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9/14/2018

New York Times Misleads Readers … About Nikki Haley’s Curtains (UPDATE ADDED)

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:47 am

[guest post by Dana]

In New York Times , this breathless insinuation appears on the Politics page:

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Here are the first 5 paragraphs of the Oh-My-Gosh-She-Didn’t! report:

The State Department spent $52,701 last year buying customized and mechanized curtains for the picture windows in Nikki R. Haley’s official residence as ambassador to the United Nations, just as the department was undergoing deep budget cuts and had frozen hiring.

The residence, in a new building on First Avenue, has spectacular views, and Ms. Haley is the first ambassador to live in it. For decades, her predecessors lived in the Waldorf Astoria hotel. But after the hotel was purchased by a Chinese insurance company with a murky ownership structure, the State Department decided in 2016 to find a new home for its top New York diplomat because of security concerns.

The government leased the apartment, just blocks from the delegation’s offices, with an option to buy, according to Patrick Kennedy, the top management official at the State Department during the Obama administration. The full-floor penthouse, with handsome hardwood floors covering large open spaces stretching nearly 6,000 square feet, was listed at $58,000 a month.

While ambassadors around the world are given residences, there are only two such residences in the United States — one for Ms. Haley and the other for her deputy.

Ms. Haley’s residence is particularly grand since it is used for official entertaining. But her deputy’s is also very nice, having served as the location for Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s intimate steak dinner in May with Kim Yong-chol, North Korea’s top nuclear weapons negotiator. During the dinner, Mr. Pompeo used its sweeping views to point out various features of New York City’s skyline to the senior official from the world’s most reclusive country.

Pretty unbelievable, right? Who does she think she is? Isn’t this just typical of the flashy, brassy, best-of-everything Trump?

But, buried down in the sixth paragraph, we find this nugget:

A spokesman for Ms. Haley said plans to buy the curtains were made in 2016, during the Obama administration. Ms. Haley had no say in the purchase, he said.

Ah, you don’t say! (As a reminder, NYT, Haley did not assume office as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations until January 27, 2017. Just saying…)

So how are the media elites framing the story? Just how you would expect them to:

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And from one of the left’s newest, bright lights:

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(Notice the number of retweets.)

It’s almost like the NYT wants readers to believe that only in the “Trump-era diplomatic front” of lavish excesses does an ambassadors dwell in such sumptuous surroundings.

Dishonest hacks.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

UPDATE: Facing criticism, an editors’ note has been appended to this story:

An earlier version of this article and headline created an unfair impression about who was responsible for the purchase in question. While Nikki R. Haley is the current ambassador to the United Nations, the decision on leasing the ambassador’s residence and purchasing the curtains was made during the Obama administration, according to current and former officials. The article should not have focused on Ms. Haley, nor should a picture of her have been used. The article and headline have now been edited to reflect those concerns, and the picture has been removed.

–Dana

257 Responses to “New York Times Misleads Readers … About Nikki Haley’s Curtains (UPDATE ADDED)”

  1. I wish the NYT would just try harder.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Related:

    “I wish I could find legal standing to bring a case against Donald Trump for the lives that will be lost and the property that will be damaged and the billions of dollars because of his decision on climate change. This is life and death. Our democracy matters that much,”John Kerry, owner of five luxury homes, a 76-foot yacht, an SUV, and a private jet

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/kerry-would-sue-trump-for-the-lives-that-will-be-lost-due-to-climate-change/

    harkin (7f4688)

  3. The only reason the NYT is still in business is because it told a lie the Warren Court liked (about a Southern prosecutor in the desegregation era) and the Court changed the defamation rules for it. It is no more accurate or honest in its “reporting” than the National Enquirer. If it ever publishes a story fairly and accurate, it is by accident. What it mainly is is a network for New York’s liberal intelligentsia. But I love its Sunday crossword puzzle.

    nk (dbc370)

  4. Hogg has kept his infantile tweet up but he’s getting pwned in the responses.

    EducatédHillbilly™
    @RobProvince
    @davidhogg111
    Those were purchased by Samatha Powers under the Obama administration in 2016.

    Next time read the article kid.
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    Tony Swanson
    @TonySwanson
    Facts and logic aren’t high on young Hogg’s priority list.
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    Neither is walking into a fitness center
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    Tim Stoesz
    @StoeszTim
    Did you just assume he can read and comprehend?
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    harkin (7f4688)

  5. I wish the NYT would just try harder.

    At what — being hacks? Well, maybe they haven’t attained Walter Duranty levels yet, but seriously, that’s really hard to get everyone to sustain that level.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  6. And my apologies for contributing to the demise of your previous post, Dana. I’ll try to restrain my gallows humor in the future. Which it was, gallows humor. I was not wishing the poor nebish dead.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. All the NY unions involved in designing, manufacturing and installing the curtains must kick back to the Democrat Party. This was a bargain.

    AZ Bob (885937)

  8. …and the FAKE NEWS narrative keeps on trucking. THEY. CAN’T. STOP. GIVING. TRUMP. THIS. NARRATIVE.

    Will any media types honestly hold up a mirror and assess how much they’ve destroyed their credibility?

    In span of 10 years – the media lobs softball enchanted questions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nyaNOA6FWI) to the Obama tenures for 8 years, only to lose their minds during the Trump era.

    The irony here is that, Trump’s staying power is largely how the media treats him.

    …and folks wonder why the public at large don’t take the media seriously.

    whembly (b9d411)

  9. ………only to lose their minds during the Trump era.

    The list of people who have lost their minds (aka TDS) over the Trump era grows daily

    The Babylon Bee (satire) had a great take on it which seems more factual than the recent NYTimes:

    Democrats Threaten To Abandon Final Shred Of Sanity If Kavanaugh Confirmed

    “U.S.—Democrats across the nation have threatened that they will abandon their final remaining shred of sanity should the Republican-controlled Senate vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court in the next few weeks.

    From Democratic senators to lay voters, liberal-leaning citizens have promised they will begin their wacky antics in earnest should the inevitable confirmation occur.

    “I know it seems like we’re already totally nuts,” said Senator Cory Booker. “But believe you me—you ain’t seen nothing yet. We’re talking rending our garments and smashing stuff, constantly comparing ourselves to tragic martyrs on film and television, even punching ourselves in the face. And we’ll do it around the clock.””

    harkin (7f4688)

  10. what kind of low-self-esteem douchebag has a twitter account anyway

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. At this point, one must conclude that this is dishonesty, not hackery.

    One of my favorite lines from a case in law school was by then New York Chief Judge Benjamin Cardozo: “[N]egligence or blindness, even when not equivalent to fraud, is none the less evidence to sustain an inference of fraud. At least this is so if the negligence is gross.” Ultramares v. Touche, 174 N.E. 441, 255 N.Y. 170, 190-91 (1931).

    When an otherwise intelligent and competent person acts like a nincompoop, a fair inference is that he is really a fraud. The NY Times knows what it is doing. It is smearing Hailey, and then burying the real facts in the details.

    Bored Lawyer (998177)

  12. it’s important to remember that just because the sleazy KKK Asian Lady New York Times riles up a bunch of dirty twittertrash it doesn’t mean there’s really a story there

    this is just noise without signal

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. No @ 6,

    Thank you for that. Appreciate it.

    Pertinent to this post, one might assume that the Obama administration was readying the luxurious residence, curtains included it, for a Hillary appointee.

    Dana (023079)

  14. This is a good heads-up to conservatives from the Liberal Establishment, and it means that they view Nikki Haley as a viable threat to their desire for a Democrat in the White House. Ms. Haley should not only publicly belittle the Times for their bias in what should’ve been a non-story, but also take it as a badge of honor.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  15. #11 — I tend to equate hackery with dishonesty. (I don’t think anyone would say Duranty was attempting to be honest with his reports on the well-fed worker’s paradise in the Ukraine).

    Appalled (c9622b)

  16. So the Left is:

    a. clueless
    b. disingenuous
    c. misguided
    d. malevolent
    e. all of the above

    In other news, dog bites man…

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  17. Where are these “starving children in America” I keep hearing about? I’ve worked with the homeless and I’ve worked food banks. Never saw one person who I would say was “starving”. In fact, most could have stood to loose a few pounds. Well, the ones at the food banks. The homeless are mostly skinny but they are adults. But none would I say were “starving”. Please show me one starving American child and the adult responsible for him/her. If it’s happening at all it’s due to malfeasance or mental instability on the part of the adult.

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  18. 4… cut a dumbass, pencil-neck hogg…

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  19. The Times got this right. Trump campaigned on a promise to cut a lot of this spending, and that’s a broken promise. This story is a great example.

    This ‘the other party did it, and I had no say’ excuse is what both political parties use to justify the endless spending. Obviously renovations planned during the Obama administration, scheduled during the Trump one, can easily be cancelled. Hell, the penthouse can be cancelled. There’s not much reason for a $600k per year penthouse.

    What the NYT should be saying is that both administrations similarly do not care about balancing the budget, and both of them lavishly treat themselves to stuff that is absurd and worth public ridicule. Instead, we have the NYT trying to frame the GOP BS, and conservatives trying to frame Democrat BS, and each side’s loyalists deflecting everything in the same manner.

    And the people lose every time.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  20. The Times got this right”.

    Comedy gold.

    The best response I’ve seen so far (paraphrasing).

    ‘The Times is trying out a new type of all-in-one journalism, put the smear in the headline and the correction in the eighth paragraph’

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  21. OT Breaking: How does our orange President feel abut wearing orange? Manafort agrees to a “plea deal that includes his cooperation as a potential witness for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.”

    Another singer for the Muller’s choir.

    Tillman (61f3c8)

  22. The NYT would have done the exact same thing if Haley were working under President Rubio or President Cruz. And Citizen Trump would then most likely be joining in the chorus condemning the Republican administration because he thought it would make him look good and a rival look bad.

    Radegunda (07ace3)

  23. 21… harkin has it right, but gosh, I wish he was wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  24. * ^ Another singer for Mueller’s choir.

    Tillman (61f3c8)

  25. 22… “show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”… Mueller and Beria have this in common.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  26. Dustin,

    I agree that the public should know how our money is being spent or wasted, so that is good. But I don’t think this was something Trump or Haley could have done anything about. The curtains were ordered by the Obama Administration and they probably made a down-payment on the order. And the curtains were installed starting in March 2017, so canceling at that point would have saved nothing because the expense had been incurred and the vendor was entitled to be paid.

    The Times could have written this as an Obama-Clinton expose but it didn’t. IMO this is gotcha journalism.

    DRJ (15874d)

  27. I think Radegunda 23 is right, too.

    DRJ (15874d)

  28. #20, the GOP has now essentially stopped even pretending to care much about the debt, partly because that’s what they tend to do when they actually hold power, and partly because Trump doesn’t really care about it. (When he claimed that he could eliminate it in eight years with better trade deals, and then soon lied about what he had said, he demonstrated his complete unseriousness about it.)

    There are Trump apologists who believe that his unconcern about the problem of unfunded entitlements (“He won’t touch Social Security!”) makes him morally superior to the Republicans who have at least given some thought to how a more sustainable system might be designed.

    Radegunda (07ace3)

  29. But I don’t think this was something Trump or Haley could have done anything about.

    I can cancel an order from Amazon. The President of the United States can’t cancel some curtains? He can’t end a $600k per year penthouse lease?

    I respectfully disagree. You’re certainly right that there were sunk costs, and some aspects can’t be undone, but the Trump administration has continued full steam ahead on this absurd waste of money. They are 100% accountable for that.

    We agree the NYT shouldn’t frame this as a partisan. Trump is worse than Obama on spending, that’s objectively clear, but both of them spent a sum that should be publicly ridiculed. It is so easy for each party to use the previous party as an excuse. We see this regarding amounts of spending dwarfing this apartment. That needs to stop.

    Haley should sell the drapes and clear out of the apartment. In fact, she shouldn’t get a free apartment in New York City. I imagine she gets a paycheck.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  30. Trump promised to balance the budget by now. He failed. And each example is responded to with either a dismissive laugh, or pointing out the democrats did it too, marginally worse or better. The democrats didn’t promise to drastically cut spending. Trump did. When you break a promise that’s worse.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  31. Like Palin’s wardrobe, that she dutifully returned at the end of the campaign, but Maura bray who was promoted to aide to rand Paul and Scalise insisted she kept.

    Narciso (6eda9f)

  32. 26. Colonel Haiku (3287d7) — 9/14/2018 @ 8:59 am

    “show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”… Mueller and Beria have this in common.`

    Beria =did that with torture. there;s no comparison.

    What d you think aboiut the way they are finding “criems’ with Judge KAvanaugh. The latest is an accusation of some form of sexual misconduct (it’s all confidential including the name of the accuser, if she is indeed an accuser) while he was in high school.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  33. The place is more than a pied de terre for Hailey. It is the official residence of the Ambassador to the UN, the second most important post in the State Department, in the home city of the UN, where she receives and entertains foreign ambassadors, ministers, and other dignitaries. It has to be nice. We’re not the Soviet Union and we have no reason to poor-mouth about such “decadent, capitalist luxuries”.

    nk (dbc370)

  34. President Trump cut off enough funding to the dirty filthy Palestinians to buy enough curtains to block out the whole sun to where you wouldn’t even know it was daytime

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. A spokesman for Ms. Haley said plans to buy the curtains were made in 2016, during the Obama administration. Ms. Haley had no say in the purchase, he said.

    Because, as usual, it is about her.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  36. These were custom special-order drapes. Typically buyers sign a contract for custom special-order items like this to prevent customers from canceling the orders after they are started, specifically because they can’t be sold off the shelf. If so, and I would bet money there was a contract required by the vendor and the government, then the full fee was due whether or not the government took delivery.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. The space has to be measured, repeatedly, and the drapes made — along with the hardware and software for opening and closing them. This is not something you buy at Amazon or even a high-end department store.

    DRJ (15874d)

  38. As for kids starving in America, I have the word of the Chief Judge of the Cook County Criminal Court that there are kids in Chicago whose only meals are the free school breakfast and lunch. Because their parents trade the food EBT food stamps and cash for drugs, alcohol and partying. Not because they don’t get enough assistance from the government (except maybe for not taking them away from those parents).

    nk (dbc370)

  39. a lot of kids are super-fat anyways

    unsightly creatures

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  40. NATO head shoots down idea of naming new headquarters after McCain

    if they wanted it named after a disgraceful and cowardly senator wouldn’t it already be called the Ted Kennedy NATO Club Headquarters?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. The ellegation against Kavanaugh is not sexual, but it is inconsiderate to say the least:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/13/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein-confidential-letter?__twitter_impression=true`

    `A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  42. Amazing how many in here turn an obviously dishonest piece from the Times into another round of Trump bashing.

    Take a time out and get some air.

    NJRob (08cbd9)

  43. “The curtains were ordered by the Obama Administration and they probably made a down-payment on the order. And the curtains were installed starting in March 2017, so canceling at that point would have saved nothing because the expense had been incurred and the vendor was entitled to be paid.

    These were custom special order……

    The space has to be measured…..”

    You’re responding with facts and common sense, this just makes them more delusional.

    These are the same people who answered every instance of the Obama’s over-spending on vacations with cricket chirps.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  44. I can cancel an order from Amazon.

    Order $52,000 custom made curtains from Amazon, wait two years then cancel the order weeks before delivery. Let us know how your little experiment works. Tell you what, I’ll bet your $52,000 you can’t do it.

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  45. Now taking away Callista Gingrich’s (she’s ambassador to the Vatican) villa in Rome is something I could go along with.

    Unless Trump appoints me ambassador the Patriarchate in Istanbul, in which case I’d want a villa too. Overlooking the Bosphorus — I could also look out for Russian ships entering the Mediterranean.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. 42 – can just see the NYTimes headline:

    Kavanaugh Inconsiderate While High Schooler, Must Be Stopped

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  47. Dustin (#31):

    First of all, this is an NYT slam at Haley, not Trump. As such, this is part of the continuing effor by the NYT to make all Republicans unacceptable grifters. Haley didn’t make the promise; she didn’t buy the drapes. She’s got other things to do.

    And, like the gumball in the White House who sure doesn’t need the living space, the UN apartment residence is part of the job. I don’t recall Haley being personally wealthy, and a suitable place in New York is outrageous. Don’t think she can have the Ambassador from China up to a one bedroom studio in the Bronx.

    I look at this as an attempt to slime one of the few Republicans who has not disgraced themselves by association with Trump. The NYT has done this before — remember the 2008 rumor-mongering printed by the NYT about a potential McCain affair?

    The NYT is a lovely paper in many respects, but it is a partisan organ, and it’s good to be reminded of that from time to time.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  48. “Beria =did that with torture. there;s no comparison.“

    You miss the point, Sammy. In the case of Cavanaugh, I think it’s quite humorous – especially in light of the alleged victim not wishing to pursue it or have her name made known, to refer an allegation about high school conduct to the FBI.

    Feinstein should be ashamed or at least embarrassed, but liberals don’t embarrass easy. This desperate ploy will be one more EPIC FAIL.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  49. Ronan Farrow’s version:

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-sexual-misconduct-allegation-against-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-stirs-tension-among-democrats-in-congress

    The allegation dates back to the early nineteen-eighties, when Kavanaugh was a high-school student at Georgetown Preparatory School, in Bethesda, Maryland, and the woman attended a nearby high school. In the letter, the woman alleged that, during an encounter at a party, Kavanaugh held her down, and that he attempted to force himself on her. She claimed in the letter that Kavanaugh and a classmate of his, both of whom had been drinking, turned up music that was playing in the room to conceal the sound of her protests, and that Kavanaugh covered her mouth with his hand. She was able to free herself. Although the alleged incident took place decades ago and the three individuals involved were minors, the woman said that the memory had been a source of ongoing distress for her, and that she had sought psychological treatment as a result.

    In a statement, Kavanaugh said, “I categorically and unequivocally deny this allegation. I did not do this back in high school or at any time.”

    The questions is: What is “this allegation” that’s being denied: The sexual assault, or attemoting to to lock her in a room without touching her? These are two quite different allegations. Now you see, let’s say, they imprisoned her as some sort of a “joke.” This could be easily be changed into a sexual assault.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  50. These were custom special-order drapes. Typically buyers sign a contract for custom special-order items like this to prevent customers from canceling the orders after they are started, specifically because they can’t be sold off the shelf. If so, and I would bet money there was a contract required by the vendor and the government, then the full fee was due whether or not the government took delivery.

    DRJ (15874d) — 9/14/2018 @ 9:27 am

    I thought I made my point clearer, but I’ll try again. The drapes are only one expense in what is obviously a multi-million dollar waste of money. Why is she living in such a place? What is the purpose of that? Is she unable to afford a home? Does she get free clothing, makeup, phone, food, transportation in addition to the $600k per year rent, a few servants, and absurdly expensive furnishings going well beyond drapes?

    Also, do you actually know that the drapes were ordered by the Obama administration, or are we relying only on the word of the person wasting our money right now on that fact? Where is the evidence there was no way to cancel the order? Why would it take months to cut drapes? I can indeed cancel custom orders before they are made in most circumstances, even if there is a contract, due to the tremendous interest contractors have in a future business relationship. I don’t know that I can rely on anything I hear from this administration, particularly about money, so I would need to see the contract. If it exists, why didn’t Haley show it to us?

    But that’s a drop in the bucket in Haley’s awesome lifestyle, and it’s only one example the NYT used in this story. They got this right insofar as the Trump administration has failed to keep their promise to balance our budget or even care about spending at all.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  51. However, Dustin, I agree with you that Trump should keep his promise to rein in spending. The Times’ article begins by contrasting the money spent on drapes while enforcing State Department spending cuts. Those were Tillerson’s cuts that his successor, Pompeo, undid after Trump fired Tillerson.

    DRJ (15874d)

  52. First of all, this is an NYT slam at Haley, not Trump. As such, this is part of the continuing effor by the NYT to make all Republicans unacceptable grifters.

    Yes! And they got it right. They are unacceptable grifters. They just talk a good game about how bad the democrats are at spending (granted that is true) but then go and spend tons of money anyway.

    I look at this as an attempt to slime one of the few Republicans

    It’s not slime if it’s the truth. How much money has the taxpayer spent on Haley’s home since she became an ambassador? Probably over a million dollars. The drapes are a great specific detail, but why isn’t she paying her own expenses?

    The NYT is a lovely paper in many respects, but it is a partisan organ

    My first comment said the same. I agree completely. The NYT will frame this as GOP waste, and the GOP will do the opposite. Both sides will see the other side wasting money and focus on that instead of holding their own side accountable. This is how we got where we are today.

    Haley wasting our future financial health for her personal benefit is indeed disgraceful and she should move out and cancel whatever she can of this waste. Some of it she can’t cancel. DRJ is surely right about that. But if she does her best, that’s good enough.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  53. Why would it take months to cut drapes?

    dirty union curtain thugs love to slow-walk things like this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. I can’t argue with you there, Dustin. I don’t know any of this myself, only what I read, and you are right that it could all be FAKE NEWS !!

    DRJ (15874d)

  55. One report said the government has historically quartered the UN Ambassador and her aide in the Waldorf Astoria. Their quarters were moved after the Chinese bought the hotel and there were security concerns about leaving them there.

    DRJ (15874d)

  56. Re: Talking about false or rigged, scientific studies:

    The conspiracy, which goes back to the 1950s, to lie about the causes of obesity, which you might have thought might be over, is still active: (

    https://ninateicholz.com/faqs/

    http://wagyu.org/uploads/page/WSJ%203May14%20-%20Butter%20and%20Sat%20Fat.pdf

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/carbs-good-for-you-fat-chance-1536705397 (Sept. 11, 2018 6:36 p.m. ET. Behind a paywall, but maybe might be read one time via a Google search for words contained in the quote)

    Further, the ARIC participants’ eating habits were tracked only twice, from 1987-89 and 1993-95. After 1995 the study’s participants were assumed to have continued eating the same diet for the next 15 years. During that time the Mediterranean diet craze hit and the junk-food industry exploded, yet ARIC captured none of these effects….It gets worse. The authors threw out any data on carb consumption from subjects who “developed heart disease, diabetes, and stroke” before the second diet visit, “to reduce potential confounding.” They don’t reveal how much evidence was dropped, but this seems like it would be the most relevant portion of any study about the relationship between carb consumption and disease….Lancet Public Health (a separate journal from its more prestigious parent, the Lancet) charges contributors an “article processing fee” of $5,000. The journal publishes papers that need to be distributed “quickly” to “advance public health policies.” What exactly was the rush here? Given the lack of rigor, it seems the paper’s purpose was not to help people eat better and live longer but rather to quash public interest in low-carb, high-fat diets.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  57. “Why is she living in such a place? What is the purpose of that? Is she unable to afford a home? Does she get free clothing, makeup, phone, food, transportation in addition to the $600k per year rent, a few servants, and absurdly expensive furnishings going well beyond drapes?”

    Remember this the next time you read about a public employee using sick days, overtime and a promotion given during the last year of employment – thus increasing the salary total of that last year that is normally used to base the monetary calculation – to pad the pension payout.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  58. Ed Koch, while in a car where a girl was also, grabbed her (this was when he was very young) and she reacted badly to it. It seems like he never touched a woman again.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  59. My guess is they have a 5 or 10 year lease on the space. They can default and breach the lease, but that has a price and they still have to put them somewhere. We are paying for Obama’s extravagance.

    By the way, I doubt this was a “Help Hillary” expense. It was probably spent in the hope President Hillary would keep Samantha Power on, making it a “Help Samantha” expense.

    DRJ (15874d)

  60. Dustin:

    Effectively, you believe the UN Ambassador needs to be wealthy. Haley isn’t rich. Without the free residence, she woudn’t have taken the job. Instead, we probably would have gotten another of the Donald’s gazillionaire friends.

    I believe in holding people accountable. Complaining about drapes is an easy way to pretend you are holding people accountable. Frankly, the cost was incurred because we didn’t want the UN ambassador working in a place where the Chinese might start eavesdropping.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  61. It would just be showing off to cancel anything. But I doubt Nikki JHaley cares about the
    drapes. Bureacracts did that, not expecting a Republican appointee to live there. The parties probably cost much more and are probably thoroughly unnecessary.

    Perhaps they should downgrade the White House.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  62. However, Dustin, I agree with you that Trump should keep his promise to rein in spending. The Times’ article begins by contrasting the money spent on drapes while enforcing State Department spending cuts. Those were Tillerson’s cuts that his successor, Pompeo, undid after Trump fired Tillerson.

    DRJ (15874d) — 9/14/2018 @ 9:48 am

    Outstanding example, and I appreciate the intelligent responses. You make a great point that the NYT framed a good conservative decision about cutting lots of spending against a specific executive’s lifestyle. The NYT should praise that move (granted, you’ve shown that the budget cuts were undone). Leaders should lead the way on these things, and it goes beyond the numbers.

    That’s true in all organizations. We notice if our leaders are hypocrites. Trump and his senior appointees live like kings. They play a lot of golf. They do not lead on being stewards of money they have borrowed from the future generations of Americans who have to pay their debts.

    Spending must always be discussed with that great gravity that we’re approaching a crisis. Republicans talk like they think this way when it comes to Obama, and then … some of them kinda stop talking about it when it’s inconvenient.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  63. 61. But maybe they could have orderd vention blinds. And bought them from overstock.com This whole thing is penny wise.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  64. I think Dustin is raising good points to discuss, and he may be right that this could have bedn canceled. We don’t know. It’s good to think about this and discuss it, instead of just start bashing away because we don’t like the source.

    DRJ (15874d)

  65. Effectively, you believe the UN Ambassador needs to be wealthy

    I am not wealthy yet I pay my mortgage, car payment, for my food. There are a lot of people who work for Haley in New york City who seem to do that. They probably commute from New Jersey and yes, that’s OK.

    If she wouldn’t take the job without tremendous personal benefit, I wish she hadn’t taken the job.

    Frankly, the cost was incurred because we didn’t want the UN ambassador working in a place where the Chinese might start eavesdropping.

    Yeah, I’m sure that’s really hard to do in a bustling riviera of servants and stuff.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  66. Why don’t people say that the letter that the New York State Democratic Committee sent to 7,000 voters was probably done to help Simcha Felder, not Andrew Cuomo. It was designed to increase turnout among avery select group of voters. It didn’t need to mention simcha Felder.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/nyregion/cuomo-anti-semitism-nixon-flier.html

    This was too small scale to have anything to do with the Governor’s race.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  67. 37. 38. They might have been special order to prevent possible spying.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  68. Remember this the next time you read about a public employee using sick days, overtime and a promotion given during the last year of employment – thus increasing the salary total of that last year that is normally used to base the monetary calculation – to pad the pension payout.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7) — 9/14/2018 @ 9:54 am

    Just add like three zeros to it.

    And the promise to balance the budget.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  69. Dustin,

    I doubt this expense for the apartment or the drapes — and imagine all the other stuff in this apartment! – can be undone but my first reaction was the same as yours. Here is what I wrote at The Jury:

    This is unfair to Haley and Trump, but it is also unfair to the American public to spend money this way. I get that the windows are probably large and the curtains for them are expensive, but there should be something more economical to use even in NY.

    DRJ (15874d)

  70. but yeah, Haiku has a good point that a lot of people game our systems in the public sector. And DRJ had that great point that the NYT has contrasting an effort to cut spending against a hypocrite.

    Trump is very vulnerable to this problem because he promised tons of spending cuts and has lived a princely term so far. If the next democrat candidate makes a credible plan to be a conservative on spending a liberal on social policy, it would be a game changer. Of course, that’s not how the democrats work and they see Trump as an opportunity to push leftward.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  71. Sammy,

    The article claims that Haley’s spokesperson said she needs mechanized drapes because she only has a part-time maid.

    DRJ (15874d)

  72. What Tillerson wss mainly cutting was staff, (and with that maybe locationns) not prerequisites of office or comfort.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  73. https://mobile.twitter.com/JerylBier/status/1040584849227165696/photo/1

    Jeryl Bier
    @JerylBier
    Replying to
    @SamanthaJPower
    NYTimes on Samantha Power: “…penthouse atop the Waldorf Towers, the official residence of the United States ambassador to the United Nations…” (I included extra photos of the residence!)
    __ _

    Daniel Foster
    @DanFosterType
    It really is one of the most reliable biases. When one party is in power it’s Jackie-O’s Camelot. When the other party is in power, it’s Marie Antoinette’s Versailles.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  74. I think Tillerson’s plan was more than staff cuts, Sammy, and most staffing reductions were (I think) through attrition.

    DRJ (15874d)

  75. Take a time out and get some air.

    NJRob (08cbd9) — 9/14/2018 @ 9:36 am

    Actually, talking about politics is something I do for fun after working hard all week. As I’ve been saying for quite a while, I don’t think politics really matters anymore. There is this illusion of choice. Political blog commenting isn’t activism.

    The best defense y’all have is that Trump is just like Obama when it comes to expensive drapes. The worst attack I had was that Trump is a lot like Hillary. It’s the same statement, really. So there’s no reason to fight for Trump or Obama or the next example. Haley versus Kamala? Who cares?

    I barely care enough to vote in the Texas mid-term. My neighbors have a BETO sign that fell over in the weather. I put it back up for them with a chuckle that I’d never support the guy in a million years, but my neighbors are very nice people so I might as well. Trust me, I’m very liberated from being upset about politics.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  76. I see a lot of Beto signs and that is extremely unusual in my town.

    DRJ (15874d)

  77. harvardtrash Ted Cruz and his dirty harvardtrash sacky aren’t very popular because they’re loathsome disgusting unprincipled people, and they’ve really not taken any steps to remediate this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  78. Your link has photos of the Waldorf penthouse apartment, harkin. Not shabby at all.

    DRJ (15874d)

  79. Imagine if Haley’s response was this:

    We sent this letter to the contractor asking for the drapes to be cancelled and the money refunded. They said they could not so we took the drapes the taxpayers paid for.

    We terminated the servants and have notified the landlord we are terminating our lease. We have placed the $7123098340193890410239481029348 in furniture for sale. Gov. Haley will commute from New Jersey. She recognizes that the budget cuts to the staff are a change of pace from the Obama administration and she’s prepared to make similar sacrifices, as all of America’s senior leadership should.

    btw I want mechanized drapes that are controllable by the Amazon Echo. Anyone have anything like that they want to recommend? You could buy my whole house for 3-4 Obamadrapes so hopefully this is something you can get for a few hundred dollars.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  80. harvardtrash Ted Cruz and his dirty harvardtrash sacky aren’t very popular because they’re loathsome disgusting unprincipled people, and they’ve really not taken any steps to remediate this

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2018 @ 10:21 am

    He should have gone down in flames refusing to endorse Trump. I’d have a Cruz sign in my yard if he had.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  81. Some Texans are unhappy that Cruz caved so completely to Trump, happyfeet. They liked Cruz enough to elect him Senator and to give Cruz the win in the GOP Presidential primary. Only one thing changed since then and that is Trump, and now Republicans are less popular in Texas.

    DRJ (15874d)

  82. Breaking: Paul Manafort plea bargain

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/14/us/politics/manafort-plea-deal.html

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  83. I don’t know if it works with Echo but start here and see if there is anything similar.

    DRJ (15874d)

  84. This has better reviews.

    DRJ (15874d)

  85. The death toll was estimated as maybe 1,052 by the New York Times in early December, 2017:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/08/us/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-death-toll.html

    It notes different localities use different methods of attribution (but says Puerto Rico;s policy includes lots of indirect deaths, like from suicide and gives some of the history of estimates of deaths causes by Huurricane Maria up until that time. CNN, for instance surveyed funeral directors and got almost 500 names.

    It has some specific causes of deaths from death certificates:

    Sepsis 64 in Sept 2015, 61 in Sept 2016, and 92 in Sept 2017 +47

    Pneumonia 50 in Sept 2015, 55 in Sept 2016 and 76 in Sept. 2017 +45

    Emphysema and other breathing disorders 104 in Sept. 2015, 114 in Sept. 2016, and 156 in Sept 2017
    +43

    Diabetes 221 in Sept. 2015, 249 in Sept. 2016, and 309 in Sept. 2016 +31

    Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s 189 in Sept. 2015, 183 in Sept. 2016, and 229 in Sept. 2017 +23

    Percentage change is the number of deaths in Sept. 2017 compared with the average of the number of deaths in Sept. 2015 and Sept. 2016.

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    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  86. Imagine if Halley had more important things to do than obsess over decisions made by what are essentially facilities people, micromanaging things that are irrelevant in the scheme of things, especially in a critical early timeframe when establishing a new administration’s foreign policy should be the focus. I doubt she even knew about any of this until today. If she’s not so busy she still doesn’t know about it herself. $52K is an amount of money many people here on this very blog could part with, unhappily for most I’m sure, but still without too much sweat over it. Hell, you can find it in the seat cushions of HHS offices. Now consider the alternate universe where Haley comes into office, finds out about some drapes that were ordered and does the various things people like Dustin say she should have done. The media gets hold of that and makes it a “look how silly Trump’s appointee is, and especially at this critical juncture”. Gee wiz, she should have known yadda-yadda-yadda. It’s not like she gave someone a thumbs-up or OK gesture. Let it go.

    Skorcher (094b61)

  87. Mr. Cruz needs to do everything he can possibly do to help President Trump enact the agenda people voted for because democracy

    remember he went off the rails originally when he decided that the bathroom tranny issue was the number one most important issue in America, and he’s had to admit he was wrong about that

    he also thought tennessee bigot Kim Davis was the photo op of the decade, which was a weird decision to make, especially when you’re trying to get people to like you

    (you don’t hear him lavishing praise on hateful old Kim Davis anymore, but the damage, alas, was done)

    but especially with respect to trade and border security he needs to support our president

    the Texas economy’s benefited tremendously from President Trump doing all the good policies that’s for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. Mr. Cruz needs to do everything he can possibly do to help President Trump enact the agenda people voted for because democracy

    remember he went off the rails originally when he decided that the bathroom tranner issue was the number one most important issue in America, and he’s had to admit he was wrong about that

    he also thought tennessee bigot Kim Davis was the photo op of the decade, which was a weird decision to make, especially when you’re trying to get people to like you

    (you don’t hear him lavishing praise on hateful old Kim Davis anymore, but the damage, alas, was done)

    but especially with respect to trade and border security he needs to support our president

    the Texas economy’s benefited tremendously from President Trump doing all the good policies that’s for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. I’d have a Cruz sign in my yard if he had.

    maybe but there’s actually a shortage of Cruz signs cause he didn’t order a lot

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. i love that picture up there of Nikki talking to her curtain broker about buying even more curtains

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. Amazing how many in here turn an obviously dishonest piece from the Times into another round of Trump bashing.

    I don’t see “many” people doing that here. But it’s amazing how offended you are when anyone points out Trump’s dishonesty or the double standards used to defend him.

    Trumpistas keep trying to make stories like this into a story of Donald Trump heroically standing up to the corrupt media and demanding that they be truthful. It is no such thing, as any honest look at the history of the media and the history and habits of Trump makes clear. When someone routinely lies in order to aggrandize himself, and coyly cites tabloid trash planted to hurt his rival, I can’t get very offended when that person is on the receiving end of media dirty tricks.

    Haley, on the other hand, deserves better.

    Radegunda (07ace3)

  92. Mr. Cruz needs to do everything he can possibly do to help President Trump enact the agenda people voted for because democracy

    This is a very interesting sentence because Trump’s voters supported an agenda including deep budget cuts, but then… the more democratic truth is that most voters wanted the Hillary agenda, and yet I agree everyone should help Trump enact his agenda or even take his own agenda seriously.

    he decided that the bathroom tranner issue was the number one most important issue in America

    I don’t think this has ever been Cruz’s #1 issue.

    Texas economy’s benefited tremendously from President Trump

    What

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  93. President Trump’s budgets have all contained very deep cuts but pedophile Mitt Romney’s slicked-up boy toy Paul Ryan just spends and spends and spends

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. “Some Texans are unhappy that Cruz caved so completely to Trump, happyfeet. They liked Cruz enough to elect him Senator and to give Cruz the win in the GOP Presidential primary. Only one thing changed since then and that is Trump, and now Republicans are less popular in Texas.”

    A lot of folks moving to Texas from blue states. Are they bringing their politics with them or did they leave them behind?

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  95. I don’t think this has ever been Cruz’s #1 issue.

    i could be wrong but it’s definitely top 10

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  96. harvardtrash Ted Cruz is a very unimaginative and stupid person what built his doomed presidential campaign around an unquestioning adherence to poor addled ronald reagan’s tired and dated “three-legged stool” dogma

    FAIL

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  97. harvardponce Ted Cruz is a very unimaginative and stupid person what built his doomed presidential campaign around an unquestioning adherence to poor addled ronald reagan’s tired and dated “three-legged stool” dogma

    FAIL

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. I know all my neighbors who have Beto signs, Haiku. They are Texans.

    DRJ (15874d)

  99. DRJ,,

    you’ve agreed to let the left control the agenda and you fight over whatever they want to focus on. That’s what your comment at 65 entails.

    Should we now drop Kavanaugh like a bad habit since they are going the route I said they would after they successfully destroyed Roy Moore?

    NJRob (1d7532)

  100. What I have noticed is that people who move here, and there are many, aren’t used to knowing their neighbors. They say they have rarely known their neighbors. I’m sure there are many places in Texas like that, but maybe not quite as many places.

    DRJ (15874d)

  101. NJRob,

    I think you should believe whatever you want to believe and say whatever you want to say.

    DRJ (15874d)

  102. As for Kavanaugh, I think his accuser should come forward. Absent that, I see no evidence that concerns me as I did with Moore.

    DRJ (15874d)

  103. Should we now drop Kavanaugh like a bad habit since they are going the route I said they would after they successfully destroyed Roy Moore?

    for his part, pedophile Mitt Romney says we should drop Kavanaugh like a hot rock:

    Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not Supreme Court nominations.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  104. I don’t see “many” people doing that here. But it’s amazing how offended you are when anyone points out Trump’s dishonesty or the double standards used to defend him.

    Trumpistas keep trying to make stories like this into a story of Donald Trump heroically standing up to the corrupt media and demanding that they be truthful. It is no such thing, as any honest look at the history of the media and the history and habits of Trump makes clear. When someone routinely lies in order to aggrandize himself, and coyly cites tabloid trash planted to hurt his rival, I can’t get very offended when that person is on the receiving end of media dirty tricks.

    Haley, on the other hand, deserves better.

    Radegunda (07ace3) — 9/14/2018 @ 10:44 am

    You’re one of them so of course you wouldn’t see it that way. Get some air.

    NJRob (1d7532)

  105. Radegunda, you’re ONE OF THEM! Wrong-tribe!

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  106. 98… over 2,000,000 new residents in Texas since Cruz’s election in 2012. It would be reasonable to assume that has impacted politics, as well.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  107. Radegunda, you’re ONE OF THEM! Wrong-tribe!

    Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:01 am

    Calling out one of the guys who brings Trump up in every article and calls people who disagrees with him Trumpistas yet accuses me of tribalism.

    Pot meet kettle.

    Take a breath Dustin.

    NJRob (1d7532)

  108. “…pedophile Mitt Romney…”

    This coming from hot and horny happyfootfetish, who is always down, if you know what I mean.

    Seriously, dude. Knock it off.

    I would love it so much if you said it to Romney. Because he would knock you on your ass. And you would deserve the loosened teeth.

    There are lots of things to criticize Romney about. This isn’t one of them, except for awful people like you.

    You are free to say what you want, and so am I. And as soon as you quit being a horse’s ass, I’ll quit calling you a happyfootfetishist who likes it rough.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  109. The cat planet must be in juxtaposition.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. “I know all my neighbors who have Beto signs, Haiku. They are Texans.”

    So they support Robert O’Rourke… okay then.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  111. pedophile Mitt Romney would be the first person to defend my right to accuse him of pedophilia without any evidence.

    It’s a deeply held belief he holds!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  112. Take a breath Dustin.

    NJRob (1d7532) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:03 am

    I’m breathing easy! You’re the one trying to troll a reaction by insulting people just because they have a different opinion than you do. There’s no need for NJRob or anyone else to make these conversations personal or ugly, and yet it happens every single time.

    What is so threatening to you about our comments that you keep asking us to stop leaving them? Just come up with an intelligent response, as several others have done, and we can have a fun conversation with out the personal element.

    Cheer up, man! Maybe practice what you’re preaching … rather obsessively.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  113. DRJ, I must tell you that I like everything I hear about Texas, other than the heat. Maybe I would have fit in better there.

    Well, I’m not sure the universities are still free minded.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  114. And you would deserve the loosened teeth.

    i just finished braces i look so beautiful

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. Hey happyfeet! It’s a fact you like sucking toe jam, right? Or are you more into scat and water sports?

    Since you feel it’s cool to defame others, I think I will do the same.

    I’ll stop when you do, happypervert.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  116. And you know the funny part? My response to filthyfeet is in moderation.

    Unlike his own consistent filth.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  117. You would hate it here, Simon, as a teacher and someone who has lived in pretty places. You’ve been to Austin (congratulations again!) That’s our prettiest place and it isn’t that pretty. Texas’ “beauty” is its people and ideas.

    Haiku, keep telling yourself that.

    DRJ (15874d)

  118. Perhaps, so, DRJ. But I was raised in Los Angeles, and almost anything is better than that.

    I like where I live, but I like the Texans I have met a great deal. I feel the same way about the Alaskans I have met.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  119. NJRob, I’m getting plenty of air, thanks. And you’re one of the people (of whom I see many on other sites) who seem to be obsessed with trying to slap down anything even marginally critical of Trump. And usually the response is with insults more than facts. Why does it bother some people so very much if others don’t think Trump is as great and faultless as Trump believes he is?

    A big rallying cry in his favor in the campaign was “He says whatever he thinks, and doesn’t care what anyone else thinks about it!” So it’s quite remarkable that his fans get so offended when people say what they think about Trump. And that started early in the primaries, long before the “But Hillary” defense made any sense at all.

    Radegunda (07ace3)

  120. That fits my theory, Simon! I think people who live in harsh climates like Texas and Alaska develop two qualities that seem like opposites, but aren’t:

    A desire for independence and personal responsibility, because they have to look out for themselves.

    A realization that they may need help someday, so they try to be neighborly and help others if they can.

    DRJ (15874d)

  121. NJRob, anyone who seriously objected to the thread becoming about Trump could simply have ignored any comments that mentioned Trump, instead of jumping up to express outrage that Trump had been mentioned unflatteringly. And then I wouldn’t have commented on the very touchy responses to unflattering statements about Trump.

    Radegunda (07ace3)

  122. Texas had 13,646,226 registered voters in November of 2012 and have 15,249,541 registered voters as of March 2018.

    Personally, I sincerely hope Cruz soundly beats that empty pair of blue jeans.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  123. Getting back to the point of the thread, it’s so irritating when people just read the title of a report, and allow confirmation bias to inform them/misinform them.

    With DJT’s background, it would make sense he would want to spend a lot of money on something like drapes. So for folks on the Left, it’s not even worth checking. Even for some folks on the Right. Certainly, DJT hasn’t demonstrated the “common touch” when it comes to decorating and personal excesses!

    Yet as Dana correctly points out, the drapes were purchased via BHO’s administration!

    And that does NOT fit the Left’s narrative, does it?

    I find that, more and more, I simply don’t trust what I read from the media. Even or especially if want to believe it.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  124. Texans have impressed me over the last 20 years that I have known and worked with so many of them. I count many of them as friends, not just good acquaintances. IMHO, it’s the influx of new residents from blue states that has the potential to take it in the wrong direction.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  125. your hostility

    it’s bewildering and frightening

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  126. Haiku:

    Texas had 13,646,226 registered voters in November of 2012 and have 15,249,541 registered voters as of March 2018.

    Texas also had 15,101,087 registered voters in 2016. So Texas has 100,000 more voters than when Trump was elected. I already said there are a lot of people coming to Texas, although given normal population growth that isn’t a lot of new voters.

    If you want to believe they are all liberals craving the chance to move to a red state in the hopes of turning it blue, instead of people looking for jobs, so be it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  127. DRJ:

    Texas’ “beauty” is its people and ideas.

    West Texas (Alpine, Marathon, and even Marfa) is kinda pretty in its own right.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  128. The neighbors I have with the Beto signs have been Texans a long time. Like California, Texas is large and has millions of people who are liberal and millions who are conservative.

    Obviously many of the people moving to Texas from California are very, very conservative. When I think of my friends who are Nike-burning conservative, they are recent imports from Illinois and New Jersey. That’s common sense.

    Trump has changed the GOP brand for Texas, a state that has always had difficulty accepting dishonesty. Even Trump fans have to acknowledge that Trump has lied to the American people numerous times.

    I don’t think liberal Texans aren’t Texan or are less Texan. Texas isn’t the kind of Red State that other places might be.

    I also hope Cruz beats Beto, but I’m also not that worried about it. Who cares? Is the budget going to be balanced if I vote for Cruz? Nope. Is the GOP going to hold Trump accountable for criminal behavior? Nope. So it’s not really worth being mad about. I know the people supporting Beto love the country too, and they mostly just want to send a message about Trump. Ask them. they will tell you! It’s all over the internet. Anyone not recognizing Trump’s impact on texas should consider how insulated they are from what people are saying/shouting.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  129. Mr. Feet, your perversion and evidence of bestiality is disquieting in the workplace. I’m sure that no one lets you dogsit anymore, after the last incident with the Bichon.

    But you see, I’m just doing what you are doing. Accusing you baselessly and repetitively of grotesque things. Except I’m not as mindlessly repetitive as your own crudity.

    Again: lay off the accusations of criminal and sick behavior, and stick with facts. I have just as much right to post such things about you as you do about politicians.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  130. Those places are nice, Appalled, as is San Antonio and some parts of East Texas. I love Texas but it isn’t known for its beauty.

    DRJ (15874d)

  131. i remember going out to a scrubby forest near austin one day to shoot my little gun and there were scores of armadillos shuffling everywhere you looked and in so many different colors red ones and gray ones and white ones and black ones and yellow ones and blue ones and they were pointedly ignoring us

    they were just looking for grubs to eat

    this was during the drought though so maybe that had something to do with it

    but i never seen so many armadillos

    man that was a lot of armadillos

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  132. Beauty is where you find it, DRJ. Austin was nice, and I did not see crazies. The Uber driver was a superb woman working her way to a degree in computer engineering. The folks working the conference center were polite and well spoken.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  133. Dustin, I think it’s more appropriate to put the drapes on Obama, not Trump or Haley. She was confirmed on January 24th and I assume she had bigger things to worry about than the decor ordered by the previous occupant.

    Paul Montagu (b695ad)

  134. “If you want to believe they are all liberals craving the chance to move to a red state in the hopes of turning it blue, instead of people looking for jobs, so be it.“

    What’s your deal, DRJ? I said it has potential to take it in the wrong direction. People would move looking for a job and a better life for their families, it doesn’t mean they’d leave their politics behind with their unfulfilled hopes and dreams.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  135. Mr. Feet, I have never seen an armadillo in the wild. They are fascinating beasts, and produce natural clones!

    https://mypages.valdosta.edu/jloughry/Reprints/AmSci.pdf

    I think that is a nice thing to remember when the business about their carrying leprosy disturbs me.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  136. It’s squarely on Cruz to make the sale. If he can’t beat a guy like Beto, that may be one of those ringing indictments of the electorate that our host proclaimed.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  137. happyfeet (#132):

    You shouldn’t mix mushrooms and firearms, son.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  138. 138… lol… probably teh peyote…

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  139. Beauty is where you find it, DRJ. Austin was nice, and I did not see crazies. The Uber driver was a superb woman working her way to a degree in computer engineering. The folks working the conference center were polite and well spoken.

    Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:39 am

    The AT&T conference center? They have a great restaurant. Next time you’re in town you should reach out to me.

    Dustin, I think it’s more appropriate to put the drapes on Obama, not Trump or Haley. She was confirmed on January 24th and I assume she had bigger things to worry about than the decor ordered by the previous occupant.

    Paul Montagu (b695ad) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:41 am

    Here’s the problem. There is absolutely no reason to put the blame on one or the other for the general problem, and focusing on the drapes and only the drapes is irrational. This is a multi-million dollar residence that both administrations have wasted enormous money on, as a symptom of a great disease. And for Trump it is indeed worse because of his promise to balance the budget.

    So by all means, blame Obama for the drapes too. But why does our ambassador need us to provide her with a residence? Get rid of all of that, for most of these dignitaries. It’s 2018. You don’t even need to go to meetings in person.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  140. It’s all over the innernetz, so it must be true. Here’s to hoping the average Texan appreciates the qualifications, qualities and common sense Cruz brings to the table.

    Granted, he hasn’t sung in a rock band while wearing a dress, but clear thinkers may still find that of some value.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  141. If you want to believe they are all liberals craving the chance to move to a red state in the hopes of turning it blue, instead of people looking for jobs, so be it.

    Not like being a liberal and looking for a job don’t intersect in a big way. Top 10 most common jobs in Texas:
    1 Retail salespersons 304,980 $20,574
    2 Combined food preparation and serving workers, including fast food 220,230 $13,707
    3 Cashiers 219,920 $15,508
    4 Office clerks, general 164,960 $20,089
    5 Customer service representatives 161,680 $23,957
    6 Laborers and freight, stock, and material movers, hand 161,070 $18,601
    7 Waiters and waitresses 144,240 $13,666
    8 General and operations managers 143,020 $80,748
    9 Registered nurses 135,920 $52,178
    10 Secretaries, except legal, medical, and executive 135,500 $22,913

    http://www.seniorjobbank.org/database/texas/texas.html

    Doesn’t exactly scream Republican.

    Skorcher (094b61)

  142. here’s a wonderfully tasteful and really quite pretty fat-people-on-a-budget wedding what happened in Thalia, Texas

    love the cake and the venue’s a huge win too

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  143. Manafort’s plea deal includes forfeiture of $46M in assets to the Feds.

    That’s more than twice what Mueller’s entire Russia-gate investigation has cost so far. In effect, Mueller got Manafort to pay for his whole investigation, with interest!

    Before the end of the day, I expect a tweet from Donald Trump praising Mueller for saving the taxpayers tens of millions of dollars…

    Dave (445e97)

  144. America taken to cleaners for ironed curtains.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  145. UPDATE: The Times was forced to backtrack on its indefensible story and added this editor’s note, but only after the fake news had been up for hours:

    Editors’ Note: September 14, 2018

    An earlier version of this article and headline created an unfair impression about who was responsible for the purchase in question. While Nikki R. Haley is the current ambassador to the United Nations, the decision on leasing the ambassador’s residence and purchasing the curtains was made during the Obama administration, according to current and former officials. The article should not have focused on Ms. Haley, nor should a picture of her have been used. The article and headline have now been edited to reflect those concerns, and the picture has been removed.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  146. (what Mr. narciso said)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  147. Dustin,

    If you look at these photos provided by a site that deals with NYC real estate, the windows are substantial. When you consider square foot, safety features, and fabric involved, it’s going to cost a pretty penny. More photos here.

    The point of my post, which I attempted to make clear, is that the NYT once again attempts to smear a Republican for doing what every other person holding that position has done – except Haley is doing it for far, far less than her predecessors.

    I don’t like a buried lede (6th para). I think their headline is dishonest, and intentionally so.

    There is certainly an overall argument to be made about every administration’s outrageous spending, but along with Trump’s “drain the swamp,” all presidents swear that they are going to bring down spending. How’s that been working out so far? Whether left or right, they are all spending whores and the system has enabled them to be so.

    Dana (023079)

  148. Also, I’ve added an update to the post:

    UPDATE: Facing criticism, an editors’ note has been appended to this story:

    An earlier version of this article and headline created an unfair impression about who was responsible for the purchase in question. While Nikki R. Haley is the current ambassador to the United Nations, the decision on leasing the ambassador’s residence and purchasing the curtains was made during the Obama administration, according to current and former officials. The article should not have focused on Ms. Haley, nor should a picture of her have been used. The article and headline have now been edited to reflect those concerns, and the picture has been removed.

    Dana (023079)

  149. Not like being a liberal and looking for a job don’t intersect in a big way. Top 10 most common jobs in Texas:
    1 Retail salespersons 304,980 $20,574
    2 Combined food preparation and serving workers, including fast food 220,230 $13,707
    3 Cashiers 219,920 $15,508
    4 Office clerks, general 164,960 $20,089
    5 Customer service representatives 161,680 $23,957
    6 Laborers and freight, stock, and material movers, hand 161,070 $18,601
    7 Waiters and waitresses 144,240 $13,666
    8 General and operations managers 143,020 $80,748
    9 Registered nurses 135,920 $52,178
    10 Secretaries, except legal, medical, and executive 135,500 $22,913

    Do you mean to say that really common jobs aren’t the highest-paying jobs?

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you.

    Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71)

  150. happyfeet,

    I’ve deleted your diagustingly ugly comment about Nikki Haley. If you go that route again, you will be put in moderation.

    Dana (023079)

  151. i liked that comment it was insouciant

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  152. C’mon footsies, be nice

    Dave (226325)

  153. i WAS nice i did a comment for nikki what was satire on the curtain scandal and i know for a fact she got a kick out of it cause she texted me and said ha saw ur comment lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  154. 149… mission accomplished. Far fewer will see the retraction/correction, so they’ve done what they set out to do.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  155. Do the curtains match teh carpet?

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  156. Sources say Stephens wrote the op ed.

    Narciso (2c8bee)

  157. The cost to motorcade (more likely helicopter) the UN Ambassador back and forth from New Jersey every day would probably justify the cost of the curtains and the lease.

    And whats with all the talk about drapes… I thought everyone was calling them window treatments now.

    Anyone out there know how much those huge theater curtains are?

    steveg (a9dcab)

  158. Far fewer will see the retraction/correction

    You have no evidence to support this assertion.

    The original story was online for a few hours; the corrected version will remain online indefinitely. Any link originally made to the story will automatically link to the correction.

    Dave (226325)

  159. They probably match McCabe’s redacted $70,000 conference table.

    Munroe (6c9982)

  160. You have no evidence to support this assertion.

    but did dirty parkland fascist david hogg tweet the corection

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  161. Never mind.

    Googled it.

    High school, church etc from $20K to $85K

    steveg (a9dcab)

  162. Rip-off! You can order them from Amazon for $249.50 with same day delivery!

    IF… you have Amazon Prime.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  163. Behind the curtains never seen labor intense woodwork of exotic species.

    mg (8cbc69)

  164. Sorry, but the point stands. The Trump administration’s ambassador in New York City wastes millions of dollars living in a palace, after Trump promised to cut spending. Sheer waste in the face of a broken promise. America can’t turn to the GOP for fiscal restraint.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  165. i’m not feeling this Florence thing at all

    and certainly not in the special tingly places Mr. Drudge is feeling it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  166. Dustin,

    I don’t disagree with your overall poin, but at least acknowledge that the point of my post is valid: the NYT intentionally and willfully smeared Nikki Haley. The issue with GOP overspending is also valid, but secondary to the issue of what the NYT did.

    Dana (023079)

  167. wastes millions of dollars living in a palace

    where do you get “millions” from

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  168. lol Florence

    american “journalists”

    so depraved

    so butt-nasty

    they do their dirty fake news all up in the silliest things

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  169. What’s your deal, DRJ? I said it has potential to take it in the wrong direction. People would move looking for a job and a better life for their families, it doesn’t mean they’d leave their politics behind with their unfulfilled hopes and dreams.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:41 am

    Thank you for asking. My “deal” is that you seem to be looking for ways to say that Cruz’s drop in the polls has nothing to do with Trump. You may or may not be right from a macro perspective, but my micro experience suggests Trump has everything to do with Cruz’s sudden decrease in popularity in Texas.

    Trump is the reason the GOP won in 2016 in some unexpected Midwestern states. Take pleasure in that, but it’s not surprising that what plays well in some of those states does not play well in Texas.

    DRJ (15874d)

  170. As for the jobs people are moving to Texas for (or staying in Texas for), Skorcher, it probably isn’t for those jobs. Maybe some come here for lower-wage service jobs, but most want higher-paying oilfield-related jobs.

    DRJ (15874d)

  171. don’t disagree with your overall poin, but at least acknowledge that the point of my post is valid: the NYT intentionally and willfully smeared Nikki Haley.

    The NYT did indeed do that. They tried to spin the spending as a unique example of GOP hypocrisy. The GOP tries to say Obama did it, and the Democrats try to say Trump does it.

    It is obviously worse for Trump because he runs on the mantle of a balanced budget, and the democrats run on the mantle of more government and spending, but the pattern of bias from the NYT can’t be ignored.

    Instead, we have the NYT trying to frame the GOP BS, and conservatives trying to frame Democrat BS, and each side’s loyalists deflecting everything in the same manner.

    That’s what I said in my first comment in this thread some hours ago. The NYT is a democrat party organ that will deflect all problems reliably for their party.

    Smear isn’t the right word though. Haley is wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on her palatial apartment. She has shown zero evidence she did anything to attempt to cancel these drapes, or make any other effort to change this lavish lifestyle. The NYT got the big picture of hypocrisy right, but they were blind to how the Obama administration did the same thing.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  172. There’s this assumption that it’s the left wing political activists coming from California to Texas, and not ‘leaving behind’ their politics. Isn’t that the most mentally ill thing you could assume about these people?

    If you actually come to Texas and meet one of the bazillion people from New Jersey, Illinois, and California, you’ll see they are quite often die hard conservatives who came to Texas because they want to live in the culture of Texas. It’s not the only place you can get a job.

    No, the problem is that the GOP has lost her way with Trump, and a lot of long term, lifelong Texas Republicans like me are extremely disappointed. I want the government to balance its budget. That’s #1 to me. I want politicians to tell the truth. Why would I vote for the GOP if those are my issues?

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  173. If Texas is getting bluer, that is certainly a factor, but indoctrination is as significant as migration,

    Narciso (2c8bee)

  174. I wish Cruz had stuck with his “vote your conscience” position. That focuses on staying true to what each person thinks is important, and that plays well in Texas. We don’t have to agree. But Cruz caved to the Trump coalition ‘s demand for loyalty and that showed he cared more about his job than his conscience.

    I understand why he did it and Cruz is much better than Beto, but Cruz is the same as Cornyn now. They are conservative in Texas when it is convenient but not as conservative in DC when it isn’t convenient. In that spirit, I will vote for Cruz if it is convenient to do so.

    DRJ (15874d)

  175. It’s the opposite of indoctrination, narciso. Texans aren’t stupid, and the GOP insulting the state won’t help its long term survival.

    The GOP lied to us for decades about its aspiration for budget sanity, or respect for our freedom, or its interest in integrity. The GOP nominating Trump for any office at all, let alone the Presidency, has opened our eyes a little wider than the RINO candidates like Romney and Mccain, but really it’s been a long time coming for voters to just stop buying the BS.

    You can get upset about the NYT… they surely deserve it most of the time, but they are 100% righteous to call the Trump administration’s talk of fiscal discipline a fraud.

    The sole thing working in the GOP’s favor for Texas is that the democrats are no better. Indeed, I am almost certain Cruz will be reelected over Beto, a guy who is out of step completely with my values. But I get it. Trump won’t be held to account by the GOP so …

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  176. “Thank you for asking. My “deal” is that you seem to be looking for ways to say that Cruz’s drop in the polls has nothing to do with Trump. You may be right from a macro perspective, but my micro experience suggests Trump has everything to do with Cruz’s sudden decrease in popularity in Texas.

    Trump is the reason the GOP won in 2016 in some unexpected Midwestern states. Take pleasure in that, but it’s not surprising that what plays well in some of those states does not play well in Texas.”

    DRJ (15874d) — 9/14/2018 @ 1:38 pm

    I mention potential for it, and it has been talked about by people far more knowledgeable. Yes, Trump may indeed have a negative affect, but at some point, Cruz needs to make the case for his re-election.

    What has O’Rourke accomplished, what are the qualities that make him worthy for the office? I can see people who would never vote for Cruz even if they witnessed him turning water into tequila voting for this unaccomplished free-spirit, but at some point, one must hold out hope that sanity will prevail. Especially considering what guys like him support.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  177. Apparently, all the Dems need to do in Texas is pray for rain in hopes that enough solid conservatives will find it more convenient to stay home and sit on their hands on Election Day.

    Remember teh Alamo!, my ass.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  178. “There’s this assumption that it’s the left wing political activists coming from California to Texas, and not ‘leaving behind’ their politics. Isn’t that the most mentally ill thing you could assume about these people?”

    One doesn’t need to be a “leftwing activist” – or from California – to vote for a Democrat at every opportunity. Even in Texas.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  179. I appreciate your concern for Texas, Haiku, but Don’t Mess With The Alamo.

    DRJ (15874d)

  180. LOL… I’ve been disappointed ever since I learned it had no basement.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  181. It’s also very possible that Trump supporters in Texas are still mad at Cruz for not being supportive enough, and they are the reason for the decline in his polls. That may be why Trump is coming to Texas for a Cruz rally. So maybe your ire is better aimed at those Trump supporters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  182. I wanted pompeo and Bolton as advisers, an end to the Rhodes road show, this entitlement to Abbas, you can vote for the green party for all I care.

    Narciso (2c8bee)

  183. I’ve been disappointed ever since I learned it had no basement.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7) — 9/14/2018 @ 2:18 pm

    Blame the Franciscans. They built it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  184. Sweet Jaysus, looking at the storm surge, high winds in Carolina thinking about what those unfortunate people are having to deal with reminded me of watching the TV shows that cover hunting for real estate and seeing great deals on beach front property and cool beach houses in many of the same places. Ouch.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  185. i love Ted Cruz he’s my #1 favorite Texas senator

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  186. Dustin

    Without knowing the circumstances and terms of the Waldorf Towers lease and without knowing how the GSA handles those types of transactions, there may be no breaking of the lease without incurring penalties.
    Even if Trump did break a legally binding agreement, wouldn’t that be the type of behavior that has been criticized here before?

    We don’t even know much about the curtains other than that they are motorized and over $50K.
    We don’t know if they are anti eavesdropping or whatever the hell… I’d like to chide Susan Rice for the spending, but I don’t know enough about the hows, whys and what fors to criticize her or Samantha Powers or Obama.

    There’s certain types of spending that are easy to cut, and others that are so damned tangled it takes time. I’d prefer to move the UN the heck out of our country except maybe the old adage to keep friends close and enemies nearer I’d let everyone else pay for the UN period.

    In my view, there’s lots of spending we can cut and are cutting… but even that costs money. For example moving BLM headquarters to Utah from DC. It’ll save money in the long haul, but the first year or two will probably show no return

    steveg (a9dcab)

  187. I wish Cruz had stuck with his “vote your conscience” position. That focuses on staying true to what each person thinks is important, and that plays well in Texas. We don’t have to agree. But Cruz caved to the Trump coalition ‘s demand for loyalty and that showed he cared more about his job than his conscience.

    Yep.

    His campaign called to hit me up for cash the other day (I donated a fair amount to him during the 2016 primaries). I’m not bankrolling any lackey of Donald Trump.

    Dave (445e97)

  188. Which lefty was it – Tillman? ConDave? – who was crowing about the Manafort plea deal and his cooperation?

    “Paul Manafort’s cooperation agreement with the special counsel does not include matters involving the Trump campaign, according to a person familiar with the case.”

    https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1040641168378347520

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  189. “So maybe your ire is better aimed at those Trump supporters.”

    I have no ire, I made a switch to IRAs about 7 or 8 years ago…

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  190. “There’s this assumption that it’s the left wing political activists coming from California to Texas, and not ‘leaving behind’ their politics. Isn’t that the most mentally ill thing you could assume about these people?”

    Take it from someone who rotates between three homes in three different states in the West, all of them non-urban. The locals just consider them Californians who are coming to change the way things are, from school indoctrination in social justice ridiculousness to gun control. They see what liberals have done to the greatest state in the union and they apply logic.

    The Occupy idiots in some of the city parks a few years back really woke them up, they thought brainless zombies trashing public property and being praised and excused and cleaned up after at taxpayers expense was something they’d only see on the news for a chuckle. Now they know that many Democrats support this insanity, especially many new arrivals.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  191. Colonel Haiku (3287d7) — 9/14/2018 @ 2:34 pm

    You should have kept reading:

    “Your client shall testify fully, completely and truthfully before any and all Grand Juries in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, and at any and all trials of cases or other court proceedings in the District of Columbia and elsewhere,” the plea agreement, which Manafort signed a day before, says.

    And:

    IMPORTANT NEW addition: plea agreement requires Manafort to cooperate “in any and all matter as to which the government deems the cooperation relevant” including full, complete testimony to the grand jury in DC

    CNN has had the story correct:

    After months of vowing to fight for his innocence, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort conceded to committing several federal crimes and agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department, including in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    Dave (445e97)

  192. So it was lefty ConDave…

    “CNN has had the story correct:“

    Prediction: this will be the 6th or 7th (in a row!) of the BIG scoops CNN had completely wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (3287d7)

  193. Mr. Manafort’s crime was working on the Trump campaign

    this is just how the sleazy corrupt gestapo FBI rolls anymore

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  194. So it was lefty ConDave…

    No, I pointed out that Mueller had recovered over twice the cost of his entire investigation from Manafort, but I didn’t say anything previously about cooperation.

    Dave (445e97)

  195. but every penny slicked-up nazi knob-polisher robert mueller has spent investigating russiacollusions has been a complete and total waste

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  196. but every penny nazi knob-polisher robert mueller has spent investigating russiacollusions has been a complete and total waste

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  197. “An earlier version of this article and headline created an unfair impression about who was responsible for the purchase in question. While Nikki R. Haley is the current ambassador to the United Nations, the decision on leasing the ambassador’s residence and purchasing the curtains was made during the Obama administration, but hey the original story has been copied and pasted and re-tweeted thousands of times and there are mid-terms to win.”

    Fixed

    If the Times is serious, the writer is gonezo, according to a few sources this is not the first instance they’ve had to issue a correction for one of his/her smears.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  198. but every penny nazi knob-polisher robert mueller has spent investigating russiacollusions has been a complete and total waste

    you can’t say that anymore. every penny Mueller spent has returned more than two pennies to the Treasury!

    He’s single-handedly paying off the national debt while kicking Putin and his poodle where it hurts!

    We can’t afford NOT to let Mueller continue his investigation! He’ll probably wring enough cash out of sleazy Javanka to pay for Haley’s curtains, and then some.

    #winning

    Dave (445e97)

  199. there may be no breaking of the lease without incurring penalties.

    Steveg, like DRJ you’ve raised a great point. Perhaps our Trump administration just can’t break these extremely expensive and insultingly lavish things. They should show us their written efforts to cancel the drapes and end the lease. At any rate, you’re right that there will be plenty of things they could cut… but it wouldn’t yield instant savings.

    In my view, there’s lots of spending we can cut and are cutting… but even that costs money. For example moving BLM headquarters to Utah from DC. It’ll save money in the long haul, but the first year or two will probably show no return

    steveg (a9dcab) — 9/14/2018 @ 2:24 pm

    Indeed you are right. But because I see the opposite, because I see the Trump administration, and yes, Haley, living the good life as much as they can get away with, with no shame, I think the NYT had a fair criticism here, and the only real problem with it is that they didn’t also point out the Obama administration similar record.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  200. this kind of flagrant fake news from the KKK New York Times underscores how cowardly it is when unprincipled trash like sarah palin and scott pruitt allow themselves to be bullied out of their offices

    it just emboldens the kkk nyt fake news operations

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  201. every penny Mueller spent has returned more than two pennies to the Treasury!

    no this is incorrect

    the sleazy gestapo fbi has damaged the earnings ability of dozens of innocent people already, which will drastically reduce their ability to pay taxes, in many cases for decades to come

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  202. And yet, for some reason, Mueller and the feds consider Podesta’s millions to be off limits. Clearly they’re not reaping the full ROI on this. They must be guided by pure motives. No other explanation.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/13/manafort-podesta-emails-lobbying-823868

    Munroe (fb9278)

  203. Podesta plays for the same team. No point going after him.

    Imagine what they could do to the Clintons if they were so inclined.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  204. And yet, for some reason, Mueller and the feds consider Podesta’s millions to be off limits.

    Sadly, both you and Dana are right. There’s a lot of bias out there. Same people who care about one campaign payoff do not care about another. As soon as the NYT realized this horrible and wasteful spending was the Obama admin’s idea, they didn’t want to talk about it.

    But bias alone doesn’t mean misconduct is OK.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  205. because podesta was likely the link man for the ‘peregrushka’ why Poland lost an entire cabinet, with nary a word, why their missile defenses were cut back, why james comey blamed them from the concentration camps, why the Donbass was taken for a song, why the shootdown of the Malaysian jet liner, raised little actual retaliation,

    narciso (d1f714)

  206. Wait who shot down that jet liner? It wasn’t Trump’s BFF was it?

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  207. Found it – wasn’t fired the first time.

    How’s it go???? “Fool me once…..”
    __ _

    Noah Pollak
    @NoahPollak
    Name of author of today’s ludicrous NYT smear job on Nikki Haley,
    @GardinerHarris
    , rang a bell. Back in May he wrote a ludicrous smear job on FDD’s
    @mdubowitz
    . Corrections almost ran longer than the original piece. Lectures on truth and accountability from the NYT are a farce.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  208. people need to just accept that the catholic church is what it is and there’s always been and always will be a lil child molestation going on in the background

    a leopard can’t change its spots

    unless it goes through a rigorous spot-changing process

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  209. Oh this Podesta talk (and Tucker Carlson talk in the other thread) reminded me of this tweet:
    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1021494107015983106

    “Our sources maintain that Tony Podesta has been offered immunity to testify in Paul Manafort’s criminal trial in D.C. regarding criminal FARA violations.” – Tucker Carlson

    This was Tucker doubling down after it was shown that Podesta didn’t get immunity for the VA trial.

    Now the D.C trial isn’t going to happen, thanks to Manafort’s plea deal, which makes it likely that Tucker was lying.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  210. no it has to do with the mainstreaming of deviant behavior,

    https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1040686327350607872

    narciso (d1f714)

  211. blue texas – red california

    mg (8cbc69)

  212. New York Magazine to NYTimes:

    ‘Hold our beer’

    New York Magazine
    @NYMag
    There are eerie similarities in the behavior of the right-wing politicians who facilitated both Hitler’s and Trump’s rise to power.

    TDS is strong in these ones.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  213. Tucker got the Podesta thing wrong. That means he was lying, in the same way those that pushed the “Zina Bash is trolling with a white supremist symbol” were lying.

    On the other hand, Podesta is still skating last time I checked.

    Munroe (a5ea96)

  214. If you were offered $100, does that mean you received $100?

    BuDuh (784fab)

  215. Lol

    Allahpundit
    @allahpundit
    Today has been one of the more garbage days on this garbage platform in a long while. And amazingly, Trump had zero to do with it.

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  216. I would be surprised if they went after either Craig or podesta

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/14/strzok-text-message-trump-interviews/

    narciso (d1f714)

  217. getting rid of filthy state department trash like Patrick Kennedy is a huge win for America

    you know who’s probably super butthurt about it is sleazy democrat weirdo Jim Mattis though

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  218. i can’t believe that dog on Drudge is still sitting there

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  219. so sleazy fbi lick-boy Robert Mueller stole all of Mr. Manafort’s money today

    that’s pretty much how Putin does it in Russia huh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  220. Berezovsky might say That, but you might want to wait to get his point of view, he died in 2013

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  221. maybe he only died like how the puerto ricans did in the GWU study and he’s really still alive

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  222. No, he is most assuredly not alive, the circumstances are suspicious though.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  223. NJRob, I’m getting plenty of air, thanks. And you’re one of the people (of whom I see many on other sites) who seem to be obsessed with trying to slap down anything even marginally critical of Trump. And usually the response is with insults more than facts. Why does it bother some people so very much if others don’t think Trump is as great and faultless as Trump believes he is?

    A big rallying cry in his favor in the campaign was “He says whatever he thinks, and doesn’t care what anyone else thinks about it!” So it’s quite remarkable that his fans get so offended when people say what they think about Trump. And that started early in the primaries, long before the “But Hillary” defense made any sense at all.

    Radegunda (07ace3) — 9/14/2018 @ 11:16 am

    I’m not trying to smack anything down. I’m reminding you that you’ve gone off topic and once again trying to make the topic President Trump.

    Try reminding yourself the Times was dishonest yet again. Remind yourself of that the next time you quote them.

    And then remind yourself that they aren’t the best source for objective media.

    NJRob (b00cf4)

  224. That’s why Mueller revoked his bail with trumped-up witness tampering charges. To lock him up and demoralize him so he would plead guilty. Pre-trial detention is a very powerful prosecutorial weapon.

    nk (dbc370)

  225. They couldnt get a Africa, so Mueller doubled judge and prosecutor.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  226. that’s pretty much how Putin does it in Russia huh

    Actually, that’s not how Putin does it. Whatsoever. It’s why the Russian dictator has a whole squadron of pet oligarchs. They make their billions and Putin gets his quiet slice in exchange for their doing business there. The ones who don’t comply somehow fall out of windows.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  227. Silica, as Renata Adler related.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  228. Brin Dorsey zuckerberg bezos tomato, tomatoe.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  229. Or did you miss that confab in 2016, it was mentioned in the news, they wiped out Cambridge analytica because it challenged their world view.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  230. No they dont need to kill you, they use the irs or osha or the doj, thats how they kneecapped the tea party.

    Narciso (a3f4e8)

  231. Sean Spicier
    @sean_spicier
    Climate lunatics—
    Yesterday: “It’s a 4! It’s a 4! It’s a 4!”
    •downgraded to a 2•
    Today: “Stop focusing on the number, idiot! We’re still gonna die…eventually”

    harkin (fb7ea4)

  232. John Kerry has proven the Logan Act will never be enforced.
    Very sad.

    mg (8cbc69)

  233. John Kerry has proven the Logan Act will never be enforced.

    219 years of history has demonstrated that it will never be enforced. There’ve only been two indictments, the last one happening in 1852, neither of which resulted in convictions. And it’s probably unconstitutional regardless.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  234. Jeffrey Goldberg
    @JeffreyGoldberg
    People on this website are mocking the
    @nytimes
    for this (dramatic) correction, but they’re missing the point: this is an example of a journalism organization holding itself accountable:
    __ _

    Stephen Miller
    @redsteeze
    Nah. It’s another example of shameless biased hit job that always seems to only go one direction.

    Not a single editor thought about it before hitting publish. You don’t get a prize here.

    harkin (7f4688)

  235. every American should have the rights John Kerry is afforded.

    mg (8cbc69)

  236. I’m reminding you that you’ve gone off topic and once again trying to make the topic President Trump.

    Well I appreciate the point you’re attempting to make. In my opinion, the actions of the executive branch, such as ambassadors and the state department, are in some way (in fact a large way) accountable to Trump. The buck stops there. This is important because not only is Trump responsible for the continued use of this very, very expensive pad, he made a contrary promise to greatly reduce spending. Trump’s grand promises exceeded the more realistic ones of his competitors, and Trump won the presidency on the weight of his grand promises. Now he isn’t even attempting to keep them.

    Try reminding yourself the Times was dishonest yet again. Remind yourself of that the next time you quote them.

    You have dishonestly mischaracterized my position. My very first comment about this post referenced how the NYT frames stories solely for partisan benefit. I repeated this point many times. Just because the NYT is indeed a hack outlet doesn’t mean Trump didn’t break his promise to cut spending. In fact, the NYT is just one side of a coin, and there are two sides that dishonestly spin everything just to deny accountability.

    You’re wrong on this story on a number of levels, and this is why you wanted to make this a personal discussion about me, the way you tend to do. Next time, remember your problem in this area and try harder to talk about the issues.

    Here’s the real, core issue: wasteful spending. Obama’s administration did it with the drapes. Trump’s administration did it too, probably with the drapes by not attempting to cancel them, but also on a much larger level with everything else in this apartment, including the need for such a place. I don’t care if the wasteful spending is from ‘my’ side or ‘their’ side because I don’t have a side. Obama did not promise to balance the budget, but Trump did, so at least as a matter of integrity, Trump’s sin is worse in my book. And yes, that remains true even if Fox News and the New York Times are shilling away, night and day. To you, the issue is fake news, to me the issue is the issue.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  237. Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor in Chief at the Atlantic, tweeted about the New York Times backpedal at the Haley/curtains article :

    People on this website are mocking the @nytimes for this (dramatic) correction, but they’re missing the point: this is an example of a journalism organization holding itself accountable:

    This is yet another stunning example of arrogance, and demonstrates just how insular and smug journalists are: he is applauding his people for their high standards of accountability and earnest effort to make something right that was clearly wrong in the first place. Readers everywhere on the internet were quick to see the problem with the article from the get-go. This would include non-journalists. So if the average Joe caught it right away, what does that say about the author and layers of fact-checkers and editors? If they had been honestly doing their job, they would not have printed it with that paragraph in it. Which leads to the glaringly obvious point: they intentionally published it to smear Haley. Which is an even bigger problem than needing to make a correction. The question Goldberg – an editor in chief of a big media outlet – refuses to ask, and answer is, why did they need to make the correction in the first place?

    Dana (023079)

  238. The lie traveled around the world twice before the half-assed correction was made. Think of all that was left unsaid. The media will do its best to ignore any info that will portray Democrats in a bad light.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  239. it’s also worth pointing out that dirty lickboy jack dorsey and his grody nose ring didn’t lift a finger when the KKK NYT flooded twitter with their fake news about Nikki

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  240. This is yet another stunning example of arrogance, and demonstrates just how insular and smug journalists are: he is applauding his people for their high standards of accountability and earnest effort to make something right that was clearly wrong in the first place.

    He did not (at least in the bit you quoted) defend the original mistake.

    If nobody ever made mistakes, there would be no need for accountability. Accountability implies that somebody screwed up.

    Given that, the question seems to me: is it better to admit and correct the mistake, or to follow the Donald Trump model and double-down on it indefinitely?

    A week ago, Patrick, by his own admission, also made a mistake and held himself accountable for it. Many of us (properly in my view) gave him credit for frankly admitting it, and doing what he could, after the fact, to set the record straight. I doubt that you would call that “another stunning example of arrogance” on the part of those of us who thought Patrick did the right thing.

    One might argue that Patrick has a better track record and his mistake was less egregious. Be that as it may, it is alleged by many that journalists knowingly lie constantly. Yet in cases where they they are clearly in error, as here, we frequently see journalists correct mistakes, while those making the “fake news” charges never, ever correct their own (thousands of) false claims.

    It is better not to make mistakes in the first place, but when mistakes are made, I claim it is always better to correct them than not.

    Dave (445e97)

  241. If nobody ever made mistakes, there would be no need for accountability. Accountability implies that somebody screwed up.

    they always screw up in the same direction though

    “mistakes” would go in both directions

    so i don’t think what the KKK NYT is doing is “making mistakes”

    they’re running a soviet-style propaganda mill

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  242. “they always screw up in the same direction though”

    Funny, that…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  243. Couldn’t you say the same about Fox News, hf? We’re human so we all have biases.

    DRJ (15874d)

  244. Yeah, Tucker Carlson and Ace of Spades are at the same level as the NYT when it comes to being hacks. I guess to the average joe, the NYT has more credibility, but they are the same.

    Similarly, many partisans will get really upset about the NYT but don’t seem to mind the hacks in their tribe. In fact, they will completely ignore the issue and want to talk about how bad the other side’s hack is… In other words they are doing the very thing they pretend to have a problem with.

    The issue is lavish spending, right? That’s what the Obamadrapes are about. But she’s living in this lavish apartment today. Trump is taking how many vacation days? How many rounds of golf? The deficit is where exactly?

    The NYT isn’t the problem at all.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  245. The media will do its best to ignore any info that will portray Democrats in a bad light.

    That right there is the core disagreement. That’s what Trump keeps lying about. If this were true, Trump wouldn’t be the president right now. The media isn’t centralized anymore. Dana is the media. Hell, you and I are the media. Russian bots on facebook are the media. Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson are the media.

    Dana made a great point, but in the NYT’s hacktastic coverage, they raised a legitimate issue. If there wasn’t any truth in there, the greater lies don’t work. Yes, the drapes were ordered in 2016. But the real issue is that our executive branch lives large on our dime. That’s worthy of the condemnation, but the NYT only wants to condemn Trump, and a lot of Trump’s media only want to condemn Obama.

    Any time Trump is caught doing something wrong or dishonest, and I 100% count this story as a great example of Trump’s dishonesty, the defense is media bias and fake news. But Trump promised us a balanced budget and this story is a great demonstration of his efforts to keep his word.

    They should have attempted to cancel all Obama era overspending, especially this stuff, and if refused by vendors shown us. If you’re broke you try to stop spending money.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  246. It’s curtains for Haley? Build a wall.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  247. If Mexico has to pay for the wall, it only makes sense for NYC to pay for the drapes.

    Let’s make a deal, Mr. Greatest Negotiator Who Ever Lived…

    Dave (445e97)

  248. @2. You need to catchup; he’s married to the former Theresa Heinz who brought a lot of her own condiments to the family picnic.

    DCSCA (797bc0)


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