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1/30/2018

#ReleaseTheMemo Hyperbole Reaches Fever Pitch

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:30 am

The Trumpalos are beside themselves as #ReleaseTheMemo approaches:

TRUMPALO 1: The things described in the Devin Nunes #ReleaseTheMemo are 10,000 times worse than Stalin’s purge!!

TRUMPALO 2: Oh yeah? I say the things described in the Devin Nunes #ReleaseTheMemo are eleventy bajillion times worse than the Holocaust!!!1!

Yes, the hyperbole is freely flowing as the excitement builds towards the #Release of #the all-important #Memo, which is a doubtless partisan and selective distillation of what was presented to a FISA court in the Russia investigation. Here’s Wikileaks confidante Sean Hannity, telling us that the things described in #TheMemo are worse than Watergate:

Hey, stealing a Snickers bar is serious business, Sean. Don’t minimize it.

Not to be outdone, here’s Sebastian Gorka, telling us that the things described in #TheMemo are worse (by an order of magnitude, natch!) than the “long train of abuses and usurpations” that led the 13 colonies to revolt:

As the vituperative exaggerations fly, like some political game of the dozens, I offer this advice: for God’s sake, whatever you do: don’t ask for a redacted version of the underlying documentation.

One-sided partisan attacks that hide the source material are bad when they appear in the #FAKENEWSMEDIA, but they’re A-OK here.

Plus, #ReleaseTheDocumentation is just a terrible hashtag.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

260 Responses to “#ReleaseTheMemo Hyperbole Reaches Fever Pitch”

  1. party’s just about over for the corrupt suckboys and their sleazy mistresses at the FBI

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  2. You mean like the dossier that was shipped to isikoff, fandos,
    entous, corn, probably eichenwald but only buzzfeed and CNN pulled the trigger?

    narciso (d1f714)

  3. If there is one most afwul thing about our media, it is their habit of speculating the death out of upcoming events, then mostly ignoring the actuality.

    By the time this memo actually surfaces, so much will have been said, so may position hardened, such an incredible weight of speculation built up that the actual memo will be irrelevant to the discussion.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  4. The more awful thing is how they cover a story, ‘with a pillow, still it stops moving’@treacher. So despite carter page was nowhere near the rosneft deal, he is put forth as a likely beneficiary.

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. Patterico, it may well be partisan, and CERTAINLY it will be spun that way. But it also may be that the bald truth is so damning that no partisanship is necessary.

    Yes, the documentation (minus only identification of covert assets) needs to be published and any redaction needs to such that the narrative isn’t destroyed.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  6. John Doe investigations say hello.

    NJRob (b00189)

  7. Trumpalos? What do the NeverTrumpettes say?

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  8. The more awful thing is how they cover a story, ‘with a pillow, still it stops moving

    You can hide something by overcovering it, too, losing the lede in a cacophony of contradiction.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  9. The JFK assassination is a good example.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  10. don’t ask for a redacted version of the underlying documentation

    nevertrump didn’t need a single shred of evidence to screech PEDOPHILE at Roy Moore all day long and well into the night

    ask perverted Mitt “no proof no problem” Romney how that works

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. Schifferico Schifftifications?

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  12. Some scary schiff…

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  13. Yes, that’s a risk but the way the rizzotto press, looks away a
    S if the memo were medusa:

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/01/hasnt-nyt-effectively-declassified.html

    Assuage burned spies and operations and bozos Carlos slim and the p guardian were fine with it, now they turn toward one political figure and her enablers and its def con 0

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. Let’s see what it says and see how the media plays it. Oh… that’s right, they’re already discounting it.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  15. Partisan hyperbole – lmmfao on the big island with my toes in the sand after my morning snorkel.

    mg (2c9db1)

  16. “Like children, they need to be reminded of the order of things. Release the Memo!”

    Trump supporters are always looking for totems and fetishes (no, not that kind, the other kind) to solve all their problems. Trump is their chief one; The Memo is the new one.

    nk (dbc370)

  17. i hope the source material’s kept in a super-safe place

    the scummy Chris Wray FBI’s already destroyed god knows how much evidence

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  18. We keep hearing he is the head vampire, but I see very few
    drained corpses, I demand drained corpses (sarc)

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Dr. Nunes’s Magic Bullet?

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Can you squeeze the image of the docs between the flags above Ryan and Pence and if so, who’s bringing the power point projector, who will aim it, and who will click between pages.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  21. Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!

    One Memo to rule them all,
    One Memo to find them,
    One Memo to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them.
    In the land of Covfefe,
    Where the shadows lie.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. My view of the Kennedy assassination is largely shaped by Gus
    russo and Brian latells view, the same clue that would prove
    mostly clueless in Vietnam, was equally adrift much closer to home,

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. Seeing the dossier has become like the cobalt bomb worshiped by
    Mutant priest schiff, there’s irony there, crunchy irony.

    narciso (d1f714)

  24. Altered 302 memos. Hmm.

    NJRob (b00189)

  25. wrt Gorka’s comment.
    Put the Waco massacre together with Civil Asset Forfeiture, Kelo, and invisible administrative law and then look at the bill of particulars in the Declaration.

    Richard Aubrey (10ef71)

  26. jilly pilly must be so proud to be married to a disgraced fbi p.o.s. what just got fired like a failed loser on the apprentice only days before his announced retirement

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  27. Sources and methods..It would be nice to release the underlying intel, but it may
    compromise ongoing operations. However, more likely than not most of the Russian
    spooks, diplomats, etc that were surveilled or recorded knew they were being watched.
    The more accurate equivalent is CONINTELPRO. Funny how the left was OUTRAGED over that
    and perfectly hunky dory with spying on US persons talking to Russian spooks/diplos as
    part of their jobs/campaigns. Ironic…

    CygnusAnalogMan (9c66ec)

  28. Put the Waco massacre together with Civil Asset Forfeiture, Kelo, and invisible administrative law and then look at the bill of particulars in the Declaration.

    Sessions revived asset forfeiture on steroids, whereby the DOJ partners with local police departments to use federal law when their states’ laws forbid it; and Trump infamously used Kelo in an attempt to take a widow’s home.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. Who said they were surveilling Russian diplomats back in 2015,
    maybe, oh I left ioffe off the dossier koolaid list. We wouldn’t know of page

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. What the hell’s gotten into you, Patterico? This isn’t even a coherent rant.

    Maybe a break is in order. I’ starting to think Trump broke, or at least bent, part of your mind.

    JRH, Esq. (baf681)

  31. See the way they used to do it, the soviet’s would send a defector or two, the first was nosenko, the company bigwigs loved him because he assured then the soviet’s were not doing anything rash, but a more skeptical cohort headed by angleton had some doubts. Golitsyn provide a number of lards in France as well as the UK.

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. By the time this memo actually surfaces, so much will have been said, so may position hardened, such an incredible weight of speculation built up that the actual memo will be irrelevant to the discussion.

    I think you’re getting the hang of rope a dope but how has that affected your fact filter? It needs changing more often.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  33. Leon uris fictionalized elements of the Golitsyn and penkovsky affairs inntopaz which hitchcock turned into a film. With John forsyth playing an aide to angleton.

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. This isn’t even a coherent rant.

    He’s conflicted. Like I would be if my MIL went off a cliff in my Durango S/RT.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  35. Littell took a similar tack with Michael Eaton as angleton, was ambivalent on the great mole wars. Splitting the baby, so angleton was ultimately right about Sasha the American philby was too blind to know who it was.

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. “Like children, they need to be reminded of the order of things. Release the Memo!”

    Trump supporters are always looking for totems and fetishes (no, not that kind, the other kind) to solve all their problems. Trump is their chief one; The Memo is the new one.

    nk (dbc370) — 1/30/2018 @ 9:58 am

    Hang the Schiff memo on a pole above DC. Anyone who looks upon it won’t die from the bite of the Nunes’ Memo Serpent.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  37. 24 narciso..keep repeating it like it’s significant in the Release of the Nerf Kraken

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  38. Schiff is just like Albert Brooks in Drive.

    1. Don’t trust him

    2. Don’t shake hands with him

    3. Don’t turn your back on him

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  39. Totems and fetishes

    I didn’t see that gem of Cult magnitude.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  40. He’s conflicted. Like I would be if my MIL went off a cliff in my Durango S/RT.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/30/2018 @ 11:17 am

    Your “no brakes” story would hold more water if your MIL was on The Trump Train.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  41. Your “no brakes” story would hold more water if your MIL was on The Trump Train.

    Mebbe if I were a one-issue SIL.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  42. Well its important to know the veracity of both parties, dont
    you agree, Jason Matthews in his next tale the Kremlin candidate, surprising bit who you think tackles that issue.

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. I forget who was the protocols scribe it was in the plague cemetery by uberto eco:
    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/253765/glenn-simpson-press-conspiracy-theory

    narciso (d1f714)

  44. I see there’s gonna be some squirrel fur flying when our host responds to comments

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  45. Hannity Sounds Off on Nunes FISA Memo: ‘Makes Watergate Like Stealing a Snickers Bar’

    Hannity does bring snickers to mind. Boyo Sean was all of 12 years old during Watergate but likely swiped a few candy bar himself to munch watching Josie and the Pussycats.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  46. Supposedly someone printed the text from an entire Victor Hugo book on a T shirt.

    Just need “Ask Me About My T Shirt” in normal sized print.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  47. 45

    Relying on GUS! for twisty flatulations is a gas!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  48. My introduction to angleton was through Aaron lathams roman a clef,
    Which I’ve referred many a time, even though he was the novice lefty on the post, and later at the village voice, o’hara comes off if not heroically, but at least smarter than his adversary:

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/01/metaphorical-thinking-about-secret.html

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. According to the text of the Act that President Trump signed, by February 2018 the U.S. authorities must accomplish the following:

    — Identify the circle of senior officials involved in foreign policy and oligarchs with close ties to the Russian authorities;

    — Determine their relationship to Vladimir Putin and members of the Russian ruling elite;

    — Determine whether those individuals are involved in corrupt actions;

    — Estimate the amount of wealth and the sources of income of those individuals and their family members – spouses, children, parents, and brothers and sisters, including their assets, investments, and any other business interests and significant share holdings they have in any companies anywhere;

    — Determine whether they have business relations and assets outside of Russia;

    — Assess the potential impact imposing sanctions against these “oligarchs,” state-owned and partially state-owned companies would have on those entities themselves, and on the economies of Russia, the U.S., and U.S. allies.

    — Determine the potential impact of imposing secondary sanctions against Russian oligarchs. (Secondary sanctions are especially odious because they carry force beyond U.S. territory. Anyone winding up on that “blacklist” would find themselves unable to obtain financing not only from U.S. banks, but also from European financial institutions.)

    https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/the-oligarchs-are-next-russian-businessmen-prepare-for-us-sanctions-59391

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  50. HO-O-O-LEEE SH’T!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  51. Nunes and Rohrabacher…your ship is leaving port..all wharf rats disembark!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  52. When fever pitched Trumpalo hyperbole is ever used as a basis for a FISA warrant, I would get very, very concerned. Until then we can rest easy, yuk it up and mock Trumpalos, because fever pitched partisan hyperbole is never used that way.

    random viking (8715cf)

  53. Just Like a Woman Lawyer

    Nobody hears any truth
    In the pool floats teh Baby Ruth
    Ev’rybody knows
    That lawyers’ bullschiff flows
    But somehow lately the pace it only grows
    They’re swine, and we throw the pearls

    They lie, just like a lawyer, yes they do
    They distract, just like a lawyer, yes they do
    On the take, just like a lawyer
    Don’t look so great, like a worn-out shoe

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  54. Not to be outdone, here’s Sebastian Gorka…

    Gorka was a nappy-clad, British-born, 4 year old during Watergate whose window on the world was BBC 1’s Jackanory.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. When does government temp funding end again?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  56. Look at Haiku!

    The pen is mightier than the kernels wooden sword.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  57. Too much hype… too much hype… and did I say, too much hype?

    There were so many *guarantees* that Hillary! was going to prison over Benghazi.

    As The Who once said, Let’s not get fooled again.

    B.A. DuBois (80f588)

  58. Been been burned
    But not like this before
    Can’t stay ‘round
    He’ll mince right out the door

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  59. It’s all coming to a carbuncle head . Let the landing begin!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  60. Let the lancing begin..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  61. Getting Trump out of office by any means necessary isn’t a single issue?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  62. We’ve seen this movie before. When the bad guys try to escape the good guys dashing down a blind alley, they always tip over a few garbage cans before they surrender to fate or do the big shoot out.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. If you really want to be a literalist you should practice more Pin.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  64. DC

    Is Moscow Times not on the Trumplandia reading list? I’m surprised the haven’t cricket-chirped once, even.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  65. Mock the memo and its impending release all you like. I agree the chattering class is performing like the blowhards they typically are. The allegation of political espionage is just as serious as the allegation of candidate and campaign involvement with agents of a hostile power. Keeping the information in the SCIF is fueling a campaign of leaks and counter-leaks that harms the nation as much as it harms the government institutions and affected players. It’s time for the facts to be known – whatever they are and wherever they lead. I don’t expect the memo’s release to stop the debate over the meaning of the facts but it is nevertheless past time for the facts to be known.

    crazy (d99a88)

  66. FBI agents aren’t FBI agents

    That alter when McCabe calls

    Or bends with the traitor to treason

    Oh no; It is a Bureau of Prison’s Number

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  67. 9.The JFK assassination is a good example.

    Science put that to bed long ago. But then, if you’re a party that denies, your universe remains suspect. Had they kept faith with evolution– and scraped more samples from Reagan– Grow-A-Gipper kits could be on the shelves by Christmas: the Chinese say they’ve cloned monkeys– primates.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. Keeping the information in the SCIF is fueling a campaign of leaks and counter-leaks that harms the nation as much as it harms the government institutions and affected players.

    Add my near-extinct agreement to your own.

    Let the chips and players rise or fall based upon a complete and unabridged revelation. Stop the parsing and public manipulations. Give us the straight Dope.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  69. @67. Pravadally not.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. Is it just me or does Hannity’s head get swoller every time I see it? He looks like a tick about to pop.

    Jerryskids (3308c1)

  71. “— Determine the potential impact of imposing secondary sanctions against Russian oligarchs. (Secondary sanctions are especially odious because they carry force beyond U.S. territory. Anyone winding up on that “blacklist” would find themselves unable to obtain financing not only from U.S. banks, but also from European financial institutions.)”

    After initially slipping following the publication of the list of names, Russian equities bounced back in early European trading as traders realized the list was less targeted than some had expected, or as some called it “much ado about nothing” and just a rehash of the Forbes richest Russians. By midday the Moex index of leading Russian shares was up 0.3%. The ruble climbed 0.1% to 56.25 to the dollar, bolstered by firming crude prices.

    The list was compiled based on “objective criteria drawn from publicly available sources,” Treasury said, including those with net worth of $1 billion or more for the oligarchs and high official position for the senior political figures.
    “They just included everybody, all the big businessmen, all the major bureaucrats,” said Vladimir Tikhomirov, chief economist at BCS Financial Group, a Moscow brokerage, told Bloomberg

    Luckily,

    Meanwhile, Reuters reported that President Vladimir Putin said the list complicates US-Russia relations, calling it “an unfriendly act.” However, he said Russia would refrain from retaliating.

    because…

    The arctic air that has frozen the northeastern U.S. over the first weeks of 2018 has prompted New Englanders to crank up the heat and New England’s utility companies to scramble for fuel.

    And the Ruskkies are riding to the rescue:

    Sanctions anyone? US receives Russian LNG shipment, 2nd tanker reported on its way

    TheBas (3c03db)

  72. You mean the son of a survivor the betrayal of Budapest spring, interestingly ali fayyed operated from eastern European capitals,
    As well as Kiev,

    narciso (d1f714)

  73. It’s his neck being swallowed by his shoulders..Buttered Porterhouse syndrome.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  74. Keeping ’em “honest”…

    When you see any DACA dweebs showcased tonight on the SOTU Show, keep in mind:

    Two DACA recipients arrested on suspicion of human smuggling
    – San Diego Union-Tribune

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-daca...

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  75. Well that’s how the oligarch cookie crumbles TheBas. Have some integrity!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  76. Trump could have foreseen the blizzards and the GAZPROM problem. Maybe we shouldn’t be exporting gas.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  77. But…FREEEEE MARKETS and SUPPLY-SIDE really can conflict with social relations.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  78. Free markets?

    Though the resources are close at hand, a combination of laws and regulations has made New England dependent upon natural gas, yet unable to access all that it needs. While the presence of natural gas in New England’s electricity fuel mix has grown from 18 percent in 2000 to 45 percent in 2017 to an anticipated 56 percent in 2025, New England’s ability to receive natural gas has not kept pace.

    Pipeline paucity

    On Jan. 23, ISO New England CEO Gordon van Welie testified before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that, “when it gets cold the region does not have sufficient gas infrastructure to meet demand for both home heating and power generation.” […]

    The Jones Act

    With state governments blocking new pipeline construction to bring in affordable shale gas, New England buys liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported by sea.

    Since the United States is now an LNG exporter, New England would seem to have a reliable option. But domestic shipping of LNG is made impossible by the obtuse Merchant Marine Act of 1920 — commonly called the Jones Act. The Jones Act mandates that only American-built, -owned, -crewed and -flagged vessels can participate in maritime shipping between domestic ports.

    TheBas (3c03db)

  79. Someday the X axis MIL driving off a cliff fantasy and the y axis Trump “Creampie” fantasy are going to meet up and those coordinates, The 8th Congressional District, will be all over the national news.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  80. narciso @22. That was what LBJ was led to believe – that Castro did it, but he didn’t, although maybe Oswald thought the KGB (not specifically Castro) wanted him to do it.

    The only people who could have arranged a conspiracy were the people who chose the parade route.

    And the most crucial person there was Governor Connally (see the footnote on page 25 of William Manchester’s The Death of a President.

    Which doesn’t rule out a conpiracy but does rule out one that Governor Connally knew he was participating in – because he wouldn’t get in the same car with Kennedy in that case.)

    I don’t think LBJ was part of any such thing either. Eugene Locke, not so much. And Oswald would have to have been a fallback plan, and not the original idea.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  81. The dossier is only a collection of Christopher Steele’s greatest hits. It’s not his contemporary reports.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  82. Steele couldnt set foot in Russia, he was burned by a British version of age, in 99, somewhat akin to blame with aldrich games.

    narciso (d1f714)

  83. When you see any DACA dweebs showcased tonight on the SOTU Show, keep in mind:

    Two DACA recipients arrested on suspicion of human smuggling – San Diego Union-Tribune

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-daca

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/30/2018 @ 12:25 pm

    DACA Kids so dumb-they thought they were on Taxicab Confessions.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  84. Too many of you schiff heads on the mainland. Stay away from the big island. Spectacular canoeing with the manna rays.

    mg (2c9db1)

  85. “But then, if you’re a party that denies, your universe remains suspect.“

    Yeah, like a party what denied science and runs with gender fluidity nonsense… just one example.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  86. Sean Hannity and \
    ……………….\
    ………………..\
    …………………\
    …………………|
    ………………….|
    ………………….. Sebastian Gorka?

    Vast right wing conspiracy isn’t what it use to be, huh Clintterico?

    You have a theme in mind. You put a shoulder to the idea. Type half of it up, then while fishing around for examples to support your thesis discover there really is a Stalinesk purge going down across the country. Enforced by secret police in America.

    Doh!
    The part I don’t get is there’s a delete key right there man.

    I guess it’s like how football players wear the pink headband, or else face santions? Broken leg on the field, maybe?
    Put your ecology sticker in the window or else.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  87. That’s what happens when you prioritize buying from foreign sources and don’t build US pipelines to deliver fuel, TheBas. Under Rico Perry, Trump’s Energy Department is looking at ways to deal with thus, but extending federal power into State decisions has risks. Maybe the best solution is for the Northeast to buy where it wants and pay the hefty price tag that goes with that devision.

    DRJ (15874d)

  88. Why do you troll here, papertiger?

    DRJ (15874d)

  89. So this will be the lead up to Al Capone’s vault and chasing the white Bronco.
    Almost like entitled fraternities staging a bit of drama.

    I prefer Loony Tunes.

    Cartoon characters all lawyered up.

    neal (7b607d)

  90. 41. Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/30/2018 @ 11:24 am

    Schiff is just like Albert Brooks in Drive.

    1. Don’t trust him

    2. Don’t shake hands with him

    3. Don’t turn your back on him

    Oh, Adam Schiff.

    He’s the person who said Hillary was right to lie about Benghazi. To be specific, he said that had Hillary Clinton told the truth about Benghazi that week, she would have been justly criticized:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-october-25-trump-christie-nunes-schiff/

    And we did an investigation, that Devin was a part of that, in the intelligence committee, that looked at, frankly, each of these conflicting streams of intelligence as they came in. The early claims by Ansar al-Sharia responsibility that were very quickly followed with human intelligence, signals intelligence, open source reporting, that there was a protest. It wasn’t until about eight to ten days after the events where we actually got the tapes from the compound that we could see quite demonstrably on those tapes that there had been no protests. But it was the — the considered judgment, the assessment of the intelligence experts for that week until we got those tapes, that there had been a protest. And that turned out to be wrong.

    But to criticize Secretary Clinton for relying on the best of intelligence that we had at the time seemed to be wholly inappropriate. Had she had spoken, frankly, in contradiction of what our intelligence agencies were telling her, that might be something to criticize. But the fact that, as she related, and as Ambassador Rice and others related, the information at the time, it was the best information we had. And the fact that that was wrong initially doesn’t change the fact that they were reflecting the best that we knew at the time.

    Who do you believe? The intelligence agencies or what you know from your own people? Hillary knew taht theer had been no demonstration. What the CIA was saying was, of course, not the BEST INFORMATION but the MOST HIGHLY RATED information – which is not the same thing.

    What Adam Schiff was talking about is mostly SOOPER SEKRIT intelligence. It was disinformation by the perpetrators of the attack in Benghazi (That very night, according to a New York Times reporter who was there, the terrorists at the scene were blaming the video, which nobody in Benghazi had even heard of.)

    Something was, and probably still is, hugely wrong at the CIA. And some other places too.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  91. The 8th Congressional District, will be all over the national news.

    Not gonna happen. I’ve reviewed the impact on my wife.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  92. Glenn Greenwald about Russia and Trump:

    And even if claims about Russian meddling are corroborated by Robert Mueller’s investigation, Greenwald’s not sure it adds up to much — some hacked emails changing hands, none all that damaging in their content, maybe some malevolent Twitter bots….When it comes to what the investigation was designed to focus on, Greenwald says he’s still waiting for hard evidence that the Trump campaign aided Russian operatives in hacking the Clinton-campaign emails — or struck some other corrupt bargain. Absent that, he’s not impressed. “Some Russians wanted to help Trump win the election, and certain people connected to the Trump campaign were receptive to receiving that help. Who the f&%( cares about that?”

    Of course, it wasn’t Z “some Russians” who wanted to help Trump win the election, but probably Vladimir Putin but taht doesn’t create a corrupt bargain.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  93. The big quesiton is: If Putin wanted Truymp to win why did he feed all this anti-Trump disinformation to the Democrats:

    The answer probably is, he had no idea that the people who were being leaked to were working for the Democratrs.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  94. The great Canadian menace, the agia line would have brought fuel south, but Kim Alton and Larry persilly put a stop to that. Glenn Simpson is the great vault keeper.

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. I’ve known people who deposited money markets just to say they’re saving, while allowing credit card balances at much higher percentage.
    Between 2016 and 2020, the United States is expected to account for about half of the 20 billion cubic feet per day of new LNG export capacity worldwide. (Worldwide LNG demand is now around 37 billion cubic feet per day.) The Energy Information Administration expects that U.S. LNG exports will exceed 3 billion cubic feet per day in 2018 and over 12 billion cubic feet per day by 2035. (See graph below.) LNG exports are expected to support up to 452,000 new jobs and add $73 billion to the U.S. economy by 2040.[iii]

    https://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/u-s-become-major-lng-exporter/

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  96. Maybe the best solution is for the Northeast to buy where it wants and pay the hefty price tag that goes with that devision.

    It’s called chopping wood. Good for your health supposedly.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  97. Kids can be cruel; our nickname for JFK in college was “Ol’Scatterbrains.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  98. I need a third example to flesh out a thesis.

    Baseball greats kept out of Cooperstown.

    1. Barry Bonds

    2. Pete Rose

    3. … Lance Armstrong?

    That’s not quite right is it.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  99. So lee Smith, among others has tried to Suss this put, who did steele meet where when and how, was akmetshin the middle man, which makes the story more interesting.

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. @96. ‘Get Smart’ Sammy: the objective was to sow chaos– or if you prefer, Kaos. Would you believe Putin is the Siegfried of our times?!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  101. @101

    I’ll give you two: Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  102. @102 – narciso

    Lee Smith did a lot of the heavy lifting early on. His first piece on FusionGPS’ journalism-for-hire was an eye-opener that kicked off the unraveling of the Russian collusion propaganda.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  103. DRJ, we are a nation of laws, not men (women, other) right?

    Do you believe Hillary Clinton belongs in jail?

    Would you be willing to risk your career to put her there?

    If the answers are a} yes, and b} no, then you should be more careful about who you call a lickspittle.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  104. @97.The great Canadian menace…

    “… and that b-tch Anne Murray, too!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXsWQAI2j4

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  105. Whooppee!!! We get more jobs and cash ( but what we need is more gas)

    Just buy more from Gazprom? Ask the Ukraine…lol.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  106. @101. I’ll give you one: Roger Maris.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  107. Combine this with the Bourse and BRICS and you can kiss your financial breakdown on the arse for all the good it will do you.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  108. He was the one behind the strong horse hypothesis, and how democrats deluded that prospect, at least a year after the big unveiling those questions.

    narciso (d1f714)

  109. Enough with the “lickspittle”… that is Beldar’s new go-to insult and it gets redundant seeing it used by less than landed gentry…

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  110. The guy doesn’t even understand reference humor from references he provided.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  111. Sammy Sosa isn’t in the Hall?

    Wow.

    That’s racist.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  112. I thought Maris was the wife you never saw on Frazier. Or was she the one promised seven consulships?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  113. Dopers get an asterisk by their shameful names. Plagiarists, fakirs and and thieves.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  114. But I do understand the subject dodge.

    You have everything, and nothing to lose. Trump was your suicide bargain.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  115. “The 8th Congressional District, will be all over the national news.

    Not gonna happen. I’ve reviewed the impact on my wife.”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/30/2018 @ 1:13 pm

    What does he say?

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  116. I need a third example to flesh out a thesis.

    “Shoeless” Joe Jackson?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  117. @112. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    Spittle-spattle.

    “The Coneheads started out as the Pinhead Lawyers of France.” – Dan Aykroyd, ‘Live From NY; An Uncensored History of SNL’ 2002

    Bonsoir, Beldar.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  118. Haiku is sexually obsessed like Jihadis who worship their mother but treat their spouse like a hooker because she is sick enough to have sex with a jagov like him.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  119. 100… not funny, ASPCA.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  120. Disinformation, Democrat style:

    A safer assumption is that they cleared the information with the FSB. If so, and I see no other alternative, it is curated information. Why would Russia be supplying curated information to the Clinton campaign? The simple answer is they expected Clinton to win and this would give them compromising Leverage over the new president. After all, it is also against American law to pay foreign officials to act corruptly. So if she won Hillary could be accused of the same thing that Trump is now accused of. It also adds to the bad image of American elections. So I believe the Russians were feeding both sides with slime, or trying to.

    Hard to argue with that. I don’t expect the Nunes memo to give us motive but I expect the facts should help us determine who was playing who.

    crazy (d99a88)

  121. Rest easy, beenburned, your secret’s safe with us…

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  122. not funny, ASPCA.

    Considering your fascination with sex and violence DC would be hi-fived..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  123. Although Shoeless Joe may eventually get in. It appears he was probably innocent.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  124. @123. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    It was to the Texans on campus- particularly the co-eds.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  125. Kernel

    Thankfully you are an open book. No mystery or complexity…simpletons rule the innertoobs.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  126. Its embarassing pin, its nit ready for primetime, more like Gilbert gottfrieds sign off on night flight.

    narciso (d1f714)

  127. Not until Pete Goddamned Rose does before him but at least he voodoo’d Bart Giamatti (much as Steinle might have thunderstruck Ed Lee) soon after.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  128. The bug-eye will inflict upon the brown-guy

    As much evil as does the August Body good

    Dead in the water the sails hang flaccid

    When seized by the GEOTUS, will squeal like a piggy

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  129. Come to think of it, my glass half-time philosophy has the same compliment as to simplicity for Trump.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  130. Half full

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  131. August Body … hear tell she goes by ‘Stormy Daniels’ these days.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  132. @131. Don’t bet on it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  133. Because of the Global Warming on the Sea of Madness

    The chicken is half-f*****

    The constituents will come to cut them

    When the biscuit sops Schiff and McCay

    Century II Quatrain 3

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  134. and you have to wonder about someone what wants to be famous for being diddled by charles in charge

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  135. 6. ‘Get Smart’ Sammy: the objective was to sow chaos– or if you prefer, Kaos. Would you believe Putin is the Siegfried of our times?!

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/30/2018 @ 1:36 pm

    Did his botoxed face get eaten off by a tiger?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  136. @138. Trumpeter Baio had a stormy relationship, too, eh, Mr. Feet! Will have to watch her jiggle out of that one the Kimmelscope tonight.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  137. 137… looks like ConDave is slipping… he only had one job to do, half measures are never an answer!

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  138. @139. Nyet. Missed it byyyy that much.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  139. “The 8th Congressional District, will be all over the national news.

    Not gonna happen. I’ve reviewed the impact on my wife.”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/30/2018 @ 1:13 pm

    What does he say?

    Colonel Haiku (0db537) — 1/30/2018 @ 1:54 pm

    Airbag deployment.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  140. 137… looks like ConDave is slipping… he only had one job to do, half measures are never an answer!

    Colonel Haiku (0db537) — 1/30/2018 @ 2:21 pm

    He thought Bob Vila told him to measure once, f*** twice.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  141. 116.I thought Maris was the wife you never saw on Frazier.

    Roger, that.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  142. If I didn’t have any shoes I’d beat my kids too.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  143. How many disrespectful outbursts, heckles, screams of anguish and pop-up hidden signs do you think will appear at the SOTU? I picked three with my buddy Roy at five and Cory at one. I told Cory the left is way too crazy for only one. Remember to leftists the is the State of Trump Address the Union and the nation have nothing to do with it.
    Do you think these DREAMER’s will be there?
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Fz_hyOpLLl8/Wm-_B8bMZnI/AAAAAAABV1k/d4HHK0jG5ycp2AtwV7GA4Pxz3wDgXFzcgCLcBGAs/s640/1%2B1_190m_p39vepNIA61wl9kyqo1_500.jpg

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  144. Those are probably the pipeline blockers, the chicks have cheekbones Liz Warren would flip a triple-deckah for.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  145. Pin: I know the sexual proclivities of remote internet conversations could infect your paper-thin facade of masculinity, stretched when confronted with self-secure
    Males who hate having to reassure you of your homophobia, but could you and fellow homophobe kindly go grope an unsuspecting transvestite? It wouldn’t exactly be prophetic…just experiential.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  146. Hahahaha Hoagie, dude, are you sure those are “DREAMERs”? I would wager dollars to donuts that those are three Native Americans. Unknown whether they go around complaining about “the white-ing of America,” but I wouldn’t be surprised given their sentiments for Mt. Rushmore (which is in the Black Hills, which are the traditional homeland of the Cheyenne, and then the Lakota).

    Too many layers of irony. Man. Brilliant.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  147. Hey Rev Hoagie, what’s the species of fish they employ at certain salons to exfoliate? Do you think someone’s been trying to torture Sammy Sosa for intel?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  148. That’s, like, exploding-cigar levels of backfiring bigotry.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  149. Sammy must have had a close call in LA with a Greenlight.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  150. See? There was this Rod Steiger movie (1967) called the Sergeant

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  151. I don’t have to ask you about your homophilia-it’s all over your face.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  152. No Time for Sergeants

    You got The Biloxi Blues

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  153. DC

    Being a movie buff I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeant_(1968_film)

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  154. You’d be surprised at how angry a homo in denial can be…worse than a woman scorned

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  155. You got lost looking for the head 18 nights in a row.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  156. Do you like movies with gladiators?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  157. @ Kevin M: You mean maybe Joe did say it ain’t so?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  158. I mean real Hemen who are sissies..they get married and even have offspring to hide their sins.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  159. There could even be one or two amongst us.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  160. The “say it ain’t so, Joe” quote appears, based on casual Googling, to have been an early example of “fake news.”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  161. I’m glad I’m not a closeted Country music fan a four hour car ride from Mandalay Bay (Mandalay lol).

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  162. Did you cry at the end of Old Yeller’ because it wasn’t a ride at Disneyland?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  163. @157. Reflections in a Golden Eye (1967) has a better look, particularly watching Liz swing on a hammock– and walk upstairs a la Melania Trump boarding AF1.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  164. I heard on the movie they used a real beaver

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  165. But Melanoma came real close..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  166. those words he is using:

    https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/958419322006917121

    then again it could be his invisible friend t bone,

    narciso (d1f714)

  167. As Trey Howdy said If you ain’t thinking about beaver 24/7..you ain’t concentrating

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  168. Hannity Sounds Off on Nunes FISA Memo: ‘Makes Watergate Like Stealing a Snickers Bar’

    Pugg Shillelagh is a hard-shelled snack w/a nutty nougat center.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  169. POUTRAGING PROGRESSIVES

    Oh Cory, Cory, Cory.

    Plumb a little deeper laddie.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  170. I love nutz and chews but dark chocolate.

    Healthier…

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  171. I find the whole thing boring. But I am generally a believer in Brandeis’ famous quote that Sunlight Is The Best Disinfectant.

    Let me ask a naive question: what would be the harm if ALL the underlying documents were released to the public in undedacted form? Then we could all judge for ourselves what level of abuse this was, if at all.

    Bored Lawyer (998177)

  172. But I am generally a believer in Brandeis’ famous quote that Sunlight Is The Best Disinfectant.

    It can also give a nasty burn– and cause a cancer to grow.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  173. I’ve only read the third one,

    https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/e-v-seymour/

    but I found it quite informative, she uses some interesting sources which capture the life in Russia as well as Chechnya,

    narciso (d1f714)

  174. “I heard on the movie they used a real beaver”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/30/2018 @ 3:05 pm

    Just think… if they’d used John Waters’ scratch n’ sniff technology, you could’ve actually had the closest to the real experience you will ever know, beenburned.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  175. I heard nuts obstructed your airway, Ben, but not enough to give them up.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  176. “I love nutz and chews but dark chocolate.

    Healthier…”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/30/2018 @ 3:13 pm

    By Sir Burnedalot

    He likes dark nuts and he cannot lie
    When teh brothers all walk on by
    And when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
    He don’t even wanna steal a taste
    He get sprung, wanna take it rough
    Play it right he gonna get it stuffed
    Phat Pharm them sweaty men’s be wearing
    Been’s hooked and he can’t stop staring

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  177. You need to be more careful what you take away at MSP, BB. That half-time you talked about was more of a shuffle beat to the stall next door.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  178. Don’t burn all your weenies haiku.

    None to spare

    Pin

    Moar clarity, less clever verbosity.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  179. Just say no.
    Don’t taste the rainbow. [YouTube]
    Ben is giving bad advice.

    Probably goes without saying.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  180. Thanks for that hanging curve in teh wheelhouse, beenburned.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  181. I never much cared for all this #stuff.

    AZ Bob (f60c80)

  182. Is it racist that I treat Barry Bonds as an honorary white person, in no need of a race card defense?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  183. 187… I see the disdai… er, concern, on that lady’s face, AZBob.

    Colonel Haiku (0db537)

  184. Gee, I’m sorry I made a mistake and believed something I read on the net. LOL, I assume you are perfect? But since we all know you’re a leftist you obviously believe a lot more things that aren’t true than I. And mine was a mistake, your stupidity is deliberate. MAGA Hahaha.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  185. I can’t take credit for tea baggers pin.

    Santini is entitled..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  186. Hoagie take five.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  187. So the rear admiral enjoys being teabagged. Just like Obama.

    mg (2c9db1)

  188. 189, no go right ahead. Barry Bonds chose ASU for much the same big reason Reggie Jackson did i.e. let me get my white wimminz.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  189. Nicole eggert, bay watch babe, essentially the Alexandra daddario part, Shirley they cant be serious.

    narciso (d1f714)

  190. Bored Lawyer @175. The reason to keep the underlying information to those with a need to know would be protect sources, methods and ongoing counter-intelligence activities. DOJ has been rightfully protective of FISA activities historically. You don’t arrest or expel every spy you know about, for example. The Nunes memo should tell US whether DOJ was engaged in a good faith attempt to catch real agents of a foreign power based on reasonable suspicion or something else entirely. There’s really not much of an in-between no matter how hard some partisans try to convince us of that. The other point to consider is that when this is over the nation needs a functioning intel/counter-intel system run by leaders we can have confidence in not one that we blew up in order to fight over election results.

    crazy (d99a88)

  191. I prefer the cut-to-the-chase version of Alexandra Daddario, Leah Gotti.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  192. That and the Polish doctor illustrate the importance of appearing to maintain a proper OTM/OTLA ratio.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  193. Has anyone ever went to a site that the drunken rear admiral has posted?

    mg (2c9db1)

  194. Kurtz isn’t a cartoonish press-hating blowhard like his Fox News colleagues Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. He doesn’t target media norms and standards in bad-faith strikes on specific reporters or commentators, a la Mike Cernovich. Kurtz’s brand is much more subtle—and maybe just as effective in delegitimizing journalists breaking news about Trump.

    He’s an aging former newspaperman who uses the style and language of an aging former newspaperman: Kurtz worked at The Washington Post for 29 years, much of it as a solid media reporter, and hosted the CNN program Reliable Sources for more than a decade.

    But Media Madness reveals the extent to which he’s since transformed into a font of Fox News hackery. Kurtz fashions himself as a straight-shooting political outsider from the “non-trendy part of southern Brooklyn,” even though he went to Columbia and has worked in Washington for decades. He demands that Trump and his aides—whose incompetence and lies are off the charts in historic proportions—be covered with studious neutrality.

    https://splinternews.com/howard-kurtzs-new-trump-book-is-part-of-a-long-right-wi-1822524377

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  195. Has anyone ever went to a site that the drunken rear admiral has posted?

    You kidding me? I’ve been to sh’tholes with commenter name’s like threadkiller and captain hate. They love me.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  196. He carped all over one particular site, they had to call in a digital alpha strike.
    How quickly they forget the shiv she gave Judy Miller when she was under pat Fitzgerald

    narciso (d1f714)

  197. And captain is a fan of fine ales, European literature and exotic jazz, tk is a more mechanically minded fellow, oddly the admiral doesn’t venture into those discussions.

    narciso (d1f714)

  198. digital alpha strike

    Trumpen for burning books.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  199. Getting back to deighton about half way through the first Bernard Samson series he is,searching for a a stasi mole, in the stacks of the secret services great archives.

    narciso (d1f714)

  200. Gee, I’m sorry I made a mistake and believed something I read on the net.

    – Rev. Hoagie

    The problem is not that you made a mistake. The problem is that you gullibly jumped to bigoted conclusions, when the actual facts of the situation likely undermine your oft-repeated nativist talking points.

    Leviticus (924d70)

  201. Lol, narciso.

    mg (2c9db1)

  202. Says God almighty Leviticus.

    mg (2c9db1)

  203. If Trump wanted to put the Dems and media on full-tilt, he should open the SOTU speech with something not in his distributed text:

    Mr. Speaker, Madam Minority Leader, Majority and Minority Leaders of the Senate, Mr. Chief Justice, and Associate Justices of the Supreme Court:

    Yesterday a memorandum crossed my desk in the Oval Office, and I think its significant and important for the nation to know what is in that memorandum…..

    Then he should just read all four pages, word for word.

    Let the country hear for itself what’s in the Memo, and let them see for themselves how the Dems on the floor of the House react.

    shipwreckedcrew (b6fb20)

  204. Here’s a good rule of thumb: don’t repeat the talking points of morons like Lucian Wintrich.

    Leviticus (924d70)

  205. A “Nativist” in this case is an AMERICAN who believes in the Rule of Law.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  206. i’m so excited for to hear the speech tonight but i’m fading fast

    not sure I’m a make it

    if not gosh i’m a bounce out of bed in the morning like saturday morning cartoons and see what he said

    it’s gonna be remarkable!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  207. So those who bought the narrative about white Hispanic Jorge Zimmerman, the gentle giant, which turned not to be true.

    narciso (d1f714)

  208. Who knew Ben was a double threat at basketball and caddying?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  209. Alas there are no more Saturday morning cartoons there is only today and good morning America, that should be a violation of the Geneva and Vienna conventions.

    narciso (d1f714)

  210. nobody tells me anything

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  211. The rise of travel youth sports and adoption of Tiger Mom regimens cut into that Saturday morning market as well.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  212. Indeed, shipwreckedcrew.

    mg (2c9db1)

  213. eating frosted flakes watching today show hosts molest each other as you grow up

    it changes you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  214. 196… I had an old high school chum who – when a young man – was the California Angels’ assistant visiting locker room manager in the mid-70s. The stories he would share included Mr. Jackson basically asking him to procure women who had caught his eye… even provided vulgar “come-ons” to employ. My friend would agree and then later tell Jackson, sorry, he’d tried but struck out. He always enjoyed Reggie’s reaction.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  215. Kind of figured the rear admiral was a dribbler and a club boy, Pindandpuller

    mg (2c9db1)

  216. happyfeet
    You could stay up if you were in Hawaii.

    mg (2c9db1)

  217. Here’s a good rule of thumb: don’t repeat the talking points of morons like Lucian Wintrich.

    It’s an excellent rule of thumb. Prevents all manner of self-beclowning.

    How many times have I warned about Gateway Pundit? Seriously: how many times? A dozen? More?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  218. ok is time for to sleep but the state of the union is strong and it is awesome and everyone loves it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  219. I find the whole thing boring. But I am generally a believer in Brandeis’ famous quote that Sunlight Is The Best Disinfectant.

    Let me ask a naive question: what would be the harm if ALL the underlying documents were released to the public in un[r]edacted form? Then we could all judge for ourselves what level of abuse this was, if at all.

    Bad idea. Could reveal sources and methods.

    But a politicized memo without the redacted source documents is close to worthless.

    But OH THE EXCITEMENT

    Patterico (115b1f)

  220. I find the whole thing boring.

    Speaking of finding the whole thing boring, there’s a sing-sing TelePromTer Trump speech of some variety tonight.

    Now where did I leave my book?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  221. hawaii i never been to yet

    i’m a do that someday but I suspect my sister’s gonna get married there before not too terribly long

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  222. Who says its politicized?

    Its reportedly a summary of the underlying source documents.

    Since no one has seen it yet, and only the Dems are screaming that it’s politicized — when most of them haven’t read the memo and only Schiff has read the underlying documents — what’s the basis upon which to take the position that its a politicized memo?

    shipwreckedcrew (b6fb20)

  223. sources and methods *gigglesnort*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  224. You know war and peace had fewer characters
    Than avengers infinity war

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-captain-marvel-comics/amp/

    narciso (d1f714)

  225. you know who’s a really good dancer is that justin timberlake

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  226. Great pre-speech TV images of Eric Trump trying to flag down the hot dog vendor as the seats fill.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  227. And the underlying documents behind the dossier were what exactly. Anyways Berlin Babylon is,supposed to premiere today.

    narciso (d1f714)

  228. What the hell’s gotten into you, Patterico? This isn’t even a coherent rant.

    Maybe a break is in order. I’ starting to think Trump broke, or at least bent, part of your mind.

    Indeed. Comparing THE EVIL DOIN’S REVEALED IN #THE#MEMO to Watergate and King George III’s abuses and usurpations is totally the only coherent thing to do. Mocking that stuff is so wrong of me. Thank the Lord I have you here to point it all out to me. It seems so obvious now!!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  229. Oh my.

    Ivanka loses fashion points tonight– a dress that matches the pattern on my pizza-sauce-staind-sofa cushions.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  230. Did someone say Gigglesnort? If you listened to the blob of clay, you hear him mumble “Ben Burn, Ben Burn”

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  231. Good news- Trey Gowdy washed his hair for the TeeVee.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  232. General question:

    I have written more than once about the (IMO) serious conflict of interest that Andrew McCabe had on the Hillary investigation.

    But the fever swampers are all screaming that he should be carted off to jail.

    Huh?

    Can anyone who is not clinically insane please explain to me what the argument supporting that notion might be?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  233. Do hope the topic of the U.S. Air Force blowing $25,000,000 for fridges on AF1 comes up. Somebody craves a whole lot of extra frozen strawberries on board.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  234. Knowing violation of the FISA statute is a crime.

    As is knowing violation of Title III wiretap laws.

    An illegally performed wiretap — one without a warrant — can result in the perpetrator going to jail.

    So, until we have a clearer picture about what the “abuses” of the FISA process were, I don’t think its hyperbole that hold open the possibility that senior FBI and DOJ officials are open to potential criminal culpability.

    Peter Strzok is also represented by a former federal prosecutor who now is a prominent white collar criminal defense attorney.

    shipwreckedcrew (b6fb20)

  235. The fridges won’t cost $25m. Compliance with the one of a kind Mil-Spec will. Nobody makes a doomsday fridge.

    crazy (d99a88)

  236. @2245. Except they will, if not more – and where is the work contrcted to be done? Surprise: Oklahoma and San Antonio.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  237. 243 — very good article a few days ago explaining the cost.

    Its not like AF1 — and there are two AF1’s in existence at any given time, so the contract is actually for two sets of identical fridges — can buy the best and biggest SubZero that Home Depot carries.

    The fridges on AF1, by Air Force and Secret Service specs, must be able to carry food to prepare up to 3000 meals without resupply. AF1 is designed to remain aloft for days at a time with aerial refueling support, if necessary, while 100+ passengers and crew might be on-board.

    There are no “off the shelf” models for fridges that take up something like 2000 sq ft below the main cabin deck. So they must be designed and engineered before they can be custom built.

    Hence the expense.

    shipwreckedcrew (b6fb20)

  238. Democrats will soon be wolfing down a mountain of schiff. Bon appétit…

    http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/Schiff-Marionette.JPG

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  239. Good Lord, Obama sucked as a president. And that Sasquatch of a wifey, must be fun having her telling you where to stick it.

    mg (2c9db1)

  240. @243. Explaining ain’t justifying.

    Especially with new AF1s from Boeing in work. For $25,000,000, they can hit Walmart for a few Igloo coolers.

    Carry fewer and eat less.
    End of story.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  241. The fridges on AF1, by Air Force and Secret Service specs, must be able to carry food to prepare up to 3000 meals without resupply.

    Arbitrary. Chnge the specs. Renegotiate. It’s ‘the art of the deal.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  242. “Can anyone who is not clinically insane please explain to me what the argument supporting that notion might be?”

    – Patterico

    Well see, if he was born in May, then he couldn’t take his unknown amount of accumulated government sick leave, and therefore he will soon be indicted for high treason.

    QED

    Leviticus (924d70)

  243. For people who scream a lot about law enforcement abuses “they” do talk a lot about carting people off to jail, don’t they?

    nk (dbc370)

  244. Discredited Trump shill fabricates memo exonerating Trump…

    *yawn*

    Dave (445e97)

  245. What notion might it be?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  246. 242. Patterico (115b1f) — 1/30/2018 @ 5:52 pm

    I have written more than once about the (IMO) serious conflict of interest that Andrew McCabe had on the Hillary investigation.

    But the fever swampers are all screaming that he should be carted off to jail.

    Huh?

    Can anyone who is not clinically insane please explain to me what the argument supporting that notion might be?

    Honest services fraud, or bribery.

    It’s the idea that the Clintons, through Virgnia Governor terry McAuliffe, bribed the FBI deputy director by encouraging and financing a race by his wife for the State Senate in Virginia.

    Which may be true, but doesn’t make McCabe guilty of receiving a bribe. Case in point: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio was not indicted in spite of someone pleading guilty to bribing him.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/nyregion/2-donors-plead-guilty-but-the-mayor-is-not-charged-why.html

    But in fact, Mr. de Blasio sought a contribution from Mr. Singh for his 2013 campaign, and then took numerous steps to help him get a favorable resolution in a protracted legal dispute he had with the city. The dispute involved millions of dollars in back rent and other charges that Mr. Singh owed in relation to a restaurant that he operated on city property.

    “It was thoroughly looked at, and there’s a reason there were no charges brought because there was nothing there,” Mr. de Blasio continued….

    …Furthermore, bribery cases against elected officials based on campaign contributions are rare, the legal experts said. That is in part because the Supreme Court has drawn a clear distinction between a legal contribution to a political campaign and other kinds of payments like cash, gifts or other benefits that in effect go into the pocket of a public servant.

    It may also have been that it was simply easier for prosecutors to bring charges against the person buying access, because the men admitted guilt, in the face of abundant evidence, as part of plea deals in which they agreed to cooperate with the government against other defendants.

    And possibly there is also the suspicion on the part of the people saying McCabe belongs in jail that McCabe knowingly did something outright corrupt in exchange – they don’t know what, but they think he probably did. You know, something with the Clinton e-mail investigation, which was going on at the same time his wife was running for the State Senate in Virginia.

    Washington Post, August 4, 2015:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-looks-into-security-of-clintons-private-e-mail-setup/2015/08/04/2bdd85ec-3aae-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html?utm_term=.bfa59f1c02d7

    The FBI has begun looking into the security of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail setup, contacting in the past week a Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the unusual system, according to two government officials..

    Or maybe it was so that a RICO investigation shouldn’t be started with the information turned up in the emails.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  247. McCabe actually did not become deputy director until after his wife lost the State Senate race. The question would be what was his repsonsibilities before.

    Also, the Clintons may have had higher connections at DOJ and the FBI. So you could argue that the political race may only have been a test to determine if he was loyal to the Clintons, and was maybe a pre-condition for his promotion. Of course the people sayinbg he should be jailed aren’t thinkingh into it that deeply.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  248. https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/the-cheapening-of-good-governance-devin-nunes-memo/

    The Concerns in the ‘Memo’ Are Serious, but the Handling of It Isn’t

    Serious matters deserve serious people.

     Noah Rothman / Jan. 31, 2018

    On Wednesday night, sources told the Washington Post that both FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had made a last-ditch plea to the White House—which is now at liberty to release that memo—to keep it under wraps. These two Trump appointees, neither of whom had anything to do with the alleged abuses, warned that the document does not accurately describe investigative practices and that its release could set a dangerous precedent.

    If it doesn’t accurately describe what usually take place, how does it jeopardize anything? Disputing it would?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  249. Nah rothman as usual is a nattering nabob, when he was at campaign and elections, he reprinted press releases that’s about the extent of his analysis.

    narciso (d1f714)

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