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North Korea Totally Going to Denuclearize This Time

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:00 am

Good news, everyone!

North Korea has agreed to discuss giving up nuclear weapons! This represents a great milestone in the history of efforts to address the North Korean nuclear problem, and a vindication for Donald Trump and his policy of regularly antagonizing and denigrating Kim Jong-un. Here’s the headline, detailing North Korea’s commitment to freeze and gradually dismantle its program:

NoKo 1994

No, sorry, that’s 1994. I found it. They have agreed to end their nuclear weapons program:

NoKo 2005

Damn, wrong one again. That was 2005. Sorry about that. Here we are. They’ll be disabling their nuclear facilities by the end of the year! It’s a diplomatic victory!

NoKo 2007

Damn damn damn. That was 2007. Fourth time’s the charm. They’re suspending tests and will even allow inspectors! That should ensure compliance!

NoKo 2012

Whoops. Fourth time’s not the charm. That was 2012. This time, definitely:

Yup, that’s the one.

I owe the gag in this post, and all the screenshots of past headlines, entirely to Twitterer @neontaster. It seemed like a gag worth expanding into a post.

The point is serious, of course: it’s nice to have talks about NoKo denuclearization, I guess . . . but let’s not get carried away. They pull this stunt regularly. They get some money and some relief from sanctions and then continue on their merry way.

So enjoy the news, I suppose. But please. Place it in historical context.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

22 Responses to “North Korea Totally Going to Denuclearize This Time”

  1. this is good news since america’s corrupt incompetent tranny-infested military is woefully ill-prepared for a serious military option

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  2. You can get them to stop headlines like that if you claim it is a sign of a Trump victory.

    Dejectedhead (08a898)

  3. Diplomats enjoy being mugged.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  4. The weather window for military activity in the Koreas is just now opening. I expect the negotiations to drag on until 1) North Korea can actually put a fully operation H-bomb on an ICBM and hit what they are aiming at, or 2) the first snow.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  5. There is no longer an alternative to war. You cannot negotiate with a country whose word is sh1t. MAYBE if they allow an Army division to “inspect” their facilities in detail, but even then I’d figure they were cheating.

    Unconditional surrender or war.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  6. Great news! The whole world should rejoice, come together, and agree on an appropriate gift of cash, advanced intercontinental missile technology, and exemptions from climate change regulations in perpetuity to demonstrate global appreciation for the wonderful farsighted decision of the hermit nation’s wise leaders. Even if Donald Trump colluded with the Chicoms to get it done.

    ropelight (f543ee)

  7. Hey that’s my line from futurama.

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. You’re all so pesimistic.

    Is this comment half full, or half empty?

    See what I mean?

    Hey! We know one thing for sure. The cupboard is empty and Dear Leader’s tummy is growling.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  9. Our Captain should get a cool and clever negotiator on this; Sam Nunberg is available.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  10. When asked by a reporter at the presser w/the Swedish PM who he attribute the willingness of NoKo to negotiate, our witty Captain instantly replied in apparent jest, “Me… nobody got that.” The room was quiet, but everyone got it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  11. and a vindication for Donald Trump and his policy of regularly antagonizing and denigrating Kim Jong-un.

    antagonize: verb — cause someone to become hostile
    denigrate: verb — criticize unfairly

    If this is what you truly mean, then you’re hallucinating.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  12. I want to sell those North Koreans Aloha shirts and mangos

    mg (e114ba)

  13. 12.I want to sell those North Koreans Aloha shirts and mangos

    “Tariffic” — and Trumpian; South Korea and North Korea are still technically at war. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  14. Here’s the historical context:
    Decades ago, Buckley noted that, in arms control issues, the Sovs would put a proposal on the table which was grossly disadvantageous to America. Then the US government would negotiate with the US left.
    Eventually, there would be a treaty. The Sovs would cheat. When the US tried to react, the left would howl that we were breaking the treaty.
    So, should the Norks cheat, there is no room on the left or in the center, for the US to do what the treaty requires us to do in case of cheating.
    Somehow, there’s supposed to be more road–somehow–for the can.

    Richard Aubrey (10ef71)

  15. Yes its a religion, like the mutants worshiping the cobalt bomb in beneath the planet of the apes, Reagan angered acolytes of this cult like strobe talbotf who was a mark for victor louis

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. Neontaster is a nice Twitter acct, often very topical as well as funny.

    IMO – thinking they’ll give up nukes is nowhere near as insane (much less despicable) as giving them the nuke technology in the first place.

    harkin (4aa570)

  17. Countries that signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty were granted access to nuclear technology. All but 3 countries signed (Israel, India and Pakistan). There were supposed to be dire consequences for signing, getting nukes, then reneging.

    And yet, Iran and NK.

    One good thing: the associated protocol, where the nuclear nations promised never to used nukes against signatory non-weapon states does not apply anymore to either one of them.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  18. Frankly, it is in the interest of nearly everyone that North Korea be put down. Failing to do so — accepting their ongoing perfidy — would kill the NNPT and lead, inevitably to a race by the Second World to obtain nuclear weapons.

    A world with 50 nuclear powers is a doomed one, which was thew observation that led to the treaty in the first place.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  19. Police: Teen attempted to detonate explosive device at Pine View [St George, UT] , researched ISIS

    “The suspect was arrested and faces charges of manufacture, possession, sale, use or attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. More charges may be pending, according to police.

    It was determined that if the device had detonated, it would have caused significant injury or death.”

    harkin (4aa570)

  20. I think that “mass destruction” is overused.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  21. I think nuclear weapons are overrated.

    Nagasaki has bounced back pretty nice.

    And Hiroshima has made a near complete recovery.

    Thinking about it a little you realise that Hiroshima and Nagasaki, back in the war, were pretty much the San Francisco and Portland of Japan, filled to the brim with blood thirsty socialists.

    So what they ended up with a couple cities with brand new architecture, populated by conservative libertarian members of the John Birch society.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  22. Almost every nuclear weapon, except maybe for tactical” ones are more destructive that what the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were.

    There is also the radiation, which also affects far away places.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

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