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10/9/2018

Radical Left: Trust Us, We Are the Most Insane!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:55 am

Any time I say that the right has its crazies too, unhinged leftists crawl out of the woodwork acting like mobs — on the streets and on Twitter — as if to say: “No, we’re worse. Don’t try to take our title away!” Here’s Antifa protestors in Portland harassing an elderly white man trying to drive on the street:

More here. That’s your street mob. Now for the Twitter mob. Astronaut Scott Kelly tweeted this:

Uh-oh, Scott. That’s very problematic. What, you didn’t know Churchill was an awful racist?

The BBC intones, regarding the guy who rallied their country to a seemingly improbable victory:

But Churchill is also known for quotes like “I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place”, in reference to indigenous populations of North America and Australia.

Kelly’s Twitter followers also linked Churchill to a famine in Bengal, India, that killed at least three million people in 1943.

Kelly has apologized for calling the great leader a great leader.

Whew. Thank goodness. That was close.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

47 Responses to “Radical Left: Trust Us, We Are the Most Insane!”

  1. The deeply sad part is that the crazies there (and here) are a tiny minority. They know that they can gibber like lunatics, and even push people around, without any kind of consequences. This is because most people don’t want to rise up and put a stop to it.

    Until they do, that is.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  2. seems like there’s always some momo boofing out some stupid gutless astronaut-style crap on twitter

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Very sad. Things must change.

    Colonel Haiku (1fcc64)

  4. This is like the shaming of using Jefferson and Washington quotes because they were slaveholders, despite them being one of the wisest and most enlightened men of their times. It’s a classic case of draping 21st century culture over prevailing 18th and 20th century values.

    Paul Montagu (28f6c3)

  5. I agree, Paul. And I have helped some students learn that “cultural relativism” cuts both ways. It’s wrong to judge a prior culture by the standards we have now…when we are discussing that culture and the people raised within it.

    My favorite bit. A student I knew taking bioethics was writing a paper about the history of abortion. She had made a feminist hero of Margaret Sanger, because her professor had preached it so. So very carefully, I asked her to do a quotation search that took her here:

    “…Birth control is not contraception indiscriminately and thoughtlessly practiced. It means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks— those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization….”

    https://www.nytimes.com/1923/04/08/archives/apostle-of-birth-control-sees-cause-gaining-here-hearing-in-albany.html

    And that was the mildest of what she found.

    The student was well and truly shocked. I asked her if it was right to judge Sanger’s other ideas by the standards we currently hold on that topic? Reflexively, she said no.

    Then I waited for the penny to drop. Her eyes got very, very wide.

    I do my part.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  6. Oh, heck, I messed up the quotations. Sorry.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  7. “Any time I say that the right has its crazies too, unhinged leftists crawl out of the woodwork acting like mobs — on the streets and on Twitter — as if to say: ‘No, we’re worse. Don’t try to take our title away!'”

    Well yeah!

    Gryph (08c844)

  8. Astronaut Kelly has been known to be above all this.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. 10. The whole world looks up to him. 😛

    Gryph (08c844)

  10. Simon Jester, that’s the right way to approach a left leaner! I think of them as cult members, so deprogramming has to occur slowly, carefully.

    My “favorite” crazies were the ones pounding on the door of the Supreme court, shrieking like banshees. Yes, I want you to run our country! NOT.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  11. Now, youse guys need to make up your minds, see. I can’t make up my mind whether I’m supposed to go around being a dangerous, unhinged leftest or the complete opposite – a hapless snowflake. You need to make up your minds about this. How’s a good leftist supposed to act, anyway?

    Tillman (61f3c8)

  12. How’s a good leftist supposed to act, anyway?

    You remember Hannity and Whatshisname? Act like Whatshisname.

    Appalled (96665e)

  13. 14, while I think that Colmes did not have the right amount of spunk, I reluctantly agree. On that note, George Zimmerman should act like “the other guys” (not Rolando Cruz) from the Jeanine Nicarico murder case.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  14. Now, youse guys need to make up your minds, see. I can’t make up my mind whether I’m supposed to go around being a dangerous, unhinged leftest or the complete opposite – a hapless snowflake. You need to make up your minds about this. How’s a good leftist supposed to act, anyway?

    Each according to his ability, to each according to his need, Comrade Tillman. Whether you are the hero who walks through the minefield or the Kommissar with the machine gun aimed at you to make sure you do it, that is up to the Party to decide, and it will be the correct decision because the Party is always correct.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. @13. Check on how that ‘Reagan Dime’ is coming along.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  16. Reminds me of the Bulgarian partisan in the first Alan furst.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  17. Churchill was a better leader drunk than the rest were sober.

    AZ Bob (50520d)

  18. This New Yorker cartoon reminds me of the recent left-wing hysterics.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  19. Yeah, it’s rough when historical figures who did some really great things also did some really horrible things. But, if you strip out the culture war context where every left/right interaction is a HUGE DEAL is there really a that much wrong with this?

    Scott quotes Churchill, who did great things. To me it reads as a sarcastic appeal to authority. Someone else pointed out that Churchill did some nasty stuff also. By they way, I have no idea who they are. They’ve got less than 100 people following their tweet so they’re not all that influential on twitter. Being quoted on this blog may be the most influence they’ve ever had. They seem to be from Myanmar. I don’t know (and am too lazy to look up) if that was an area of the world Churchill did something horrible. But it’s reasonable that they might be a little more sensitive to the downsides of British Colonialism than I am.

    Scott closes by saying he didn’t mean to be offensive and that he’ll go learn about that aspect of Churchill’s past. He than restates his point plainly.

    Patterico, where is the harm in the twitter responses particularly for this conversation? I fully acknowledge that some get much much worse but I don’t see it here. I skimmed the tweets. Most were stupid but it didn’t seem like people were screaming for blood. It wasn’t polite or nuanced discourse but…it’s twitter.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  20. Love that Paul!

    Patricia (3363ec)

  21. And the Antifa protesters should probably have been arrested from everything I can see in this incident.

    I dislike Atfifa. They are odious and weaken a great point (Nazi & Alt Right Bad) through their association with it.

    Time123 (306531)

  22. It’s not like the British in England were living in the lap of luxury in 1943.
    There was rationing which extended years past VE Day.

    Neo (d1c681)

  23. Gosh I love The Babylon Bee, along with Scrappleface the humor site that The Onion should have been:

    The Left Learns An Important Lesson From The Kavanaugh Fight: They Need To Be Even More Obnoxious

    U.S.—After failing to stop the confirmation of Justice Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, the left pointed to what they think was their main area of failure: they just weren’t obnoxious enough.

    “We yelled, we mobbed, we called people rapist-sympathizers,” said activist Candice Norris, “but it just wasn’t enough. Obviously, we need to screech even louder and at even more people if we’re to convince others we’re really sure we’re right about everything.”

    Student Harriet Curry agreed. “Some people are still trying to engage with people on the other side, but we have a saying: ‘If you’re being coherent, you’re losing.’ If we want to win these fights, we need to build up anger inside us and then direct that into screaming and sometimes pounding on things. You can use a few words as long as they’re simple like ‘Nazi’ or ‘rapist’, but don’t go overboard.”

    The hope on the left is that increased obnoxiousness will help them win in the midterms. “I’m working on the world’s most annoying sound,” said activist Phillip Miller. “On election day, I plan to go from polling place to polling place, jump up and down, and make that sound. I think people will really respond to that energy.” If that doesn’t work, Miller still has one more ace up his sleeve to win over undecideds. “I’m going to start biting people.”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/the-left-learns-an-important-lesson-from-the-kavanaugh-fight-they-need-to-be-even-more-obnoxious

    harkin (adce92)

  24. O/T but a fond family memory; Churchill’s widow, Clementine, lived out her remaining years very quietly ‘next door’ to us in the adjoining building of flats at 7 Princes Gate in London. She was elderly and a very private person but occasionally we’d catch a glimpse of her outdoors in the closed off flower gardens in the ‘backyard’ – usually w/a friend or nursing aide. One afternoon- for a homework assignment– my younger brother literally walked over to the building after school and made an effort to interview her for his grade school paper but was very, very politely informed she no longer did ‘interviews.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. “Holy cr*p! Our base is basically a deranged mob……I know, let’s blame Republicans!”

    ‘THE JOURNOLIST IS HOPPING:

    ● Republicans have a new name for Democrats: ‘mob.’

    —CNN, Sunday.

    ● ‘An angry mob’: Republicans work to recast Democratic protests as out-of-control anarchy.

    —The Washington Post, yesterday.

    ● Republicans Seize On Stoking Fears Of Left-Leaning Mob To Mobilize Voters.

    —Talking Points Memo, today.

    ● The GOP’s sneaky attempt to paint the majority as an angry left-wing mob.

    —The Week, today.

    ● Republicans: Protesters Are an Unruly Mob — Unless They’re Heavily Armed and Support Us.

    —New York magazine, today.

    ● WATCH: Brooke Baldwin Clashes With CNN Commentator Matt Lewis for Calling Ted Cruz Restaurant Protesters a ‘Mob.’

    —Mediaite, today.’

    H/t Instapundit

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

    harkin (adce92)

  26. 26… you are either Zelig or Forrest Gump, DCSCA… haven’t determined which, but leaning Gump.

    Colonel Haiku (1fcc64)

  27. Incredible man of mystery @ht jd well wait there were those protesters in Nevada and Oregon oh never mind.

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. Right on time……

    Jerry Dunleavy
    @JerryDunleavy

    LOL
    @BrookeBCNN
    calls the word mob “the m-word.”

    __ _

    I would have given anything to sit in on that Juicebox conference call…..

    harkin (adce92)

  29. Its like the Borg they cont really need much prompting.

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. If you want to troll the alt-right, you go to one of their events and behave provocatively, pepper spray them. There will be a brawl that looks like soccer hooligans. Both sides will engage in mutual combat

    If you want to troll the left, you go to a university campus and claim Kavanaugh was entitled to the presumption of innocence. Make sure your healthcare insurance is paid up because even at Stanford, the leftist mob will default to violence because they have a weak argument

    steveg (a9dcab)

  31. ● Republicans: Protesters Are an Unruly Mob — Unless They’re Heavily Armed and Support Us.

    —New York magazine, today.

    2010: A million angry bourgeoisie descend on DC with the Tea Party and show their mobbishness by picking up after themselves.

    never: Leftists picking up their room.

    Kevin M (d6cbf1)

  32. Its also interesting to me to see what the crazy left considers fighting words.
    Like illegal immigrant. Go onto a campus and set up a table with that as a topic for discussion.
    You stand a good chance of being attacked even though the discussion should be about people who broke the law when they entered the country and are actively breaking the law by staying here, further breaking the law by working here and maybe using forged documents to obtain that work.

    The left has an argument with the laws, which is their right, but the description of an immigrant actively breaking laws drives them batshit loony. They sputter, spit and scream and then tear down the signage.

    That is why I worry more about the left. They are normalizing narrow mindedness and nonsensical rage. You can’t debate on the facts because their feelings are hurt by facts they don’t like

    steveg (a9dcab)

  33. Leftist mob types don’t use Tide for clothes.
    And have no idea what a bar of soap is.

    mg (9e54f8)

  34. @26. Per the new commenting rules, please refrain from the personal comments. Thank you.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  35. ^@36 re-#28. Typo. Thank you again, Haiku.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  36. You offered a personal anecdote, DCSCA. Don’t offer personal information if you don’t want people to respond.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. It’s actually an interesting anecdote and I’m glad you commented, and you know you have had some unusual moments in your life or you wouldn’t have shared them. But when you drop famous names in the comments, it naturally raises questions.

    DRJ (15874d)

  38. you know who offered up a fun personal anecdote was Christine Ford with that rape joke she told on Brett Kavanaugh

    everyone was like what’s up with this weirdo she can’t even remember what house she got raped in (liar)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. It’s indelicately put, when a man’s career and perhaps even liberty is at stake.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  40. Kevin M nailed it:

    2011
    Noah Rothman
    @NoahCRothman
    Taibbi: “Beneath the surface, the Tea Party is little more than a weird and disorderly mob…”
    __ _

    Stephen Miller
    @redsteeze
    That angry mob who picked up their garbage after rallies

    __ _

    harkin (adce92)

  41. @40. Haiku did not ‘raise questions’ DRJ.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  42. Yes, I did. I just indicated I was leaning toward one particular answer.

    Colonel Haiku (1fcc64)

  43. 45. No, you were just snarking. But if it makes you feel better met Allen at the Hard Rock in London and Hanks at the Beverly Hilton in LA so either one works for me. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. Then there are the radical “sorters”

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-man-built-bomb-for-election-day-detonation-in-washington-officials-say

    Not clear if they are left or right but a few observations:

    1. Picking officials at random is on the chaotic end of the law-chaos scale, and
    2. Why now, considering how close to fruition their plan came in 2016?

    Kevin M (d6cbf1)

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