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12/5/2017

In Defense of Sam Seder’s Tweet About the Rape of His Daughter and Roman Polanski

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 10:00 am

If you’re the type of person who uses the word “cuck” unironically, then to you, MSNBC’s Sam Seder is the cuckiest cuck that ever cucked — because Seder hates the alt right. (Full disclosure: so do I.) Seder has consistently pushed a crusade against that gang of conspiracy nuts, including Mike “Pizzagate” Cernovich. If you know anything about alt-righters, their God is the God of Retaliation. Nothing else in life really matters to them besides getting back at their perceived enemies. So Cernovich took a break from his conspiracy theories about shampoo to dig up this old tweet from Seder:

And managed to get Seder fired:

MSNBC has decided not to renew its contract with contributor Sam Seder after an old tweet emerged in which Seder joked about Roman Polanski raping his daughter, TheWrap has learned.

Seder’s contract ends in February and he has no scheduled appearances between now and then, a spokesperson for MSNBC told TheWrap.

. . . .

A person familiar with the situation said the decision to sever ties with Seder was directly related to the Polanski matter.

“Internally there was disgust over the tweet,” said the individual.

The tweet was first brought to wide attention last month by the pro-Trump journalist and activist Mike Cernovich.

Idiots. Dupes.

To me, Seder’s tweet was a good and brave tweet. Was it shocking? You bet. But so is what Roman Polanski did to Samantha Geimer when she was 13 years old. Seder’s tweet is obvious satire, designed to mock the people in Hollywood who defended Polanski. The tweet is basically a Twitter version of what Ace of Spades wrote about Polanski in 2009:

And he drugged her, and even as she resisted, he raped her. And then, figuring, I guess, “Ah, what the hell, gone this far, might as well run the table,” he sodomized her.

13.

But he made The Pianist. So — no biggie.

You’d think someone who is actually disgusted by Polanski’s actions, and by the excuses Polanski’s supporters made, would applaud Seder’s decision to take on those supporters. But of course, Cernovich cares more about his feuds than about what Polanski did to a 13-year-old. Cernovich saw an opportunity to slam Seder and he took it. Cernovich pretended that the tweet supported Polanski, and rallied his mindless band of pearl-clutching fake opponents of political correctness, who predictably flew into an entirely phony outrage about the tweet. These Fierce Defenders of Free Speech took a tweet that attacked Polanski’s defenders, and screamed: Sam Seder defends Polankski! Sam Seder thinks rape is funny! Sam Seder thinks rapes of little girls are funny, including the rape of his own daughter! Blah blah outrage blah blah offended blah blah.

Seder explained last week what should have been obvious: it was a slam on Hollywood elites who defended the rape of a child because the rapist made some movies people like:

“This smear involves the willful misinterpretation of a tweet that I posted in 2009,” said Seder, who said Cernovich and his allies were deliberately misrepresenting him to silence his criticism of Roy Moore and President Trump. “I will never be ashamed of criticizing those who would excuse the predation of women or girls. And I certainly won’t be quiet about Roy Moore or a conservative movement that which would defend his actions so they could get his vote in the Senate.”

Seder said the tweet was satirical and was intended to show his disgust with liberals at the time who were attempting to apologize for Polanksi’s past behavior.

So now Mike Cernovich has managed to get the scalp of a guy who actually fought the left’s apologetics on Polanski.

Congratulations, I guess. The Phony Outrage Mob has claimed another victim.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

152 Responses to “In Defense of Sam Seder’s Tweet About the Rape of His Daughter and Roman Polanski”

  1. “The Phony Outrage Mob” ? As if there were but a single phony outrage mob. Ah, but we live in an era dominated by nothing but phony outrage mobs. Its the World Cup of Phony Outrage Mobs (the soccer analogy especially apt as its the only sport where the most important talent in a sport is the dramatic fall).

    SPQR (240837)

  2. twitter’s bad news

    it’s no good and everyone what is all up in the twitter needs to knock it off, and pronto

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. We are in the midst of a cultural civil war. And there is always collateral damage in a war.

    MacGruber (15cfac)

  4. What is it with libs and virgin sacrifice?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  5. OK. Not exactly virgins.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  6. While I certainly agree with the OP, I have little sympathy for people who choose to live out their lives and thinking on social media. It’s the environment you chose, and no amount of emojis will ever replace actual conversation where sarcasm and parody are expressed with your face nd voice.

    Shipwreckedcrew (52fb4a)

  7. Patrick,
    Wu’s Dictum;
    Stupidity can be a capital crime

    Corwin (eedbab)

  8. If my daughter gets put in a camp I hope it’s a work camp and not a death camp.

    Pinandpuller (c15a71)

  9. She’s a good worker and so far she hasn’t died a day in her life.

    I hope this doesn’t cut into my AFLAC VO income.

    Pinandpuller (c15a71)

  10. @7

    Wu Lads

    Pinandpuller (c15a71)

  11. Is this fellow part of air America that financed with defrauding charities, children’s charities7

    narciso (d1f714)

  12. Mike Cernovich is what Judas would have been if he had been born a whiny little b!tch of a Croatian sissy-boy, but the consequences to Mr. Seder are entirely because of the sea he chose to swim in. What was he doing working for people like MSNBC in the first place?

    nk (dbc370)

  13. Seder hates the alt right. (Full disclosure: so do I.)

    I would hazard to guess Seder’s idea of the “Alt-Right” is a lot more encompassing of anything conservative than that of our host.

    harkin (e12c28)

  14. Msnbc is the hatchery of air America: maddow Schultz papantonio the financial yutz name escapesm

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. “nothing else in life really matters to them besides getting back at their perceived enemies.”
    Great description of the Democrat party too! (ie vast right wing conspiracy)

    jb (a3c1bc)

  16. From a den of scum and villainy

    https://www.newsbusters.org/journalists/sam-seder

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. This appears to be 109% MSNBC’s fault for firing the guy.

    Why is it the alt right guy? He did not employ Seder.

    If we relied on the news industry for “information”, nobody to the right of Che would have a job today.

    BfC (e98263)

  18. Well, you see this is one of the problems with going back years, evem to Governor Jerry Brown’s first term.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  19. This is just going back a few years

    https://majority.fm/tag/tea-party/

    No i give that rat, no benefit of the doubt,

    narciso (d1f714)

  20. You know NBC fired Billy Bush a year ago just for listening to Donald Trump 11 years before.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  21. They treat all these things like they were said yesterday. But they weren’t said yesterday. They were just called to their attention the day before, and not accidently, but vwry malicusly.

    This is called “loshon harah”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashon_hara

    (This is a little bit of a modern usage – Twentieth century really use of the term, and is a misunderstanding of the way it was used before. This has become a big principle with some people and it’s actually used in a way that goes too far.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  22. If Cernovich himself (in the link) says “By the media’s standards, Sam Seder has Tweeted out something far worse than even my most sarcastic or satirical Tweet” and calls it “a disgusting joke”, how is he misrepresenting Seder’s tweet?

    Is it because of the headline? I thought writers never wrote headlines.

    Sounds to me more like MSNBC was looking for a reason to get rid of him. They always end up eating their own.

    harkin (e12c28)

  23. “MSNBC Contributor Sam Seder Endorses Polanki’s Sex Crimes in Now Deleted Tweet”

    You thought bloggers never wrote headlines? Who do you think wrote the headline to this post? Richard Simmons? OJ Simpson? The Rock?

    Nope, just me.

    Check his social media around that time. He was misrepresenting this right and left.

    Yes, MSNBC was definitely wrong to fire him.

    But it amuses me to watch the No Political Correctness crowd fly into paroxysms of How Dare He Say That as they purposefully misinterpret the tweet of a very harsh critic of Polanski supporters.

    Patterico (1a3643)

  24. Did Richard Simmons or Juice tell you to ignore the questions about his quotes which compares it to his own sarcasm and states it’s a disgusting joke?

    harkin (e12c28)

  25. I took it that everyone understood the true meaning of the tweet, and that he was attacking Polanski’s apologists. But since they were Polanski’s apologists they chose to read it differently, then fired him to make their lie good.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  26. His mistake was that it was far too subtle for Trump’s brain trust.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  27. You know who else had the initials SS?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  28. I would buy a ticket to watch Polanski’s first day in GenPop.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  29. Sylvester Stallone?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  30. Sam Spade?
    Susan Storm?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  31. “I took it that everyone understood the true meaning of the tweet, and that he was attacking Polanski’s apologists. But since they were Polanski’s apologists they chose to read it differently, then fired him to make their lie good.”

    I saw it that way too but you almost never know with the left. There were writers who said feminists should get on their knees and fellate Bubba after Monicagate and even ones who said Mary Jo Kopechne would have considered Ted Kennedy’s career worth the submersion.

    harkin (e12c28)

  32. Whatabout Chappaquiddick?

    But Gorsuch..

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  33. Well, you see this is one of the problems with going back years, evem to Governor Jerry Brown’s first term.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 12/5/2017 @ 12:24 pm

    That dude was smashing Linda Ronstadt so who are we to judge?

    Linda Ronstadt (1976)Silver Threads and Golden Needles-Offenbach, Germany mitt Willy und Waylon und zee boysHowdy Y’all

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  34. Sylvester Stallone?

    Kevin M (752a26) — 12/5/2017 @ 1:31 pm
    Yes, but not on his uniforms.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  35. @2. Twitter is surely flagging, Mr Feet. Semaphore! Captain’s orders w/a side of chocolate pie and topped w/two scoops of Dolly Madison vanilla.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  36. To ABB

    Yes. she clearly Blue Bayou.

    Me gotta go

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  37. Do you ever think there will ever be a Nobel Prize for Twitter-ture?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  38. Twat’s not likely.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  39. ‘This is called “loshon harah” ‘

    I call it horsesh*t

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  40. Actually Seder has a long history of using his infant daughter in sexualized jokes. He told an appalled Dave Letterman when his daughter was four that she had “been knocked up by Alex Rodriguez. ” Last week, when his Polanski rape “joke” came out, he refused to respond and ignored the pleas of a Polanski victim to apologize. There was nada from him.

    https://twitter.com/Marianne_M_B/status/935661823520468992

    Taylor (73be2e)

  41. “Long, Long Time”…

    That’s the Linda R. tune that charts with me…

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  42. How about this:

    Nancy Pelosi likes her CA Republicans like she likes her hash browns:

    Scattered, Smothered, and Covered.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  43. Whether its intended to be funny/satirical and whether or not you find it funny or satirical are two different things.

    “Comedy is not pretty” — Steve Martin

    SPQR (240837)

  44. It puts the loshon in the basket, rings ABB’s doorbell and runs.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  45. I know he’s retired and all but anyone else notice how David Letterman seems to be keeping himself under the radar during these days of teh New French Revolution? His sh*t (and apologies) just wouldn’ fly these days.

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  46. Give evil a good home is what I’m saying.

    Pinandpuller (c15a71)

  47. Now word comes that another Mueller deputy on record praising Sally Yates for her courageous stand against the Trump Travel Ban.

    It will be a long time before Mueller’s FBI regains its honor and reputation.

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  48. What there is of the “alt right”… numbers so low it’s akin to trotting out the number of David Duke supporters… is laughable. I reserve my contempt for the alt left, with activities and numbers that should worry sentient folks.

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  49. What? Me worry?

    -Colonels Journal

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  50. “Steve Martin is not pretty”-Comedy

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  51. My for real moral quandary is my daughter wants to give up welding to be a school teacher so should I give her Flashdance for Christmas so she will pursue a more productive life as a dancer?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  52. I know he’s retired and all but anyone else notice how David Letterman seems to be keeping himself under the radar during these days of teh New French Revolution? His sh*t (and apologies) just wouldn’ fly these days.

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/5/2017 @ 2:05 pm

    He ran thru interns like Sherman ran thru GA and he has the creepy beard to prove it. He’s like homeless Charles Darwin.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  53. Letterman, the liberal misogynist, not only said Palin dresses like “a slutty flight attendant,” but attacked her 14 year old daughter, saying the Alaska Governor’s daughter was “knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez” at a New York Yankee baseball game.
    Only a democrat or never Palin republican could spew that much hate.

    mg (60b0f7)

  54. space jam 2

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  55. Letterman has just been spending more time at home feeding the girl he keeps in his pit.

    “It rubs the lotion on it’s hands or else it gets the hose again”

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  56. Outrageously outrageous

    But maybe they wanted to let him go and this was the catalyst.

    Sunny (4652fc)

  57. “It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again”

    —- Rear Admiral BeenBurned

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  58. knocked-up by Alex Rodriguez” at a New York Yankee baseball game.

    mostly true as FC might say.

    Family fistfight at local saloon..same smell.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  59. Thank you for the correction, Colonel.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  60. I don’t know or care who any of these people are, and Twitter is the medium of the devil. If you use Twitter, you’re begging to be misunderstood and misrepresented. Just don’t.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  61. What’s funny, Hoagie, is that I hadn’t even seen your post until now!

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  62. Twitter is for twatwaffles.

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  63. “Ya… ya want some gum, little girl?”

    —- David Letterman

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  64. Hey! I just saw noel hanging on an easel playing Pictionary in a Geico commercial!

    Good job, dude!

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  65. “A READER WHO IS A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND JUDGE EMAILS:

    Did the prosecution tell Flynn’s lawyer that their main witness against him was removed for bias? Since Strzok led the interview and his testimony would be needed to establish untruthfulness, he is a critical witness not just a prosecutor. If not disclosed, would this not be a Giglio violation? This is the kind of misconduct that can get a case dismissed and a lawyer disbarred. It is a Constitutional violation. This has bothered me since I heard about it.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282605/

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  66. I hear retweeting your bosses tweets is a sure way towards a promotion.
    Pathetic.

    mg (60b0f7)

  67. Who else has initials ABB?

    A Bottom B*tch.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  68. Now what kind of hairpin would choose a pinhead name like puller?

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  69. Lincoln’s Last Tweet:

    — ..- -.-. ….

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. “This statistic shows a timeline with the amount of monthly active Twitter users worldwide. As of the third quarter of 2017, the microblogging service averaged at 330 million monthly active users. At the beginning of 2016, Twitter had reached 310 MAU per quarter.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/282087/number-of-monthly-active-twitter-users/

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  71. I can see Hoagie smoking a stogie, astride the 50 cal.

    https://g.co/kgs/jxPNYE

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  72. There’s a dry reference well in ABB’s basement and I fell right in it!

    In U.S. v. Pipkins, the Eleventh Circuit described the bottom girl’s duties as “work[ing] the track in [her pimp’s] stead, running interference for and collecting money from the pimp’s other prostitutes, [and] look[ing] after the pimp’s affairs if the pimp was out of town, incarcerated, or otherwise unavailable”. Similarly, the Training Manual of the Hawaiian Prostitution Intervention Program explains that the bottom girl’s obligations may include handling finances, and training and recruiting other prostitutes.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  73. Now what kind of hairpin would choose a pinhead name like puller?

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/5/2017 @ 3:40 pm

    It’s a real job description as opposed to your dis-honorific Admiral, Admiral.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  74. Psst, Ben. You wanna start makin’ some real m*********** money ? Buy you a new lunchbox. Buy you a new coat . Ben you should be workin’.

    Pinandpuller (c15a71)

  75. “NOT-SO-INDEPENDENT COUNSEL: New Emails Show Special Counsel ‘Pit Bull’ Cheered Sally Yates For Blocking Trump Travel Ban.

    New documents obtained by government watchdog Judicial Watch show a top DOJ prosecutor, who is now working as a deputy on Special Counsel Bob Mueller’s investigation, cheered the decision by former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates to defy orders and refusal to enforce President Trump’s first travel ban in January. Yates was the acting attorney general at the time and was promptly fired for her defiance.

    Emails show Andrew Weissmann, who served as chief of the Justice Department’s Criminal Fraud Section under President Obama, loved Yates’ refusal to implement the ban.

    “I am so proud. And in awe. Thank you so much. All my deepest respects,” Weissmann wrote.

    The New York Times has described Weissmann as “Mueller’s Pitbull.”

    Nothing says “independent and professional” like fanboi squee at sticking it to the hated Trump. These people are embarrassing.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282603/

    Colonel Haiku (7f045b)

  76. Thank you, Ben!. I am a CCR fan.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  77. Since Strzok led the interview and his testimony would be needed to establish untruthfulness

    What a bunch of nonsense.

    Even putting aside the fact that having, and privately expressing, a political opinion violates no law, was he the only agent in the room?

    Trump has expressed negative opinions about Mueller, Comey, Sessions and many other officials, and unlike Strzok, has done so very publicly – does that disqualify him too?

    Or are people who dislike Trump the only ones who have to forfeit their individual rights in private conversations?

    Dave (445e97)

  78. I think Strzok is a scapegoat, there is whole chain of agents from midlevel managers who absolved red queen and went after manafort and flynn for misfiling paperwork

    narciso (d1f714)

  79. Boil it, stir it, spin it, any way you want to. Cernovich is nothing more than a snitch b!tch ass punk, since the tweet was not about him.

    Letterman? Steve Martin? Really?

    nk (dbc370)

  80. Well Steve martin. Had more than a modicum of talent, Letterman was a stupid humanity. Its not as stupid as say martin bashir remember that git

    So it looks like another promise re Jerusalem will be acted upon, so ragnarok

    narciso (d1f714)

  81. Man… Cali can suck, but sure glad I don’t live in New Brighton, Mn…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8PahVTNJg

    Leftwingers… when they’re not virtue signaling, or victory mincing, or some other narcissistic crap, they’re visibly shaking!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  82. Yeah. Can you imagine having to put up with Santa Monica AND snow?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  83. Thank you, Ben!. I am a CCR fan.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 12/5/2017 @ 4:36 pm

    Did you know John Fogerty got sued for plagiarizing that song?

    He wrote both songs BTW

    The Old Man Is Down the Road

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  84. Between Strzok and Weissmann, Comey leaking sensitive info ILLEGALLY to facilitate a Special Counsel, and the whole goddamned lot of them and their ongoing deception and inability to just come clean, I have to ask, who will hold these people accountable?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)


  85. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), the longest serving member of the House of Representatives and the subject of a flurry of sexual-misconduct allegations in the last few weeks, said he was “retiring today” during a radio interview Tuesday.

    “I’m in the process of putting my retirement plans together and I’ll have more of that very soon,” Conyers said in an interview with the station, Praise 102.7.

    No sooner had he announced plans to vacate his seat, however, than an intra-family feud erupted into public view over who would take it over.

    The embattled Michigan Democrat said on Tuesday that he wanted his son, John Conyers III, to replace him when he departs. But earlier in the morning, Conyers’ nephew, Ian Conyers, said that he would be seeking the seat.

    “I’m absolutely going to file for his seat, Ian Conyers, a state senator, told the New York Times. “The work of our congressional district, where I come out of, has to continue.”

    These leftists think they’re Lords. Sadly, the idiots in their districts will vote for them. Maybe even erect a statue!

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  86. Vantz can’t dance

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  87. Did you know that Record Companies have moral compasses that point straight to Hades? That’s the whole reason Prince changed his name for a minute there in the 90’s.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  88. Nobody has yet said

    Down goes Conyahs!!!! Ladies and gentleman, but mostly ladies, what an upset!!!!!

    I can’t remember a time I felt my own wife’s leg up in church.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  89. Ian Conyers, said that he would be seeking the seat.

    “I’m absolutely going to file for his seat, Ian Conyers, a state senator, told the New York Times. “The work of our congressional district, where I come out of, has to continue.”

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 12/5/2017 @ 5:5

    I-an Conyers is a vegetarian.

    Then I make the lamb!

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  90. Wonder if he moslem brotherhood connected like Andre Carson (in Detroit, that’s crazy talk)

    narciso (d1f714)

  91. To quote Denzel W. at various junctures in Training Day, mah n——:
    http://www.yahoo.com/news/vice-president-mike-pence-plotted-194254624.html

    urbanleftbehind (c54a05)

  92. Ian Conyers is, I think, a nephew. But Conyers wants his oldest son to succeed him/ Conyers called it a retirement. He had earlier wanted at least to serve out his term.

    Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9)

  93. His been in dc longer time than Detroit, since his bachelors and masters from Georgetown a job in ward 6, staff position with the mayor.

    narciso (d1f714)

  94. Wayne Brady makes Denzel Washington look like Malcom X.

    Sammy,

    That’s an oblique reference to My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

    If you like Nia Vardolis, Lucy and Ethel, and show tunes you might like Connie and Carla.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  95. Thank you, Ben!. I am a CCR fan.
    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 12/5/2017 @ 4:36 pm

    Big Wheel Keep on toining. Rolling on the river. Proud Mary.

    Never heard of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=eoIbTwJSRiY

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  96. I saw that story in a Alex cross story, jack and Jill, and I believe an early James patterson standalone black market

    narciso (d1f714)

  97. Sammy,

    Sorry, I was totally unclear. The “I make the lamb” is from MBFGW. The other quote is Negrodamus AKA Paul Mooney on Chappelle’s Show.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  98. I substituted Denzel for Bryant Gumbel. According to Adam Carolla that’s a blacksimile

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  99. You were entirely clear, sir.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1zYCYQu6w

    A break away song was performed because two ships meeting at sea was unlikely. And the ships’ band gathered on deck.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  100. Steve57

    “Mean” speed meaning “top” speed? 19.6 knots is pretty good, yes?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  101. Not anymore. But it once was.

    The only ship named after an Australian city.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Canberra

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  102. A break away song was performed because two ships meeting at sea was unlikely. And the ships’ band gathered on deck.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 7:10 pm

    Emily Dickenson might not agree but that’s a damn fine looking Frigate.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  103. USN ship.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  104. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Canberra_(L02)

    HMAS Canberra (L02) is the lead ship of the Canberra-class landing helicopter dock in service with the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). It is the current flagship of the RAN fleet. Construction of the ship started in Spain in 2008, with the hull launched by Navantia in 2011. The hull was then transported to Australia in late 2012 for completion by BAE Systems Australia. Canberra was commissioned on 28 November 2014.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  105. After I got out of the Navy I worked for British Aerospace.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  106. …but that’s a damn fine looking Frigate.
    Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 12/5/2017 @ 7:16 pm

    I couldn’t be prouder if she were mine.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  107. I missed your comment at babalu blog. Entirely my fault. Generally I don’t miss anti-commi blog posts.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  108. Narciso, I wasn’t aware Honduras was that close to being Venezuelized. What do the socialists/communists have against South America that attracts them to destroy country after country?

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  109. http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/fact-sheets/fs111.aspx

    The sinking of HMAS Sydney, November 1941 – Fact sheet 111
    The loss and the controversy

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  110. The only ship named after an Australian city.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Canberra

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 7:16 pm

    That’s really cool. Did you ever get a chance to check out the Russell Crowe Water Diviner movie? I really think you would like it.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  111. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8685795-cruiser

    Cruiser: The Life and Loss of HMAS Perth and Her Crew

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  112. The Perth was lost with the Houston.

    HMAS Perth and USS Houston – Heroes To The Last

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXEAorhMris

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  113. The military held the line in the 80s and 90s, but there was zelaya that Obama supported his rrstiration then there was castaway, that aggravated the lawlessness.

    http://navyhistory.org/2013/04/normans-corner-disappointing-captain-beach

    narciso (d1f714)

  114. Hoagie, it’s more the reverse: Latin Americans seem attracted to communism. I think part of it is historical: independence from Spain led to lots of political instability and a much greater divide between poor and rich than we here in the US are used to. I’ve never seen mudfloor cabins in the US, but I’ve seen them in Mexico and Colombia (the two Latin American countries I have been in). Chavez’s hero Bolivar was the first of many Great Leaders. (And you probably don’t need me to tell you what continent gave us the term “banana republic”.)

    kishnevi (abbfd8)

  115. Did you ever get a chance to check out the Russell Crowe Water Diviner movie?

    No, unless you mean master and commander.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  116. You know, if we have a war with Kim-makes-me-il, the IOC will be really p.o.’d. But cancelling the Olympics would let Putin save face….

    kishnevi (abbfd8)

  117. Yes Ivan drag, this is a surptise, also iron colossus from the x men. Cuba was a rare mark in their basket, because it was the most advanced and demographically stable regime. It tried to sow its seeds for for 30 years, but except for Nicaragua found few takers.

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEkYqL9n7vo

    Sun Kings

    I am, by the way, an honorary Hormel Hog. VAW-114

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  119. Hawg. Jeezus.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  120. Yes the Guatemalan insurgency would suggest otherwise, and did the Colombian one, but neither have been able to seize power, although Santos has been rbabling the latter.

    narciso (d1f714)

  121. In other news, Jeff Flake performs the yoga posture known as Givebirdwhilemooningonwayoutthedoor

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/938160754490052609

    kishnevi (abbfd8)

  122. Enabling, this is why fmr presidents uribe and pastrana, who couldn’t agree what type of pancake to have, brought their cobcns to trump

    Chavez bet was a member of red flag, the second generation insurgency after the mir, speaking of Mexico despite a generation of giving sanctuary to foreign gguerrillas. They crushed their brushfires with their airborne units some if which became the zetas.

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. No, unless you mean master and commander.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 7:56 pm

    No, but I did enjoy that one as well. Have you seen The Mutiny on the Bounty with Marlon Brando and Mel Gibson? There were some great parts in that movie. No small parts, no small actors that’s for sure.

    It reminds me of a scene in Nothing in Common between Jackie Gleason and Tom Hanks. Something to do with island girls. I will leave it at that.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  124. There Goes the Anchor Chain – VIDEO

    August 13, 2012 by Rob Almeida

    While lowering the anchor from USS Tarawa (LHA-1) in 2001, the ship’s anchor, plus 13 shots of chain were lost in a plume of rust and fury of sparks and noise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hUpkYNOtw

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  125. I’ll have to look for that.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  126. Hawg. Jeezus.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 8:09 pm

    Could you explain the difference between the green and brown mock turtlenecks? I hope it’s not a remnant from The Stanford Prison Experiment

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  127. A shot of anchor chain is 15 fathoms or, as I realize I speak a language no one else fathoms, pun intended, 90 feet.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  128. While lowering the anchor from USS Tarawa (LHA-1) in 2001, the ship’s anchor, plus 13 shots of chain were lost in a plume of rust and fury of sparks and noise.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 8:26 pm

    That looks like a safe job…before I saw the guy with ear pods I was ready to call Bob Corker…

    Georgia Satellites Battleship Chains

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  129. Brown shirts are airplane captains. Green shirts are catapult and arresting gear crewmen. Red shirts are ordnance men. I wore a white shirt, which is admin. But I didn’t really deserve it.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  130. You always find 13 shots of chain in the last place you put it.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  131. Cuba was a rare mark in their basket, because it was the most advanced and demographically stable regime.
    Cuba being the exception that probes the rule: it was under Spanish rule until 1898, the last of the Spanish colonies wuth Puerto Rico, and then under the thumb of the US… but even it suffered from Strongman Syndrome for much of the period before Castro.

    kishnevi (abbfd8)

  132. Yes machado who was real hardliner and barista who wasnt Bo matter what graham green tries to portray.
    But you had Perez jimenez ospina trujillo prado and a host of others and they didn’t turn communist.

    narciso (d1f714)

  133. You always find 13 shots of chain in the last place you put it.
    Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 12/5/2017 @ 8:39 pm

    That’s what my dominatrix said.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  134. Brown shirts are airplane captains. Green shirts are catapult and arresting gear crewmen. Red shirts are ordnance men. I wore a white shirt, which is admin. But I didn’t really deserve it.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 8:38 pm

    Red shirt usually means you are expendable on an away team unless you are Scotty. I believe he was a Lieutenant Commander

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  135. Like bit coin, but more pathetic:
    https://faustasblog.com/2017/12/venezuela-the-petro-the-new-virtual-currency/

    The far left candidate in France had a respectable showing, corbyn came within a razors edge. The podemos in Spain, supported by guess which faction, has had some success.

    narciso (d1f714)

  136. That’s what my dominatrix said.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 12/5/2017 @ 8:46 pm

    Those crazy Masonic vows say something like if you tell anybody what happens here we will stake you however many chains from High Tide. I made no vows so I’m probably safe.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  137. My dad was a surveyor for many years.

    I don’t know how it is in TX but your deed might read” From the 6″ Sweet Gum tree 6 chains E to the 8″ Poplar tree.” Something like that.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  138. 128, my 13 year old adolescent self was easily impressed with Hanks’ pulling down that stewardess from the flight and having her get up from the bed (upon Hanks getting the fateful call from Gleason) in opening 2 scenes of that flick.

    urbanleftbehind (c54a05)

  139. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282443/

    A MASSIVE shift:

    1971: 80% of kids age 7 and 8 walked to school

    1990: 9%

    Mike Cernovich claims that the politicians who are and were supported almost exclusively by hollywood and media moguls who famously do not scruple from coersion in their own proclivities, were running a brothel of kidnapped children for the pleasure of politically connected pedophiles, given cover by controling the levers of publicity.

    There seems to be a pattern of behavior. An action and reaction.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  140. There seems to be a pattern of behavior. An action and reaction.
    papertiger (c8116c) — 12/6/2017 @ 2:32 am

    Hey papertiger!

    Pinandpuller (84b38e)

  141. i wonder what the chick what was passed over for corrupt Elaine’s nepotism job for lack of making sex on sleazy nasty Mitch McConnell thinks

    Elaine Chao is the ultimate washington power bimbo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  142. Chao is the scion of a shipping company magnate, she could have gotten far even without riding shell.

    urbanleftbehind (c54a05)

  143. From the New York Times today:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/05/us/harvey-weinstein-complicity.html

    Mr. Weinstein held off press scrutiny with a mix of threats and enticements, drawing reporters close with the lure of access to stars, directors and celebrity-packed parties. Some journalists negotiated book and movie deals with him even as they were assigned to cover him. The studio chief once paid a gossip writer to collect juicy celebrity tidbits that Mr. Weinstein could use to barter if other reporters stumbled onto an affair he was trying to keep quiet. He was so close to David J. Pecker, the chief executive of American Media Inc., which owns The Enquirer, that he was known in the tabloid industry as an untouchable “F.O.P.,” or “friend of Pecker.” That status was shared by a chosen few, including President Trump…

    …He had particularly strong ties to the tabloid giant American Media — owner of The Enquirer, Globe, OK!, Radar Online and others — with which he teamed up to pursue several media and production deals….

    …Mr. Weinstein had struck a business deal earlier that year with American Media, working with Dylan Howard, The Enquirer’s editor and the company’s chief content officer, on a talk show. American Media was known to sometimes help out allies in trouble with a strategy known in tabloid newsrooms as b> “catch and kill” — acquiring exclusive rights to damaging stories and then not publishing them.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  144. catch and kill” — acquiring exclusive rights to damaging stories and then not publishing them.

    This can aklso be done by other news organziations without paying for the story..

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

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