You tell ’em, Rudy.

Trump insists he is innocent of any related crimes because he never explicitly asked for Cohen or AMI to violate campaign finance law by sitting on stories of his extra-marital affairs. And the president’s current lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, contends that the scandal is overblown entirely.

“Nobody got killed, nobody got robbed… This was not a big crime,” Giuliani told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. He added, sardonically, “I think in two weeks they’ll start with parking tickets that haven’t been paid.”

I know, right? Next thing they’ll target urinating in public.

Here’s what I would say to Rudy:

This is what broken windows theory is all about. I mean, if some guy is urinating in public, we got a problem. Now, you can do one of two things. You can ignore the problem and say: “Gee, I’m such a big fuzzy-headed liberal that I’m gonna walk away from it and we’re gonna make believe there’s no problem.” … You’ve got to pay attention to somebody urinating on the street. It may be a minor thing, it may be a serious thing, but you cannot ignore it. You have to deal with it. It is against the law to urinate in public.

That’s what I would say.

Oh wait.

Someone already said that.

Good old Rudy.

Ken White and Josh Barro have a weekly podcast titled “All the President’s Lawyers” — which I listen to religiously, and you should too — and they have this sound clip as part of their opening. I can’t hear any story about Rudy without wanting to share it, I love it so:

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]