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8/2/2018

Kevin Williamson Responds

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:13 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Responding to the New York Times’ decision to hire Sarah Jeong, in spite of her ugly tweets, and his name being invoked in the ensuing debate, Kevin Williamson had this to say:

I assume that the editors of the Times knew exactly who and what Jeong was when they hired her. If not, then it isn’t Jeong who needs to be fired — it’s the negligent people who hired her.

If, on the other hand, the Times is more or less satisfied with Jeong, then it should resist the social-media mob campaign to have her dismissed. It is up to institutions to hold the line against mass hysteria and the mob mentality of social media. I don’t know much of anything about James Gunn, the director fired from the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise for making a bunch of ghastly jokes, but I do know that Marvel Studios can and should say: “We’ll hire who we want.” Marvel and the New York Times have the resources and the standing to stand up to this kind of social-media scalp collecting: All they need is the guts. I hope the Times has enough. Berkeley didn’t. ABC didn’t. Google didn’t. A few book publishers I can think of haven’t.

I’ve heard some people on the right say, “If Kevin Williamson has to get fired by the Atlantic, then Sarah Jeong has to get fired by the New York Times.” The Times can hire and fire whomever it likes — but not in my name. I’m sure that many of the people invoking my experience are well-meaning friends, but I’ll thank them to leave me out of this.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

183 Responses to “Kevin Williamson Responds”

  1. This is post-worthy. Good for Williamson.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Good for Williamson is right.

    I hope that Sarah turns her bile on Pinch at her first opportunity. Otherwise she’s a racist AND a hypocrite.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  3. yeah i remember this blog being all like

    hey CPAC

    don’t fire Milo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Kevin Williamson just won’t give up on trying to wangle invitations to Michael York’s cocktail parties.
    — Willem!
    — Dafoe!

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Great article by David French at National Review.

    [T]o indulge at all the notion that injustice, even systematic injustice, can excuse or legitimize hatred against a class or group of Americans is to open Pandora’s Box. I’ve seen it argued across the breadth of the Web that anti-white sentiment is a legitimate and understandable response to the actions of white people and “white” power structures. But think about this argument. Veterans of our Middle Eastern wars have seen jihadist horrors on a scale that most Americans can’t comprehend. Is it a legitimate response for a veteran to go on a Twitter screed about “canceling” Arabs or calling them “groveling goblins”? Should a white victim of a black criminal draw conclusions about black people more generally? Even if he can point to disproportionate levels of violent crime?

    Of course not. A healthy society urges people to reject unhealthy temptations to generalize, and instead urges that we treat our fellow citizens with a degree of grace and to judge them based on their individual actions. Any categorical hatred or disgust stands directly against this virtue. So, yes, anti-white racism is real, and Americans can and should reject it while still keeping in mind matters of gravity and proportion.

    Are we really so far gone that we can’t condemn taking “joy” in being “cruel” to another person on the basis of their race? It’s time to understand a fundamental truth: The denigration of human beings — yes, including white human beings — works its own harm.

    Read the whole thing.

    Dave (445e97)

  6. The only “injustices” Koreans have suffered at the hands of white Americans are USDA inspections.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. york’s a born again Christian, now nk, Williamson, keeps expecting morale to improve, so the beatings will stop, so ed Norton’s Nazi hacker is her penpal,

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. The other editors at the NYT were planning to surprise her with a traditional Korean dinner to welcome her aboard. But somebody let the cat out of the bag.

    nk (dbc370)

  9. the anointed cannot have fault

    http://fortune.com/2018/08/03/sarah-jeong/

    narciso (d1f714)

  10. so you expect outrage, no they have internalized it, justified it, from four years ago from ten,

    narciso (d1f714)

  11. narc:

    So what’s the right thing here? Chase this woman from the internet based on tweets that were offered up without context? And attempt to generalize the whole thing into a “see, see”? Mr. Trump (peace be upon him) said these people were the enemy of the people!! And they are!!! At least the enemy of the White People!

    Me — if somebody apologizes, I would like to see them actually apologize. (She didn’t, really, say she posted something she didn’t agree with.) But Williamson’s post shows character…not a desire to have a T&T at a Georgetown cocktail party with Soros.

    Internet mobs are bad. Internet mobs stink, even when you own the libs. Repeat that to yourself every now and then.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  12. Bad for Williamson. He’s saying he accepts that there are different rules for different animals.

    NJRob (2f37d5)

  13. This kind of thing can create a fertile field for blackmail.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  14. by the standards they have imposed she should resign, but you miss the point, they won’t even acknowledge she did wrong, this is why we ignore every ‘outrage’ that you find so absorbing,

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. Sarah Jeong responds:

    That’s just the sort of thing a stupid white male goblin would say as he shields his inferiority from the sun. #CancelWhitePeople

    Dejectedhead (f376b4)

  16. I agree with her that the decision, re the particulars in elonis was flawed, the prosecution of a rapper was a waste of resources, there wasn’t anything else coherent in her rants,

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. David French at National Review.

    Should a white victim of a black criminal draw conclusions about black people more generally? Even if he can point to disproportionate levels of violent crime?

    Maybe not, and especially not to carry it doown to the individual level, but then they shouldn’t do this with regaad to illegal aliens also, and Donald Trump is actively promoting that kind of thinking

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-victims-illegal-alien-crime

    •The Trump Administration created the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office in order to support the victims and families affected by illegal alien crime.

    He has done this without getting any kind of condemenation from National Review. He’s getting it from Democrats, but it is kind of muted.

    And the thing is, it’s not even true.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622540331/fact-check-trump-illegal-immigration-and-crime

    While any death is tragic, a February 2018 study by the Cato Institute using 2015 crime statistics from Texas found immigrants in the country illegally were 25 percent less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans. ( Legal immigrants were 87 percent less likely.)

    Continuing:

    A healthy society urges people to reject unhealthy temptations to generalize, and instead urges that we treat our fellow citizens
    with a degree of grace and to judge them based on their individual actions.

    B ut only citizens? Then what about his next sentence?

    Any categorical hatred or disgust stands directly against this virtue.

    Any categorical hatred or disgust?

    It’s time to understand a fundamental truth: The denigration of human beings — yes, including white human beings — works its own harm.

    Even against illegal immmigrants?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  18. Sammy, it’s not necessary to “denigrate” anyone or treat them with hatred or disgust to enforce the law. It is normal to feel revulsion toward people guilty of the worst crimes (murder, rape, child abuse, etc) but part of being a citizen in a free society is keeping your personal impulses in check, to remain within the law.

    By the same token, we train our military to respect the basic dignity of enemies they are engaged against and may take captive. Because to do otherwise would make our military less professional, less disciplined and less capable.

    Dehumanizing other people has the inevitable effect of also dehumanizing those who do it.

    Dave (445e97)

  19. It is not virtuous for virtue signallers to dictate what virtue is.

    Ed from SFV (6d42fa)

  20. I’d rather see die weissvolk of the NYT have a cosplay day where they all dress up in either Ninja or Shaolin monk getups and try to bait her into a showdown.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  21. You mean like mortal combat, the movie, or part of the whole arc of video game adaptations.

    Narciso (191564)

  22. Either of those would work, though in her own warped mind, she hopes the outcome is like this.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  23. “155,965,000 Employed in June”

    It’s just like 1930’s Germany

    /sarc

    harkin (b524bb)

  24. “He’s saying he accepts that there are different rules for different animals.”

    – NJRob

    He’s actually saying the opposite of that. This is obvious to anyone willing to do the analysis.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  25. 21. Dave (445e97) — 8/3/2018 @ 8:20 am

    Sammy, it’s not necessary to “denigrate” anyone or treat them with hatred or disgust to enforce the law.

    Yes it is, because it has very bad adverse consequences to the person against whom the law is being enforced. If it was a parking ticket, maybe not so, but for this kind of thing, yes. Otherwise it violates the golden rule.

    And in any case, Donald Trump and others seem to think it neceesary.

    It is normal to feel revulsion toward people guilty of the worst crimes (murder, rape, child abuse, etc) but part of being a citizen in a free society is keeping your personal impulses in check, to remain within the law.

    That is mostly true.

    By the same token, we train our military to respect the basic dignity of enemies they are engaged against and may take captive. Because to do otherwise would make our military less professional, less disciplined and less capable.

    That is a principle of the military.

    It is not so true of jail guards.

    Dehumanizing other people has the inevitable effect of also dehumanizing those who do it.

    I think Martin Luter King said something of the same nature too.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  26. This is why the discussion of “principles” goes nowhere with Trump’s supporters: they don’t know the meaning of the word.

    Here’s an example of a stated principle: “It is up to institutions to hold the line against mass hysteria and the mob mentality of social media.”

    Notice: no reference to political preference!

    (This is often a helpful clue re: what is or is not a principle)

    Leviticus (efada1)

  27. Left unsaid, the person who has singlehandedly thrown the most people under the bus due to mass hysteria and mob mentality in the last couple of years is Mr. President, Donald J. Trump.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. On the other hand, he is also the one who has thrived the most in that time from feeding on mass hysteria and mob mentality.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. I wish Trump could toss all the slimy republicans under the bus.

    mg (9e54f8)

  30. But wait, there’s more. At the best of times, I take Kevin Williamson with a grain of salt and a pronounced sneer. Just because he calls it mass hysteria and mob mentality, why should we? Why shouldn’t we call it political correctness and virtue signalling with a side of tribalism?

    nk (dbc370)

  31. He’s actually saying the opposite of that. This is obvious to anyone willing to do the analysis.

    Leviticus (efada1) — 8/3/2018 @ 9:09 am

    Of course you’d claim that. But it denies reality. Your leftists continue to ramp up their aggression and try and destroy anyone that doesn’t fall in line.

    Williamson said he doesn’t agree with it, but won’t do the same. Nor will he do anything to stop it.

    Reagan understood. MAD is the only way to ensure the most rabid do not use the weapons available to them. Till the left is punished the same way they punish others, they will never learn.

    The racist hired by the Times proves as much.

    NJRob (b00189)

  32. I left this comment at the jury. I think it’s a good starting point for any discussion concerning Trump and the media and other subjects by extension:

    Of course Trump needs to keep them agitated and angry. It’s how he got elected. Trump is nothing if not a master manipulator. The same goes for the media. They need Trump supporters equally as agitated and angry in order to do all their virtue signalling, point the finger and lay blame, as well as cry wounded foul (while ignoring their own fat fingers pointing back at their guilty selves).
    This is how they justify their righteous indignation. Both Trump and the media are the same. And this is why they have such a sick, symbiotic relationship.

    Dana (023079)

  33. the racism the New York Times is endorsing is vastly more vicious and virulent in nature than anything Roseanne ever tweeted

    that should be noted I think

    but you know who’s a virulent anti-white bigot too?

    Kevin Williamson

    so this is all very strange

    i guess you should expect a certain amount of solidarity

    but I’d also think you’d expect these bigots to be more subtle about it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. Sarah Jeong: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know – source, Heavy.com

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/sarah-jeong

    In 2013, the twit spit some acid toward Walter White’s base, too: “I just realized why I can’t stand watching Breaking Bad or Battlestar Galactica. The premise of both is just “white people being miserable.” – 11:42 AM 9 Aug., 2013

    Bring the rest of the board some coffee, dear.

    “Tread lightly.” – Walter White [Bryan Cranston] ‘Breaking Bad’ AMC TV, 2008-2013

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  35. @36. In what might be considered as Mike Murphy’s only reasonable suggestion in over a decade (and for free,) the GOP strategist advised the media to stop being a ready-made-foil for the Trump Act and simply start cover his rallies w/a pool reporter and only a few cameras similar to how they cover staged WH events.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  36. No I would say that was the premise of the walking dead; where one rooted for the zombies

    Narciso (fc2742)

  37. http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/03/nyt-sarah-jeong-cop-men-tweets/

    She wants to kill the police and all men as well.

    She’ll fit in perfectly with the left commentary and the Timmes target democraphic.

    NJRob (b00189)

  38. She wants to kill the police and all men as well.

    oh.

    Kevin Williamson just wants white communities to die not individuals per se and not cops specifically.

    The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. The white American under-class is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. Shorter Sarah Jeong is a racist, straight up, and the NY Times is guilty of not only defending her perverted in-your-face racist filth, but also of providing the bigoted blowhard with a prominent paid position in the pages of the most influential newspaper in America to spew her self-gratifying sadistic brand of racist bilge.

    Clearly, Jeong’s a particularly ugly racist guttersnipe, and she has no more place in any dicussion of “principles” than a Grand Dragon of the Golden Knights.

    ropelight (7d6b16)

  40. 40.No I would say that was the premise of the walking dead; where one rooted for the zombies

    Zombies… kinship whines the Colludin’ Cuban.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  41. I was more a fan of old school battlestar, maybe maren Jensen Jane Seymour, and even Anne Lockhart had something to do with it, the nihilism if the new version didn’t appeal.

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. 20. 21. 28.

    Among the worst lies Trump has said was this kind of thing:

    “Republicans want strong borders and no crime; Democrats want open borders, which equals massive crime.”

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  43. That is not racism. It is something else.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  44. “Republicans want strong borders and no crime; Democrats want open borders, which equals massive crime.”

    yes yes yes republicans do not want strong borders

    pedophile Mitt Romney’s slicked-up little boy toy Paul Ryan in particular

    but the democrats are even more extreme in their list for open borders

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. oopers *lust* for open borders i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  46. Well the money men and consultants can’t imagine any other view pikachu.

    narciso (d1f714)

  47. the only way you can (re-)build a pro-immigration consensus going forward is by establishing and maintaining strong border security policies

    this is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis

    if you try to cheat it like sex toy Paul Ryan and cowardly navy turd John McCain, all you do is empower anti-immigration activisms

    it’s very self-defeating

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  48. You know, the two day hate on the NYT’s hire is all based on tweets. You should take a look at her full body of work. I wonder if the NYT looked at this

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/04/new-york-times-columnists-harsh-our-mellow

    Appalled (1a17de)

  49. Well that was the standard with roseann and williamson no, we didn’t make up this silly crimethink rule.

    narciso (d1f714)

  50. happyfeet’s killing it today, and whats more, Leviticus took one of his trademark phrases at #27 upthread.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  51. narciso —

    The rule is stupid. But intoxicating to amateur internet sleuths who can always find something. Problem here is that the stuff that is used as exhibit #1 was ripped out of context. And most of y’all are having sport because, it’s fun to have sport. And showing yourselves as the sort of word that would put me in moderation.

    I reserve my speacial wrath for those who put Atlanta pitcher Sean Newcomb in this kind of a position hours after the guy nearly pitches a no-hitter. The Navajo believe that when you die, the good in you goes, an all the evil inside you sticks around as a ghost. I sometimes think the internet does the same thing to people.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  52. Like I say I would rather they admit that she is wrong, which I don’t see except in the most oblique ways, maybe the fact that associated with weev is a final straw.

    But her job at verge was to purge any reactionary sentiment in video games, whereas castle wolfenstein where Reagan is portrayed as a Nazi tool, that’s just fine.

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. I never knew Kevin Williamson was a fat, cue ball bald guy who wears two earrings.

    I thought he was from Texas.

    Colonel Haiku (4e13ba)

  54. Now we find out that she also hates cops and has been tweeting about them for several years–were they trolling her too?

    Rochf (877dba)

  55. CNN breaking news! Roger stone about to be indicted for being father of n.y. madams baby!

    wendell (b34fe6)

  56. “The Times can hire and fire whomever it likes — but not in my name. I’m sure that many of the people invoking my experience are well-meaning friends, but I’ll thank them to leave me out of this.”

    In other words, Kevin Williamson continues and takes pride in his career the Most Useless Party For Any Useful Political Action. Much like his magazine!

    “So what’s the right thing here? Chase this woman from the internet based on tweets that were offered up without context?”

    ‘WITHOUT CONTEXT’ is the ‘WHATABOUTISM’ that liberals immediately run to like a security blanket when their hand is caught in the casual racism jar.

    The context they gave (unconvincingly) was that she was STICKING IT TO THE PRIVILEGED HILLBILLIES, of which the Harvard alumnus and beneficiary of affirmative action for a technical ‘minority’ (despite that minority having greater educational, financial and social attainment than most of the majority population, and part of the population very well known for ethnic networking on the side.)

    What’s actually true: The New York Times knew and approved at the time, the explanation is a fig leaf for a board of people who socially benefit from a wide platform for casual anti-white racism. As do most of their readers. They’ve all found each other.

    It doesn’t wash. She gets fired for cause or The Failing NYT gets both boycotted and treated as a pariah source by all other newspapers.

    She also absolutely deserves all the future anti-Chinese racism that will no doubt be directed at her, at least at the level of her previous tweets.

    More Kevin being dumb and shameful:

    “it isn’t Jeong who needs to be fired — it’s the negligent people who hired her.

    If, on the other hand, the Times is more or less satisfied with Jeong, then it should resist the social-media mob campaign to have her dismissed. It is up to institutions to hold the line against mass hysteria and the mob mentality of social media.”

    The New York Times, which bot-boosts columns from the execrable Charles Blow and Thomas Friedman, is one of the PRIMARY INSTIGATORS AND PRIMARY LEADERS of the mob mentality! Kevin Williamson is the proverbial battered wife (well, mistress, really) who sticks up for a blatantly abusive husband because she wants to feel powerful through him and have him destroy her shared enemies!

    Kevin is committing the sin of omission, The NYT committing the sin of commission, they’re both deplorable, they should both be shunned by anyone who claims to be a man of principle and consistency.

    Steppe Nomad (e6f6da)

  57. “In the uproar over Sarah Jeong’s hiring by the New York Times, the focus on her history of hateful rhetoric against white people overlooked her many other expressions of hatred — toward males, Christians and police officers, among others. While her new employers have apparently accepted Ms. Jeong’s disingenuous excuse that she was “engaged in what I thought of at the time as counter-trolling… intended as satire,” this cannot explain away her demonstrable habit of deliberately insulting entire groups of people. It is not true, as she claimed, that she merely “mimicked the language of my harassers.”

    Consider, for example, Ms. Jeong’s oft-expressed contempt for Christians, including her own parents. She “grew up in a conservative evangelical Christian bubble,” but “became an annoying atheist” as a teenager, when she was “trapped in a fundamentalist Christian school.” After attending the University of California-Berkeley and graduating from Harvard Law, Ms. Jeong pronounced herself a member of the “educated left wing elite.” She says she has now “mostly cut myself off from the conservative evangelical community,” and condemns Christians who “indoctrinate children” with “reality-denying belief systems.” Ms. Jeong’s spiteful denunciation of her parents’ faith was not “counter-trolling,” nor was it “intended as satire.” These anti-Christian remarks appear to express her sincere beliefs, no different from her many similar expressions of contempt for other groups.

    Police? “Cops f—king suck” and “they’re f—king horrible,” according to this Harvard Law alumna, who hates the men and women whose job is to enforce the law. She responded to the 2014 race riot in Ferguson, Missouri, by aiming obscenities at the police and declaring “America is f—king racist.” This rhetoric was not a response to harassment, nor was Ms. Jeong “mimicking” anyone as “satire.” Her anti-police sentiments, like her anti-Christian sentiments, are evidently sincere. These opinions are endorsed by her new employers, who share the same “educated left wing elite” worldview. It’s doubtful the New York Times would hire anyone who wasn’t a cop-hating atheist.

    Ms. Jeong has routinely expressed her total contempt for males. In August 2014, she tweeted, “Men are too f–king emotional to be let out in public. Jesus Christ,” and followed that with, “Yo. Men. Just get off Twitter. Every man. All of you. You can’t handle this sh—.” She has repeatedly said “all men are garbage.” ‘

    https://spectator.org/it-wasnt-just-a-few-tweets/

    Colonel Haiku (4e13ba)

  58. Yes, this Jeong lady seems crazy and hateful but I don’t care. These mobs of people trying to get people fired are no different from Jeong. The need to hurt others must have some evolutionary origin but it’s fundamentally irrational to make yourself so miserable because someone hurt your feelings.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  59. These mobs of people trying to get people fired are no different from Jeong.

    well yeah

    she did a ton of tweets trying to get people fired

    it’s one of her other things besides racism

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. happyfeet, it’s one of her things because she is angry. Even with what I assume is a lot of success in her professional life, she is miserable.

    People making themselves miserable trying to destroy other people… well that’s just not something we should get too amped up about. Justice is served already. Self destruction works that way in my opinion.

    But there is a valuable lesson. a lot of people have a problem with the ‘other side’ doing this. Then they do it too. I guess these people don’t have a stake in the real problems around them, and need to create some drama. This is anger over words on twitter and in a newspaper. Just words. If you don’t like them, don’t read them.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  61. She was indoctrinated into being angry, what is the BBC fortune and others excuse, who rationalize her behavior?

    Narciso (9fd7e1)

  62. number one you shouldn’t be on the twitter ever your whole life it’s a sewer and nothing good happens on twitter

    number two is i think it’s easy to confuzzle people who think it’s to point out double standards and rank hypocrisy with people what want to get people fired, but there’s a difference

    look at Joy Reid – an msnbc lick-lick who passionately and proudly hates gay people for example… and compare her with Brendan Eich who did not like gay marriage but had no record of the kind of vidcious bigotry displayed by msnbc’s joy reid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. oopers i meant *vicious*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. Justice is served already

    is it though?

    people are forgetting this isn’t without consequence – how the NYT hiring a vile racist has consequences

    how many people today had to make a choice between giving a job or an opportunity to a young-ish asian girl-person or a non-asian person

    i have no idea but for sure there were some

    and among the people that were exposed to this vicious ugly hateful new york time racism, do you think it maybe affected their decision?

    it sure could have huh?

    all it would take is for that candidate to remind them just a little of this hateful new york times racist lady

    they may not even be aware that their decision was influenced!

    but this stuff works on the same principles as all other consumer choices, and there’s no question there’s an impact

    albeit an unmeasurable one

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. oops this vicious ugly hateful *new york times* racism i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  66. FWIW, I always felt the NYT having Charles Blow around caused people to diminish the contributions of pioneer rapper Kurtis Blow (The Breaks, Basketball).

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  67. No, teh young lady shouldn’t be fired, she and the NYT should be thanked for their shining example of journolistic standards and propriety.

    Colonel Haiku (4e13ba)

  68. Rico should be used against Mueller and his team of maggots.

    mg (b5c960)

  69. if you get your news from National Soros Radio you have no effing idea this hateful NYT racist lady even exists

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  70. you might have heard a little something about that one tweet roseanne did while she was on ambien though

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  71. If, on the other hand, the Times is more or less satisfied with Jeong, then it should resist the social-media mob campaign to have her dismissed.

    If the dirty googlesluts are more or less satisfied censoring the dirty chineser internet for money then it should resist the uninformed reactionary braying of the congresstrash in the US senate

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  72. 2 words for this nutcake – Daniel Pearl

    mg (b5c960)

  73. her willingness to go out on a limb, then cut it off is extraordinary:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/03/flashback-new-york-times-bigot-sarah-jeong-defended-uva-rape-hoaxer/

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. she was all giddy about her new job now she’s famous for being a twisted hateful KKK-style racist and her own mother suddenly suspects she raised a man-hating lesbian who will never give her any grandchildren plus she lives in effing fecal portland everything is spiraling out of control and she’s turned her back on God

    summer bummer womp womp

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  75. so she really should work for rolling stone, perhaps politico, ny times are like worn out gym socks,

    narciso (d1f714)

  76. maybe she’s right where the good lord wants her to be

    i don’t really care about her as a person I just think it’s fun that the New York Times hired a virulent racist

    this #resistance, it couldn’t be going more swimmingly

    nervertrump lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  77. oopers i meant *nevertrump* lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  78. i been to Pueblo kind of a lot and I never knew this was there

    it looks like a fun way to spend a morning i wonder if they’re at all accessible

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  79. oh i see it’s kind of a jaunt to the south

    never been down that way

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  80. So Sarah Jeong is having dinner with her parents when she lets out a big, stinky fart. Her mother says: “Sarah, dear, that’s disgusting.” Sarah says: “It was the dog.” Her father says: Liar! Your mother and I had the dog, too, and we feel just fine.”

    nk (dbc370)

  81. nk, try not to be an effing bigot.

    Tillman (d34303)

  82. Is that what this whole post was about? An excuse for bigotry?

    Tillman (d34303)

  83. I am not a bigot! I am only trolling the NYT anti-white Korean bigot back!

    — What do you call a Korean who has a dog for a pet?
    — A vegetarian.
    — What do you call a Korean with two dogs?
    — A rancher.

    nk (dbc370)

  84. You’re a bigot, I’ve seen it before. Admit it, a$$hole.

    Tillman (d34303)

  85. Go suck a cowpie.

    nk (dbc370)

  86. Mr. nk isn’t a bigot why would you even say that

    bigots are include kevin williamson and the asian kkk chick at the new york times who says white people smell like wet dinner

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  87. “Some of the worst of us got tenure, naturally. Even though the legacy of Marxism in practice is hundreds of millions of corpses, unimaginable oppression, injustice and horror, Marxism, in theory, remains a preferred mode of mental masturbation for the worst of us.
    Global growth of middle-class lifestyles and the free market’s relentless assault on class barriers made the “workers of the world unite” shtick from the early 20th century so patently silly that the worst of us decided to apply Marx to race and sex where it is even more patently stupid, yet seemingly new and clever.

    Like the dog that actually caught up to the fire engine, Boomer academics destroyed so much of the institutions they rebelled against that they have nothing left to do but devolve into caricature. If one’s whole life was about resenting parental disapproval of one’s politics and sexual mores, what does one do when they’re gone — or worse they change their minds, “grow,” and agree with you?
    The ever-shifting array of leftist tropes, causes du jour, and passions are all driven by the same non serviam based on the fear that some comprehensive traditional moral order will return and swallow up the illusory freedoms we narcissists carved out.

    Back in the day when the face of the traditional moral order was that of the innocuous ordinary people who comprised family, friends, and neighbors, it was not really all that threatening. But when you succeed in divorcing your life from all that was once normal, when distance and ignorance create caricature in the place of everyday experience, the fear increases even as the threat from the forces of tradition recedes.
    Spectacularly stupid fiction like The Handmaid’s Tale is accepted as accurate metaphor, Jim Acosta’s horror at the deeply alien, non-leftist regions of America is considered sane, and Sarah Jeong’s utterly sophomoric tweets about her weird caricatures of white people is mainstream.

    When we Boomers embarked on the solipsistic, selfish, arrogant stylings that characterized our youth, we did lasting damage to nurturing institutions and to the following generations who needed and deserved the values, wisdom, and experience we squandered. Sorry, Sarah, we owe you an apology but you may not have been educated well enough to know why and that’s our fault as well.”

    https://ricochet.com/540274/do-we-boomers-owe-sarah-jeong-an-apology/

    harkin (b524bb)

  88. “When a lefie does bigotry on you, you’ll take it and like it.” — A leftie

    nk (dbc370)

  89. This is all part of the same sick mix. From Jeremiah Wright’s “God damn Amrica!”, to the NFL thugs doing their protest during the National Anthem, to Maxine Waters’s thugs burning the flag in front of her office. They think their reading on the light meter gives them some kind of privilege to get away with it, and they have no shortage of dipsh!ts like Tillman to enable them.

    nk (dbc370)

  90. starbucks called the cops on black people cause they were meeting someone there and one of them needed to go to the bathroom

    well that was NOT acceptable to whitey white starbucks

    but starbucks didn’t advocate for the death of all black people like the new york times lady did on white people

    lots to chew on here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. but guess what ONE newspaper you can find in ANY starbucks in America

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. The closest thing to my beverage, the macchiato tales seven sugars. That’s one bridge too far.

    narciso (d1f714)

  93. The nk riffs present an interesting “WW(R)HD?” situation.

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  94. She’s an inversion of Tia Tequila and perhaps the 2nd star of the Captain Caveman Groupie-like Trumpian Plant Program

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  95. *tila* no?

    ultra-racist tila was super bff’s with Meghan’s coward daddy’s zaftig daughter for the merest little bit

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  96. it’s weird how a nigh-religious belief that what’s printed in the new york times is sacred holy and true was passed on from navy coward John McCain to his worthless talentless daughter almost like there’s a genetic component

    and now we find out this same new york times is a not-so-closeted racist organization with annihilationist fantasies about white people

    (coward and coward-daughter are both white people)

    and the same damn week all this is happening a new “scottish” restaurant (white people restaurant) just opens up in the middle of nowhere and get this quote here:

    “There’s a bell on each table to ring for a waiter,” Smith said. The wait staff wear plaid vests, although of no particular clan’s tartan, that make them easy to distinguish from the customers.

    “They’ve been down-dressing the service staff. I like to know who the help is,” Smith said.

    wtf is happening to america

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  97. I wonder if that restaurant’s proprietor learned to woo a fat single American girl for the papers from the cooks and busboys.

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  98. Heck pikachu, we know it as the paper that helped Fidel get his job, which let Stalin cover up the holomodor that were fanbois for the Salvadoran guerillas one of whom is now bankrolling ms 13,

    Narciso (f851ba)

  99. This is the so-called newspaper which had to change the law of libel in the U.S. Supreme Court in order to remain in operation; and whose editor-in-chief recently testified in court, in another high profile libel suit, that meeting a deadline was more important than fact-checking the defamatory statements at issue, even though that fact-check was no farther away than the NYTs own archives.

    nk (dbc370)

  100. And who is (R)H, urbanleftbehind?

    nk (dbc370)

  101. Well commissioner Sullivan was an ogre, comparable to the head of the kyp perhaps,but it opened the floodgates.

    Narciso (f851ba)

  102. Somebody that got “found out” and ran off a few months ago.

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  103. 102. Wow she’s spinning solid gold platters:


    sarah jeong
    @sarahjeong
    Guys, what drugs do you think Paul Krugman does
    9:30 PM – Jan 2, 2014

    __ _

    You really wonder how the old guard of the Lefty Media is viewing this new installment of ‘They’re About To Devour Their Own’.

    It will be both satisfying and frightening to see them go down, realizing way too late they’ve fashioned the instruments of their own destruction.

    harkin (b524bb)

  104. Well we’ve long thought something off a toad,

    Narciso (f851ba)

  105. Ah! Actually, I got a free trial month of Marvel Unlimited (for two cents) and I am gorged with Deadpool. Chimichangas!

    nk (dbc370)

  106. They seem to considering introduced ING the thunderbolts intothe next series of films, if you’ve seen the avengers assemble, you know they have a secret agenda.

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. i have a huge huge but haphazard collection of digital comics on a bunch of cds i need to see if they’re any good and pull them off

    it’s a project cause i have to get a cd drive thing cause those have sorta gone by the wayside around here, but it’s a good winter project and then i could get rid of the physical before i move next spring

    the project is mostly for my friend M what lost all his for reals comics when Sandy hit

    but if they’re still any good i’m a make you a copy too

    what sucks and what makes it haphazard is a portion of the collection was on a hard drive what died before i backed it up so I’m not sure what lacunae exist

    we’ll circle back on this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  108. if i remember how this goes

    x number of files will be corrupt and some of it you know when you try to copy cause your copy fails but sometimes you don’t know it til you want to access them

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. Probably? As o mentioned before I was somewhat late to the star wars cease, my first notion was the first issue of the comic that ended with the sandpeople attack

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. I wish Trump could toss all the slimy republicans under the bus.

    Irony alert.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  111. it needs to go away so somebody can reboot it someday

    i’m actually excited about black buffy

    i trust Mr. Whedon won’t ass-jack his own baby with dirty sweaty social justice all up in it like how sow-teated kathleen kennedy did on star wars

    but he’s changed a lot

    so

    i’m a just hope for the best

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  112. The Marvel movies are to the comics like a glass of grape Kool-Aid is to a basket of September grapes. I have the Deadpool movie on demand on Comcast and I watched maybe ten minutes of it before I turned it off in disgust. I do like Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow though, and Chris Evans is a very good Steve Rogers.

    nk (dbc370)

  113. “I just realized why I can’t stand watching Breaking Bad or Battlestar Galactica. The premise of both is just “white people being miserable.”

    This is a woman in severe pain, mostly self-imposed. She cannot enjoy life if there are white people in it. Those NY Times Editorial Board meetings are going to be tense.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  114. Reynolds isn’t sardonic enough for you, but I agree with you on Spiderman 3, and the third x man, seems to be a pattern.

    narciso (d1f714)

  115. i thought the art direction on thor ragnarok and black panther completely made up for the weaknesses of the underlying material

    beautiful and it speaks to a seriousness of purpose that eludes kathleen kennedy so utterly

    but i finally got around to seeing Logan and i don’t get why that was a thing

    it wasn’t awful but it wasn’t good either

    and the death scenes of *main character 1* and *main character 2* (no spoilers) were completely unaffecting, which was kinda surprising

    don’t they watch thewalkingdead?

    it’s not hard to pull off a decent main character death anymore

    there’s like 75 templates in that one little show

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  116. Good grief they should forced him to write the next season of firefly, this was after alien resurrection.

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. Ok, in Thor Ragnarok, did you also think that Hela was being played by a tranny and had to check the credits to see that (to your shock) it was Kate Blanchett?

    nk (dbc370)

  118. Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ Series Reboot With Black Lead In Works From Monica Owusu-Breen & Joss Whedon

    Oh, Gods. An older black lady with a hyphenated name in charge. You just know the stories will be dripping with political correctness. The new Scooby gang. A black, a trans, a Muslim witch, a vengeance demon (we’ll keep that one), a creepy old white guy, and a bull-dyke vampire who wins Buffy’s love.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  119. Oh that’s mangolds fault, he almost wrecked the one in Japan, I tried to see those two on amazon, but there was a glitch.

    narciso (d1f714)

  120. She of course rejects the various misgivings.

    https://deadline.com/2018/07/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-showrunner-reboot-backlash-monica-owusu-breen-1202434165/

    I fear I will live to see “Gone with the Wind” remade with a diverse cast.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  121. Thor Ragnarok was pretty good.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  122. I know teh horror teh horror, did he forget his first shot at buffy, was a miserable failure,

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. So I’ve heard, waikiti might end up with guardians now that Gunn has been thrown into the sun, I think the second film was just too dayglo.

    narciso (d1f714)

  124. As I’ve stated for years – not enough bad can happen to the grand old party of Schiff

    mg (9e54f8)

  125. Meanwhile Warner is beating the dc franchise, with clubs.

    narciso (d1f714)

  126. A black Valkyrie? Wagner is spinning in his grave.

    nk (dbc370)

  127. I know teh horror teh horror, did he forget his first shot at buffy, was a miserable failure,

    The Buffy movie was someone else’s work, where they took his basic idea and effed it up.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  128. i’m a big alien 3 guy not least cause i love charles dance but david fincher did some really beautiful work even if he recanted all of it later

    i thought blanchett did ok in Ragnarok but that they should have punched her up a bit more here and there

    but yes she was ill-used

    she could have been as scene-stealy as tilda swinton was in the mostly ho-hum Dr. Strange movie

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  129. Except for wonder woman, but since they are setting the sequel in the 80s, with kirsten wing as cheetah well, you can see the potential pitfalls.

    narciso (d1f714)

  130. I once saw a floor plan of the Times’ editorial offices showing who resides where.

    I wonder if she has a current version with little crosshairs over the caucasians……

    I also thought this part of her intro from the Times was interesting:

    Sarah will also collaborate with Susan Fowler Rigetti, our incoming tech op-ed editor, and Kara Swisher, our latest contributor on tech issues.”

    I would love to hear these three get down about destroying the patriarchy. I’m sure it’s comedy gold.

    harkin (b524bb)

  131. Mr. Whedon did some amazing and amazingly fresh things in the now dying if not dead medium of broadcast network television and that gets overlooked

    but for that same reason I’m glad this one’s going to cable or to an ott platform

    that’s a whole different challenge and I hope he rises to it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  132. warner needs to eff their sad little drunk-ass ben affleck batman universe and roll the dice on the wonder twins i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  133. Oh noes the director of that fiasco, has insinuated itself into this one, as for his later projects dollhouse had possibilities,

    narciso (d1f714)

  134. yes dollhouse got better and better

    i think that may have been dushku’s last bite at the apple

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  135. In fact, they should sue westworld for theft of intellectuAL properties.

    narciso (d1f714)

  136. interesting i haven’t started that yet I’ll probably wait til it wraps like i’m doing with throney thrones

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  137. Well it’s a,more nc 17 version of the series, the hosts are like the active like echo, they are synthetic rather than mind wiped humans but their residual memory remains.

    Narciso (74b41e)

  138. “Guys, what drugs do you think Paul Krugman does”

    Katamine

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  139. Socialism is the opiate of journalists and academics.

    ropelight (7d6b16)

  140. Weasel Dust or Meth.

    mg (9e54f8)

  141. Dustin in Great Moments in Lazy Libertarian Equivocation:

    “Yes, this Jeong lady seems crazy and hateful but I don’t care.”

    A supposedly august institution hired a Professional Hater to, uh, OVERSEE THEIR EDITORIAL BOARD, meaning that the old and young skulls full o’ mush that the NYT caters to get formed by a Professionally Racist individual. Sure you wouldn’t be as worked up if they had hired, say, Andrew Aurenheimer?

    “These mobs of people trying to get people fired are no different from Jeong.”

    WHO AMONG US HASN’T sent hundreds of tweets viciously trashing our employers or the majority population of the US, or for that matter thousands of kid-raping jokes? If ‘equality’ means anything, it means that journalists get to maintain the privilege of slandering righteous men individually while on the clock and collectively when they get caught misbehaving!

    “The need to hurt others must have some evolutionary origin but it’s fundamentally irrational to make yourself so miserable because someone hurt your feelings.”

    It’s called ‘making a correction according to common standards.’ Evolutionary origins may include things like the tendency to ‘call out hunters or soldiers who can’t hack it’ or ‘warn others about likely betrayers and thieves’.

    But to Dustin, if you actually care about basic competence, you’re obviously MISERABLE and probably ANGRY, because a worldly wiseman like him certainly wouldn’t shamelessly GASLIGHT you when he horribly LOSES an argument.

    Steppe Nomad (36cfa1)

  142. She should remain with the NYT, as the face of the NYT and, by extension, the rest of the MSM. It’s not a matter of anything new. It’s that the mask is off, presuming it was masking anything in the first place.

    Richard Aubrey (3d7f6e)

  143. Love the picture of your neighborhood biker bar.

    nk (dbc370)

  144. So the Washington posts fact checker, that Montagu swears by, defames Sanders and whitewashed jeong.

    Narciso (9514ab)

  145. It’s a dangerous world out there. Even on Twitter, if you’re liberal speaking out against fascists, they’ll threaten to SWAT you:
    https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/1025171041461719040/photo/1

    And that guy isn’t even Asian or a woman! Imagine the threats he’d get if he was one of those or both!

    Tillman (d34303)

  146. I didn’t know they had brick or allowed hardly any setback from the street in Florida, maybe that’s Jax or Ybor City.

    urbanleftbehind (1b07fb)

  147. You really are out of touch, Tillman. John Scalzi is one of Tor Books’ star writers. And there’s been feuding going on for several years in the Gamer/Sci-Fi/Fantasy fan boy milieu. That’s what makes Scalzi a “literal who” to the geeks.

    nk (dbc370)

  148. Yes that’s not really south Florida, thanks for playing.

    Narciso (9514ab)

  149. Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

    Sartre, almost a hundred years ago. Of course you can replace “anti-semites” with the word “racists” in general.

    Tillman (d34303)

  150. Zola maybe, but Sartre would have bern a child then, and he wasn’t the greatest supporter of israel.

    Narciso (9514ab)

  151. Comfortably Smug
    @ComfortablySmug
    A Chinese spy at a senator’s side for 20 years and none of the tinfoil hat Jason Bourne resistance members have a thing to say about it.

    harkin (d17996)

  152. Member and sometimes chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee… wow 😮 Collusion much? I haven’t checked… much mention of this on CNN, MSLSD, CBS/NBC/ABC, NYT, WaPo, etc.?

    Colonel Haiku (4e13ba)

  153. Oh noes the director of that fiasco

    Whedon had sold the whole “Buffy” idea so some producer types, who made the movie without him, and still owned the property even during the TV run. They had threatened to make a movie with him (or the cast). God only knows the horror they are capable of.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  154. yes dollhouse got better and better

    The whole body-theft thing got very interesting. A cautionary tale.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  155. John Scalzi is one of Tor Books’ star writers

    He is also past president of SFFWA, the SF writer’s guild, an ultra-liberal, and one of the lead anti-Puppy crusaders in the whole Hugo award meltdown.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  156. Off-topic: I see there’s a new play in LA, where they remake “The Diary of Anne Frank” to be about a persecuted Hispanic family on the run from ICE.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  157. Perhaps that should be off-off-topic.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  158. Except the Final Solution is ‘C’mon in! We’ll pay for your college and healthcare, shield the thieves and thugs amongst you from the police and oh yeah here are your voter registration forms.’

    harkin (e4ec42)

  159. “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

    Really sounds like he was complaining about his opponents using Alinskyite tactics, eh? Also probably Sartre, or someone who may have lived around the same time:

    “The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Anti-Semite had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

    “Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    “I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    “Gradually I began to hate them.”

    Seems to work the same way. My general feeling is that these drop-in diatribes where you can substitute any erudite author or group you hate as the figure of exclusion as a substitute for argument are probably tools of people with Very Low IQ, Very Unlikeable Personality, and Very Unlikely to Solve Any Problems.

    At least use Current Year copypasta, it’s usually more entertaining.

    Steppe Nomad (0a779e)

  160. “Guys, what drugs do you think Paul Krugman does”

    Generic. Like all economists.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  161. @168.Off-topic: I see there’s a new play in LA, where they remake “The Diary of Anne Frank” to be about a persecuted Hispanic family on the run from ICE.

    Imagine that. Here’s another laughingly absurd idea: a situation comedy set in a German POW camp during World War II.

    Oh. Wait.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  162. “The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction.” – Donald Trump, December 2016

    Dave (445e97)

  163. Davey boy,

    this is growth, so it’s new jobs. Try and keep up.

    NJRob (b00189)

  164. It interferes with the signals coming through his fillings.

    Narciso (d89b9d)

  165. “The numbers are phony. These are all phony numbers. Numbers given to politicians to look good. These are phony numbers.” – Donald Trump

    Labor force participation remains near historic lows – even lower than when Donald Trump took office.

    Anyway, let’s look at the actual manufacturing numbers, phony as they are (according to Donald Trump).

    These graphs are straight from the BLS website, you can make them yourself.

    This puts things in perspective and shows what a tiny fraction of the labor force manufacturing jobs represent, and how unimportant even fairly large changes in the manufacturing sector are to the economy as a whole:

    All jobs (w/ manufacturing)

    Remember, the graph is measured in thousands; the total number of manufacturing jobs is around 13 million. The 370K jobs you want to crow about are much less than the thickness of the blue line in the above graph…

    The trend in manufacturing jobs is easier to see when plotted alone:

    Manufacturing jobs

    Note the suppressed zero. Manufacturing jobs have been rising at the same, nearly insignificant, rate since 2010.

    Since bottoming out at 11.45M in March 2010, the number has risen to 12.75M in the most recent report – an 11% increase in exactly 100 months, or 0.11% per month on average. Under Trump (so far), it’s 0.17% per month.

    Increasing a negligible rate by 50% results in … a negligible rate. And you can see that clearly in the graph. The growth of manufacturing employment is identical to the rate of (the much larger) total private sector employment.

    It’s nice that employment is increasing at the same rate as the labor force (in all sectors), but to pretend something significant is happening in manufacturing is delusional. The trend of the last 100 months is continuing uninterrupted. There were nearly identical monthly, and annual, numbers under Obama, who last I checked wasn’t an economic genius…

    Dave (445e97)

  166. they make a lot of good products here in America for example vodka and different kinds of fasteners

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  167. Kevin Williamson sure loves his media masters. Hope all the cucking pays off, and he gets hired as a “Reasonable conservative” at the NYT or WaPo.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  168. @177. As any Cuban would know; ask an American Embassy employee.

    DCSCA (797bc0)


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