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2/8/2018

Collusion? FBI Informant Testifies That Russians Bragged Hillary’s Influence Would Seal Uranium One Deal

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:00 am

There is new information that Russian cash funneled to the Clintons helped secure a key deal for a corrupt Russian-owned nuclear company. Sara Carter:

An informant who spent years gathering information on the Russian energy and uranium market industry for the FBI, met staff members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, House Oversight, and House Intelligence Committees on Wednesday. He gave explosive testimony on his years as an undercover informant providing information to the FBI on Russian criminal networks operating in the United States. He also contends in his testimony, and written briefs, to the FBI that Russia attempted to hide its ongoing aid to help sustain Iran’s nuclear industry, at the time the Obama administration approved the sale of 20 percent of U.S. uranium mining rights to Russia.

The informant, William D. Campbell, is represented by that perennial TV talking head Victoria Toensing, who had this to say about his appearance yesterday:

Mr. Campbell testified for over four hours until he answered every question from three Congressional committees; the Senate Judiciary, House Oversight and House Intelligence committees.

He recounted numerous times that the Russians bragged that the Clintons’ influence in the Obama administration would ensure CIFIUS approval for Uranium One. And he was right.

A quick refresher is in order on the amounts of money we’re talking about here. Recall that the New York Times, piggybacking off Peter Schweizer’s then-upcoming book, reported in 2015 on the Russian cash money that went to Billary — not just their foundation, either, but directly into Billy Boy’s pocket:

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

This is rank corruption. Hillary fans have defended the Uranium One deal by arguing that Hillary had little to nothing to do with the decision. It was made by a committee, they remind us — and the State Department was only one member. What’s more, there’s no proof of Hillary’s direct involvement, we are told. Well, Campbell’s testimony (as related by Toensing) shows that, from the Russians’ point of view, Hillary was anything but irrelevant to the process.

And guess who else felt that politics played a role? FBI agents. Remember that the deal was approved despite the fact that the major Russian players were under FBI investigation, and the fact that there existed (as the Hill put it in October) “substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering.” Campbell was furious about this, given what he had uncovered, and confronted his FBI handlers about it. Guess what they said? Forget it, Jake. It’s Swamptown:

“I was speechless and angry in October 2010 when CFIUS approved the Uranium One sale to Rosatom. I was deeply worried that TLI continued to transport sensitive uranium despite the fact that it had been compromised by the bribery scheme,” stated Campbell in his testimony to lawmakers. “I expressed these concerns repeatedly to my FBI handlers. The response I got was that “politics” was somehow involved. I remember one response I got from an agent when I asked how it was possible CFIUS would approve the Uranium One sale when the FBI could prove Rosatom was engaged in criminal conduct. His answer: “Ask your politics.”

The icing on the cake, as noted in Carter’s opening paragraph: during this whole time, Russia was helping Iran with its nucelar program.

Carter’s whole post makes for fascinating reading. I recommend reading it all. To be honest, I’d like to see more than the word of Victoria Toensing before I make any final pronouncements. But Carter’s post sends the signal that the last shoe has not yet dropped.

All of this is another reminder that one of the more corrupt individuals in American political history had a real shot at occupying the Oval Office. Unfortunately, the person who defeated her has built up his own track record of allowing foreign interests to put money into his pocket. Trump promised from the beginning that he would return foreign government payments to his hotel and other entities, but a year later there is no proof that he has — and it’s very unlikely he will provide said proof, since the Trump Organization is not even keeping track of that money. And rank partisanship has Hillary haters accepting this as inevitable and not remotely problematic. This means that no matter who won in 2016, a precedent was going to be set that foreign interests can bribe the President . . . and ultimately, there will be no accountability for it.

We had no good choice in 2016. Even with some policy upsides — and there have been plenty –we are reminded almost daily of the downsides of electing a cretin like Trump. Every so often, then, it’s helpful to be reminded as well that the alternative was a lifelong corruptocrat.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

230 Responses to “Collusion? FBI Informant Testifies That Russians Bragged Hillary’s Influence Would Seal Uranium One Deal”

  1. I won’t be surprised if this guy chokes to death on a pretzel while standing on the top rung of an eight foot ladder while changing the light bulbs in a wolf sanctuary with a pork chop tied around his neck.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  2. But… but… harvin said you weren’t talking about this. I’m so confused!

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  3. of course, this happened during the Obama administration, which was in a 50 shades way with volodya, (iytwim), those paragons of integrity, panetta, (you know his backstory) gates, turbo tim, and red queen, all were party to that,

    narciso (d1f714)

  4. “And guess who else felt that politics played a role? FBI agents.”

    Who, we will now be told are a bunch of fascists and women-haters who were out to get HIllary. By the same people who yesterday told us that attacking the FBI is unpatriotic.

    Isn’t politics grand?

    Bored Lawyer (998177)

  5. Bored Lawyer,

    Cognitive dissonance can be a learned skill like any other.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  6. You know what you shouldn’t do in a bar? Talk about Russia or the Clintons. Really anywhere outside a public blog. It’s not a healthy start to your day.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  7. but you see as with the awan bros, which has been going on for the better part of two years, this case is not only basenghi, the dog doesn’t even exist,

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. More whiplashwhatabouthillary?

    Nonetheless, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, known as CFIUS, approved the deal by a unanimous vote, according to public reports. Clinton was just one member of the nine member CFIUS by virtue of her role as Secretary of State. The other eight members of CFIUS came from Treasury, Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, Energy, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the Office of Science & Technology, and the Justice Department.
    Defenders of the deal point out that the Russians don’t have a license to export the uranium out of the U.S., and that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission found no risk to national security. Clinton has said she was not involved in the deliberations and played no role in the decision. Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the Times that he represented the department on the committee, and that “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.esquire.com/news-politics/amp14477730/trump-uranium-one-republicans-russia/

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  9. I keep reading comments that say FBI agents are majorly Republican but even so that doesn’t make for equal distribution.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  10. Pinandpuller,

    One of the several reasons I stay out of bars completely.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  11. See?

    Even Sasha is confused.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  12. Esquire? You really pick the best sources. Sorry, cherry-pick.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  13. I mentioned the other worthies, themselves, of course no one has bothered to ask them why they went along, for a piece of the action,

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. Hillary’s no Seven of Nine you can rest assured. I still think the LEGO Batman mayor was based on her.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  15. Your new Sasha. Ketchup!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  16. *thinks*

    *thinks*

    *thinks*

    No, can’t do a 24 hour ban, even for Leviticus. Wouldn’t be right.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  17. Stashiu3

    That season is over amigo.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  18. It’s as big as Seth Rich and Pizzagate.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  19. I’m new? Interesting.

    *you’re (pet peeve, not real grammar police yet, no badge)

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  20. Well then, stale or needing a time up.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  21. Tune up…

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  22. Hey GGB you should start trying to forget two bad Ideas for every good idea you have, like regulations.

    OK, so we aren’t here all day just get started on forgetting two bad ideas. Baby steps.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  23. Ben burn,

    Speaking from ignorance is not a virtue. Doing it repeatedly… less so.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  24. he has been schumer’s minime, like fred Thompson was howard keel’s in no way out,

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/08/time-put-end-emo-james-comey/

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. I think Hillary sought high office just so people would have to call her “honorable”. I really do.

    Pinandpuller (3d6c0b)

  26. Good ideas don’t leave me time for bad ideas. Help me out pin.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  27. if she were younger, she’s be alice krige from sleepwalkers, also the borg queen from first contact,

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. I’m doing my best to kill brain cells with marijeewanna and be more competitive with all the local brain power, pin.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  29. why couldn’t this story, get any traction, maybe this was why:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/jonathan-m-winer

    apco, like fusion gps, specialized in ‘covering with a cloth’ they repped the grishenko and uranium one,

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. . What’s more, there’s no proof of Hillary’s direct involvement, we are told.

    NO emails from Hillary to anyone else at the State Department on this topic.

    All this was before the Euromaidan Revolution in February, 2014. Vladimir Putin blamed Vicoria Nuland for that and thought she was acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton. Putin broke from Hillary – that’s the key point.

    And Christopher Steele never let on he was working for the Democrats. He was probably supplied with information because they wanted him to have confidence in his sources. The information had probably never been accurate, going back years.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  31. you don’t think apco and the podesta group lobbied them, sammeh, now who’s being naïve,

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. At least Hillary would’ve had a better head of hair.

    random viking (64e08b)

  33. At least Hillary would’ve had a better head of hair.
    random viking (64e08b) — 2/8/2018 @ 10:03 am

    Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  34. Ben burn, the Russians might not be able to legally export the uranium, but they sure could do a pretty good job doing so illegally. I can’t start from the proposition that the Russians are rotten, dishonest, bribing, crooks and then assume they will obey the law. I expect the Russians could run rings around American export controls.

    More importantly, the Russians now have the ability to destroy Uranium stock piles, destroy the mines, refineries and all the equipment.

    Fred Z (05d938)

  35. some of it did end up in Europe, trans logistics, the company founded by a south African diplomat, who went Norwegian blue in 2009, and his computer was trashed, was notorious for mishandling cargoes of this nature,

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. 14, I’d rather meet the inspiration behind LEGO Barbara Gordon (commissioner Gordon’s daughter).

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  37. Good post, Patterico.

    Let’s see if this goes anywhere. I’d rather have this not to be something that can happen in America, but if it’s true there should be some spankings.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. You don’t have to accept just Toensing’s word. Campbell submitted a lengthy written statement, and even though he answered questions behind closed doors, his written statement has been leaked.

    And when the inevitable excuse is offered that the deal on the ownership of Uranium One didn’t change the fact that exports of uranium are tightly controlled, thus the deal isn’t really the same as transferring actual control of the uranium deposits to the Russians with respect to their use, remember that yellow cake was exported to Canada, and it thereafter disappeared — likely headed for Asia or the Middle East.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  39. If Hillary had been elected, we’d be mired in a huge ground war in Syria right now. Trump is far from perfect, but he’s kept our role in Syria to a minimum.

    MacGruber (15cfac)

  40. Fred z

    I have no affection for Putin and the real threat even Patterico ignores is..
    CYBER in nature.not mineral.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  41. Here from Fox is a bit more detail, especially regarding APCO.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/08/informant-says-moscow-paid-millions-in-bid-to-influence-clinton.amp.html

    But what about the claim that Obama (and Holder) kept everyone in the dark about the Russian corruption to make sure U-One was approved in furtherance of his own agenda? I suspect the FBI agent’s remark about “ask your politics”referred to that. If Obama did that, the corruption lied with him, and implies that Hillary’s influence was actually irrelevant.

    Of course, that does not mean Putin kept Hillary on retainer for other purposes.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  42. The corruption *lay* with him. My inner Grammar DI got drowsy from lunch.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  43. Stashiu3

    Good Guy Ben is proof of Punctuated Equalibrium. He sprung into the commentariat record a fully formed a$$hole and hasn’t evolved a bit. Scientists call that a “Dead End”.

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  44. Thanks pin.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  45. Kishnevi @41 and 42: I think your message needs anotehr correction:

    …that does not mean Putin kept Hillary on retainer for other purposes

    probably should go:

    that does not mean THAT Putin DID NOT kept Hillary on retainer for other purposes. (other than specifically because of Uranium One)

    And, of course, by 2016, he had definitely broken with her.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  46. You’re right Sammy. I guess I need to put my Grammar DI on fatigue duty.

    Meanwhile, for benefit of Mr. MacGruber
    https://mobile.twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/961617576848740352

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  47. a precedent was going to be set that foreign interests can bribe the President

    There’s a TON more evidence that the sleazy FBI lied to procure a FISA warrant than there is that foreigners bribed President Trump by renting a hotel room.

    But you refuse to credit the former and embrace the latter wholeheartedly.

    This is unlogical, and I abjure this.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  48. The universe is tilting. I keep finding myself in agreement with happyfeet.

    On the plus side, I was healthy enough to bring in fifteen 42-pound bags of cat litter from Costco that my wife wanted. A year ago, no way.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  49. This is but one piece of the fraud that is the Clinton Foundation. Here is where HRC’s largest jeopardy lies.

    I do NOT trust Congress a whit when it comes to handling this. No transcript? Witness not sworn? This whole thing cuts too close to BHO, who is untouchable in their eyes. If ever a special counsel were warranted, this is the case.

    Why the animus for VT? I have found her to be a very careful commentator and her public representation of folks like Campbell to be quite responsible. Her husband Joe DiGenova, a tough former U.S. Attorney, is a bigtime straight shooter. They are an impressive couple, in my eyes.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  50. Ed from SFV. Your problem in the last graf is because you don’t get the ambience. Trumps the antiChrist. No exceptions. Anything that makes somebody else look bad….is unacceptable. Because then Trump wouldn’t be the antiChrist without exception. Can’t have that.

    Richard Aubrey (d7bc30)

  51. Good post and about time.

    Don’t forget the Clintons used Michael Isikoff to smear Campbell back in Nov.:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/doubts-surface-key-witness-uranium-one-probe-clinton-203614558.html

    harkin (75fedf)

  52. keep finding myself in agreement with happyfeet.

    It’s called devolution

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  53. Pretty good post. Thanks.

    Locke (3c9e5e)

  54. The travel ban curiously excluded Muslim countries that had produced terrorists, but which also produced deals with the Trump Organization.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956

    Partisans can no doubt find reasons that this isn’t corrupt. Similarly, Hillary’s partisans argue that she was not affected by the cash she and Billy Boy got. But the point is that we should not have to worry about whether we can prove that Presidents or other public officials are affected by the foreign money they receive. They just shouldn’t take it.

    Patterico (499331)

  55. Good post and about time.

    I know, right? That Sara Carter post had been up since February 7 and I waited until February 8 to post about it. About damn time is right!

    Patterico (499331)

  56. About damn time is right!
    Patterico (499331) — 2/8/2018 @ 1:23 pm

    Lol! Careful, those edges are sharp!

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  57. There’s a TON more evidence that the sleazy FBI lied to procure a FISA warrant than there is that foreigners bribed President Trump by renting a hotel room.

    But you refuse to credit the former and embrace the latter wholeheartedly.

    Partisan memos are not evidence no matter how much you claim they are.

    Foreigners put money in Trump’a pocket and he lied about giving it back and his decisions may be influenced. Bribery? Call it what you will but unlike the FISA evidence we actually get to see the evidence supporting my assertion. So abjure all you like but you are not a person to be taken seriously and your point is partisan to the extent you rely on a partisan memo.

    Patterico (499331)

  58. I call Boomers.

    Bang Gunley (5a4596)

  59. first of all mister do you even know how Trump hotels work

    do they all have the same revenue model?

    does the Trump organization manage these businesses as wholly-owned properties

    or in some cases are they just branding the hotel and letting others operate it

    are the instances where they operate and brand the hotel for a fixed fee

    and what is the profit margin on a booked room

    if there’s debt associated with the hotel, it could very well be that cash would never leave the business for many many moons

    there are SO many things for which we must consider before we can begin to delineate anything we could point to and recognize as bribery

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. oops are *there* instances where they operate…

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. “To be honest, I’d like to see more than the word of Victoria Toensing before I make any final pronouncements.”

    Strange. Are you saying she is not reporting what her client — the informant — has said in court?

    jb (a3c1bc)

  62. Right he was following the designations of the seven countries from the 2016 omnibus.

    narciso (d1f714)

  63. This is rank corruption.

    There is no denying that the Clintons are corrupt, but unless somebody comes up with evidence that Hillary did something to influence the CIFIUS decision, which the State Department representative to CIFIUS categorically denies, I don’t see the “there” here.

    If the Russians want to donate money to the Clintons’ non-profit charity (the NYT article says the Clintons did not disclose the donations, but all financial records of non-profit organizations are open to the public on demand) and line Bubba’s pockets, there is nothing inherently corrupt about it, unless there was an illegal quid pro quo.

    If the Russians were trying to sell stock in the company, it seems likely they would play up, if not wildly exaggerate, their political connections to entice investors. It seems more likely to me that they were trying to curry favor for PR purposes – culiminating in Slick Willy’s speech, just as Trump shoveled money to Clinton Foundation to bribe them into attending his (most recent) wedding.

    I’m not saying there wasn’t a quid pro quo, but there is zero evidence of it, and it frankly doesn’t make much sense, since Hillary could not, even if she wanted to, prevent the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, Director of National Intelligence, etc, from blocking approval of the transaction.

    Dave (445e97)

  64. unless somebody comes up with evidence that Hillary did something to influence the CIFIUS decision, which the State Department representative to CIFIUS categorically denies, I don’t see the “there” here.

    Maybe you can offer up a valid reason to sell those mining rights to Russia, other than quid pro quo.

    random viking (64e08b)

  65. Maybe you can offer up a valid reason to sell those mining rights to Russia, other than quid pro quo.

    The default is “sell” unless there’s a reason not to. Was there a reason not to?

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  66. Well…yeah. Uranium is a commodity you want in the hands of certain entities. Was that not clear?

    random viking (64e08b)

  67. Hot dog! This is the post that I have been waiting for.

    AZ Bob (f60c80)

  68. The US imports 90% of its uranium. 14% of those imports come from Russia, and 24% comes from Kazakhstan (very nice).

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  69. Your Urban Dictionary Word of the Day brought to you by Ben Burn:

    triflin
    Possibly the most overused and least understood word in the urban lexicon. Literally means lazy or prodigal (wasting cash mo-nay). Frequently used to mean anything from “cheatin” to “busy bodied”
    He ain’t nothin but a trifflin dawg

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  70. That Sara Carter post had been up since February 7 and I waited until February 8 to post about it. About damn time is right!

    But Trump’s noggin!!

    harkin (75fedf)

  71. 23,860.46 −1,032.89 (4.15%)

    Guess what?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  72. Trumps noggin again.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  73. Sarah carter has been on point more often none, uncovering the motive why mccabe used prietap and laufman to go after flynn

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. Rand Paul is giving a speech on the Senate floor worthy of a stand alone post.

    Not a criticism. Just an enthusiastic suggestion.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  75. He’ll crush them with his deft ribbing.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  76. Sara Carter was on the Sean Hannity radio show today during the 4 pm (EST) hour

    the Clintons’ influence in the Obama administration

    That’s one easy way this makes sense. In which case this is much bigger than Uranium One and this is not a small conspiracy.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  77. Sammy:

    Wait until Urinal One hits Fox News

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  78. Could be worse you know like Uranus One

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  79. Could it be, the peregruskha was really a way to mask the inducement convoyed through podesta and weber and apco meaning Jonathan winer

    narciso (d1f714)

  80. 63. Dave (445e97) — 2/8/2018 @ 2:08 pm

    but unless somebody comes up with evidence that Hillary did something to influence the CIFIUS decision,

    They havem but not how it was done. Or for that matter, exactly what was done.

    The evidence is that one person testified that the Russians believed it, and made some contemporaneous predictions that showed he knows what he was talking about. He also testified he was told by an FBI agent, that it was “politics.” (which actually might have made things look like they were more corrupt than they were)

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  81. I don’t see how GGB could find fault with Rand Paul’s speech but I’m certain to be disappointed.

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  82. Speeches impress You?

    Now I’m truly unimpressed.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  83. 86

    Shorter…s-l-o-w-l-y

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  84. Maybe you can offer up a valid reason to sell those mining rights to Russia, other than quid pro quo.

    Because the owner of a piece of property has the right to dispose of it in whatever manner he/she sees fit?

    And was there also a quid pro quo on the part of the other 15 agencies on CIFIUS that didn’t object to the sale either?

    Well…yeah. Uranium is a commodity you want in the hands of certain entities.

    Do you think they moved the mine to Russia after the sale?

    Dave (445e97)

  85. If the Russians want to donate money to the Clintons’ non-profit charity (the NYT article says the Clintons did not disclose the donations, but all financial records of non-profit organizations are open to the public on demand) and line Bubba’s pockets, there is nothing inherently corrupt about it, unless there was an illegal quid pro quo.

    Come on! Coming from Vladimir Putin’s Russia, this inherently corrupt.

    `I’m not saying there wasn’t a quid pro quo, but there is zero evidence of it,

    We know there was a quid That was all the money the Clintons got.

    We just don’t know what the quo was.

    and it frankly doesn’t make much sense, since Hillary could not, even if she wanted to, prevent the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, Director of National Intelligence, etc, from blocking approval of the transaction.

    That way it doesn’t work. That version of things indeed doesn’t make sense.

    But…

    A) She could have given them very valuable lobbying advice, on what to say, and on timing.

    B) Maybe she could have STOPPED it, but he and she were paid off to make sure she didn’t.

    C) She could have been tied into a network.

    D) The Clintons could have been on retainer for mostly or entirely unrelated reasons.

    E) The sale was never really in jeopardy, but the Clintons could have oversold their influence to the Russians.

    What was F? That the Russians were trying to sell stock??

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  86. Dave – change Clinton to Bush in this exact same scenario. Or change it to Trump. And then tell anyone while keeping a straight face, that the left and the MFM would just shrug their shoulders and brush it off.

    JD (0ca7b8)

  87. Rand Paul snapped back quicker than Harry Reid. He needs exercise equipment like he needs a fentanyl patch and a ticket on Amtrack.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  88. Senator Paul has his moments that’s for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. Was certain Rand Paul was channeling Patterico on the Senate floor today.

    Credit due to CNN for at least piping out 30 minutes of his Senate presentation to viewers but shame on Fox for bigfooting it; same shame to MSNBC. Too many of these self-important talking heads seeking face time. What Paul was saying to the Senate, viewers and voters watching, for the most part, was honest– and worth a listen. If/when CSPAN reruns it, catch it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. It occurred to me afterward that there could have been corruption, of a slightly different variety, even if Hillary did nothing to influence the decision.

    It’s conceivable they could have made assurances to the Russians, and taken their money, without any intention of actually doing anything on their behalf. Merely promising to use Hillary’s influence as Secretary of State in return for payment would be a crime.

    The Clintons have been cozying up to people and pretending to be their best friends in return for lucre for decades though. I was reminded of the comic book magnate, Peter Paul, who organized a gala fundraiser for them before 2000 Democratic convention, which cost him $2M, in the hopes of recruiting Bill to be a “rainmaker” for his company after leaving office. They dropped him like a rock when it emerged, a few days later, that he was a convicted felon.

    Whether it’s corruption or “merely” sleaze in this case is impossible to determine conclusively, though.

    Dave (445e97)

  91. @90

    Your argument is “the left would behave just as irrationally as the right if the principals were reversed.” This might be correct, but it’s not an argument on the merits of the sale.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  92. 93. This is what seems to be going on in Washington:

    1) Trump’s veto threat has separated the budget and the DACA (or immigration) bills. Trump has said he will veto any bill that combines the two issues.

    2) Senators have reached a compromise on the budget in about the only way they can – more money is spent.

    3) Senate Majority Leader McConnell will bring to the floor any immigration bill that is likely to get 60 Senate votes. This will be brought to a vote after the budget bill passes, but will have been worked out before.

    4) Senators are ignoring the possibility that the House will not pass, or that Donald Trump will veto, an immigration bill. Probably they figure Trump will not veto any bill that passes the House.

    5) In the meantime the House is planning to pass a continuing resolution that will go to march 19 – significantly, that is past March 5 DACA expiration date.

    6) The Senate may include elements of a budget deal in a continuing resolution. The Senate budget plan gets rid of all leverage – overall spending is set through the entire next fiscal year – till september, 2019, the military gets a budget increase, and is not tied to domestic spending, and the debt ceiling is increased until March, 2019. The Children’s Health Insurance Program gets extended for four years on toip of the six years already agreed to in the last continuing resolution.

    7) Some House Republicans oppose the budget deal. They have support from a few Senators who cannot stop it in the Senate, but they can in the House because Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi wants a guaranty from House Speaker Paul Ryan that an immigration bill will be brought to the House floor after a budget bill passes, or she and many other Democrats will not vote for the continuing resolution.

    8) Any immigration bill that can pass the Senate can pass the House, provided that the speaker is willing to have a bill pass that more Republicans vote against than for.

    9) But House speaker Paul Ryan wants to know that President Trump will not veto it.

    10) Trump probably will not veto anything that a majority of House Republicans votes for, although not even that is guaranteed.

    11) Everybody’s assuming an immigration deal would involve an extension and even expansion of DACA combined with more money for the Border Patrol and steps toward a border wall.

    12) They are not listening to what Trump says. Trump wants more. He also wants a reduction in legal immigration. He wants an end to family reunification that involve parents, siblings an adult children, leaving only spouses and minor children. he wants an end to the visa lottery. Democrats are willing to concede on some of that (ending or modifying the visa lottery, and not allowing any more family members other than spouses and minor children to apply, but not discarding the people on the waiting list but that would only be exchange for almost complete amnesty and increases in both temporary and permanent visas in other categories)

    13) The federal government will shut down, and will stay shut down until after the November election, unless somebody caves in, or gets outmanuvered.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  93. Their man Laurence summers ran the crew that looted the country dry in the 90s, impugning the image of reform which in part why you ended with putin.

    narciso (d1f714)

  94. Well if you missed Henry V’s speech, and it was great GGB, it’s probably because you got hanged for rapine the French Hens.

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  95. Toensing and her husband DiGenova are still living down their thumbs up on the selection of Eric “Who Stole My Chin” Holder for AGOTUS.

    Having said that, the Clinton’s corruption and avarice is hard to top.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  96. ConDave on teh grift…

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  97. Amd Mccarthy hasn’t lived down his endorsement of the real Michael Clayton,

    narciso (d1f714)

  98. Some of the names on the CFIUS Board at the time of approval:

    Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, Timothy Geithner, Robert M. Gates, Penny Pritzker, Steven Chu, John P Holdren.

    Just your garden variety underbosses and capos in the Clinton crime family.

    Recap: $145 million makes its way to the Clinton Foundation coffers from those associated with Uranium One and UrAsia. Giustra kicked in another $2.5 million, and Bubba gets $500K for flappin’ his gums for 20 mins during an all-expenses paid trip to Moscow.

    Conclusion: This is merely sleaze.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  99. Whitewater was way worser than Iran/Contra because….Clintons.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  100. 97… narciso, we’ve talked about this before, but I recall reading a book several years ago – author, I forget – but what I read in it left me shaking my head and thinking it was a miracle we didn’t go to war with Russia, given the pillaging of their treasury by the Clinton administration.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  101. Patrick — come on over to the Trump bandwagon. You won’t like the company you are keeping now:

    A former official with the Democratic National Committee has worked in recent months with a convicted domestic terrorist-turned-activist known as the “Speedway Bomber” to gather information on Donald Trump, The Daily Caller has learned.

    That work culminated in a Washington, D.C. meeting in December between the ex-DNC operative, Alexandra Chalupa, the convicted bomber, Brett Kimberlin, and a South Africa-born Israeli man named Yoni Ariel.

    Ariel, whose real name is Jonathan Schwartz, traveled to Washington, D.C. to brief Chalupa and Kimberlin on his knowledge of Russia’s activities during the campaign.

    Chalupa, an activist of Ukrainian heritage who is strongly opposed to Trump, also directed Ariel to the Justice Department, sources told TheDC.

    From the Daily Caller.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  102. Was that from teh Daily Caller
    Shipwreck?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  103. :) :) :)

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  104. Donald Trump currently has Chucky Schumer’s d!ck in his pocket. He took it from him during the gov’t shutdown over DACA a couple weeks ago, and he’s decided to keep it now with the 2 year budget agreement that doesn’t give Schumer anything on DACA.

    He’s going to start keeping it in a box on his desk, and listen to Schumer ask to have it back every time he visits.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  105. Ben — yeah, but this part is from Buzzfeed:

    Ariel’s connection to Kimberlin was first reported by BuzzFeed News last week, though Chalupa’s involvement with the bomber-activist is a new revelation.

    According to BuzzFeed, Ariel flew to Rome on the third week of January to purchase a set of documents purporting to show that ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson paid Trump’s company more than $1.5 billion in June, seemingly to secure the position of secretary of state in a Trump administration.

    Ariel, 60, paid $9,000 for the documents, which included copies of wire transfers and bank documents laying out a transactions involving ExxonMobil and a Chinese mining company.

    After receiving the documents from a source unnamed in its report, BuzzFeed determined that the documents were part of an elaborate hoax involving shady businessmen, Italian diplomats, Democratic operatives, Kimberlin and Ariel.

    I got more if you want to choke on hit.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  106. Thanks for the detail shipwreck but the critical mass dwarfs the minutiae. Too much data has overtaken it. Isn’t this akin to strategy for Harvey Weinsteins defense?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  107. GGB

    So are you doing a Cornish Game Hen for Valentines Day again?

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  108. I will try to pick up tomorrow.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  109. Shipwrecked – they don’t care about the facts. It’s tribal.

    JD (0ca7b8)

  110. Right but the latest detail was shearer was the conduit for info, from foreign sources like chalupa

    narciso (d1f714)

  111. So mark Warner was trying for his own piece of the action, said he ever do any favors for deripasha.

    narciso (d1f714)

  112. And, like that, teh Rear Admiral clocked out, his shift was over. Now it’s off to Pilates for the poor sob…

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  113. 113… lol… no, gotta be a pullet…

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  114. Ben, do you thing tossing scratch mix on the consent form makes you for the ethical treatment of animals?

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  115. I would say that both parties failed in 2016, but they had actually failed some time earlier. That someone like Trump could see HOW AND WHERE they failed, and parlay that insight into the Oval Office is the real disgrace, shared by both major parties.

    The GOP has a chance in the 2020 primaries to replace Trump, but they had better not think that the status quo ante will fly. They need to convince the primary voters that shunned the GOP establishment that any alternative will deal with issues Trump raised (and is unable to act on, being who he is).

    Particularly the idea that the US government owes its first duty to US citizens, and everyone else comes third.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  116. No don’t pick up Ben Burn.

    Runaways I should what I’m saying.

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  117. Trump said on the first debate what his secret was. He spent a year talking to people and listening to what they wanted. The Central Committees talked to their hands.

    nk (dbc370)

  118. Is what I’m saying.

    Pinandpuller (7c71ef)

  119. “ lol… no, gotta be a pullet…”

    How about a capon?

    harkin (75fedf)

  120. Chris Hayes
    @chrislhayes
    Just to be clear, Rand Paul doesn’t care about deficits, but rather *spending.* He just voted for $1.5 trillion in deficit-financed tax cuts.

    —-

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    Tax cuts are not deficit spending. They are government stealing less of my money.

    harkin (75fedf)

  121. If so, it’s possible the FBI has the contents of the full conversation between Bannon and Page, which reportedly focused heavily on the dossier.

    so now the dirty corrupt FBI is working with douchebag war hero slut John McCain to create a fake hooker urination dossier – taking it to a sleazy slutboy FISA judge – and then spying on the Trump campaign’s conversations about cowardpig McCain’s sleazy hooker urination dossier

    this is like the end of Tootsie

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  122. Right bannon was with Ted Cruz at the time, did we forget the treason allegation already. Now of course there is Cambridge analytica that bannon was somewhat connected with, whose major player tchenguiz was being stalked by Harvey weinsteins mossad tackleshop black cube.
    E

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. Speaking of t-waffles, class act Janet Yellin says as she’s walking out the door, “stocks are over-valued and oh, by the way, so’s commercial real estate.”

    Typical grenade toss by a Dimocrat, never caring about the damage done.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  124. Is now they used a time machine for a conversation in January on a warrant signed by sally Yates in october, Shirley they can’t be serious

    narciso (d1f714)

  125. Well, Colonel she’s right about both but I’ve been going crazy with stock. I cleared 17k on three trades before noon today. I did get locked out of several trades during the afternoon when things got nuts. All in all it was another good day. If they weren’t screwing with the Level II trade platforms (probably to make room for the big commercial traders) I could have done so much more. I had a couple winners go negative on me when they held up the sell for several seconds too long.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  126. Yes, Hoagie, she may have been. I question the timing.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  127. How widespread do you think short trades are, can you see why some might have reservations. Also the so caller smartest men in the room zuck brin gates, got burned as well.

    narciso (d1f714)

  128. “Nancy Pelosi spoke for eight hours yesterday — and even some of her own colleagues don’t quite know why. She took advantage of a rarely used privilege which allows House caucus leaders to hold the floor indefinitely. Pelosi insisted that she would keep talking until Paul Ryan agreed to schedule a vote on a DACA compromise and would block any attempt to pass a budget until he did.

    That sounded great … right up until her negotiating partner Chuck Schumer announced a budget deal without linkage to the “dreamers” issue in the middle of her filibuster. Now Pelosi’s colleagues wonder whether she intended to move the issue at all, or whether she was covering her behind after selling them out…..”

    harkin (75fedf)

  129. I’m seeing Ben Burn as a cross between Psycho and A Rose for Emily. There was a real Ben at one time. One day he climbed the stairs and never came down.

    By day Emily takes on his old abusive persona and logs on the internet to berate people with his voice in her head. By night she goes back upstairs to lay beside his mouldering body.

    Or if you prefer Arsenic and Old Lace, by night he goes downstairs and digs locks for missing Panamanian sex workers.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  130. Patrick — come on over to the Trump bandwagon. You won’t like the company you are keeping now:

    Huh? What company? I don’t understand WTF this is supposed to mean.

    Patterico (6879ca)

  131. But Trump’s noggin!!

    Poor baby had to wait a few extra hours for his Hillary bashing post!

    Patterico (6879ca)

  132. With the required Trump-bashing paragraph tacked on, how surprising.

    harkin (75fedf)

  133. If you think BM is going to report any negative stuff about this or any other story about Dems think again

    Bang Gunley (5a4596)

  134. On the payroll

    Bang Gunley (5a4596)

  135. With the required Trump-bashing paragraph tacked on, how surprising.

    Awww

    Patterico (115b1f)

  136. Since you need to be prodded sometimes, here’s another one for you:

    “Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been leading a congressional investigation into President Trump’s alleged ties to Russia, had extensive contact last year with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch who was offering Warner access to former British spy and dossier author Christopher Steele,”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/08/democratic-sen-mark-warner-texted-with-russian-oligarch-lobbyist-in-effort-to-contact-dossier-author-christopher-steele.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

    harkin (75fedf)

  137. 140 — if true, that’s an policy violation over which an agent loses his security clearance.

    You know what you call an FBI Counter-Intelligence agent who loses his security clearance??

    A bank fraud investigator.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  138. It seems that projection is one of the Dems go-to rhetorical tricks. They accuse their opponents of doing what they are themselves doing.

    JD (b30059)

  139. Umm, congress was trying to get Steele to testify. How is it a scandal that Warner tried to get in contact with him?

    Dave (445e97)

  140. Yes but its reaching scream level of absurdity ‘the call is coming from I aide the house’ were quiet nearly at the get smart stage, and I mean the 2007 film with Stephen Cornell.

    narciso (d1f714)

  141. Dave – the people accusing other of collusion have more financial ties and actual interaction it’s the Russians than the people they are accusingly. It’s a farce.

    JD (b30059)

  142. “Hello max largo, do you know how to get a hold of James bond, yesi’ll hold’

    narciso (d1f714)

  143. Partisan memos are not evidence no matter how much you claim they are.

    Partisan memos that quote large unredacted sections of the official record are pretty good evidence. The official record itself would be better but it’s stamped classified and Hillary’s not around to let everyone see it.

    Frankly, Pat the only reason you go on about “partisanship” is that you’re currently without party. Sour grapes more than high principle, I think.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  144. that’s an policy violation over which an agent loses his security clearance

    lol

    as if dirty fbi slutboy actions had consequences

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  145. Narcisco- the Dems wouldn’t have any problem reaching out to them, they were on their payroll.

    JD (b30059)

  146. There is no denying that the Clintons are corrupt, but unless somebody comes up with evidence that Hillary did something to influence the CIFIUS decision, which the State Department representative to CIFIUS categorically denies, I don’t see the “there” here.

    And Al Capone never ran rum, as there was never any [living] evidence that he did so, and all his representatives denied it completely, so I guess he was innocent, too.

    That Hillary’s henchpeople and bagbeings deny the corruption does not have any probative value.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  147. Frankly, Pat the only reason you go on about “partisanship” is that you’re currently without party. Sour grapes more than high principle, I think.

    I don’t even know what that means. How did I end up without a party? Did they kick me out? I don’t think so. They sure do they keep sending me stuff. Then what happened? Nothing to do with principle, of that Kevin M will assure you!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  148. Yes, but you have to illustrate the absurdity, of. Course a cable exec like Warner didnt have that much of a grasp.

    The dossier want meant to be seen in public, only furtively whispered. Otherwise you run a foul of the dilemma steel faces in the UK. He can’t assert its true over there, he has to say it is true over here.

    narciso (d1f714)

  149. Speaking of t-waffles, class act Janet Yellin says as she’s walking out the door, “stocks are over-valued and oh, by the way, so’s commercial real estate.”

    Typical grenade toss by a Dimocrat, never caring about the damage done.

    Well, she’s right.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  150. Dave – change Clinton to Bush in this exact same scenario. Or change it to Trump. And then tell anyone while keeping a straight face, that the left and the MFM would just shrug their shoulders and brush it off.

    Hell, DAVE wouldn’t shrug his shoulders or brush it off. Have you SEEN his ravings about Trump and the Russians?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  151. When did us puny earthlings vet clued in, although Warner was going on like a bad production of gore vidals the best man, one hoax to object.

    narciso (d1f714)

  152. and who does harvardtrash janet think is responsible i wonder?

    do you wonder?

    i sure do!

    SO curious but i bet slutboy bezos is gonna have a tell-all kindlebook for to buy tooty sweet

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  153. Dave – the people accusing other of collusion have more financial ties and actual interaction it’s the Russians than the people they are accusingly.

    Warner’s contact was an American lobbyist who worked for a Russian for two years, in 2009 and 2010.

    Just to refresh your memory, Donald Trump consummated a high profile business venture with a personal trip to Moscow as recently as 2013.

    So your assertion is not really backed up by the facts.

    If you read the article, rather than the Trumpkin click-bait headline, Warner was initially contacted by the lobbyist, and disclosed the exchange to the senate committee last June.

    Dave (445e97)

  154. Patterico–

    The party left you and you left it the day they chose Trump. Shall we go back to when that wasn’t true and run the partisan-o-meter past your posts? “partisan” and “tribal” is a rather assinine (and frankly insulting) charge that you keep throwing out at the people who still care.

    Just because you’ve gotten cynical doesn’t mean we all have to now.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  155. Why would he know anything about steele, oh they were recipients of Clinton foundation funds. You contradict yourself Dave. why would trump
    need page or papafob, those were the excuses for the fisa warrant after all.

    narciso (d1f714)

  156. President Trump has done the best policies this greasy eff-toy country has seen our whole lives

    (captain food stamp left him a lot of low-hanging fruit to be sure)

    but there are very few slutmericans what get to live in such heady exciting times

    times of clarity

    times of vigor

    and unapologetically so

    it may be brief

    but the Trump Interregnum is, and will be, an epoch unto itself

    so say we all

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  157. Kevin M says:

    The party left you and you left it the day they chose Trump. Shall we go back to when that wasn’t true and run the partisan-o-meter past your posts? “partisan” and “tribal” is a rather assinine (and frankly insulting) charge that you keep throwing out at the people who still care.

    Two comments later happyfeet says:

    President Trump has done the best policies this greasy eff-toy country has seen our whole lives

    (captain food stamp left him a lot of low-hanging fruit to be sure)

    but there are very few slutmericans what get to live in such heady exciting times

    times of clarity

    times of vigor

    and unapologetically so

    it may be brief

    but the Trump Interregnum is, and will be, an epoch unto itself

    so say we all

    I’ll just leave it there, other than to note: I care. But I care about the stuff I have always cared about, instead of caring about Donald Trump. See the difference?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  158. I am not happyfeet and he is not the commenters you are referring to when you say “tribal.” hf has a ways to go to rise to “tribal.”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  159. Shall we go back to when that wasn’t true and run the partisan-o-meter past your posts? “partisan” and “tribal” is a rather assinine (and frankly insulting) charge that you keep throwing out at the people who still care.

    Just because you’ve gotten cynical doesn’t mean we all have to now.

    Cynical, or clear-eyed?

    As someone who, like Patrick, severed life-long affiliation with the GOP thanks to Trump, it is really an eye-opening and liberating experience not to feel obligated to swallow every partisan (meaning: propaganda for one side which leaves out relevant, countervailing facts) statement and attack uncritically.

    The Democrats provide more than ample material to criticize them without weakening the case by making sh*t up.

    And Trump, Nunes, Hannity and the other bald-faced liars in the GOP (unfortunately, thanks to Trump, a growth demographic) provide plenty of justification for maintaining a healthy skepticism of what you read and hear coming from “our” side.

    Dave (445e97)

  160. I don’t trust the Russians, I wonder why, cause they turned my parents home into a police state, but Obama did his little buddy Biden did so did panetta who was a fellow traveler when it counted. And Kerry was repeating sovust propaganda so often he should have had subtitles.

    narciso (d1f714)

  161. Dave – I always knew that the Miss Universe pageant was a front for nefarious international espionage. And it is mind boggling that anyone involved in high profile high dollar real estate would ever consider something in Moscow.

    JD (b30059)

  162. whatever happened to the refreshments

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  163. i think we’re getting more snowflakes than the chicago overlords planned upon

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  164. link for #172

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  165. 167
    That Tablet article is total b#$$$5t. The author deserves being bastinanoed with the full score.

    Wagner was an anti-Semite, but Parsifal is about totally different things. the very first performance was conducted by a Jew, incidentally.

    If you want the best performance ever , put “knappertsbusch parsifal naxos” into Patterico’s Amazon widget. If you want a stereo recording, put “solti Parsifal” into the widget.

    Kishnevi (27beb6)

  166. I though it seemed dodgy but this is what art criticism has devolved to, maybe Glenn Simpson is writing the copy.

    narciso (d1f714)

  167. SHUTDOWN!” – Jim Lovell [Tom Hanks] ‘Apollo 13′ 1995

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  168. 157… again, I question the timing. She could’ve said the same thing a year or two ago. She chose to do it when she left, as a little F-you to her fellow Americans.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  169. she’s a nasty harvardtrash skank no lie my brotha

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  170. and nobody ever #metooed her skank ass

    she’s just plain old bitter

    happyfeet (28a91b)


  171. Umm, congress was trying to get Steele to testify. How is it a scandal that Warner tried to get in contact with him?

    Dave (445e97) — 2/8/2018 @ 7:46 pm

    New phone. Who dis?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  172. Why did they not want open communication, of course steele w the tool they paid for.

    narciso (d1f714)

  173. Wagner was an anti-Semite,

    Kishnevi (27beb6) — 2/8/2018 @ 8:54 pm

    Other than that how was the opera?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  174. wagner drowned natalie to where that was pretty much that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  175. and now sputumberg wants to remake the story of the west side

    i don’t think i have the attention span for that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  176. That is like opening the arc and remember what happened to belloq

    narciso (d1f714)

  177. Fourth-Lady-in-waiting Hope Hicks sure knows how to pick ’em, eh?

    First she dates known woman-beater Corey Lewandowski, and now a guy who brutalized not just one (like Trump), but two of his former wives.

    Keep Hope alive!

    Dave (445e97)

  178. 157… again, I question the timing. She could’ve said the same thing a year or two ago. She chose to do it when she left, as a little F-you to her fellow Americans.

    I’m not here to defend Janet Yellin for cripes’ sake but while yes she could have said this two years ago it’s clearly more true now.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  179. As someone who, like Patrick, severed life-long affiliation with the GOP thanks to Trump, it is really an eye-opening and liberating experience not to feel obligated to swallow every partisan (meaning: propaganda for one side which leaves out relevant, countervailing facts) statement and attack uncritically.

    You guys hate on Dave a lot but this rings very true to me.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  180. It’s pretty easy to understand why after posts like #190

    JD (b30059)

  181. I thought he said he had a severe life-long affliction.

    Pinandpuller (e476ee)

  182. I found footage of GGB but it was at The Laugh Factory

    Pinandpuller (e476ee)

  183. So now your place of employment is also domestic relations court? WTF, man? What went on between Rob Porter and his exes is between them and has nothing to do with the job Trump hired him for. Maybe he should call up their bosses and tell them how they overcooked the steaks and left their pantyhose hanging on the shower curtain rod?

    nk (dbc370)

  184. If neither hatch nor lee, saw fit to dismiss him, the Harvard and educated son of bush sr. public policy advisor, what else is one to conclude,

    narciso (d1f714)

  185. Donald Trump walks into the Smithsonian’s lending library and asks the library lady if they have a copy of the Masters and Johnson book about men with small penises. The librarian taps on her keyboard, scrolls down on the screen, and says, “I can’t tell if it’s in”. And Trump says, “Yeah, that’s the one”.

    nk (dbc370)

  186. Rupert pupkin will probably chasing another invisible jet

    https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/961776901907009536

    narciso (d1f714)

  187. yes, that snowflake attitude, doesn’t really fit her,

    narciso (d1f714)

  188. Is three men and three women must cross Latvia River in boat that hold only two people.

    Is make big problem because no woman want be outnumbered by men.

    Is man find solution.

    First trip is one man and one woman.

    In middle of river woman accuse man of sexual harassment.

    Also boat not good and spring leak.

    Very sad.

    nk (dbc370)

  189. if you’ve seen ‘kill the messenger’ Michael sheen, plays the jonathan winer character.

    narciso (d1f714)

  190. You guys hate on Dave a lot but this rings very true to me.
    Patterico (115b1f) — 2/8/2018 @ 10:24 pm

    It does, I left the GOP long before Patterico. The reason I so quickly hated on Dave however has nothing to do with his point. It’s because he spounts twisted lefty talking points that have little basis in reality. Everything is the worst possible interpretation against Republicans or conservatives (not much crossover between those two groups anymore, *sigh*) and he’s soooo smug about it.

    I don’t like those kind of people from any political group.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  191. everyone should stop being so smug it’s not helping

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  192. Back when he was president, Barack Obama told me that only two people treated any interaction with him as a zero-sum game. One was Vladimir Putin, the other congressional Republicans. Both behaved as if there was no such thing as a win-win situation: Any gain for Obama was a loss for them, and any gain for them must also entail a loss for Obama. The moment that the Russian president or congressional Republicans saw he wanted something, they went to work trying to keep him from getting it — even if it was something they might otherwise have approved of.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-09/has-anyone-seen-the-president

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  193. At the risk of sounding like a member of Westboro…did he kneel? The president tweeted, but if that sort of empathy results in more and more Dougie Jones, why bother?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  194. he spounts twisted lefty talking points that have little basis in reality.

    He just believes y’all salvageable so reality hits him hard.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  195. yes it was Bloomberg, liars pokers was good, but his subsequent work has been nearly procopian, and not in a good way,

    narciso (d1f714)

  196. Last night, the WaPo answered a question that should have been answered at yesterday’s presser. There are dozens of people working in the White House who, like Porter, have not yet received clearance. Starting with the son-in-law that has been remapping the world while under active counterintelligence investigation for shaping policy in a way that may stave off familial bankruptcy.

    Dozens of White House employees are awaiting permanent security clearances and have been working for months with temporary approvals to handle sensitive information while the FBI continues to probe their backgrounds, according to U.S. officials.

    People familiar with the security-clearance process said one of those White House officials with an interim approval is Jared Kushner — the president’s son-in-law and one of his most influential advisers.

    Then Politico provided the other, even more critical piece of this puzzle: FBI already told the White House that Porter and others would not get security clearance. And there are witnesses that Kelly knew about these multiple White House aides and thought they should be fired.

    https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/09/how-the-white-houses-tolerance-for-wife-beaters-exposed-it-was-harboring-counterintelligence-threats/

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  197. all these trashy fbi bimbos keep leaving

    but they all still get pensions

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  198. @212: Back when he was president, Barack Obama told me that only two people treated any interaction with him as a zero-sum game. One was Vladimir Putin, the other congressional Republicans.

    Confirmation that a win for Iran’s mullahs was a win for him.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  199. “only two people”
    “One was Vladimir Putin, the other congressional Republicans.”

    “Congressional Republicans” is one people?

    So which one is it that can only count up to two? Obama or the reporter?

    nk (dbc370)

  200. 189 — we now know that Steele lied even more to the FBI when he claimed that he had shared his findings with only his client and the FBI.

    In addition to the press, he met with a Winer, a State Dept. official, and showed him the dossier.

    Then Winer comes into possession of the memo from Cody Shearer, and rather than give it to the FBI, Winer gives it to Steele.

    The explanations for these events are simply incredulous.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  201. What the hell is wrong with the White House? What the hell is wrong with John Kelly? And last but certainly not least: Why the hell is Hope Hicks getting off easy?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-hell-is-hope-hicks-getting-off-easy

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  202. Ben burn,

    You know, I don’t think many people are going to respond to you going forward. Apparently, many have you on ignore, which is fine. But nobody should be giving any credence to a proven liar. I would suggest that even those people who can see your posts consider you in Coventry for a while. I doubt it will help you, but it will make things nicer here.

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  203. Sounds fine with me sasha.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  204. And guess who else felt that politics played a role? FBI agents. Remember that the deal was approved despite the fact that the major Russian players were under FBI investigation, and the fact that there existed (as the Hill put it in October) “substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering.” Campbell was furious about this, given what he had uncovered, and confronted his FBI handlers about it. Guess what they said? Forget it, Jake. It’s Swamptown:

    And who was the director of the FBI at the time?

    Tell me about his unimpeachable character and impeccable ethical standards. When these inside-the-beltway types start praising each other I know I’m looking at a five dollar h@@ker willing to turn tricks in a dumpster behind a Georgetown liquor store. I’d rather hang out with S.E. Asian sex worker, a higher class of person. I wouldn’t sleep with them. As I told a friend over an air hockey game at the O club at Atsugi, it just doesn’t pay to do something you can’t live with (a reading from the Book of Obvious but it caused him to snort so much beer out of his nose I felt obligated to buy him another). But I would sing karaoke with them when I was in Thailand for Cobra Gold and tip them big because time is money, and let them raid my mini-bar because I’m not drinking that birds’ nest soda or whatever it is but they seemed to like it.

    They were fun. I remember a girl I bar fined in Olangapo. She had a boyfriend on the USS Peleliu. She was worth the money as a dinner companion just to hear her try to pronounce “Peleliu.” She also seemed really confused why I wasn’t trying to #### her. Here’s where I get back to the point.

    As a Sailor you can’t really be too picky about who you’ll socialize with in a port like Pohang. Read “All The Gallant Men” by Don Stratton.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30037308-all-the-gallant-men

    He was badly burned while surviving the attack on the Arizona. He had nothing but praise for the girls of Hotel Street. Guess who they were? They dropped everything to care for the wounded, doing the worst possible jobs in the naval hospital, and Stratton (and I at this late stage in history) thought their contribution to the war effort wasn’t properly respected.

    In my day I only hung out with h@@kers in east an south east Asia. I knew what was going on. They weren’t there because they liked it. For the most part they were sold into the trade by their parents. Which is why I confused that girl in Olongapo. I’m just not taking a part in a slave trade. But I damn well will treat them decently, even lavishly by their standards.

    I understand why they are doing what they’re doing. And I can respect it. I don’t understand why Comey and Mueller do what they’re doing. I kinda sorta on a certain level, but it’s not good enough. And I can’t respect it.

    The bottom line is I’d let an open prostitute into my house before I’d let an FBI director in.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  205. In case I have to spell everything out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller

    Steve57 (0b1dac)


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