Rep. John Conyers Settled Wrongful Dismissal Complaint Involving Sexual Misconduct
[guest post by Dana]
Yesterday, the longest-serving House member, Democratic Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, made the news when it was revealed that a former female employee claimed she was fired for refusing his sexual advances, including being told to touch his genitals, share a hotel room with him while on business trips, as well as Conyers also suggesting she could potentially receive financial compensation or a promotion if she provided him with requested sexual favors. Conyers is 88 years old.
Michigan Rep. John Conyers, a Democrat and the longest-serving member of the House of Representatives, settled a wrongful dismissal complaint in 2015 with a former employee who alleged she was fired because she would not “succumb to [his] sexual advances.”
Documents from the complaint obtained by BuzzFeed News include four signed affidavits, three of which are notarized, from former staff members who allege that Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Judiciary Committee, repeatedly made sexual advances to female staff that included requests for sexual favors, contacting and transporting other women with whom they believed Conyers was having affairs, caressing their hands sexually, and rubbing their legs and backs in public. Four people involved with the case verified the documents are authentic.
The report also exposes the complicated procedure used to protect members of Congress who are involved in harassment complaints and payouts. As described, it is “a grinding, closely held process,” and one which left victims feeling as if they have no choice but to take the payout:
“I was basically blackballed. There was nowhere I could go,” she said in a phone interview. BuzzFeed News is withholding the woman’s name at her request because she said she fears retribution.
…
The woman who settled with Conyers launched the complaint with the Office of Compliance in 2014, alleging she was fired for refusing his sexual advances, and ended up facing a daunting process that ended with a confidentiality agreement in exchange for a settlement of more than $27,000. Her settlement, however, came from Conyers’ office budget rather than the designated fund for settlements.
Here is how the “system” worked in Conyer’s case:
In this case, one of Conyers’ former employees was offered a settlement, in exchange for her silence, that would be paid out of Conyers’ taxpayer-funded office budget. His office would “rehire” the woman as a “temporary employee” despite her being directed not to come into the office or do any actual work, according to the document. The complainant would receive a total payment of $27,111.75 over the three months, after which point she would be removed from the payroll, according to the document.
Matthew Peterson, a law clerk who represented the complainant and was a signatory to some of the documents, described the process as “disgusting”:
“It is a designed cover-up,” said Peterson, who declined to discuss details of the case but agreed to characterize it in general terms. “You feel like they were betrayed by their government just for coming forward. It’s like being abused twice.”
Unbelievably, Congress does not have a Human Resources department for employees to go to in these situations. Further, what process is in place is so arduous and drawn out that it almost seems as if the goal is to completely exhaust any employee attempting to make a complaint and compel them to give up and quietly go away:
Congress has no human resources department. Instead, congressional employees have 180 days to report a sexual harassment incident to the Office of Compliance, which then leads to a lengthy process that involves counseling and mediation, and requires the signing of a confidentiality agreement before a complaint can go forward.
After this an employee can choose to take the matter to federal district court, but another avenue is available: an administrative hearing, after which a negotiation and settlement may follow.
The process also contains a mandatory cooling off period for the victim.
Per a report in the Washington Post, “Congress’s Office of Compliance paid out $17 million for 264 settlements with federal employees over 20 years for various violations, including sexual harassment.”
No call from Democrats for Rep. Conyers to step down yet. Ironically, just last month Maxine Waters lauded Conyers as a champion of women:
“You know, there is a member of Congress who has been supportive of women for many, many, many years,” said said in a keynote address to the Women’s Convention Sojourner Truth Luncheon in Detroit.
“He is quiet, he is confident, he is powerful, but he has impeccable integrity on all of our issues. Give John Conyers a big round of applause.”
…
“I just want to take time to focus on something that I think we need to focus on right now. It is very fortuitous that we are gathered here this afternoon in Detroit as we continue to recognize a record number of women who are boldly coming forward to reveal disturbing and grotesque acts of sexual harassment, assault and rape, often times at the hands of men who believed they were too rich and too powerful to ever be confronted or held accountable.”
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
Our tax dollars at work.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:18 amshe settled for a pittance
even more so if any legal bills had to be paid out of her settlement
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:20 amOutrage fatigue setting in..
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:20 amConyers denies knowing anything about any claims of sexual misconduct and “learned of the story from television just hours earlier”.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:33 amIn a GOP lead Congress; this is going to be a prime target for the media. But that will be a good thing because we will find out that most of the offenders will be big city Dems.
Shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:39 amHe says he hasn’t paid anything… which is true. WE have.
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:47 amThis is a surprise to exactly no one.
However, I seriously doubt that only Democrats have been offenders. I’m going to tell an uncomfortable truth here: members of Congress are all aggressive personalities — if you aren’t aggressive, you aren’t ever going to run for Congress — and aggression in men includes being sexually aggressive. That means pursuing women, and we can hope that the majority of men understand that no means no, and can be in control of themselves enough not to do illegal stuff, but congressmen are going to be pursuing women. That’s just human nature.
The very blunt Dana (08b297) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:53 amThis is EXACTLY the kind of thing that Paul Ryan and the Freedom Caucus can bring an end to.
The Freedom Caucus largely came into office after the Tea Party movement, so they aren’t invested in the ways the institution protects members from their own misdeeds.
Ryan sees himself as a reform Speaker.
They need to step up, expose the mechanism in place, and scrap it.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:54 amI don’t disagree with 7 – I never said “only” Dems will be offenders. I said “most of the offenders” will be big City Dems.
It goes with the territory of permissiveness and moral relativism that is ingrained in the DNA of liberal/progressives.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:56 amjesse jackson timed his parkinson’s perfectly
kinda like how mccain did with his cancer story after getting busted shopping around that phony pee pee dossier
these people are so sleazy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:00 amToo HotToo OldThis hit, that ice cold
Charlie Rose, that white old
This one for them team girls
Them good girls straight masterpieces
Stylin’, whilen, livin’ it up in the city
But Chuck’s on teh hot interns
Gotta take teh shower, it ain’t pretty
He too old (got damn)
Called a police and a fireman
He too old (got damn)
Make a dragon wanna retire man
He too old (got damn)
Say his name you know who he am
He too old (got damn)
An’ he bad ’bout that money, break it down
Girls hit your hallelujah (whoo)
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:02 amGirls hit your hallelujah (whoo)
Girls hit your hallelujah (whoo)
‘Cause Crusty Paw gon’ give it to you
‘Cause Crusty Paw gon’ give it to you
‘Cause Crusty Paw gon’ give it to you
Saturday night and he in the spot
Don’t believe it just watch (come on)
call an ambulance and a fireman
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:03 amSWC, you underestimate the amount of moral relativism that is ingrained in politics in general.
About 250 years ago, the first “best selling novel” (that is, the first one for which that modern phrase can be appropriately used) was Pamela by Samuel Richardson. Want to go guess what the core of its plot was?
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:04 amWe have in Congress the mass of officials who believe in their own nobility, and sycophants who puff them. They are surprised when they encounter someone with morals.
Term limits and open meetings the only solution.
Steve Malynn (296daf) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:11 am“He did us just like Bill did Monica. He was ridin’ dirty.” Rev Jeremiah Wright
Pinandpuller (0957da) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:16 amkishevi — you’re clueless.
Compare John Conyers to Mike Pence.
Compare elected reps who take their marital vows seriously as a matter of religious fidelity, and those who have no moral anchor set in religious beliefs.
Are there offenders on both sides? Of course.
But let’s see where the “I want what I want” attitude is most prevalent.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:18 am“I want to cut his nuts out.” Rev Jesse Jackson
Pinandpuller (0957da) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:18 amSometimes I think Maxine Waters is too partisan.
Kevin M (752a26) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:19 am“Pull your pants up!” Dr Bill Cosby
Pinandpuller (0957da) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:19 amLOL — post script on Conyers and Pence.
Mike Pence — will not dine alone with another woman, and will not attend any event where alcohol is served unless accompanied by his wife.
John Conyers — demanding sexual favors from female staffer while his wife is serving time in prison for accepting bribes while on the Detroit City Council.
ROFLMFAO.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:21 amPaul Ryan says he wants to see the reporting system reformed:
I think the public should be informed of the names of every member who worked to make sure that the current reporting system would protect those accused of sexual misconduct to the degree that it currently does.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:21 amI said “most of the offenders” will be big City Dems.
Yes, but this isn’t really because of their politics, but because machine politicians protect each other in a way that cops would envy.
Kevin M (752a26) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:21 amJohn Conyers — reads Playboy while seated in coach class on domestic airline flight.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:22 am21 – Paul Ryan, as he can within his power as Speaker, should simply disband the Committee, and cut off funds for the Office of Compliance.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:24 amWhat about Trump’s moral values when it comes to women, swc? He likes to ogle nude or nearly nude teenage girls.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:30 amThis is about power, not Party.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:30 amPresident Trump is so good i like how he does family values and helps give opportunities to pretty girls who might otherwise struggle in life.
He’s a catalyst for hope and prosperity.
But John Conyers just wants to use women for sex and then dispose of them like they were disposable consumables for example a tub of beer cheese.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:36 am“This business is filled to the brim with unrealistic m************. M************ who think their a**will age like wine. If you mean it turns to vinegar…it does. If you mean it gets better with age…it don’t.” Marsellus Wallace
Pinandpuller (0957da) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:36 amgood lord vanna throw a pikachu a goddamn vowell
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:36 am*vowel* i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:37 amThe bloom is off the Rose; CBS has fired him.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:40 am“Goodbye, Charlie.” – Bobby Darin, 1964
Should be easy enough to confirm.
The source material for the Conyers piece is Mike Cernovich.
‘Nuff said.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:42 am@5. OTOH, trying to save it from growing chances of loss of both the House and Senate keeps the Roger Stones and his ilk busy little beavers.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:45 amthat was fast considering it took CBS something like 6 months to fire Dan Rather for doing fraudulent news
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:46 am@34. That was back in the dial-up modem days, Mr. Feet.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:48 amso sex grope > using forged documents to sway a presidential election
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:48 amRather was a marquee name for the brand, Rose was not. If Rose was a marquee name for anyone, it was for PBS.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:50 amAnd it hasn’t kept Rather from flogging his books on NPR….
Now Conyers denies the ‘allegations’ but confirms a ‘settlement’ was paid out of his office’s budget.
WTF. Jackie Spears should just release the names of the Congress critters and be done with this.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:58 amthese are all terrible people but fraudster Dan Rather is way way worse than some nasty geezer what just wants to feel loved one last time
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:02 am@37. Kish, Rose was employed by CBS; PBS simply airs his talk show produced by his own production production company. Expect Bloomberg to likely follow suit and dump him.
He’s now the newest citizen of Podcast City. Or he can try Europe or Australia. But he’s toast in U.S. broadcasting– unless somebody can figure ou how to make buck off him.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:03 amGood Lord, Rather is more a facebook resistance icon these days.
urbanleftbehind (bca9b7) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:04 amInteresting that the ‘killian memo’ has some irregularities like a certain piece of evidence.
narciso (d5a5f2) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:05 am40
Yes, but Rose made his name, and his name is linked to, PBS far more than CBS.
And (my original point)Rather’s name was linked to CBS far more than Rose’s ever was.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:06 amTrump is pardoning two turkeys–
Has anybody checked to see if it’s not really Eric and Don Jr., dressed up like Paul Simon on SNL back in the day?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:07 am@43. Kish, in recent times his PBS gig was big but back in the day befor it launched he was a CBS employee- ‘CBS Nightwatch’ was his baby before he launched his PBS gig. Not sure, but he might have just re-upped his contract, too– but the speed he was dumped suggests he violated some terms in it. 60 Minutes and CBS Morning now have slots to fill.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:11 amBarron looked more alert than usual
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:14 amPaul Ryan is a pervert enabler.
mg (60b0f7) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:14 amThe article mentions that this slush fund was created in 1995. Republicans controlled both houses in 1995.
Davethulhu (6a4a84) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:17 am44, are you talking about the Lovitz devil skit, where teenage S and G were playing the bassoon?
urbanleftbehind (bca9b7) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:19 am“What about Trump’s moral values when it comes to women, swc? He likes to ogle nude or nearly nude teenage girls.
– DRJ
I would predict that this would draw a hilarious response, but I will actually predict that it will draw no response.
Leviticus (efada1) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:20 amThis is about power, not Party.
Bingo. But crickets respond only to self interest.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:22 am@49- Referring to when Paul Simon opened a SNL Thanksgiving show, mid-70s, dressed in a turkey suit singing ‘Still Crazy After All These Years”…
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:32 amSee, that proves Donnie Jr as an expendable runt to many Trump backers.
urbanleftbehind (bca9b7) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:33 am@53. Eric’s really the smart one; Mueller’s probe will prove it.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:39 amLeviticus, I would invite you to
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:39 am21. “Additional reforms to the system are under consideration… ”
– Paul Ryan.
The current system is a reform, put into place in 1995 during Newt Gingrich’s first term as Speaker.
Before that, there was apparently no system at all for taking complaints, and the only recourse was either to threaten to go public and hurt a member’s political career, try the Ethics Committee (which wouldn’t do anything for the complainant, although in the worst possible case, it might recommend expelling a member, but that would be over money or an indictment) or sue in federal court.
According to a New York Times story, some women were not even aware there was a place to take complaints to (besides maybe the Ethics Committee)
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:45 amBattle of Lepanto.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:47 amThis is about power, not Party.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:30 am
Too early to draw that conclusion. They aren’t mutually exclusive. It could be a mindset. It could be those who rail about rapey culture, abuse of women and such do so because they are up to their leftwing keisters in it.
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:49 amDon’t believe me just watch.
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:50 amOops. A cricket responded..alas, wrong-headed.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:53 am24. shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:24 am
Than you would have nothing at all. That would restorore the situation maybe to circa 1960, to whenever before they created thw Ethics Committee..
Wikipedia claims it goes back at least to 1798 but that can’t be right. Here is some history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Ethics
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:54 amThis is about power, not Party.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:30 am
Yep.
______________
Breaking—An hour after CBS took the dump, PBS has flushed him; PBS has just cancelled distribution of Charlie Rose’s talk show, essentially ‘firing’ him. For a clean wipe, next will be Bloomberg.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:55 amHow’s the FIAT?
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:55 am38. DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 9:58 am
She says she wants the non-disclosure agreements lifted first.
In this case, the money was paid by re-hiring the woman for a short time, three months, into a no-show job (but aren’t no-show jobs ethics violations in themselves? Maybe it was budgeted as vacation time?)
Conyers may not be one of the two members of Congress she is talking about.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:58 am@46. Barron looked more alert than usual.
He’s the Christmas goose; golden-if-not-gold-plated-eggs in his future.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:59 am@65. Events are overtaking her and it fast, Sammy.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:00 am66. Does he have to pick his nose while he chokes his chicken?
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:03 amWe are not supposed to talk about Trump and his sexual misconduct.
Power run amok also runs amok in both parties. The actions of both President Clinton and President Trump have set an equally low bar for both the Democrat and Republican party’s standards of acceptability. That it’s equally dismal should also keep them from pointing the finger of accusation at the opposing party with a smug A-ha! Of course, it should, but doesn’t. Not in the political Whataboutism scenario we now find ourselves inhabiting.
And that is not for the betterment of anyone, except those powerful individuals who continue to get away with indulging their various lusts, and making piles of money.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:03 amI know you’re at work.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:04 am69
What you said…
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:05 am63. DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:55 am
The New York Times overlooked something in the purge and left a mention of Charlie Rose at the end of its Charles Manson obituary:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.html?_r=0
his was in today’s paper. To defend themselves from failing to completely purge Charlie Rose, the New York Times could say that this was actually posted online a day earlier, Nov. 20, but the news of Charles Manson’s death broke too late to put more than a mention and an URL on the front page yesterday, and also the obituary was actually of course written years ago – and even if was looked over in the last few days, that was still before the Charlie Rose story broke.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:10 am48. Davethulhu (6a4a84) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:17 am
That was the reform! Before that, the only way to get any money was to win in federal court in a lawsuit against Congress, or get something from the member’s office budget.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:14 am@69. =w/sarcasm= Ahhhh, but Dana, Access Hollywood 101: he’s a ‘star’ and can get away with it. And what about leaks– Trump was all into that; was this particular non-disclosure document swiped by a Roger-Stoner-type or open to public review? Trump should get on this right away!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:16 amI had too many windosws open.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:16 amFurther, as long as Paul Ryan believes that sexual harassment training will help solve the problem, then it’s going to remain a problem because no amount of training will change the fact that abusive Congressmen know they can get away with it. Why would they support any change in being protected? I have little confidence that there will be any significant change in the process. Too many in power have relied, and continue to rely upon the secrecy. The only way I could see Ryan be seriously pressed into a hard change is if the women in Congress, especially sitting Congresswomen, name names.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:18 am25 – how about the fact that Trump has been a Republican for about 15 min?
He lived his whole life as a big city Dem. he is the quintessential product of NYC
Shipwreckedcrew (847895) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:20 amvalues.
@76. Agree 100%. Especially as they essentially have no HR department. Recall how hard they had to battle just to get a Ladies Room installed… the Congresswomen and staff are going to have to ‘man up’ and press on.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:24 amno amount of training will change the fact that abusive Congressmen know they can get away with it
a lot depends on how good the powerpoint is
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:32 amplus roleplaying
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:32 amTeh Crusty Paw… https://mobile.twitter.com/charlieroseshow/status/906313790483988480
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 11:38 amHand of FateCrusty PawThe Crusty Paw is on ‘er now
It feel her up and lay ‘er down
He’s outta work, hisself beclowned
The Crusty Paw is heavy now
He grabbed teh soap, he took teh shower
Colonel Haiku (65f4ca) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:01 pmThe clock it ticks, teh witching Hour
Turning round, turning round
He should have known, love ain’t bound to trust
Old man is done, dick’s in teh dust
He felt ‘em up and laid ‘em down
He’s outta work and self beclowned
The Crusty Paw is heavy now
OTOH, apparently Charlie Rose hired a lot of women over the years. Next chapter: How many men got screwed by him?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:05 pmDuh! Crusty paw….guffaw!
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:18 pmLOL — it seems my comments now are being sent to moderation.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:36 pm@84. ???? They’re on my screen, swc.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:40 pmNot all of them — I have 2 in moderation. One responding to DRJ’s “what about Trump” comment, and one in the Charles Manson thread.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:47 pm@72. Think about it, Sammy; in less than 24 hours Rose went from being a respected journalist having a sweet gig at PBS, two lucrative jobs at CBS Morning and 60 Minutes along w/his Bloomberg work– the toast of the town– to losing pretty much all of it -along w/his reputation; tried, convicted and professionally executed in the media all in less than a day.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:51 pm@86. Don’t know, swc- computers are mystical machines: see 88 comments on my screen, including this one at posting and that tallies w/t count posted.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:54 pmOops ^90 w/this one.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:54 pmSWC,
I just approved one in moderation for this post, but didn’t see any others by you in moderation. Also, I don’t see why this one was in moderation.
Dana (023079) — 11/21/2017 @ 12:56 pmThis ones for the mighty sea
Mischief, gold and piracy
This ones for the man that raised me
Taught me sacrifice and bravery
This ones for our favorite game
Black and gold, we wave the flag
This ones for my family name
With pride I wear it to the grave</em
Rose Tattoo
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 1:11 pm91 — yep, that’s a mystery. One in the Manson thread said “Sad and juvenile.” Nothing else.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 1:22 pm88 — absolutely. Its stunning what the Weinstein effect has unleashed.
But the bloodletting is long overdue. I applaud all the women who have stepped forward, and I’m laughing at every moron man who let their Johnson do their thinking, and didn’t think this day would ever come.
My wife and I were discussing this, and I said “I can think back across my entire 23 years with DOJ, in two different offices, and honestly say I never did or said anything to a female co-worker that would put me in peril.”
To me, it was just beyond the pale to do so. I knew of others that did, and I couldn’t fathom how it was they would risk their entire career on what IMO was a triviality — a likely to be short-lived sexual tryst with a co-worker.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 1:26 pmSo Conyers says he dindu nuffin, eh? Sumdood in his Congressional office just paid a settlement, that’s all?
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2017 @ 1:40 pmAt least he’s not saying it was a drug deal gone bad.
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2017 @ 1:41 pmOh Man — not John Lasseter at Pixar!!!!
What will Buzz Lightyear say???
I guess we now have another clue as to why he chose the name “Woody” for Tom Hanks’ toy character.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:02 pmWho are these Neo Trolls?
Pattericos Torquemadas..
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:04 pmWoody Pride!
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:10 pmthe galleys and galeasses that were still the direct descendants of the ancient trireme warships.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:52 am
There were galleys, galleasses and galley lasses. That may be where calling vessels she comes from.
Berthed She, as she as dynoflagellate phytoplankton glows
As she as the sea grass grows
Berthed She to follow the wind
Live She and beautiful waters surround you
The world still confounds you
Every time you look at Catelyn Jenner
Stay She, where no walls divide heads
You’re She AF
So there’s no need to tuck
Berthed She and life is worth living
But only worth living
Because you’re Berthed She
Stay She, where hot bunking does not divide you
You’re She AF
There’s there’s no need to tuck
Berthed She and life is worth living
But only worth living
Because you’re Berthed Free
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:26 pmThe ineluctable tug of source material will pull you back every d*** time.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:31 pm@49- Referring to when Paul Simon opened a SNL Thanksgiving show, mid-70s, dressed in a turkey suit singing ‘Still Crazy After All These Years”…
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:32 am
Me and Muslito
Down by the Stockyard
h/t narciso
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:32 pmJohn Lasseter, a Pixar Founder, Takes Leave After ‘Missteps’
‘LOS ANGELES — One of the Walt Disney Company’s most important executives, the Pixar co-founder John Lasseter, said he would take “a six-month sabbatical” following unspecified “missteps” that made some staffers feel “disrespected or uncomfortable.”’
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/business/media/john-lasseter-pixar-disney-leave.html
Where is this all leading? — “To infinity and beyond!”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:34 pmBreaking—An hour after CBS took the dump, PBS has flushed him; PBS has just cancelled distribution of Charlie Rose’s talk show, essentially ‘firing’ him. For a clean wipe, next will be Bloomberg.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:55 am
You mean, with a hotel towel?
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:36 pmIt’s a war on testosterone.
Gather your winter nutz, squirrels.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:37 pm@103- PS: Enough of this Mickey Mouse behavior already.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:38 pmMickey Mouse?
Did you mean monkey dick or peanut balls?
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:39 pmRohrabacher has a Kremlin code name?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/politics/dana-rohrabacher-putin-trump-kremlin-under-fire.html?referer=
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 11/21/2017 @ 2:44 pm@94. Yep– absolutely amazing the speed of this. Cross between the blacklist era seasoned w/a little French revolution, to me. And thing is, there will be collateral damage to those not directly involved who lose their jobs or have careers tainted simply w/guilt by association. We’re just seeing the higher profiled dominoes fall in media focused professions but consider the restaurant staff, hotel managers, business execs and the ‘Al Bundys’ down the feeding chain that’ll never make the evening news. But the speed of Rose’s ex-communication simply from accusations published is remarkable. Corporations are not going to expose themselves to the kind of endless publicity and litigation like Fox has gone through.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 4:53 pmLowT lefties hardest hit…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:10 pmConyers… soliciting sexual favors while his prison b*tch wife serves time for bribery.
Class act, all teh way around.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:13 pm@shipwreckedcrew @85 87. 11/21/2017 @ 12:36 pm & 12:47 pm PST
Leaving a comment with too many links can put it into moderation. I’m not sure if there is an exact number that always does that r if it depends also on how much text is in between.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:20 pm@110 =Haiku= Gesundheit!
It’s been pretty costly across the board, Colonel. News Corp. has paid out a helluva lot of money because of Ailes, O’Reilly and assorted execs screwing around all those years. Stockholders got a settlement ruled in their favor just yesterday.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:25 pm72. 88. In the morning Charlie Rose was suspended by CBS, and at some point in the mid-afternoon, he was fired. There were some new accusations from CBS employees.
Gayle King, one of Charlie Rose’s ex-co-hosts on CBS This Morning, will be a guest on Stephen Colbert tonight. (airs after 11:30 pm EST – taped earlier) They may try to get Oprah to fill in some days, at least temporarily some days.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:35 pmMOre than a mere press release:
therightscoop.com/former-olde-hickory-employee-comes-forward-who-disputes-gloria-allred-claims-against-roy-moore
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:37 pmThat’s history. We are just starting to learn of these politicians, other media-types and Pervywood misdeeds… tip of the iceberg.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:47 pmExactly the Tiffany network has not been under the microscope:
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:55 pmhttp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/court-documents-raise-significant-questions-leigh-corfmans-accusations-roy-moore/amp
nobody believes these trashy honey boo boos anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:57 pmoh. except for Mitt “no proof no problem” Romney i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:58 pmRIP David Cassidy.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:18 pmR.I.P. David Cassidy
Icy (97c1fd) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:20 pmAnd you wonder why they are so screwed up:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/springtime-for-marx-and-germany.php
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:21 pmCaption this picture:
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:30 pmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/933120426326204418
Speaking of history, here’s a photo of something that’s completely predictable, but you probably never thought of as happening until you stumble over the evidence.
Especially for P&P
http://78.media.tumblr.com/8b7894385bd7faf5326e3994bdde466d/tumblr_ovm27sCEhQ1qdpvqio1_1280.jpg
As best I can tell, Sitting Bull is not one of the Indians.
kishnevi (35d300) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:32 pmYer slippin’, icy!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:36 pmThe last time I saw Cassidy in any role, was a s a guess star on the Wolfgang letersen vehicle, the agency that was about 15 years ago.
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:38 pm@120. =Haiku= Gesundheit!
Trump had’em cremated: Cassidy was one of the contestants on Celebrity Apprentice in 2011; he was the first to be fired.
“… C’mon, get happpyyyyy!”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2017 @ 6:40 pmOne less partridge in the pear tree this year.
kishnevi (35d300) — 11/21/2017 @ 7:01 pmDavis Cassidy is dead?
You are so ****ing right it’s scary.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 7:19 pmI think I’m David Cassidy
I think I’m David Cassidy
I really think so….
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 11/21/2017 @ 7:26 pmSo were left with Danny bonaduve AMD Susan day?
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 7:27 pmPinandpuller, the cool thing is to think you’re Marcia.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/21/2017 @ 7:31 pmBTW, does this mean that all them other gals in Conyers’ office are putting out?
Kevin M (752a26) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:24 pmOne other one, recanted so probably.
narciso (d1f714) — 11/21/2017 @ 8:51 pm@132 Steve57
I know right? She looks pretty good. I’m like an only child too.
Now Katy Cassidy has come back more times on Arrow than Freddy Kruger.
Pinandpuller (dd846b) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:44 pmIt’s like Johnnie “Cheaper to Keep Her” Taylor never worked for the government.
Pinandpuller (dd846b) — 11/21/2017 @ 10:46 pmOf course Conyers moves pretty slow, so maybe they just move out of the way and make zombie jokes.
Kevin M (752a26) — 11/22/2017 @ 12:55 am116. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/21/2017 @ 5:47 pm
The New York Times, in the middle of an article on a different subject, reported something about Aaron Burr that was somewhat similar to he Leigh Corfman accusation against oy Moore, but didn’t seem outraged.
(Separate link but this was published in the New York Times travel section this we)
http://m.startribune.com/when-new-york-city-was-a-battlefield-in-the-revolutionary-war/458093863/?section=variety
Now where here is the outrage against Aaron Burr?
Of course there are more important reasons he should never have become president.
Sammy Finkelman (57e37d) — 11/22/2017 @ 12:16 pm117. Breitbart finds two or three or four or five problems with the Washington Post story about Leigh Corfman:
1.
(Dupre is Moore’s former chief of staff on the Alabama Supreme Court, now speaking for the campaign.)
That’s an important discrepancy, if that turns out to be correct. Somebody else could make a mistake like that, (the wrong cross streets) but Leigh Corfman herself could not. At a minimum, it means she had help.
2. Dupre also says there was no other court case in February. I’m not sure what he’s saying but this raises the possibility that the document or the court date could be a forgery. Does he mean only one appearance involving Leigh Corfman?
3. Assuming the court documents are right, this was a joint petition on the past Leigh’s mother and father to transfer custody. It was granted and took effect in 12 days. This leave a short, but not impossible, window for all this to take place. You would think the impending move it would come up somewhere in the re-telling of this story. (Of course we’ve anyway got the problem of the Washington Post calling her and she not contacting the Washington Post, which means someone outed her.)
4. The matter with asking for her telephone number. and calling her without her mother becoming aware.
5. This one does not effect the credibility of the basic story but goes to how bad it was what he allegedly did: The Washington Post attempts to say that made her behavior bad. Actually that was reported as being bad before and was reported as being better after a year, and her mother regained custody after about a year and a half.
Sammy Finkelman (762ee4) — 11/24/2017 @ 9:12 am