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1/12/2018

Durbin: The Term “Chain Migration” Is Offensive to Blacks

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:45 am

So as we all know, Donald Trump issued a series of tweets this morning concerning the allegation that he called Haiti and African countries “sh*thole countries.” Trump said “this was not the language used” — but specifically denied only 1) that he insulted Haitians as opposed to criticizing their country, and 2) that he said “take them out” about Haitians. (Some interpreted this as a denial of the “sh*thole countries” phrase; I’m not so sure.) Then Senator Dick Durbin came out and said that, yes, Trump did say all that — although apparently he used the word “sh*tholes” to describe African countries, not Haiti. Durbin even said the word “sh*thole” out loud.

OK, fine. I want to focus on a different aspect of Durbin’s statement — because it shows his ability to be absurdly sanctimonious with a straight face. Namely, he claims that he told the President that “chain migration” is offensive to black people, because they came here in chains. Yes, he really said that. Here’s the video of Durbin:

DURBIN: When it came to the issue of “chain migration” I said to the President: “Do you realize how painful that term is to so many people? African Americans believe that they migrated to America in chains. And when you speak about ‘chain migration’ it hurts them personally.” He said: “Oh, that’s a good line.”

You have to hand it to Durbin, that he was able to pull that off without cracking up.

Oh well. Trump loves to stoke racially charged controversies, especially on the long weekend when the country celebrates Martin Luther King, Jr. Now Trump has a “let’s fight black people” kerfuffle to last him the whole holiday weekend. Last year he attacked civil rights leader John Lewis at the beginning of the MLK Day weekend. This year, it’s calling African countries “sh*tholes.” It’s what he likes to do.

By the way, I guess this is kinda burying the lede, but this blog has obtained exclusive audio of the President’s remarks on immigrants. It turns out that he was profane, but everybody got the quote wrong, as you can hear in this short clip from the meeting. Must Credit Patterico!

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

210 Responses to “Durbin: The Term “Chain Migration” Is Offensive to Blacks”

  1. Letting Scalia’s get ventilated not a problem for Durwood, not enough to warrant releasing communications anyways

    narciso (21eb6d)

  2. Scalice although he probably wouldn’t have mimded that either

    narciso (21eb6d)

  3. Scalia was retro though, he had a blind spot for the hispanos thats why you see paisan places like Norristown (PA), Kennett Square (PA), Highwood (IL) and Melrose Park (IL) initially be receptive.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  4. A wise presser should keep that in mind if one of the administration’s favored Hindi steps to the podium. And do natives of the transitional sub-North African Arab-to-Black nations which show up as ruby red on the map think there is sort of a litter box effect with the Sahara desert?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  5. Everything’s a slur these days. And when everything’s a slur, nothing is.

    Durbin is no better than Trump — and at least Trump has ignorance as an excuse.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  6. Reflecting on certain nations’ shortcomings is now racist.

    When I worked in the Caribbean/Latin America I saw some incredibly beautiful areas including beaches transformed into absolute s**tholes because of ignorance, criminality, poverty and neglect. You can not deny that this is partially due to the culture.

    Asking to filter out these cultural aspects and insisting on admitting only those applicants who have already demonstrated an ability to rise above it is not racism, it’s common sense.

    To deny this is to welcome MS-13.

    harkin (8256c3)

  7. Elmwood Park.

    That is actually a funny line. “Chain migration? No, no, no, we don’t want that. We abolished the Trans-Atlantic slave trade in 1809.”

    nk (dbc370)

  8. this reminds me how sickly racist perverted Mitt Romney’s church has been throughout the years

    so sad how they treat black people

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. :(

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. I have no doubt that the Democrats enjoy baiting Trump, in the sure and certain knowledge that he will lash out eventually. Apparently Trump wasn’t phased by the sign at the beginning of the D.C. ride that said “Your IQ must be _this_ high to enter this attraction.”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  11. … and dog, circus animals, bicycle riders. (the list was a little thin)

    You know who really finds chains offensive, invariable taking violent umbrage?

    Cats. Cats do not take kindly to the lede. They’ll cut you.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  12. Yes. African migration to the United States was fine back in the day when they weren’t paid for their labor.

    noel (b4d580)

  13. Most of these countries humans sh!t with the animals, or do the animals sh!t with the humans?

    mg (8cbc69)

  14. And thank you for Guns N’ Roses “song”, Patterico. I think. It’s the first time I’ve heard it.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. Oh. That was sarcasm. Just in case you were wondering.

    noel (b4d580)

  16. My college roomate used to call them Scums and Posers

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  17. but he’d did like that particular song, being a “holdout” from the Ashburn neighborhood (SW Side Chicago).

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  18. Jeffrey P. Bezos, founder of Amazon and owner of The Washington Post, announced Friday that he is donating $33 million to a scholarship fund for young “dreamers,” immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children.

    i feel like i’m kind of over this whole amazon thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. Most of these countries humans sh!t with the animals, or do the animals sh!t with the humans?
    Well, in Korea, they fertilize their fields with human manure, so don’t eat any uncooked vegetables or certain fruits like melons should you ever visit there. Dysentery.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Did he actually hear it? Or did he “hear it” like that black politician “heard” someone call him the n-word when he walked past a group of TEA party demonstrators? IIRC the recordings were reviewed and he heard something that no one said.

    mark (2f585f)

  21. we have a korean place near me what’s kinda divey and funky i been wanting to try so bad

    it looks like a fun evening but it has to be a drinky evening where you make a long meal of it i think

    so definitely not til after dry january

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. It could all be a pony show for the less-crazy members (non-TX, non-CA) members of the CBC and Sens. like McCaskill, Donnelly and Doug Jones to justify them opposing a less-“inclusive” bill.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  23. Both Koreas?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  24. i think most of this is just fake news for CNN fake news propaganda slut Jake Tapper to hyperventilate over Mr. mark

    i’m personally not getting super-excited about it

    this whole 3-day weekend thing on the other hand, that’s pretty darn exciting

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  25. Both Koreas?

    Where American soldiers are stationed.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. Is MLK day really a holiday where the President has to sign a proclamation every year picking the date and declaring it a federal holiday?

    nk (dbc370)

  27. His birthplace is being designated by the national parks

    narciso (21eb6d)


  28. 14.Yes. African migration to the United States was fine back in the day when they weren’t paid for their labor.
    noel


    No, it wasn’t fine Noel. That’s why we fought a war over it. So perhaps before you get on board with the democrats you should consider their historic motives.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  29. If its not, then that’s some serious PR-minded over-correction.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  30. What if they find oil there?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  31. mg and nk…..

    “Most of these countries humans sh!t with the animals, or do the animals sh!t with the humans?”

    “Well, in Korea, they fertilize their fields with human manure, so don’t eat any uncooked vegetables or certain fruits like melons should you ever visit there. Dysentery.”

    Right on cue. Trump gave permission to other folks of his temperament to talk in a like manner.

    What, no Irish insults today? Polish? Israeli? Or is it just countries with non-white majorities?

    noel (b4d580)

  32. But let’s talk about the rousing reception he got in Cicero, 1967 if memory serves

    narciso (21eb6d)

  33. it’s not really a for reals holiday unless they make special oreos for it Mr. nk

    but i get monday off

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. According to the SJWs, even numbers are racist.

    “Numbers are social constructs and likely to embody the dominant (racist) assumptions that shape contemporary society,” they write. As a consequence, they assert that “in many cases, numbers speak for White racial interests.”

    The professors also acknowledge the tension between social justice and quantitative analysis, saying that while statistics can be used to point out the failures of social justice programming, “data is often used to shut down, silence, and belittle equity work.

    Despite the purported danger of statistics being used to reinforce white privilege, they predict that if used properly, statistics can “expose and delegitimize the racist (and sexist, classist, hetero-normative, and ableist) assumptions, policies, and practices that are currently supported by the uncritical use of quantitative data.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10365

    Point out very real statistics in crime, illiteracy, illegitimacy as related to certain communities, you are racist.

    harkin (8256c3)

  35. noel, my information may be dated (Korean agriculture may now have developed to full Western methods), but the use of “night soil” as fertilizer in Korea, and the consequent dysentery among Westerners who had not developed resistance to it, is not a Korean joke. It was a warning given to American soldiers stationed there. And, furthermore, go soak your head.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. nk…..”And, furthermore, go soak your head.”

    No need to clarify your temperament with me. Thanks anyway.

    noel (b4d580)

  37. What, no Irish insults today? Polish? Israeli? Or is it just countries with non-white majorities?

    — Why is it difficult to prosecute Irish bootleggers?
    — Because no jury will believe that an Irishman would sell a bottle of whiskey.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY

    “Be nice to people who; are inferior to you…” – Tom Lehrer

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  39. Reflecting on certain nations’ shortcomings is now racist.

    If someone said “we don’t need people here from that sh1th0le family named Trump” you would understand it’s not just those other Trumps I’m talking about, wouldn’t you?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  40. “Do you realize how painful that term is to so many people? African Americans believe that they migrated to America in chains. And when you speak about ‘chain migration’ it hurts them personally.”

    Maybe some politicians pretend that.

    It isn’t for that reason that it is offensive.

    What is offensive about it is the idea that some countries are better than others, and that blacks are inferior and of lower quality. And what’s perverse about this is that immigration by blacks, whether from the Caribbean or from Africa, improves all sociological indicators among blacks and reduces the amount of social pathology among blacks in the United States. Colleges use immigrants to fill racial quotas. (Oprah Winfrey has noted that the students she supports in South Africa want to go to school. That might be because their parents are paying for it and nobody is forced to attend)

    Sropping “chain migration” (which could be called favoring families) was dead anyway, but now it’s really, really dead, and if that’s a condition of passing a budget, (because DACA is a condition and stopping chain migration is made condition of DACA) then the budget process is dead.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  41. It’s not the words “chain migration” that are offensive, it’s the idea of stopping it, and of opposing the diversity visa lottery – part of the goal of which was to prevent the proportion of Americans who are black from dropping.

    Some politicians don’t like the idea that the proportion of the American population that is black might go down, even though the effect either way is insignificant.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  42. No, it wasn’t fine Noel. That’s why we fought a war over it.

    Well, actually Jefferson put a stop to that importation in 1808. But I get your point.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  43. Sropping “chain migration” (which could be called favoring families) was dead anyway, but now it’s really, really dead, and if that’s a condition of passing a budget, (because DACA is a condition and stopping chain migration is made condition of DACA) then the budget process is dead.

    Then the budget process is dead because favoring “chain migration” is the PRIME cause of the illegal immigration, as we use up all the quotas bringing in step-grandmothers for free medical care and never a worker.

    I am willing to bet that not a single unconnected 20yo Mexican has legally immigrated to the USA in the last 50 years. Unless you already have family here, you cannot enter due to the quotas being used up on the family preference.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  44. “chain migration” is the PRIME cause of the illegal immigration, as we use up all the quotas bringing in step-grandmothers for free medical care and never a worker.

    Onl;y if the FIRST thing you agree on is total numbers.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  45. part of the goal of which was to prevent the proportion of Americans who are black from dropping.

    Would it be racist to say that we wanted to keep the percentage that were non-Hispanic white from dropping? Because the only group that ISN’t dropping are Hispanics, for some odd reason.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  46. Onl;y if the FIRST thing you agree on is total numbers.

    There has to be an upper bound on immigration so that infrastructure can keep up. If you don’t understand why that’s important, and what happens when numbers are not managed well, come to Los Angeles and drive 5 miles on nearly any freeway.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  47. Durbin even said the word “sh*thole” out loud.

    Imagine that. Although he’s bringing up there rear given every news outlet and broadcaster, pundit and chyron writer has written or spoken that word countless times around the globe in the past 12 hours.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. i wonder how many poophole immigrants live on slick dick durbin’s street

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  49. If you don’t understand why that’s important, and what happens when numbers are not managed well, come to Los Angeles and drive 5 miles on nearly any freeway.

    Not to mention that they drive up the price of avocado toast if you can find it in the first place because they snatch up all the avocados for guacamole.

    (That was for noel.)

    nk (dbc370)

  50. dirty weight watcher lesbian oprah winfrey bogarts all the avocados

    she has a special avocado fridge just for so she has them and you don’t

    i hate her so much

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. Chemistry is RACIIIIST because chain reactions.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  52. Actually, the price of mangoes (hopefully not night-fertilized), tomatoes, and limes are sky high now. Lets find places here (presumably in the Deep South) where we can replicate the conditions with the least expense. But if I start looking in certain neighborhoods for help as opposed to posting an application for seasonal visas, am I a wayciss?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  53. especially if they are Gold Chain reactions

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  54. Geographical distribution of the bull headed dung beetle {map}.

    I understand Georgia Carolina and Louisiana have swamp which would be asset to a dung beetle, but how else to explain California Illinois Missouri Michigan besides their large population of sidewalk crappers?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  55. Beldar (fa637a) — 1/12/2018 @ 10:59 am

    lol

    felipe (5b25e2)

  56. And if we don’t bar them now
    We’ll never bar them again
    I can almost hear you saying
    You will never break the chain

    nk (dbc370)

  57. peoples hearts go pitter patter over sh!tholes that don’t matter
    when a lawyer gets in the way tax-payers pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay

    mg (8cbc69)

  58. blockchain.

    the racist dog whistle hurts my ears it’s so loud

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  59. if you’re wondering what a bull headed dung beetle looks like, here’s a good representative specimen. [jpg]

    papertiger (c8116c)

  60. It just doesn’t matter what he says. Almost every day it’s another of Donald’s rants that makes heads spin all around the world but some of you just keep defending this. Now he is insulting the countries of Africa…. and maybe throw in a few Caribbean nations just for sport.

    How dare anyone think that Trump calling African nations shitholes, while praising Norway’s immigrants, could be considered a racist comment. Maybe he just wants to make sure that there are no future President Obamas. We know Barack was born there after all.

    noel (b4d580)

  61. Then you just solved the Illinois and Missouri aspect of your original question
    (Durbin, surprisingly to some, is from the Metro East (of St. Louis) area not from Chicaw-gah).

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  62. And now here’s back when the Senator, then a Congressman was a good kind of Bat Sh!t Crazy.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  63. Beldar @53

    I guess this song must also be memory holed

    https://youtu.be/Xw4AV_BeE24

    kishnevi (bb03e6)

  64. interesting histogram of historical oil prices here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. I have to say, our government has been putting on a good show for us in the new season.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. The term “Durbin” is offensive to pretty much everyone.

    WarEagle82 (2b3d34)

  67. everyone hates Mia Love now they think she’s a vapid attention-seeking trollop

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  68. Welcome to the Jungle is very hurtful, Mr Rose.

    Pinandpuller (2f29e1)

  69. love her

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  70. everyone hates Mia Love now they think she’s a vapid attention-seeking trollop

    She dared confront the schoolyard bully, so she has cooties? Bullies are bad enough. Their little stooges are worse.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  71. Chain letters.
    What about chain smokers, like Obama?
    Chain lightning sounds scary.
    Chain of command sounds REALLY bad.
    Food chain? I’d say cannibals, but someone would call that racist, too.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  72. Looking at GNR you have every kind of mix. I see a Jew, a woman, two drug addicts and a cripple.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  73. no

    Mia Love’s a stupid twit what runs off and emotes in typical pervert mitt romney style when she doesn’t know the facts

    but she knows her constituents are dumbasses with easily puckered buttholes

    remember vapid trollop Mia Love has no idea what President Trump said

    she has no idea of what the context was

    but she likes attention like a stripper on the pole so she struts down the catwalk flashes her second-rate boobies and makes an ass out of herself

    she’s disgusting

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  74. Dick Durbin…you are…the weakest link! Goodbye!

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  75. oh he’s another one that’s on my list

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  76. “Democrat” is racist because it reminds me of the KKK
    (see: 1924 Democratic National Convention, also called the Klanbake, held at the Madison Square Garden in New York City from June 24 to July 9, 1924, took a record 103 ballots to nominate presidential candidate, John W. Davis who lost)

    Neo (d1c681)

  77. You told me to leave you alone
    My father said, “Come on home”
    My doctor said, “Take it easy”
    Oh but your lovin’ is much too strong
    I’m added to your

    Chain, chain, chain
    (Chain, chain, chain)
    Chain, chain, chain
    (Chain, chain, chain)
    Chain, chain, chai-i-in
    (Chain, chain, chain)
    Chain of fools


    Hey Durbin
    That’s ‘Retha Franklin
    He don’t remember the Queen of Soul

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  78. About what people consider to be “Offensive” — I don’t care.

    There is no enumerated right in the Constitution to not be offended.

    Get over it.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  79. done.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  80. Did Trump show Sheila Jackson Lee the photos of NASA planting the American Flag on Haiti? It almost tipped the island over.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  81. What, no Irish insults today? Polish? Israeli? Or is it just countries with non-white majorities?

    noel (b4d580) — 1/12/2018 @ 10:07 am

    What’s a six course Irish meal?

    A cesspool and six straws.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  82. Do you know the origins of African Slavery?

    All of the cotton-picking Irishman died of sunburns.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  83. Censure Captain Chaos or pay the price Republicans! Your choice.

    Tillman (a95660)


  84. What, no Irish insults today? Polish? Israeli? Or is it just countries with non-white majorities?

    Do you consider Ireland, Poland and Israel sh!tholes, noel? Then fine, call them sh!tholes. BTW there are sh!tholes in America too. Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Columbus, Chicago, I can go on and guess what? They are all run by democrat leftists. But they are in a country with a white majority so you can feel better.

    Have you ever noticed on The Price Is Right they never give away vacations to Somalia or Haiti or Venezuela? Know why? They’re sh!tholes! Hahahaha.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  85. Poland was thrown under the bus in the last administration, and multiple tracks over Israel. Remember when comey blamed Poland for the death camps

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. Would it be wrong to recognize that Durbin was inventing a problem with his “chain migration” reference and then also acknowledging that the President has said something really inappropriate….. once again?

    noel (b4d580)

  87. The decapitation of the polish cabinet was the main course
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32376463

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. And in case you want to jump to another squirrel:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTXxm7dVAAAY_F7.jpg:large

    narciso (d1f714)

  89. attention-seeking dirty perv-twit Mia Love should learn to have class and poise like Stormy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. if you gonna have a porn name anyway you might as well aspire to have the class and dignity what’s expected to attend such a moniker

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. What’s a seven course Irish meal?

    A six-pack and a potato.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  92. Now you are talking about “class and dignity” happyfeet? C’mon. Stick to the subjects you know best and leave Mia alone.

    But I have to say I love you like a brother. I have a lot of them, however, so that doesn’t necessarily mean too much.

    noel (b4d580)

  93. Ok. I’ll say it..

    People have gone soft on Darwinian principles.

    It’s probably because survival is no longer the challenge for many because our basic needs are met without much energy or time. An idle mind is like an aimless wanderer seeking greater fulfillment.

    So we’ve evolved into whiners seeking to explore what real power we can exert on our environment, manipulating matters to our individual advantage, rather than lifting all boats.

    This is especially true for men who feel they should mansplain the METOOs or white men telling blacks, how they should feel.

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  94. She was a little naive, to believe first some unnamed and now Dick Durbin.

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. love you too happy weekend!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  96. Biggest lie about Ireland- a bar on every corner.
    Truth be told its four.

    mg (8cbc69)

  97. I would be happier if he pushed a cream- pie into his mug.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/12/terry-mcauliffe-says-hed-punch-trump-youd-have-pic/

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  98. Having exacter a blood price with heather heyer would knock him down.

    narciso (d1f714)

  99. Do you know the origins of African Slavery?

    All of the cotton-picking Irishman died of sunburns.

    That is actually true. New World slaves at first were mostly white, enslaved for their debts or for crimes or just enslaved*, but it was found that they did not last long working all day under the hot sun, so the plantation owners, from Maryland to Brazil, switched to black slaves from Africa who could withstand the climate better.

    *Robert Louis Stevenson’s “Kidnapped” books were based on the true story of a young British nobleman who was sold to slavery in Virginia by his conniving uncle.

    nk (dbc370)

  100. If the “wish I picked my own cotton crowd” found out about the heat the hard way, would Balkan slavs, Armenians, Azeris, East Indians or others who could “tan” have gotten the call.

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  101. The word “slave” does come from Slav, because so many slaves were Slavs, but that dates back to Roman times.

    nk (dbc370)

  102. To describe the issue here, as many media outlets have, as one of coarse or vulgar language, is itself an obscenity. The president’s remarks reflect a moral principle that has guided policy while in office, a principle that is obvious to all but that some simply refuse to articulate. What is certain however, that is in the face of this delusion, the president will continue to articulate it himself.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/trump/550454/

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  103. I found this post from NRO’s Rich Lowry thought-provoking. Titled Country of Origin Matters, it may be the closest attempt I’ve read yet to a partial justification of Trump’s sh!thole remarks. The most effective argument he makes may be this one:

    [S]hould immigration to the U.S. fundamentally be about the interests of the immigrants (in which case you don’t care so much about these outcomes, since the immigrants themselves are better off than in their home countries), or should it the interests of the United States (in which case, you are going to want to put more emphasis on skills)[?] I’m in the latter camp.

    I agree that our immigration policy ought to be about what’s best for the United States. We can, do, and should take due account of would-be immigrants’ political persecution, and their refugee status from wars and disasters. But we have these limited asylum and refugee programs in the first place because being compassionate, indeed an international leader in compassion, is a part of our enlightened self-interest on a long-term historic basis. But compassion is for these exceptional situations; and even in them, compassion is only one of the interests to be weighed in the balance.

    So I agree in substantial part with Lowry: For the overwhelming majority of potential immigrants, we can and should be considering our benefits from admitting them legally within our borders — not the prospective benefits to the would-be legal immigrants. And I definitely agree that it’s useful to keep that frame of reference in mind throughout these discussions!

    Lowry also attempts a bit of rhetorical jiu-jitsu, effectively re-defining “sh!thole” to mean those countries with poor educational systems, posting, he said,

    some tables, demonstrating how the national origin of immigrants does matter. This doesn’t mean any given immigrant from a certain place is going to have a hard time here. It doesn’t mean that any of the immigrants who are poor or on means-tested government programs are bad people. What it mostly means is that education matters a lot, and that immigrants who tend to be poorly educated are going to struggle and there are clear patterns based on national origin.

    The tables do support his assertions, and I have no quibble with anything in his argument before its final phrase: “… and there are clear patterns based on national origin.”

    I don’t even quibble with his assertions about what the patterns are. We’re none of us surprised, indeed, that potential immigrants from Norway will indeed tend, as evidenced in the statistics, to be better educated than those from Haiti.

    What I quibble with instead is the assumption that we should use those clear patterns, those statistics, associated with country of origin, when we have available to us instead the specific educational achievements of the individual would-be legal immigrants.

    Why would we use a vague stereotype when we have data that generate statistics? That would be inefficient and ineffective. But likewise: Why should we use national statistics when we can look at an individual applicant’s actual educational achievements?

    Sure, we want to prioritize people whose achievements make them good choices, from our own national perspective, for immigration. And we want to do it with the best accuracy — not because we’re being compassionate, but because we’re being clear-eyed and want the best data. It’s in our best interest to individualize — and it’s therefore contrary to our best interests to grade and judge based specifically on country of origin, whether a sh!thole or its opposite.

    And then, as part of that individualized assessment, when we’re considering not just a particular applicant’s country of origin but everything else about his origin too, we can make an individualized determination of whether coming from a sh!thole country, and having a demonstrated history of successfully overcoming challenges there, makes a particular applicant a relatively better choice for us, as compared to someone else who came from a “first world” country with a great overall educational system (but lacked such a personal record of accomplishment against odds).

    Beldar (fa637a)

  104. no

    Mia Love’s a stupid twit what runs off and emotes in typical pervert mitt romney style when she doesn’t know the facts

    but she knows her constituents are dumbasses with easily puckered buttholes

    remember vapid trollop Mia Love has no idea what President Trump said

    she has no idea of what the context was

    but she likes attention like a stripper on the pole so she struts down the catwalk flashes her second-rate boobies and makes an ass out of herself

    she’s disgusting

    Based on your comment, the “disgusting” one would be you, happyfeet.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  105. I think the Lifeboat scenario holds water on immigration policy.

    Compassion is lightly clubbing the water-logged like baby seals even if there is room for more. Gotta conserve water and rations.

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  106. no i’m awesome and I pay obeisance to Truth!

    and that means I must humbly acknowledge that i do not know what President Trump said

    and i do not know any of the context in which what he is alleged to have said would have been said

    and i do not have enough information to jump to conclusions and run off screeching like haughty arrogant Mia Love who makes everything about her because she’s a narcissistic dimbulb virtue-signaling twit

    if she repents and learns to behave like an adult i might forgive her one day

    but that day is not today

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  107. Do you think Mr. President Trump the Donald will learn from this that Democrats are not his friends and are always looking for a chance to stick a shiv in his back?

    Yeah, I don’t think he will, either.

    nk (dbc370)

  108. with nevertrump resolved to piss away the R majorities there’s not really an option but for President Trump to cultivate relationships across the aisle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. With friends like flake and corker, we don’t need any enemies,

    But the real point is the democrats will not allow a discussion except on amnesty ad infinitum, its worked for them, despite being a net detriment.

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. It’s Trump’s base which is pissing away the R majorities by nominating dipsticks in the primaries and not coming out to vote for them in the general election, but that’s a complicated subject for another day, and it involves the long-term strategic reason the Democrats had for letting Trump win.

    nk (dbc370)

  111. Of course when the senate actually vouches for a senator on trial for actual corruption, over there party’s nominee what does that tell you.
    When in a previous cycle it did all but shake their poem poms for Cory booker.

    narciso (d1f714)

  112. “letting Trump win..”

    Excellent strategy.

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  113. That’s why they 1.2 billion dollars because they wanted to lose.

    narciso (d1f714)

  114. its the economy stupid rear admiral burnt

    mg (8cbc69)

  115. It’s Trump’s base which is pissing away the R majorities by nominating dipsticks in the primaries and not coming out to vote for them in the general election

    it’s exactly this sort of mean-spirited finger-pointing what’s so destructive of party unity

    happyfeet (28a91b)


  116. its the economy stupid rear admiral burnt

    I may be sorry but what are you talking about?

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  117. That’s why they came up with tube 11th commandment Pikachus.

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. ugh i hate the filter we’re so fighting and it started it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  119. BTW there are sh!tholes in America too. Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, Philadelphia, St. Louis,

    So, if Texas closed its borders to people from sh1th0les like [wherever you live], saying “we have enough of their kind”, you’d have no problem with it?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  120. If the Senate vote on impeachment was set for yesterday, Trump would be gone. Assuming that the Dems retake the House and, therefore, impeach Trump on the basis of “conduct unbecoming” (the only non-silly charge) at least we can rely on Trump to stay off Twitter and keep his talk-hole shut.

    Because any day now he’ll be more Presidential.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  121. Of course you thad ‘dead man’ cochran, who wouldn’t accept defeat, and is one of the sponsors of chain migration btw.

    narciso (d1f714)

  122. #54, urban, in SW Florida big mangoes are under a buck, roma tomatoes are $1.29/lb, and limes are .25 each. Not bad at all.

    ropelight (93ed62)

  123. Because if the GOP loses the House and the Senate and 14 statehouses in November, they WILL blame Trump and be rather clear about it. And to all the Trumpskins left at that time they will tell you where to door is (thinking you’re too dumb to find it yourself).

    There are (apparently tribal) people like me who support Trump because it is the only way to support the Party. But when it becomes one, or the other, it ain’t gonna be Trump.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  124. Based on what again, a growing economy, the defeat of a rather persistent foe and some significant structural changes in govt. Stop huffing paint fumes

    narciso (d1f714)

  125. They have doing very well seeding the seeds of their own downfall, this public access grishenko things has long since run its course.

    narciso (d1f714)

  126. it’s exactly this sort of mean-spirited finger-pointing what’s so destructive of party unity

    When I hear “party unity” from a wild-eyed faction that repeatedly calls the rest of the party “RINOs” and “traitors” and “cucks”, well, I just have to say GFYATHYRIO. With a smile, of course. Don’t want to be uncivil.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  127. The Republicans will lose the way Trump won. Not on substance, but on image. Because Trump will have tarnished it. But they’re not ready to declare him septic yet.

    nk (dbc370)

  128. Except for my own congressman who is considering a gubernatorial run against the dauphin of tampa, you could probably count on two hands congressmen you can trust, whose yours?

    narciso (d1f714)

  129. President Trump is the bedrock the Republican Party stands on. He’s a steady presence and a firm hand on the tiller. Everybody says so.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  130. happyfeet is about as much a Trumpkin as Chuck Schumer is, Kevin. Or as much a Republican for that matter. He’s just … wait for it … yanking our chain.

    nk (dbc370)

  131. It’s a remarkably sustained campaign if so, nk.

    If this is satire, he’s still insane for putting this much energy into it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  132. gowdy has just resigned from the house ethics committee.
    cheers.

    mg (8cbc69)

  133. Look i go to the dance and i dance with the one what brung me. This is a very auspicious time for america, and so much good is unfolding before our eyes. And Mr. Trump gets a lot of the credit.

    He’s changed not just the conversation, but also he’s begun dozens of new ones!

    He’s the sorting hat president, that’s what he is. He tells you which house you belong in, and I’m in the optimistic one what adores the ease and speed with which President Trump has rolled back so much of the food stamp agenda.

    and nevertrump’s in the snooty insecure house that so can’t even

    and you know what that’s ok

    cause now we all know which house we’re in

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  134. they’re not ready to declare him septic yet.

    nk (dbc370) — 1/12/2018 @ 6:31 pm

    Nice word choice.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  135. Pikachus doesn’t care about any thing or anyone, that’s why I dubbed him David spade.

    Yes turn things over to the democrats what could go wrong Kampuchea the fall of Iran, the rise of Al queda and the Islamic state, the curtailment of personal self defense, of free speech, of private property, the equipping of north koreas nuclear arsenal in embryo just throw that dice and it comes up snakeeyes, well we can try again, you think so?

    narciso (d1f714)

  136. The republican party was tarnished when old man boooosh said no new taxes. Biggest mistake R.R. made was appointing an X CIA director v.p.

    mg (8cbc69)

  137. What wee that groucho Marx line, next time we’ll probably be facing Venezuela as a nuclear power,

    narciso (d1f714)

  138. That is actually true. New World slaves at first were mostly white, enslaved for their debts or for crimes or just enslaved*, but it was found that they did not last long working all day under the hot sun, so the plantation owners, from Maryland to Brazil, switched to black slaves from Africa who could withstand the climate better.

    *Robert Louis Stevenson’s “Kidnapped” books were based on the true story of a young British nobleman who was sold to slavery in Virginia by his conniving uncle.

    nk (dbc370) — 1/12/2018 @ 4:35 pm

    African slaves cost more as well. Probably because Jeff Bezos wasn’t around with free 2 day shipping.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  139. Well that was part of it, but they also signed on to more stupid rules.

    narciso (d1f714)

  140. Speaking of p*ssing away, maybe we should be restricting UK immigration

    The Outdoor Urinals of Soho, London

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  141. you could probably count on two hands congressmen you can trust, whose yours?

    Maxine Waters, by gerrymander. She isn’t to be trusted? I’m pretty sure I know her vote on everything. Completely trustworthy.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  142. “So, if Texas closed its borders to people from sh1th0les like [wherever you live], saying “we have enough of their kind”, you’d have no problem with it?”

    TX actually welcomes people looking to escape high tax, high corruption, conservative-hating sh**holes like CA and IL. Usually because they are looking for work, lower taxes, a fair shake and not to be penalized if they vote conservative or don’t happen to work for the government.

    harkin (8256c3)

  143. The republican party was tarnished when old man boooosh said no new taxes

    Yeah like that compares to Trump’s logorrheic stupidity.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  144. TX actually welcomes people looking to escape high tax,

    They why do you support Trump’s statement about not wanting people fleeing foreign sh1th0les?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  145. #54, urban, in SW Florida big mangoes are under a buck, roma tomatoes are $1.29/lb, and limes are .25 each. Not bad at all.

    ropelight (93ed62) — 1/12/2018 @ 6:23 pm

    What do you think of FL Avocados? I’ve managed to buy some a few times at a local hipster market. They seem to be a lot bigger than CA Avocados. They get close to Papaya range.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  146. New World slaves at first were mostly IRISH
    FIFY

    People who were sold into slavery to pay their sharecropping debt after a drought or some such.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  147. I’m pretty sure I know her vote on everything. Completely trustworthy.

    “By contacting then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to request a meeting, allegedly for a group of minority-owned banks, but then arranging for only one bank – OneUnited, in which she had a financial interest – to attend, Rep. Waters violated House conflict of interest rules,” said CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan.

    Around the same time Rep. Waters asked the Treasury Department to hold the initial meeting, Rep. Waters spoke to Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) about OneUnited, telling him that her husband previously had served on the board. Rep. Frank advised her to stay out of matters related to the bank. Nevertheless, Rep. Waters’ chief of staff and grandson, Mikael Moore, continued to actively assist OneUnited representatives in their quest to receive bailout funds, and worked to craft legislation authorizing Treasury to grant OneUnited’s request.

    https://www.citizensforethics.org/press-release/maxine-waters-named-most-corrupt-member-of-congress/

    That’s quite a coup to be even more trustworthy than Barney Frank

    harkin (8256c3)

  148. Its a gift for her, she also seeded her constituency like a malign Jane appleseed, with the paranoia last seen in snowfall, a resiatance star,
    Btim a singularity

    narciso (d1f714)

  149. “…….bigger than CA Avocados.”

    Find some See Canyon avocados. I grew up surrounded by avocado groves but I’ve never seen ones as big as those monsters outside Central America. Saw them when I was in college.

    harkin (8256c3)

  150. Biggest mistake R.R. made was appointing an X CIA director v.p.

    Why? At that point in time the last VP who had succeeded by ballot was Van Buren in 1836.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  151. I trust her to be a complete jucking ferk.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  152. In the end, they didn’t want a deal at all, like the aliens in falling sky and battle Los Angeles they wanted total capitulation

    narciso (d1f714)

  153. Yes they meannour best interests at heart, but you know this knee jerk reflexivity to the latest squirrel:
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/pelosis-bitterness-shines-through-slamming-wage-raises-and-white-guys-negotiating-immigration/

    narciso (d1f714)

  154. Maxine Waters, by gerrymander. She isn’t to be trusted? I’m pretty sure I know her vote on everything. Completely trustworthy.

    Kevin M (752a26) — 1/12/2018 @ 7:00 pm

    Doesn’t Aunti Esther live in Beverly Hills?

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  155. Maxine does not live in her district, however she is not required to do so. Just has to live in the state (Art I, Section 2, clause 2). BTW, her mansion is in Hancock Park, which is the Old Money neighborhood of Los Angeles.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  156. Find some See Canyon avocados. I grew up surrounded by avocado groves but I’ve never seen ones as big as those monsters outside Central America. Saw them when I was in college.

    harkin (8256c3) — 1/12/2018 @ 7:11 pm

    Wouldn’t you know it? These Kroger avocados are from Mexico! Small, but their calves are the size of cantaloupes. I think their idea of “organic” may be much like Mr nk’s impression of the Koreas, complete with night soil.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  157. DOJ IG today began turning over to House and Senate Judiciary Comms 1.2 million pages of records it has accumulated in its investigation of FBI and DOJ conduct with regard to Clinton Email investigation.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  158. After old man boosh we unfortunately had to deal with the soldier killing kid boooosh.

    mg (8cbc69)

  159. Maxine does not live in her district, however she is not required to do so. Just has to live in the state (Art I, Section 2, clause 2). BTW, her mansion is in Hancock Park, which is the Old Money neighborhood of Los Angeles.

    Kevin M (752a26) — 1/12/2018 @ 7:31 pm

    You were just talking about reforms. Making reps live in their districts would be near the top of my list. Although they could still buy a DR beach house like Charlie Rangell.

    Pinandpuller (3e96cd)

  160. That would be a reasonable reform.

    narciso (d1f714)

  161. Ropelight, to me it seems a large increase over same month last year. last night at Lewis Fresh Market, Waukegan IL…Mangoes $2 each up from $1 . Roma Tomatoes 2.99/lb up from .99. Limes 35 cents each, frm 10 cents. And this place is usually the cheaper place vs. Jewel (=WinnDixie) or Marianos (=Publix).

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  162. Maxine could shoot a child in broad daylight on Normandy at 110th and not lose a vote from her base.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  163. buh bye gowdy – between him and issa they sure botched the benghazi hearings. Those dead soldiers deserved better committee members than those two hacks.

    mg (8cbc69)

  164. You were just talking about reforms.

    They’d just buy a pretend studio apartment and get their mail there.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  165. And year they tell us there is neglible inflation, and the moon is made of green cheese

    narciso (d1f714)

  166. If a studio apartment for 10 months in a well academic performing suburban public H.S. is cheaper than a nearby Catholic H.S.’ tuition it is not uncommon for a football players family to “move” there, perhaps subletting. Maine South HS in Park
    Ridge IL encourages this sort of thing.

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  167. If Nunez gets a sniffle can he release the documents?

    mg (8cbc69)

  168. happyfeet, have you read the book seen the movie, Mother Night? It’s about an American spy in Germany in WWII who becomes so good in his disguise as a Nazi propagandist that nobody believes that he is not one.

    nk (dbc370)

  169. Maxine could shoot a child in broad daylight on Normandy at 110th and not lose a vote from her base.

    You’re only saying that because she’s black.

    nk (dbc370)

  170. 175 urban:

    Here in NJ the best football players are driven daily to/from the Catholic high schools and if the family cannot afford the tuition – which is often – the “recruits” receive a needs-based scholarship. The best Catholic high school teams play each other, but also have to play some of their games against out-of-state powerhouses to a) get nationally ranked and b) have enough games to play since the public schools just cannot compete with them. For example, Don Bosco Prep in Ramsey (Jesuit) has in the past played teams from California, Florida, Ohio, South Carolina, Louisiana, etc. For all intents and purposes these Catholic schools are farm teams for Div I football teams with coaches having relationships with specific college teams.

    The Catholic schools here are renowned for their academic rigor and development of boys into men, going beyond academics and athletics. They have also resisted leftist infiltration.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  171. I remember ten film version:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Night_(film)

    narciso (d1f714)

  172. Lenny: you said full, if necessary, scholarship. Here in the Chicago and Joliet archdiocese, the aid is capped at 30 %..though the state for this tax year is providing some sort of tax scholarship. Recently the coach of local powerhouse Mount Carmel was let go, with one of the rumored reasons being losing transfers to FL’s IMG Academy (well heeled tennis or golf prodigies pay rhe cost of 3 football players) or to public charter school Phillips located in and drawing from a grittier part of the South Side.

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  173. Interesting. The increasing popularity of soccer and lacrosse have decimated football teams at some of the more highly rated (wrt to academics) public schools here – less chance of CTE and better odds of a scholarship to a “good” school. My niece got a full ride to Vanderbilt in lacrosse back in 2000. Although there’s a small chance of an athletic career, the degree from Vandy opens tons of doors as you would expect. It was just a matter of time that high school sports would present larger stakes re: college admissions.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  174. And the Catholic schools here absolutely draw from the grittier parts of NJ — Paterson, Newark, and Jersey City here in the northern part.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  175. it’s calling African countries “sh*tholes.”

    Again, Trump is saying what almost everyone else thinks but is too polite or too scared to say. I say it’s great. Yes, he looks like a boor but his enemies look like blithering idiot Church ladies, and political correctness looks like drivel.

    We were talking about the Winter Olympics today and decided Trump should invite Rocket Man to a big WWE throwdown there. I’d pay for that! Think of the ratings!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  176. I’ll look for it Mr. Nk

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  177. Instead of saying “sh!tholes”, he could have said: “You want President sign DREAM? You put in amendment, effective immediately for all visa not yet issued, that only spouse and minor children of adult U.S. citizen or adult permanent resident now eligible for family unity immigrant/permanent resident visa. Nobody else. Not mommy, not daddy, not brother, not sister, not grandma, not grandpa, not aunt, not uncle. Okay? You do that and President sign and give you souvenir pen too.”

    But there’s no way he could have formulated such a thought. “Sh!tholes” is the limit of his intellectual capacity and his understanding of the issue.

    nk (dbc370)

  178. It was only an allusion, happyfeet.

    nk (dbc370)

  179. They just introduced the official hat for the upcoming Sh**hole March:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RefDemo/status/951824021095632897/photo/1

    harkin (8256c3)

  180. Lawyers as politicians makes me sick. I believe Sessions, Nunez and the republicans involved in all these investigations are slow walking this so every big wig gets their story straight. Nunez has the documents, their ought to be a law that says he needs to release these to the American people immediately . These republicans are in on the sting. No one but small frye will be jailed. Two sets of laws should bring the American people to Washington D.C. with Tar and feathers. Nunez is from Cantafordya, need I say more.

    mg (8cbc69)

  181. ok good good i’ll just read the wiki page

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  182. Ah yes , durwood wee the recipient of the memo re miguel estrada

    narciso (d1f714)

  183. The Bible clearly says, in first Timothy, chapter 5, verse eight,” Pastor Mark Burns began, but was immediately cut off by Urban Radio’s White House correspondent April Ryan.

    “I’ve grown up in church so let’s be clear!” Ryan responded, which drew a “praise God” from Burns.

    “A man who does not take care of his own home, his own home, their own people, is worse than an infidel,” the televangelist said, paraphrasing the Bible verse. “We have somehow forgotten that in America.”

    At the mention of scripture, however, Ryan and Burns began talking over one another, the former mentioning the famous “love thy neighbor as thyself” verse.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/cnn-panel-devolves-into-screaming-match-when-televangelist-offers-biblical-defense-for-trumps-shthole-comment/

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  184. 1) Trump has almost no ideological convictions and is motivated almost entirely by the classic narcissistic value equation, i.e. how much praise or scorn he gets on a second-to-second basis, from whom, and why. Had he not run as a Republican – and in particular won on a platform scripted by a nationalist true believer like Bannon – he might very well by now have been pushed into a completely different kind of presidency. Trump wants so badly to be liked that, especially with the influence of Kushner and Ivanka, he might easily have allowed his White House to drift back toward his original politics, which (as New Yorkers and furious conservatives alike will clearly remember) was once squarely in the Bob Rubin rich-guy sort-of Democrat mold.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-tldr-guide-to-michael-wolffs-fire-and-fury-w515359

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  185. For decades now, Reagan loyalists have resisted the notion that the former president was symptomatic while he was president. (I posited that he was in my book, and heard later that the Reagan people were not happy about it.) So, when the current president* broached the subject, Craig Shirley, a career Reagan hagiographer, and John Heubusch, the president of the Ronald Reagan Foundation, leaped into print at CNN.com to argue that Reagan had not shown any symptoms until the official announcement of his diagnosis in 1994. Their evidence is, well, a bit selective.

    They begin by asserting that Reagan had won election twice despite constant references to his advanced age. In terms of evidence, this is almost the same as the current president*’s assertions that his victory in the Electoral College is proof of the popularity of his policies.

    Actually, ever since Ronald Reagan’s first substantial run for president in 1976 at the age of 65, those opposed to Reagan labeled him as “old” and proclaimed his age a huge disadvantage compared to his opponents. Of course, they’d say the same thing four years later when he won the White House and four years beyond that when he won a second term — both by landslides, in both the popular vote and the Electoral College. The vote margins were massive, among the biggest in American history, and no one ever claimed that he was an illegitimate president.
    All of which is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. They then spend a couple of paragraphs ridiculing Bill O’Reilly’s Killing Reagan, in which Reagan’s slide is exacerbated by the attempt on his life in 1981. Beyond this, however, they cite the opinions of people like Ed Meese, and vague references to the opinions of “others who worked closely with the president.” They also assert that there are no medical records that mention Reagan’s having been symptomatic in the White House. In 2011, Ron Reagan, Jr. wrote a memoir in which he speculated that the process of the disease may have begun while his father was president. At the time, this was widely taken as a son’s assertion that his father had been symptomatic.

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a15087997/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-in-office/

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  186. And that is taibbis gripe, which his James Franco sojourning in Russia, should have been grounds for rolling moss to discard him. Janet reitman can just as easily take dictation.

    narciso (d1f714)

  187. Chain Lightning Migration by Deely Stan

    Gates open, a million grand
    Get with it, don’t take a stand
    Don’t bother to think it thru
    No question the numbers grew
    Be part of the brotherhood
    it’s chain migration
    It ain’t so good

    Hush brother, don’t take that dare
    Act natural like you don’t care
    Turn slowly don’t give no sass
    Your country pushed up your ass
    We’re standing where great men stood
    It’s chain migration
    It ain’t so good

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  188. “‘Sh**hole’ is a perfectly good rude, slangy word. It has a great history, and it’s vivid and effective. It is not a racial term, and shame on the people who are making it racist. I wonder if these people ever think of the pain and damage they are causing by proclaiming and insisting upon a connection between dark skin and excrement. They’re revealing what’s in their head, and they don’t mind burdening dark-skinned people with the knowledge that they are being thought about like that.” – Ann Althouse

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/01/a-wretched-place-a-dirty-or-dilapidated.html?m=1

    harkin (8256c3)

  189. Frankly, I didn’t make Outhouses assumption that turds reflect skin color.

    Quite revealing..

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)

  190. I saw that Althouse take earlier, Harkin… yep, she’s a cool, calm, collected adult.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  191. I still say Derpin invented the whole thing and assigned blackness to it to trick the CBC into insisting the bill cover Caribs and Africans. Thus he can blame them for the bills failure when he visits the barrio. The CBC bloc does have a bit of wind in sails due to the Doug Jones upset though.

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  192. You really believe that? After the stable genius’s previous performance where he agreed to give Feinstein “a clean DACA bill” before McCarthy rescued us? He has no clue, he does not know what he is doing minute to minute, he is a complete and utter loss. He is Woodrow Wilson in 1920.

    nk (dbc370)

  193. The best scenario, if that is the case and I think it is, is he runs and wins para chingar, but the other than “Jr” kids get him to resign in Feb. Of ’21.

    urbanleftbehind (1d0126)

  194. 200 – probably best if you don’t post after ingesting detergent pods.

    harkin (8256c3)

  195. After the stable genius’s previous performance where he agreed to give Feinstein “a clean DACA bill” before McCarthy rescued us?

    President Trump never agreed to a clean DACA bill

    he thought the stupid cow had misspoke and used DACA as a synechdoche for “all the stuff what’s in the package we’re gonna do before we move on to comnprehensive”

    remember everyone is calling this “the DACA bill” even though it has other stuff

    this is obvious because he opened the meeting saying all the stuff that *had* to be in the DACA bill

    and he’s been very vocal since then about how the bill dirty slutboy Kevin McCarthy brought him was a farce that didn’t meet the minimum requirements

    if you wanna worry about people not being vigilant enough about the DACA you should look at perverted Mitt Romney’s bought-and-paid-for heinie-licker Paul Ryan and his gang

    be cool stay in school

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  196. *comprehensive* i mean

    oh jeez

    the n on this keyboard is snugged right up on the m

    why would they do that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  197. Test

    Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (e96021)


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