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11/27/2017

Trump’s Plan For Supporting Roy Moore

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:00 am

Donald Trump has a problem. There’s a special election in Alabama. The Republican would preserve a slim 52-vote majority for him in the Senate. But that Republican has taken a hit in most polls due to recently revealed scandals. What to do?

At The Daily Beast, Lachlan Markay has a piece that suggests the answer: Trump’s Plan For Alabama: Back Roy Moore Without Mentioning His Name:

Trump captured that dynamic in a series of Sunday morning tweets that effectively endorsed Moore’s candidacy without mentioning his name.

“I endorsed [incumbent Sen.] Luther Strange in the Alabama Primary. He shot way up in the polls but it wasn’t enough,” Trump wrongly claimed. “Can’t let Schumer/Pelosi win this race. Liberal Jones would be BAD!” he added, referring to Doug Jones, the Democratic candidate in the race.

Backing Moore without mentioning him has become the Trump White House’s default position when pressed on the allegations against the former state Supreme Court justice. After declaring in the wake of the allegations against Moore “that there is no Senate seat worth more than a child,” White House counselor Kellyanne Conway suddenly shifted her tone last week, focusing solely on opposition to Jones and avoiding any affirmative defense of his opponent.

“We want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through,” Conway told Fox and Friends last week. Jones “will be a vote against tax cuts. He is weak on crime. Weak on borders. He is strong on raising your taxes. He is terrible for property owners,” she insisted. Asked whether that amounted to a Moore endorsement, Conway would only say: “I’m telling you that we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through.”

As an aside: the tax bill is garbage. It does nothing to cut the deficit at a time of a $20 trillion debt. But Conway’s quotes seem in line with the Trump strategy of backing Moore mainly by concentrating on how bad the Democrat would be.

Frankly, it’s his best option and the one that worked for him. There’s no real need to rally the Moore faithful; they’re with him no matter what. For everybody else, the optimal stategy is clear: otherize someone who is very easy to otherize, and remove the focus from the flawed person carrying the Republican banner.

Did I say flawed person? Why yes, I did. Let me back that up, and start by not mentioning the seduction of teenagers.

I have laid out the case against Moore before, here. I quoted a 2004 post from BeldarBlog, which quoted Bill Pryor’s speech on the need to protect the rule of law by removing Roy Moore from the Alabama Supreme Court:

The stakes here are high, because this case raises a fundamental question. What does it mean to have a government of laws and not of men? …. Because Chief Justice Roy Moore, despite his special responsibility as the highest judicial officer of our state, placed himself above the law, by refusing to abide by a final injunction entered against him, and by urging the public through the news media to support him, and because he is totally unrepentant, this court regrettably must remove Roy Moore from the office of Chief Justice of Alabama. The rule of law upon which our freedom depends, whether a judge, a police officer, or a citizen, demands no less.

My previous post further noted:

Most recently, Moore suggested that 9/11 might have been a punishment for the United States rejecting God. He has also said “maybe Putin is right” given Putin’s rejection of gay marriage — adding this about Putin: “Maybe he’s more akin to me than I know.”

All that is before you get to the fact that Moore has been credibly accused of being a creeper who regularly sought out young teenagers for sex — some as young as 14. Will Saletan argues: “The idea that all these girls, their mothers, their sisters, and their friends began coordinating a massive lie decades ago—and somehow conspired to keep it quiet through Moore’s many previous political campaigns, saving it for a special Senate election in 2017—is completely preposterous.” Despite fever swampers raising allegations of bribery first advanced by discredited Twitter accounts, there has never been a convincing explanation as to how so many people got together so long ago to defeat a years-into-the-future Senate bid.

And on the other hand you have Doug Jones, who loves him some federal funding for abortion — and seems to believe in his heart of hearts that late-term abortion is A-OK, even though he has backtracked to the standard “keep the laws as they are” position.

In other words, it’s the guy with the repulsively flawed character and lack of respect for the rule of law who will probably mostly vote the way we like, against the candidate with the repulsive policy views who will vote with the other side time and time again.

Sound familiar?

I don’t envy the people of the state of Alabama their choice, just like I didn’t envy the choice faced by the American people in 2016. I remain confident as ever that Alabama will make a choice similar to the one they made then, and won’t look back.

And somehow, with the hyper-partisanship on display from Democrats supporting Al Franken and John Conyers, capped by Nancy Pelosi’s virtuoso partisan demonstration over the weekend, I think Alabamans be able to cast that vote without too much shame. The thing about hyper-partisanship is that when you engage in it, the other side feels content to do a lot of things that might normally shame them. And that’s a relief for Republicans, because unlike Democrats — who have seated Killin’ Ted Kennedy and a guy who was impeached for bribery, all without a second thought — Republicans are still sometimes capable of feeling shame for backing a moral reprobate. Donald Trump is helping them get over it, but the pangs are still there for some. So the spectacle of hyper-partisanship from the Democrats is a soothing balm for the conscience, and should propel Moore to what I continue to expect will be a victory on December 12.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

214 Responses to “Trump’s Plan For Supporting Roy Moore”

  1. Just imagine. Statute of limitations rules out the Slammer but what about his adjudication over the decades? How many received corrupt judgements or were falsely imprisoned.

    Reviews will be traumatic and expensive.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  2. Then Trump will have a big slice if chokealot cake.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  3. Rereading Beldar’s post from 13 years ago was enlightening. Once upon a time, we did care about the Rule of Law.

    DRJ (15874d)

  4. Good news, Trump is now telling people that the Access Hollywood tape is not authentic.

    So he’s been cleared of that.

    Dave (445e97)

  5. Roy Beans ejection from Alabama Court should have required a judicial review.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  6. It’s not a bad strategy. And cleaner than what the Democrats have been doing to Moore. Have we been seeing the Democrats run a positive campaign? Talking about ideas and ideals and how Doug Jones is the best man for the job? No, they’ve been throwing dirt on Moore. At least Trump is talking about Jones’s positions.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. As an aside: the tax bill is garbage. It does nothing to cut the deficit at a time of a $20 trillion debt. But Conway’s quotes seem in line with the Trump strategy of backing Moore mainly by concentrating on how bad the Democrat would be.

    The argument for the tax bill is that the deep cut in corporate taxes would raise growth from 1.5% to over 3%, and that THIS would be what closes the budget gap. The problem with it, of course, is that it does nothing good for the middle class and will raise taxes noticeably on many, without much real reform.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  8. And Trump is lying his ass off, as usual, at least in regard to Jones’ position on gun rights.

    Todd asked Jones a series of questions in the 7-minute long interview, televised nationally. On gun rights , Jones said he is “a Second Amendment guy.”

    “We’ve got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another,” Jones said. “I want to enforce the laws that we have right now. The biggest issue, I think, that’s facing the Second Amendment right now is that we need to make sure we shore up the National Crime Information System, the NCIC system for background checks, to both keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but at the same time, cut down on error so that law-abiding citizens can get those.”

    Jones said he loves to hunt and has a case full of his own guns, but wants to make sure regulations are “smart.”

    Dave (445e97)

  9. The ideal outcome:

    Moore is elected, and in a deal to clear Congress of a number of Democrat abusers, Moore is thrown to the wolves and Luther Strange is appointed to fill out the balance of the term.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  10. I notice that Tim Scott has taken Patterico’s position:

    Scott told ABC on Sunday that none of Moore’s denials have changed his mind.

    “It is pretty clear to me that the best thing that Roy Moore could do for the country is to move on,” the senator said. “The reality of it is that the allegations are still very strong and credible, and the denial has been weak. It has gotten a little stronger, but it’s still fairly weak.”

    “So, in my opinion, and in the opinion of many Republicans and conservatives in the senate, it is time for us to turn the page, because it is not about partisan politics. It’s not about electing Republicans versus Democrats, this is about the character of our country,” he added. “I want to be on the side of right when the history writes this story.”

    https://pjmedia.com/election/scott-moore-want-side-right-history-writes-story/

    Kevin M (752a26)

  11. “We’ve got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another,”

    Gee, and I’ll bet he wants more. Those free speech people need to be stopped when they start with the hurtful speech, or political lies, or all the other wrong stuff people can say.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  12. Jones said he loves to hunt and has a case full of his own guns, but wants to make sure regulations are “smart.”

    The 2nd Amendment has never been about hunting. That’s a line for stupid people.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  13. Trump has a lot of nerve accusing anyone else of being “WEAK on crime” after his spectacular failure to keep his own campaign promise has cost tens of thousands of innocent Americans their lives.

    “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored.”
    – Donald Trump, Republican National Convention

    Trump lied. People died.

    Dave (445e97)

  14. I know the Daily Beast always has my best interests at heart. They are right up there with CNN.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  15. Yes look how respectful they ere to andrew, okeefe it al

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. We don’t need a pelosi puppet in Alabama that’s for sure

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  17. If Schumer/Pelosi puppets are bad, why did Trump donate thousands upon thousands of dollars to Schumer and Pelosi?

    Dave (445e97)

  18. Because he’s vile enuf… and phony enuf … and doggonit, most people really can’t stand him…

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/franken-just-very-very-sorry.php

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  19. “I think Alabamans be able …”?

    Tillman (a95660)

  20. Litigate his ass..

    Shortly before 9:00pm tonight, Acting Director English filed suit in the U.S. District Court in Washington, DC. The suit, against President Donald Trump and OMB Director Mick Mulvaney, seeks a temporary restraining order on an emergency basis and a declaration recognizing her as the rightful Acting Director of the Bureau.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  21. And Trump is lying his ass off, as usual, at least in regard to Jones’ position on gun rights.

    Todd asked Jones a series of questions in the 7-minute long interview, televised nationally. On gun rights , Jones said he is “a Second Amendment guy.”

    “We’ve got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another,” Jones said. “I want to enforce the laws that we have right now. The biggest issue, I think, that’s facing the Second Amendment right now is that we need to make sure we shore up the National Crime Information System, the NCIC system for background checks, to both keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but at the same time, cut down on error so that law-abiding citizens can get those.”

    Jones said he loves to hunt and has a case full of his own guns, but wants to make sure regulations are “smart.”

    Dave (445e97) — 11/27/2017 @ 10:07 am

    Dave pushing the dyed in the wool leftist as being honest on gun control.

    HAHAHAHA.

    Hey Dave, I grew up in Brooklyn and have a bridge to sell ya.

    It’s also like Dave is just like Jones when it comes to politics.

    NJRob (b00189)

  22. Dave often puts teh “con” in conservative, Rob.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  23. 9. that sounds Tony the Tiger grrrrrreeeaeaatttt, until some hussy accidentally refers to Sen. Strange as Loofah instead of Luther.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  24. Is it the same reporter p.o.a. that Nunez and Villar passed around?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  25. One of the next members of President Donald Trump’s administration to enter the Russia investigation spotlight finds himself in a particularly awkward spot: He’s the top lawyer at the White House.

    Don McGahn is expected to be interviewed in the coming weeks in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, along with communications director Hope Hicks and Josh Raffel, who handles press-related inquiries for White House senior adviser Jared Kushner.
    The 49-year-old former Federal Election commissioner acted as a conduit of information to Trump before the President decided to fire National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James Comey. McGahn also served as the Trump presidential campaign’s chief counsel while he was still a partner in private practice at the law firm Jones Day.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/27/politics/don-mcgahn-russia-investigation/

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  26. Inch by inch. Yard by yard…

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  27. Patterico? Please let us know as soon as Moore transfers $27K (or ANY AMOUNT) of taxpayers’ money into the account of a woman to buy her silence, like Conyers has.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  28. Where can I buy me a late term assault rifle to protect the life of a father?

    Pinandpuller (80bd35)

  29. “We’ve learned so much about what women face in the last few weeks, and you liberal men should take this as an opportunity to change – specifically, out of your flapping bathrobes and into some Dockers. Groping, flashing, molesting shrubs – believe it or not, some women consider these things to be wrong. Crazy? Sure, but for now it’s no more monkey business as usual. As a noted Democrat, you need to maintain your political viability, and you can exploit the respect and concern for women you’ve always pretended to have to help you dodge responsibility for whatever you’ve already done!

    Hey, nobody gets into liberal politics because they actually believe this stuff! Being a Democrat leader has always been a traditional path to making special new friends for guys who can’t cut it on looks and personality. Face it – no one ever said, “You know who’s hot? Al Franken. I bet he can bench his body weight.” If Harvey Weinstein had managed a Safeway, America’s starlets and ferns would be substantially less traumatized.”

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/11/27/dating-tips-for-prominent-democrats-n2414342

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  30. Keep. Hope. Alive. , Rear Admiral beenburned

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  31. The last time Mueller followed up the wring lead, the bureau had to shell out 5 million to Steven hatfill.

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. @34 Colonel Haiku

    Well Conyers likes to wear PJ’s to work, Moore robes. Like Aurthur Dent.

    Pinandpuller (80bd35)

  33. @33

    He’s doing Niagra Falls? I figured him for The Aristocrats!

    Pinandpuller (80bd35)

  34. The pornocrats and no trumpers make for an interesting couple.

    mg (60b0f7)

  35. Fish lips Franken is now apologizing to women he may have groped, but can’t remember.
    rufkm

    mg (60b0f7)

  36. hyper-entitled US military trash like Lee Busby isn’t the answer either

    the answer is Mr. Roy Moore and that’s the truth I promise

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  37. Seeing as he is a aide to general Kelly, there may be morecthan meets tube eye

    narciso (d1f714)

  38. 40 It’s only just begun.

    The War on men, that is..perhaps deservedly so. There is a lot of stored energy in women that’s only partly mitigated by our generosity in allowing them to own property and vote.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  39. Kurt S. exhorts lowT lefties to try to live up to the ideals they purport to hold dear.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  40. Trump should say that the only way to get to the bottom of this – who’s telling the truth and weho is not – is to elect Roy Moore.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  41. Ah, the sanctity of marriage loophole..

    In every state, the legal status of free women depended upon marital status. Unmarried women, including widows, were called “femes soles,” or “women alone.” They had the legal right to live where they pleased and to support themselves in any occupation that did not require a license or a college degree restricted to males. Single women could enter into contracts, buy and sell real estate, or accumulate personal property, which was called personalty. It consisted of everything that could be moved—cash, stocks and bonds, livestock, and, in the South, slaves. So long as they remained unmarried, women could sue and be sued, write wills, serve as guardians, and act as executors of estates. These rights were a continuation of the colonial legal tradition. But the revolutionary emphasis on equality brought some important changes in women’s inheritance rights. State lawmakers everywhere abolished primogeniture and the tradition of double shares of a parent’s estate, inheritance customs that favored the eldest son. Instead, equal inheritance for all children became the rule—a big gain for daughters.

    Marriage changed women’s legal status dramatically. When women married, as the vast majority did, they still had legal rights but no longer had autonomy. Instead, they found themselves in positions of almost total dependency on their husbands which the law called coverture. As the English jurist William Blackstone famously put it in his Commentaries on English Law (1765–1769):

    https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/womens-history/essays/legal-status-women-1776–1830

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  42. In 1864 the then-Trumpers would find only women having the vote was more odious than Negroes having the vote.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  43. I don’t agree with half of the reasons Donald Trump wants a Republican in there, but I certainly would like to see a Senate investigation.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  44. Patterico? Please let us know as soon as Moore transfers $27K (or ANY AMOUNT) of taxpayers’ money into the account of a woman to buy her silence, like Conyers has.

    Colonel Haiku (647002) — 11/27/2017 @ 11:20 am

    I’m sorry I didn’t seen this sooner.

    Well said

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  45. Rear Admiral ben burnee bro and his demophiliac brethren are all about namblaizing todays young boys.

    mg (60b0f7)

  46. Dave is the guy who writes all those “As a life-long Republican…” letters to the NY Times.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  47. In 1864 the then-Trumpers would find only women having the vote was more odious than Negroes having the vote.

    Democrats were vehemently opposed to both changes. Look it up.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  48. The Klan was the military arm of the Democrat Party during Reconstruction, hanging blacks and Republicans with equal fervor.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  49. Why do you guys keep making this argument as if it’s remotely clever or relevant. Klukkers are republicans now

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  50. In 1920, the first election after women got the vote, the GOP candidate won with a never-again matched 25% margin, carrying every state outside the old Confederacy. Women voted heavily Republican as the GOP had been the advocate of the amendment, with the Democrats mostly opposed.

    In 1924, the GOP won again, even after the Harding scandals, again restricting the Democrats to the South. The Democrat candidate that yer, John W Davis later came to “fame” as being the losing attorney in Brown vs Board of Education, where he argued for keeping segregated schools.

    It is kind of amazing the ignorance that folks on the left have about who was for what, and when.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  51. Why do you guys keep making this argument as if it’s remotely clever or relevant. Klukkers are republicans now

    Because your dickhead friend Ben thinks that the Republicans were for slavery.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  52. Republicans: “Democrats are the party of the Confederacy.”

    Also Republicans: “My Heritage!”

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  53. Klukkers are republicans now

    No, they aren’t. They have no diea what the GOP stands for. They are for themselves and anything that will get their dead cause some attention. They are the fringe’s fringe. IF they could get some action clamping to the Greens, they’d go there.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  54. It’s possible that Ben is saying that people who are Republicans now would have been Democrats 150 years ago.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  55. Cthulhu–

    Do you do anything but smear?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  56. It’s possible that Ben is saying that flying saucers are real. But I don’t think so.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  57. @65 I’m sorry your feelings were hurt

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  58. @59. That’s true Davethulhu. All Republicans aren’t racist. But all racists are Republicans.

    Tillman (a95660)

  59. You racists can run from your political id but You can’t hide from your Whig corpse.

    Republicans indeed. Lol!

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  60. It’s a scientific fact that miserly, constricted myopia leads to conservative thinking and repressed sexuality results in perverse habits. Conservatism is the Gateway drug to sexual abuse.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  61. Let me repeat an old saying relative to “conservatives” demanding Alabamans vote against Roy Moore:

    “Never dare a Southerner to do something you don’t want him to do.”

    I notice Patterico referred to the enthusiastic support Democrats extended to Ted Kennedy despite the Chappaquiddick affair. Most people have no idea how bad his actions were. It was far worse than is generally known.

    DN (4c7af4)

  62. Never dare a Southerner to do something you don’t want him to do.”

    Inbreeding of the rockheads..

    Fixed

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  63. “Make no mistake about it: Nancy Pelosi [yesterday] morning just gave Republican voters permission to vote for Roy Moore. She revealed that in the end, power is all that matters, not principle. Why, exactly, are Alabama Republicans supposed to stand on principle and vote for a member of Nancy Pelosi’s party, or withhold their votes from the morally compromised Republican, when the House Democratic leader is unwilling to take a stand against one of her own, despite his having transferred $27,000 of taxpayer money into the bank account of a woman he wanted to silence and send away?”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/morality-will-to-power-pelosi/

    Since Conyers’ transgressions are much more recent and suggest fraud and abuse while in Congress, I’m assuming the number of Conyers posts here will soon outnumber the Moore posts…..

    Maybe better be safe and ask Trump to say something positive about Conyers.

    harkin (a9a478)

  64. Congressional Budget Office is back to harsh the holiday mellow of Speaker Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from the state of Wisconsin, and his fellow travelers in both houses of the national legislature. Against the shortest possible odds, as it wends its way through a process controlled almost entirely by Republicans, the proposed tax plan is getting worse, not better, and harsher on the middle and lower classes, not more equitable, and more profitable for the people who buy Ryan his $300-a-bottle vino, not less.

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13943293/republican-tax-plan-cbo-hurt-poor/

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  65. Cob, snorfle.

    So people on the south are patriotic respectful of law enforcement and supportive of traditional values , who are they going to support on balance.

    narciso (d1f714)

  66. So people on the south are patriotic respectful of law enforcement and supportive of traditional values , who are they going to support on balance.

    De-frocked jurists. Naturally.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  67. Rear Admiral Burned is still feeding his own mother cat food, the sorry sod.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  68. Gq went completely sjw this new issue, with only the gal gadot profile able to salvage it.

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. The namblaizing rear admiral ben burnee bro and his demophylic brethren know all about inbreeding.

    mg (60b0f7)

  70. 56… Dave is fond of putting the “con” in conservative. Along with squid🦑 Cthulhu and teh Read Admiral, the Three Stooges got nothing on ‘em.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  71. Dave often puts teh “con” in conservative, Rob.

    Colonel Haiku (647002) — 11/27/2017 @ 11:09 am

    Just having my fun Colonel. Everyone is aware of his shtick.

    NJRob (2ad508)

  72. 25… Faucahontas gonna be heap big pissed off, the pathetic Marxist remnant of soon to be nuked Dodd-Fwank was her baby.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  73. This man is worth going to work for, Col.
    I’ll give him major time and effort. Taking out lieawatha would be a great scalping.
    https://diehlforsenate.com

    mg (60b0f7)

  74. Huckabeast vomits another hairball.

    Zeleny asked, “Why did he feel the need to say something that is offensive to many people while honoring the Navajo code talkers, these genuine American heroes?”

    Sanders replied, “I think what most people find offensive is Senator Warren lying about her heritage to advance her career.”

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  75. With Trump the question should always be..Why ask why?

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  76. Back when the Democrats could show they could muster true leadership… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luTzmLiVC4I

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  77. Many Native Americans found Warren’s false claims of Cherokee heritage to be demeaning and highly offensive. All in the name of advancing her career.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  78. You’re a sensitive and compassionate guy kernel popcorn.

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  79. Colonel “heap big pissed off” Haiku is an expert on demeaning Native Americans.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  80. Just because Democrats and reporters want American Indians to be offended that Trump called Warren out as a fake Indian, does not mean that American Indians will be offended that Trump called Warren out as a fake Indian, and so what if they are?

    nk (dbc370)

  81. Btw you ha e two red state links,

    narciso (d1f714)

  82. That was only demeaning to Faucahontas, Squid 🦑 Cthulhu

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  83. “I take thousands and thousands of pictures, sometimes in crowded and chaotic situations. I can’t truthfully say my hand has not been on many asses.”

    —- Senator Al Franken (D)

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  84. 84… yes, mg, a worthy endeavor

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  85. @88 Colonel Haiku

    When I was a little kid out at the family ranch during branding my dad had to teach me about telling a Navajo Joke.

    I got bucked off on my head during an impromptu rodeo in the middle of the corral. All the Navajos around me were laughing like crazy and I was mad and humiliated. My dad said that in the Navajo tradition the more hurt a person is the more they laugh. I guess at my young age I was given allowances as a prodigy.

    It’s also a cowboy/vaquero/blue collar tradition.

    Pinandpuller (8f47ed)

  86. My dad said that in the Navajo tradition the more hurt a person is the more they laugh

    Only at white men…

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  87. Burnie boy shares his racism with Patterico’s site.

    NJRob (2ad508)

  88. Only at white men…
    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/27/2017 @ 3:59 pm

    So you and Steve-O are headliners down Shiprock way?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  89. I have some Blackfoot in me so I totally understand

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  90. NIC (nimrods in charge)

    The looming vacuum in the Republican agenda underscores how the relative chaos and disorganization of the Trump White House can affect policymaking across Washington. Former administration officials say the situation is virtually unprecedented, and that it is threatening the president’s ability to score legislative victories for the GOP heading into next year’s midterm elections. It may also cost Trump personally once the 2020 reelection campaign begins in earnest about a year from now.

    “There is very little in the pipeline, and no obvious next item on the agenda after tax reform except maybe a return to health care,” said Yuval Levin, the editor of National Affairs, a leading conservative policy journal, who works closely with Republicans on Capitol Hill. “Combine that with a president who doesn’t think in terms of policy, and you’ve got no clear next step.”

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/27/trump-agenda-tax-reform-260405

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  91. ABB and DC…what’s your excuse?

    For more than three centuries, a plague of unshakable lethargy blanketed the American South.

    It began with “ground itch,” a prickly tingling in the tender webs between the toes, which was soon followed by a dry cough. Weeks later, victims succumbed to an insatiable exhaustion and an impenetrable haziness of the mind that some called stupidity. Adults neglected their fields and children grew pale and listless. Victims developed grossly distended bellies and “angel wings”—emaciated shoulder blades accentuated by hunching. All gazed out dully from sunken sockets with a telltale “fish-eye” stare.

    The culprit behind “the germ of laziness,” as the South’s affliction was sometimes called, was Necator americanus—the American murderer. Better known today as the hookworm, millions of those bloodsucking parasites lived, fed, multiplied, and died within the guts of up to 40% of populations stretching from southeastern Texas to West Virginia. Hookworms stymied development throughout the region and bred stereotypes about lazy, moronic Southerners.

    Hookworm disease’s most significant impact, however, was not in in the death toll but in years of healthy life lost. Children were especially affected by hookworms, which would sometimes prevent girls from ever menstruating or boys from hitting their growth spurt. Because iron is critical for brain function, hookworm infection could also lead to irreversible cognitive and intellectual defects. A 1926 study of Alabama school children found that the greater the number of worms that students harbored, the lower their IQ. As those authors wrote: “One has the impression that the [hookworm-infected] child is living in another, entirely separate world, and is only remotely in contact with the everyday world about him.”

    “Neglected tropical diseases like hookworm not only occur in settings of poverty, but they also cause poverty,” says Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. “Hookworms were definitely a major factor in holding back progress in the American South.”

    NOVA

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  92. hookworm sucks ass but not as bad as pelosi puppet

    pelosi puppet is no good

    this is why sleazy pedophile marine trash like lee busby should stop trying to elect pelosi puppets all up in it

    i abjure hookworm and pelosi puppets and lee busby

    Roy Moore is the best American for the job of doing senator in Alabama

    he will do the good policies and President Trump will be so happy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  93. The Washington Post busts Project Veritas for hiring a fake victim to dupe them into publishing a completely false story on Moore.

    Dave (445e97)

  94. Like the Russian hacking the power grid, you mean,

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. 104… that is horrible, PandP. I was not aware of that.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  96. American soldiers are being punished for blowing the whistle on the systematic rape and enslavement of young boys at the hands of brutal Afghan Muslim military officials.

    Honorable men in uniform risked their careers and lives to stop the abuse. Yet, the White House — which was busy tweeting about its new feminism-pandering “It’s On Us” campaign against an alleged college-rape crisis based on debunked statistics — is AWOL on the actual pedophilia epidemic known as bacha bazi.

    On Thursday, Obama administration flacks went out of their way to downplay Afghan child rape as “abhorrent,” but “fundamentally” a local “law-enforcement matter.”

    NY POST

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  97. george w. bush sent thousands of tatters to their deaths in afghanistan for to preserve their beautiful culture

    it cost a pretty penny too i hear

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. “I have some Blackfoot in me so I totally understand”

    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/27/2017 @ 4:39 pm

    Absolutely no interest in your love life, Rear Admiral BeenBurned.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  99. So P&P, you think our military should be the world’s policemen?

    Dave (445e97)

  100. No that was Obama, in large part, of course this accursed land figures in Holmes tales,,(Dr. Watson got his limp there) as well as in this authors repertoire:
    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm

    The problem was a tomahawk missile or three wouldn’t settle the problem.

    narciso (d1f714)

  101. maybe we can start with our joke military keeping the boy soldiers from growing boobies and chopping off their peckers and work our way up to “world’s policemen” from there

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  102. “If only the media and their Democrat party were as angry at Elizabeth Warren’s racist appropriation of indigenous American culture for personal gain as they are at Trump for mentioning it” – Dana Loesch

    harkin (a9a478)

  103. Patterico:

    I think Alabamans be able to cast that vote without too much shame.

    Casting a vote for Moore is pretty much the definition of shameless. So, sure.

    Newman (822e93)

  104. 111- Col.
    I was choking with laughter, now i am in tears about to be on the floor…

    mg (60b0f7)

  105. Yes he could have convicted the wrong person and let the actual bomber roam free, that’s the definition of shameless

    narciso (d1f714)

  106. Mr M wrote:

    As an aside: the tax bill is garbage. It does nothing to cut the deficit at a time of a $20 trillion debt. But Conway’s quotes seem in line with the Trump strategy of backing Moore mainly by concentrating on how bad the Democrat would be.

    The argument for the tax bill is that the deep cut in corporate taxes would raise growth from 1.5% to over 3%, and that THIS would be what closes the budget gap. The problem with it, of course, is that it does nothing good for the middle class and will raise taxes noticeably on many, without much real reform.

    I have been arguing for a while now that economic ‘stimulus,’ which is the rationale behind the claim that the reduction in corporate taxes would increase growth, is useless and has been useless for a while now.

    Keynesian economic theory holds that governments should use deficit spending to stimulate the economy during recessions. Trouble is that the other half of Keynesian theory is that governments should balance their budgets and bring down their debt during good times, and that we haven’t done. We have been ‘stimulating’ the economy all the time, and stimulus is the (not so) new normal. This has essentially inoculated the economy to stimulus programs to ease recessions.

    There is no particular evidence that the corporate tax changes would add new growth. After all, the first duty of a corporation is to make a profit for its shareholders; why wouldn’t a reduction in corporate taxes simply be used to increase dividends?

    Eventually, competition should force corporations to lower prices, as some will attempt to increase their market share, but there is no guarantee that prices would be lowered to the same extent that corporate taxes decreased. And corporations are full of young MBAs who have been taught the very basic premise that price is always a greater contributor to profit than volume.

    I have never been a fan of the ‘projections’ of economists; it’s like leaving weather forecasting to Punxsutawney Phil. They get things wrong at least as often as they guess right.

    The economist Dana (ecab7a)

  107. Its as yuval levin isn’t entirely up to speed:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/11/27/acting-cfpb-director-mick-mulvaney-holds-brilliant-press-conference-video/#more-142624

    Some agencies can be subject to attrition,

    narciso (d1f714)

  108. I’d put some ice on that, Rear admiral ben burnee bro

    mg (60b0f7)

  109. Mr M wrote:

    The ideal outcome:

    Moore is elected, and in a deal to clear Congress of a number of Democrat abusers, Moore is thrown to the wolves and Luther Strange is appointed to fill out the balance of the term.

    State law may require a special election to fill the balance of the term at least by the date of the next scheduled election; that particular Senate seat is up for normal election in 2020.

    While I have no particular objection to reappointing Mr Strange, he seems a poor choice, in that the voters have already rejected him once.

    The Dana who has never been to Alabama (ecab7a)

  110. we know for a fact that if you take money from corporations and give it to the government they’ll create useless prosperity-destroying jokes like the feckless US military and the fascist job-killing EPA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  111. Well the former is a constitional responsibility, the latter is a hindrance that Nixon foisted on us, 25 demerits.

    narciso (d1f714)

  112. they’re not doing very good at living up to their responsibility

    west point lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  113. @104. ?? We know yours, PP; “Moore’s” the pity:

    You may have much in common w/our Captain and his AG:

    “Dementia symptoms vary depending on the cause, but common signs and symptoms include:

    Cognitive changes

    Memory loss, which is usually noticed by a spouse or someone else [XXXX Pussy Galore- Bond girl, beauty pagaent or ‘Access Hollywood’ tape?]
    Difficulty communicating or finding words [XXXX ‘covfefe’]
    Difficulty reasoning or problem-solving [XXXX ‘Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.’]
    Difficulty handling complex tasks [XXXX ‘I don’t use email’.]
    Difficulty with planning and organizing [XXXX ‘build the wall!’]
    Difficulty with coordination and motor functions [Let’s take the escalator, Melania.]
    Confusion and disorientation [XXXX the campaign ended a year ago; you won, Captain.]
    Psychological changes [XXXX ‘some very fine people’ among Charlottesville Nazis.]

    Personality changes

    Depression [XXXX ‘That White House is a real dump.’]
    Anxiety [XXXX ‘Russia! Russia! Russia!’]
    Paranoia [XXXX ‘Russia! Russia! Russia!’]
    Agitation [XXXX ‘Russia! Russia! Russia!]
    Inappropriate behavior [XXXX ‘I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter perhaps I’d be dating her.’]
    Hallucinations [XXXX Won popular vote if millions of illegals had not voted; crowd sizes;’fake news.’]”

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dementia/symptoms-causes/syc-20352013

    “I don’t recall.” — Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, AG of the USA, former GOP senator from Alabama

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  114. Hey, Dave… former Inspector General McCullough… the “watchdog” over the intelligence community – an Obama appointee – says he was threatened with the loss of his job should Felonia Von Pantload, aka Hillary Clinton, have won the election. Also that the information contained in the 22 highly classified emails was info that was damaging, i.e., put lives in danger among other things… to the national security of the USA. Does that bother you… just curious.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  115. Rear Admiral Been Burned wrote:

    In 1864 the then-Trumpers would find only women having the vote was more odious than Negroes having the vote.

    Back when the franchise was restricted to white male property owners, we got presidents like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and Andrew Jackson. Since women and blacks gained the vote, we have had the spectacle of presidents like Jimmy Carter and Barack Hussein Obama.

    Clearly, the wisdom of the Framers has been proven correct.

    The historian Dana (ecab7a)

  116. Ballast though mccullough really was going to get traction with that, silly rabbit, only sloppy foreign registration and a yen for Turkish cinema count.

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. The Colonel non-Haikued:

    “I take thousands and thousands of pictures, sometimes in crowded and chaotic situations. I can’t truthfully say my hand has not been on many asses.”

    —- Senator Al Franken (D)

    Whenever he touched himself, his hand was on an ass.

    The snarky Dana (ecab7a)

  118. Mr burn wrote:

    I have some Blackfoot in me so I totally understand

    Having a bunch of blackheads does not make you a Blackfoot.

    The very snarky Dana (ecab7a)

  119. 131… true that, Snarky Dana!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  120. I have some Blackfoot in me so I totally understand
    Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/27/2017 @ 4:39 pm

    Are you monitoring your blood sugar carefully?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  121. Hey, Dave… former Inspector General McCullough… the “watchdog” over the intelligence community – an Obama appointee – says he was threatened with the loss of his job should Felonia Von Pantload, aka Hillary Clinton, have won the election.

    I thought you were a firm believer in the president’s authority to hire and fire employees of the executive branch at will, for any reason, or for no reason? Like, say, FBI directors who won’t make inconvenient investigations of the president, his family and his lackeys go away…

    Also that the information contained in the 22 highly classified emails was info that was damaging, i.e., put lives in danger among other things… to the national security of the USA.

    You are being dishonest. He confirmed that there were highly classified emails. If you said “potentially damaging”, you would be telling the truth. What he actually said was:

    “There was a very good reason to withhold those emails … there would have been harm to national security.” McCullough went further, telling Fox News that “sources and methods, lives and operations” could be put at risk.

    Emphasis mine. Note he was talking about why the classified emails were not released to the public.

    I don’t believe there is any evidence that the classified emails on Clinton’s server ever fell into unfriendly hands, or that any damage was done to US interests as result of her violation of the law. Of course, it is impossible to exclude that possibility.

    Does that bother you… just curious.

    I would have liked to see Clinton sent to jail for violating the law, yes.

    Why hasn’t Trump done it, as he promised to do hundreds, if not thousands, of times?

    Why is Trump protecting his dear old friend “Crooked Hillary” to avoid “hurting her”?

    Does that bother you… just curious.

    Dave (445e97)

  122. Watching a very good movie… Wind River

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  123. Mommy, is it true we have Blackfoot kin?

    Yes Ben. Your great uncle Jedediah was in the Donner Party.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  124. They were in an insecure server that means everyone from the svr to Chinese intelligence could see them.

    narciso (d1f714)

  125. You won’t be able to hide, Rear Admiral ben burnee bro with that blackfoot in ya.

    mg (60b0f7)

  126. Gorgeous, Pinandpuller.

    mg (60b0f7)

  127. Wanna bet he’ll start saying his other half is Jewish, Goldstein to be exact. Kaus is probably walking back and forth like a typewriter with the Gutierrez withdrawal.

    urbanleftbehind (fc08fe)

  128. They were in an insecure server that means everyone from the svr to Chinese intelligence could see them.

    What difference – at this point – does it make?

    She broke the law regardless of whether anyone else saw the emails, and she should be in jail.

    Fortunately for her, Trump publicly announced (after the election, of course) that he would shield her from prosecution because she’s a friend of his.

    That obstruction of justice, as far as I’m concerned, should be the first Article of Impeachment.

    Dave (445e97)

  129. 127.

    Difficulty communicating or finding words [XXXX ‘covfefe’]

    There are examples but covfefe isn;t one of them. That most logically was Trump giving up a fight with his iPhone. He maybe fell asleep.

    Sammy Finkelman (9668e6)

  130. So P&P, you think our military should be the world’s policemen?
    Dave (445e97) — 11/27/2017 @ 5:27 pm

    Not particularly. However, if they are there and they see actual abuse taking place, absent 40 year old accusations, yeah. Bust some heads.

    So what are you saying, Dave? They should allow abuse in their presence?

    If you witnessed Al, Roy or Saddiq playing grab a$$ I imagine you would at least say something. Most of us would. Or do you prefer to buy Gloria Allred a plane ticket?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  131. “If only the media and their Democrat party were as angry at Elizabeth Warren’s racist appropriation of indigenous American culture for personal gain as they are at Trump for mentioning it” – Dana Loesch
    harkin (a9a478) — 11/27/2017 @ 5:31 pm

    It was a feather in her cap.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  132. Watching a very good movie… Wind River

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/27/2017 @ 6:32 pm

    Not a fan of the ending, though it is Hollywood so I shouldn’t have been surprised.

    NJRob (2ad508)

  133. 139. narciso (d1f714) — 11/27/2017 @ 6:37 pm

    They were in an insecure server that means everyone from the svr to Chinese intelligence could see them.

    I don’t think that’s true. There was actually no more secure e-mail account in the history of e-mail and nobody successfully broke in.

    It was secure not only against hackers, but against subpoenas, prosecutors, presidential inquiry commissions, Congressional committees, and inspector generals – in fact the State Departtment didn’t even have an Inspector general during all the period of time that Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, which was longer I think than any Cabinet Department had gone without an inspector general since they started having Inspector generals in the second half of the Carter Administration.

    There was no lost password reset. The password was probably not even known to Hillary Clinton, but was remembered only by a computer. It was almost impervious to a dictionary attack because it had no weak passwords. A phishing attack would not be plausible – only a few people had her email address. It was logged onto via an encrypted Blackberry. The server itself was guarded by the Secret Service.
    Fially, if anyone started to download material, that would be noticed pretty quickly by the SySOP in Chappaqua – or was it Harlem? And there wasn’t even thruput to steal much very fast.

    Sammy Finkelman (9668e6)

  134. Hey, PandP… I remember visiting my aunt, uncle and cousins in Lander, Wyoming when I was13 years old. Fishing on maybe the Platte River? But could’ve been a creek… my little brother getting so tormented by mosquitoes that he started bawling. My uncle then emptying ahoy two or three unfiltered pall malls in his bear-like hand, spitting into it, mixing it all up and rubbing it all over my brother’s arms, legs and face. Great mosquito repellent!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  135. @140. Sweet locale for the Wind River Canyon Trump Doral. W/t EPA neutered, should be an EZ pitch for rubles to make rubble of a canyon wall or two, dam that sewer, landscape 18 holes and add the hotel/casino w/heliport and parking lot. Make America great again means jobs, jobs jobs!

    “What a revoltin’ development this is.” – Chester Riley [William Bendix] ‘The Life of Riley’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  136. ABB

    Did you ever get the results of the cheek swab the Blackfoot gave you?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  137. @140. Sweet locale for the Wind River Canyon Trump Doral. W/t EPA neutered, should be an EZ pitch for rubles to make rubble of a canyon wall or two, dam that sewer, landscape 18 holes and add the hotel/casino w/heliport and parking lot. Make America great again means jobs, jobs jobs!

    “What a revoltin’ development this is.” – Chester Riley [William Bendix] ‘The Life of Riley’
    DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/27/2017 @ 7:04 pm

    It’s part of a sovereign nation so he would have to invade it like the Bushes or release an Innocence of Chief Washakie Youtube video.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  138. “Not a fan of the ending, though it is Hollywood so I shouldn’t have been surprised.”

    – NJRob

    Really? What wasn’t to your liking?

    Leviticus (c7071a)

  139. Hey, PandP… I remember visiting my aunt, uncle and cousins in Lander, Wyoming when I was13 years old. Fishing on maybe the Platte River? But could’ve been a creek… my little brother getting so tormented by mosquitoes that he started bawling. My uncle then emptying ahoy two or three unfiltered pall malls in his bear-like hand, spitting into it, mixing it all up and rubbing it all over my brother’s arms, legs and face. Great mosquito repellent!
    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/27/2017 @ 7:02 pm

    Probably the Popo Agie River. Say the first word like “Da Popo arrested muh aunti” and go right into “zzzzuuuuhh”.

    When I was a little kid we’d drive to Thermopolis or Riverton. There is a causeway over Boysen Reservoir, seemed like a couple of miles. The level of Boysen dropped so much it was just a moonscape later on when I would drive that way. It’s fed by the Wind River.

    Lander is nice. The last time I was there was for a funeral. Dave, the big boss of my company died at his own hand in a plane crash. He took my coworker Kyle out with him. Tried to do the whole Buddy Holly fly in a snowstorm thing. They had some Northern Arapahoes or Shoshones playing drums. I went to Sink’s Canyon. It was very beautiful.

    World’s Largest Mineral Hot Springs Thermopolis, WY

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  140. Has anybody looked at the 2018 Senate races? There are 33 seats up and 25 are held by Democrats, and of those 25 at least 5 are tossups. The Democrats are in desperate straits. They’ll pull anything. Roy Moore is lucky they did not plant a dead girl in his bed and a live boy in the trunk of his car.

    nk (dbc370)

  141. Not particularly. However, if they are there and they see actual abuse taking place, absent 40 year old accusations, yeah. Bust some heads.

    So what are you saying, Dave? They should allow abuse in their presence?

    It didn’t occur in their presence, unless you mean “in the same province”. The mother of one of the victims came to their base to complain about the abuse; they then summoned the perpetrator and beat him.

    The U.S. military’s purpose, and perforce their purpose in Afghanistan, is to protect the national security of the United States. In this case, as I understand it, there were standing orders not to intervene in domestic law-enforcement matters. I don’t claim to know all the details, but in general violating orders puts discipline and the mission at risk, which in turn puts American lives at risk.

    We often ask our soldiers to bomb, or shell, or demolish military objectives where, despite best efforts, non-combatant casualties might result. We don’t allow them to second-guess or disobey such orders. In effect, we are telling them to look the other way and do something that may well (and properly) disturb them. I don’t see a fundamental difference here. If the people with command authority think we can protect innocents without undue risk to our soldiers, I’m all for it. If not, we have to be realistic that we can’t right every wrong in the world.

    BTW, I don’t know if you’re aware, but the dismissal of the Green Beret sergeant who beat up the pedophile police chief was reversed in April 2016.

    Dave (445e97)

  142. Why are you guys supporting The Weinstein Company acquired the distribution rights on May 13, 2016, during the 2016 Cannes Film Festival.[6] In January 2017, it was announced the company would no longer distribute the film.[7] However, the distribution deal was later finalized.[8] It had a limited release on August 4, 2017, before going wide on August 18.[9]

    In October 2017, it was announced the film would be distributed on home media and streaming services through Lionsgate with the Weinstein Company name and logo omitted from the credits, trailer and packaging, following the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse scandal.[10]?

    Why do you and Jeremy Renner hate women so much?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  143. Gorgeous, Pinandpuller.
    mg (60b0f7) — 11/27/2017 @ 6:46 pm

    Well you spent a lot of time in CO so it’s kind of like the difference between Ginger and Mary Ann.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  144. Not a fan of the ending, though it is Hollywood so I shouldn’t have been surprised.
    NJRob (2ad508) — 11/27/2017 @ 6:57 pm

    I never saw The Neverending Story. How did that end?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  145. @163. They’ll take reservations at the Wind River Trump Doral, PP.

    MC, Visa, Amex. They’ll even take the Discover Card at the Washakie Gift Shop!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  146. even by just doing a huge fiasco all up in it o’keefe’s contributed to the growing honey boo boo fatigue what is afflicting America

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  147. BTW, I don’t know if you’re aware, but the dismissal of the Green Beret sergeant who beat up the pedophile police chief was reversed in April 2016.
    Dave (445e97) — 11/27/2017 @ 7:58 pm

    I think I did, but thanks nonetheless. I just thought it was an interesting comparison contrast re “acting presidential” and “perceptions”. Like Bush, Ramos and Campeon.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  148. MC, Visa, Amex. They’ll even take the Discover Card at the Washakie Gift Shop!
    DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/27/2017 @ 8:10 pm

    Can Ivanka redeem Mardi Gras beads?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  149. Don’t want to ruin the ending for those that want to see it so I’ll just say it was typical Hollywood going for their expected ending.

    NJRob (2ad508)

  150. Today’s episode of ‘The Wonderful World of Donald J. Trump’ is titled ‘How can I make the Navajo Codetalkers talk about me?’

    “Pocahontas.”

    Of course.

    “Good evening and welcome to Teepee Talk.” – Harry Doyle [Bob Uecker] ‘Major League’ 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  151. I never saw The Neverending Story. How did that end?

    Pinandpuller (fc778d) — 11/27/2017 @ 8:07 pm

    I don’t remember, but the book just goes on and on.

    Maybe you should make a wish.

    NJRob (2ad508)

  152. @164. Children stay for free, PP.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. Two is coincidence is enemy action:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/935374604872200193

    narciso (d1f714)

  154. I don’t remember, but the book just goes on and on.

    Maybe you should make a wish.
    NJRob (2ad508) — 11/27/2017 @ 8:29 pm

    I bet The Neverending Story book was bound like a calendar!

    Not to give anything away but is Wind River anything like Thunderheart?

    Oh, you ever read Tony Hillerman? I’ve adopted a lot of my parent’s old books. Pretty good.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  155. I’m watching The Autopsy of Jane Doe with Emile Hirsch and Brian Cox. Remember when Emile Hirsch laid a chokehold and a bodyslam on a studio executive at The Sundance Film Festival?

    He was supposedly blackout drunk at altitude and didn’t remember anything. Ms Bernfeld decided to pursue the “matter” once her name leaked out. It’s too bad he did it to an innocent woman.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d)

  156. You know the saying that SJWs always double down. When they get caught in an awkward position, they try to escalate. Does that apply to Never Trumpers as well? Moore is not the hill for them to die on. It would have made more sense to wait till he did something like Bush’s “read my lips”. With all the internal factions and confusion in the White House, plenty of mistakes were just waiting to occur.

    It is like a bunch of guys who are against building a wall on the Mexican border screaming that Trump hasn’t built the wall. True, because your pols stop him. This doesn’t make me hate or distrust Trump; it reminds me that the establishment needs to be sent into exile.

    Donaldo (95053d)

  157. x-country skiing to the hot springs in jellystone during the winter is as good as it gets, Pinandpuller.

    mg (60b0f7)

  158. I love the Bighorn Mnts as well.

    mg (60b0f7)

  159. Lieawatha sure is a angry squaw. Maxine is happy she is not black.

    mg (60b0f7)

  160. It is like a bunch of guys who are against building a wall on the Mexican border screaming that Trump hasn’t built the wall. True, because your pols stop him. This doesn’t make me hate or distrust Trump; it reminds me that the establishment needs to be sent into exile.

    Trump promised that Mexico would pay for every cent of the wall, and that it wouldn’t cost the tax-payers anything.

    Until he keeps his promise, as the greatest negotiator who has ever lived, and gets Mexico to agree to pay (how’s that working out, by the way?), the so-called establishment is simply keeping him from breaking yet another campaign promise and sticking the American people with the bill.

    Dave (445e97)

  161. sleazy cowardpig John McCain promised to build the dang fence too but he lied huh

    he never had any intention he’s just a disgrace-to-his-uniform liar :(

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  162. Dave,

    He lied, of course. But he may make a certain effort to have a wall built or immigration limited – if for no other reason than to be popular going forward. The establishment, on the other hand, wants us replaced. Why should I vote for an establishment type?

    Donaldo (95053d)

  163. Dave, in case you actually believe politicians here is twelve minutes of recorded Obama lies in his own words. Enjoy, and quit bitchin’ like a teenage girl about Trump lying. He ain’t the first and won’t be the last but at least he’s not stealing your money or freedom like Obummer did.

    https://youtu.be/kg9m1F8B2_c

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  164. If WaPo will stoop to this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/11/28/andrew-jackson-was-called-indian-killer-trump-honored-navajos-in-front-of-his-portrait/?utm_term=.5a9ebcd75a76 , it will stoop to anything. Including faking up every slander against Moore.

    Trump has the Democrats and their media lapdogs not knowing whether to sh!t or go blind. I like that.

    nk (dbc370)

  165. wapo will stoop to freaking anything

    it’s so disgusting

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  166. I saw Jeff Bezos kick a puppy right in downtown Los Angeles. And I can corroborate it, too. I can show you a map of Los Angeles.

    nk (dbc370)

  167. An artist’s sketch of a puppy, too.

    nk (dbc370)

  168. The hits just keep comin’ for these sleezy Democrat politicians. Seems to be throwing them off message and also giving the Democrat operatives with bylines – aka teh Media – a difficult row to hoe, teh ho’s…

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  169. What new outrage will “conservative” Dave get his knickers in a twist over next?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  170. Another reason O’Keefe’s plot collapsed again is because it is premised on a ludicrously false worldview. The Washington Post does not, in fact, publish unverified accusations just because they’re against Republicans. His various attempts to prove rampant voter fraud have failed in part because voter fraud is not rampant.
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/conservative-fails-to-prove-washingtonpost-is-fake-news.html

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  171. O’Keefe LOL.

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  172. Rear Admiral… heh…

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  173. blackfoot in tow

    mg (60b0f7)

  174. The scam collapsed for a number of reasons. His fake source provided a flimsy cover story with odd details — she claimed to have only spent a few summers in Alabama, but provided a cell phone with an Alabama area code. The supposed place of employment that she provided did not have any person by that name working there. A search of her name turned up a social-media post in which she explained that she was going to “work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceipt [sic] of the liberal MSM.”

    NY Mag

    QUACK! QUACK!

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  175. Mg and haiku make a cute twosome.

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  176. A large part of it is about money. The Democrats will need to spend billions just on the Senate races alone in 2018. By frothing up the SJWs across the country, they hope to get more donations pouring in. They already have them as voting blocks in the contested states, for whatever they’re worth.

    nk (dbc370)

  177. Scorpion to tortoise:

    You knew what I was

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/opinion/senate-tax-bill-scam.html?referer=

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  178. But all racists are Republicans.

    Racism is where you judge people by their race. While there is a lot of that going on, most of it comes from the Democrat side.

    BLM. La Raza. The Nation. Or any number of other groups that pigeonhole people by race. Not to mention the professoriat that finds “white people” to be evil and in need of elimination. Find me a group that the GOP acknowledges that even has racial qualifications for membership. There are any number of such Democrat groups.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  179. I’m a cracker but not pridefully.

    It’s always good to be alert to those blue-eyed rapists and pillagers coming from the North.

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  180. Vikings, Boers, Rhodesians, Prussians all love whiteness.

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  181. I have been arguing for a while now that economic ‘stimulus,’ which is the rationale behind the claim that the reduction in corporate taxes would increase growth, is useless and has been useless for a while now.

    Dana–

    There are different ways to do this. The Democrat way is to spend more money on government programs. The GOP way is to cut taxes and let people have more money to spend on things they want. Since most government programs are woefully inefficient and have zero (or even negative) multipliers, it is not surprising that that kind of stimulus is ineffective.

    The tax cut method has better results historically. The cuts of 1962, 1982 and 2002 all come to mind. If the 2002 tax cuts had not been in place, the market/economic drop after 9-11 would have been a rout. And there have been cases where the government actually DID do the other part of Keynes’ prescription. The 1994 tax hike and the Clinton-Gingrich budget cuts later on being a prime example.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  182. According to Maza, Hannity is becoming a problem for Fox because some advertisers have fled his show. “Conspiracy theorists scare big companies. It’s why Alex Jones has to sell male vitality pills. It’s why Glenn Beck’s show ended despite him having pretty good ratings,” Maza said. “Now Hannity is testing the network’s limits. And once again, Fox has to figure out if the conspiracy monster they created is worth the damage they’re doing to their bottom line.”

    https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/sean-hannity-mainstreaming-alex-jones

    Admiral Ben burn (0f35a5)

  183. I bet The Neverending Story book was bound like a calendar!

    Not to give anything away but is Wind River anything like Thunderheart?

    Oh, you ever read Tony Hillerman? I’ve adopted a lot of my parent’s old books. Pretty good.

    Pinandpuller (fc778d) — 11/27/2017 @ 10:27 pm

    I haven’t, but I’m always looking for new things to read.

    Not the same twist as Thunderheart, but similar hollywood villain. There’s only a few options allowed in hollywood anymore.

    NJRob (b00189)

  184. 199… and that’s a fact, KevinM. Splitting into racialist tribes is the Democrat Approach, it’s their way of conducting their business, no matter how large or small the tribe may be.

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  185. Dat cracker done been cracked wide open, Rear Admiral BeenBurned!

    Colonel Haiku (647002)

  186. If WaPo will stoop to this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/11/28/andrew-jackson-was-called-indian-killer-trump-honored-navajos-in-front-of-his-portrait/?utm_term=.5a9ebcd75a76 , it will stoop to anything. Including faking up every slander against Moore.

    Trump has the Democrats and their media lapdogs not knowing whether to sh!t or go blind. I like that.

    nk (dbc370) — 11/28/2017 @ 6:02 am

    Could you repost this in Patterico’s new article where he praises the East Coast Dog Trainer?

    NJRob (b00189)

  187. twelve minutes of recorded Obama lies

    Twelve minutes of lies? LOL.

    You’d be hard-pressed to find twelve minutes of Trump telling the truth.

    Dave (445e97)

  188. I’m a cracker but not pridefully.

    It’s always good to be alert to those blue-eyed rapists and pillagers coming from the North.

    Given that more than half the comments here are from trolls, this site is less and less useful.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  189. I don;’ think tax cuts cause economic growth, but the rate of economic growth we have been experiencing is much lower than the historical track record. So it could work out as predicted, even though the theory is wrong.

    Sammy Finkelman (e3cf91)

  190. Mr M wrote:

    There are different ways to do this. The Democrat way is to spend more money on government programs. The GOP way is to cut taxes and let people have more money to spend on things they want. Since most government programs are woefully inefficient and have zero (or even negative) multipliers, it is not surprising that that kind of stimulus is ineffective.

    Even when the Democrats do it, and add money to government spending, the extra money finds its way into the private sector. Part of the 2009 porkulus plan was increased spending on infrastructure projects, and those are all done by private contractors.

    One apparently unforeseeable result of the 2007-8 downturn was that people who still had jobs did something really radical like paid down their bills, rather than going on a consumer spending binge. Keynesian deficit spending is s’posed to accelerate spending, and the velocity of money, but people paying down bills, at a time when financial institutions were loath to lend, and too many people had damaged credit ratings meant that more money just sat there, in banks, and the velocity of money slowed.

    The tax cut method has better results historically. The cuts of 1962, 1982 and 2002 all come to mind. If the 2002 tax cuts had not been in place, the market/economic drop after 9-11 would have been a rout.

    Sorry, but that’s like the Obama Administration’s claims that the recession would have been much worse without their porkulus spending, despite the fact that it was already worse than what they projected if the pork bill hadn’t been passed. The simple fact is that no one knows or can know what would have happened otherwise.

    And there have been cases where the government actually DID do the other part of Keynes’ prescription. The 1994 tax hike and the Clinton-Gingrich budget cuts later on being a prime example.

    Alas! we ran a surplus for a whopping four years. Other than those four years, we have had a deficit every year since 1969.

    The economist Dana (ecab7a)

  191. x-country skiing to the hot springs in jellystone during the winter is as good as it gets, Pinandpuller.

    mg (60b0f7) — 11/28/2017 @ 3:18 am

    When I was in HS we went to Togwotee Lodge to go snowmobiling and I entered a Nordic race for some dumb reason. It was still pretty fun.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  192. Jackson Hole is my favorite place to ski. Was fortunate enough to know ski patrol and was able to ski Cody bowl a few times. Bottomless with a snorkel, peeps and probe poles!

    mg (60b0f7)

  193. Pinandpuller
    Snowmobiling at Togwotee must have been the balls. Take any air off the cornice?

    mg (60b0f7)


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