DEVELOPING: Mueller Delivers Report to DOJ; Breathless Nation, uh, Watches Basketball [UPDATED]
[guest post by JVW]
Attorney General Barr now has the report from Special Counsel Mueller. Let the grandstanding begin.
This can be an open thread. Feel free to post developments as they emerge.
UPDATE: Fox News reports that Mueller does not recommend any new indictments. That tidbit has been added to the original link in the post.
– JVW
Oh Lord, here comes all of the Democrat Presidential candidates with their two cents.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:27 pmMueller pinches; ‘ouch’ cries Lincoln; big sale on copier paper at Office Depot!!!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:32 pmDoes it even matter at this point? I’m of the mind that he is personally not disciplined enough to pull off being anyone’s agent, not even his own.
He was manipulated, absolutely, but that isn’t an actual crime, he’s got plenty of those in the past, they’re just of the garden variety real estate scams. If we were lucky, he’d get primaried, but that’s not happening, so get on with it.
Now, policy arguments, please. Oh, and tell Beto to shut up, anyone but his sanctimonious butt.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:34 pm3. You don’t have an antecedent there, but it looks like you mean it wss Trump who was manipulated./
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:38 pmI’m of the mind that he is personally not disciplined enough to pull off being anyone’s agent, not even his own.
A very salient point.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:40 pmHe can’t even stop sniping at dead guys.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:41 pmOn WOR AM 710 this morning Mark Simone thought he would do it today (the”ve been surmising it’s getting close because most of his prosecutors have left, and there didn’t seem to be any new indictments coming ) because Mueller is close to Comey and Comey (and others) would do these news dumps on Fridays.
This was in order that it should be covered on;y by the Saturday newspapers, 2which are read the least.
This consideration no longer applies in the era of the Internet, but old habits die hard.
Kimberley A. Strassel, columnist in the Wall Street Journal, wrote today that the FBI was getting numerous copies of the Steele dossier (when? Apparently late 2016) and she evidently thinks it was part of an effort by Glenn Simpson to pressure the FBI into starting an investigation of Trump.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-fbis-counsel-told-congress-11553209575
But Domald Trump somehow got the idea the FBI had it only because of John McCain. He was listening to the brodadcast commentators, who should have known better.
The story always was that when McCain gave Comey the Steele dossier, Comey already had it.
Trump was manipualted by more than just teh Russian government.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:42 pmYes, I’m fine with Mueller, he’s an experienced mainline conservative. I never thought that any of the Trump drivel was actually true.
But of course Trump’s been/being manipulated, that’s part of intelligence and diplomacy. You want him on your side, and you figure out how to massage his ego to get it. Parent’s do it to kids, kids do it to parents, and just tell Trump about how great and historic his election was, and what big hands he has, and he’s your man.
Normally there are barriers to how successful that can be, but other than that wall thing, Trump doesn’t like barriers, so he ignores the diplomats and IC; see North Korea, Russia, Saudi’s…Canada.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:43 pm@6. That’s a strategy; a diversion. It’s clever; and it works.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:43 pmTrump was sniping at McCain because he though the was about to be vindicted and because he thought McCAin had instigated the investigation.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:43 pmJVW, #6: look at this site, as well. There are some folks who just can’t help attacking dead people. Over and over again. It works when your goal is to stir up many different factions.
Simon Jester (5721e2) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:44 pmThis was in order that it should be covered on;y by the Saturday newspapers, 2which are read the least.
Also, Sammy, it means that there can’t really be extensive coverage in the Sunday papers either, since much of that content (except for the Saturday news coverage) is already in the can. I know that so many people get their news from sources other than the newspapers these days, but tradition still dictates that Sunday newspaper coverage is pretty important.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 2:48 pm“Trump was sniping at McCain because he though the was about to be vindicted and because he thought McCAin had instigated the investigation”
vindicted: verb; past tense: vindicted;
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:02 pmclear (someone) of blame or suspicion only to seek prosecution for that which one was accused of
Example: “teh President was vindicted by the media lapdogs”
pullin for the wofford terriers and/or north dakota state, need some cinderella magic up in here.
JRH (8f59ea) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:12 pm“Sent over after 5:00 p.m. On a Friday. On the Friday of what is pretty much the biggest sports weekend of the year. After 5:00 p.m. on a Friday during a time when it’s a running joke about how nothing will get done because everyone is watching basketball.
Oh yeah this is going to be a huge blockbuster and prove treason by Trump.
Yup yup yup yup.”
—- alex the chick
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:22 pmSuspect this is why 1%Joe’s been ‘Biden’ time… waitin’ to see the weight of this report. If/when Trump beats any rap, 1%Joe is 100% toast.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:22 pmUPDATE: Fox News reports that Mueller does not recommend any new indictments. That tidbit has been added to the original link in the post.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:28 pmIf/when Trump beats any rap, 1%Joe is 100% toast.
That’s interesting. What is your thinking that leads you to this conclusion?
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:30 pmThe next BIG thing will be what isn’t covered in Herr Mueller’s report…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:32 pm*YAWN*
Gryph (08c844) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:41 pmthe season finale of the black list will be more interesting, next week it’s a flashback with Stacey keach as Robert vesco, who technically died in 2007
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:41 pmhow long till the left blames the jooooos?
mg (8cbc69) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:44 pmMy position on this remains what it’s been all along: it’s possible that a foreign government colluded with a presidential campaign to influence an election, it’s possible that a us government concocted a scam to interfere with the effectiveness of its successor government, and it’s possible neither of these happened — and it would be irresponsible for me to conclude any of the above until the evidence is in.
The evidence is in, but it’s not public, so it’s still irresponsible to reach a conclusion.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:46 pmIt was hand deliverd to DOJ at aproximately 4:11 Pm – this is all under extremely ttight security – maybe why Mueller hasn’t leaked, although things could be deduced, and to Congress at 5.
A summary can be expected to be made public by Monday, and maybe before. It has probably already been written and was written, reporters say, to avoid any questions of national security or executive privilege., and that’s why it would be ready to go.
The summary may not be any more than a list of persons indicted, and what the indictments alleged, and and maybe people investigated, but more likely I would think people who were
witnessess.
Congressional committees can be expected to try to obtain and release anything that Mueller wrote.
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:46 pmWhich isn’t to say I won’t be spending the entire weekend breathlessly waiting for leaks.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:48 pm12. You can put a lot in the main news section. There just won’t be any feature articles – but there’s no news anyway, other than that Mueller has finished his work, and that there won’t be any big surprises.
On Monday, or possibly Sunday, we’ll find out something, but we can guess what’s in it.
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:50 pmThe whole thing, modulo necessary national security redactions, should be released as soon as possible. There isn’t a force in the world that can keep congressmen on different sides of the Trump issue from selectively leaking parts favorable to them, and those selective leaks will create a massively misleading impression and undermine public trust — the best course is to release the whole thing in one go and let the public decide rather than listening to the leakers.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:52 pmThe evidence is in, but it’s not public, so it’s still irresponsible to reach a conclusion.
I heard a brief discussion regarding this on one of the news channels (but I swear, I was mostly watching basketball). There’s a real conundrum here. On the one hand, when there is an investigation that does not lead to indictments, generally the report is kept private for understandable reasons. However, given that this pertains to public figures, how do we respect privacy yet still maintain public trust? I think this is going to be a really nasty debate going forward.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:53 pmThere isn’t a force in the world that can keep congressmen on different sides of the Trump issue from selectively leaking parts favorable to them. . . .
Good point. But yet another reason why competent and normal people might shy away from what we like to call “public service.”
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:54 pm29. “Public service…” Where government bureaucrats put the “moron” into “oxymoron…”
Gryph (08c844) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:55 pmfinal season of supernatural, well they’ve been through two apocalypses,
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:56 pm31. Ugh. My wife likes that show.
Gryph (08c844) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:57 pmwell after the second one, where else do they have to go,
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:58 pmthe urtext to this scandal,
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:00 pmworst Chinese agent evarr:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-21/trump-aides-said-to-back-selling-f-16-fighter-planes-to-taiwan
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:10 pm“The evidence is in, but it’s not public, so it’s still irresponsible to reach a conclusion.”
Yes, it is, but the real question is will Hillary Clinton continue to escape justice?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:25 pm@18. His procrastination.
Ol’Joe’s been choking at the chain over the decades to run for POTUS and now suddenly months of indecisiveness. [Personally, don’t believe he’s emotionally stable enough for the gig.] Being a tease isn’t cute at his age; it looks feeble. He’s either waiting to see which way the wind will blow w/this or genuinely dithers. Not a confidence builder at his age. He’s the Dem’s Dole.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:28 pmPer the long-standing rules of the DOJ, the sitting president can’t be indicted.
1) Trump won’t be indicted
2) Trump was never in any legal jeopardy
3) Great legal minds like Dershowitz and several former federal prosecutors had it wrong, almost from the get-go.
In a more perfect world, there would be a reckoning for the irresponsible media, irresponsible former federal law enforcement personnel and intelligence directors, irresponsible politicians, etc.
Well over two years of this ninnie/mook nonsense. Make the entire thing public!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:36 pmAnd then name another Special Counsel to investigate the activities of the previous administration, the fed bureaucracy, all of those involved in the surveillance, the funding of the Dossier, and those who went out of their way to destroy the lives of a good many people.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:41 pmHere’s a large leak… abandon ship!!! https://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:44 pmLOL… good stuff!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 4:45 pm…he’s gonna beat the rap; he’ll crow it the TeeVee and tweet to the max, spin it, win it and sail to Term Two.
What. A. Show.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:00 pm^on the TeeVee
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:01 pmFrom noodle head ned Ben rhodes coffee boy
https://mobile.twitter.com/nedprice/status/1109237835717111808?p=v
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:09 pmWhat about that:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/22/head-ira-gives-permission-member-name-four-responsible-birmingham/
narciso (d1f714) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:16 pmIf the report shows no wrongdoing by Trump and his Administration (other than the non-campaign-related crimes committed by Manafort et al), does this mean Mueller is a neutral and fair investigator after all?
DRJ (15874d) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:27 pmCNN
@CNN
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff says his panel is willing to subpoena special counsel Robert Mueller to obtain a clearer picture of the contents of his final report
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Mueller obviously another of Putin’s agents.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:35 pmFWIW I think the next focus will be the SDNY investigation that (I think) will involve Trump and his organization’s past and current financial dealings.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:36 pmAdam Schiff should be full of shame, not just full of schiff.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:53 pmIt sure would be nice if these lawyers would get a taste of their own medicine.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:55 pmWatching CNN and the collective disappointment mixed with demands for new investigations…..imagine that.
Watching Anderson Cooper struggle to just get the words ‘no indictments’ out of his mouth was a hoot. He almost swallowed his tongue.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 5:56 pmThey will go after Trump any which way, and this will be so destructive to the process that only people who hire hit men will run for office. Unsubstantiated allegations by Trump’s perjuring ex-lawyer (in all meanings of that phrase) are being used as “probable cause” to open up tax returns, corporate accounts and other private matters where EVERYONE KNOWS there is no chance in Hell that the warrants would stand up at trial, or even be issued if the political fix were not in.
But who cares, it’s the leaks that matter. If it hurts Trump it’s good because we must at all costs destroy this man before the gravy train is totally spoiled.
Calling this a witch hunt gives witch hunts a bad name. Am I the only one left that cares about the means we use to get to our ends?
Kevin M (21ca15) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:00 pmThe collusion, the conspiracy, is an open and widespread attempt to stage a coup by perverting the judicial branch of government aided and abetted by a virulent press. It’s no different than tanks in the street. Michael Corleone explained it: “I don’t need tough guys. I need more lawyers.”
Kevin M (21ca15) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:06 pmCan’t say I disagree… https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=gya6wuMCJoA
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:06 pmAs for Meuller’s investigation, well, it’s not like it was a total waste. MILLIONS of billable hours!
Kevin M (21ca15) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:08 pmActual video of Mueller team wrapping up today.
https://im3.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-3-c7cf8a02a25a.gif
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:10 pm53… one would
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:16 pmthinkhopepray that people who work in the legal profession would share the sense of outrage about the last two years that many of us laymen do. Although there are exceptions, I don’t get the sense that is the case.mr. mueller was never going to do anything except exonerate mr. trump the president because mr. mueller is a good man
nk (dbc370) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:22 pmall about the billable hours with these lawyers.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:22 pmimagine a job where winning and losing doesn’t matter.
mr. john edwards the lawyer took all his personal injury cases on a contingency basis and only got paid if he won
that’s why everybody loves him so much
nk (dbc370) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:24 pmbut not as much as watching scantily clad young men running around and bouncing a big ball
nk (dbc370) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:26 pmNot sure if this is real but it looks real:
https://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:31 pmWhoops – ignore my last. I got played.
Should have read past the cover.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:32 pmHad to use a lawyer in North Carolina a while back for my daughter, The man was All World and salt of the earth. sad people like him don’t work for the gubmint.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:41 pmThe Motley Crue biopic dropped on the ol Netflix today…that one goes into the When California Was California category for sure.
urbanleftbehind (cc3dfe) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:52 pmand the cable news guys has a collective sad… https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1109201503418490880
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:52 pmNO COLLUSION with russia nyet! I have been saying this here for a long time. media vermin need to be trashed over this.
lany (069e47) — 3/22/2019 @ 6:56 pm65. …when men were men and they all used more hairspray than their girlfriends! 😛
Gryph (08c844) — 3/22/2019 @ 7:00 pmVDH knocks it out of the park:
Autopsy of a Dead Coup
“…..About a dozen FBI and DOJ grandees have now resigned, retired, been fired, or reassigned for unethical and likely illegal behavior—and yet have not faced criminal indictments. The reputation of the FBI as venerable agency is all but wrecked. Its administrators variously have libeled the Trump voters, expressed hatred for Trump, talked of “insurance policies” in ending the Trump candidacy, and inserted informants into the Trump campaign.
The former Obama directors of the CIA and National Intelligence, with security clearances intact, hit the television airways as paid “consultants” and almost daily accused the sitting president of Russian collusion and treason—without cross-examination or notice that both previously had lied under oath to Congress (and did so without subsequent legal exposure), and both were likely knee-deep in the dissemination of the Steele dossier among Obama administration officials.
John Brennan’s CIA likely helped to spread the Fusion GPS dossier among elected and administrative state officials. Some in the NSC in massive and unprecedented fashion requested the unmasking of surveilled names of Trump subordinates, and then illegally leaked them to the press.
The FISA courts, fairly or not, are now mostly discredited, given they either were willingly or naively hoodwinked by FBI and DOJ officials who submitted as chief evidence for surveillance on American citizens, an unverified dossier—without disclosure that the bought campaign hit-piece was paid for by Hillary Clinton, authored by a discredited has-been British agent, relied on murky purchased Russian sources, and used in circular fashion to seed news accounts of supposed Trump misbehavior……”
https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/17/autopsy-of-a-dead-coup/
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 7:14 pmCompletely off topic, but by the next cantata post I won’t remember where I saw it, so I will post it now.
Kishnevi (98c9fd) — 3/22/2019 @ 7:25 pmhttps://slate.com/technology/2019/03/google-doodle-bach-ai-music-generator.amp
Yes they’ve got us now,
Narciso (478585) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:24 pmhttps://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election?fbclid=IwAR2EumouXYHci_Sd1MKlEdgH8rHh9xOUCa1IFex00lAGkcnbccs0wIfOJ2U
The OG Hillbilly
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:34 pm@LauraLMonroe33
The Deep State and the media better have criminal and financial repercussions for this insanity. This is a major tipping point in this country.
6:14 PM · Mar 22, 2019
Julie Kelly
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:38 pm@julie_kelly2
Whooo boy the NeverTrumpers have their Mueller report spin and it’s unconvincing. But don’t worry, some of us remember everything you NeverTrumpers said about collusion. And if you’ve somehow forgotten, we’ll be pleased to remind you once the report is out.
3:59 PM · Mar 22, 2019
Okay. My turn. Something like that, Haiku?
nk (dbc370) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:39 pmAhoy, sailor!!!
Bill Kristol
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:40 pm@BillKristol
But at his back Trump always hears
Bob Mueller’s chariot as it nears;
And wonders if his future features
A report of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Yes, nk. Just. Like. That.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:42 pmIt’s a Vlad hand that beats three kings w/a pair of deuces.
Repeatedly.
And Putin smiled…
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:49 pmhttps://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Adam_Schiff_Bug-eyed_Trump_Derangement_Syndrome_Crazy.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:51 pm“The President”, Season 2, Episode 1: Revenge Of The Covfefe.
nk (dbc370) — 3/22/2019 @ 8:51 pmHaiku…..
I’ve been waiting to read the lyrics for your cover of Carly Simon’s Anticipointment.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 9:12 pmLol… I will give that a shot, harkin
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 9:14 pmAnticipointment
We may never know what to make of this
But we’ll think about it anyway
And we’ll wonder if the time is now at hand
Or we’ll face it on some future day
Anticipointment, anticipointment
Is fuelin’ their tears
They’re a pain in our rears
In high places, they hatched a plan to foil the voters’ will
Something evil, hard to grasp how bad this really was
And today, they had to swallow a bitter pill
But smaller than Andy Cooper normally does
Anticipointment, anticipointment
Is fuelin’ their tears
They’re a pain in our rears
And tomorrow we might not be together
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 10:06 pmI’m no prophet but I’ve slept in a Holiday Inn
So I’ll try to find some common ground
But it stops right here ’cause it’s a fight we must win
But it stops right now ‘cause it’s a fight we must win
(it’s a fight we must win)
(it’s a fight we must win)
(it’s a fight we must win)
(it’s a fight we must win)
Not really interested in Mueller since it’s been a sham from the beginning, but can any of our legal minds explain how this isn’t judicial tyranny?
https://www.breitbart.com/news/judge-blocks-laws-passed-by-wisconsin-republicans-in-lame-duck-session/#
A judge decides that laws passed in a lame duck session aren’t valid and also invalidates all appointments made by the legal Governor at the time. Are we ruled by a black-robed oligarchy and just pretend to be a Republic?
NJRob (4d595c) — 3/22/2019 @ 10:14 pm82 – lol bravo!
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 10:32 pmCarl Paulus
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 10:41 pm@CarlPaulus
So basically much of twitter is still coming to grips with the idea that the American people chose Donald Trump to be president rather than Hillary Clinton, and that choice was made on purpose.
Ha! https://twitter.com/User_Name_Null/status/1109262036494704640
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/22/2019 @ 11:12 pmWatched a little bit of Maddow tonight and she also seemed close to tears…but still kept it together enough to ignore everything she’s been saying before today while spinning new-improved conspiracy theories.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/22/2019 @ 11:19 pmGuess I wasn’t the only one who thought so…..
https://mobile.twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1109300503593340930
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:19 am87 disagree madcow was crying as she tried to bulldyke her way thru.
lany (069e47) — 3/23/2019 @ 1:49 amApplause, Col.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 2:28 amI see where Rachel was fishing for trout, sounds about right!
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 3:00 amCatherine Herridge will either be fired or shot by fox news.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 3:35 amSwalwell/Schiff/Death Row/2020
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 3:40 amAnd all the lawyer never trumpers were dead wrong, again.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 3:41 amNot all. I am a Lawyer Never Trumper (With Extra Covfefe) and I always thought the Russian collusion yammering was so much yak borscht.
nk (dbc370) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:06 amIt’s just, you know, that Trump gets crushes. You know. Stormy Daniels, Vladimir Putin, Rodrigo Duterte, Kim Kardashian, Kim Jong Un ….
nk (dbc370) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:10 amSorry, nk. never meant to throw you in with that ilk.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:27 amI t is a good thing Trump doesn’t have a crush on Alinsky, like the democrats.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:29 amnk- who would you prefer to investigate the Clinton, Russian, Deep State collusion?
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:37 amI think Trump’s new Attorney General should follow the exact same process that led to Mueller’s appointment. There will still be “Nixon!” and “Enemies List!”, but Trump will have the law and precedent on his side.
nk (dbc370) — 3/23/2019 @ 4:51 amCharles Cooper would be my suggestion.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 5:05 amCollusion is a catch word used as a distraction, because collusion is not a crime that anyone can be indicted or prosecuted for. Conspiracy and obstruction, however, are crimes. So are illegal campaign contributions, fraud, self-dealing, tax evasion, money laundering, and violating the emoluments clause.
All we may ever see is a summary brief of Mueller’s report by Barr, although the House did vote unanimously the actual, full report should be released and made public.
It could be that Mueller found evidence of conspiracy and/or obstruction, or various other high crimes and misdemeanors, and declined to prosecute because of DOJ policy. If so, that is a matter for Congress.
Various committee investigations have only just begun, and their scope is not limited. Investigations by US Attorneys in New York (Manhattan and Brooklyn), New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, and the District of Columbia are ongoing, and their scope is not limited either.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 3/23/2019 @ 5:10 amBernie can still be declared the winner of the 2016 election, too.
nk (dbc370) — 3/23/2019 @ 6:15 amOr it could be bupkis like he did with Stephen hatfill or what Sydney Powell found with Arthur andersen.
Narciso (ade828) — 3/23/2019 @ 6:33 amThey wanted Trump in a compromising position
So Special Counsel they appointed me
They thought they were cute when they screamed collusion
Well now I think they’re full of beans
I fight Covfefe, Covfefe always wins
nk (dbc370) — 3/23/2019 @ 7:38 amI fight Covfefe, Covfefe always wins
For almost two years now
My wheels’ve been spinning
I fight Covfefe, Covfefe always wins
wretchardthecat
@wretchardthecat
What was revealed was the extent of rottenness in the system. If Trump had been a godlike Alexander it would have been one thing. But he’s not. That they are actually less competent than a casino manager and reality show host is too much for them to take.
12:03 AM · Mar 23, 2019
@wretchardthecat
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 7:49 amYet it is nevertheless true. The real crisis of American governance isn’t that Trump is some evil genius. It is what a bunch of mediocrities the elite have turned out to be. Better to have found out now than in the middle of some existential conflict with a great power.
Give Peace a ChanceGive IT a RestTwo, one-two-three-four!
Ev’rybody’s talking ’bout
racism, sexism, Trumpism, mookism, gimpism, sadism
This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
Hit it
C’mon, ev’rybody’s talking about
Collusion, pollution, contusions, confusion, retribution
Black eyes and white guys and bye-bye, bye-byes
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
Let me tell you now
Ev’rybody’s talking ’bout
Indictment, excitement, internment, imprudent, insurgent
Divergent, detergent, appeasement, anointment, Amendment
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
Ev’rybody’s talking ’bout
Liz and Beto, Kamala Harris, Corey Booker, Slow Joe Biden, Hickenlooper
Jussie Smollet, Bernie Sanders, Rachel Madcow
All we are saying is give IT a rest
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 8:37 amAll we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
All we are saying is give IT a rest
cheers, Col.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 8:42 amAnd to you, mg. Happy Saturday!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 8:50 amWell we are defying competence too broadly their wild snipe hunt has gone on for three years since they opened this investigation.
Narciso (5136f2) — 3/23/2019 @ 8:52 amI’m still basking from the decisive Husky victory yesterday. Who knows, maybe we can sneak one past the Tar Heels tomorrow.
Paul Montagu (d49d0a) — 3/23/2019 @ 10:55 amGo Huskies.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 11:16 amGlenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
If you constantly went on TV or wrote things to mislead millions into believing Mueller was coming to arrest Trump, Jr., Jared and a whole slew of others for conspiring with the Russians, just admit it. Save yourselves the embarrassment of all this whitewashing & pretending.7:04 AM · Mar 23, 2019
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
At least CNN and MSNBC had the decency last night to have a funereal tone. There were no admissions of wrongdoing, and it seemed more pained and coerced than voluntary, but at least it was the first step in the coping process. Down that path lies some salvation at least.
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
I mean: they didn’t even get Carter Page! When I was urging a full investigation in lieu of media leaks & predicting the likely outcome back in March, 2017, even I thought they’d get one low-level person for Russia conspiring. No: they got zero.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 11:38 amGo Wofford!!!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:08 pmCarter page is the greatest villain since Mr. Neutron (obscure python reference)
Narciso (61d324) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:15 pmhttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gf7px
Narciso (61d324) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:21 pmcome on Terriers
mg (8cbc69) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:37 pmon this issue maddcow was crying because she wanted trump to be a knave not a fool.
lany (21fb68) — 3/23/2019 @ 12:44 pmRoger Simon at PJ Media:
https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/the-american-media-destroyed-themselves-over-mueller/
Skorcher (400c3f) — 3/23/2019 @ 2:00 pmWhen Donnie Comes Marching Home
There’ll be no frog-marching today, today
We’re sad! so sad!
There’ll be no spectacular price to pay
We’re sad! So sad!
Lib men will whine and our boys will pout
Our ladies we will all turn out
And we’ll all feel gay when Donnie comes marching home.
Schiff’s eyes will be buggin’ out even more
He lies! He lies!
Chuck Schumer continues to make us snore
He sucks! He sucks!
It takes a village the Clintons say
It must cuz they never pay their way,
And we’ll all feel gay when Donnie comes marching home.
Get ready for the Pelosi,
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 2:34 pmOh noes! Oh noes!
Don’t like her peaches, don’t shake her tree
Dat’s sick! So sick!
Her crooked broom is ready now
All sussed with jet engines to fly dat cow
And we’ll all feel gay when Donnie comes marching home.
Well I dunno about gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Skorcher (400c3f) — 3/23/2019 @ 5:16 pmBack on yore heads:
Narciso (b411db) — 3/23/2019 @ 5:57 pmhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/after-the-mueller-report-11553295976
Heather Anne Campbell
@heathercampbell
has anyone considered that part of an asymmetrical warfare campaign would be using fake leftist accounts to promote the idea that there is obvious Russian-backed collusion, so that when there’s no evidence of that collusion, the left falls apart and becomes angry/defeatist?
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It’s like they’re trying to parody themselves.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/23/2019 @ 5:58 pm•
121… that was supposed to be a lib’s lament… had to keep at least some of the original lyrics!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/23/2019 @ 6:04 pmA Viking cruise ship with 1300 on board sent a Mayday and is evacuating via helicopters in bad weather off Norway. Literally amazing to see. Here is video from a passenger. A tweet says the ship is moving again but it may be a rumor.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/23/2019 @ 6:30 pmAnother video.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/23/2019 @ 6:37 pmThank goodness that piano is anchored. Didn’t a piano crush a guy in one of them Poseidon flicks?
Hoping everyone gets through this OK, feel real guilty laughing at some of those comments.
harkin (d67dd3) — 3/23/2019 @ 7:43 pmI’ve been on some cruise ships with absurdly rough seas, but never anything like that. Insane. Ships usually avoid hurricanes and similar storms. What happened?
NJRob (4d595c) — 3/24/2019 @ 8:07 am27. aphrael (e0cdc9) — 3/22/2019 @ 3:52 pm There isn’t a force in the world that can keep congressmen on different sides of the Trump issue from selectively leaking parts favorable to them, House Speaker Nany Pelosi has decided to protect herself from that, and from seeming to claim something anti-Trump that will, in the end, not be backed up, by declining to bbe included in any briefing of the “Gang of 8” (the top 8 memnebrs of Congres, defined as the two top Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and the House)
That way she will never be under any obligation not to dsay anything, and she can give any opinions without being accused of, or having people be under the impression, that that is in some part based on secret information. It’s lets her be more anti-Trump than the evidence justifies, and avoids having her NOT be anti-Trump.
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 3/24/2019 @ 9:32 am119. quoting Roger Simon at PJ Media:
And finally, there’s Michael Cohen, the fixer. He’s a pathetic character, but none of his multiple lies or glancing truths (there must be some) come within miles of Russia collusion. In fact, he’s the guy who didn’t go to Prague.
But they raided and seized all of his files, and discovered, besides problem with his personal (not Trump)business, that he and Donald Trump colluded with the National Enquirer, or started to.
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 3/24/2019 @ 3:26 pm“I’m seeing 2 big examples of how the media are reporting good news for Trump this weekend. It’s really embarrassing for them because the 2 stories are very big and very good for Trump and, in both, the same move is made to turn it into something negative and ominous… So watch for it. The rule is: When something good for Trump happens, find the nearest bad thing and make that the focus of the news report.”
— Ann Althouse
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2019/03/how-any-good-news-for-trump-will-be.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 3/24/2019 @ 3:27 pmWrong thread, sorry.
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Lacey Belding (757348) — 4/20/2019 @ 12:03 pm