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2/9/2019

AOC Adviser Lies About Green New Deal FAQ Sheet, Blames Republicans For Doctoring Document (UPDATE ADDED)

Filed under: General — Dana @ 12:08 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Well, this is dumb.

Two days ago I posted about the Green New Deal, and in the post I included excerpts transcribed from the Green New Deal FAQ via Alexendria Ocasio-Cortez’s website (and is still in the cloud), which is now a dead link. I also loaded a copy from NPR’s website, as did any number of bloggers writing about the launch.

With that, there is an interesting clip from Tucker Carlson’s show about the document. One of Carlson’s guests was Robert Hockett, a Cornell public policy and law professor and adviser to Ocasio-Cortez. In the exchange, Carlson asks Hockett about a specific guarantee made in the New Green Deal FAQ which states Building on FDR’s Second Bill of Rights by guaranteeing: Economic Security for all who are unable or unwilling to work. In the clip, Hockett claims that the FAQ released on Ocasio-Cortez’s website never said that. It did.

Here is the clip of Hockett making the false claim via a snarky tweet from Andrew Lawrence of Media Matters:

Carlson: How will we ever pay people who are, quote, unwilling to work?

Hockett: We never would, right? And AOC has never said anything like that, right? I think you’re referring to some sort of document – I think some sort of doctored document that somebody other than us has been circulating.

Carlson: Oh, I thought that came right from her – that was in the backgrounder from her office is my understanding.

Hockett: No, no. She’s actually tweeted it out to laugh at, if you look at her latest tweets. It seems apparently some Republicans have put it out there. I don’t know the details.

AOC also retweeted Andrew Lawrence’s tweet and clip of Carlson and Hockett on her official Twitter page:

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Except, the problem is Hockett is wrong. The original FAQ clearly made the claim of a guarantee of economic security for anyone unwilling to work. Jeryl Bier, who never seems to miss a beat, has a screenshot of the original document saved from AOC’s own website:

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And here is the archived version,

Moreover, here is a snapshot of it linked by NPR’s website, which clearly includes the debated guarantee:

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NPR clarifies that an updated FAQ was released by AOC’s office, and if you hit the link, the updated version also includes a guarantee of economic security to anyone…unwilling to work:

In addition, the framework, as described in the legislation as well as a blog post — containing an updated version of “FAQs” provided to NPR by Ocasio-Cortez’s office — calls for a variety of other lofty goals.

CNBC reported on the guarantee as well:

The Green New Deal that Democrats proposed Thursday looks to create a more environmentally sound country with economic benefits for everyone — even those who don’t want to work.

An overview circulated by proponents states the plan seeks a “massive transformation of our society” that could rid the country of fossil fuels and “create millions of family supporting-wage [sic] union jobs.”

But for those not interested in working, there’s something in the plan as well.

The overview notes that the Green New Deal aims to provide “economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work.”

Jonathan Chait wrote in NY Mag:

The operating principle behind the Green New Deal is a no-enemies-to-the-left spirit of fostering unity among every faction of the progressive movement. Thus, at the same time, the plan avoids taking stances that are absolutely vital to reduce carbon emissions, it embraces policies that have nothing to do with climate change whatsoever. The Green New Deal includes the following non-climate provisions:

–A job with family-sustaining wages, family and medical leave, vacations, and retirement security

–High-quality education, including higher education and trade schools

–High-quality health care

–Safe, affordable, adequate housing

–An economic environment free of monopolies

–Economic security to all who are unable or unwilling to work

And finally, from from the Heartland Institute, GREEN NEW DEAL: FACT SHEET AND FAQ FROM REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ AND SEN. EDWARD MARKEY:

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Via Jerry Dunleavy, here is AOC’s Chief of Staff explaining that “mistakes were made”:

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Dunleavy follows up by asking the correct question:

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Sure, mistakes happen, but Hockett literally claimed that AOC never said that anyone unwilling to work would be guaranteed economic security, and that the document in question had been doctored by Republicans. And that, according to AOC’s own Chief of Staff, is a lie. And yet AOC herself tweeted out the lie. It seems to me, if we can’t trust the people that AOC is being advised by, how can we trust AOC? AOC should apologize for disseminating false information, and Hockett should apologize for lying and making a false accusation about Republicans.

Q: Why didn’t Tucker Carlson have his ducks in a row so he could confront Hockett with his lie??

UPDATE: The Daily Caller reports that Robert Hockett acknowledged his error this afternoon:

“It appears there was more than one document being discussed yesterday, only one of which I had heard about with any definiteness by last evening after a long day of media appearances – namely, the one referred to by the Congresswoman in her tweet,” he wrote. “I regret that we seem unknowingly to have ended up speaking about different documents for a minute during our longer and otherwise ‘on-the-same-page’ conversation last night.”

I would like to see an apology specifically addressed to Republicans, since they are the ones falsely accused of doctoring a document and then intentionally disseminating it for less than honorable purposes. It’s not that Republicans necessarily need an apology, but because Republicans step in their own piles of crap enough on their own, it would be nice to have it on record that this was not of their making, as Hockett claimed. And it would be good for Hockett to make a public apology to Republicans, since he publicly named and blamed them.

Further, it’s unfortunate that Andrew Lawrence, Sr. Researcher at Media Matters still has his misleading tweet up on his Twitter page. But hey, Media Matters… He did, however, retweet this from Hockett:

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Also, this afternoon, after having re-tweeted Andrew Lawrence’s misleading tweet, AOC tweeted:

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(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

73 Responses to “AOC Adviser Lies About Green New Deal FAQ Sheet, Blames Republicans For Doctoring Document (UPDATE ADDED)”

  1. Lying amateurs.

    Dana (023079)

  2. I watched that exchange last night… it was very uncomfortable watching that guy and it’s true that he basically lied about the entire enchilada. Watching his body language, his twitching, tics all going full blast while he told lie after lie… I can’t recall ever seeing anything like it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. Tucker seemed overwhelmed by the entire experience. I imagine something like that would put you off your feed, let alone your game.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. it never stopped trump. 90% of democrats would vote for aoc for president if she was old enough. 2025 president ocasio-cortez! the young budding aoc’s are getting ready to primary establishment corporate democrats in 2020.

    lany (5d2c56)

  5. the young leftys are getting ready to primary nancy pelosi.

    lany (5d2c56)

  6. Tucker seemed overwhelmed by the entire experience. I imagine something like that would put you off your feed, let alone your game.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/9/2019 @ 12:23 pm

    I imagine that someone who is getting paid a boatload of money to interview politicians and their advisers, including those on the other side of the aisle, would have researched the subject to death. I spent this morning googling and reading all by myself and was able to discover the lie. Why didn’t Carlson and his staff, who likely do most of the work, do a better job to prepare the host of a national television program??

    Dana (023079)

  7. Allahpundit has an update that the policy was an “early draft“. Right, that’s it.

    Paul Montagu (e66a74)

  8. Don’t worry, Dana. All the critical attention will shortly be ascribed to sexism and racism, as usual.

    Simon Jester (548267)

  9. Moral Truth > Factual Truth

    Don’t get so hung up on the facts, Bro! Nothing to see here.

    Glenn (37a55d)

  10. Paul Montague, I also noted that there had been an earlier/updated draft and linked to it:

    PR clarifies that an updated FAQ was released by AOC’s office, and if you hit the link, the updated version also includes a guarantee of economic security to anyone…unwilling to work:
    In addition, the framework, as described in the legislation as well as a blog post — containing an updated version of “FAQs” provided to NPR by Ocasio-Cortez’s office — calls for a variety of other lofty goals.

    Dana (023079)

  11. (Links in post)

    Dana (023079)

  12. There are no ‘interesting clips’ on Tucker Carlson’s “show” – unless you enjoying the glare of a face expressing perpetual constipation.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  13. You’re supposed to take AOC seriously, but not literally.

    Or something like that.

    Dave (1bb933)

  14. There are no ‘interesting clips’ on Tucker Carlson’s “show” – unless you enjoying the glare of a face expressing perpetual constipation.

    But WTF is up with that other dude’s hair?

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. @13. LOL. Sorta like Project Horizon.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  16. @14. LOL. The Buster Poindexter look is back in style for Fox viewers.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. he first paragraph of his profile makes me all twitchy:

    https://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/faculty/bio_Robert_Hockett.cfm

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed.

    this is what they do

    they lie and lie and NPR licks licks licks it up

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. this is what they do

    troof.

    “When I said Mexico will pay for the wall in front of thousands and thousands of people, obviously they’re not going to write a check”
    January 10, 2019

    “It’s an easy decision for Mexico. Make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year.”
    March 31, 2016

    Dave (1bb933)

  20. “Seriously, not literally”

    Davethulhu (256a63)

  21. the wall pays for itself

    this is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. @18. ‘this is what that do.’

    There’s a trick to trickle-down economics, Mr. Feet.

    “Senator, there’s an old saying: don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.” – Fletcher [John Vernon] ‘The Outlaw Josey Wales’ 1976

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  23. @21. ‘the wall will pay for itself…’

    “Are you kidding?” – Theater cashier [Sally Kirkland] ‘Blazing Saddles’ 1974

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. Someone who does not understand the three branches of our government wants to totally transform buildings, energy, healthcare, wages, travel, etc.

    Kind of wondering when this ‘take your child to work’ thing is going to end.

    harkin (75c725)

  25. Cant wait for these nuts to attempt coming on my property and rebuilding my home and buildings.

    mg (827274)

  26. “But WTF is up with that other dude’s hair?”

    You can’t stop there. WTF is up with that other dude? Tics, squirming in his chair, etc…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. show’s tucker is over the target, that’s why media matters was running cover fire, why do they still have a tax exemption,

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. Update added:

    The Daily Caller reports that Robert Hockett acknowledged his error this afternoon:

    “It appears there was more than one document being discussed yesterday, only one of which I had heard about with any definiteness by last evening after a long day of media appearances – namely, the one referred to by the Congresswoman in her tweet,” he wrote. “I regret that we seem unknowingly to have ended up speaking about different documents for a minute during our longer and otherwise ‘on-the-same-page’ conversation last night.”

    I would like to see an apology specifically addressed to Republicans, since they are who he falsely accused of doctoring a document and then intentionally disseminating it for less than honorable reasons. It’s not that Republicans necessarily need an apology, but because Republicans step in their own piles of crap enough on their own, it would be nice to have it on record that this was not of their making, as Hockett claimed. And it would be good for Hockett to make a public apology to Republicans, since he publicly named and blamed them.

    Further, it’s unfortunate that Andrew Lawrence, Sr. Researcher at Media Matters still has his misleading tweet up on his Twitter page. But hey, Media Matters… He did, however, retweet this from Hockett:

    Dana (023079)

  29. “Mistakes were made” is not a retraction nor an apology. It’s a shrug and a “meh.” And it certainly isn’t accountability.

    tmm (3d89bc)

  30. aoc is more flatulance than a cow.

    mg (827274)

  31. has

    mg (827274)

  32. The guarantee of a living to everyone wasn’t the worst thing there. It was at least doable.

    Worse:
    * Running a modern economy on windmills and solar power. Large parts of the country would be uninhabitable in winter.

    * Getting rid of all internal combustion engines. Long-haul electric trucks? Electric taxis? Oh, and lithium batteries won’t charge when cold.

    * Returning to local farming and breaking up the corporate farms. Efficiencies of scale are apparently bad. Think Zimbabwe.

    * Getting rid of most air travel. Continental train travel. Not only would trains use more energy than jets, they are 1/3rd the speed and require destroying land (and the TGF through the Rockies would be a stunt). The energy involved in deploying the TGF system would never be recovered.

    * Mandatory vegetarianism, if not veganism. Cows, pigs, etc, all consume far more food than they produce. And they fart.

    * An implied human dieback. They just don’t come out and say it.

    And I haven’t even got to the economic ideas that work off of magic bean theory.

    Marx meets Malthus. Why have one always-wrong idea when you can have two?

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  33. Both work for me, mg.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  34. Cant wait for these nuts to attempt coming on my property and rebuilding my home and buildings.

    And billing you for the union wages and union-sourced material, while fining/jailing you for all the discovered infractions (“We don’t need a warrant to help you fix your property! My there are a lot of guns here.”).

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  35. Added AOC’s “clarification”:

    There are multiple doctored GND resolutions and FAQs floating around. There was also a draft version that got uploaded + taken down. There’s also draft versions floating out there.

    Point is, the real one is our submitted resolution, H.Res. 109: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109

    Dana (023079)

  36. The Daily Caller reports that Robert Hockett acknowledged his error this afternoon […]

    Amateurs.

    Never, ever admit your mistakes!

    Dave (1bb933)

  37. This is the squirrel — it’s just philosophically annoying. The rest of it is deadly.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  38. La cucaracha, la cucaracha
    No puede trabajar
    Por que no tiene, por que le falta
    Pina coladas a tomar

    nk (dbc370)

  39. aoc is more flatulance than a cow.
    mg (827274) — 2/9/2019 @ 3:10 pm

    has
    mg (827274) — 2/9/2019 @ 3:11 pm

    You got it right the first time. She’s a poot in a bubblebath. A Greenwich Village chamomile and lavender bubble bath.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Lol – Kevin M

    mg (827274)

  41. Has she had as long a run as Stormy Daniels yet?

    nk (dbc370)

  42. “I imagine that someone who is getting paid a boatload of money to interview politicians and their advisers, including those on the other side of the aisle, would have researched the subject to death. I spent this morning googling and reading all by myself and was able to discover the lie. Why didn’t Carlson and his staff, who likely do most of the work, do a better job to prepare the host of a national television program??”

    I didn’t express myself well, and I didn’t mean it as a defense. Yes, indeed, he should’ve been better prepped, I’d read all the background, I knew what she’d said, written, and what she’d “disappeared”. It was shocking to me that the guy was lying about everything, as Carlson weakly pushed back. That combined with the guy’s looks, his spastic tics, his squirming, HIS ENTIRE CLOWNISH PERFORMANCE, was like a tsunami. I sat transfixed on my couch, jaw-dropped, mouth agape.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. The young lady can barely mix a mai-tai, and it’s evidence of how effed-up things have gotten when you have a substantial number of mature adults wolfing down on her bullschiff…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. Journolist got to do what they do
    https://mobile.twitter.com/NoahPollak/status/1094331931984969728

    Narciso (d2ea20)

  45. The young lady can barely mix a mai-tai, and it’s evidence of how effed-up things have gotten when you have a substantial number of mature adults wolfing down on her bullschiff…

    Two cheers for populism!

    Dave (29ea72)

  46. populism is just a label

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. Ariana Grande is more popular.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. @47. ‘bullschiff…’?!?

    LOL. Then there’s the Lunex Project.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  49. 47… yes, and hooray for socialism.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  50. I suspect aoc never paid any taxes on those cash tips.

    mg (827274)

  51. Good point, mg.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. I suspect aoc never paid any taxes on those cash tips.

    Death and taxes, amigo.

    If a waitress or bartender reports less than 8% of gross receipts as tip income, the establishment is required to withhold the difference for the Feds.

    Of course, it’s still a pretty good deal if they’re getting 15-20% tips.

    Dave (1bb933)

  53. Proggies aren’t known to be generous tippers, they’re better at spending other people’s money.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  54. Correction: the establishment reports the difference as taxable income, but doesn’t withhold anything.

    Dave (1bb933)

  55. I had a buddy who was a bartender, and he would rage about people who stiffed him on big tabs, because it was increasing his tax exposure and actually making him pay the Feds out of his own pocket to serve them…

    Tipping is much less common overseas, so it was frequently tourists assuming service is included in the prices.

    I’m sure he didn’t report all his tips though, so I wasn’t real sympathetic…

    Dave (1bb933)

  56. 56
    So true , Col.

    mg (827274)

  57. AOC when the methane frozen at the bottom of the ocean starts to thaw and bubble up a lot of climate change deniers will be upset that they will be the first ones on the cattle cars to the clean energy recycling plant. I thinks its name is soylent green.

    lany (00a9fc)

  58. So obvious aoc knows very little about gardening as cow sh!t is composted is a valuble asset to any gardner. Let alone when a cow sh!ts in the pasture it breaks down and fertilizes the natural grasses of the praire. These fruit cakes need to be jailed,

    mg (827274)

  59. aoc can have my rib-eye when she prys it from my cold dead hands.

    mg (827274)

  60. Mistakes were made.
    It’s hard to coordinate.

    Though let us be the ones to create a greenhouse gas neutral society, that creates unprecedented prosperity for all while ensuring economic and environmental justice for all.

    Yeah, totally believable.

    Bbb (09e6d6)

  61. “Point is” that aoc is lying now about these so-called draft versions floating around. Like the one on her website they sent to noted alt right media NPR??

    She would be all in for the “draft.” She’s lying to get her bill passed. Fast learner!

    Plus, yes, her adviser’s toupee is ridiculous. He seems a little…weird, all in all, so maybe it fits.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  62. she butt-fumbled her first big play and justin fairfax likes raping women

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. “…..climate change deniers will be upset that they will be the first ones on the cattle cars to the clean energy recycling plant.”

    Sooner or later they let the real details slip out.

    harkin (75c725)

  64. Saw this earlier this morning in ‘Lines Trump should have said at the SOTU speech’:

    “There hasn’t been this many Democrats dressed in white since they formed the KKK.”

    harkin (75c725)

  65. How did AOC’s adviser get to be a Cornell law professor? He clearly lied–no one goes on national tv without knowing what document he’s discussing; and where’s his apology to Republicans for saying they made up the document and falsely disseminated it as AOC’s?

    Rochf (877dba)

  66. Haiku (#42)

    Carlson’s problem wasn’t that the guy was lying, he was OBFUSCATING. He was playing verbal three card monte, inventing things wholesale (“well, there were many versions floating around…”) and Carlson was faced with unknown unknowns. When people go that far off script, all your research and planning becomes worthless. Pretty much like when Obama claimed he’d called Benghazi “terrorism”, the moderator agreed, and Romney had no idea wtf they were talking about (it turned out that it was buries in 5 paragraphs of platitudes and the moderator knew only because she’d been unknowingly set up).

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  67. Carlson: How will we ever pay people who are, quote, unwilling to work?

    Hockett: We never would, right? And AOC has never said anything like that, right? I think you’re referring to some sort of document – I think some sort of doctored document that somebody other than us has been circulating.

    Why do they need to lie about this? It’s perfectly defensible.

    First of all, a guaranteed annual income, or a payment like people in Alaska get, is just that. It goes to people unwilling to work. Irregardless of everything.

    Furthermore, this is precisely the system we have now for all people over 70 I believe.

    More important, if you want to exclude people “unwilling to work” you get all kinds of extensive bureaucracy, with complicated tests and appeals processes, about whether someone really can’t work.
    And everyone knows, or should know, these tests don’t work. These are not hard facts.

    You also eliminate the need to distinguish between someone who has an unemployment problem and someone who has a disability problem. Or someone who has some kind of intermittent disease, like some people with sickle cell anemia, making iot possible to work, but only with a lot of flexibility which may not exist very much in the labor market.

    And then there is the question of what is a job a person should be required to take and so on.

    By including “unwilling to work” you eliminate all kinds of tests for eligibility. And also by having the payment irregardless of everything you eliminate all disincentives not to work.

    Only one thing: A (small) guaranteed income (enough for food, or enough to survive if you are homeless) should, of course, be paired with abolition, or a sharp reduction in the minimum wage – and they want to raise it. There should be penalties for delayed wages etc..

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  68. Kevin M (21ca15) — 2/10/2019 @ 12:08 pm Obama claimed he’d called Benghazi “terrorism”, the moderator agreed, and Romney had no idea wtf they were talking about (it turned out that it was buries in 5 paragraphs of platitudes and the moderator knew only because she’d been unknowingly set up).

    What Romney didn’t understand is that the position of the U.S. government ahd changed as time went on. They unlearned the fact that it was terrorism, until several weeks later. Romeny just didn’t understand this process.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  69. GOVERNOR RALPH NORTHAM: And, you know, while we have made a lot of progress in– in Virginia, slavery has ended,

    He’s treating 154 years ago as something contemporary?!

    schools have been desegregated.

    This was probably mostly done by 1970.

    We have ended the Jim Crow laws

    In 1964, the federal government put an end to them. That shoudl be listed second, not third.

    easier access to voting.

    That’s a dog whistle. There’s awhole story behind that. That is the on;y contemporary issue.

    It is abundantly clear that we still have a lot of work to do and I– I really think this week raised a level of awareness in the Commonwealth and in this country–

    That’s not true.

    GAYLE KING: …Who’s calling us, Margaret?

    Who was? That’s doesn’t happen too often that you hear aophone ring on a Sunday interview show. that’s something that happens on Saturday Night Live. (not this week)

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

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