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4/29/2018

My Take on the “Comedy” Routine at the White House Correspondence Dinner Is Simple

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:47 pm



Here it is: it wasn’t funny. But I enjoyed watching Sarah Sanders called out for lying, on account of her being a paid liar. I didn’t enjoy watching her called out for her looks, because that kind of commentary is low class.

But you have no moral basis to complain about the cheap shots at her looks, unless you are on record complaining about all the similar cheap shots Trump has taken at people over the years.

That is all.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

246 Responses to “My Take on the “Comedy” Routine at the White House Correspondence Dinner Is Simple”

  1. This means you, probably.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. some of it was funny enough but overall it was maladroit programming the white house propaganda sluts

    they basically put their best skank-foot forward, and this is who they are

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. oopers maladroit programming *by* the white house propaganda sluts i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. DJT’s greatest gift is that much like a Rite of Exorcism, he causes the evil Left to declare itself over and over and over.

    Wolf’s coarseness and vulgarity were, nonetheless, way, way out of line.

    Ed from SFV (291f4c)

  5. what can you really call rosie o’donnell that’s not gonna be construed as a cheap shot

    late for dinner maybe

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. It also works the other way: anyone on the Left who does not object to Wolff has no right to complain about Vulgar Trump.

    There actually are a few journolists who did say Wolff was out of bounds, the most notable probably being Maggie Haberman.

    Kishnevi (1c16da)

  7. watch the video you can see the propaganda sluts chortling like fratboys at a dwarf-tossing contest

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. Black comedy.

    Our Cartoon President about our cartoon president was much lighter.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. Does this mean we can finally say Michelle Obama has a big caboose and is ugley. Prolly not.

    Boo Mertz (5a4596)

  10. Michelle Obama is an ugly old bag with a giant forehead. She’s also fat

    Hi (b08ed9)


  11. But you have no moral basis to complain about the cheap shots at her looks, unless you are on record complaining about all the similar cheap shots Trump has taken at people over the years.

    So you’re justifying the bad actions of one person because of similar acts by another. I thought that was verboten.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  12. even if you don’t complain about President Trump you can complain about how the white house propaganda sluts were doing verbal rape on what they specifically specified were the “women of the Trump Administration”

    these are the same social justice sympathizing trash what lose their effing poopies to the moon if you say anything at all negative about that butt-ugly bald-ass gun-grabbing parkland dyke or if you watch hillary faceplant in a gutter and say hmm i wonder if she has health problems

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. I didn’t see it, but on paper it was pretty funny. To me, this was the best part, because she said it right to their faces.

    You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? Because you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn’t sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you. He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him.

    Paul Montagu (e6130e)

  14. “(Cross-posted at RedState)”

    Say what?

    Dave (445e97)

  15. OT
    This came acrosd my Twitter feed tonight. A goid example of why I don’t trust polls. Note that no one seems to have tried to manipulate results
    https://forward.com/news/397048/almost-everything-you-knew-about-the-polls-and-israel-is-wrong/

    Kishnevi (1c16da)

  16. former peace negotiator Dennis Ross

    it’s a lil bit important to remember this jack-off never actually negotiated any actual peace

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  17. acrosd=across
    goid=good
    Another reason not to criticize Nate about spelling.

    Kishnevi (1c16da)

  18. The main crime was that unless you hate Sanders, it wasn’t funny.
    Comedy is about bringing the funny.
    The WHCD has had a few inadvertently funny “jokes” in the last few years, but no intended jokes have been funny.
    Imus wasn’t that funny, Colbert was unwatchably rude and caustic and this idiot was only funny if you hate Trump and his appointees. Obviously you hate on Sanders because she is a “paid liar”, but I’ve listened to LA DA spokespeople try to spin nonsense into whole cloth and never heard a complaint from the inside. Their job is to make it all palatable, take all the trigger words out and spin it into its blandest, most innocuous form. Anyone with a brain takes it all with a grain of salt because… well… bland

    steveg (a9dcab)

  19. I do think that many, many people in our nasty political class like to be “mean girls” about nicknames and insults and appearances. And just like middle school, those people reveal themselves to be of low character.

    It’s gross when people make comments about Michelle Obama’s looks.

    It’s gross when DJT makes comments about how people look.

    It’s gross to call DJT a cheetoh, and I have done that. It was wrong, and reminded me of the increasing nastiness or lack of character throughout our culture. The Left and Right should not be in a race to see who can be most vile.

    And it’s wrong when the “comedian” at the WHCD does that kind of thing. Period. Full stop.

    The “comedian” did this entirely for attention, just like anyone does who makes a habit of “mean girl” behavior.

    We need to better than that. All of us. Especially when it is applied to opponents.

    Many people confuse this kind of approach with ideological purity or even toughness. It’s bullying. That’s all.

    Simon Jester (fbe543)

  20. Justified

    mg (9e54f8)

  21. 11. It’s called “double standards.” Conservatives used to complain quite vocally about liberals displaying such hypocrisy; now movement conservatism has embraced it.

    Gryph (08c844)

  22. Some people I think rather see a belligerent North Korea with nukes than Trump getting a “win” by having them peacefully give them up. It would make Obama’s Iran deal look even dumber as well.

    But whatever trump tweets mean things and has no morals!

    Hi (b08ed9)

  23. 11. It’s called “double standards.” Conservatives used to complain quite vocally about liberals displaying such hypocrisy; now movement conservatism has embraced it.

    Gryph (08c844) — 4/29/2018 @ 7:58 pm

    I’d call it fighting dirty when you realize your “opponent” is doing that and worse. Talk to me when movement conservatives turn a blind eye to trump letting North Korea keep their nuclear plan while shipping them 800 billion dollars on planes in the middle of night just so he could get a “win” by having them sign a meaningless piece of paper. Or how about if movement conservatives start marching by the millions in anti war rallies unless it’s a republican president who goes to war.

    Hi (b08ed9)

  24. What would be worse:
    Sanders shilling for the President, or Mueller hiding exculpatory evidence?

    steveg (a9dcab)

  25. I don’t care about the jokes/truths about Sanders that were made. She signed up to work for a dishonest man with low moral character and is a known misogynist. She signed up to defend and spin and protect him. She gave Wollf a lot of material to work with. So did Trump. And so did the media, which was rightly called out by her.

    What disturbed me about her “jokes” was this:

    “[Vice-president Mike Pence] thinks abortion is murder. Which first of all don’t knock it till you try it. And when you do try it, really knock it, you gotta get that baby out of there. And yeah, sure, you can groan all you want, I know a lot of you are very anti-abortion, you know, unless it’s the one you got for your secret mistress.”

    So glib and cavalier, yet all the while she acknowledges it’s a baby that is being killed, and yet the audience laughs because Pence. This was a room of people seemingly lacking any moral compass, character or ability to hear exactly what she said.

    Dana (023079)

  26. Sarah was asking for it

    dirty fat girl

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  27. Does this mean we can finally say Michelle Obama has a big caboose and is ugley. Prolly not.

    Boo Mertz (5a4596) — 4/29/2018 @ 6:31 pm

    Michelle Obama is an ugly old bag with a giant forehead. She’s also fat

    Hi (b08ed9) — 4/29/2018 @ 6:33 pm

    Sarah was asking for it.

    Dirty fat girl.
    Happyfeet (28a91b) – 4/29/18 @ 8:25 pm

    Demonstrating that the right has its own misogynistic pigs as does the left.

    Dana (023079)

  28. This was a room of people seemingly lacking any moral compass, character or ability…

    Believe these days that’s called a Cabinet meeting.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  29. nonono Dana I been very vocal about how Sarah does her job very very well I love her more than beans and fishsticks

    (she’s smart and she’s sassy and she has observable fortitude what you can see with your own eyes, and this goes some palpable if unmeasurable way in redeeming her nasty-assed bigot daddy i think)

    so Dana i ask you

    if doing her job means she deserves to be publicly humiliated

    then where do you draw the line

    i don’t know it’s a moral dilemma!

    personally i think almost everyone who draws a government paycheck deserves at least some dollop of public humiliation

    but i might could be kind of an outlier

    but here’s what i know:

    the dirty white house propaganda sluts

    would not have hired this skank to publicly humiliate women in the food stamp administration

    they would have recoiled in repugnance if anyone had even tried

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. Dana I’m not one of those moralizing people who gets aghast at making fun of personal appearances. Trump looks like an orange chia pet.

    Hi (b08ed9)

  31. I don’t care about the jokes/truths about Sanders that were made.

    Demonstrating that the right has its own misogynistic pigs as does the left.

    Jokes about Sanders are no biggie, but those who make the same kind of joskes about MO need to be called out?

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  32. Trump looks like an orange chia pet.

    you mean like a super-sexy charismatic orange chia pet

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. “(Cross-posted at RedState)”

    Say what?

    LOL. I have been cross-posting there so long, old habits die hard.

    It was the cross-post to the Jury.

    Fixed.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  34. she’s smart and she’s sassy and she has observable fortitude what you can see with your own eyes

    and this Ronna McDaniel chick appears to be an acorn what fell far far away from the pedophile uncle tree

    happyfeet (28a91b)


  35. But you have no moral basis to complain about the cheap shots at her looks, unless you are on record complaining about all the similar cheap shots Trump has taken at people over the years.

    So you’re justifying the bad actions of one person because of similar acts by another. I thought that was verboten.

    Hoagie,

    You couldn’t have it more wrong.

    I am not justifying anyone’s actions. Read what I wrote. I am saying, you have no basis to whine about what happened last night unless you’re also on record opposing Trump doing the same stuff.

    I get to complain about it without looking like a fool, because I am consistent. Those who applaud Trump’s attacks but whine about this, look like fools.

    That is totally different from justifying it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  36. I forgot to add Hi to the comment block list.

    Done.

    The only downside here is that I have to depend on good people to let me know when these people say bannable stuff.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  37. @32. Nyet, Mr. Feet.

    The Great Pumpkin.

    Always.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  38. Anon Y. Mous,

    The comments I quoted above were about women’s looks. The jokes told by Wolf about Sanders at the WHCD were not about her looks:

    And, of course, we have Sarah Huckabee Sanders. We’re graced with Sarah’s presence tonight. I have to say I’m a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in “The Handmaid’s Tale.”

    Mike Pence, if you haven’t seen it, you would love it.

    Every time Sarah steps up to the podium, I get excited because I’m not really sure what we’re going to get: you know, a press briefing, a bunch of lies or divided into softball teams. “It’s shirts and skins, and this time, don’t be such a little b—-, Jim Acosta.”

    I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like, maybe she’s born with it; maybe it’s lies.

    It’s probably lies.

    And I’m never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You know, is it Sarah Sanders? Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Is it Cousin Huckabee? Is it Auntie Huckabee Sanders? Like, what’s Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? Oh, I know: Aunt Coulter.

    Dana (023079)

  39. yes yes the greatest of all conceivable pumpkins!

    a superlative pumpkin indeed!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  40. 11. It’s called “double standards.” Conservatives used to complain quite vocally about liberals displaying such hypocrisy; now movement conservatism has embraced it.

    Quite so, although (given Hoagie’s deep misunderstanding of my point) I sense that some don’t quite understand who the true hypocrites are here. So I’ll spell it out, since I was apparently unclear in the post: everyone who applauded Trump’s insults about people’s looks, but whined about this. THOSE are the hypocrites.

    (Also, anyone who whined about Trump insulting people’s looks but applauded the WHCD unfunny person’s shots based on looks. There’s a mitigating factor there, though in that Sanders spins for someone who does the same, so there’s a kind of rough justice, arguably — but I still don’t like it.)

    Patterico (115b1f)

  41. The jokes told by Wolf about Sanders at the WHCD were not about her looks

    this is what Aunt Lydia looks like

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  42. The jokes told by Wolf about Sanders at the WHCD were not about her looks

    Maybe I misunderstood the “smoky eye” stuff but I thought that was a shot at her makeup.

    The stuff about her lying pleased me to watch. She deserves to squirm. She’s a paid liar.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  43. speaking of which i also adore my fellow texan Margo Martindale and it hurts me personally in my heart she’s part of this good fight crap

    but i still love her

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  44. Also, Dana, the Aunt Lydia thing seems like a crack at her looks.

    Again: she signed up to defend Trump. I don’t feel too sorry for her. But such jokes are wrong.

    But Trump’s most enthusiastic defenders have no standing to whine about it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  45. I looked up Michelle Wolf on Google images. I don’t know how attractive she thinks she is. She may even be to some people. There’s no accounting for tastes.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. She’s a paid liar.

    what does that make Michelle Wolf

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. Dana,

    To tell the truth I hadn’t watched her routine, just relied on reports about how awful it was. But, you’re right, there wasn’t much of anything about Sanders looks. Except maybe for this one, “I love you as Aunt Lydia in “The Handmaid’s Tale.”

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Aunt+Lydia+in+%E2%80%9CThe+Handmaid%27s+Tale.%E2%80%9D&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL5dzCjuHaAhUFHHwKHSUgDvcQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1056&bih=512&dpr=1.36

    Not sure, though. The pics of Aunt Lydia don’t look all that attractive, but mabe the joke was more about the character of the woman rather than looks.

    But, that possible exception aside, you’re right. The jokes were about other stuff.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  48. I don’t think the Aunt Lydia reference was about her looks. I think it was her spinning lies for Trump. Here is a description of the Aunt Lydias:

    Aunt Lydia – The Aunts are the class of women assigned to indoctrinate the Handmaids with the beliefs of the new society and make them accept their fates. Aunt Lydia works at the “Red Center,” the re‑education center where Offred and other women go for instruction before becoming Handmaids. Although she appears only in Offred’s flashbacks, Aunt Lydia and her instructions haunt Offred in her daily life. Aunt Lydia’s slogans and maxims drum the ideology of the new society into heads of the women, until even those like Offred, women who do not truly believe in the ideology, hear Gilead’s words echoing in their heads.

    That’s how I took it anyway. Not about her looks, but rather about a true believer using her position of power to spin, cover and lie for the president and re-educate the masses.

    Dana (023079)

  49. if Handmaids had remained a book you would have a stronger point

    but this was a reference to a tv show

    tv shows are a notoriously visual medium

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. tv shows are a notoriously visual medium

    Indeed. Mr. Feet; Mark Levin should a., hit the salad bar and b., lose the clipboard: William F. Buckley he’s not.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  51. but this was a reference to a tv show

    I was going to ask how you know she was referring to the show instead of the book, but she used the “star-struck” line. Doesn’t really work if she was referencing the book.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  52. Also Patrick, everyone knows Sanders (courtesy of WH make-up artist Katie Price) has mastered the classic smoky eye. IMake-up aficionados know this, so I think Wolf was just using them as a platform to attack her for lying. Not criticizing them, per se.

    Dana (023079)

  53. yes but Sarah Huckabee should also hit the salad bar cause she’s so goddamn fat Mr. DCSCA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. The decision to continue the series was a no-brainer for Hulu after it became the most-viewed premiere in its first week on Hulu—original or acquired—in history and resulted in a significant subscriber bump for the streaming service. The Handmaid’s Tale also brought prestige to Hulu, sweeping the 2017 Emmys by winning outstanding writing for a drama series; outstanding drama series; outstanding supporting actress in a drama series (Ann Dowd); outstanding directing for a drama series (Reed Morano); and outstanding lead actress in a drama series (Elisabeth Moss).

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  55. Dana,

    You may well be right on both points.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  56. @53. Genetics, Mr. Feet; she’s merely the preacher’s daughter and Pappy Mike has a history of being quite a load.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  57. Anybody stupid enough to attend deserves to have their looks mocked.

    Note that Trump had the good sense to skip it, as should every president who isn’t a complete idiot.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  58. amy schumer with smoky eye

    amy schumer without smoky eye

    i’m a have to flip a coin on this one guys

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  59. Priceless. White House Correspondents Association statement on the dinner:

    I also have heard from members expressing dismay with the entertainer’s monologue and concerns about how it reflects on our mission. Olivier Knox, who will take over this summer as our president, and I, recognize these concerns and are committed to hearing from members on your views on the format of the dinner going forward. Last night’s program was meant to offer a unifying message about our common commitment to a vigorous and free press while honoring civility, great reporting and scholarship winners, not to divide people. Unfortunately, the entertainer’s monologue was not in the spirit of that mission.

    Every day we are working hard to advocate for our members and ensure coverage that benefits the public, and the dinner is an important opportunity to highlight and maintain our essential work. The White House Correspondents’ Association remains dedicated to that mission.

    What a joke.

    Dana (023079)

  60. I don’t recall anyone of the commenters here ever applauding Trump for insulting people’s looks. But I could have missed it, I don’t read every comment.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. Feet, you gotta through the body positive part of the base a bone (with a lot of meat on it).

    urbanleftbehind (24e2ff)

  62. I looked up Michelle Wolf on Google images. I don’t know how attractive she thinks she is. She may even be to some people. There’s no accounting for tastes.

    nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2018 @ 9:01 pm

    She looks like that at 35 but all her eggs are dead so she’s got that going for her.

    Plenty of sick memes with her, Rachael Dolezal, and DWS. It could be a continuum at the Natural History Museum.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  63. The Daily Show: Where comedy goes to die.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  64. If forced to make a choice, I’ll choose the fully-clothed Schumer every time.

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  65. If you want a smart, funny, attractive, cisgendered, heteronormative, Jewish comic from Texas look no further than Iliza Schlesinger NSFW language

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  66. I looked up Michelle Wolf on Google images. I don’t know how attractive she thinks she is. She may even be to some people. There’s no accounting for tastes.

    nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2018 @ 9:01 pm

    Shorter nk: “She ain’t swarthy enough for me.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  67. What a joke.

    So was Don Imus.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. Good humor was when the old comics used to roast each other.

    mg (9e54f8)

  69. Jonathon Winters was good humor.
    Steve Allen as well.

    mg (9e54f8)

  70. Jackie Gleason and Art Carney was Good humor.

    mg (9e54f8)

  71. Were

    mg (9e54f8)

  72. Anybody watch the movie Rat Race? Remember when Cuba Gooding Jr got on the bus with all the I Love Lucy Impersonators? Was Michelle Wolf on that bus? Was Carrot Top?

    I know it’s bad but one of the best parts was when John Lovitz took his family to the Klaus Barbie Museum Here

    Pinandpuller (c758b4)

  73. Look, they went a long way for the pay off, but that’s Gene LeBell with the revolver everybody. Judo Gene LeBell. He’s the real deal. And he’s been in like 300 movies and TV shows. Gene LeBell vs Milo Savage 1963

    Pinandpuller (c758b4)

  74. Trump is so vulgar and rude, but Wolf was OK because she said Sanders was a liar.

    Never Trumper “Muh Principles” at work.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  75. My take is this: and they wonder why they are seen as the enemy.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  76. I don’t recall anyone of the commenters here ever applauding Trump for insulting people’s looks. But I could have missed it, I don’t read every comment.

    Me either, but I am new.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  77. Oh, happyfeet probably did.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  78. Bethany S. Mandel
    @bethanyshondark
    The woke media spent the weekend covering for homophobic jokes from one of their own and laughed at the Press Sec being called a lesbian.

    — –

    Sean Spicier
    @sean_spicier
    “Stupid right wingers can never take a joke!”—say people who got a rodeo clown fired for wearing an Obama mask

    — –
    The real story here is the double standard, nothing more.

    People who don’t understand that this is what got Trump elected are the same people who say Obama is a better person than Trump.

    People who praise Wolf’s rant also think A Handmaid’s Tale is a closer fit to Christianity than Islam.

    harkin (cf32fb)

  79. 78. Applauding, perhaps not. Excusing? Absolutely. With the advent of Trump, the question of political double standards has come full-circle.

    Gryph (08c844)

  80. If not commenting about it other than mentioning his flawed personality and the mention of the buffoonery often witnessed constitutes “excusing”, then by all means yes, most of us who the host admonishes to go eff ourselves would hang.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  81. Refresh your memories on the Trump (and commenters) double standard here.

    DRJ (0280d9)

  82. Jon Lovitz is hilarious!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. Thanks for the link. It was before my time. I found this generalization at the link:

    Fortunately for Trump he can get a new wife when Melania’s beauty fades. Apparently there are plenty of beautiful young immigrants willing to do that job.

    DRJ (15874d) — 3/24/2016 @ 8:34 am

    I wonder if Melania deserved that comparison?

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  84. Why you gotta be so mean

    Once upon a time not that long ago we left this nonsense behind us in high school. Now we never grow up.

    crazy (5c5b07)

  85. Melania and Ivana before her are walking arguments that there are some jobs Americans will not do.

    nk (dbc370)

  86. they both walk good i think cause of one is supermodel and the other one is elegant with a measured and purposeful stride (strong thighs from working that pole)

    they don’t have real jobs though

    one is the first lady on America (Melania Trump) and the other one’s taking a hiatus from stripping off her clothes while doing musical gyrate with her body (blond one)

    but if Melania and Ivanka did have jobs they’d be jobs a lot of americans would be happy to do because people like to do jobs like the ones they would have

    let’s not kid ourselves about that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  87. Yes, a Melania Knauss would have the same gig as Kelly Hu did for a while.

    urbanleftbehind (24e2ff)

  88. DRJ

    Erick Erickson was much more fouled mouth than trump could ever ascribe to be.

    Reagan praised Gorbachev while he was killing and torturing men and forcing his political enemies to watch horrible things done to their wives and children.

    So there are double standards everywhere and the major league contortions never trumpers take to make decades old comments written by of all magazines playboy, as a condemnation of all sixty three million people who voted for them, doesn’t due anyone justice to any cause, and when read dispassionately shows that never trumpers fail to see the plain English spoken.

    EPWJ (077ff2)

  89. I would have thought Lovitz was better than most of the washed up rabble assembled on this late night vehicle.

    urbanleftbehind (24e2ff)

  90. Ivana, happyfeet, without the “k”. His first ex-wife. I-v-a-n-a.

    nk (dbc370)

  91. 83… okay I read a lot of comments from known rogue elephant papertiger, some *hole named Boris and that snarky one from DRJ highlighted in #85…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  92. And a lot of denunciation of Trump for doing it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  93. i need to study up

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. 44. Also, Dana, the Aunt Lydia thing seems like a crack at her looks.

    It could be that Ms. Wolf was insulting Ms. Sanders looks. It could also be her insulting Sanders for her unflinching dedicated role in furtherance of a crap regime, sort of like Aunt Lydia. If you really want to criticize her for going after someone’s looks, how come no one complained about her crack at McConnell. She said he couldn’t be there because he was getting his neck circumcised which, granted, was actually funny, but still. Given the location of where actual circumcisions take place, she basically called him a dickhead.

    Paul Montagu (e6130e)

  95. Actually Trump calling anyone names is not the same (in the least) as what happened at the WHCD this weekend. When Trump called Rosie O a big fat pig it was because she called him or implied that he and his then owned Miss USA pageant & reigning Miss USA, names such as pimp and implied the Miss USA was a whore. Once Rosie waded into that kind of “critical territory” for anyone who received that kind of slander, it was gloves off.

    And for the same reasons mentioned, that is why anyone can slam the POS WHCD “comedian” from this past weekend.

    I have never read or seen Trump go after anyone first unless he is attacked first. Rosie started it by stating on the View “the comb over” on her blog Wednesday — and suggested he was acting like a “pimp” for Miss USA, Tara Conner.

    Then on Fox the week later he slammed her. Rosie deserved it and EVERYONE knew it.

    This weekend was total BS. The comedian was and is trash. I reserved the right to call her out anytime. What she did versus what Trump did are 360degress different instances: She (whether it be Rosie or the WHCD comedian) was the attacker, basically lying, going for blood, unprovoked, and Trump was the defender, defending himself from lies that used derogatory language.

    The funny thing about Rosie and her unprovoked attacks against Trump, Trump and his Miss USA were not pimps or whores and Rosie was and is a big fat slob. That was why Rosie suffered her celebrity star to fall and Trumps to rise, across all political affiliations.

    So now the same thing: the WHCD comedian was foul and out of line. But it is protected speech. And that is why people of all political affiliations are criticizing the WHCD comedian, thru their own exercise of the first amendment.

    So yeah there are lots of reasons to throw tomatoes at the WHCD comedian.

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  96. Actually, Haiku, that was an accurate statement about Trump and his attitude toward marriage. Would you like me to say something snarky? I could never do it as well as you do but I can try.

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. Oh, wait. I think that was snark. Satisfied?

    DRJ (15874d)

  98. I seriously doubt Ms Wolf was acting under an ideological basis. She has a Netflix series starting next month; and she has insured plenty of publicity between now and then. Bet it will get high ratings.

    Angelo (133cfa)

  99. It seemed more like a take on young attractive immigrants being gold diggers.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  100. Where Eagles Dare:

    Under your logic, when A attacks B, is A fair game for the world, or for B?

    Or does it depend on who A and B are?

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  101. Second question:

    Assume A attacks B in a nasty and personal way, and C defends A.

    Is C fair game for attack? If so, is B the only one allowed to pile on C, or may the world join in?

    Or does it depend on who A, B, and C are?

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  102. 98… did the current First Lady deserve that comparison any more than Heidi Cruz deserved that detestable treatment, DRJ?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  103. To make it more concrete, you attacked Michelle Wolf, calling her trash, even though she never said anything about you.

    If I supported Wolf’s nasty personal attacks on Sanders, would you feel justified in letting me have it too?

    If so, that shows you that you find it justified to a) attack people who have attacked others and b) attack people who defend the original nasty attack.

    And if that’s how you feel, then Wolf was entitled to attack Sanders for supporting Trump, who engages in nasty personal attacks.

    The logic works both ways, my friend.

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  104. If A attacks B and D doesn’t applaud A does D automatically get lumped with C even though D never attacked B?

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  105. The correspondents were more offended by the fact that Wolfwoman made it even more difficult for them to continue the ruse that they are fair, unbiased, actual journalists than anything wolfwoman said.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  106. 106… more coffee needed!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  107. I like how President Trump took the high road and focused on the policies and the other initiatives he’s busy with.

    He’s still pretty upset about the way Jon Tester and Johnny Isakson slimed the go-go boy Admiral.

    And I can certainly understand how that might rankle.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  108. 106… wait a minute, I know the answer… yes! and they should go fvck themselves too!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  109. 98… did the current First Lady deserve that comparison any more than Heidi Cruz deserved that detestable treatment, DRJ?

    The comment was a shot at Trump. Melania sustained some collateral damage, which stemmed from the fact that her marriage to the president is transactional, a fact that she has cheerfully (if only implicitly) acknowledged. Now others acknowledge it too, and I am one of them. Am I supposed to feel shame about this? Because if that’s your goal, it ain’t working.

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  110. 109. Yet another example of how Donald J. Trump has redefined “the high road.”

    Gryph (08c844)

  111. I like how President Trump took the high road

    Nobody takes the high road more than Donald Trump!

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  112. They’re all a bunch of Dr. Pedophile von Doxxie’s…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  113. My comment was about Trump and his attitude toward marriage, but he has not had problems finding lovely companions.

    DRJ (15874d)

  114. If A attacks B and D doesn’t applaud A does D automatically get lumped with C even though D never attacked B?

    No. Of what relevance is that question to the treatment of Sarah Sanders, who applauds Donald Trump every day?

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  115. Go get ‘em, killer.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. 115. I think it’s perfectly fair to believe that Trump’s attitude towards marriage reflects his attitude towards women.

    Gryph (08c844)

  117. My comment was about Trump and his attitude toward marriage, but he has not had problems finding lovely companions.

    Rich old guys rarely have difficulty finding younger women willing to engage in transactional relationships.

    Patterico (6a7f3a)

  118. 119. When Melania outlives her usefulness, she’ll get kicked to the curb just like Donald’s other consorts.

    Gryph (08c844)

  119. And there will be a lawyer there to feed on the corpse…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  120. Looks like Wolfe is a white girl, so we can call her what she is.

    Ugly. Inside and Out.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  121. nk understands. I was thinking about Ivana when I wrote that. Trump likes traditionally beautiful women but he has a type he prefers for love or marriage. Ivana, Melania, and even his daughter Ivanka are exotic in the same way. He likes that look but he’s also shown that the object of his affection is replaceable.

    DRJ (15874d)

  122. 123. When the object of one’s affection is replaceable, I personally don’t call that love or anything of the sort. As always, YMMV.

    Gryph (08c844)

  123. I don’t believe in our side playing Little Lord Fauntleroy while the other side is the Boston Strangler. Bush was a fool to sit there and take Colbert’s insults in 2006, and not fight back while he was called “Bush Hitler” during his whole eight years.

    He probably won over Patterico with that wussy attitude, but no one else. As Lincoln said of Grant, I say of Trump: “I like this man, he fights”.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  124. No. Of what relevance is that question to the treatment of Sarah Sanders, who applauds Donald Trump every day?

    ?

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  125. 125. I’ll leave aside the assertion that Lincoln was a tyrant and no hero at all for a moment.

    What is Trump fighting for? Whatever that something is, will it make us a freer and more prosperous nation? Are we any closer to truly constitutional government than we were before his inauguration? Even if the answer to that last question is yes, how do we know it won’t be undone when he leaves office?

    Bread and circuses, ladies and gentlemen. It’s all a sad commentary on the state of the American electorate, and we’ll get what we deserve. Good and hard. (h/t Mencken)

    Gryph (08c844)

  126. What is the “job” you referred to, DRJ?

    Apparently there are plenty of beautiful young immigrants willing to do that job.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  127. Sorry for my “?” at 126, Patterico. I think I understand the question now.

    I was curious why it seems that Group D gets lumped in with Group C.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  128. It’s refreshing to see everyone come to the defense of political wives caught in the crossfire of political debate. Kudos to Dana.

    DRJ (15874d)

  129. Patterico,

    Nope. All the progressive/regressive sophistic rationalizing in the world doesn’t change the issue at hand: Trump only attacks those who attack him first, or his business, or friends and family. Then he goes and defends himself and others.

    You were validating the “comedian’s” unjustified attacks based on the error that Trump in the past did the same thing, which in fact, he did not.

    You are validating, though mistakenly, that is what makes it ok to attack anyone who is associated with POTUS Trump. And that is faulty logic to avoid showing any kind of deserved “sympathy” towards someone who was clearly unjustly attacked just because she works for POTUS Trump and she is a woman who is not a progressive liberal. All of those “comedic” attacks were because of that as well as she works for POTUS Trump.

    That is the issue. This whole multi-post on trying to find a logical way to validate your support of a “comedian” who went low on a POTUS you can’t stand, still doesn’t validate that across the political spectrum, what the supposed “comedian” did was wrong and not done well.

    heck attack me all you want. We can bend logic all day long to support any position and that is what the liberal progressives have made a living off of; if you are trying to find a way to do that, you probably will.

    But it still doesn’t change the facts: The “comedian” was wrong on a basic human interaction level, which Trump has never done before. The “comedian” is protected by the first amendment to say lies or go low, but she was and is still wrong. And I have the right to call her out on it.

    Shoot me, a supposed “messenger” of sorts, if you want, but it doesn’t change the facts: and most of those facts are recorded for posterity to back me up.

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  130. How did Heidi Cruz attack Trump first?

    DRJ (15874d)

  131. If A attends or watches any part of the WHCD, then A is open to be mocked mercilessly by B, C and D and the entire universe.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  132. 131. You took an awful lot of words to say:

    “It’s okay as long as it’s our guy doing it.”

    Brevity is the soul of wit, my friend.

    Gryph (08c844)

  133. We can bend logic all day long to support any position

    You indeed seem adept at doing precisely that.

    Paul Zummo (2c79a5)

  134. And the ironic part is that *this* attitude is how the Left justifies their own personal attacks.

    Somehow, being civil and reminding people that being rude and personal is inappropriate is “not a fighter” kind of attitude….when being nasty in return just makes things worse.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  135. How did Heidi Cruz attack Trump first?

    this was around the time trashbag Liz Mair was sending nudie pics of Melania to people in Utah

    and Ted Cruz was so desperate and flailing

    he decided to blow a harmless tweet up into a big big huge deal, propagating it far more than it would have been otherwise, and further humiliating his mentally fragile wife

    and in the end it was all for naught

    he ended up looking like a pouty, weak, overwhelmed and unfocused mess, and the voters turned their backs on him

    Liz Mair may very well be the person most culpable for Ted Cruz’s failure to establish himself as a credible national politician

    thanks a lot Liz you big pooper

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  136. 134.

    Brevity is the soul of wit, my friend…and I practiced it. It’s all a matter of context, which you have taken out of…

    I was respecting that the Patterico posted several times to my one time.

    I think to reply with one post versus his several, as well as other’s, and yours, was an excellent and classic example of “brevity in action”.

    “I have only made this letter longer because I have not had the time to make it shorter.”

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  137. Whatever Liz was planning it sure damaged Trump in Texas. I understand that some Texans ended up voting for Trump because he was so rotten he put Texas in play for Hillary. A version of a neverhillary vote.

    Maybe Trump planned it? He did win, so who knows?

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  138. “Bread and circuses, ladies and gentlemen.”

    Well, its called Democracy. Part of the time its a Clown show, and part of the time it isn’t. You can ignore the B&C if you wish, but it has a real life impact on people and how they vote. Not you of course, but a lot of low-information voters and less serious people – who do vote. When you figure out a way to take away their vote, I’ll stop caring.

    Besides if the super-elite White House Correspondents were so concerned with Constitutional Government, why did they hire a “comedian” to attack the POTUS?

    rcocean (1a839e)

  139. People seem to be pushing the idea that because Trump – and some point in the last two years – made fun of someone’s looks, that means the Left and Never-Trumpers can be rude/nasty to Trump and his subordinates – forever.

    What an odd idea.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  140. What sick relationship: Sanders agrees to work for Trump as his spinmeister, fully knowing about his treatment of women. Yet she, to this day, defends him and lies for him – and not just about women. Trump boycotts the WHCD because he knows what a target he is, yet nonetheless Sanders is “encouraged” by Trump, her boss, to attend the dinner In his stewad and take the crap instead. This while he is busy hiding out and campaigning in Michigan so he can get some love. Understandably, he doesn’t want to attend, and yet has Sanders attend and take the hits instead. And then he tweets his disgust about the dinner and Wolf::

    The White House Correspondents’ Dinner was a failure last year, but this year was an embarrassment to everyone associated with it. The filthy “comedian” totally bombed (couldn’t even deliver her lines-much like the Seth Meyers weak performance). Put Dinner to rest, or start over!

    He makes the rules: it’s okay for Sanders to be publicly abused, but not him. And she’s willing to play by these rules. They’re both sick.

    Dana (023079)

  141. Sanders is “encouraged” by Trump, her boss, to attend the dinner

    I was unable to find the word you quoted in the link you provided.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  142. Sorry for the ads. I was lazy and did not preview. Try again:

    Liz Mair, a Republican strategist whose anti-Trump super PAC Make America Awesome launched the Facebook campaign last week, said each ad is expected to reach around 10,000 Mormons of voting age a day. The goal is twofold: increase turnout among LDS voters, and urge them to strategically consolidate around Ted Cruz, who is close to the 50% winner-take-all threshold in Utah.

    The group is running three ads: one that features Mitt Romney, one that emphasizes Trump’s past support for pro-choice policies, and a third that shows Melania Trump posing nude. The Melania ad, which is by far the most provocative, invites viewers to meet “your next first lady.” Mair said that one is being promoted on Instagram as well, but only to LDS women.

    Mair said this is the first time the group has run ads urging voters to back a specific candidate. In Utah and Arizona, polls show Cruz with a much better chance than John Kasich of beating Trump. And Mair, who has Mormon family members, believes she could bring some expertise in the effort to court LDS voters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  143. Does Liz Mair know what you meant by “job?”

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  144. 142.

    …so its back to being “its all Trump’s fault”….

    oy vey…same old same old…

    you guy’s make Trump more powerful & politically perceptive/savvy than even we who voted for him think he is…

    …so is POTUS Trump steadfast or is he mercurial in his actions? or does this guy play everyone for fools since they always take his bait and get outraged over a phantom notion of some kind, that once they reach for it, it dissipates? True, the phantom could only be “hot air”, but then why reach for it and make a spectacle of yourself?

    …sounds more like (or is it “sounds like more…”?) sour grapes that your “conservative” guy or gal didn’t win OR more sour grapes that your “liberal” guy or gal didn’t win…

    again…same old same old…

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  145. In breaking news, our duck hen who built her nest behind the waterfall of our swimming pool for the second year in a row has just hatched the eggs and we have her and the 10 ducklings circling our pool before we escort them to the lake a block away.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  146. Hawks circling above… teh pressure’s on…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  147. What a sweet image those baby ducks make, Haiku. I hope the hawks leave them alone. We have stray kittens here, which means it is Springtime.

    DRJ (15874d)

  148. Make America Awesome was anti-Trump, hf, not pro-Cruz.

    DRJ (15874d)

  149. 149… We’ve built makeshift ramps but she’s trying to get them back up to the nest area, where it was easy to drop down into the pool, not so easy getting out.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  150. Meanwhile, we have a guy nearby hammering and building a fence.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  151. I will says this for Utah and the Mormon communities in the state:

    They didn’t fall for the anti-Trump lies.

    Romney was worse then Trump ever was. He was pro-abortion and pro-gay adoption, enabled all of the Catholic orphanages to shutdown, and started what became known as Obamacare with Romneycare, in the most liberal northeastern state of Massachusetts. Yet he then changed the year or two before he ran for office. But because he wasn’t rough around the edges, he was given a pass by EVERYONE. Romney even wanted Trumps money and endorsement. Trump even sat out in order to give Romney a chance to become POTUS.

    Trump, after being insulted by the anti-Trumpers by having himself and his family attached without mercy, swung back and swung back hard, and the anti-Trumpers scrambled and cried “mama that man, he hurt me….”

    oh well. the anti-Trumpers started it first. They got what they deserved. They wanted scorched earth and they certainly got it. And in the end Trump forgot and forgave and has even given Romney compliments and for people to vote for him for Senator, and interviewed him for Sec of State. He even promotes foreign policies that Romney spoke about and even gives Romney credit.

    yet the anti-Trumpers still hold grudges….

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  152. at the end when trashbag Liz Mair got so pathetically desperate she was shoving porn in the faces of U-tossers the field had dwindled to Donald Trump, who was destined for victory

    Ted Cruz, who wasn’t having much success capturing “delegates”

    and piteous burn victim John Kasich, a dark horse who attempted to corral the burn victim pity vote but ultimately failed because people hate him so much

    so i think this anti-trump pro-cruz business is mostly semantic

    the only conceivable way to have stopped the Trump juggernaut was for Ted Cruz to rise above his manifest unsuitability for higher office and snatch the requisite number of delegates from Mr. Trump’s masterful hands

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  153. So Trump’s pictures are porn? I thought you liked her.

    DRJ (15874d)

  154. Dana,

    Your remarks about Ms. Sanders are disgraceful and show that you believe hating Trump excuses all acts.

    Shameful.

    NJRob (687158)

  155. Apologies, BuDuh. Here you go.

    Dana (023079)

  156. Where Eagles Dare (30c9de) — 4/30/2018 @ 9:29 am

    Please read my comment again. Both Trump and Sanders made their choices.

    Dana (023079)

  157. It makes sense to you for Trump to attack Cruz’s wife because Trump’s wife chose to pose for nude pictures, Where Eagles Dare? (Do you agree with hf the pictures were porn?)

    DRJ (15874d)

  158. i love Melania she’s like a mother-goddess figure to me like Ceres or Hestia

    but these pictures

    Trashbag Liz Mair presented them as if they were pornographic – her political theory about mormon housewives was that their poopholes pucker when confronted with images of female breasts and this drives them to vote for very unattractive beta males like Ted Cruz.

    But trashbag Liz Mair did a miscalculate.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  159. NJ Rob 157,

    Are you responding to Dana’s 142? If so, could you address her argument:

    He makes the rules: it’s okay for Sanders to be publicly abused, but not him. And she’s willing to play by these rules. They’re both sick.

    Dana (023079) — 4/30/2018 @ 9:06 am

    DRJ (15874d)

  160. Patterico (6a7f3a) — 4/30/2018 @ 7:26 am
    Nobody takes the high road more than Donald Trump!

    “We are higher now than we were on Election Day. We are higher now.”
    – Donald Trump, April 28, 2018

    Dave (445e97)

  161. Thanks Dana. From the link:

    “The president encouraged his staff and all of us to attend and so we did, and we felt like it was important for us to come out and be here,” Sanders told CNN Saturday evening on the red carpet event preceding the dinner.

    Seems like an odd thing for a man who demands loyalty to do.

    BuDuh (817531)

  162. NJ Rob,

    Sanders has agreed to play by Trump’s rules. She is a grown woman who is making the choice to do his bidding, even if it means being publicly humiliated by a mean-spirited “comedienne”.

    Dana (023079)

  163. NJ Rob 157,

    Are you responding to Dana’s 142? If so, could you address her argument:
    He makes the rules: it’s okay for Sanders to be publicly abused, but not him. And she’s willing to play by these rules. They’re both sick.
    Dana (023079) — 4/30/2018 @ 9:06 am

    DRJ (15874d) — 4/30/2018 @ 10:02 am

    Respond to her strawman and her calling Ms. Sanders sick?

    There is no argument. Just ad hominem.

    NJRob (687158)

  164. Dana,

    Your remarks about Ms. Sanders are disgraceful and show that you believe hating Trump excuses all acts.

    Shameful.

    NJRob (687158) — 4/30/2018 @ 9:53 am

    You’re going to have to explain this because I do t understand what remarks are “disgraceful,” and why you think my remakrs disgraceful, yet no disgraceful accusation to Trump for pushing her to attend and take the heat for him.

    Dana (023079)

  165. NJ Rob,

    Sanders has agreed to play by Trump’s rules. She is a grown woman who is making the choice to do his bidding, even if it means being publicly humiliated by a mean-spirited “comedienne”.

    Dana (023079) — 4/30/2018 @ 10:05 am

    How does that make her sick? It does show the media for what they are.

    NJRob (687158)

  166. He makes the rules: it’s okay for Sanders to be publicly abused, but not him. And she’s willing to play by these rules. They’re both sick.

    Ted Cruz was perfectly happy to call attention to a tweet which featured the grotesquely distorted visage of his mentally fragile wife.

    He jumped on that tweet like a chicken on a cheeto: he wanted all the voters to see it and say oh gosh let’s not vote for Mr. Trump we should vote for the weak contemptible beta male with the less-pretty wife.

    Then, compounding Ted Cruz’s folly, instead of laughing it off as a silly tweet, Mrs. Cruz pliably adopted the pose of victim (tweet victim with aggravated photoshop battery).

    It was a bizarre display of stupidity and neurosis, and it ended up repulsing the very voters they needed to win the nomination.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  167. If anything is disgraceful, it’s that a grown man chose to hide behind a woman’s skirts. He should have encpuraged his staff not to attend because they would be eaten alive. Why didn’t he? Especially as he hid out with adoring fans in another state.

    Dana (023079)

  168. She chose to go. The media chose to continue their hateful actions. The world got to see them for what they are. I thank her for taking the slings and arrows for all of us.

    Trump is not a good man. I’ve said that repeatedly. Doesn’t excuse the media and the left’s (BIRM) behavior. And it definitely doesn’t make Ms. Sanders sick.

    NJRob (687158)

  169. Dogs are barking, but the caravan moves on.

    the Bas (3bcea0)

  170. She chose to let herself be humiliated, NJRob, because her boss encouraged it. She submitted herself and her dignity to a man too afraid to take the heat himself.

    Dana (023079)

  171. B.S. Dana. That’s your hatred coloring your thoughts.

    NJRob (687158)

  172. If anything is disgraceful, it’s that a grown man chose to hide behind a woman’s skirts.

    We agree:

    https://youtu.be/RSI8jUoHg0k

    BuDuh (817531)

  173. You have a very different definition of hatred than do I, NJRob. With that, it dismays me to see a young woman willingly submit to such a man of low character and allow herself to be debased for his sake. That is disgraceful. But not nearly as disgraceful as her boss, the most sitting in the most powerful position, encouraging her to do so.

    But sure, call me disgraceful.

    Dana (023079)

  174. I share with Dana a generalized loathing of most everyone in marketing. Most necessarily compromise and sell their integrity out to advance the interests of clients, who almost universally care only to bring in cash.

    I also do not much like myself when I enjoy some of their efforts.

    Sanders is a big girl. She has chosen the business of The Swamp and the Deep State. She got stained. it happens. AND Wolf is a piece of garbage.

    Ed from SFV (291f4c)

  175. Eh…should be: the man in the most powerful position….

    Dana (023079)

  176. She chose to let herself be humiliated, NJRob, because her boss encouraged it. She submitted herself and her dignity to a man too afraid to take the heat himself.

    But President Trump showed his true courage by whining about it after the fact, Dana.

    Much like how he is now indignantly defending Ronny Jackson’s integrity after throwing him under the bus last week at the first whiff of trouble.

    Sometimes a leader has to sacrifice loyal underlings for a greater good – his own.

    Dave (445e97)

  177. it dismays me to see a young woman willingly submit to such a man of low character and allow herself to be debased for his sake.

    Do you feel the same way about women who voted for Trump, on Election day, despite knowning everything that was despicable about him prior to the election?

    BuDuh (817531)

  178. knowning should be knowing, Beldar.

    BuDuh (817531)

  179. Of course not, BuDuh. The two situations are not the same.

    Dana (023079)

  180. So some women are allowed to compromise if they think the country will benefit from a Trump Presidency and others deserve ridicule?

    BuDuh (817531)

  181. I’ll let a comedian speak for this:

    https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/990689951791673344

    second rule of comedy: comedy comes from LOVE, not from HATE! If u feel hate, you won’t get laughs.

    NJRob (b00189)

  182. You’re being intellectually dishonest.

    Dana (023079)

  183. I am being consistent with respect to women. I believe they can make intelligent choices based on perceived goals.

    Sanders supporting the administration is no different than a voter supporting the administration the only time she can.

    I almost think a vote is more powerful because you can’t rescind it. A lot of though needs to go into a vote beforehand.

    BuDuh (817531)

  184. though should be thought, Beldar.

    BuDuh (817531)

  185. Beldar left a comment? How come I’m not seeing it?

    nk (dbc370)

  186. Beldar likes it when we spell correctly, nk. If he is lurking, I don’t want to disappoint him.

    BuDuh (817531)

  187. Trolling commenters who are not even commenting on the thread? Yes, you a true blue orange Trumpkin. That’s a habit of your badgerhead, too. To attack people not in the room or in the conversation.

    nk (dbc370)

  188. You must have missed his comments on spelling errors.

    BuDuh (817531)

  189. 158

    I don’t buy it or agree one iota. Its still sounds like you suffer from sour grapes that Trump became POTUS.

    you said:

    “He makes the rules: it’s okay for Sanders to be publicly abused, but not him. And she’s willing to play by these rules. They’re both sick.”

    so what was spoken to Sanders by the WHCD “comedian”, was Sanders and Trump’s fault because she & Trump should have know it would be that vulgar?

    Pray tell how could they or you know that? Did you actually know it would be that bad?

    …..with what….a crystal ball?

    No one has been this pathetic & vulgar to Sanders, or Trump, even on SNL.

    Even the WHCD personnel at the event said this was not what they expected.

    …the “comedian” made her choice and she will have to pay the consequences. So are others who start an argument with Trump or call him names. He will finish it.

    Another “comedian” who has given POTUS Trump and his administration a gift. He will only become more popular by it and the pig farm of the “progressive” media will only be more hated for it.

    Where Eagles Dare (30c9de)

  190. If you re-read your comments before submitting them, you can catch spelling errors and correct them before they’re published. You can catch other kinds of errors too. It’s a good idea, I highly recommend it.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  191. Thanks!

    BuDuh (817531)

  192. It’s analysis like #142 that keep me coming back to this site. Thanks, Dana.

    TR (2c5752)

  193. If you re-read your comments before submitting them, you can catch spelling errors and correct them before they’re published.

    i’m a lot dubious about this cause of if it were that easy everyone would do it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  194. I agree with Dana with one cynical caveat: I think Trump and Sanders knew that either Trump or she would be made fun of at the dinner. I also think they wanted it to happen so they could use it to mobilize their supporters and have another issue to use against the media. It’s a smart plan and Sanders was probably willing to take the heat for the greater good.

    DRJ (15874d)

  195. Well, I suppose the text could be cut and pasted into a spelling checker. But that’s not so easy. A good online one (but an erratic website) is juno.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  196. you have to really knock the baby out to do a good abortion all up in it lol

    you can’t leave little hands and feet inside that’s for sure

    even if you have a porn mistress that gets knocked up you gotta really scrape that uterus really well!

    and use plenty of ointment lol (abortion ointment)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  197. It will never happen but Trump could learn something from Bush.

    DRJ (15874d)

  198. Where have you been these past few years, Where Eagles Dare? Who didn’t know it was going to be awful? Who doesn’t know that the MSM is hostile to any on the right. Is this really news to you? They should have been prepared for the worst. Always. And perhaps they were, and knew it would be this craven because now who scores political points looking like a victim now because a lefty comedienne did a hatchet job on an unpopular figure on the right whose job it is to spin and defend a president that is utterly loathed by the elite class of professional journos. See DRJ at 196.

    Dana (023079)

  199. that lady looks like Aunt Lydia’s butt

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  200. It’s a smart plan and Sanders was probably willing to take the heat for the greater good.
    DRJ (15874d) — 4/30/2018 @ 2:42 pm

    Completely agree.

    felipe (023cc9)

  201. a president that is utterly loathed by the elite class of professional journos.

    Maybe Redstate realized that market was saturated.

    BuDuh (817531)

  202. starbucks hates president trump even more than they hate black people

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  203. Bush’ self-deprecating humor was priceless. Classy and disarming.

    Dana (023079)

  204. i think Israel earned them a get out of jail free card for Mr. Pollard today

    i haven’t been really keen on letting him go but those people are doing the Lord’s work

    but c’mon if the sleazy military can let a deserting coward like Bergdork go what’s one little spy between friends

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  205. Also, Where Eagles Dare, The White House could’ve googled Michelle Wolf, gone to her Twitter feed, and also played a number of her standup routines tog an idea of what they were facing . But maybe they did…

    My take is, President Trump has unfairly attacked people, made it personal, viciously insulted them in the public square and set the tone for this White House. As such it’s rich that the White House complains when a left-wing comedian, a known Hillary supporter lashes out in a crass and low- class manner.

    Dana (023079)

  206. I don’t know what do you expected? Decency?

    Dana (023079)

  207. 207. Donald Trump complaining about comedians making crass personal attacks is like the late Hugh Heffner accusing prostitutes of having questionable morals.

    Gryph (08c844)

  208. Anyway, it looks like Wolf handed Trump a big win.

    Dana (023079)

  209. the white house correspondents at the dinner hate President Trump but they hate women with real boobies (non-transitioning real women) that work for him even more

    plus they love abortion

    and they like bawdy humor too

    and they all had a wonderful evening celebration abortion and hating on Cousin Huckabee

    meanwhile Israel assembled the evidence that Iran was cheating on their silly obama deal

    and poor baby general mattis locked himself in the bathroom and he can’t stop crying

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  210. oopers a wonderful evening *celebrating* abortion i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  211. I looks like Trump handed Trump a big win.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  212. I’m going to need you to explain this:

    you have to really knock the baby out to do a good abortion all up in it lol

    you can’t leave little hands and feet inside that’s for sure

    even if you have a porn mistress that gets knocked up you gotta really scrape that uterus really well!

    and use plenty of ointment lol (abortion ointment)

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2018 @ 2:49 pm

    Dana (023079)

  213. that’s the comedic talent people are rallying around today

    her name’s Michelle Wolf

    the Marvelous Mrs. Wolf

    you made note of this already

    at comment #25

    I’m not sure if the abortion witticisms are a big part of her brand

    but they should be

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  214. Someone found Wolf’s deleted tweets (she used to have over 20,000, now she has less than 400).

    One example:

    ‘LeBron James was named Sports Illustrated Man of the Year. Sorry Serena, so close.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5675113/Michelle-Wolf-called-Eric-Trump-abortion-one-thousands-deleted-tweets.html

    She’s going to need the Joy Reid defense methinks.

    harkin (adad0d)

  215. 207

    as I have said repeatedly, but you like the left wing, RINOS and the other anti-trumpers DONT want to hear it: Trump only attacks when he is attacked first. Just like he crushed the fat pig Rosie AFTER she called him a pimp and implied the Miss USA pageant was for whores.

    Please show me anything Trump ever did to someone even close to what this supposed “comedian” did at the WHCD. show me the proof.

    also show me the proof where Trump “attacked” anyone who didn’t attack him first.

    whether it was the dirtbag McCain who always attacked anyone who spoke out against the RINOS of the senate, such as all of the name-calling he did against Cruz and Paul when they first were popular. McCain tried the same thing with Trump and Trump handed McCain’s head back to him.

    again show me proof that Trump EVER attacked anyone first or ever sunk so low was to attack someone as the supposed “comedian” did at the WHCD.

    this is just the same left wing, RINOS and the other anti-trumpers cabal that in the end, shows all of them more desperate and more upset that their candidates in the 2016 race for POTUS, lost.

    you guys will support anyone as long as it makes Trump look bad and helps bring down his presidency.

    really, for any of you to support what happened to Sanders this weekend only proves why supposed “conservatism” is a dead political ideology of the USA. I mean even if Trumps family was attacked, his children and grandchildren, you guys dont care and only pile on. At least Trump admits he hasn’t been a good husband. you guys think you are some kind of gold standard of political ideology.

    You got the leader you deserved. Its a Trump world right now and you and your kind, are relegated to the dust bin of as-beens, along with the supposed “comedian” of the WHCD, and the WHC. Who would have thought that the corrupt WHC, the FBI, CIA, the DNC and even the RNC, would be so inconsequential and hated. Their lies have validated their down fall.

    Along with anyone else who supports them.

    Where Eagles Dare (8f562c)

  216. Please show me anything Trump ever did to someone even close to what this supposed “comedian” did at the WHCD. show me the proof.

    You’re right. Donald Trump has never insulted anyone’s appearance. I stand corrected. Clearly, you have the better argument.

    At least Trump admits he hasn’t been a good husband. you guys think you are some kind of gold standard of political ideology.

    You got the leader you deserved. Its a Trump world right now and you and your kind, are relegated to the dust bin of as-beens, along with the supposed “comedian” of the WHCD, and the WHC. Who would have thought that the corrupt WHC, the FBI, CIA, the DNC and even the RNC, would be so inconsequential and hated. Their lies have validated their down fall.

    Along with anyone else who supports them.

    Well there you have it then.

    *edits block list to include one more name*

    Patterico (115b1f)

  217. I have long blocked anyone on Twitter who I found to be irritating and without redeeming value.

    I have not blocked people like that because I hoped to encourage an open forum.

    However, I now realize that the fact that I have an open forum doesn’t mean *I* have to read comments from people fitting this description.

    So from this point forward, I intend to be a lot freer with the blocking script.

    I think it will make me a cheerier person.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  218. i, too, had an epiphany once

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  219. You’re on stage

    Roasting me

    You’re so blue

    But I can’t grab the minge on a gal like you

    That’s one thing I wouldn’t do

    There’s abate

    In your breath

    I can see in your set

    Nevertrumpers are steering your act

    Oh, girl your jokes are that hack

    Well I can’t laugh with ya honey

    Tell a joke that’s funny

    Does your bubbie know that you’re Out

    I’m gonna tweet about it later

    A tired premise hater

    Does your bubbie know that you’re Out

    Watch it snowflake (watch it snowflake)

    Better slow your roll

    That’s no way to choke

    Does your bubbie know

    Watch it snowflake (watch it snowflake)

    Let your Yes, and go

    That’s no way to choke

    Does your bubbie know

    Pinandpuller (903298)

  220. CNN: Late-night hosts defend Michelle Wolf’s White House Correspondents’ Dinner act

    CNN, same day: The 57 most outlandish, outrageous and offensive lines from Trump’s Michigan rally

    “If, among those who supposedly cherish freedom of expression, certain widespread viewpoints become taboo, where does that leave us? In a dishonest media atmosphere. More and more, conservative writers and pundits will claim to support Trump, whether they actually do or not. Meanwhile, those who refuse to engage in the charade will be increasingly sidelined.”

    Irony is not dead. Nor, apparently, is willful blindness. Those who might support Trump at CNN wre “sidelined” quite some time ago.

    But let’s yell about Fox.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  221. BTW, to focus on the insults about appearance is to bury the lead. Calling out GOP women as “Uncle Toms” and using everything in the book but “c-nt” to describe them is rather more of an issue.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  222. And the REALLY funny thing? Not one of Chris Cillizza’s “57 most outlandish, outrageous and offensive” lines is outlandish, outrageous or offensive.

    I am willing to bet that one or more lines uttered at the Conspirators Dinner was all three.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  223. 217

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKevXvC_Eik

    Here’s a video that includes footage of Trump insulting Carly Fiorina’s appearance. And he’s not even pretending to be funny. It’s just vicious.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzZMIU_Cc6Y

    There’s another. 24 times on Howard Stern.

    I get it, Trump licker. You don’t care. And that’s fine. But to just lie to us and pretend it didn’t happen? That’s pretty low-class, there buddy.

    Gryph (08c844)

  224. 225. Whoops…I think I might have messed up those links. But you get my point. I could go on. But I won’t. You Trump lickers keep up this level of disingenuousness, I might just take up Pat on his offer to use his blocking list.

    Gryph (08c844)

  225. Gryph,

    Name calling?

    Why did trump,insult Carly? Was it her campaign speech during the week that attacked his reputation and family. Also, fiorino knew she had no business on that stage.

    It’s sad and pathetic to watch the never trump bring up the past, as justification for their lies, distortions, and smears.

    EPWJ (d94a1e)

  226. Blocking list is used by 8th grade gurlz…

    Sad.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  227. Also, fiorino knew she had no business on that stage.

    What??

    Dana (023079)

  228. 227. And the Trump humpers continue apace. SMDH

    Gryph (08c844)

  229. Funny, a Trump supporter would come to Carly Fiorina’s defense but not say anything about Trump’s multiple appearances with sleazemeister Howard Stern. Can’t defend the indefensible, eh Trump lickers?

    Gryph (08c844)

  230. “136. And the ironic part is that *this* attitude is how the Left justifies their own personal attacks.”

    Another example of that you guys just don’t get it.

    The Left does NOT “justify their own personal attacks.” They just attack us because we are their enemy. They need no further justification that that.

    Anything they say other than that is simply them trying to get you (us) to stop defending against their attack.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  231. 228. Hey Patterico! Ever thought about starting a policy of blocking anyone who complains about your blocking list? 😉

    Gryph (08c844)

  232. Cat licker.

    Colonel Haiku (af8791)

  233. 8th grade mean gurlz unite!

    Colonel Haiku (af8791)

  234. 234. Sorry Colonel. “Gryph” is short for Gryphon. I’m only half-lion. Heh.

    Gryph (08c844)

  235. Wow. That blocking list comes in pretty handy.

    Gryph (08c844)

  236. Tame that shrew!

    Colonel Haiku (af8791)

  237. Add me to your list, Gryph.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  238. 240. If I feel a need to, I will. And most of the names that go on it will never know.

    Trump lickers, you have a right to speak under the 1st amendment. You don’t have a right to be heard.

    Gryph (08c844)

  239. Hey, Glyph is right. Stop picking on him. There are only a handful of places on the Internet where some people know that they can be their true selves without being disrespected, silenced, or trolled. Healing is more important than debate and in fact not all ideas are worthy of being debated. There is nothing wrong with being in an echo chamber if all that is being echoed is the idea that you are human and worthy of respect. Right, Glyph?

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  240. 242. That’s gRyph, moron. Go home.

    Gryph (08c844)

  241. I’m sorry, Gyrph. Must have spell corrected. Please do forgive me.

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  242. Note to Michelle Wolf: Trump won the while female vote in 2016. So, who’s disappointing whom?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  243. 218

    219

    “You’re right. Donald Trump has never insulted anyone’s appearance. I stand corrected. Clearly, you have the better argument.”

    and again, you’re wrong, Trump only attacked when he was attacked first by the “loyal opposition”. So did any anti-trumpers call out the attack on his wife? why, because you thought Trump and his wife deserved it from a previous name-calling episode that Trump didn’t start as well?

    all the anti-trumpets SAY they like people who speak tough and whats on their mind, “truth to power”, but when that same tactic is pointed at them, then the attacker is “immoral”. And “their candidate was the good conservative guy”….

    people can like Bach and company all they want, but hey guess what, out of the culture of Bach, Beethoven and Wagner (both of them) we got good ol Hitler & camps for those he didn’t agree with. just goes to show just because you think you are an “elite” and above it all, your notion of culture can produce some pretty amoral and immoral leaders.

    really you are no different then redstate: you think you can “delete” what you dont agree with. Sounds a bit like censorship to me.

    go figure.

    Where Eagles Dare (8f562c)


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