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10/19/2018

Politics Today: Incendiary Rhetoric And Where It Leads

Filed under: General — Dana @ 3:06 pm

[guest post by Dana]

Two GOP candidates running for office in Minnesota were reportedly the victims of physical assault:

…Sarah Anderson was punched in the arm after spotting a man destroying Republican yard signs. She said the attack left her scared, and her attacker only desisted when she fled to her car and threw it in reverse.

“It was just insane. He was charging at me, saying, ‘Why don’t you go kill yourself?'” Anderson told the Washington Free Beacon. “To have someone physically coming after you and attacking you is just disheartening.”

The Plymouth Police Department investigation into Rep. Anderson’s alleged assault remains ongoing. A spokeswoman confirmed the department had identified a suspect, but declined further comment.

And:

First-time state representative candidate Shane Mekeland suffered a concussion after getting sucker punched while speaking with constituents at a restaurant in Benton County. Mekeland told the Free Beacon he has suffered memory loss—forgetting Rep. Anderson’s name at one point in the interview—and doctors tell him he will have a four-to-six week recovery time ahead of him. He said he was cold cocked while sitting at a high top table at a local eatery and hit his head on the floor.

“I was so overtaken by surprise and shock and if this is the new norm, this is not what I signed up for,” he said.

This comes after the Minnesota Democratic Party suspended a spokesman who posted on Facebook that Democrats would bring Republicans to the guillotine:

The Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party has suspended communications staffer William Davis for one week without pay after making a Facebook post joking that Democrats would “bring [Republicans] to the guillotine” on Nov. 7, the day after the midterm elections. Minnesota Republican Party chairman Jennifer Carnahan said the suspension was not enough, calling for his immediate firing in the aftermath of separate attacks against Republican candidates. She said she has been subjected to numerous death threats during her tenure as the state party leader and that death threats are no laughing matter.

“The overt hatred and violence that has become prevalent from many Democrats towards Republicans in recent times is unlawful, unacceptable, and downright scary,” she said in an email. “Yes, we have free speech and the right to peacefully assemble, but these words and actions by the left have gone too far. … He should have been terminated immediately.”

This also came days before a Democratic operative was arrested and charged with battery against a GOP campaign manager in Nevada:

Wilfred M. Stark III, who goes by Mike, was arrested Tuesday evening in Las Vegas, after Laxalt campaign manager Kristin Davison accused him of grabbing and yanking her arm and refusing to let go. Las Vegas City Marshals arrested Stark, who was later released.

Stark, who was a reporter for American Bridge 21st Century, was fired Wednesday night in the wake of the incident. A statement from the David Brock-founded organization said that “an incident with a member of Adam Laxalt’s campaign” had taken place, and “one of our employees” had been relieved of his duties “effective immediately.” The statement did not identify Stark or Davison.

Fox News is told that during the arrest, Stark explained to police that this was “his job” and he “does this for a living.”

Recently, Democratic notables have called on party members to be pro-active in their responses to the GOP:

*Eric Holder recently told a group of cheering Democrats that Michelle Obama was wrong with her admonition regarding Republicans, “When they go low, we go high.” Instead, said Holder, “When they go low, we kick them.”

*Rep. Maxine Waters encouraged protesters, “If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. You push back on them. Tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere!”

Hillary Clinton jumped into the fray too, having said during a recent interview, “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” obviously referring to the GOP.

*Sen. Cory Booker urged crowds to “get up in the face of some congresspeople.”

And so it goes.

Rep. Steve Scalise, who was one of four people shot at a baseball field in Virginia, wrote about his concerns regarding the escalating violence against GOP politicians. In the op-ed, he also listed the GOP legislators (and their spouses) who have been the recipients of aggressive and unlawful tactics:

The threats and the violence have not let up and instead of seeing my Democrat colleagues calling for an end, there have been calls for their supporters to keep going, to do even more to threaten Republicans.

In America, we win battles at the ballot box, not through mob rule or intimidation.

As a survivor of a politically motivated attack, it is tragic to think this is an acceptable state of political discourse in our country. I refuse to stand for this and I will continue to call for an end to it. A healthy, strong democracy is not possible if anyone lives in fear of expressing their views.

If this is going to stop, it must start with Democratic leaders, who need to condemn, rather than promote these dangerous calls to action.

In America, we win battles at the ballot box, not through mob rule or intimidation. While it’s clear many Democrats refuse to accept the election of President Trump, if they want change, they need to convince people with their ideas and actually win elections, rather than call for violent resistance, harassment, and mob rule.

Here is Scalise’s list:

*Ashley Kavanaugh, Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s wife and his daughters received multiple credible threats.

*Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn., received such a threatening phone call that the man has now been indicted.

*Jamie Gardner, wife of Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., wife, received a text of a beheading after the vote to confirm Justice Kavanaugh.

*Several Republican Senators had their personal information, including home addresses, posted to Wikipedia for threatening purposes by a Democrat House staffer.

*Congressman Clay Higgins (R-La.) received threatening phone calls that led to a man’s arrest.

*Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kent., and his wife Kelly Paul have both received credible threats that have led to arrests.

*Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and his wife, as well as White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, were chased out of restaurants.

*Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was confronted by protesters and harassed out of a DC restaurant.

*Rudy Peters, a Republican California Congressional candidate, was nearly stabbed while campaigning.

Obviously, this is wrong. Nobody should be threatening harm to anyone, and certainly elected officials should not be encouraging it in any way, shape or form. All of which makes it even more ridiculous that instead of a hands-down, non-stop condemnation of the overheated rhetoric fueling the fires of violence, there is a moronic “national conversation” currently taking place about what constitutes a “mob”. Seriously. When people are having their lives threatened with harm, or worse, have had those threats come to pass, shouldn’t insipid gasbags with a mic and a national platform be emphatically condemning the behavior rather than arguing over whether “mob” is a Republican talking point? Stop wasting my time quibbling about such absurdities. We have already suffered through the even more asinine accusation of Big Media that some targets on a political map were linked to the shooting of a congresswoman. All this sort of crap does is reinforce the pathetic state of partisan politics in 2018 and demonstrates a lack of seriousness about the putrid mess in which we currently find ourselves wading.

Protest, fine. Let your voice be heard, great. Call yourself a mob or a protester or whatever it is that floats your boat. But threatening your political opponents, physically assaulting or harassing them, doxxing or “getting in the face” of an individual is just wrong. Always. We all used to know that. We all used to believe that. We all used to agree with that. It’s what separated the civilized from the uncivilized. It was a commonly shared belief based on common values – in spite of our political differences. What has to be so broken with our political system a people that a clear consensus about this can can no longer be had? While Clinton, Holder, Booker and Waters might defend their comments, walk them back, make efforts to clarify, etc., the problem is, they already uttered the instructive words out loud. And there are simply too many frustrated, angry nutjobs just waiting for that nudge, that permission to do harm. Words matter. Especially if they come from political leaders.

But. Lest one believe that this encouragement of violence only comes from the left side of the aisle, let’s keep it real and be honest as we remember what the current occupant of the White House said in his efforts to become the next President of the United States, as well as remember his failure to immediately and forcefully condemn those whose behavior obviously demanded it . Moreover, just last night, before a cheering crowd, the same leader of the free world intentionally praised GOP Rep. Greg Gianforte in light of his assault on reporter Ben Jacobs as a rallying cry:

“Never wrestle him. You understand that? Never. Any guy that can do a body slam, he is my type! … I shouldn’t say that. You know, that’s nothing to be embarrassed about.” I had heard that he bodyslammed a reporter. And he was way up. And he was way up, and I said, oh this is the day of the election or just before, and I said, “Oh this is terrible, he’s going to lose the election.”

Surprisingly – or unsurprisingly, depending where you land on the cynic’s scale – the same Steve Scalise, whose words I just quoted above, “In America, we win battles at the ballot box, not through mob rule or intimidation. As a survivor of a politically motivated attack, it is tragic to think this is an acceptable state of political discourse in our country,” defended the president’s positive take on Gianforte:

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(I’m torn here. Because Scalise suffered a very serious injury at the hands of a deranged Bernie supporter with a gun, it was pretty clear that the media wasn’t terribly interested in it, so that makes me think he deserves a pass on this. And yet….)

Bottom line: no one has clean hands in this age of incivility. But the tribe you belong to or identify with should not determine your response to it. You do not need any of these professional idiots condescendingly telling you what is and isn’t acceptable, or what is and isn’t justified. You already know. Good and decent people simply condemn the behavior, loudly, and without hesitation. No matter from which side of the aisle it comes. The worst thing any of us could do would be to laugh away, or deny the incendiary rhetoric and unacceptable behavior because we believe that party loyalty supersedes everything else. Even our principles. All of it needs to be condemned, from beginning to end, no matter from whose mouth the words come, no matter at whose hands the violence occurs. And most importantly, regardless of who occupies the Oval Office.

[Pre-emptive strike: Proud Boys and Antifa are despicable groups and should be universally condemned. There should be no quarter given. That’s true even if these fringe dwellers are part of your tribe. This is a no-brainer. ]

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

64 Responses to “Politics Today: Incendiary Rhetoric And Where It Leads”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Unfortunately, you’re begging the question by suggesting that we use our words rather than our fists since there are a sizable number of people who insist that words *are* violence, that hurting my feelings is every bit as bad as hurting me physically. Suggesting that it’s obvious we should limit our disagreements to verbal sparring privileges facts and logic and rationality over opinions and thoughts and feelings and that’s exactly what’s at issue here, isn’t it? Personally, I think we should take these people at their word that offensive speech is the same as a physical attack – their words offend me so I’m justified in punching them in the mouth, right?

    Jerryskids (702a61)

  3. Excellent and thought-provoking post, Dana

    Thank you.

    John B Boddie (ebf63f)

  4. President Donald Trump: “Democrats Produce Mobs, Republicans Produce Jobs”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html

    harkin (adce92)

  5. The Democrats have the advantage on this because Republicans need to take their kids to school and go to work and then come back home and make dinner and make sure their kids do their homework and take a bath and brush their teeth before they go to bed and they just don’t have the time to go around harassing Democrats whereas Democrats don’t even have to go to the currency exchange anymore to cash their welfare check because now they get their benefits electronically with an EBT card and they have nothing else to do except hit the ATM for some cash from the EBT card to score some marijuana with and maybe some harder stuff and then go find a Republican to harass.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. “Any guy who can do a body slam … he’s my guy,”

    “I’d like to punch him in the face”

    “Maybe he should have been roughed up”

    “I’ll beat the crap out of you”

    “Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees”

    “Part of the problem is no one wants to hurt each other anymore”

    Yeah, it’s the Democrats. Sometimes you get what you ask for.

    Colonel Klink (d50a45)

  7. Minnesota Republican Party chairman Jennifer Carnahan said the suspension was not enough, calling for his immediate firing

    she seems like she might be something of a dipstick

    guillotine jokes on dirty zuckertwat’s dirty dirty facebook actually *raise* the level of discourse in the facebook sewer

    plus it was a joke

    this is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. A fish rots from the head down.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. this is why they invented the fish guillotine Mr. DCSCA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. Ms. Haley is right: Our political opponents are not evil, but there should be an exception for those partisans who commit evil acts against political opponents.

    Paul Montagu (1da0e1)

  11. Mob violence has always been a socialist tool. From the Wobblies (IWW) to the Communist socialists to the National socialists to every kind of socialist. Bourgeois violence is of necessity through police and prisons. For the reasons I stated above.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. smarmy nikki haley gets high on the smell of her own virtuous farts she’s like ben sasse with just a lil bit more wiggle in the walk

    ooh look at me look at how virtuous and saintly i am

    blech she’s gross

    the answer to incendiary isn’t saccharine vapid haley-twaddle

    the answer, obviously, is for people to become desensitized to incendiary speech

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. Nikki Haley is a great American.

    Paul Montagu (1da0e1)

  14. @9. Our Captain knows Fulton Street Market, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  15. it’s close to his building down there

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. Nikki Haley is one of those women who grows more beautiful as she grows older.

    nk (dbc370)

  17. The MSM has only one objective “Get Trump”.

    So of course, they’ll find a false equivalence between a R congressman pushing a reporter and a democrat trying to gun down Republican congressmen.

    They’re completely insincere and untrustworthy on this issue. Where are the expose’s of Antifa? Where are the Democrat party disavowals? Where was all the hang-wringing over Leftwing violence? Doesn’t happen. Its only the R’s that are held to account by the MSM.

    Trump is hilarious on this issue. I can remember the so-called body slam, and the reporter got what he deserved. He was pushing his camera in the man’s face, and despite constant warnings, refused to leave or move his camera.

    Of course, like most lawyers, journalists, etc. the reporter was used to fighting with his mouth, so when the Congressman took physical action, he responded like a little girl and cried. And he’s still crying. Poor baby.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  18. Of course, like most lawyers, journalists, etc. and Trump, the reporter was used to fighting with his mouth,

    Fixed that for you.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. she’s so pretty she should be a guest star on a show what has different pretty girls on it every week

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  20. The left has been trying to rile up their own Red guard for ages. They might finally succeed. Fortunately, we still have the 2nd Amendment unlike red China

    NJRob (fb7bbd)

  21. 11. Mob violence has always been a socialist tool for socialist tools. But Trump humpers are discovering it for themselves.

    Gryph (08c844)

  22. I’m torn here. Because Scalise suffered a very serious injury at the hands of a deranged Bernie supporter with a gun, it was pretty clear that the media wasn’t terribly interested in it, so that makes me think he deserves a pass on this.

    No pass. Scalise of all people should know better.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  23. Of course, OUR side should ALWAYS be held to an impossible standard, while the Left constantly gets a pass.

    That’s a standard the Left certainly agrees with.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  24. Rcocean said,

    I can remember the so-called body slam, and the reporter got what he deserved. He was pushing his camera in the man’s face, and despite constant warnings, refused to leave or move his camera.

    Of course, like most lawyers, journalists, etc. the reporter was used to fighting with his mouth, so when the Congressman took physical action, he responded like a little girl and cried. And he’s still crying. Poor baby.

    This from a witness:

    As the time for the interview neared, Gianforte came into the room. We exchanged pleasantries and made small talk about restaurants and Bozeman.

    During that conversation, another man — who we now know is Ben Jacobs of The Guardian — walked into the room with a voice recorder, put it up to Gianforte’s face and began asking if him if he had a response to the newly released Congressional Budget Office report on the American Health Care Act. Gianforte told him he would get to him later. Jacobs persisted with his question. Gianforte told him to talk to his press guy, Shane Scanlon.

    At that point, Gianforte grabbed Jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him into the ground behind him. Faith, Keith and I watched in disbelief as Gianforte then began punching the man, as he moved on top the reporter and began yelling something to the effect of “I’m sick and tired of this!”

    So I guess you’re ok with a Democratic elected official doing something similar then?

    Dana (023079)

  25. Every commenter here can understand the difference between a personal attack on another comment and a criticism of the argument.

    If they can’t understand the distinction, I’m happy to direct them elsewhere.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  26. Wasn’t there video of the attack which showed “The body slam” was just a push to the ground? And the “Punching the man” was in fact part of ambiguous – hard to see what was happening – physical struggle which involved both sides?

    Like I wrote elsewhere, remember Michelle Fields? Her reporter friends swore up and down that Cory L. had “Brutally pulled her to the ground” after she dared to ask him a question. Then the video shows nothing like that occurred.

    So, when an “Eyewitness” turns out to be another left-wing reporter, paint me skeptical.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  27. IRC, the Congressman (Or was he running for Congress?) had aides that told a different story.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  28. https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1053332441757294592
    One of the protesters is local GOP chairman.

    kishnevi (30d0bc)

  29. And no, I’m not in favor of attacking anyone. But physical kerfuffles occur. So, absent a pattern of violence, how should we react when someone gets overheated and pushes or even slaps/punches someone after provocation?

    rcocean (1a839e)

  30. 26
    From what I remember the video backs up the reporter, not the politician.

    And this, from Wikipedia’s page on him. If it was what you say, why did he plead guilty?

    On June 12, 2017, Gianforte pleaded guilty in court on a charge of misdemeanor assault stemming from his May 24 attack on The Guardian political reporter Ben Jacobs.[4] He was sentenced to 40 hours of community service, 20 hours of anger management, a 180-day deferred sentence, and a $300 fine along with an $85 court fee.[5][6] As part of his settlement with Jacobs, Gianforte donated $50,000 to the Committee to Protect Journalists, which said it would use the funds to support the U.S. Press Freedom Tracker.[7]

    kishnevi (30d0bc)

  31. Is that the same Mark Judge who wrote a book about what a bunch of rotten, drunken, teenage punks he and his schoolmates were?

    nk (dbc370)

  32. Oh that makes it alright then, my mistake,

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. One of the protesters is local GOP chairman.
    kishnevi (30d0bc) — 10/19/2018 @ 7:29 pm

    Protests usually are organized.

    nk (dbc370)

  34. I dunno Patrick. Scalise outta know better except maybe since he got gut shot he actually does know better and that is what his wisdom on the issue tells him

    steveg (a9dcab)

  35. 35. We mock liberals who play the “Absolute Moral Authority(TM)” card. As I have been telling Trump voters for the last nearly two years, take caution you don’t turn into what you thought you hated.

    Gryph (08c844)

  36. “Flow my tears”, the policeman said. It’s a tossup whether it is Judge or Ford who is most responsible for Kavanaugh’s ordeal. Judge wrote the book that provided Ford’s fodder. Now he complains that its resurrection from what remainder bin or library shelf it was on was an invasion of his privacy? He’s a jerk, but that tearjerker GoFundMe appeal you linked should not jerk any tears from anyone.

    nk (dbc370)

  37. And no I don’t think it is OK to chase Nancy Pelosi around screaming “Fucking Communist” at her. But I think it is best to give people who were gutshot a pass in the sense that I would try argue with others about it and let the gutshot person answer for themselves without direct comment personally on their argument. Their personal experience with political violence is real and raw and there is little point gained in arguing with victims that they need to see things your way, NO PASS.
    If you get gutshot over political nonsense, or get SWATTED again or whatever, I’ll try to remember to give you the grace to rage on a bit

    steveg (a9dcab)

  38. So chance the rapper could be your new mayor, yes his family name is,Bennett jenkins

    Narciso (d1f714)

  39. I’d vote for him but he’s not running. He’s supporting some lady I’ve never heard of. Maybe she’s his music teacher or something.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Nah, its gonna be Newarks former finest Gerry McCarthy so long as Bill Daley doesn’t split off too much oirish in Round 1.

    urbanleftbehind (6098cf)

  41. She fine though.

    urbanleftbehind (6098cf)

  42. Let me put it this way.
    John McCain spent years in the Hanoi Hilton with broken bones, rat infested cells, beatings, no food, no medical care and used that experience to say that 5 minutes of waterboarding with doctors, lawyers, halal food, clean cell, no rats equals torture. I disagreed vehemently with him here in your blog, but he always held that wild card that he was dealt under deep duress. That doesn’t mean your debate opponent gets to play his card as a winner without discussion, but you do have to acknowledge that Scalises experience and conclusions are his and they were hard won, and move on to “I am debating you, not Scalise”

    steveg (a9dcab)

  43. 42. John McCain is a perfect example of a preening AMA-wielding blowhard. I quite frankly don’t give a greasy brown crap how someone has suffered (beyond the need for basic human dignity and bare compassion for someone I don’t personally know). If you say something publicly that makes me think you’re full of **it, I’ll say so. And I’ll be even more likely to lodge a public retort if you’re a politician.

    Gryph (08c844)

  44. 5 minutes of waterboarding with doctors, lawyers, halal food, clean cell, no rats equals torture

    McCain knew that none of that is true. Not for the first six months when the detainee was being interrogated.
    “5 minutes of waterboarding” — 183 times. BTW, how long can you hold your breath under water?
    “doctors” — To revive you because the waterboarding had shut down your breathing and your heart was next.
    “lawyers” — Only the ones in the Justice Department who called it “enhanced interrogation”.
    “halal food” — Nope. “Forced liquid diet” with things scooped from a toilet to both humiliate and cause dysentery and accelerated dehydration.
    “clean cell” — Except for you own feces when you had voided while hanging from chains by manacles on your wrists around the clock.
    “No rats” — Only two-legged ones from the CIA.

    Do you even know what waterboarding is? It’s a board like a see-saw. They strap you on it face up. At the head end of the board there is a big tub of water. The “enhanced interrogator” tilts you down so that your head goes under the water. Then he holds you there until there’s lots of bubbles when you breathe out. Then he holds you some there some more until you turn blue. Then he tilts you back and he and the “doctor” revive you. Then they do it again.

    nk (dbc370)

  45. It’s no fun I imagine, thanks to Obama leaking the memos in question, the terrorist likely have their own sere countermeasures set up.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  46. That’s not waterboarding as done by Americans nk.

    NJRob (1d7532)

  47. The EPA-approved water-conserving one with the wet towel over the face, NJRob? I’m not sure I believe it but, assuming it’s so for the sake of argument, what difference does it make? You still get the same liquid suffocation as immersion under water. When you try to breathe in, you breathe in water, and your breathing shuts down.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. Kishnevi @ 28,

    We seem to be stuck in a loop of “but they did it first” sort of excuse/justification for this kind of behavior. I don’t know what it will take to break the cycle, but reading the comments at your link doesn’t offer much in the way of reassurance that it will be resolved anytime soon.

    Dana (023079)

  49. No pass. Scalise of all people should know better.

    Patterico (115b1f) — 10/19/2018 @ 6:01 pm

    What does bother me with his comment is the brush-it-off-no-big-deal “he was only joking” line that little kids use when they’re caught meanly teasing their siblings. But mom, I was just joking!

    Clearly, if Gianforte was compelled to plead guilty to a misdemeanor assault charge, pay fines and do community service, it was a big deal and certainly not something POTUS should be “joking” about with regard to the assailant. But I don’t think Trump was joking. I think he was high-giving Gianforte for what he did. He admired him.

    Also, in the video, it’s interesting to note that Trump’s concern upon hearing of Gianforte’s assault on Jacobs, was concern that he might lose the election, not concern about whom he assaulted and that he committed an illegal act.

    Dana (023079)

  50. Opinions are like elbows…

    Colonel Haiku (42c195)

  51. Hate speech is manifestly a hate crime.

    When is the last time you heard caterwauling from the Left about hate crimes?

    A direct and immediate threatening response to a first/initial threat is almost always justifiable.

    Societally? Either we enforce a general peace, or we do not. No sides taken. You stir things up using intimations of violence? Shackled. You shutdown public thoroughfares? Enjoy your stay behind bars. All of you.

    Your actions serve to limit/alter access to political speech? You pay a severe price. Your right to expression ends when you attempt to prevent mine.

    Ed from SFV (6d42fa)

  52. when you have eric holder, nancy pelosi and hillary clinton going full che guevera on us so they don’t get kicked out of democratic party leadership things are getting serious!

    lany (ea69c2)

  53. I look at which side is going berserk on people/property to judge which side’s words are taken as instructions or jokes.

    harkin (adce92)

  54. For Patterico, right wing speech is violence and liberal/progressive violence is speech. He has a public employee view of the private sector: tax slaves to be exploited.

    I guess Typhus in LA just isn’t enough of a clue bat for Patterico.

    Jack (e5af45)

  55. If you physically attack people enough they WILL fight back. Patterico has a problem with that.

    How many leftist speakers have been protested and attacked on UCLA campuses Pat?

    How many right wing speakers have been attacked Pat? How many leftist pols have been attacked Pat?

    And yet for you there is some sort of equivalency between the two.

    Jack (e5af45)

  56. For Patterico, right wing speech is violence and liberal/progressive violence is speech. He has a public employee view of the private sector: tax slaves to be exploited.

    I guess Typhus in LA just isn’t enough of a clue bat for Patterico.

    Goodbye, moron.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  57. cubans went after pelosi in florida yesterday.the battle is joined! hope the other side doesn’t count killing abortion workers when adding up the score. yell they are killing babies as both sides reload.

    lany (4b09ab)

  58. 59 – take heart, there are still adults in Congress:

    ““I don’t agree with Nancy Pelosi’s agenda, but this is absolutely the wrong way to express those disagreements,” tweeted Republican Rep. Steve Scalise, who last year was seriously wounded after a shooting at a congressional baseball team practice. “If you want to stop her policies, don’t threaten her, VOTE! That’s how we settle our differences.”

    harkin (adce92)

  59. well bringing Barbara lee, to little Havana, is an act of war, put it mildly, like bringing david duke to Ebenezer Baptist church,

    narciso (d1f714)

  60. “NBC’s John Harwood says that President Donald Tump has added to his secret lexicon of racist dog whistles – the new addition is “mob.””

    Related:

    Hot Air – Noah Rothman with citations of The New York Times, Rolling Stone, Slate, Huffington Post, The Root, Politico, The Christian Science Monitor, The LA Times, Thinkprogress etc. calling the Tea Party a ‘mob’.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/10/10/reminder-people-left-no-problem-labeling-tea-party-mob/

    Also:

    Babylon Bee: Mafia Requests To No Longer Be Called ‘The Mob’ Because Of Negative Association With Political Activists

    harkin (adce92)

  61. meanwhile, Gillum is a graduate of one of soros training academies.

    narciso (d1f714)

  62. Go-along, get-along “conservatives” like Dana and Patterico are the reason Trump got elected. Of course, such wimps are probably very popular with their many liberal friends.

    The Great Ape of Madagascar (7654f5)

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