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4/11/2018

Trump’s Twitter Foreign Policy

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:24 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Confession: I don’t own a Trump decoder ring. I’m sure some will emphatically say that this is a brilliant display of foreign policy chess being played out before the world and before several critical world leaders that are of great concern to the US. OK then.

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One would assume as one’s position in the world increases in stature and weight, it might make a difference in one’s approach to critical conflicts. One might assume wrongly:

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As far as new national security advisor John Bolton is concerned, having been on the job just a few short days, here are a few comments from February that provide a glimpse into his views on the matter of Syria:

I believe since the Syrian civil war broke out nearly seven years ago that the subject of Syria is, sadly, tragic though it might be, is a sideshow in terms of the bigger strategic picture in the Middle East,” Bolton said on Fox in February, using his preferred epithet for the conflict.

While many of his ideological fellow travelers have argued that Assad is the primary problem causing Syria’s many conflicts, Bolton instead posited that the dictator of Damascus was at best a tertiary concern, ranking him “a distant third” behind Iran and ISIS in terms threats to the region. “If you want to know where to go to at least resolve the bulk of the problems we face,” he told Fox’s Martha MacCallum, “it’s not getting rid of Assad in Syria. It’s getting rid of the ayatollahs in Tehran.”

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

89 Responses to “Trump’s Twitter Foreign Policy”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (023079)

  2. we shouldn’t kill a bunch of Russians over a phonied-up “chemical gas attack”

    the pentagon piggies should be ashamed at how they’re doing attacks on people based on fake news

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Not to get too 4th dimensional chessy, but Trump’s rough talk on North Korea didn’t mean bombing and WW3.

    Ingot (e5bf64)

  4. This Russian collusion is serious stuff.

    harkin (607a84)

  5. Trump:

    Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War.

    This may actually be true, because U.S. and Russian soldiers may get into actual combat, at least at long distance. Even if this may have hapepned once or twice before, this may go on for awhile.

    This part is not actually true:

    Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation…

    How does this last sentence make sense?

    A. Democrats are so anxious to go against Trump that they have forgotten their antiwar leanings and therefore people for intervention face no pushback.

    Or:

    B. The Mueller investigation is forcing Trump to be against Russia?

    C. It doesn’t make sense; Trump just wants to attack the Mueller investigation with whatever is handy.

    Or is it D:

    D. Trump wants Putin to think that it is only the Russia investigation that is pushing him to be against Russia – and that when that is over, his hostility will all go away. So asa result, Putin will not escalate or do anything that will affect U..S. territory.

    Or:

    E: It isn’t Putin he wants to think it is only the Russia investigation that is pushing him to be against Russia – it’s antiwar leftists oppposed to Trump.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  6. cowardly malingerer john mccain was one of the people who started the fake and corrupt russia investigation with his dossier about urinating hookers!

    in December of 2016 what did he say?

    “When you attack a country, it’s an act of war,” McCain said of the recent hackings on Ukrainian TV, according to a transcript compiled by Reuters. “And so we have to make sure that there is a price to pay so that we can perhaps persuade Russians to stop this kind of attacks on our very fundamentals of democracy.”

    he’s an evil coward, John McCain is

    But yes this is a good example of how the fake and corrupt Russia investigation damages the bilateral relationship.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Trump thinks he’s still part of the fake-sports World Wrestling Entertainment business with Vince McMahon.

    The man is unfit for the presidency.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  8. p and also shaw

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. @ Ingot (#3): Nope, Trump’s comments about the Norks and his big “breakthrough!!!1!” have led to kicking that can down the road again for many more months.

    Which the Norks, correctly, consider victory, as they continue making more nuclear fuel, more bombs, and better miniaturization and ICBM delivery systems.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  10. One dimensional checkers.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  11. Do you guys know how terribly difficult it is trying to support a president who is behaving like this? I’m clearly trying harder than some, but it is very tiring. I wonder if delegates will be wearing paper bags at the Convention.

    Yes, he’s better than Hillary, but a syphilitic goat would be better than Hillary.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  12. Beldar,

    What happened to Trump between 1999 and now?

    He was making all KINDS of sense in 1999 on Meet the Press (2 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQUaQo2j42Y

    Kevin M (752a26)

  13. “In remarks widely seen as a victory on trade for the Trump administration, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday that he would work to cut tariffs on foreign automobiles and improve protections for intellectual property holders. China’s president also promised to open its financial institutions to foreign investors and work on “regional economic integration. The remarks come less than a week after President Trump floated the idea of tariffs on another round of Chinese goods, this time affecting $100 billion worth of Chinese imports to the United States.” Associated press.

    “Very thankful for President Xi of China’s kind words on tariffs and automobile barriers,” Trump said on Twitter. “Also, his enlightenment on intellectual property and technology transfers. We will make great progress together!”

    Trade war! He’s starting a trade war! War! I tell you WAR!!!

    Ahem.

    Look, I don’t “get” Trump either. He doesn’t work in a way that makes me comfortable, or fits in with my ideal of political leadership. But surprisingly, despite my frequent misgivings, some problems I were assured were unsolvable are being addressed. Once or twice might be dumb luck, but he certainly seems to win more than he loses.

    Having worked around real estate developers, Trump is definitely of a type I have seen before. Bluster and bullshit. Sharp as a tack and dumb as a rock. Always working the angles and the referees (that last is just for you beldar).

    Yes yes, but will China follow through? I dunno. Is suspect Trump will hold them accountable if they don’t. Or he will otherwise somehow spin straw into gold.

    So on Russia? Not how I would play things, but heck, what do I know?

    Cassandra (a815b9)

  14. 12. Kevin M (752a26) — 4/11/2018 @ 2:34 pm

    What happened to Trump between 1999 and now?

    He was making all KINDS of sense in 1999 on Meet the Press (2 minutes):

    What’s different? That is exactly what he’s doing. He;s going to try to negotiate with orth Korea.

    The only difference is that his timing was off.He said North Korea would have abomb in 4 years = 2003.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  15. Yes, he’s better than Hillary, but a syphilitic goat would be better than Hillary.

    A four-year vacant Oval Office and subsequent Constitutional crisis would be better than Hillary.

    JVW (dadb0c)

  16. i think Assad is clearing up the opposition near Damascus in preparation for awar with israel. Not one he wants – he’s a puppet now.

    I think the goal is maybe not to kill all peoplein the opposition but to smash any posisble underground.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  17. Guess Trump isn’t worried that if he strikes Syria against Russia’s warning that Russia will release all the evidence of their collusion with him, or the incriminating blackmail photos they have. /s

    dmr (a65bac)

  18. Bragging rights and body counts. I wish sometimes the red queen would just passover.

    Of course, probably no one here has been in a damned war. Easy to speculate about those that actually get dead in the process.

    neal (6b6f7d)

  19. “Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their economy, something that would be very easy to do…”

    Worse?

    Really, Captain, Sir? Worse than October, 1962? Suggest you check the compass again, sir.

    It’s easy.

    Aside from the United States paying Russia to ferry American astronauts aboard Soyuz spacecraft up to and down from the International Space Station, which the U.S. operates jointly w/Russia and other int’l partners, there’s this:

    [As of Dec., 2016] In total there are almost 3,000 American companies in Russia, and the U.S. is also the leader in terms of foreign companies in Special Economic Zones, with 11 projects:

    1.3M
    2.Abbott Laboratories
    3.AbbVie
    4.AECOM
    5.Air Products
    6.Albermarle Chemicals Representative Office
    7.Alcoa SMZ (Alcoa Russia)
    8.American Express Russia & CIS
    9.AmeRussia St.Petersburg, Russia
    10.Amrustrans
    11.Amsted Rail Company
    12.Amway Russia
    13.Apple
    14.Armstrong World Industries
    15.Autodesk
    16.Avis Russia
    17.Avon Beauty Products Company
    18.Black & Decker, Moscow Representative Office
    19.Boeing Russia
    20.Bristol-Myers Squibb
    21.Brown-Forman Russia
    22.Burger King
    23.Cameron
    24.Cargill
    25.Caterpillar Eurasia
    26.Caterpillar Tosno
    27.Celgene Corporation
    28.Chevron
    29.Cisco Systems
    30.Citi Russia
    31.Citibank, Saint-Petersburg Branch
    32.Coca-Cola System in Russia
    33.Colgate-Palmolive
    34.Compressor Controls Corporation
    35.CononoPhillips Russia
    36.Corning SNG
    37.Crate & Barrel
    38.Cummins Incorporated
    39.Dell
    40.Delta Air Lines
    41.Dolby
    42.Dow Europe
    43.DuPont Science and Technologies
    44.Eaton
    45.Ecolab
    46.ExxonMobil
    47.Fluor Entrprises Group
    48.Ford Sollers Holding
    49.Forever 21
    50.General Electric
    51.General Motors Russia & cIS
    52.Genesys Telecommunications Laboratories
    53.Goldman Sachs
    54.Google
    55.Halliburton
    56.Herbalife International RS
    57.Hewlett Packard Enterprise
    58.Hilton Russia
    59.Honeywell
    60.Huntsman CIS
    61.IBM East Europe/Asia (NW Region Branch)
    62.IBM East Europe/Asia
    63.Intel
    64.International Paper Russia, Moscow Branch
    65.John Deere Rus
    66.Johnson & Johnson
    67.Johnson Controls International
    68.JP Morgan
    69.KBR East
    70.Kellogg Rus
    71.KFC
    72.Kimberly-Clark
    73.Kinross Gold Corporation, Moscow Representative Office
    74.Krispy Kreme
    75.Levi Strauss Moscow
    76.Lexmark International
    77.Liberty Insurance
    78.Lilly Pharma
    79.Mars Inc.
    80.Mary Kay
    81.MasterCard International
    82.McDonald’s Russia
    83.Medtronic
    84.Metlife
    85.Microsoft RUS
    86.Mondelez International
    87.Morgan Stanley
    88.Motorola Solutions
    89.Motorola Solutions, St. Petersburg Software Design Center
    90.MSD Pharmaceuticals
    91.NBCUniversal
    92.Nike
    93.NVIDIA
    94.OCV Steklovolokno (Owens Corning)
    95.Oracle Development SPB
    96.OTIS Lift
    97.PepsiCo
    98.Pfizer
    99.Philip Morris Izhora
    100.Philip Morris Sales & Marketing
    101.Procter & Gamble
    102.Qualcomm Europe, Russia Branch Office
    103.RAND Corporation
    104.SC Johnson
    105.Sealed Air
    106.Sherwin-Williams
    107.Software Technologies
    108.Standard & Poor’s Credit Market Services Europe Limited
    109.Starbucks
    110.Subway Russia
    111.Tenneco Automotive Volga
    112.The Estee Lauder Companies
    113.The Walt Disney Company, CIS
    114.Thermo Fisher Scientific
    115.Timken-Rus Service Company
    116.United Technologies International Operations
    117.United Way of Russia
    118.Visa
    119.Walt Disney Studios Sony Pictures Releasing
    120.Western Union
    121.Wrigley, A subsidiary of Mars, Incorporated-St. Petersburg Branch
    122.Xerox
    123.YRIR (YUM! Restaurants International Russia and CIS)
    * Law firms, Consulting firms, Real Estate firms not included.
    -source http://www.aalep.eu

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. he meant except for 1962 duh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  21. Do you guys know how terribly difficult it is trying to support a president who is behaving like this? I’m clearly trying harder than some, but it is very tiring.

    Completely agree.

    The fact that he’s being assaulted by a weaponized federal govt and media is my main reason for (sometimes) giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think we may be past the point of no return where they really will be able to take him out. The potential aftermath is a terrifying prospect considering the way the deck is stacked more each day against the constitution.

    harkin (607a84)

  22. and herr mueller and his tacky-ass cougar-dyke wife will live in infamy just like hitler

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. @19. he meant except for 1962 duh

    What of June, 1948? Or June, 1950? October, 1957? May, 1960? August, 1961? August, 1968? December, 1979? September, 1983? March, 1986? June, 1987?

    Duh, really, Mr. Feet? D’Oh! Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. yeah you’re being purposely critical of President Trump

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  25. John Hinderaker at Powerlineblog:

    “… Trump is right on all counts. 1) Russian threats should not, and will not, deter America and its allies from responding strongly to Assad’s outrages. 2) Our relationship with Russia is bad these days, and, one would think, needlessly so. Russia is beset with problems, and hostility toward the U.S. does nothing to solve them. 3) The Democrats’ unending hysteria about Russia makes it hard for the administration to conduct normal diplomacy. After decades of accepting, if not welcoming, aggression by the U.S.S.R., liberals are now having fainting fits over Russia putting ads on Facebook.”

    AZ Bob (9a6ada)

  26. Of course, probably no one here has been in a damned war. Easy to speculate about those that actually get dead in the process.

    “Well boys, I reckon this is it; nuc-u-lar combat toe-to-toe with the Rooskies!”

    Dave (01aa25)

  27. Fox’s Martha MacCallum…

    ROFLMAO The Snowman is pitching woo to her over Trump access by saying “Reagan” every 30 seconds. Back in the days of his $10,000 month cocaine habit.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. now you’re being mean to one of President Trump’s best friends

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  29. The man is unfit for the presidency.

    Election results say different, but what are they compared to the intellectual firepower of the self-anointed?

    random viking (6a54c2)

  30. 11.Do you guys know how terribly difficult it is trying to support a president who is behaving like this?

    Meh. You’ll feel fine after he fires a few missiles- and Rosenstein.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  31. @28. Fossils tell their story set in stone.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  32. I think Trump is right to warn Russia. No good can come from our missile strikes killing Russian soldiers in Syria.

    The tough talk is Trump’s constant need to prove that he is not a 42nd Street sissy-boy who engaged in a meretricious relationship with Roy Cohn.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. I want to see him remind Putin whose button is bigger.

    Dave (01aa25)

  34. and plus there’s a big big difference between a punitive strike over a phonied-up “chemical gas attack” and actually having the hapless tatters “go into syria”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. I want to see him remind Putin whose button is bigger.

    That would be one way to get back our uranium that Hillary gave away.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. 23.yeah you’re being purposely critical of President Trump

    Consider it ‘Tough Love,’ eh, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  37. President Trump is rubber and you are glue Mr. DCSCA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. meanwhile Tom Brokaw is apparently still alive like Jane Fonda and Madeleine Albright but not Prince

    Tom Brokaw pokes at senators over Zuckerberg hearing
    Media
    — 6m 26s ago

    who effing knew

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. “Trump thinks he’s still part of the fake-sports World Wrestling Entertainment business with Vince McMahon.
    The man is unfit for the presidency.“

    If the glove don’t fit, we must acquit.

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  40. If only the Russian Deep State had not embedded Vladimir Putin to oppose Mr. Trump’s policies, we would not be having these problems. We really need to drain The Swamp in Moscow.

    nk (dbc370)

  41. my understanding is “fake-sports World Wrestling Entertainment business” is a controlling owner in “Fake Chemical Gas Attack in Syria business”

    so where does that put us?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  42. Number 1 tweet, not good… number 2, less not good.

    I sure would enjoy seeing the national media review what Obama’s actions and inaction in the Middle East, e.g., in Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc., were that brought us to this moment.

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  43. 36.President Trump is rubber and you are glue Mr. DCSCA

    He doesn’t use them, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. she’s such a liar

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. We had better make damn sure what we think happened did indeed happen and who was responsible for it.

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  46. lol Mr. Colonel

    panty boy mattis doesn’t care about what actually happened anymore than he cares if his boy soldiers actually have penises

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. @43. Condominimums iz hiz biziness, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. 43.she’s such a liar

    Ho-tells are hiz bizness, too, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  49. and yet i love him Mr. DCSCA

    i love him more than beans and fishsticks

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. meanwhile a slutty slutty dirty dirty Navy SEAL is actually being held to account for a change

    The 24-page report, based on hundreds of pages of interview transcript also made public on Wednesday, details allegations the woman made against Greitens — allegations the legislators who heard testimony from multiple witnesses found credible.

    this is why you don’t elect people what steeped in the sleazy us military for too long

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. OT, but appears to be good news… http://reason.com/volokh/2018/04/10/trump-picks-judges-round-12

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  52. Using a condom with a “woman” like Stormy Daniels is like carrying an umbrella in a hurricane. They have diseases you never heard of, not to mention pubic lice, head lice, fleas, ticks, ringworm, hookworm, pinworm, tapeworm, and whipworm, just to mention a few. No, the only kind of sex that’s safe with them is through a remote electronic medium.

    nk (dbc370)

  53. she really is dirty and her erotic love melons are so obscenely large funguses grow underneath

    #itsaproblem

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. 51… that’s no way for the POTHMWHC to speak!

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  55. DCSA

    I see Mary Kay cosmetics is about #80 on that list of US companies doing business in Russia.
    The real issue there is:
    Did you get a pink Trabant for your sales records, or a pink Lada?
    The old 4WD Lada that looks like a Volkswagon squareback was a beast. Some are still running in the hills down around the southern border of Nicaraugua Ollie’s Point area

    steveg (a9dcab)

  56. Especially before dinner time on the West Coast.

    Colonel Haiku (b209d4)

  57. Was ist ein POTHMWHC?

    nk (dbc370)

  58. But you’re right, otherwise. I think I’m going to give myself a little vacation from happyfeet’s comments. I don’t like my responses to them, either.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. i hate that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. #51 Where do the pubic lice live?
    Their habitat seems to have been destroyed.

    So are you saying that we spend some money testing the dna of the various pests in and around her Storm cellar and then demand Donald submit samples for a potential match?

    If this was a show on TV, it would rate higher than that show where Geraldo found dust and withered insects… wait, my guess is this show would also find nothing but a dusty old box and some bug fossils…

    steveg (a9dcab)

  61. storm cellar lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  62. @2. the pentagon piggies should be ashamed at how they’re doing attacks on people based on fake news

    New Moon is April 15, Mr. Feet. Forecasting Eastern Med weather is a guessing game; it’s weathergirls who fake it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. 48.and yet i love him Mr. DCSCA. i love him more than beans and fishsticks

    Unrequited. Mr. Feet; he’ll love you and leave you. It’s the art of the spiel. But look for the cash on the dresser.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. Hmm. This could get interesting, and Mueller might have made a strategic error. Seems that the Russian firm he charged in the “13 Russian” indictment along with three other companies has now signaled it will appear in court on the charges. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/russia-company-concord-obtain-lawyers-515432

    This will force Mueller and company to release discovery on the case, provide the 13 Russians (and inevitably via leaks) a pretty clear picture of the evidence against them. And, of course, it’s a “no harm” appearance for the company, so you can’t send the company to jail if they get convicted. Wonder what the odds are that Mueller dismisses the case against them so he doesn’t have to reveal any documents or evidence he has collected.

    pete (a65bac)

  65. David Axelrod
    @davidaxelrod
    Pretty clear that @POTUS launched a Twitter assault on the Russians promising in pretty specific terms an attack BEFORE he and his team had agreed on a plan.
    Hell of a way to manage these grave issues.

    – –

    Guy Benson
    @guypbenson
    Not good. But how does it compare to drawing a red line for military action, in very clear terms, then not enforcing it when crossed?

    harkin (607a84)

  66. They have diseases you never heard of, not to mention pubic lice, head lice, fleas, ticks, ringworm, hookworm, pinworm, tapeworm, and whipworm, just to mention a few. No, the only kind of sex that’s safe with them is through a remote electronic medium.”

    Who are “they” (more specific than “women like SD”) and what is your source?

    harkin (607a84)

  67. However, by appearing in court through counsel, Concord could force prosecutors to turn over discovery about how the case was assembled as well as evidence that might undermine the prosecution’s theories. In addition, Concord’s move creates the possibility of a trial that could expose sensitive intelligence information without the prospect of ultimately sending anyone to prison.

    god i love the russians

    they have balls

    balls even bigger than mueller’s cougar-dyke wife

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  68. Was ist ein POTHMWHC?

    nk (dbc370) — 4/11/2018 @ 6:25 pm

    PresidentOfTheHeManWomanHatersClub

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. that sounds a little massageyness

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  70. Yeah, I remembered, eventually.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Wonder what the odds are that Mueller dismisses the case against them so he doesn’t have to reveal any documents or evidence he has collected.

    The counter to that is “What case? Mueller made these charges thinking the cases would never be tried. Now that someone wants their day in court, he punts. Looks like there’s no “there” HERE, either.”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  72. Wonder what the odds are that Mueller dismisses the case against them so he doesn’t have to reveal any documents or evidence he has collected.

    If the Russian bee stays in Spanky’s bonnet long enough, maybe he’ll send Delta Force to St. Petersburg to round up the accused.

    Bonus points if some kind of nerve agent is used in the raid…

    Dave (445e97)

  73. he punts

    How has he punted? The article said the Russian company hired lawyers. The rest is pure speculation.

    Dave (445e97)

  74. Using a condom with a “woman” like Stormy Daniels is like carrying an umbrella in a hurricane. They have diseases you never heard of, not to mention pubic lice, head lice, fleas, ticks, ringworm, hookworm, pinworm, tapeworm, and whipworm, just to mention a few. No, the only kind of sex that’s safe with them is through a remote electronic medium.

    nk (dbc370) — 4/11/2018 @ 6:19 pm

    Sounds like the genesis of The Bubba Gump Condom Company.

    Pinandpuller (42cd28)

  75. storm cellar lol

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/11/2018 @ 6:32 pm

    Bill Paxton had to strap himself to Helen Hunt to keep from falling in.

    Pinandpuller (42cd28)

  76. nrequited. Mr. Feet; he’ll love you and leave you. It’s the art of the spiel. But look for the cash on the dresser.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/11/2018 @ 7:05 pm

    It matures in 11 years like an IRA or a Cohen.

    Pinandpuller (42cd28)

  77. Ignore tweets, no matter who makes them.
    It really does help.
    Try it.

    Twitter is the worst thing in the world.

    gp (0c542c)

  78. Do you guys know how terribly difficult it is trying to support a president who is behaving like this? I’m clearly trying harder than some, but it is very tiring.

    Yeah he’s a problem.

    On the other hand being ruled by Putin or gassed by Assad isn’t great either.

    Not that I can talk. My old stomping grounds voted in PM Zoolander ferchrisesakes.

    JP (699888)

  79. Do progressives want us to intervene in Syria or not? Do Republicans? It seems both parties are posturing themselves on both side of the debate. If Trump isn’t hard on Russia then he is Putins’s lap boy, but if he is tough on Russia then he is warmongering lunatic. He must both intervene and not intervene. no boots on the ground, but send a message that matters, not insult Putin, but don’t take his crap. Launch missiles, but don’t hurt anyone or start a war.

    In light of all that, why do we take anything the president is saying seriously? No one else is being serious.

    Cassandra (a815b9)

  80. we’re already intervening in syria we have tatters prancing around all over the place

    and now we’re sending the large war boats over there too

    this makes cowardly malingerer John McCain very happy, but he’s stupid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. I also picked up on that, Cassandra. Both the leftists and the neverTrump/RINO/alt-right/neocon clans are on both sides of the fence on Syria. Like you said, they want war & peace simultaneously. IOW, they’re all covering their respective asses. Frankly, I’m as conservative as one can get and my opinion is stay out and as long as moslems are killing moslems don’t interfere. It’s win/win. But let them and the world know if they ever even attempt to harm us or an ally we will annihilate them with nukes.

    Our troops should be brought home and deployed to secure our borders from the infiltration of illegals, terrorists, gangs, the sick and those carrying disease, criminals and gang members, the insane and any communists/fascists/socialists who attempt entry. With orders to shoot to kill. I know I’m going easy on them but we have to start somewhere. Then we build a 50′ high wall…..for starters.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  82. Writers often describe cellars as “dank”

    Steveg (87b839)

  83. there’s funguses down in them too

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  84. sticky icky with a hint of willy nelson

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  85. feel free to shoot phish in a barrel

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  86. nk @32.

    I think Trump is right to warn Russia. No good can come from our missile strikes killing Russian soldiers in Syria.

    Cassandra @79:

    It seems both parties are posturing themselves on both side of the debate. If Trump isn’t hard on Russia then he is Putins’s lap boy, but if he is tough on Russia then he is warmongering lunatic. He must both intervene and not intervene. no boots on the ground, but send a message that matters, not insult Putin, but don’t take his crap. Launch missiles, but don’t hurt anyone or start a war.

    Rev.Hoagie @81

    But let them and the world know if they ever even attempt to harm us or an ally we will annihilate them with nukes.

    Pinandpuller @85

    feel free to shoot phish in a barrel

    What;s going on now is high stakes poker, and it isn’t clear who is bluffing.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  87. Syria threatened Israel – Israeli prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has tried to make clear to Vladimir Putin that his objectives are limited, but such as they are, they won’t give up on them. No Iranian bases

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  88. Frankly, I’m as conservative as one can get and my opinion is stay out and as long as moslems are killing moslems don’t interfere. It’s win/win. But let them and the world know if they ever even attempt to harm us or an ally we will annihilate them with nukes.

    Well this is a cheerful thought. Iranian proxies in Yemen have been lobbing rockets at Saudi Arabia – so does Washington nuke Tehran, or give them a big thumb’s up because it’s Muslims attacking each other.

    JP (699888)

  89. What’s going on now is high stakes poker, and it isn’t clear who is bluffing.
    Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 4/12/2018 @ 3:07 pm

    Hah – I suspect they all are.

    At this point we have tried both bombs and treaties, and endless talk. They don’t care. I certainly don’t see any other country eager to dive on in that quagmire.

    Meh. Go to the UN. Set up a war crimes tribunal – that will look like we doing something. And the UN will drag it out for years. By the time they finish it’ll all be over. It’s cynical, but..? We could bomb them, but we are just bouncing the rubble around.

    Cassandra (a815b9)


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