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Trump at the G20

Filed under: International — DRJ @ 7:48 am

[Headlines from DRJ]

WSJTrump, With a Smile, Tells Putin ‘Don’t Meddle in the Election’:

Two leaders also planned to discuss trade and ‘some disarmament’

OSAKA, Japan—President Trump called on Russian President Vladimir Putin to stay out of the 2020 presidential election, but the tone of his comment Friday was open to interpretation.

The Wall Street Journal article is behind a paywall but this Guardian link has the same story about Trump joking about election meddling, plus something about Fake News and getting rid of journalists (“… 26 journalists have been murdered since Putin first became president, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), many of them investigative reporters scrutinising governmental abuses”). The usual.

As a bonus, here is a related PBS News Hour story — Putin invites Trump to visit Russia next year:

OSAKA, Japan — The Kremlin says President Vladimir Putin has invited President Donald Trump to visit Russia next year.

Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Friday that the Russian leader wants Trump to attend festivities marking the 75th anniversary of the World War II victory.

Peskov says Trump reacted “positively” to the invitation at the two leaders’ meeting on the sidelines of the Group of 20 nations’ summit in Osaka. Peskov says a formal invitation would be sent shortly.

All the world’s a stage to some.


29 Responses to “Trump at the G20”

  1. Or a three-ring circus with clown cars and clowns.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  2. Trump wants to celebrate victory in WWII with the Russians? That is a mistake, but one that Putin successfully baited him into.

    DRJ (15874d)

  3. Michael S. Schmidt
    Number of times these words were mentioned at the debate last night:

    Mueller 0
    Special Counsel 0
    Impeach/Impeachment 0
    Obstruction of Justice 0

    harkin (0db537)

  4. Who sent the javelin missiles to Ukraine? Who demolished Putin’s crack merc outfit, cam we try not to indulge in narrative over truth.

    Narciso (30eb7e)

  5. By all means, gentlemen, change the topic. No one is fooled.

    DRJ (15874d)

  6. Patton is spinning like a tornado in his grave.

    mg (8cbc69)

  7. I guess he could have smoothly and brilliantly said “cut it out,” and Foreign Policy would say all was done well, right?

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (6b1442)

  8. Who actually challenged Putin and who just talked about it?

    Narciso (30eb7e)

  9. “has the same story about Trump joking about election meddling”

    Yeah, what next? Is this reprobate Trump going to start joking about rape, when we know he did it?

    Munroe (485cba)

  10. Yes, I know. I’m supposed to hate Putin and Russia because blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile the CHiCom’s are fine folks and we need to cave to their demands. Otherwise, it’s a TRADE WAR 111!!!

    rcocean (1a839e)

  11. The phrase “Trade war” is wonderful political rhetoric. Lets just keep the status quo or cave to the Chicoms, because who wants a “War”? Raise Tariffs and re-negotiate = WAR. Cave to China and keep the status quo = peace. Its moronic. But then most people can’t understand trade.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  12. “The 80’s called and they want their foreign policy back.” — Barack Obama

    Bored Lawyer (998177)

  13. I once had an interview from the Defense Dept about a colleague who was applying for a job buying
    “surplus” plutonium from Russia as part of arms control agreements. The interviewer was a pretty senior guy and I remember how good he was at his job. Disarming, friendly but pushing deep into the applicants background.

    It strikes me that Trump must be putty in the hands an old KGB chief like Putin. Reagan had no problem controlling the agenda with Gorbachev and others. He had a solid political philosophy to guide him. Once again I think Donald Trump is not smart enough to run a high level scheme, but thinks he is smart enough to deal with guys like Putin.

    dirtyjobsguy (96cdc8)

  14. As for journalists there are precious few like politskaya or borovik or any of those who spoke truth to power.

    Narciso (30eb7e)

  15. Trump seems to have an uncontrollable urge to unzip Putin’s fly anytime the two of them are in front of teevee cameras.

    Dave (1bb933)

  16. 2, you gotta admit there’s a certain chutzpah to announcing that 75th Anno celebration in Japan.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  17. 13.

    For sure! Trump is such a putty-like President! Absolutely passive. Why I remember how he went along with the Right People during the primaries, and avoided difficult positions that might invite criticism.

    And again you’re right–I remember how Trump succumbed to the ferocious media barrage favoring the Paris Agreement, opposing protective tariffs, how he abandoned Kavanaugh in the face of a media onslaught, and even now supports allowing the borders to be overrun–as urged by all the Right People.

    And it strikes you from all this that he is ….just putty. I see. Say, how is it going on the 2020 issue of “Against Trump”?

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (6b1442)

  18. 2. DRJ (15874d) — 6/28/2019 @ 8:05 am

    Trump wants to celebrate victory in WWII with the Russians? That is a mistake, but one that Putin successfully baited him into.

    Trump likes military parades and victory parades.

    He saw one on Bastille Day in France in 2017 and wanted to do one in the United States. He finally settled on a parade on the 100th anniversay of he end of World War I, to take place on November 11, 2018, but that was cancelled because it got to be too expensive, so he went to France for that.

    Sammy Finkelman (4eddd7)

  19. 13-
    Jeb is hiring toilet custodians.

    mg (8cbc69)

  20. if needs must

    one should read Schweitzer’s work, re Reagans policy, or jay winik, not the same people who have gotten things wrong for 30-35 years,

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. South Americans being South American (even the Lusophones getting it in):

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  22. 8:

    Who actually challenged Putin … ?

    Gary Kasparov and these people (most of them are dead).

    DRJ (15874d)

  23. #13

    Your message assumes Trump is a patsy. He isn’t. He believes the US should be governed like Russia (or like Hungary). He uses the language of dictators and many of the tactics of dictators. Fortunately, he really does not have the power to do something, like have Acosta arrested or killed by rogue CIA elements. But he wants that power, and admires the people who have it.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  24. The super-elitest of the super-elite, the two most powerful men in the world, exchanging japes. Mind your places, Little People!

    nk (dbc370)

  25. If it’s raining in Moscow, maybe he won’t go.

    Then he can stop by Berlin and do a jig by the Brandenburg Gate.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. ‘Course respect is due for the more than 20 million Russians killed in WW2. The memorial to their dead battling Hitler outside the Kremlin is truly a solemn spot and as significant to the Russian people as Arlington and Normandy are to Americans.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. OK, so why shouldn’t America and Russia (and Britain, but not France) celebrate WWII victory over Nazi Germany together? If any one country’s efforts could be called most crucial in that conflict, it would be Russia’s. On the other hand, America should celebrate V-J Day alone, or possibly with the Australians.

    Gary Hoffman (7ec1de)

  28. Russians are still taught that
    1. They defeated Hitler all by themselves;
    2. That the United States stayed out of the war for as long as possible to let Hitler inflict as much damage on Russia as possible; and
    3. That Lend-Lease was a fraud intended only to make money for American war profiteers, sabotage the Russian war effort by providing shoddy weapons and equipment, and lull Russia into neglecting its own manufacturing capacity.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. Well If we want expertise, maybe some policy maker with an opinion:

    Narciso (30eb7e)

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