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1/22/2018

Three-Week Funding Agreement Reached; Women & Minorities Hardest Hit

Filed under: General — JVW @ 12:09 pm



[guest post by JVW]

Note from JVW

At this point I encourage everyone to immigrate (ha ha, just having some fun here) over to Dana’s excellent post which provides reaction to how the hard-left Dems perceive the developments from earlier today.

It’s kind of hard to close comments in a post once they are underway, but if I can figure out how to do so I will.

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You know it’s bad when even CNN agrees that Schumer and the progressive wing of the party got worked over in the three-week extension. Apparently there is a plurality, if not a majority, of Americans who don’t think granting amnesty to DACA recipients is important enough to shut down federal government operations. The network of Jim Acosta sees Senate Democrats up for election this year as benefitting from the compromise, while Senate Democrats up for election in 2020 and 2022 end up being (far-)left in the lurch (pardon the pun). Indeed, it notes that the most strident progressives in the Senate such as Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker, and Bernie Sanders — all of whom have higher ambitions — were among the 18 who voted against the compromise (along with Republicans Mike Lee and Rand Paul).

As usual, in the matter of reconciliation the House is at the mercy of what the Senate does. Pelosi and Hoyer have vowed to vote against this bill, but Politico reports that the Democrat whips are not seeking unanimous opposition. In return for being frozen out of the compromise, the House leadership will likely push for new restrictions on chain-migration and national visa lotteries, so the battle lingers on. But it has to be very troubling for Democrats that their attempt to have the GOP take the heat for the government shutdown — which prior to now has always been how these things go — backfired so badly.

UPDATE: Here is the roll-call vote on breaking the filibuster. Much of it is expected: joining Paul and Lee in voting no were both Senators from lefty states like Oregon, California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, and New Jersey. Jon Tester of Montana was a surprising “No” vote, seeing as how he is up for reelection this year in a red state and had been considered to be a foe of illegal immigration in the past. I would be interested in knowing what Tester’s motivation is here — is he worried about a challenge from his left flank, even knowing that he faces a tough fight in the general election?

Also worth noting is that both of Minnesota’s Democrat Senators voted to end the shutdown, as did both Democrat Senators in New Hampshire, Delaware, Maryland, New Mexico, Virginia, and Washington.

Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.

– JVW

43 Responses to “Three-Week Funding Agreement Reached; Women & Minorities Hardest Hit”

  1. Heck, Powerline pointed out that even the New York Times deputy editorial page editor thought the Dems had chosen the wrong hill upon which to die.

    JVW (42615e)

  2. UPDATE: Here is the roll-call vote on breaking the filibuster. Much of it is expected: joining Paul and Lee in voting no were both Senators from lefty states like Oregon, California, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, and New Jersey. Jon Tester of Montana was a surprising “No” vote, seeing as how he is up for reelection this year in a red state and had been considered to be a foe of illegal immigration in the past. I would be interested in knowing what Tester’s motivation is here — is he worried about a challenge from his left flank, even knowing that he faces a tough fight in the general election?

    Also worth noting is that both of Minnesota’s Democrat Senators voted to end the shutdown, as did both Democrat Senators in New Hampshire, Delaware, Maryland, New Mexico, Virginia, and Washington.

    JVW (42615e)

  3. Dana has a better post up; I’m closing comments here and sending everyone over there.

    JVW (42615e)

  4. @ JVW: I think you may have accidentally closed comments on Dana’s post rather than this one. Hers goes to a 404 error page.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  5. Nope, haven’t done so yet. I can access her post.

    JVW (42615e)

  6. her post is gone it’s not even in america

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. The New York Daily News had an editorial Sunday to take the deal.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  8. so now that it’s resolved it’s really hard to see why Princess Lindsey felt he had to make a huge fruity ass of himself as part of this process

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. Dana, you should append your post here if you would like. It was good stuff, and added greatly to the conversation.

    JVW (42615e)

  10. http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/government-shutdown-failure-fathers-article-1.3768617

    There are six weeks to resolve DACA. Given that Democrats got one major priority — a six-year extension of the CHIP children’s health program — they should have taken Friday’s deal…. Hold off on DACA for another day.

    I remember hearing that McConnell had said that they resolved all budget issues, he would give them a vote, and promise a vote on DACA too.,

    What I am not clear on (yet) is just what Schumer wanted (maybe aguarantee oiof passage,m a vote in the House, and just what the Democrats got.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  11. It is not resolved. It is poushed off for three weeks.

    Meanwhile Democrats probably banked something.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  12. The FBI didn’t come up with a lame excuse because that’s all they could come up with. They came up with a lame excuse because they think that’s all they need…

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/286637/

    Colonel Haiku (fb7ea4)

  13. Schumer probably wanted Ryan to agree that whatever immigration compromise came out of the Senate would be given an up-or-down vote, and hopefully Ryan bluntly informed him that the House doesn’t exist to rubber-stamp the Senate’s handiwork.

    JVW (42615e)

  14. Rush Limbaugh’s theory is that Democrats hoped to blame the shutdown on Republicans (true but that wasn’t the motivating facctor) and wanted it to be in effect on Jan 20 and also when trump delivered the Satte of the Union message.

    That assumes that Schumer actually has no legislative goals.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  15. It is not resolved. It is poushed off for three weeks.

    No, it’s resolved. Having caved, if Schumer plans to pull the same stunt again only means he’s capable of bringing his party down to a whole new level of stupid.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  16. Tester, if he survives, is 2020 running mate material, the red state white male to balance out a woman/minority if they go that way again. This vote could be a feather for that cap.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  17. The point of this exercise was to find out if the media would be all in on Schumer’s side. Against all odds, they weren’t. If he forces a shutdown again, he has the dementia problem.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  18. Tester, if he survives, is 2020 running mate material, the red state white male to balance out a woman/minority if they go that way again. This vote could be a feather for that cap.

    That’s an interesting idea, but I have the feeling the Dems are going to go all-in and have a ticket with two women. It also gives them a convenient excuse if they lose: it’s not that the party has lurched too far to the left, it’s just that latent misogyny (even among progressive men) is preventing us from electing super-woke feminist leaders.

    JVW (42615e)

  19. nominating two women oh my goodness

    that’s just rubbing hillary’s face in the poopies of her humiliating defeat

    she’s gonna feel like such a loser

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  20. “The point of this exercise was to find out if the media would be all in on Schumer’s side. Against all odds, they weren’t.”

    Turned on Rush while doing a grocery run and he said the press at the White House briefing looked like they were at a funeral. They really do consider the American people the opposition.

    But I still think you’re right, crying wolf about conservatives for decades and then lighting their hair on fire over Trump is showing more and more people how unhinged the msm really is and some are starting to realize it:

    “Greenwald has been excommunicated from the liberal salons that celebrated him in the Snowden era; anybody who questions the Russia consensus, he says, “becomes a blasphemer. Becomes a heretic. I think that’s what they see me as.” Greenwald is no longer invited on MSNBC, and he’s portrayed in the Twitter fever swamp as a leading villain of the self-styled Resistance. “I used to be really good friends with Rachel Maddow,” he says. “And I’ve seen her devolution from this really interesting, really smart, independent thinker into this utterly scripted, intellectually dishonest, partisan hack.” His view of the liberal online media is equally charitable. “Think about one interesting, creative, like, intellectually novel thing that [Vox’s] Matt Yglesias or Ezra Klein have said in like ten years,” he says. “In general, they’re just churning out Democratic Party agitprop every single day of the most superficial type.” (Reached for comment, none of these people would respond to Greenwald.)”

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/glenn-greenwald-russia-investigation.html

    harkin (8256c3)

  21. The next problem is the stall on nominations, where the Dems are dragging out each vote by every procedural delay possible. Much like the 9th Circuit does with death penalty cases.

    It has been nearly a year waiting for some administration nominees. A humble suggestion: after the budget and appropriation bills are done, the Senate adjourns for 3 weeks. During which time the President issues 423 recess appointments.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  22. Call that the Passive Nuclear Option.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  23. Dana’s post — which I hope wasn’t lost by accident, but I sympathize if it was (I’ve done that as a blogger more times than I can count) — contained many quotes from Dems who were upset with how Schumer overplayed his hand and had to fold early. The post was full of “tears of my enemy” stuff that I was looking forward to reading at leisure. In the meantime, or in liue thereof, this article from TheHill.com includes some nice schadenfreude-generating quotes too.

    McConnell has won this round, and congrats to him for that; but he lacks any killer instinct or he would have followed the Beldar Plan and used this as an opportunity to permanently break the legislative logjam.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  24. JVW,

    I posted on top of yours accidentally because I didn’t realize you had already covered the issue. I immediately trashed mine when I saw it.

    Dana (023079)

  25. If JVW doesn’t mind, I can try to retrieve it. I don’t like accidentally stepping on fellow contributor’s toes.

    Dana (023079)

  26. “Stephen Miller
    @redsteeze
    All the pundits on left who claimed this was a GOP shutdown sure seemed pissed Dems didn’t hold the line on DACA to keep government closed. Pick one, guys.”

    harkin (8256c3)

  27. Punt, pass and kick the can down the field to after the Super Bowl, of course.

    Tickets, anybody?? Or more likely, everybody.

    Schmucks.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. The tests of character and public service continue to provide proof of it’s absence in a Quorum.

    Just like law enforcement, Congress has public service just a little less important than self-service.

    It’s way past time to pare down the benefits of office which make it too appealing to the wrong candidates.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  29. But the present drama is all we’ve got for now.

    If Schoomer didn’t make McConnell tattoo the agreement to his man-blobs he’s history.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  30. Man boobs…

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  31. Just like law enforcement, Congress has public service just a little less important than self-service.

    It’s way past time to pare down the benefits of office which make it too appealing to the wrong candidates.
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 1/22/2018 @ 2:22 pm


    Comrade, are becoming a patriotic conservative?

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  32. 14… you should get a radio show, Sammy, since you’re tuned in to Dim strategy meetings.

    Colonel Haiku (fb7ea4)

  33. Beldar Plan doesn’t quite roll off the tongue to be catchy and isn’t that the home planet of Dan Ackroyd?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  34. Hoagie

    Please don’t start understanding me all of a sudden. Your shock of recognition is too harsh a light.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  35. McConnell has won this round, and congrats to him for that; but he lacks any killer instinct or he would have followed the Beldar Plan and used this as an opportunity to permanently break the legislative logjam.

    Why deny Democrats the opportunity to look like buffoons?

    random viking (6a54c2)

  36. I posted on top of yours accidentally because I didn’t realize you had already covered the issue. I immediately trashed mine when I saw it.

    Oh goodness, don’t do that. Your contributions unfailingly add value and you should always feel free to add your thoughts as an update or a comment to a post of mine.

    JVW (42615e)

  37. McConnell has won this round, and congrats to him for that; but he lacks any killer instinct or he would have followed the Beldar Plan and used this as an opportunity to permanently break the legislative logjam.

    Don’t you think he feared that Collins or Graham or Murkowski or McCain (had he been healthy and in attendance) might have then defected in the name of “Senate comity” and scuttled the plan? I doubt that McConnell can break that logjam with only a 52-48 majority, unless he knows for sure that all of the Senate Republicans are stouthearted. The thing of it is, I don’t think the so-called “moderate Democrats” like Tester or Heitkamp or Manchin would reciprocate if they were in the same position, so this is another situation where a certain segment of the GOP insists upon playing by Marquis of Queensbury Rules while the other side goes all-out streetfight.

    JVW (42615e)

  38. I guess this is what happens when the democrats internal polling shows the American people side with the republicans. Looks like president Trump led the republicans for the first in my life winning the narrative. Guess the dems aren’t used to a republican that doesn’t back down. Another good day with Trump at the helm. If Hillary was president the illegals would be moving into your local streets about now.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  39. Children got something hoagie. Or do youegrudge them too?

    Congress let CHIP’s long-term funding lapse 114 days ago. The program became a bargaining chip in larger negotiations over the federal budget and immigration.

    But things changed early Monday afternoon, as the Senate began a series of votes to a bill extending the federal budget for an additional three weeks — and CHIP’s budget for an addition

    https://www.vox.com/2018/1/22/16919640/chip-funding-congress-shutdown

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  40. begrudge them too?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  41. Note from JVW

    At this point I encourage everyone to immigrate (ha ha, just have some fun here) over to Dana’s excellent post which provides reaction to how the hard-left Dems perceive the developments from earlier today.

    It’s kind of hard to close comments in a post once they are underway, but if I can figure out how to do so I will.

    JVW (42615e)

  42. @ JVW, who asked:

    Don’t you think he [McConnell] feared that Collins or Graham or Murkowski or McCain (had he been healthy and in attendance) might have then defected in the name of “Senate comity” and scuttled the plan [to finish nuking the filibuster]?

    Oh yes, absolutely, you’re correct. McConnell himself isn’t convinced. I don’t know that any GOP senator is convinced.

    They’re all being fools together, and they’re sacrificing a rare opportunity — when the GOP controls the House, the White House, and the Senate — to actually pass the GOP agenda. The next time the Dems have the Senate and the GOP threatens any sort of filibuster, the Dems will kill it, and all the GOP senators will say they are shocked, shocked, and dismayed that the Dems have done what Reid’s already promised they would do the next chance they got. In other words, the Senate Republicans are still in Charlie Brown running-toward-Lucy’s-football mode. I’m disappointed in every damned one of them.

    @ random viking, who asked (#):

    Why deny Democrats the opportunity to look like buffoons?

    Which would you rather have? This tiny victory, whose only meaningful consequence will be some short-term grumbling within the Democratic Party? Or repealing and replacing Obamacare, passing a long-term budget, passing immigration reform that does in fact accomplish all of the GOP’s goals, passing reciprocal concealed carry — in short, passing all the other conservative legislation that could get a majority in both chambers and a signature from the WH? Duh.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  43. We would rather have the other, but unless you lock the dissenters in a steamer trunk and drop them in the Potomac, or find four replacements that isn’t happening.

    narciso (d1f714)


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