Susan Collins, Michael Avenatti And The Vote
[guest post by Dana]
Just a quick update here. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), along with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.), voted this afternoon in support of Brett Kavanaugh. Collins had this to say about Christine Blasey Ford’s allegation against the nominee:
I found [Christine Blasey Ford’s] testimony to be sincere, painful and compelling. I believe that she is a survivor of a sexual assault and that this trauma has upended her life. Nevertheless, the four witnesses she named could not corroborate any of the events.
She also rightly observed that the Senate would be “ill-served in the long-term if we abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness, as tempting as it may be.” Sen. Collins also mentioned that at the end of the day, there were inconsistencies and a lack of corroboration in Ford’s story, saying that it failed to meet the “more likely than not” standard.”
Further, she was pointed to the Democrats exploitation of Ford. Democrats who have consistently touted themselves as the torch-bearers for the #MeToo movement:
You have taken a survivor… who also trusted you to protect her and you have sacrificed her well being in a misguided attempt to win whatever political crusade you think you are fighting.
Amusingly, Michael Avenatti took a well-deserved hit from Collins today as she subtly referenced the outrageous claims of his client. Much to his chagrin, her implication was that it was the very outlandishness of his client’s claim that caused her to re-examine the allegations, and believe that Kavanaugh was not be the monster he was being made out to be:
“Some of the allegations levied against Judge Kavanaugh illustrate why the presumption of innocence is so important,” Collins said. “I am thinking in particular not of the allegations raised by Professor Ford, but of the allegation that when he was a teenager, Judge Kavanaugh drugged multiple girls and used their weakened state to facilitate gang rape.”
To which, the ever gracious, I-am-not-a-publicity-whore Avenatti shot back:
Sen. Collins is channeling Donald Trump. Entirely disingenuous and shameful. Where was she when Judge Garland could not even get an up or down vote? This is all about her post-office job opportunities on K street. We shall never forget. Not in Nov. Not in 2020. Not ever.
Sen. Collins should be ashamed of herself for attacking my client and Dr. Ford. How did she make a credibility determination as to my client? How is she qualified to do that without ANY investigation? She did ZERO to determine whether my client and her witnesses were credible.
Because hysteria is all the rage these days, let’s check in with our favorite non-partisan, even-handed journalist:
And let’s throw in a little confused hysteria from the New York Times:
–Dana
These people.
Dana (023079) — 10/5/2018 @ 2:57 pmWell… that was something, eh?
At some point, the actuary tables say that RBG will no longer be on the Court.
Buckle your seatbelt for that one…
B.A. DuBois (8ed1cc) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:00 pmmy guess would be that the revelations about dirty fbi sleazer monica mclean’s bungling attempts at witness tampering scared susan collins away from going all in on the christine ford rape hoax
this dirty rape hoax is gonna blow up in somebody’s face and susan said well it ain’t gonna be mine
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:08 pmThis is so important. Vital, really:
On this, everyone *should* not only be able to agree, but heartily support a sitting senator proclaiming it before the body.
Dana (5040f5) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:14 pmAvenatti made a critical mistake in his response by referencing “Merrick Garland”, that’s a safeword in four out of five DC brothels
Pencil-Necked Pundit (2c3f6d) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:19 pmFrom now on, I don’t order lobster unless it’s from Maine.
nk (dbc370) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:24 pmGreat comment #1, Dana. Pithy; apt.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:29 pmPencil-Necked Pundit (2c3f6d) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:19 pm
With “Hillary” being the safeword in the fifth brothel.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:38 pm8:
whoa, whoa, whoa, the aim is to cool you down, not to induce vomiting, gonna need you to take it down to like a 2 or 3 here
Pencil-Necked Pundit (caa1b1) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:43 pmMoney-making opportunity: Creepy P0rn Lawyer Halloween costumes
Colonel Haiku (c60926) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:44 pmwhen the Wurlitzer gets going:
://amgreatness.com/2018/10/05/the-politics-of-personal-destruction-redux/#.W7df0J9tu7Y.twitter
um palomino,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:45 pmYou have to wonder if the Times and Acosta even realize that the comments above are basically admissions that the accusations and smears were all hokum and that the real issue was keeping the court from becoming more conservative.
Only the sleazy porn lawyer mentioned the accusations.
I applaud Collins for making the right decision but this passage stinks:
“ill-served in the long-term if we abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness, as tempting as it may be.”
Why would it be tempting to abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness??
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:46 pmYeah, but let’s not kid ourselves. There has to be a reason Bart has kept distancing himself from his ‘wild child,’ partying past. He’s no shrinking violet and can bark back at authority figures like a U.S. senator with ease. It doesn’t make sense. That ‘choirboy-boy scout’ image is just plain bull. Back in the day he was boastful about his wicked ways and pretty proud of the antics he and his upchucking buddies got away with. So much so, he wanted to warn neighbors about it- -as in his Beach Week, Ocean City, MD., letter.
And the thing is, if he’d embraced who he was right up front, copped to something like, ‘yeah, I was a party animal back in the day and we did some stupid things but but I grew up and out of it into a responsible adult’- pretty much like everybody else at that age- the wind would have been knocked out of the sails of most criticisms from those times and much of the muck thrown back and forth these past few weeks would likely have been chalked up to Barfin’ Bart and his teenie-boofing wrecking crew. Bet even Grassley and Hatch dipped a pigtail or two in an inkwell or stuck a potato up the exhaust pipe of a Model A. If anything, Bart’s kids now know their Dad was quite the party animal and a jerk with a rep so damned Blutto-cool, only the likes of Matt Damon can play him on TeeVee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:46 pmColonel Haiku (c60926) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:44 pm
That’s a great idea, colonel. Here’s my check.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:47 pmwinner kavenaugh (until lefty democrats kick out corporate establishment squish democrats and impeach republicans off supreme court.) winners democrats in november as democrats will crawl out of the woodwork to vote. happy republicans not so much. loser republican party especially never trump establishment republicans they are thru!
lany (6f447a) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:48 pmYou haven’t been to the fifth brothel, I gather. The password is “swordfish.”
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:50 pmOn this, everyone *should* not only be able to agree, but heartily support a sitting senator proclaiming it before the body.
Dana (5040f5) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:14 pm
The presumption of innocence was never abandoned. What the Democrats wanted to do was simply investigate anything and everything with unlimited scope until they found something or ran out the clock.
If that sounds like a distinction without a difference, then maybe that’s because it is.
And yet, many of the same people here who find this disturbing when used against Kavanaugh, give a resounding “meh” when it’s used against Trump or outright cheer it on.
Munroe (158d48) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:50 pmI’ll wait for the fat lady’ to sing.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:51 pm12: “Bet even Grassley and Hatch dipped a pigtail or two in an inkwell or stuck a potato up the exhaust pipe of a Model A.”
The words I’m looking for are ‘projection’, ‘this says a heckuva lot more about you than it says about him, and ‘yuck’.
And “you know what, don’t even bother explaining”
Pencil-Necked Pundit (32656a) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:52 pmSenator Palin sounds mighty fine to me.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:52 pm“Money-making opportunity: Creepy P0rn Lawyer Halloween costumes”
Best I’ve seen so far this year is the Sexy Handmaid costume, but the squealing hoards of pink and blue-haired plus-size members of the #metoo brigade got them to remove it from stock.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:53 pmRe-posted because one word apparently put me in moderation:
You have to wonder if the Times and Acosta even realize that the comments above are basically admissions that the accusations and smears were all hokum and that the real issue was keeping the court from becoming more conservative.
Only the sleazy p0rn lawyer mentioned the accusations.
I applaud Collins for making the right decision but this passage stinks:
“ill-served in the long-term if we abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness, as tempting as it may be.”
Why would it be tempting to abandon the presumption of innocence and fairness??
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:55 pm15:
Security that poor indicates an obvious honey trap with obviously low-quality and unvetted participants who get up to ANYTHING, maybe die-hard deviants like Julie Swetnick and DCSCA frequent the place to explore the true meaning of potatomotive energy but it’s not something that ordinary decent DC degenerates want to be around.
Pencil-Necked Pundit (c36238) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:56 pmThink back on comments from some earlier this year that shared thoughts of how political parties don’t matter, all politicians are the same, virtually no difference in them, etc,.
Now back to here and now, just before the mid-term elections… do any of you feel that’s the case? Or do you realize what’s at stake? Think long and hard about this… consider voting for your state, county, city’s candidates, warts and all. There is something fundamentally American that we are on the cusp of losing, and once gone, we may not be able to get it back.
Colonel Haiku (c60926) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:57 pmI’ll wait for the fat lady’ to sing.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:51 pm
I thought Barney Frank retired?
Just kiddin’… 😄
Colonel Haiku (c60926) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:59 pmJustice Palin would sound better! o.O
whembly (d40ad5) — 10/5/2018 @ 3:59 pmThe ongoing attempts to compromise senators have probably reached a fever-pitch. Better be on their best behavior!
Colonel Haiku (c60926) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:04 pmDitto, now with the presence of both laufman and Bromwich not to mention their clients McLean and McCabe the outlines of this frame up come into sharp relief,
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:05 pmYo’ Bart! It’s ‘Miller Time,’ big fella! But tonight, tonight, tonight… let it be Lowenbrau.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:06 pmPencil-necked pundit, at #22:
> die-hard deviants like Julie Swetnick and DCSCA
that does not strike me as being consistent with the commenting rules laid out at https://patterico.com/2018/09/15/new-commenting-rules/
it’s not for me to enforce rules, of course, but i think it’s worth observing that *at the very least* it’s inconsistent with the spirit of the rule.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:06 pmOn that, we agree.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:08 pmOf course, Aphrael is correct to point out the infraction. I denounce myself for not catching it.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:11 pmI apologize to you, DCSCA, for not defending your moral honor.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:12 pmGood scotch, in no way, improves my comments. Over and out.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:16 pmIn vino veritas , Felipe.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:29 pm@19. Senator Palin sounds mighty fine to me.
Meh. Sounds mighty fine to Tina Fey, too; yep, ‘you betcha.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:32 pmFor the past 15 or 20 years when the Supreme Court is 5-4 breaking to the Left the NYT and WaPo are all for it and cheer the outcomes.
Now that the shoe is on the other foot its the end of the world.
These people are bipolar and Graham is correct “Boy you all want power. I hope you never get it.”
Nevyan (ef4292) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:32 pmIt was fun watching Collins slap around Avenatti as if he were a particularly slow and clueless school bully who picked the wrong target. Go home and chase some ambulances, weasel. Your kung fu is no good here.
M Scott Eiland (b16b32) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:34 pmNevyan, out of curiosity, can you name the last year in which a majority of the justices on the supreme court were people who had been nominated by democratic presidents?
the answer might surprise you.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:35 pmIt was nice of Acosta to offer the “mentally deficient third-rate male model masquerading as a fifth-rate journalist” viewpoint. Where would we be without knowing that?
M Scott Eiland (b16b32) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:35 pmYou mean Fat Clooney’s take.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:37 pm@39. A first rate journalist would be busy ferreting out the financing behind the Wellspring Committee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:38 pmMurkowski… talking of impropriety in terms of high school and college years?
Wowzers.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:55 pmIs it really hysterical for liberals to believe that, with a conservative majority court (as differentiated from a republican-president-appointed majority court) for the first time in more than half a century, important precedents which judicial conservatives have opposed for decades will, in fact, be overturned? Especially given that conservative politicians have *campaigned on the issue of overturning them* for most of the intervening time?
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:58 pmIrony is nougat crunchy coronello.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:01 pmI once thought Murkowski had a certain je ne sais quoi about her, but I’ve now realized it may just be a case of perpetual constipation.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:02 pm43… to the extent that they use false allegations, bald-faced lies, deceit, uncivil behavior, threats of violence and other despicable acts to ruin lives and trash our civil society?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:06 pmthe answer might surprise you.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 4:35 pm
That means nothing. Kennedy got on the court only because Bork got borked by the Democrats. And, as a result of that, a justice without a paper trail, Souter, got on the bench — who turned out to be a lib.
Had the court actually been comprised of a Republican chosen majority, where the Dems rubber stamp the nominee as Republicans have rubber stamped Democrat nominees, the past 25 years would’ve been quite different.
Munroe (af1999) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:09 pmThis Linda Sarsour should be shunned by decent folk.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:09 pmIn response to this>> https://patterico.com/2018/10/05/susan-collins-michael-avenatti-and-the-vote/#comment-2157723
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:11 pm43… to the extent that they use false allegations, bald-faced lies, deceit, uncivil behavior, threats of violence and other despicable acts to ruin lives and trash our civil society?I remember saying “The night belongs to Michelob”.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:15 pmColonel, don’t feel bad, younger Murkowski would have been known as an investment, kinda like a young Winona Rider (now with the famous Emmy Award scrunchy face).
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:16 pmMurkowski owes the republicans zero. Winning on a write in ballot after the Alaska republicans dumped her says all you need to know about the Alaskan Republican Party.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:18 pmmg – Tonight, let it be (Kavanaugh). 🙂
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:19 pmI was waiting for that moment, mg:
http://youtu.be/wvCUwhlRvBc
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:21 pm@43. Meh. Just wait… once he’s safely sworn in, America is gonna fall in love w/this guy. Just get him in a black robe and turn him loose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hostgKc7qV4
‘Every Halloween the trees are full of underwear; every spring the toilets explode.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:23 pmAnd now comes a verrrrrrry convenient move…Murkowski to vote PRESENT so as to not force Daines to rush back to vote manana.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:26 pm“And the thing is, if he’d embraced who he was right up front, copped to something like, ‘yeah, I was a party animal back in the day and we did some stupid things……… “
Comedy Gold – Yeah right. It would have been wall-to-wall MSM screeching of “Kavanaugh equates sexual assault to acting stupid!!”
__ _
“…only the likes of Matt Damon can play him on TeeVee.
You mean the Matt Damon who said this about what his reaction would be if a woman accused him of sexual assault:
““it would be scorched-earth. I don’t care if it would cost me $10 million in court for 10 years, you are not taking my name from me, you are not taking my name and reputation from me, I’ve worked too hard for it, I’ve earned it, you can’t just blow me up like that.”
That Matt Damon? Sounds like he could have been a lot more realistic on SNL.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:27 pm@51. Lowenbrau is more preppy; goes down easy, comes up smooth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HarGoJgPtAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YgvKHipV0
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:27 pmHaiku, at 50:
Dana’s post includes a quote from Jim Acosta and refers to it in a way that implies that it’s hysterical.
I don’t think Acosta’s statement, that’s quoted here, is hysterical; i think it’s both entirely plausible that the decisions he’s referring to might be overturned, and think that overturning them is *precisely the point* for the politicians who ran on a make-the-court-conservative pledge.
It may not happen. Republican appointees have surprised us before. But this is the first time we’ve had five conservatives on the court in half a century; why wouldn’t the left *reasonably* expect the overturning of decisions like Roe, Griswold, Miranda, Lawrence, Boumediene, Gideon, and the like, all of which conservatives denounced when they were decided, and all of which have been used at different times as the *explicit justification* for why we should have conservative justices?
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:32 pm> so as to not force Daines to rush back to vote manana.
That’s a kindness on her part, although I don’t think it’s necessary; as I count it, if Daines doesn’t show up, the vote is 50-49 even if she votes no.
That said, I *do* think it’s incredibly rude to Daines for McConnell to schedule the vote for Saturday instead of Sunday. The one day of difference is irrelevant to the court.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:34 pm𝘚𝘵𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘑. 𝘋𝘶𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘦𝘭𝘥
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:38 pm@StevenJDuffield
Murkowski says we can’t expect people to put themselves forward to serve if these politics continue, but her vote is to reward those who created the toxicity here.
[don’t forget to check the photo]
Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke
Classic victory for the patriarchy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/1048299840969592834/photo/1
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:45 pm59, The Lowie Boys was a clique at the Catholic h.s. of last resort (St. Francis De Sales) in my southeast side Chicago neighborhood, the preppies went elsewhere.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:47 pmDCSCA’s comment at #13 — which I would not have read at all, but for your calling indirect attention to it, aphrael — is a vile, twisted bit of hatefulness directed towards Brett Kavanaugh’s daughters, from the same commenter who said my family should “swim for it” as they were threatened by risking flood waters during Hurricane Harvey.
Does my pointing that out violate the current blog standards?
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:49 pmIf his doesn’t, why should I respect this blog’s standards?
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:50 pmaphrael – The necessity is wholly dependant upon Manchin voting affirmatively. This way, Manchin’s vote is essentially a nullity.
I do not give Murkowski credit for this courtesy. Her betrayal is incredibly deep.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:50 pmIf you had written either of those things, aphrael, you and I would certainly no longer be friends. Are we?
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:51 pmat least we’re pretty much to where we have some modicum of closure on this rape hoax indignity
and Mitt Romney’s dirty little man Paul Ryan will be gone soon
and cowardly preening narcissist Jeff Flake too
these are all good things
plus we still have persimmons to look forward to … any day now
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/5/2018 @ 5:59 pmOn the merits:
Hysteria isn’t justified, nor would it have been if Kavanaugh’s confirmation had been refused by the Senate.
It’s entirely appropriate to predict and expect that his replacing Kennedy will indeed materially change the SCOTUS going forward. That might include overruling some precedents; others likely won’t be.
Griswold v. Connecticut is a prime example of a majority of the SCOTUS pretending the Constitution says something it doesn’t — that is, that it protects a personal right to receive and use condoms. I nevertheless doubt that a single Justice on the current court is willing to seriously reconsider it, much less overruling it. I cannot say that about Obergefell (gay marriage) or Roe/Casey (abortion on demand, except, perhaps (we don’t really know) very late term abortions). But neither am I certain, or even confident, they’ll be overruled.
If you believe that senators should vote against confirmation based on their assessment of the odds that a particular nominee will or won’t overrule a particular precedent, then you’re untroubled — or you should be — by the fact that Merrick Garland never got a hearing or an up-or-down vote, because there were enough GOP senators who have joined that point of view. That’s going to result, eventually in Senate confirmation votes becoming party-line rubber-stamps, and certainly the freak show the Dems have just engineered against Kavanaugh has wiped the scales away from most GOP eyes. I genuinely believe that henceforth, when the Senate is controlled by the party which does not control the WH, there will be no more SCOTUS confirmations, and quite possibly no more federal court appointments at all, confirmed.
I don’t believe that ought to be the standard, but neither do I believe that Republicans can ever again apply a more traditional and generous one, given the certainty that the Dems never again will. People say, “Well, nobody accused Gorsuch of sexual assault.” Which is true, but the Dems instantly announced their intention to filibuster his nomination anyway.
Comity is dead. Harry Reid killed it.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:01 pmnor would it have been if Kavanaugh’s confirmation had been refused by the Senate.
i don’t agree Mr. Beldar
letting a Mitt Romney-style rape hoax (and one with sleazy fbi fingerprints all over it) derail a supreme court nominee of Mr. Kavanaugh’s pedigree would have changed everything
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:04 pmDying is easy – Comity is hard
– not Keene
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:08 pmThis One.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:11 pmReid is, indeed, the murderer of comity.
Not a hijack attempt…I am very curious as to how an adoption of heightened and earlier government interest in protecting the life form growing within a woman is necessarily overturning Roe. The opinion itself recognized such a concept with the tri-mesters. Did it not?
Advances in neo-natal medicine have now pushed back/sped up (however you look at it) viability to 19 weeks. How would adopting a viability standard overturn Roe?
And for irony – is this not literally why the living and breathing Constitution crowd should support scientifically-based and sound changes?
While I am grateful for the nominative 5-4 conservative majority, there is still no way CJ Roberts allows a robust rollback. This is not the grand slam many are saying it is.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:17 pmTranscript of Sen. Susan Collins’ floor speech:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/why-susan-collins-voting-brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court/572341/?utm_medium=social&utm_term=2018-10-05T20%3A30%3A15&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook
Compare her informed views to the “vile, twisted bit of hatefulness” (also delusional, deranged and contemptible anger) directed toward Kavanaugh, his family and his supporters by some here.
Adults and children.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:24 pm@65. Pffft. Except it’s not.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:24 pmThe shot heard round the world will be Pryor occupying rbg’s chair.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:25 pmI salute you, felipe.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:28 pmMore evidence of aberrant behavior >> https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11382
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:31 pmaphrael, which Justices do you think are going to vote to overturn Gideon v. Wainwright?
Why did you leave out Brown v. Board?
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:32 pmLet me not make that (#80) personal. Which Justices do you think Democrats are justified in thinking might vote to overturn Gideon v. Wainwright, and are they likewise justified in thinking there are current Justices who’d overturn Brown v. Board?
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:33 pmSo you think boumedienne which reversed 200 years of law on unlawful combatants was rightly decided?
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:36 pm“
JudgesSenators are expected tobe even-handednot employ Chinese spies…”—- Senator Diane Feinstein
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:36 pm74… it’s just another step in the right direction, Ed.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:38 pmI wish Sen. Daines and his daughter and their entire family all the best.
There are tens of thousands of Americans, though, doing their duty tonight, in the uniforms of our country, in places like Kabul and Seoul and even Biloxi, MS, far from their families and all of the special moments they’re having. Some of them can’t wrangle passes for weddings. When Sen. Daines assured Sen. McConnell he’d be present to vote if need be, he recognized that duty might override a desire to be at even such a moment as a beloved daughter’s wedding. But I hope it works out that he can attend.
A week before I was married, I had to plead a continuance motion for the Monday after that Saturday, on grounds that I wanted to take a honeymoon. The judge looked at me sternly from the bench, and demanded: “Dyer, is this your first motion for continuance in this case?”
“Yes, sir, it is,” I reassured him.
“Dyer, is this your first wedding?”
“Scout’s honor, Judge.”
He winked: “Very well, Mr. Dyer. But don’t ever let me hear this same excuse from you in my court again!”
(Great, great judge; gave everyone an excellent, fair trial some weeks after my honeymoon.)
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:39 pmI salute you in return, Beldar; allow me the small boon of gushing over your return to commenting, here, at this site where you were sorely missed by many, who said as much, though perhaps not so frequently, but with sweet earnest that spoke well of their gentle condition.
Though I am late in saying this: Welcome back.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:41 pmHmmm… https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-05-at-21.30.24-600×349.png
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:42 pmHeh, beldar.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 6:47 pm@58. Don’t think so, harkin; can’t really go wrong ‘owning’ who you were and are. ‘To thine own self be true.’ The judge himself did so in his WSJ op-ed Thursday evening which worked very well in his favor w/any wavering senators. And having a youngish, handsome, Oscar winning actor such as Matt Damon portraying you on the TeeVee is a better look than an older, aging Dan Ackroyd. Wouldn’t dig into it so deeply. OTOH, digging into the financing behind the Wellspring Committee is long overdue.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:01 pmThis chapter will go down as “The Phony victim Play”.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:04 pmThe zinnspottinv college dropout who owed his career to Harvey Weinstein who peddled anti tracking propaganda churned out from Dubai film financing arm, anti war drek like valley of elah and that one Tom cruise chose poorly about.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:08 pm89 –
When moth specimens have been pegged so thoroughly they shake their legs.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:15 pmSusan Collins is a great American.
Paul Montagu (c7580b) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:18 pm92… Mothman Unprincipled?
89… never knew you were such a Matt Damon fan, DCSCA. You’re all Tiger Beat dreamy about him, what gives?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:20 pmSay it right coronello, Matt daamon, I admit the first bourne wasn’t half bad no relation to the novels.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:23 pmWas Team America really 14 years ago, narciso!?!? Time seems to pass so quickly as one gets older.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:25 pm@94. Meh. He’s ‘My Favorite Martian.’ 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:29 pmI’d just like to volunteer that my comment calling DCSCA a ‘die-hard deviant’ as contrasted with ‘ordinary decent degenerates’ was made with tongue firmly in cheek, as was my jokes about Washington brothels using “Merrick Garland” as the safe word. Obviously the people who confidently make outlandish and weird boasts about all the crazy sex they had at parties on political forums are more often the people who never had sex in the first place.
Fortunately, one of those is going to be on the Supreme Court tomorrow!
Pencil-necked Pundit (6a5413) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:32 pm@92. Seems he pegged himself well w/his op-ed, harkin; he’s ‘in like Flynn.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:32 pmHe was an athlete and a scholar, one thing for sure he wouldn’t have been within a passel of the dainty miss glassy, who probably couldn’t remember the time of day with in a,season in 1982
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:35 pm@98. FTR, DCSCA takes no offense at all to any comments. ‘Die-hard deviant’ and ‘ordinary descent degenerate’ would be badges of honor back in the day when beer was on tap, 24/7, green Iron City for St. Patrick’s Day was $45/keg w/deposit and the case-a-day-club was oh-so-much-easier to join.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:39 pmAs well as Mitch McConnell has played this so far, he missed a perfect opportunity at around 7:30 this morning. There was a crowd of protestors out in front of McConnel’s townhouse holding a kegger.
Mitch should’ve walked out in his boxers and wifebeater, cigarette dangling from his mouth, reached for the garden hose and and ordered him off his property.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:46 pmWell he enabled murkowski win in 2010, over how Miller (turns out he had a federal informant who was the one who arrested the two dispatch reporters) last time was up against grimes,
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:53 pmCheers, Col.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:55 pmAnd her gritting family, still narrowly saner than Ashley ‘crazy eye’s judd.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:57 pmSurfs up, Col.
mg (0a8fd4) — 10/5/2018 @ 7:58 pm@93
More likely, she got what she needed from Mitch.
Did you not hear hear full-throated defense of Feinstein?
Swamp, swamp, swamp, swamp music…
Matador (39e0cd) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:04 pmOmg. The “Tee Vee” crap again.
Simon Jester (93ec11) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:05 pm@90. FWIW, Haiku, I believe they’re both telling the truth as they recall it.
For Dr. Ford, the incident was a singular event so her memories are strong. For Bart, Mark and the other drinkers, it was likely just another of so many heavy drinking party encounters that has blacked out in the fog of time; just one more of so many long forgotten ‘parties’- nothing significant to them. Recall that ‘Rory Story’ from a few threads back; they can be blithering drunk, wide awake, fumbling about and totally forget everything the next day. Given their notoriously heavy drinking patterns, believe Bart and pals are telling the truth; they have no memory of any of it. And Dr. Ford’s memory what happened is just as strong. But the legal eagles here can show there’s no case here to be made against the judge w/what we’ve learned. No Polaroids, no video. But unlike Rory, two witnesses- myself and his wife- do remember, and she had the damp clothes to wash.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:08 pmWell the victrola, just be thankful he doesn’t mention the Dumont network.
I think Susan Collins did a noble thing, which is,rarely rewarded in her circles.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:08 pm@108. Yes, it is mostly that. It is a very promising medium; someday, we’ll get it right.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:10 pmI trust Ms. Collins would change her tune if it’s shown that Ms. Feinstein did leak the letter, because it would mean that Feinstein lied to Collins’ face.
Paul Montagu (c7580b) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:12 pmGiven that Feinstein sat on that letter until two down in the bottom of the ninth, that’s a one hell of a benefit-of-the-doubt.
Matador (39e0cd) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:15 pmCheers, mg!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:27 pm@DCSCA:For Dr. Ford, the incident was a singular event so her memories are strong. For Bart, Mark and the other drinkers, it was likely just another of so many heavy drinking party encounters that has blacked out in the fog of time; just one more of so many long forgotten ‘parties’- nothing significant to them.
Give the smears a rest, you keep upping them and they are boring, and ridiculous. First, you straw-man him by saying he pretended to be a “choir-boy” but we all read the transcripts and we know exactly what he said. Second, his college partying days, like most adults his age, are thirty years behind him. If everything you’ve been saying about him was true at one time, it hasn’t been now for decades.
Nonsense like this “Just get him in a black robe and turn him loose.”
At long last, have you no decency?
Nemo (60537c) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:30 pm@ Dana & DRJ: I’ve been thinking about our discussion from the other thread regarding distinctions between sexual assaults and assaults more generally. We ended with Dana having persuaded me to question my previous inclinations, which were that we ought not draw that distinction in our criminal laws (while nevertheless distinguishing between degrees of assault, with more severe punishments for more severe assaults in general).
I went back today to re-read, for the first time in some years, the provisions of the current Texas Penal Code, and more specifically, Title 5 thereof, “Offenses Against the Person.” (Earlier in the week, I’d had occasion to read Maryland’s, which are weird and, I gather, used to be even weirder.) I found some things today that made me go, “Hmmm,” and so I’ll share them here.
In Texas today, there is no crime called “rape.” I feel like I should have known that, even though my practice is almost entirely in the civil courts. (So that made me both go, “Hmmm,” and blush.)
Under current Texas law, the unconsented contact that Kavanaugh is alleged to have had with Ford would have been chargeable only as an assault — not a sexual assault, and not any sort of aggravated assault. Here’s the sexual assault definition (no minors involved) in section 22.011:
The acts alleged by Ford would, however, clearly have satisfied the general assault statute, section 22.01, and in particular, subsection (c) thereof:
Assault is a misdemeanor in Texas unless there’s an aggravating factor, in which case it becomes a felony. One such aggravating factor which fits what Ford described, is when the offense is accomplished by “impeding the normal breathing or circulation of the blood of the person by applying pressure to the person’s throat or neck or by blocking the person’s nose or mouth.”
But there’s no “tingly bits” aggravating factors. That the defendant’s offensive or provocative physical contact was with, or part of an attempt to get to, a tingly bit doesn’t put the contact into a different category of crimes. That the contact was with, say, clothing covering a female’s breast would certainly make it easier to prove that the defendant knew or should have known that the contact would be “offensive or provocative,” though.
The Texas Legislature tinkers with these two statutes (and their neighbors that cover aggravated assault and aggravated sexual assault, those basically involving deadly weapons or serious bodily injury) quite often, and I didn’t look up the legislative history to track the changes that got Texas to this current state of the law. But I’m pretty sure I’m okay, philosophically, with this treatment.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:31 pmDuring the last hearings, when Feinstein was denying having leaked either version of Ford’s letter to the media, she turned momentarily to ask one staffer, sitting behinder, to ask a question. The staffer shook her head vigorously; if she answered in whispers, I couldn’t make it out.
That Feinstein had to do that on TV during the hearing shows how diligently she’d investigated the possibility that a staffer from her office leaked. My guess is that her staff leaked to other Dems’ staffs, and that someone from one or more of them leaked to the press.
I don’t think Feinstein did it in person, but I think she’s responsible if her staff did it.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:41 pm*behind her
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:41 pmAnd now they say…potential wholesale defections by desperate incumbent Dems Donnelly, Heitcamp, McCaskill, and Tester being reported. Supposedly they caucused this evening.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:45 pm@115. Decency? Nemo, you’re tilting at windmills. Odd. We know what he said, the Fox interview was inserted i/t record as well. And we have a WSJ op-ed to boot. If you have a beef about ‘choirboy’ and ‘boy scout’ marketing take it up w/t JCN, their ad buys- financed by the Wellspring Committee, which financed the FS as well. If you can source their funding, let us know.
You do understand it doesn’t matter which conservative judge from the F/S list gets the slot. No dog in this hunt; well noted on many threads. Made pact w/t Devil voting for Trump to neuter the modern conservative movement. The trade off was t/courts. So far, so good.
Our Captain like to win. Next episode- blue wave. Watch him ride the tide; a win is a win for him, red or blue. Don’t be disappointed; he is not an ideologue.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 8:46 pmAnd when the blue wave has a,shallow trough will you stop paying attention to your fillings
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:07 pmI’ve only ever been to Alaska once, but I don’t think it’s that different from Texas, and this nonsense wouldn’t help her at all with Texas Republicans, but might indeed make things very much worse: Murkowski says she opposes Kavanaugh’s nomination, but will vote ‘present’:
Quin Hillyer proposed this pairing and purpose in a typically thoughtful and well-written post at NR earlier today, before Collins’ announcement: Lisa Murkowski Should ‘Pair No’ with Steve Daines’s ‘Paired Yes’. I’ll reprint here the comment I left there (NR’s comments are paywalled):
The ending of that parallels a comment I made earlier today here, if you’re keeping track.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:13 pmDon’t bank on it, narciso.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:14 pmDuty, wow fascinating word.
What next? Honor?
Bob (9af831) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:16 pmDCSCA seems upset.
Bob (9af831) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:16 pm@ Ed from SFV (#119): But … but … but … I’ve already contributed to all of their opponents!
Heh. I hope that report pans out — it would be a good thing if they flipped, not that it remotely begins to restore the damage done to the Kavanaugh family or the U.S. Senate — but I may contribute to each of their opponents again anyway.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:18 pmWell, “dyer” times call for “dyer” measures.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:27 pmThey do!
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:28 pm124 lets hope the democrats don’t do their “duty”
lany (241296) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:33 pmEd: When my father ran — and won! — the job of mayor of Lamesa, Texas, in 1958, his campaign slogan was “Dyer Will Do ‘Er!”
This, decades before #MeToo, was recognized as painfully corny even at the time, but the verb “to do” had not yet been converted into something with a sexual connotation, and the application of the contracted female pronoun “her” as a general reference to the Job To Be Done as Mayor was not considered sexist either.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:35 pm@125. Huh? Peculiar. What’s to be upset about; aside from Helsinki, events are going about as expected. Are you not entertained!? If our Captain survives Mueller and lays off the chocolate pie, he’ll get four more seasons.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:39 pmI think that the NY Times would have been OK with a SC with a 6-3 liberal majority, even if only two of those liberals had been appointed by Presidents who had a majority of the vote.
They’d be cheering now at the gutting of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th and 10th Amendments — they’d love to see an absolutely unfettered liberal Congress so long as it didn’t touch the Press right, which they consider absolute.
Kevin M (d6cbf1) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:39 pmDO tell.
That looks like hardscrabble country. Wow. I’ve driven through there on I-20 only once. (I HAD to stop at Permian HS to see the home of MoJo!)
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:40 pmBeldar, they could just delay the vote, with the F-35 flying east after the cake is cut. I suspect the Senator has missed countless family things due to his career. But not this one.
Kevin M (d6cbf1) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:43 pmHow I can tell that Dems from outside Texas have sent obscene amounts of money to Beto O’Rourke:
I just saw a Beto commercial. On Fox News.
But hey, every dollar that they send to Beto, they could have sent instead to some other Senate Dem who might actually have a chance, probably in a much cheaper media market where that money would go a lot farther on a per-voter basis.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:43 pm129 ‘124 lets hope the democrats don’t do their “duty” ‘
The Dems have been doing their doodie
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:44 pm… for the last several weeks, if not longer.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:45 pmI am surprised that Murkowski didn’t have some pork she wanted. God knows Alaska needs bridges.
Kevin M (d6cbf1) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:47 pmSorry, Beldar. I might miss my daughter’s wedding if the entire Supreme Court were locked in a bank vault with the air running out and my palm print was the only thing that could override the time-lock. But just to cast a vote on one Justice’s confirmation? No way. You need me there, reschedule the vote.
nk (dbc370) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:55 pmWasn’t that a segal film in 00s,
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/5/2018 @ 9:57 pmNR lays it all out very well.
“Dr. Ford’s conduct since coming forward has also been disturbing. When making a serious claim against another person, it is the obligation of the accuser to come forward with evidence. Instead, she has withheld evidence – including her complete therapists’ notes and the complete polygraph record. She has defied the Senate Judiciary Committee and refused to fully cooperate with its investigation. In a civil litigation context, the persistent refusal to hand over relevant evidence can lead to dismissal of a plaintiff’s claim. In this context, it should at the very least lead to a negative inference about the contents of the withheld evidence.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/kavanaugh-case-for-confirmation-allegations-explained/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:09 pmJust believe the woman, you Neanderthal!
nk (dbc370) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:10 pm@117 The exchange was more interesting than that. At first she says they wouldn’t leak it. The senator asking the question then asks if she has asked them and she’s says no. Then there’s an exchange where she says no they didn’t because she just asked them, even though it’s pretty clear she didn’t. Then she says her staff just told her she had already asked this before. She went from haven’t asked, to just asked, to had asked prior to the meeting in less than 30s.
https://youtu.be/JhqEGmcOCRw
The exchange is around the 3:00 minute mark.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:16 pmBTW, I read that Congressman Johnie Strong, the one who roughed up the annoying reporter, has put his private plane at Daines’s disposal.
Doesn’t it sound like a book series?
nk (dbc370) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:18 pmThe Daines Dilemma
The Daines Dearth
The Daines Disposal
The Daines Dispensation
Daines Day
@117 My guess at the time was that she shared it with other D’s on the committee. Maybe she didn’t consider that a leak. Then one of those leaked it, my guess is KH, based on the screen time she was grabbing at the time and some of her statements. DF walked back a little on the allegations at one point saying she couldn’t say whether she believed everything from Ford or maybe that she couldn’t verify it.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:24 pmWhat do establishment corporate democrat squishes like diane fienstein do now? her leftist opponent in november election is already calling for her scalp!
lany (241296) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:49 pmChe guevara de leon will make a fine senator from california.
lany (241296) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:52 pm“You do understand it doesn’t matter which conservative judge from the F/S list gets the slot. No dog in this hunt; well noted on many threads. Made pact w/t Devil voting for Trump to neuter the modern conservative movement. The trade off was t/courts. So far, so good.
Our Captain like to win. Next episode-blue wave.”
This temporary setback was all part of my master plan!
How interesting, DCSCA, your reasoning almost mirrors mine…I supported Trump in no small parts because he cut the most useless and ineffective organs of the conservative movement away from the conservative base to the point where they’d have to either shape up or ship out…and while I had hoped that the Lindsay Grahams would have seen the light enough to bring the heat a lot sooner, this whole Kegmeister Kavanaugh episode really accelerated the process of populist and martial awakening among the undecideds.
Meanwhile the DNC…is still a wholly owned subsidiary of the Hillary For President, Inc. committee and your people are being led by unaccountable trust-funded bearded podcasters and sinister dark money men who don’t get out enough to figure out when their marketing campaigns are having entirely the opposite effect than otherwise intended.
Of course, Feinstein’s Feiler Faster F***-up also threw a gigantic monkey wrench into the whole ‘blue wave’ business (as lying openly on television and then spending weeks either doubling down on “technically ‘I can’t recall’ doesn’t mean ‘refute'” or piling new lies upon the old tends to do) so you’re still only half-right, but .75ish out of two ain’t bad!
Pencil-necked Pundit (1783fa) — 10/5/2018 @ 10:55 pm149 alexandra ocasio-cortez is not owned by hillary inc. her opponent was! as de leon will be to fienstein.
lany (241296) — 10/5/2018 @ 11:01 pm@148 It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for them.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/5/2018 @ 11:09 pmAs am I. I don’t think the incident Ford described needs to be classified or treated as a sex crime but I believe there should be sexual assault laws. I thought your argument was that assault laws should be enough and we don’t need sexual assault laws.
I have a related experience with the assault law being used as a substitute for other, more fact specific charges. I was the victim in an aggravated assault claim involving a crash with serious bodily injury resulting from street racing. The prosecutor decided it was easier to prove aggravated assault than to prove the elements of the street racing law, so he charged it as aggravated assault. I have no problem with this, and I wouldn’t mind if a prosecutor made the same decision in a sexual assault case. But my guess is there is not always enough evidence to justify felony aggravated assault charges, and IMO a sexual assault justifies a felony charge even if there are no obvious serious bodily injuries.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:23 amAnd now comes a verrrrrrry convenient move…Murkowski to vote PRESENT so as to not force Daines to rush back to vote manana.
Not to brag or anything, but I called that here and elsewhere once I knew that Daines had the problem with his daughter’s wedding and that Murkowski had voted no. It’s not like any of the Democratic den of vipers infesting the Senate minority could be trusted not to engage in treachery on this subject if the opportunity arose.
M Scott Eiland (b16b32) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:40 am@149. We’re in the same ballpark of sorts. It was long past time for the Reagan-Goldwater hangers-on to be ‘contained.’ DRJ likes to pencil me in as a sort of Rockefeller Republican and that’s close enough for government work but most decidedly not a conservative ideologue. Much prefer pragmatists. Both these major parties are in serious need new blood from the current culture; younger leaders; more innovative, progressive; nimble and pragmatic thinkers for the 21st century. Case in point; was looking through an old issue of Life magazine from May, 1969. Flipped a page and there was an article featuring college commencement speeches from the ‘Class of 1969;’ the ‘future’ back then. One w/photo was from some Wellesley babe named Hillary Rodham. 49 years ago she was already 21 or so and barking. And now, nearly half a century later, her bark still echoes. It’s crazy; having a political class hanging on like this for so long isn’t healthy for the country. The Bush family; Pelosi, Biden, Schumer… old as dirt. The GOP contingent on the SJC- afraid to ask an adult women grown-up questions- highlight this as well. We’re nearly 20% into the 21st century. The country needs fresh faces to press ahead or the world is going simply shrug, move on and say, ‘thanks for the American century- you were great in your time, but your time has passed.’ It happened to the Brits a century ago; it can happen here, too.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:02 am^148. Typo.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:03 amyes yes Mr. Eiland called it
he saw this coming yes yes
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 5:38 amand if we’re predicting stuff i think the butt of every rape joke for at least the next ten years is gonna be our rape joke friend Christine Blasey Ford
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 5:48 amSorry to hear that. How bad were the injuries DRJ?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:10 amWho thought Graham and Collins had this resolve and feistiness in them? I sure did not.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:12 amI tink tey know tomting te media is twying to hide fwom us. Namewy tat te Wepubwicans will contwow te net Tenate by at weast 57-43.
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:17 amsusan collins doesn’t deserve any praise she let the rape hoax blossom and grow until she saw which way the wind is blowing
she did everything she could to prolong the gruesome rape torture for Mr. Kavanaugh and his family
she’s a trashy gross disgusting coward
and a sick sick sadist to boot
but the one thing to her credit
is how she completely stole the drama queen spotlight from sleazy overly-moist creeper jeff flake
he wanted so bad to be the starlet of the day but everyone just hates his creeper rape-hoaxing guts if they think of him at all, and susan gets the credit for that i think
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:17 amwell in this possum congress it’s what they can handle,
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/10/the-week-in-pictures-presidential-alert-edition.php
narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:24 am“@117 The exchange was more interesting than that. At first she [Feinstein] says they wouldn’t leak it. The senator asking the question then asks if she has asked them and she’s says no. Then there’s an exchange where she says no they didn’t because she just asked them, even though it’s pretty clear she didn’t. Then she says her staff just told her she had already asked this before. She went from haven’t asked, to just asked, to had asked prior to the meeting in less than 30s.”
She employed a Chinese spy for nearly two decades… I can see her playing the 3 questions game like Will Ferrel’s Mustafa character in Austin Powers with the spy and spilling teh beans on anything she knew.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:26 amYo wips to Gawd’s eyaws, nk
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:31 amAs much as they wanted to paint this as the White Old Republican Men’s last stand, I see it as the Democrats going down kicking and screaming. Last gasp. Scorched earth on their retreat to Siberia.
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 6:52 amWe got to clean our own stable, nk, but a sublet and an electric bill should do anywhere else. The surrounding big 10 might do its 8 year flips regardless of Kavanaugh.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 8:28 amDCSCA,
what Republican positions do you support?
NJRob (1d7532) — 10/6/2018 @ 8:32 amColonel,
she didn’t leak it. The Chinese spy did. See, she’s in the clear.
NJRob (1d7532) — 10/6/2018 @ 8:33 am153: “that’s close enough for government work”
Careful, ‘government work’ recently has meant smearing an innocent man with an impeccable record because he’s a conservative.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 8:59 am@ #122, “Video the wedding; put dad on an F-35A back to Montana as soon as he’s voted.”
The only problem with this is that the F-35A is a single-seat fighter…
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:00 am@#169:
@ #122, “Video the wedding; put dad on an F-35A back to Montana as soon as he’s voted.”
The only problem with this is that the F-35A is a single-seat fighter…
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:00 am
No prob. Hang him from one of the hardpoints. 🙂
ColoComment (8277f9) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:11 am@ #153: “The country needs fresh faces to press ahead or the world is going [to] simply shrug…”
I suppose Trump is a new face, right? With more seriousness, which country models the great progressive vision forward that will supersede the USA,…is it China?! There is something to be said for a balance of conservative and progressive ideas moving forward. Both sides are caught in ideological traps though…progressives are mired in identity politics….and an unaffordable socialism. Conservatives exaggerate the harms of gays, Muslims, and Mexicans. New faces do nothing if they peddle the same old ideas….or can’t shake us out of our current toxic political state. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is certainly a young attractive new comer….but what wisdom does she bring to the adult discussion? Are her ideas well grounded…or is she just another example of looks over substance? Old-as-dirt at least means that they may remember a time when politics was a bit more functional….and when the two sides could occasionally come together for the good of the country….and when everything wasn’t immediately played out as drama in the 24/7 news-entertainment cycle. George H W Bush was not a great President…but I was never embarrassed by him….and rarely thought that he was only speaking to half of the country. Is it wrong to want more of that?
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:19 am“Susan” teh _uckinghams
Susan, looks like they’re losin’
They’re losin’ their minds (losin’ their minds)
They’re wastin’ their time
Susan to them you are confusin’
They ask themselves why you’re sayin’ goodbye
You really brought ‘em low when you gave that speech
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:23 amYou know yer a peach
You know they’ll always be thinkin’ of you
Girl they’ll always hate you
Hate hate hate hate…
They hate you, yes they do, they do (2x)
Susan they hate you
“Conservatives exaggerate the harms of gays, Muslims, and Mexicans.“
That is a mischaracterization.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:29 amPretty bad but it was years ago, Haiku, although now I am not a street racing fan. Find a better place to enjoy speed.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:31 amkat calvin
@KatCalvinLA
Never let Collins have a moment of peace in public again.
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Dana Loesch
@DLoesch
Stalking and bullying people will not change their minds, but rather make your own stance look less reasonable.
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Duke Hedaya
@cruelintenshun
It’s amazing you are just simply not allowed to do or say what what you believe in if it contrasts the thought and desires of a lib. This from the self-professed party of peace, love, acceptance, and tolerance.
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Dean Moriarty
@Dean_Moriarty36
I bet she didn’t even watch the speech. If she did I bet she cannot give an intelligent response as to why she disagrees with Collins.
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Justin Byrd
@JustinByrd22
I think that’s a major reason she voted for him. She has been harassed for two weeks by the mob. It backfires because she can’t be intimidated like Flake.
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The real John Smith
@DustyInArizona
Liberals fight for women’s rights by attacking a woman?
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Sara Gonzales
@SaraGonzalesTX
Let them do it. They will pay at the polls.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:33 amThe driving habits of a sizable portion of our populace leave much to be desired, DRJ. The things you see… erratic driving at incredibly high speeds are remarkably moronic.
If I had a dollar for every unsafe, moronic move made by
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:40 amdriverschimps at the steering wheels of Scion tCs or fart-canned Honda Civics I could’ve retired years ago.174,but , that’s how it sounds to them but no matter, the black vote will be R again for the same 75-80 year span is it started R post emancipation, then D mid-FDR to Trum-ye.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:43 amWhat’s the the whitest most supremacist priviliged site on the list?
http://www.militarysunhelmets.com/
In honor of Melania visiting Africa and not shooting an elephant but wearing the wrong head gear.
https://www.panamahatsdirect.com/
https://www.rei.com/
Vote!
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:45 amWhen an FBI agent coaches a person into lying about sexual assault, it has to be illegal, correct?
mg (9e54f8) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:48 amAhem, paging the lost, incoherent Jeff Sessions, lame A.G.
Stopping this char
mg (9e54f8) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:57 amSnoozy McSnoozerson
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:58 amStopping this charade from happening again means jail time for Swetnick and Chi Feinstein and probably Ford. If not prosecuted this type of progressive judicial yoga will continue.
mg (9e54f8) — 10/6/2018 @ 9:59 am@ #173: “That is a mischaracterization.”
The GOP used to have a rational position on a pathway to citizenship….but now, not so much. The dial has been set to eleventy….and everyone must go back….and this has been driven by hard-core conservative circles. I favor aggressive border enforcement….an expanded guest worker program….and enforcing our current labor laws….but most people here illegally for 30 years are not rapists and welfare/tax cheats. The rhetoric does not match the reality.
I opposed the notion that the Constitution requires “gay marriage”….but the idea that gay marriage is somehow corrupting straight marriage is pretty silly….and it’s an exaggerated extrapolation from the Bible. Mind your own business….and help out all those straight marriages that end up in divorce. Clean our own houses.
Radical Muslims should be prevented from emigrating to the US. There is a radical sect that opposes us and modernity….but we have a President that floated ideas of banning ALL Muslim immigration and surveilling mosques…and many conservatives applauded this hard…and unprecedented…line. We need to be vigilant…but not paralyzed….and not buy into an exaggerated view of danger. We are being played by people who benefit from marketing this exaggerated fear.
Mischaracterization….I’m not so sure
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:03 amExcept after 32 years we know there will be no enforcement corporate and ideological factions make it So, what did the last amnesty yield. Labour policy was to import a new people and at least dilute the old one.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:09 amThere’s plenty of room between amnesty and send them all back.
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:12 amReturn them all, postage due.
mg (9e54f8) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:14 amA J, my problem with your comment isn’t your positions but that you blame conservatives for the positions you find problematic. I blame populism, not conservatism.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:15 amBlairite Labour policy is going to be far more stark in effect where the core population spread itself across the commonwealth and ritually sacrificed itself in the forests of northeastern France.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:24 amChristine Blasey Ford’s sister-in-law says she doesn’t think Manchin, Collins believe her sister
ya think sweetie?
too funny
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:36 am@ DRJ, who wrote (#151): “I thought your argument was that assault laws should be enough and we don’t need sexual assault laws.” You’re right; that was my argument; and you & Dana have talked me mostly out of it, for which I thank you both, and which adds to the vast regard I already had for you both. I’m sorry to hear that you were the victim of an assault, and I hope the prosecution obtained either a plea or a conviction that you felt was just.
@ AJ_Liberty, who wrote (#135): “The only problem with this is that the F-35A is a single-seat fighter…” Good point; I blush. I was assuming there was a trainer version (as was done with, e.g., the F-16B), but prompted by your comment, I’ve done enough googling to confirm that there apparently isn’t; they’re relying on simulators for training, although the Israelis are apparently interested in building a two-seat version for their own use, not for training but for a wizzo (weapons system operator, aka GIB for guy-in-back). My original thought had been to suggest that they use an even faster jet, the SR-71 Blackbird, but supposedly those are all “retired.” ColoComment’s solution (at #170, to hang him from one of the hardpoints) is an elegant one that perhaps might be embraced by a western-state senator in his efforts to be the best possible father to his daughter. In any event, I’m glad he’ll be able to be at the wedding.
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:38 am@171. Think longer term; Trump is merely a transient. Watch what emerges by 2025. So far it’s been a great show. Remember, in this era, Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained. But for example, if embarrassment is a factor w/you, [and I’m not advocating HRC at all] consider trying to explain to anyone overseas- the man or woman in the street- the mechanics of a ‘democracy’ where the majority vote loses. It doesn’t make peddling ‘American values’ any easier in the internet age.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:47 am@ DRJ: “you blame conservatives for the positions you find problematic. I blame populism”
Perhaps….Trump is certainly a Populist and not an ideological Conservative….but this then suggests that the true Conservative pull in this country….is rather thin and underwhelming….or alternatively that conservatives are so easily conned by populists. Certainly too many conservative commentators have taken the bait with regards to feeding the rage of the time instead of being more measured. I mean is not selling wedding cakes to gays really where we want conservatism?
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:55 am@191
Why would I even try? It seems more pragmatic to explain how, and why, a republic works. Then explain why a direct democracy doesn’t work.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:02 amWell he’s more a fusion candidate but he draemws more from the right than the left, on policy grounds, sentiment ways might be another story
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:02 am@193. … and Putin smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:04 amSo what left policy has he promulgated or even moderate ones on foreign as well as domestic
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:04 amI’m not that in love with conservativism. Freedom, liberty, and free association are things I’m willing to at least speak up for. If we’re to the point that the line is bakers being able to decide what sort cakes they can bake then yes, I can speak up against that.
Flipped around; If conservatism means telling bakers they can’t decide for themselves what to bake then it can go to hell.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:13 am@ DCSA: “Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained”
This is clearly true…but it does not explain how “new faces” don’t make the problem even worse. Sure, Mark Cuban would be a new political face….but does he have the wisdom, experience, and temperament to be a good leader? The problem is our country’s lack of genuine seriousness…and it looks to be the new normal until something momentous pulls us out of it.
“where the majority vote loses”
The concept of federalism is not all that mysterious….see Germany, Switzerland, Australia…the fact that we insist on a Presidential candidate winning a sufficient number of states…weighted roughly by population…is not some cause for concern. Running up the vote in an uncontested state…like California…or Texas….does not somehow grant greater legitimacy…it could simply be an artifact of where campaign funds are spent….and the impact of early polling results.
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:14 amNot a Democrat will be enough for me next month. That the Republican, and not some third party, will have the better chance, is really the default.
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:15 am@195 Is that supposed to be a burn? You might want to check your gaslight. It smells like the pilot light went out.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:16 amDCSCA… always on his Shetland pony high horse, giving Americans teh high hat…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:19 amThis is our system, now they might be wanting to transform into a new system.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:22 amIts like a broken victrola, coronello, of course Reagan who confronted the soviets on three frontiers.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:25 amSo the breathless reporting from WaPo and other Democrat house organs is that a “crowdfunding site” collected gazillions to fund Susan Collins’s future opponent in 2020. When it turns out to be a scam and no future opponent of Susan Collins will see a penny of it, I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
Meh, why wait? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:26 amI think we’ve learned that there aren’t many conservatives in the GOP, AJ, but conservatism works better than the alternatives so they some return … eventually.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:27 amlol and also lol
i can’t take alyssa seriously anymore
she’s such a big silly
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:30 am“Both these major parties are in serious need new blood from the current culture; younger leaders; more innovative, progressive; nimble and pragmatic thinkers for the 21st century.”
Spoiler alert: An entire political class from that generation has been made mostly useless due to….
1. A lower population of their children to begin with
2. The gutting and draining of higher education of both classic Western political inspiration and the population which would have likely produced the most civically-minded political class (small-town whites and rural rednecks with ‘The Right Stuff’ would immediately be placed in the round file by the ethnic pets of the political operative college admins)
3. The gutting and draining of America’s manufacturing base in favor of ‘tech’ means that an ever-smaller number of people in the current generational cohort have realistic experience with how a local and a global economy works (‘pay someone overseas to do it’ is not a long-term solution)
4. The importation of Third World helots and opportunists to cover for 1, 2, and 3.
Age has nothing to do with it, ingratitude and dereliction of age-old duties to their own country, their own parents, and their own children have everything to do with it.
“It’s crazy; having a political class hanging on like this for so long isn’t healthy for the country. The Bush family; Pelosi, Biden, Schumer… old as dirt.”
Trump took care of that for you, being the one high-profile Baby Boomer who actually ISN’T beholden to globalist influence and has constantly taken the interest of his particular country as seriously as he took the interests of his own tenants. A “thank you” would be appreciated (though not expected.)
“The GOP contingent on the SJC- afraid to ask an adult women grown-up questions- highlight this as well.”
Spare us the act. You know as well as anyone that the media narrative would be EVIL WHITE MALES BADGER WITNESS IN NEW TESTIMONY-RAPE, and letting the lawyer-chick lay legal mines sweetly and nicely turned out to work far more effaciously.
“We’re nearly 20% into the 21st century. The country needs fresh faces to press ahead or the world is going simply shrug, move on and say, ‘thanks for the American century- you were great in your time, but your time has passed.’”
Why are you acting like it’s principally the world’s opinion that matters, globalist? There are fresh faces all around you that for some reason no one wants to hire (too close, too smart, too likely to criticize you in a language you can understand, too likely to expect a wage that works for living in this country and not some Third World hellhole, ah, these expectations are too great!)
“It happened to the Brits a century ago; it can happen here, too.”
Imperialism never really worked out for us, learning that first, cutting our losses, and finding a new path is the first step toward sanity. We have a whole country far bigger than Britain that needs development and education far more direly than any overseas State Department projects.
And the world WILL wait for it, because the rest of the world is still worse off than we are.
Pencil-Necked Pundit (233458) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:32 am“The driving habits of a sizable portion of our populace leave much to be desired….”
The worst sample group (in this country anyways) I ever saw was the sailors and marines fresh off the boat back from Asia in the early 70s with their rice rockets.
I once saw a group of them on the Santa Ana Fwy, one of them wearing only shorts and flip-flops, standing on the seat, crouched over the handlebars doing about 110 mph.
There was so much injury and mayhem from these kids the services started holding rider safety classes.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:35 amPNP – 207
Nailed it.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:37 am@ #197: “If conservatism means telling bakers they can’t decide for themselves what to bake then it can go to hell”
Except that is exactly the argument that was used for “whites only” restaurants….and I believe that we have moved beyond the idea that Brown or the 1968 CRA were bad ideas…or that public accommodations should be allowed to indiscriminately discriminate. I don’t believe that ministers or photographers or wedding singers….should be forced to work at an event that they have ethical concerns about. Bakers shouldn’t be forced to decorate cakes with messages they find offensive…but if you advertise to the public that you sell wedding cakes….shouldn’t you sell the cake…and find some other way to protest gay marriage?
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:39 amBeldar, I would never write such things, but neither did I think the comment I objected to was reasonable.
I would consider us friends, yes.
aphrael (adce92) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:40 am“I want to thank the mob, because they’ve done the one thing we were having trouble doing, which was energizing our base.” – Mitch McConnell
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/mcconnell-calls-opposition-to-kavanaugh-a-great-political-gift-to-republicans/2018/10/06/761b8610-c988-11e8-9158-09630a6d8725_story.html?__twitter_impression=true
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:49 amThey are just trying to make a living, something almost impossible in the peoples republic, how about what was done to the sisters,of the poor, drive them nearly to bankruptcy with fines
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:51 amPNP proved A.J. right.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:54 amOne thing that is really annoying is how McConnell is being venerated as the greatest Leader in decades. What rot.
He is effective at forwarding his agendae. The problem is that his agendae is corporatist and safe – all in service to the retention of power.
But hey, if we want to argue MM is the best…explain how the ACA survived on “his” floor. Without Reid’s foolish arrogance, how many of DJT’s nominees do you think would be approved by now? Show me the immigration reform bill. Structural judicial reform?
He did a fine job with BK. Let’s see what he does with a renewed fire and passion from the GOP base heading into November. My guess? El Zilcho.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:55 amthis then suggests that the true Conservative pull in this country….is rather thin and underwhelming….or alternatively that conservatives are so easily conned by populists.
No, it’s that right now “the prevailing wind happens to be from Vichy”
Kevin M (d6cbf1) — 10/6/2018 @ 11:59 am“Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained”
Hanging them all from lampposts would be entertaining. Might even make a good game show.
Kevin M (d6cbf1) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:00 pmHe gets a mulligan, subject to review, even Arlen specter had a modicum of sense, in the Thomas hearing, then reverted.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:05 pmThe Republican Party was created to put down an agrarian revolt, remember?
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:07 pmHad to do a double take, but when hear i agrarian I think more of the Grange and the silverites behind william Jennings Bryan.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:18 pm@217. Or maybe a movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs
‘winter for Poland and France…’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:24 pmWhites only was a legal requirement imposed on individuals by the government using the same logic that if you could pass a law you could control free association. The “separate but equal” laws were unconstitutional for the same reason as these “required to accommodate” laws.
The first part is correct. The second part has the practical effect of forcing someone to make an accommodation they wouldn’t freely make.
No one is actually arguing for a return to Jim Crowe which seems to be the implication. But I don’t believe a privately held business is a public accommodation in the sense that I think you mean. Would you use this same logic to apply the 1st amendment to youtube and facebook? They hold themselves out as platforms for the free exchange of ideas.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:26 pmQue pasa, people, que pasa… HIT ME!!! https://youtu.be/G_UjA9_vYGY
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:27 pm“….but this then suggests that the true Conservative pull in this country….is rather thin and underwhelming….or alternatively that conservatives are so easily conned by populists.”
It can also suggest that the alternative is a candidate so dishonest, corrupt and despicable while being cheered on by a corrupt and clueless media, that they go with the lesser of two evils.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:35 pm@207. Age matters; Trump is a transient; globalism is inevitable.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:35 pmwtf is mitch wearing he looks like a muppet
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:36 pm@ #190: ” ColoComment’s solution (at #170, to hang him from one of the hardpoints) is an elegant one that perhaps might be embraced by a western-state senator in his efforts to be the best possible father to his daughter”
I thought so too until I saw that the range of F-35A was 1,379 miles….and the distance from rural Montana to DC is over 1,600 miles as the crow flies. I suppose they can launch him…or what’s left of him… the remaining ~200-some miles. Why is there no such thing as proxy voting…or voting early….or voting via phone? This is a tad ridiculous.
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:36 pm@210. Absorbing the ‘Religious Right’ was the poison pill; Jerry Falwell’s legacy; outrage over baking gay cakes.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:39 pm@226. ROFLMAO- he does. Shakin’ off that turtle look, Mr. Feet.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:41 pmHow about, “The Sergeant-at-Arms will CLEAR the gallery.”?
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:45 pm223, Haiku…the real question a month from now is who gets sing this 1973 hit from the same artist.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:46 pmThe funny thing is Heart of Atlanta used the commerce clause to apply the CRA. One of a line of cases where the commerce clause was inverted to allow the federal government to reach any activity. Something Thomas has argued against.
I think Thomas has argued that we should unwind all of the commerce clause stuff back to pre Wickard v Filburn.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:46 pm@230. … and Putin smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:48 pmThese are ostensibly adults acting out.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:49 pmMr. seargent at arms needs to take a lil more initiative i think
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:49 pmoh my goodness
Mitt Romney’s number one special boy Doug Jones voted AGAINST Kavanaugh
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:50 pm234) facts not in evidence coronello.
Narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:50 pmThe spawn of an unholy coupling between Chairman Mao and George Soros
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:52 pm@120
… and Putin smiled.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:53 pm@ #222: “But I don’t believe a privately held business is a public accommodation in the sense that I think you mean.”
I’m using the legal sense of the word….so public or private-owned facilities open to the public that offer a certain class of goods or services to the public…including food, lodging, gas, and entertainment. There are obviously rules that establishments can enforce to restrict service…from a health and public safety perspective….but it can’t be using one of the discrimination means identified by law….race, sex, age, etc. We can equivocate about whether gay marriage is proxy for discriminating against gays in Colorado…but the intent, IMO, is pretty clear.
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:53 pmYes!!!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:54 pmI am elated that Hoosier Values Joe voted, “Nay.” C ya.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:54 pmNow if it was Wm. Pryor…that would suck more, no homestate discount.
I’m bouncing from parking lot to parking lot…they using Obrador at Calderon swear-in 2006 tactics?
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:55 pmJoe Donn’s confident fat J.B. can spare some busloads, unlike 2 county Pat Quinn.
urbanleftbehind (61ee40) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:56 pmHeart of Atlanta was a motel. Clearly a public accommodation as it has always (or for a thousand years) been defined in the law. It’s not the federal laws that are the problem. It’s the state and local laws which define everything as a public accommodation that are the problem.
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:57 pmnobody’s dancin
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:59 pmFun to see various GOP Senators come up to Mitch with the congratulatory handshake as if he were Michael Corleone.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 12:59 pm@239. Indeed; the camera loves him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoNeYD0GWw
“Smokin’!’ – Stanley Ipkiss [Jim Carrey] ‘The Mask’ 1994
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:03 pm50-48, 1 voting present, 1 absent.
#scoreboard
M Scott Eiland (b16b32) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:04 pmI tawt I taw a Tumpweme Cowt Tatit. I did, I did taw a Tumpweme Cowt Tatit.
Now we have the “most conservative Supreme Court ever” according to the CBS reporterette objectively and unbiasedly reporting on the vote. Those people!
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:06 pmMitt Romney’s number one special boy Doug Jones voted AGAINST Kavanaugh
He’ll be paired up in an MSNBC show with Heitkamp after he gets wiped out in the 2020 election. #sinecure
M Scott Eiland (b16b32) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:06 pmPretty glum looking protesters… and that pleases me greatly… it’s a terrible thing…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:06 pmMeh. ‘Miller time,’ Bart. Lifetime gig, good salary, nice pension– and now in, beholden to nobody.
Party on, big fella.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:08 pmurbanleftbehind, now that it’s all over but the shouting, I can tell you: I would have preferred for Van Dyke to have been acquitted in exchange for Kavanaugh being turned down.
nk (dbc370) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:09 pmMo Alienbee is a selective appallee
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:10 pmIt is now the Roberts court.
Prepare for some bitter disappointments.
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:20 pmkaveaugh wins establishment democrats in senate say thank you sir may I have another. democrats base say you establishment corporate squishes are finished! they will now vote for leftys that will make ocasio-cortez look like a moderate. fortunately democrat party is against second amendment solutions for the time being.
lany (f97d8d) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:21 pm“they will now vote for leftys that will make ocasio-cortez look like a moderate.”
But will they make her look smart or informed?
“fortunately democrat party is against second amendment solutions for the time being.
Wise up, if it gets to the Lefties shooting people the 2nd Amendment will be the first thing gunned down. It’s a lot easier for the truth squads to liquidate the dissenters if they’re disarmed.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:30 pm“Party on, big fella.”
He’s wagging it in your face…….relax, it’s only his finger.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:32 pm@259. Meh. ‘Never happened.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:38 pm@ AJ_Liberty: You forget, they do air-to-air refueling, making the range of our military jets effectively worldwide. My best friend from college flew KC-135s; the high-point of his career was as a tanker for the F-111s that struck Libya when France refused Reagan’s request for overflight rights. The senator wouldn’t have had a very good view of it, though, from down on a hard point. 😉
Beldar (fa637a) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:41 pm@256. Yep. He’s swopped ends a time or two. They may have ideologies but the good ones likely leave any partisanship in the locker room before robing up and taking the field. Honestly believe once they’re on the bench and the chaff settles, they want to do what they chose to do in life- law.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:42 pm“Meh. ‘Never happened.’”
Exactly – move on to the next fake outrage.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:45 pmDoes anyone know if a SCOTUS Justice merits Secret Service protection under SS protocols? Is BK under such protection now? Will he be on his trip to the SCOTUS to be sworn tonight? Thereafter?
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:48 pmDemocrats can’t get at kavenaugh ;but republican candidates knocking on doors better be careful. Over at du and jackass radicals they are going crazy! One woman says if a republican candidate knocks on her door she plans to greet him with a large butcher knife!
lany (f97d8d) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:48 pm“ One woman says if a republican candidate knocks on her door she plans to greet him with a large butcher knife!”
That’s the spirit!
Walk tall lany, you rep the side of peace and tolerance.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:52 pm@264. Google it. They fall under the protection of the Supreme Court Police Protective Services Unit. They’ve got their own ‘police force’ – your tax dollars at work.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:52 pmFloat OnRage OnLeo, Taurus, Sagittarius, Feces
Obama, Marx, Engels, Harris
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Leo, Taurus, Sagittarius, Feces
Obama, Marx, Engels, Harris
Leo and my name is Barry
Now I like a voter who loves her government
And I like a voter who will toe the line
And if you fit that description, baby, come with me
Take my hand
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Taurus and my name is Karl
Now I like a woman that’s quiet
A woman who doesn’t care that I’m dead
A woman who could take me in her arms
And say, Karl, yeah, you dead
And if you fit that description
This is for you especially
Mmm, take my hand
Come with me, baby, to Rage Land
Let me show you how sweet it could be
Don’t squeeze tight, watch the knee, I want you to
Rage, rage on
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 1:53 pmRage on, rage on
Rage, rage, rage on
Rage on, rage on
@263. “High drama”… are you not entertained?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:00 pm“Rage, rage on”
The rage is palpable.
My neighbor, a nice and normally sane woman (govt worker), thinks the world is about to end because of the confirmation.
I asked her to read Collins’ speech and tell me why she should not have voted to confirm and all she could come up with was the rape parties…….
This really was like a National IQ test.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:01 pm266 not any more! democrats say no more mr. nice guy. they are now actually making threats at du and jackass radicals.com I am just reporting what is happening. problem with that?
lany (f97d8d) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:02 pmDr. Blasey Ford won’t be filing a police report… she is so disheartened and being charged with filing a false report would be even more so…
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/06/no-police-report-then-christine-blasey-ford-will-not-pursue-her-allegations-any-further/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:05 pm“266 not any more! democrats say no more mr. nice guy. they are now actually making threats at du and jackass radicals.com I am just reporting what is happening…… “
So trying to hound people out of their bakery business over a cake design, screeching at people while they try and eat at a restaurant and oh yeah shooting up a Republican softball game…..those days of Lefty Nice are over?
“….problem with that?”
Try that line again but maybe in a Travis Bickle voice.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:15 pm“jackass radicals.com”
If the shoe fits…….
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:16 pm@265
How will she know before she answers the door? Are you going to suggest she be on the safe side and always answer the door with a butcher knife? There’s also the practical question of whether a butcher knife is better than a machete. If you suggest machete make sure she knows you mean the weapon and not the movie. Although answering the door and giving away copies of Machete would be a good thing. Danny Trejo is a treasure.
frosty48 (6226c1) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:17 pmMeh. Scroll back through the comments on this thread- the angriest are from self-described conservatives–and they won the day!! It’s hilarious; comedy gold: ‘We won! And so’s your mother!’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:19 pmLike what? The angriest comment seems to be Beldar at you.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:23 pm“Scroll back through the comments on this thread- the angriest are from self-described conservatives”
They never fail to employ projection when faced with their own craziness.
The people who think Kavanaugh had too much anger and the wrong temperament are ready to greet people with a butcher knife in order to prove it.
harkin (f2bc98) — 10/6/2018 @ 2:26 pm“Age matters; Trump is a transient; globalism is inevitable.”
Dodging the question with platitudes again, I see.
Back in the real world, Trump is the youngest and most cross-generationally communicative old man we’ve ever had in the office, “transients”(aka ‘globalists’) ditch their countries for their overseas homes and finances instead of building towers, landmarks and ice rinks in their home town(let alone running for public office,) and globalism is only as inevitable as the leaders of any sovereign nation decide it is.
Wake up and smell the ashes, the great bonfire of the “International Order” is just getting started.
Pencil-Necked Pundit (89aaaf) — 10/6/2018 @ 3:03 pmAlso important: Jonathan Haidt has an excellent graph that proves that yes, the Left both started and escalated the Partisan Hate Wars, with the hate on the Republican side only rising as a lagging indicator and response to that escalation:
https://twitter.com/JonHaidt/status/1048543186896003072
Today was a victory, but the war the Left started is far from over.
Pencil-Necked Pundit (8fd6c0) — 10/6/2018 @ 3:05 pmheh, that’s a crazy path, Weinstein has led Robert rodriguez along, the sequel collapsed of it’s own absurdity, mel Gibson as a space obsessed weapons manufacturer who had his own working landspeeders
narciso (d1f714) — 10/6/2018 @ 3:22 pm@279. “The real world,” PNP:
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/resources/15869/one-special-day-in-the-life-of-planet-earth-close-up/
‘It’s a small world, after all…’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/6/2018 @ 3:35 pmIt’s pretty upsetting that the Alaska senator voted no–we should just start the national campaign to fund her primary challenger now–I don’t know why she pretends to be a Republican anymore. And I can’t stand that she based her decision on having high principles and expectations for a judge–as if the other senators didn’t have have them.
Rochf (877dba) — 10/6/2018 @ 4:32 pm@ #232, I do agree that Wickard led to the destruction of “local commerce” and federalization of every activity that has some actual or imagined connection to commerce….including the growing of 5 pot plants in one’s backyard for personal use (Raich). We can certainly agree that the substantial affects doctrine seriously distorted the economic regulatory power balance between feds and states. I’m just not sure if that genie can ever fit back in the bottle…Morrison, Lopez, and NFIB (weakly) are really attempts to say, this far and no farther. I would be surprised if there is a large doctrinal change in our lifetimes because of the collateral effect.
But also remember, Masterpiece Cakeshop was not a commerce clause case….it was a state law that was being challenged on 1A principles, either artistic speech or religious freedom. The police power of states gives them authority to write and enforce anti-discrimination laws. I’m just not convinced that decorating commercial wedding cakes….is any different than styling someone’s hair, crafting custom wedding announcements, or creating wedding rings….so the slope is a little too steep for me.
Beldar, I foolishly forgot about mid-air refueling…thanks for the correction!
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 10/6/2018 @ 7:01 pmIran backs the #metoo movement.
mg (f0a1d2) — 10/6/2018 @ 7:08 pmSo will the NYT run an op-ed suggesting that 17 year olds should be tried as adults?
Marina (9989e5) — 10/6/2018 @ 10:05 pmThe Supremes control climate? Can we lobby for a white Christmas?
Marina (9989e5) — 10/7/2018 @ 9:41 am