and this resolution only got 95, all from Democrats. It was a weak resolution to begin with, complaint over comments the House already voted to condemn a few days ago. Nothing about the Mueller report, obstruction of justice charges, which is why Amash, who has called for impeachment on those grounds, voted against it.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:55 pmAl Green, Let’s Stay Together”.
nk (dbc370) — 7/17/2019 @ 3:56 pm20 Dems qualified (again) for the next debates.
Montana Gov. Bullock replacing Swalwell is the only change from last time.
Lineup for the two nights will be drawn tomorrow night. They’re doing it in three tiers this time, to make sure that the popular candidates and nobodies are evenly split:
First draw (scrubs):
Bennet, Bullock, de Blasio, Delaney, Hickenlooper, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Inslee, Ryan, Williamson
Second draw:
Booker, Buttigieg, Castro, Klobuchar, O’Rourke, Yang
Final draw:
Biden, Harris, Sanders, Warren
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:20 pmAnother signpost on AOC’s rise to the Speaker’s chair. It took Newt 16 years to get there, but AOC knows we don’t have that much time if she is to rescue us.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:22 pmMike Gravel was hoping to qualify for the debate (or two teenagers were sort of like trying to draft him – not to be president to be in a debate)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/magazine/mike-gravel-teens-twitter-presidential-campaign.html
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:24 pmThere were 21 candidates who passed either the fundraising or polling threshold, but the tie-breaker favors polling.
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:31 pmBy the way, in another thread I suggested that Christopher Cox was going to run again for his old CA-48 seat. My information was incomplete. Another Chris Cox is running for another seat.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:36 pmMay I post (i.e., steal) your comment 29, Dave?
DRJ (15874d) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:47 pmOf course. Thanks for asking, but it’s unnecessary!
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:52 pmHeh. I confess I was surprised when you said he was going back into politics.
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:53 pmThey let major party candidates in with 1% support in ANY poll, yet when it comes time for independent candidates 10% is often not enough. Maybe the Greens should sue to take part. They might be saner this time.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 7/17/2019 @ 5:04 pm@22. Rescuing Haley from a crashing Boeing and bringing her aboard quashes the chatter of sexism and racism. The ‘unofficial’ excuse to be leaked by Tammy Fay Conway: ‘Race’ wrote that secret op-ed; officially, Pence craves more time with his family.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/17/2019 @ 6:02 pmI thought Amash was in favor of impeachment.
rcocean (1a839e) — 7/17/2019 @ 6:25 pmAmash is in favor of impeachment for actual crimes and abuses of office. Displays of nativist bigotry are not crimes and abuses of office.
Kishnevi (64dd45) — 7/17/2019 @ 6:30 pmI don’t think Amash is smart enough to know the difference. But I do know he is principled… whatever that means these days.
steveg (354706) — 7/17/2019 @ 8:48 pmKinda like racism and nativist bigotry. I get your definition even if I might disagree about the details, but do not agre with the nutroots version.
Telling someone to go back to the place we gave them or recent ancestors refuge from and to go fix that and then come back and show us how it is done is a challenge… one that they cannot meet by the way. That isn’t nativist, or bigotry. It is a challenge. Can you put your money where your mouth is. Or get the log out of your own eye… to get biblical
Headline: A Third of Dems Believe That Any White Politician Who Criticizes a Politician of Color is Racist
Huh. That is chump change. 100% of nevertrumpers believe that
steveg (354706) — 7/17/2019 @ 8:52 pmNeverTrumper Vanilla Cruise tickets on sale at Bulwort.com
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/17/2019 @ 9:13 pmWhy should they move overseas to work in a place they’ve never lived, instead of trying to better the place they were born, where they do live?
It’s ludicrous.
The importation of slaves ended in (IIRC) 1808. That means Pressley’s family has lived here for at least 100 years longer than Trump’s (and probably much more).
Dave (1bb933) — 7/17/2019 @ 9:16 pm30. Kevin M (21ca15) — 7/17/2019 @ 4:22 pm
Others say she wants to get into the United States Senate (perhaps by running in the orimary against Senator Charles Schumer in 2022 – very very unlikely, unless her district is eliminated in redistricting, in which case she might make such adesoerado move) or run for mayor of New York.
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 7/18/2019 @ 7:48 amSo why would Amash vote for tabling Impeachment if he is FOR Impeachment. You need to get the process started and it doesn’t matter WHY you start the process. You can always add your concerns to the bill of impeachment.
rcocean (1a839e) — 7/18/2019 @ 7:56 amI think it does matter what are the grounds for impeachment, and that most people would agree. There miight be political circumstances in which someone would just want to get the oprocess started but that’s not the ideal.
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 7/18/2019 @ 8:02 amAmash didn’t want to go off half-cocked. Like Trump. And fall flat on his face for lack of preparation and lack of foresight. Like Trump.
Let’s take just a few examples. Okay, the Muslim ban was uphill. And he doesn’t really want to repeal DACA. And the Wall was going to be a big fight. But a census question? How much of a low IQ stone loser do you have to be to blow that?
nk (dbc370) — 7/18/2019 @ 8:11 am