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2/17/2019

Can A “Top Cop” Effectively Lead The Country If She Hollers ‘Hate Crime’ Before An Investigation Has Been Completed? (UPDATE ADDED)

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:32 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Here we go. I haven’t posted about this subject for obvious reasons. The main one being that the Jussie Smollett case is still being investigated and we don’t know for sure what happened. So while I’ve stayed on the sidelines keeping my mouth shut and not jumping to conclusions, the leading Democratic candidates didn’t realize that they too should show some restraint and patience and wait for an investigation before spouting off. Obviously the reason we wait is because investigations into high-voltage incidents like the alleged Smollett attack can reveal that what the situation appeared to be, was in fact something very different. No caution for this group though. Heck no. They happily jumped into the sordid mess with both feet in an effort to advance themselves like the grifters they are. As they self-righteously beat their chests in angry indignation at the horrible stench of assumed racist hate wafting through the air, they made their assumptions based on seemingly little more than an initial report of the incident. Certainly they reacted before there was even an opportunity for an investigation to take place. (Date of alleged incident: Jan. 29. Date of the three candidates’ tweets: Jan. 29.) But sadly, the assumptions they made were necessary if they were going to out-woke the competition. And yet, while grifters are gonna grift, when a candidate for the highest office in the land, who spent six years as “California’s top cop,” still cannot resist the urge to make hasty, premature accusations about an alleged hate crime, as well as effectively announcing that she *knew* what happened – even before any investigation – then the seriousness of that individual who hopes to become the next Commander in Chief should be in question. I’m looking at you, Kamala Harris. It’s almost as if investigations, facts, and evidence are pesky mundane issues to be swatted away because girl wants to become the president, and pushing one’s cause, no matter how premature or inaccurate, is the path to a needed win. As caution and prudence go out the window, a foolish mentality of “strike while the iron is hot or forever lose that woke opportunity” becomes the guiding light for the self-proclaimed “top cop”. Maybe it’s just me, but shouldn’t we expect more of a presidential candidate who has been a state’s chief law enforcement officer and top lawyer for six years in one of the nation’s most populous states?

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Anyway, the police want to interview Smollett again after two brothers who were interviewed by investigators claimed that they were paid [by Smollett] to take part in a staged attack.

P.S. No response from Kamala Harris or Kirsten Gillibrand on the changing tide of the story. Cory Booker, while not acknowledging his earlier rush to judgment, said today that he is now going to withhold from commenting further “until all the information actually comes out from on the record sources.”

Gosh, what a novel idea.

UPDATE: This is Kamala Harris responding to a reporter’s inquiry today about whether she had been too quick to condemn the “attack” before knowing all the facts:

“I think that once the investigation is concluded, then we should all comment, but I’m not going to comment until I know the outcome of that investigation.”

Uh, too late. You already did. Remember??? Unfortunately, the reporter did not hold her feet to the fire and point out that, of all people, the former San Francisco District Attorney and Attorney General should have known to use a prudent restraint before claiming that a “modern day lynching” had taken place prior to any investigation having been completed.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

134 Responses to “Can A “Top Cop” Effectively Lead The Country If She Hollers ‘Hate Crime’ Before An Investigation Has Been Completed? (UPDATE ADDED)”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (023079)

  2. I just posted about an 11 year old boy arrested in lakeland florida for not standing up for the pledge of allegiance because trump is president. I just found out the sub. teacher is a cuban trump supporter who told the black boy to move back to africa if he doesn’t like it here. when the boy answered I was brought here the boy was handcuffed and arrested by the police in front of his classmates and taken to jail.

    lany (1b1121)

  3. It’s best to wait at least 48 hours before starting the virtue signaling. You’d think people would understand that by now.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. There are indications, that Harris is very biased in favor of smolletts family, which I put at the tale end of the thread.

    Narciso (c1e842)

  5. With Ellen’s ratings, she won’t get cancelled but in the end, Spartacus was a loser who got crucified.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  6. Yes someone with the mind set of Bobby seale in high office, what could go wrong (there was a female panther, but the name escapes me now)

    Narciso (c1e842)

  7. Well, I wasn’t going to vote for any Democrat in 2020. But at this rate, a vote for Trump will be a vote for the more intelligent, more rational candidate…

    Kishnevi (86d06e)

  8. Sorry ot was erica Huggins, although I guess Angela Davis would first as well.

    Narciso (c1e842)

  9. Personally, I was crushed by the Chicago detectives’ findings. Chicago is not “MAGA country” after all?

    nk (dbc370)

  10. You know the Easter bunny isnt real, so the other 700 murders get what kind of attention.

    Narciso (c1e842)

  11. I think Jussie will hightail it to a rehab center by tomorrow morning and will be incommunicado for weeks.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  12. The case is going to a grand jury.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. And one hopes (if the hoax charge holds up) incommunicado for a couple of years courtesy of the Illinois Dept of Corrections.

    Kishnevi (86d06e)

  14. The Washington Post
    @washingtonpost
    Opinion: I doubted Jussie Smollett. It breaks my heart that I might be right.
    __ _

    Lori
    @N0N0N0N0N000
    It breaks your heart that there was no hate crime here? Weird
    __ _

    @PresidentShemp
    @presidentshemp
    So his lie is *more* painful than an actual, brutal bias attack?! That cannot possibly be.
    __ _

    Bridget Phetasy
    @BridgetPhetasy
    What the eff WaPo do you even realize what this headline *isn’t* saying?

    “It breaks my heart Trump supporters aren’t roaming the streets of Chicago lynching people because I’d rather be proven right than have to confront my glaring psychological blindspots.”
    __ _

    Jim Kastel
    @Jimmy_K45
    Replying to
    @washingtonpost
    This is why you have to advertise during the Super Bowl.

    __

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  15. the lieutenant governor of virginia’s a rapist and the governor of virginia goes by the nickname of coonman

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. Ryan Saavedra
    @RealSaavedra
    Andrew McCabe: “The Deputy Attorney General offered to wear a wire into the White House. He said, ‘I never get searched when I go into the White House, I could easily wear a recording device, they wouldn’t know it was there.’”

    “He was not joking. He was absolutely serious.

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  17. And don Cheadle wants Rhodey to stay dead, because hes dead to me,

    Narciso (c1e842)

  18. I think Jussie will hightail it to a rehab center by tomorrow morning and will be incommunicado for weeks.

    i think he has to work

    not sure but i think they have to wrap up the season still

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. There’s a commander-in-chief who hollers about all kinds of half-baked things before an investigation has been completed, and a constitutional majority already decided that they were okay with a person who does that kind of thing (remember when he said the election was rigged based on zero evidence?). Therefore, it does not disqualify Democrat candidates from doing the same. Just trying to apply a single standard here.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  20. From the link Dana provided with regards to Cory Booker:

    “We know in America that bigoted and biased attacks are on the rise in a serious way,” Booker said. “We actually even know in this country that since 9/11 a majority of the terrorist attacks on our soil have been right wing terrorist attacks, a majority of them white supremacist attacks.”

    He reiterated his point in response to another question, continuing to call for further action to combat bigotry and violence.

    “We have seen painful realities surge in our country, a rise in anti-Semitism, anti-Islamic attacks,” Booker said. “We’re seeing just a vicious, horrific, cruel violence that’s motivated by bias and hate. We need to do more to protect all Americans and make sure all neighborhoods and communities are safe.”

    I’m too lazy to look it up right now, but I don’t think Booker is anywhere near correct with respect to the idea that the “majority” of “terrorist” attacks are by white supremacists. For one thing, who is he counting as a white supremacist? Jared Loughner (Tucson shooter of Gabby Giffords) who was just a garden-variety nutcase? Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome, OCD, and depression? Nikolas Cruz (Stoneman Douglas High) who spent years under psychiatric observation and has a rather unlikely white supremacist name, even if he did apparently hate blacks, Jews, and Mexicans? I think like so much dealing with Cory Booker, he’s just making stuff up as he goes.

    And even if Booker didn’t mean to refer mass killings (though what else could he mean by “terrorists attacks”?), I think the statistics from a few years ago are still valid which indicate that black-on-white violence is, proportionate to the respective populations, eight times more prevalent than white-on-black violence. Is this the kind of bullstuff that Booker is going to be bringing for the next 15 months as he makes his Presidential run? What a tool.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  21. No it’s just more dreck fron splc and cair and all those other outfits who are tax exempt, the new American foundation is particularly egregious newcomers in this.

    Narciso (00a309)

  22. Booker has been fact-checked and his comments are half-true. In terms of lethality, more have been murdered on US soil since 9/11 at the hands of militant Islamists than right-wing extremists.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)


  23. Rod Dreher
    @roddreher
    You are not allowed to say on Facebook that Jussie Smollett carried out a hate hoax.

    __ _

    Someone posted a link to a story referencing CNN saying Smollett had made up the hate incident and Twitter blocked it as not conforming to community standards.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/roddreher/status/1097172300477140992

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  24. Deport them all.

    mg (8cbc69)

  25. “There’s a commander-in-chief who hollers about all kinds of half-baked things before an investigation has been completed,”
    Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:28 pm

    So glad we set a better example, unlike those here who condemned Nicholas Sandmann a “racist” before the facts were in.

    Munroe (e0f980)

  26. Thanks Paul Montagu. I checked the GAO report linked in the Fact Check, and as typical with government work it is largely skewed to obtain the desired political conclusion. For instance, they characterize the guy who shot to death six people at the Lockheed Martin plant in Mississippi in 2003 as a white supremacist, though authorities have disputed that race was a driving factor. I’m guessing that there are a whole bunch of other questionable conclusions that the GAO people have drawn in order to push the narrative that white supremacists are out there gunning everyone down.

    And they seem to take every peckerwood loser who kills someone (many times a sex offender) and label him a white supremacist, but they don’t pay any attention to minority gangs and the number of killings for which they are responsible. Many of the non-white gangs are supremacists gang too, whether it’s the Latin Kings, the Crips, the Mexican Mafia, etc, and their victims are quite often people outside their own race.

    So we’re back to where we started: Booker is a horse’s ass.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  27. Someone posted a link to a story referencing CNN saying Smollett had made up the hate incident and Twitter blocked it as not conforming to community standards.

    Slight correction, harkin: It appears that it’s Facebook (not Twitter) that censored the Smollett hate crimes story. I know, I know: six of one, half a dozen of the other.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  28. I see links related to that, maybe it’s a shadow ban.

    Narciso (00a309)

  29. “Many of the non-white gangs are supremacists gang too, whether it’s the Latin Kings, the Crips, the Mexican Mafia, etc, and their victims are quite often people outside their own race.”
    JVW (54fd0b) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:22 pm

    Except that the Latin Kings and Mexican Mafia were not considered non-white according to the DOJ under Obama, when compiling crime statistics. Hispanics were conveniently lumped in with whites.

    Munroe (b11042)

  30. Many of the non-white gangs are supremacists gang too, whether it’s the Latin Kings, the Crips, the Mexican Mafia, etc, and their victims are quite often people outside their own race.

    That’s true, but murders emanating from gang activity aren’t considered terrorism under the US Code. The fact that a majority of murders by terrorist attacks come from militant Islamists–even though less than a quarter of terrorist attacks have been executed by militant Islamists–is all the more reason DHS should focus more of their resources on jihadists instead of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, which really just further affirms that Booker is indeed a horse’s ass.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  31. No because that appendage has a purpose. Considering tbone is too ask Edwin starrs question.

    Narciso (00a309)

  32. I have a nearly perfect record on these. Remember the McCain worker who claimed a black Obama supporter attacked her? I called that on day one – 90% chance it was faked, I said. The anthrax guy was real, I said. So I’m right a lot – and not because I’m a genius, I just don’t let the politics get in the way. Most people can pattern-recognize.

    There’s no excuse for an experienced law enforcement to support such nonsense unless they are bad at evaluating evidence or don’t care. I’ve seen this on every level, including locally.

    Everything is probabilistic – Jussie Smollett could still end up innocent of everything and have been telling the truth. But that was unlikely at the start and vanishingly unlikely now. There are certain obvious tells in these situations. Someone should make a list…

    JRM (c80289)

  33. 27 – Facebook, not Twitter.

    You are correct. They both do it so often it’s hard to keep track of who’s pushing the lefty meme.

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  34. Which anthrax guy the one in Texas,

    Narciso (00a309)

  35. The lefty media types are quickly pivoting from the ‘this attack is a reflection of Trump’s America’ approach to one of: ‘Hey, don’t blame us, it was celebrities and entertainment reporters who got it wrong’.

    Mediate has countered with a nice collection of actual news reporters from most of the major sources jumping on the blame Trump/conservatives/white people smear wagon.

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/did-the-media-jump-the-gun-on-the-jussie-smollett-story/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  36. @15. And Bullwinkle was a chocolate mousse, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  37. Trump is an idiot for hiring Barr. That traitor on 60 minutes should have been arrested immediately. Barr is as deep state as you can get. I wish Americans had the balls we did during the revolutionary war.

    mg (8cbc69)

  38. Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:28 pm

    Free will is a single standard, Paul. Once you understand that, everything falls into place.

    felipe (023cc9)

  39. yes yes barr’s deep-state swamp-sucking bushfilth for sure

    but they don’t let you lead the gangsta-thug DOJ if you have integrity anymore

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  40. i never really had much of a relationship with bullwinkle or the squirrel

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. Natasha?

    mg (8cbc69)

  42. daddy dick-pic’s washington post likes to swirl the anti-semitism around on the tongue

    savoring the nuances

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  43. As Waller points out, Omar’s family was tied to the deposed warlord said barre who wrecked the country, the father of the technicald

    Narciso (a4c9e9)

  44. don’t forget though how Jussie and his hoax enabled closet case cory

    fhlake-turd tim scott

    and kamala bj harris to pass a bill making lynching a federal hate crime

    and it very nearly became law

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. Razor
    @hale_razor
    1) Claim against Trump supporters
    2) Media frenzy vs GOP
    3) Every GOP must condemn!
    4) Punchable face comments
    5) Violence against Nazis is OK
    6) When will the hate end!!!
    7) Fact-gathering
    8) Revealed as hoax
    9) Forget 1) down memory hole
    10) Repeat

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  46. Why do you think they’re all so stridently “Believe the victim!!!1!”? Because nine out of ten of these victimization stories are lies. The truth is obvious and easily provable; it’s the lies that need to be beaten into people’s heads.

    nk (dbc370)

  47. Because nine out of ten of these victimization stories are lies.

    yup they really are

    i was clicking on things on the internet and i went to a website called facebook where it turns out jusse had set up a page and guess what i found

    Jussie Smollett

    May 25, 2018 · “Watch this! Tonight…I’m so honored to be Executive Producer along with the brilliant @therealgretchencarlson and the great @thenormanlear for this incredible project…

    AMERICA DIVIDED: Confederate Monuments w/ Jussie Smollett. I got to interview everyone from descendants of men and women who were lynched, to descendants of men and women who DID the lynching, to local leaders dedicated to taking these monuments and falsehoods down, to the head of the Sons of the Confederacy. This changed me forever. Hope y’all check it out tonight at 9/8c on @EPIX. Shout out to our amazing producer/Director @shoshanaguy ???? #AmericaDivided #TruthAndReconciliation

    CNN Jake Tapper fake news never once reported how Jussie did him a whole docu-show on lynching did they

    isn’t that curious

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  48. Free will is a single standard, Paul.

    Indeed, but that wasn’t the single standard I was talking about.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  49. Julio Rosas
    @Julio_Rosas11
    @brianstelter
    this morning: “There was a rush to judgment, I think it was mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and among Twitter people. I think it was a really careful reporting by news organizations. But it all gets lumped in together at the end of the day…”
    __ _

    Dave In The Middle
    @PragmaticMiddle
    Really careful reporting by the media except for the part where there absolutely wasn’t
    __ _

    Ser Macallan XVIII
    @nottaitz
    “Twitter people” such as every single Democratic political figure in power? Every presidential candidate? Those “Twitter people”?
    __ _

    Dan Alden ⭐⭐⭐
    @DanAlden73
    I guess Robin Roberts and outlets like CNN are not real media outlets in stelters mind. You know I actually agree with that statement
    __ _

    Enter Sandmann
    @LetItBurnUSA
    The only news organizations who were careful were the local Chicago press. They’ve done great work investigating this story. The national media was a disgrace as usual.
    __ _

    D B
    @db_psu1014
    Careful reporting by news organizations… I just spit out my damn coffee.
    __ _

    Roc
    @AmericanIcon86
    Replying to
    @brianstelter
    This guy has as much credibility as his hair

    __

    harkin (e15868)

  50. The only news organizations who were careful were the local Chicago press.

    They know their city. They knew how unlikely the story was. Even David Axelrod, Obama’s eminence gris, hardly a Trumper, who deserves the title “veteran newsman”, had this to say:

    The racist/homophobic attack @JussieSmollett alleged was horrific. But if this story turns out to be a hoax, orchestrated by Smollett to boost his career, he will have cynically betrayed supporters across the country and slandered a great city.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. Conversation
    Andy Ngo
    @MrAndyNgo
    Right after Donald Trump’s election, the SPLC really stoked panic. A pro-gay Episcopal church in Indiana was vandalized w/“Heil Trump,” a swastika, & an anti-gay slur. Turns out it was the gay organ player who did it. He was only charged w/a misdemeanor.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  52. 56 – nice

    Andy Ngo has a great twitter acct logging hate crime hoaxes, I encourage everyone to give it a look.

    harkin (e15868)

  53. Great commenrmtary at (of all places) The Daily Beast:

    “…..The unintended consequence has been to make the media look ridiculous as it keeps rushing to judgement and falling for hoax stories.

    If we are to beat back the charges of “fake news” and defend the institution of journalism, we must defend those other old-fashioned ideas and institutions like the presumption of innocence, due process, and, yes, maybe even trying to avoid political bias.

    It is telling that today’s highest-profile hoaxes—a measure that, of course, reflects what hoaxes are accepted at first and rewarded with media attention —are about appropriating someone else’s victim status, not stealing their valor. Never mind the glory of heroes, experts, or champions, the desire for sympathy—and the moral authority that comes from being victimized—has replaced the desire for admiration or respect for some act of heroism.

    I’m not sure what exactly that says about a society, but it can’t be good.”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/fakers-prefer-to-play-victims-now-and-the-press-and-politicians-buying-it-are-playing-into-trumps-hands

    harkin (e15868)

  54. Can Empire‘s filming permits be revoked and as an abject lesson, should any of the less-wrong lizards (as Narciso would put it), get into the mayorship?

    urbanleftbehind (60453f)

  55. A white friend was beaten severely by Latin Kings in Chicago. It was a hate crime, though not reported or adjudicated as such. They were looking for a white guy to beat up as some kind of initiation thing. He recuperated, he wrestled with bitterness and hate, and he forgave.

    JRH (fe281f)

  56. Can Empire‘s filming permits be revoked and as an abject lesson, should any of the less-wrong lizards (as Narciso would put it), get into the mayorship?

    No.

    You’re asking the wrong question, anyway. The correct question is: Will Kimberly M. Fox, the Cook County State’s Attorney, be more scared of the Chicago PD than she is of her suck-ass liberal constituency and not throw the case against Smollett?

    nk (dbc370)

  57. North side or south side kings (i ask because the mostly P. Rican north side kings beefed with whites as they encroached into the idyllic NW side and south side kings generally defer to whites and beef with blacks) and what era? Seems like something out of Stone Greasers.

    urbanleftbehind (60453f)

  58. @62. Interesting. Yep, North Side, I’m pretty sure so that makes sense. This was back in the early 90s.

    JRH (fe281f)

  59. The Albany Park Kings (Kimball and Sunnyside) were in a shooting feud with the Vietnamese gangs in those days. Lately, I’ve only heard about them holding up the Alderman (Ward Committeeman?) and his film crew while he was shooting a campaign ad about gang violence in the community. (For real.)

    nk (dbc370)

  60. Now I understand that Smollett was willing to sign a complaint against two suspects the police had, until he found out that they were the Nigerians he hired–he was willing to sign a complaint against two innocent people to further his agenda. That is truly evil, and he should be prosecuted and then banned from polite society.

    Rochf (877dba)

  61. nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:16 am

    I totally remember that.

    felipe (023cc9)

  62. Anyone remember many moons ago when traffic would be jammed up on whatever Chicago freeway ran near the projects (Cabrini Green?) and the gang members would go car to car robbing people? I don’t know if this was considered unusual or if it happened all the time.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  63. Waiting to see if teh FBI storms McCabe’s domicile in a pre-dawn raid for lying to them and the DOJ.

    Afterall… this is normally how it’s done…

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  64. and the gang members would go car to car robbing people

    they made it to where that’s against the law now

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. I think you would have people more in fear of live fire from the upper floors. On Michigan Ave and other downtown streets, you have yoots reaching into open windows and grabbing stuff when traffic is stopped. Cabrini green, as dangerous as it was, was a geographic blip compared to the south side Robert Taylor homes which ran along the Dan Ryan expressway for 3 plus miles (that may have been the thing you talking about, especially if there was diversion of traffic to the side streets) The Taylors at the peak of their infamy comprised the 2nd largest city in Illinois.

    urbanleftbehind (60453f)

  66. This situation made the national news – either in the 80s or 90s – and it was right on the expressway, traffic not moving, easy pickings.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  67. Geoffrey Ingersoll
    @GPIngersoll
    It’s been a really bad month for the woke media. First the Buzzfeed story falls to pieces. Days later, woke media [ed.note: and a few mook here] pounces on innocent kids while amplifying the words of an obvious huckster. Northam happens and the woke ones are left flat footed. Then the Smollett case implodes

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  68. Fascinating how young men become kids, racist intimidation becomes innocence, if that narrative serves the Trump grievance industry.

    But it’s really been a bad month for the Trump cause. Government shutdown, billions wasted, all so Pelosi can win a game of chicken. I can understand the urge to change the subject.

    Dustin (d6e596)

  69. my favorite part was when we he did the emergency and we got the wall

    my second favorite part was when gladys did the anthem and the cnn poofterboy was worried she was gonna get blackballed by the music industry

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  70. Now the story is developing that Smollett did it to bolster Kamala Harris’s presidential big and anti-lynching proposed law. The “attack” happened the day before her announcement. Kind of strange to set it up during a polar vortex. See Ace of Spades.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  71. @42. Say ‘moose and squirrel’ and Mr. McCabe would’ve investigated you, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. That anti-lynching law timing was just so surreal.

    On message boards after the ‘attack’, I saw breathless pouncing by libs immediately ready to label anyone who opposed the new anti-lynching bill as a MAGA-wearing racist. You almost have to wonder if any politicians were stupid enough to be involved in this criminal scam.

    Another thing that just came up was that Smollett allegedly scripted out that one of them needed to be sporting a red hat, which was bought at a local store – one can only surmise that he told them to SMIRK too.

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  73. Well it would have had a smidge more cred had they staged it this past week with the Auto Show in town (more actual MAGAns in town).

    urbanleftbehind (60453f)

  74. Harris Pelosi schiff next question.

    Narciso (e64f80)

  75. (CBS) –“Empire” actor Jussie Smollett, upset after a racist letter sent to the show’s studio didn’t get a “bigger reaction,” is suspected of paying two men to attack him a week later, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

    “When the letter didn’t get enough attention, he concocted the staged attack,” a source told CBS 2 Investigator Brad Edwards. Other sources corroborated that information.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/#

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  76. camel toe and spartacus both mentioned lynching in their first comments.

    mg (8cbc69)

  77. he is Spartacus!
    scratch and catcha vegan by
    teh Kamalatoe

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  78. If it ever came out toe and spartacus were coconspirators – would anyone know?

    mg (8cbc69)

  79. UPDATE: This is Kamala Harris responding to a reporter’s inquiry today about whether she had been too quick to condemn the “attack” before knowing all the facts:

    “I think that once the investigation is concluded, then we should all comment, but I’m not going to comment until I know the outcome of that investigation.”

    Uh, too late. You already did. Remember??? Unfortunately, the reporter did not hold her feet to the fire and point out that, of all people, the former San Francisco District Attorney and Attorney General should have known to use a prudent restraint before claiming that a “modern day lynching” had taken place prior to any investigation having been completed.

    (Video of Harris in the post update.)

    Dana (023079)

  80. I’m hoping this dominoes further into the abyss.

    mg (8cbc69)

  81. Col. Haiku and mg,

    Please use either Kamala Harris’s correct name or something other than what you’re using in #83 and #84.

    Dana (023079)

  82. they only call her that cause she’s so stupid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  83. BIG HAIR AND SKINNY JEANS,
    A short story by nk

    There were two of them. I spotted them the minute they followed me out of the store.

    I’d run low on cigarettes, so I’d driven to my local Jewel for a couple of packs. Marlboro Red. Hardpack.

    Since I was there, I thought I might as well buy a couple of bags of Hershey’s Nuggets. I got three Hershey bars, too. The large 4.4 oz ones. Plain milk chocolate. I’ll always wonder if that might not have had something to do with it all.

    They caught up to me just as I got to my Nissan Altima. Black guys in their twenties. Both wearing light colored skinny jeans and Canada Goose parkas. The one on the left also wore a blonde Dolly Parton wig and gold glitter eye shadow. The one on the right was Dottie West with a red wig and turquoise eye shadow.

    “You’re the MAGA Trumper from the candy aisle”, Blonde Wig said. He sprayed me with Zum Patchouli Mist from a small glass spray-bottle in his right hand.

    “This is ni**er fa**ot country!”, Red Wig yelled. He threw a pink feather boa around my neck.

    Then they both turned away, and half-trotted, half-tiptoed to a black on gold Mini Cooper parked next to the Altima. Blonde Wig got in on the drivers side. Red Wig in the shotgun seat.

    John, a Chicago PD patrolman from the 17th who moonlights as a security guard at the Jewel, ran up to me.

    “I saw everything”, he said. “You want to press charges?”

    I opened one of the Marlboro packs and shook out a couple of coffin nails. John took one and lighted both of us with his Zippo.

    “Forget it”, I said. “Who’d believe us?”

    We dragged on our smokes and watched Blonde Wig trying to back the Mini Cooper out of the parking spot.

    “You ever drive a stick?”, John asked me.

    “When I was a kid”, I said. “My boss at the gas station had an army surplus Jeep.”

    “They can be tricky”, he said.

    Blonde Wig would put the Mini Cooper in reverse and stall it. It was fascinating in a way. The engine would start, the backup lights would go on, and the engine would die. Then the backup lights would go off, the engine would would start, the backup lights would go back on, and the engine would die again.

    John lighted two more of my Marlboros for us. The smell of tobacco blended in with the smell of patchouli and burnt clutch lining.

    “I’ll throw that boa in the trash for you on my way back inside”, John said.

    “Thanks”, I said.

    THE END

    nk (dbc370)

  84. How about Kamillary?

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  85. Willie’s Wonker?

    nk (dbc370)

  86. Kamala Harris is a lying, self-serving, self-promoting hairbag.

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1097487633176035328

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  87. funny nk, that would get me tossed.

    mg (8cbc69)

  88. funny nk,
    Which one, mg?

    that would get me tossed.
    No way, mg. Everybody here likes you better than me.

    nk (dbc370)

  89. But do you own a cat, nk?

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  90. 95, nk.
    almost choked reading 99.
    Honestly nk, you and the Col. keep me here.

    mg (8cbc69)

  91. Speaking of bad jokes … https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-to-run-for-president-again-11550576499 (Caution: Opera counted 30 ads.)

    nk (dbc370)

  92. Is the cat a reference to Elliot Gould’s Phillip Marlowe, Haiku?

    nk (dbc370)

  93. In real life … https://pagesix.com/2019/02/19/jussie-smolletts-empire-scenes-cut-after-attack-controversy/

    Apparently his employers have already made their judgment.

    nk (dbc370)

  94. Ganja Kamala wants free weed for her family

    mg (8cbc69)

  95. we don’t know for sure what happened.

    You would be oin fairly safe ground to claim it is hoax, becaus ethe very concept of people targeting black people with niooses ios a hoax.

    And then we have the attackers shouting at him “This is MAGA country!” Can anyone believe that, not tehmselves, but that anyone else (in Chicago) could believe that Chicago is a pro-Trump place? Nationwide, maybe somebody could believe it took place in some precinct or neighborhood that voted for Trump.

    And then they didn’t really ahrm him, buit just place anoose around his neck.

    Also that the action took place off-camera. Rush Limbaugh thinks that was a (fortunate for us, because it was improbable) mistake on Jussie Smollett’s part (He thinks that he wanted video – that he wanted to be Rodney King II. But that Hussie Smolette didn’t notice taht the camersa wass pointed in the wriong direction.) But that, I think gets things completely wrong. he did notice that and picked the spot precisely because it was off camera.

    It had to take place off camera, because Jussie Smollett could not effectivelly fake being attacked. Jussie Smolett would not be able to make a second take. (unless he really, really planned it and tried it in different locations, with a cameraman)

    Now for other things it pays to be careful, Like Hussie Smolett hiring Clinton connected Lanny Davis as his lawyer. He probably did not hire Lanny Davis. I knew I had to check that out.

    https://www.thewrap.com/jussie-smollett-denies-hiring-defense-attorney

    That leak, I think, is another hoax – on the part of the perpetrators. They wanted people to jump at “proof” of political motivation. Oh, he probably did hire somebody connected with Clinton opolitics. Just not Lanny Davis.

    There was a lot of politics there. And it was probably arranged as part of the hoax. Kamala Harris didn’t even know what “she” has tweeted, and I believe that.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  96. Jussie, he be eviler than I thought. I initially opined that, as he would say, “it was a date gone bad” and he was too embarrassed to say so, but now it turns out that he also had a “racist letter” sent to himself, and it was when that didn’t get him the attention he wanted that he had the Nigerian brothers stage the fake attack. What this mean? The FBI are already investigating the letter. Jussie, he be looking at federal charges too.

    And, Kimberly Foxx, the Cook County State’s Attorney, has recused herself from the case and is letting her First Assistant prosecute it. Which I kind of guessed that it was too hot a potato for her to handle.

    nk (dbc370)

  97. http://www.newser.com/story/271586/jussie-smollett-case-takes-a-new-turn.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

    Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx on Tuesday recused herself from the investigation, and offered a one-sentence explanation via a rep: “Out of an abundance of caution, the decision to recuse herself was made to address potential questions of impartiality based upon familiarity with potential witnesses in the case.” The Chicago Tribune notes that no further information has been provided about the witnesses or Foxx’s relationship to them; the announcement came hours after the two brothers who were originally arrested in the case, Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, spoke with prosecutors and detectives at the courthouse.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  98. True Bill. Class 4 felony. One to three. The maximum was upheld on a appeal in a case I am familiar with where the police had arrested the falsely accused person.

    nk (dbc370)

  99. 104… yes, indeed it was, nk.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  100. Indicted. Technically, he is still only a “suspect” due to the presumption of innocence, not to mention the media who stepped on their willies now wanting to sneak away from the story quietly with noting as dramatic as the word “indicted” on a headline.

    nk (dbc370)

  101. Very Morton Downey, Jr., of him.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  102. No it was much more absurd than that,

    Narciso (cb7171)

  103. @115. Except it wasn’t.

    But as with a kick in the balls, it’s an attention-getter.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. The same Morton Downey, Jr. who passed away in 2001? I didn’t know he had sent a fake letter to himself and then paid two extras from his show to stage a fake hate crime against him.

    nk (dbc370)

  105. It was thicslose to implicating random innocents, that’s what makes it worse than Downey. I hope the blowback hits deep enough into the mayoral race so a more Vrdolyak-29 type of candidate prevails.

    urbanleftbehind (9b10d3)

  106. He scribbled swastikas and other anti jew verbiage onto his own face with a marker in an airport bathroom, claiming to have been accosted by skinheads. What did him in was using the mirror and drawing the swastikas backwards.

    urbanleftbehind (9b10d3)

  107. No he just grazed himself and portrayed himself as being a victim.

    Narciso (cb7171)

  108. Morton Downey, Jr.
    Robert Downey, Jr.

    Is it a tradition for people surnamed Downey to name their kids after themselves?

    nk (dbc370)

  109. The nut I remember was Wally George, Rebecca DeMornay’s daddy. Seems like he had a presence around the same timeframe.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  110. @117. He faked an attention getter. Another attention-getter is to sit between two doughnuts in a mini-dress and cross your legs slowly on Fox & Friends. It’s the sugar that perks up their cuppa “morning joe.”

    @119. He scribbled swastikas and other anti jew verbiage onto his own face with a marker in an airport bathroom, claiming to have been accosted by skinheads. What did him in was using the mirror and drawing the swastikas backwards.

    But lung cancer from the coffin nails put him in the crush-proof box.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  111. WWOR-TV inadvertently caused sociopolitical waves that would manifest fully 4 years later when it moved The Morton Downey Jr. Show from its 11:30p time slot to 12:30am to make room for a new talk show helped by Arsenio Hall.

    urbanleftbehind (9b10d3)

  112. Re Fox and Friends, does Brian Kilmeade draw his inspiration from Lindsay Graham or did Graham follow Kilmeades lead into Trump idolatry?

    urbanleftbehind (9b10d3)

  113. Has anybody seen the sequel to Basic Instinct?

    nk (dbc370)

  114. @124. Lived near there then for a time; the lines outside the Secaucus studio for tapings were loaded w/cashews and pecans. Another young flamer destined to crash and burn who worked at WWOR around that time… Matt Lauer.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  115. CORRECTION: Apparently no indictment yet.

    I shoulda known better. The New York Times. I shoulda known better. I shoulda known better. I shoulda known better.

    nk (dbc370)

  116. “UPDATE 8:53 p.m. EST: A Cook County grand jury returned an indictment against Jussie Smollett late Wednesday afternoon. The Empire star now faces a maximum of three years in prison if found guilty of the felony charges. According to Chicago Police Chief Communications Officer Anthony Guglielmi, authorities are working with Smollett’s attorneys to “negotiate a reasonable surrender for his arrest.” ”

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/jussie-smollett-now-officially-classified-as-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  117. Sullivan was based on such a weasel worded advertising in the times, I had forgotten.

    Narciso (cb7171)

  118. http://www.newser.com/story/271743/smolletts-tv-dad-responds-to-allegations.html

    Smollett also narrated a documentary series in May 2018 called America Divided that looks at hate crimes, particularly lynching, notes the Chicago Tribune. Series director Lucian Read says that if allegations against Smollett are true, “it’s remarkable” for him to “take this truth about hate crimes and turn it into fiction like that.”

    Maybe some of the cases in the documentary Smolett narrated were also fake.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  119. 118. urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:17 pm

    It was thicslose to implicating random innocents,…

    It wasn’t, but Smolett probably thought it was. he was going to file aformal complaint until he learned who the two men are.

    He has now given an explanation for the $3,500 payment. he claims it was atraining fee.

    And he didn’t overlook the need to explain the check payment of $3,500. The memo line reads:

    “5 week Nutrition/Workout program Don’t Go.”

    That “Don’t Go” might sound like it is an ungrammatical way of referring to some kind of a cancellation fee, but his people tell TMZ that “Don’t Go” is the name of a song for which he was going to shoot a music video.. And theer’s text showing a calendar where February 23 is marked “Don’t Go.”

    https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/24/jussie-smollett-training-texts-payment-check-abel-attack/

    Sources connected to Jussie say the $3,500 breakdown is as follows — $600 a week for the workout plan for 5 weeks, and $100 a week for the nutrition plan for 5 weeks.

    He’s still denying everything. But he’s not speaking to many people – like the rest of the cast of Empire. Probably becasue it would be too ifficult to plausibly lie to all them. Although lawyers will tell even innocent people not to discuss the case. Except if you’re Roger Stone.

    featuring himself shirtless

    that’s what makes it worse than Downey. I hope the blowback hits deep enough into the mayoral race so a more Vrdolyak-29 type of candidate prevails.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  120. featuring himself shirtless

    The attacker shows himself shirtless, to prove he lost weight.

    that’s what makes it worse than Downey. I hope the blowback hits deep enough into the mayoral race so a more Vrdolyak-29 type of candidate prevails

    the mayoral electionis tomorrow. No candidate is expecte to get above 20% – several will be around 15% – the top two go into arunoff.

    New York City has a free for all election for Public Advocate (an office which was stripped of most of ts power and renamed a quarter fo acentury ago when teh Board of Estimate was ruled unconstitutional. There are 16 (or 17?) candidates, and theer is no runoff. tehn tgheer’s an electionn for teh remaining 2 years of his term,

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)


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