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6/17/2018

#Winning: Ted Cruz Beats Jimmy Kimmel in One on One

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:04 am

Ted Cruz defeated Jimmy Kimmel in a game of one-on-one for charity:

“The reason this is happening is because after Game 7 of the [NBA] Western Conference Finals, I likened Sen. Cruz to a blobfish,” Kimmel explained, according to Deadline.com. “And he did not like that … so he challenged me to a game of one-on-one. And I accepted.”

The two players agreed that the loser would donate $5,000 to a charity picked by the winner, but both later agreed to donate $10,000 to both charities, the Texas Tribune reported.

Cruz selected Generation One Texas, an anti-poverty organzation, while Kimmel chose the Texas Children’s Hospital, the Tribune reported.

No, no, Ted. You’re supposed to insult Kimmel’s appearance twice as hard. Haven’t you learned anything?

I bet the money that Ted Cruz pledged to charity actually goes to charity, and not to a portrait of Ted Cruz in his offices or some dishonest stunt like that.

I bet it doesn’t take months for the charities to get their money, either.

What a mensch. How I wish this guy were our president.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

158 Responses to “#Winning: Ted Cruz Beats Jimmy Kimmel in One on One”

  1. What a mensch. How I wish this guy were our president.

    Really? I thought you didn’t respect him anymore. After he endorsed Trump, didn’t you say something to that effect? Something like Cruz wasn’t the man you thought he was.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  2. Reading this story gave my Sunday a great start!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  3. I have forgiven him, Anonymous person, after reading this story, which reminds me why I liked him.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  4. It’s become quite old this lamenting of Trump. The choice was turd sandwich versus a diarrhea sandwich.

    Rich (de9149)

  5. Patterico (115b1f) — 6/17/2018 @ 9:10 am

    Mine, too. If* the Norks “de-nuclearize” and the Korean war ends, I will not wish we had any other president. Yes, that is enough, at least to put that wish to bed.

    * a very big “if.”

    felipe (023cc9)

  6. Ted for teh win! This is very uplifting. Sabo got Kimmel’s number several months back. Lion Ted with teh coup de grace…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  7. I have forgiven him, Anonymous person, after reading this story, which reminds me why I liked him.

    Happy to hear it, though I don’t think he needed “forgiving”. Though he wasn’t my choice for President, I think he does mostly good work in the Senate.

    I think it is progress on your part that you are able to support a man who supports Trump.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  8. “What a mensch. How I wish this guy were our president.”

    Yes, well, failing that, a supreme court justice appointment for life would be my next choice.

    Attorney General over the next six years would be good too.

    I say that as a Texas voter who intends to do my part to keep Mr Cruz in his present job in the Senate. I don’t object to him in that role. I just agree the “mensch” could adjust to higher duties well.

    pouncer (915d55)

  9. Watching teh U.S. Open golfing on Sh*ttycock Golfcourse… quite a strange one.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. Sh*ttycock Hills…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. 9, be careful Col….lots a drunks after El Tricolor beat Merkel’s minions….she gone for sure now.

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)

  12. Kimmel should have refused to play as long as Trump was keeping children in cages after they were ripped from their parents’ arms. I think that’s this month’s meme.

    Don’t dare celebrate Father’s Day either.

    harkin (e5c973)

  13. “Watching teh U.S. Open golfing on Sh*ttycock Golfcourse… quite a strange one.”

    The USGA goes overboard again. They finally opened up the fairways a bit but some of he pin placements are just ridiculous.

    Lefty snapped yesterday, he should have been DQ’d but the USGA’s setup is still a joke.

    harkin (e5c973)

  14. God bless. Happy Father’s Day to all.

    Thank you Senator Cruz for having fun with the left and turning it into a good cause. You have my support.

    NJRob (20e09f)

  15. Cruz also had the saavy to book an HBCU venue for the event.

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)

  16. I think next time they’ll mine the course,

    Happy fathers day

    narciso (4911d6)

  17. “What a mensch. How I wish this guy were our president.”

    He was my first choice also.

    Bill M (906260)

  18. This is Ted’s second-best “humanizing” moment in public life. The first being the reading of Green Eggs and Ham to his daughters during his filibuster.

    Now, watch him as he will be all over the floods which are about to hit Texas.

    What’s the Over/Under on the vote in November, 60%?

    Ed from SFV (2b4ea8)


  19. 17.“What a mensch. How I wish this guy were our president.”

    He was my first choice also.
    Bill M (906260) — 6/17/2018 @ 10:28 am


    That ship has sailed, ladies. Get over it already and be thankful Trump beat the Beast.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)

  20. Ladies? So now that’s a word to insult people? Way to not be a mensch, Hoagie.

    DRJ (15874d)

  21. It has always been an insult to call a man a woman. Not that it is bad for a woman to be a woman, but womanly features are not good qualities for a man.

    But, you already knew that.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  22. i can’t believe he’s playing basketball while screaming keening illegal bambinos are being ripped from the arms of their useless irresponsible mamacitas

    that’s not very christian that’s for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. ok so i started season 1 of Legion yesterday

    it’s so beautiful!

    you can watch it just for the furniture and the architecture

    such a wonderful surprise

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  24. Couldn’t get into that show, the other one about the teen mutants was more interesting.

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. Human qualities are insulting if they are the wrong gender? Fascinating. What other insults are you the expert at?

    DRJ (15874d)

  26. the runaways?

    i read that book when it first came out it definitely had potential but then right after that the british show came out (misfits) (brilliant) and sorta owned that space for a bit

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  27. Patterico and Bill agree on Cruz so they are now “ladies” — not real men to Anon Y. Mous. And apparently they think everyone knows this.

    DRJ (15874d)


  28. 20.Ladies? So now that’s a word to insult people? Way to not be a mensch, Hoagie.
    DRJ


    I really wasn’t trying to insult anybody, DRJ. I use that as a snide remark not an insult. Basically in that context it was meant to infer “quit crying”. That’s all. No insult just an observation.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)

  29. TexasFloods… gosh I remember sometime in the late 90s driving on a freeway – Dallas, San Antonio or Austin, I forget as I was traveling quite frequently down there in those days – and seeing a distinct waterline up toward the top of the trees well above and along the roadway. It was quite sobering.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  30. It is insulting the way you used it. You meant it that way.

    DRJ (15874d)

  31. Snide means derogatory or mocking, disparaging, insulting. Look it up.

    DRJ (15874d)

  32. speaking of Misfits what to make of this

    the ridiculously brave Robert Sheehan’s still looking for his break out – i think putting him opposite Ellen Page might could be magical

    it’s also Tom Hopper’s first real work since throney thrones

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. So kimmel will still be accusing Cruz of killing people, if we get rid of robertscare, that’s what I though,

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. you know who’s also a wee bit on the blobfish side is Ted’s wife, Heidi Cruz

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. Snide means derogatory or mocking, disparaging, insulting. Look it up.

    DRJ (15874d) — 6/17/2018 @ 11:23 am

    Just one day of peace would be nice. But please let’s at least be consistent in noticing the snidery.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  36. i knew this one person what was snide a lot and everyone was like you keep doing snide on people you face gonna get stuck that way and guess what he didn’t stop and his face stuck that way

    (cautionary tale)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  37. Now wait just a minute.

    Are Grayson Allen’s whereabouts during this game accounted for?

    :)

    Dave (445e97)

  38. Cruz is a good man quite capable of accomplishing great things. For now we have Trump as our prez and I hope he continues doing good things and works on mitigating the less admirable parts of his personality.

    Happy Sunday and happy Father’s Day to all of you swingin’ dicks!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. I thought someone had to touch you from the back for that to happen. (Yay, obligatory saxophone solo).

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)

  40. Good one Dave, and not all surprised if young Jonathan Banks aka Dukie Stephen Miller called that one in.

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)

  41. I think we have a bona fide scandal here.

    Here are photos of Ted Cruz picking up his ringer before the match:

    https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1008070820047056896

    Dave (445e97)

  42. Patterico and Bill agree on Cruz so they are now “ladies” — not real men to Anon Y. Mous. And apparently they think everyone knows this.

    I never said any such thing. You made it up completely out of whole cloth.

    Disappointing. I knew we disagreed about many things, but I did have a higher opinion of you.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  43. Greeaat, now the dorks supreme management a.k.a. GarPax of my Chicago Bulls are gonna nab Allen at #22 on Thursday night.

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)

  44. One reminds people of Grayson Allen.

    The other reminds people of Alan Grayson.

    Wonder what AG is up to these days…..

    Alan Grayson is making a new bid for the U.S. House of Representatives, and in his primary campaign against incumbent Rep. Darren Soto, he is looking to impress with his passel of famous advocates.

    Just don’t look too closely at the expiration dates on those celebrity sanctions.”

    http://sunshinestatenews.com/story/alan-grayson-sequel-candidate-quotes-celebrity-endorsements-past-campaigns

    Apparently Grayson is using taped endorsements from celebrities, including Oliver Stone, Martin Sheen and Michal Moore in his campaign ads without revealing that some were recorded as long ago as 2010.

    harkin (e5c973)

  45. Lefty showed emotion, something the tour lacks.
    I have no issue with his actions. Notice how these elitist commentators never mention the real issue with golf?
    SLOW PLAY
    Nice going Mr. Cruz.

    mg (9e54f8)

  46. South Korea and the United States are expected to announce the suspension of “large-scale” military drills this week, with the provision that they would restart if North Korea failed to keep its promise to denuclearize, news agency Yonhap said on Sunday.

    this is what for reals winning looks like

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. this is what for reals winning looks like

    …to the North Koreans.

    Dave (445e97)

  48. Having played many years of links golf the pros don’t use the terrain on the ground enough for my liking.

    mg (9e54f8)

  49. “Drink up while it’s cold, ladies.“

    harkin (e5c973)

  50. the north koreans are dirty and poor

    the south korean army is gay and useless

    we might as well be doing war games with a bunch of trannies

    oh wait

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. “Lefty showed emotion, something the tour lacks.

    Lefty showed all the self control of an eight year-old on a putt putt course.

    harkin (e5c973)

  52. LOL, HotAir has some funny details:

    Originally the game was supposed to be to 15, but after 40 minutes the two of them agreed to play to 11.

    Cruz and Kimmel missed more than 100 shots between them during the game. Toward the end, Cruz’s shirt had darkened a few shades from his sweat. Courtside helpers had to wipe the floor a few times because both players were sweating profusely. Cruz joked afterward that they also set the Guinness World Record for fouls.

    At the end, Kimmel couldn’t resist one more jab.

    “Ted, you’re a good sport,” he said. “I still think you’re a terrible senator.”

    “Kids, at least you got to see your daddy win something,” he added to Cruz’s daughters, who joined Cruz and his wife, Heidi, on the court.

    Dave (445e97)

  53. ““Ted, you’re a good sport,” he said. “I still think you’re a terrible senator.”

    “Kids, at least you got to see your daddy win something,” he added to Cruz’s daughters, who joined Cruz and his wife, Heidi, on the court.”

    Class act.

    harkin (e5c973)

  54. Class act.

    Almost Trumpian.

    Dave (445e97)

  55. The game – to 11 – took almost two hours. LOL.

    Dave (445e97)

  56. You are deranged. This has nothing to do with trump yet you have to throw out your Robert Deniro esq “f trump!”. You’ve allowed it to infect your logic and writing.

    Hi (72bfde)

  57. Kimmel obviously needs to drop the bong and get some exercise… typical loud-mouthed, no class, panty-waisted leftwinger.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. If he actually ran half as often as he runs his mouth he’d be in tip-top shape.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  59. @7. Happy to hear it, though I don’t think he needed “forgiving”.

    Unforgivable:

    The best Twitter reactions to Ted Cruz’s ‘basketball ring’ blunder

    At his Knightstown, Indiana, rally Tuesday night in the gym where iconic movie “Hoosiers” was filmed, Ted Cruz referred to a “basketball ring.” (Michael Conroy/AP) Here in America, we call it a basketball hoop.

    -source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/best-twitter-reactions-ted-cruz-basketball-ring-article-1.2615967

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  60. @53. Class act’

    Dribbler.

    “Welcome to Indiana basketball.” – Coach Dale [Gene Hackman] ‘Hoosiers’ 1986

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  61. No, no, Ted. You’re supposed to insult Kimmel’s appearance twice as hard. Haven’t you learned anything?

    No, the best insult is: GREASY BLOBFISH BEATS KIMMEL IN A ONE-ON-ONE.

    Make Kimmel eat his own words.

    Bored Lawyer (88bf82)

  62. Ted Cruz… yesterday’s news.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. “1. How I wish this guy were our president”

    Unfortunately, Cruz wouldn’t have been the President. He would have been the 3’rd Republican in a row that lost to the Democrat.

    It it had been Hillary vs. Cruz, Hillary would have won.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  64. No, just a more narrow 1-state victory with a Wenesday afternoon victory speech (WI would have been a blowout, although it might have taken a VP Walker to pull that one out…never should have did the Fiorina maneuver).

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5)


  65. It it had been Hillary vs. Cruz, Hillary would have won.
    fred-2 (ce04f3) — 6/17/2018 @ 2:11 pm


    They all know that fred-2 but it doesn’t matter to neverTrumpettes, excuse me, #resistance people. Like I’ve said, they’ve gone so far left they would rather lose with Cruz. I’m sure they’re gearing up for “The Impeachment” followed by the election of “The First Woman President Elizabeth Warren” both productions brought to the American people by Hussein-Soros Productions, Inc. @ Netflix. Hey, it’s good for another $50 million in the Hussein Charity Fund.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)


  66. 56.You are deranged. This has nothing to do with trump yet you have to throw out your Robert Deniro esq “f trump!”. You’ve allowed it to infect your logic and writing.
    Hi (72bfde) — 6/17/2018 @ 1:17 pm


    You have no idea, Hi. Trump is so deeply ingrained in poor Dave’s brain I’m afraid on his death bed his last word will be…“Trump!”. Reminiscent of “Rosebud” from Citizen Kane. Sad really.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)

  67. I knew Cruz was toast when he won Iowa and then was completely schooled by Marco Rubio on how to deliver message.

    The entire country was ready to hear his vision and he droned on and on till they had to cut away and show Hillary.

    I would love for Cruz to be president but he really missed his moment that night.

    harkin (e5c973)

  68. You have no idea, Hi. Trump is so deeply ingrained in poor Dave’s brain I’m afraid on his death bed his last word will be…“Trump!”. Reminiscent of “Rosebud” from Citizen Kane. Sad really.

    He wasn’t addressing me.

    Dave (445e97)

  69. I knew Cruz was toast when he won Iowa and then was completely schooled by Marco Rubio on how to deliver message.

    Truth.

    Dave (445e97)

  70. 63… Hillary has a mean crossover dribble, but she can only get about 2 inches off the ground. Cruz would whup her fat ass every time.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  71. I’d rather enjoy watching the US Open than two middle-aged white boys with no talent try to play hoops. Looks like Koepka repeats. Good scrambles and putts on the back 9 was the difference.

    Paul Montagu (54c2a3)

  72. BTW, I really like that Finau kid. Great personal story. I saw him on the Nationwide Tour a few years ago, when he was bashing 400-yard drives.

    Paul Montagu (54c2a3)

  73. @ 4. Rich: Quite right, the choice was turd sandwich versus a diarrhea sandwich.

    Some don’t get that it’s nearly always that choice and mostly we have to say forget about it Jake, it’s politics, hold our noses and bite the sandwich of our choice.

    We always vote for the lesser of two weevils.

    Fred Z (0ecd67)

  74. Just one day of peace would be nice.

    It would be, but you should be telling Hoagie that and not me.

    DRJ (15874d)

  75. That message was for everyone’s benefit, DRJ. Me, included.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  76. When I’m pulled out of moderation or flushed down the toilet please let me know what exactly got me there to begin with.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)

  77. Local billionaire to take control of the LA Times Monday

    Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong (soon-shong) is spending $500 million to buy The Times, San Diego Union-Tibune, Spanish-language newspaper Hoy and some community newspapers from Chicago-based Tronc.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/local-billionaire-control-l-times-190522470.html

    I might have to start paying more attention to LAT. Yahoo also has a picture of the billionaire in the lobby of Trump Tower shortly after Trump was elected. Maybe he’s a good guy.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  78. Doing okay, narciso. Still waiting for some lungs. Had the kids and my youngest grandson over for Father’s Day. They are still at the pool with the grill going anf the torches lit having fun. I came in to watch Bar Rescue. I hope you’re well also. Happy Father’s Day to all yoose guys.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf)

  79. Carrying over from a previous thread:

    https://youtu.be/79S5k1pgWZU

    narciso (547eb3)

  80. TexasFloods… gosh I remember sometime in the late 90s driving on a freeway – Dallas, San Antonio or Austin, I forget as I was traveling quite frequently down there in those days – and seeing a distinct waterline up toward the top of the trees well above and along the roadway. It was quite sobering.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/17/2018 @ 11:19 am

    It’s raining down in Texas

    And all the telephone lines are down…

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  81. Apparently Grayson is using taped endorsements from celebrities, including Oliver Stone, Martin Sheen and Michal Moore in his campaign ads without revealing that some were recorded as long ago as 2010.

    harkin (e5c973) — 6/17/2018 @ 12:07 pm

    So now he has an answer for, “When did you stop beating your wife?”

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  82. No, just a more narrow 1-state victory with a Wenesday afternoon victory speech (WI would have been a blowout, although it might have taken a VP Walker to pull that one out…never should have did the Fiorina maneuver).

    urbanleftbehind (3b5ee5) — 6/17/2018 @ 2:15 pm

    Cruz never got called for charging Fiorina when she took a header off the riser.

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  83. You have no idea, Hi. Trump is so deeply ingrained in poor Dave’s brain I’m afraid on his death bed his last word will be…“Trump!”. Reminiscent of “Rosebud” from Citizen Kane. Sad really.

    Rev.Hoagie (c5d6cf) — 6/17/2018 @ 2:34 pm

    If you want to laugh your a$$ off imagine Hillary remaking these commercials Paul Masson

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  84. Unquestionable loser in the Ted Cruz-Jimmy Kimmel “Blobfish Basketball Classic”:

    Beto O’Rourke.

    Meantime, how about those Astros? Eleven-game winning streak, including the last 10 in away games. If your hometown or regular favorites aren’t contending in MLB this year, this is an amazingly entertaining and endearing ball club.

    Happy Father’s Day to all who are, or had, fathers.

    Beldar (fec66f)

  85. Put some frozen peas on it, Hillary.

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  86. When I’m pulled out of moderation or flushed down the toilet please let me know what exactly got me there to begin with.

    The word “cockholster.”

    Patterico (53a75b)

  87. Mexico’s World Cup goal shakes soccer — and the Earth

    Mexico’s goal against Germany in Sunday’s World Cup was seismic. The nation’s geological service said the celebrations that broke out in Mexico City after its beloved team kicked its first — and winning goal — were so large, they likely triggered two earthquake sensors in the city.

    “The #sismo detected in Mexico City originated artificially,” the Institute of Geologic and Atmospheric Investigations tweeted. “Possibly by massive jumps during the Goal of the selection of # Mexico in the world.” The service even posted an image of the seismic readings. The capital of the soccer-mad country is home to nearly 9 million people, making it larger than New York City.

    source- http://www.nypost.com/2018/06/17/mexicos-world-cup-goal-shakes-soccer-and-the-earth/

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  88. Happy Father’s Day, Beldar and everybody.

    I got a white carnation from church and a carton of thirty-six Hershey bars from my daughter and her mother. What did you guys get?

    nk (dbc370)

  89. THIS is a class act. Happy Father’s Day to all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYDTHyhDWz4

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. My younger son took me, his younger sibling, and my ex to lunch — and paid for it! Hershey bars is an inspired gift, nk.

    Beldar (fec66f)

  91. Hey Mr Colonel Haiku, did you ever wonder what Carlos Santana would look like through an Instagram filter?

    All Along the Watchtower

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  92. Patted Pop’s box– stoically guarded by a few of his beloved Coldstreams; old Britain’s which he began collecting at age nine. At the peak, he’d easily amassed over 11,000 of those old, toy lead soldiers and various bands, boxes and parts– and knew enough about them to correct the company catalogues.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  93. I love the “only Trump could have beat Hillary” crowd. It’s nice to know that suckers are still born every minute.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  94. Iowahawk:

    I think if you you get beat by Ted Cruz in basketball you should have to wear a shirt that says “I got beat by Ted Cruz in basketball” for the rest of your life, and then be buried in a tomb that says “I got beat by Ted Cruz in basketball”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  95. @104. “I think if you get beat by Ted Cruz in basketball you should have to wear a shirt that says “I got beat by Ted Cruz in basketball…”

    If you get beat by Ted Cruz in basketball you should have to wear a shirt that says, “Hoops! I got beat by a ringer.” See #59 for details.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  96. I love the “only Trump could have beat Hillary” crowd. It’s nice to know that suckers are still born every minute.

    Kevin M (752a26) — 6/17/2018 @ 11:16 pm

    So we should believe the “only Trump would lose to Hillary” crowd?

    Pinandpuller (abb278)

  97. I love the “only Trump could have beat Hillary” crowd. It’s nice to know that suckers are still born every minute.
    Kevin M (752a26) — 6/17/2018 @ 11:16 pm

    You know what I like better?

    “Only Trump did beat Hillery.”

    felipe (023cc9)

  98. “Hillary,” heh.

    felipe (023cc9)

  99. If 35 was for “everyone’s benefit,” 79, then why did you quote my comment? Why did you tell me to be consistent in noticing “the snidery?”

    DRJ (15874d)

  100. it’s not always all about you

    you should stop badgering people it’s just tacky

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  101. Because it was an example of how the snidery is noticed when some do it but not when others do it. And it’s not just you who does it, DRJ. Others do the same, including me. That’s why.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  102. It wasn’t Hillary Trump had to beat. It was The Media (and Hillary).

    If you think Cruz could have handled the media as well, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Ingot9455 (0433d6)

  103. here is your link Mr. narciso

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  104. It’s important to point out when a president is lying, and he told five big, fat ones last Friday.

    Paul Montagu (54c2a3)

  105. I was expecting a heartwarming story, sorta like Hoosiers. Then I read the comments section. The story is all about the people in the comments section, and how people really thought this was about Trump or something.

    Cruz did a fun thing. I like this side of him, and really hope he continues to show it. And Kimmel was man enough to attempt to back up his taunts, and fail somewhat gracefully.

    I don’t think the behavior of anyone else is relevant to this story. We live in an age where YMMV is a given. Intersectionality, you know…

    Appalled (96665e)

  106. Ploffes comment, goes double for Cruz, a believing evangelical in politics, he might as well have fangs, the fact he is actually abides by obamacare even worse.

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. Even in the Phil graham era the post had strong biases

    https://powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/the-truth-about-separating-kids-at-the-border.php

    narciso (d1f714)

  108. Following up:
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/17/caputo-stone-russian-mueller

    The fellow had a long rap sheet, going back to 1984!

    narciso (d1f714)

  109. Not that kind of diversity

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/1

    narciso (5936c1)

  110. it’s not always all about you

    you should stop badgering people it’s just tacky

    You should stop badgering DRJ. Not only is it tacky, but I won’t tolerate it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  111. I will respond to things that I notice and care about, Haiku. I’ll let you be in charge of responding to “snidery.”

    DRJ (15874d)

  112. Colonel is clueless
    Oblivious to the end
    And here we are now

    Gryph (08c844)

  113. The deems are burning this country down and stamping on the ashes, kimmels little gesture, doesn’t excuse its misinformed diatribes are the kind that put a bullseye on scalice, you want to dabble in minutia be my guest.

    narciso (d1f714)

  114. I’m glad Cruz won but he dribbles way too high.

    DRJ (15874d)

  115. Be consistent, DRJ. Not much to ask.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  116. “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” A 19th century quote that seems very applicable to the 21st century.

    Appalled (96665e)

  117. When folks are accused of being snide and others are often just as snide – if not more so – but are never called on it, it is an inconsistent application of rules.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  118. Here is consistency for you, Haiku.

    What kind of men think it is manly to insult people, or don’t even know that being snide is an insult? I know some guys like stupid trash talk and this post shows there is humor in sport trash talk, but is that how they do/should treat people in their life? And what kind of women do they live with if they think “Ladies” is a substitute for calling someone a whiner and a crybaby?

    This isn’t only about Hoagie, it is you and Anon Y. Mous, too. If you don’t like me noticing, don’t insult people and don’t use “Ladies” as an insult when someone says things you don’t like.

    DRJ (15874d)

  119. Ok, so you think I am snide in my comments. Thank you for that clarity. I don’t mean to be snide but it is always possible. Speak up when you think that happens, instead of nursing a grievance that you think I get the benefit of unfair treatment.

    I think you see what is in your mind. Is it possible you are seeing “snidery” where none exists?

    DRJ (15874d)

  120. This is what I want to discuss, if anyone is interested.

    DRJ (15874d)

  121. Colonel is clueless
    Oblivious to the end
    And here we are now

    Gryph (08c844) — 6/18/2018 @ 7:51 am

    I disagree that he’s clueless. He’s simply a very insightful troll. Like many trolls, if you do not respond to him, he will get more personal until he elicits that trolled reaction and now all attention is on Haiku and not on the topic of discussion. The discussion is now thwarted and he ‘won’ by vandalizing the blog.

    He knows DRJ is extremely polite, even to people she disagrees with very strongly, and even to people who are being very rude to her. Calling DRJ “snide” obviously is directed at attacking her most well known values. And now we’re all focused on Haiku.

    The deems are burning this country down and stamping on the ashes

    Sounds a little bit hysterical. The democrats have a lot less power than the republicans. How are they to blame for our problems? The GOP has the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, the White House, much of industry, and plenty of media. The GOP stands at minimum right there with the democrats. This common defense mechanism of partisans, to fixate on the other side and deflect blame to them, isn’t even relevant to Ted Cruz playing basketball.

    We know the media is ridiculous these days. Fox News’s bias against democrats is absolutely embarrassing for conservatives like myself. It’s simply another version of the bias against republicans you see on CNN or the New York Times.

    But look how the trolls respond to anyone trying to be fair. Ankle biting saturates the discussion threads on this blog, for example, and this blog does hit both biased lefty media and our GOP administration. It’s a better business model to pick up the pom poms for one side. So every loud voice is biased, every political bad player can point to that bias as an excuse, and every partisan can fixate on the other side. Over the decades, this cycle of bias and blame has made everything worse.

    So stop being part of the problem. Focus on your own side and what they need to do better. Everyone in our society needs to be encouraged to do this. It’s called accountability and it should be considered fundamental to having integrity. The GOP lacks it entirely.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  122. Thank you, Dustin. Well stated.

    Simon Jester (066e4a)

  123. “Calling DRJ “snide” obviously is directed at attacking her most well known values. And now we’re all focused on Haiku”

    Here is an example of Dustin’s penchant for mischaracterization. Not once in this thread did I say, suggest that DRJ was or is “snide”. I mentioned inconsistent. And that all of us may be “guilty” of being bothered by a “snide” comment made by a commenter and yet never call it out when someone who thinks like we do employ the same. I included myself in that. At the tail end of a thread. Beldar is often snide. Gryph employs very foul language and imagery. Never pointed out or mentioned.

    That’s all. Be consistent.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  124. . But please let’s at least be consistent in noticing the snidery.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/17/2018 @ 11:36 am

    Because it was an example of how the snidery is noticed when some do it but not when others do it. And it’s not just you who does it, DRJ. Others do the same, including me. That’s why.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 6:18 am

    When folks are accused of being snide and others are often just as snide – if not more so – but are never called on it, it is an inconsistent application of rules.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 8:38 am

    So Haiku is calling DRJ “MORE” snide than others, while complaining that she benefits for Patterico’s inconsistent application of rules.

    Then Haiku claims

    Not once in this thread did I say, suggest that DRJ was or is “snide”.

    Because Haiku is a very bitter and dishonest person who comes here to get attention and be ugly.

    Here is an example of Dustin’s penchant for mischaracterization.

    Haiku has been on a campaign to call me dishonest because he knows I always admit mistakes and try very hard to debate with integrity. Like Haiku’s repeated criticisms of DRJ as snide, his repeated criticisms of me as “Mischaracterizing” are intended to attack my most central values. It’s a way for a troll to get more personal.

    How many of Haiku’s comments today were contributing to the actual topic of discussion? Most of them are personal attacks on values commenters, and a few are simply completely out of place links to some outrage article that serves only to distract. You use a lot of weasel words and deflections to avoid accountability for your comments, but I never see anyone actually fall for it. We all know what you saying about DRJ.

    That’s all. Be consistent.

    Colonel Haiku

    Who are you to dictate how this blog should be run? You hate it when a discussion is pleasant and choose to constantly flame people. If you hate how this blog is run, why don’t you find a place to comment where you don’t hate it so much? My guess is that because you don’t really want to discuss any topic this blog actually posts about, you really want to strike out against those discussions.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  125. Look, Dustin, you misunderstand me: “Because it was an example of how the snidery is noticed when some do it but not when others do it. And it’s not just you who does it, DRJ. Others do the same, including me. That’s why.

    I did not say or imply that DRJ was or is snide. I said she notices it when some e.g, those who usually disagree with her, are snide and doesn’t mention it when others of her mindset employ the snide comments. As many of us do as well.

    You are making a big deal out of it to draw attention to yourself. You have in your last few comments and will continue to mischaracterize what i’ve written here. That’s how you roll.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  126. Just read the thread and see who took it off the rails. Before you jump to conclusions.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  127. I talked basketball and Cruz’s victory. What did YOU write about?

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  128. I’m walking on sunshine and it’s time to feel good I think Mr. Dustin

    happyfeet (ea07f0)

  129. I’m walking on sunshine and it’s time to feel good I think Mr. Dustin

    happyfeet

    I feel great! I imagine DRJ and Simon are also happy people. Nothing like calling a spade a spade to make me feel content.

    It’s Haiku who appears to be totally miserable and dishonest. I wonder if it’s because he wants to be the moderator of this blog so bad, and he knows he’s more likely to just be moderated.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  130. Take your unsolicited advice and chill out, Dustin. 3 seconds in the key.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  131. There’s no reason to do deprecate just take your passion

    and make it happen

    happyfeet (ea07f0)

  132. So we should believe the “only Trump would lose to Hillary” crowd?

    Yeah, Trump’s blowout landslide victory sure made those doubters look stupid.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  133. Hoops! I got beat by a ringer.

    Yes, because Cruz’s ignorance of basketball makes getting beat by him less embarrassing.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  134. Yeah, Trump’s blowout landslide victory sure made those doubters look stupid.

    Kevin M (752a26) — 6/18/2018 @ 11:49 am

    Hillary was an astonishingly poor candidate, and she lost largely because of the leaks of information about her misconduct (or investigations of her misconduct).

    The GOP had several candidates who would have done better. Walker, Rubio, and Cruz are all very well spoken, with a positive message, and they just seem like good people. I guess it’s an open question about whether we would have had the same leaks about Clinton that hurt her at the end.

    If Trump’s fans think he was unique in getting that out there, perhaps they should reconsider their views on the investigation of his campaign’s collusion with the Russian government.

    I think Hillary sinking at the end was a surprise. It certainly surprised Trump with all his claims that Hillary would win and that proved the election is rigged. Cruz would have done well. Clearly he has stamina! I’d love to see Trump attempt to play basketball.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  135. @144. Yes, because Cruz’s ignorance of basketball makes getting beat by him less embarrassing.

    ‘Ignorance.’

    Indeed…

    ‘Cruz was a varsity basketball player in high school.’

    source- http://www.dailycaller.com/2018/06/14/cruz-favored-over-kimmel-in-basketball-game

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  136. I talked basketball and Cruz’s victory. What did YOU write about?

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 10:39 am

    The vast majority of your comments in various threads today are about how terrible the people commenting here are, and how terribly unfair the rules here are. You don’t care about anything else.

    I literally just quoted a ton of your comments today so this is a weak effort to lie, Haiku. You lie all the time so you should be a lot better at it.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  137. That’s another lie, Dustin.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  138. You are a lying, mischaracterizing scoundrel.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  139. Read this thread, Dustin. And then go to the troll poll. You are lying.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  140. I’m in the minority in this area, but I strongly believe that incivility is leaky. You have a person you don’t like, and it’s okay to call them names. Then pretty soon it leaks everywhere. Everything becomes silly name calling and childish insults.

    How much better to, well, stick to the topics and not call people names. Heck, didn’t someone call Patterico a bad name recently and get a time out? Or call DRJ a leftist? Good Lord. Think about those two bizarre events.

    More and more, the comments section is kind of like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-l6tHeseDY

    And that’s fine, so long as Patterico approves. But I think all the middle school nonsense is precisely what the Powers That Be want.

    Simon Jester (eaeb1d)

  141. That’s another lie, Dustin.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 12:24 pm

    You are a lying, mischaracterizing scoundrel.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 12:24 pm

    Read this thread, Dustin. And then go to the troll poll. You are lying.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 12:26 pm

    Nah, these are three more examples of how you are obsessed with insulting me. The threads since I got back to commenting here are absolutely full of such comments.

    It’s the truth that you have criticized the commenters here and the unfair rules here many times today. That’s not a lie at all, but you calling that a lie is.

    Why does it make you so angry when I call you out for conduct you clearly intended to do? Isn’t it less stressful to just stop bashing me all day long, than it is to debate whether you do so?

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  142. Simon’s right. And my responding to Haiku is surely part of the problem. Sticking to the topics is much more interesting and enjoyable, which is why some who clearly have an axe to grind will try to make these discussions less interesting and enjoyable.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  143. When folks are accused of being snide and others are often just as snide – if not more so – but are never called on it, it is an inconsistent application of rules.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0) — 6/18/2018 @ 8:38 am

    If this was interpreted as me saying or implying DRJ is/was snide, I did not intend that. And I just read her comments from early (my pacific time) this morning. What I was trying to say – and after saying so several times and still not getting it across, so it must be me – is that snide is snide, no matter who employs it. I will read Beldar’s comments and think why is he being rude or insulting and not think the same – or view it as negatively – as when Hoagie is snide, for example. Now place DRJ in my spot and reverse the roles of Beldar and Hoagie. Alls I’m saying… or trying to say. And most of us are guilty. Someone will view a commenter and think him valuable and above reproach, while others will remember the mischaracterizations, smarmy platitudes and such and think, meh…

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  144. “It’s the truth that you have criticized the commenters here and the unfair rules here many times today.“

    They are not rules, it is personal behavior and personal bias. Is that difficult to understand? And no I haven’t criticized other commenters here “many times today”. I’ve criticized you.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  145. “Sticking to the topics is much more interesting…”

    Try as I might, I haven’t located any basketball-related comments from you on this thread.

    Colonel Haiku (6d3cf0)

  146. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    Colon’el? Use Preparation H, mate.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  147. I’d love to see Trump attempt to play basketball.

    Trump vs Hillary in basketball! First to score wins. Might take hours.

    Kevin M (752a26)


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