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10/10/2017

Frankly, It Would Be Surprising If This Wasn’t Happening In California

Filed under: General — Dana @ 3:34 pm

[guest post by Dana]

With Gov. Jerry Brown’s approval, California’s Democratic state Sen. Scott Weiner’s recent bills put the Golden State’s nuttery on full display. As if we needed more proof.

First:

Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Friday that lowers from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection.

The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.

Modern medicine allows those with HIV to live longer lives and nearly eliminates the possibility of transmission, according to state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblyman Todd Gloria (D-San Diego), authors of the bill.

“Today California took a major step toward treating HIV as a public health issue, instead of treating people living with HIV as criminals,” Wiener said in a statement. “HIV should be treated like all other serious infectious diseases, and that’s what SB 239 does.”

Opponents to the bill expressed their concerns:

Republican lawmakers including Sen. Joel Anderson of Alpine voted against the bill, arguing it puts the public at risk.

“I’m of the mind that if you purposefully inflict another with a disease that alters their lifestyle the rest of their life, puts them on a regimen of medications to maintain any kind of normalcy, it should be a felony,” Anderson said during the floor debate. “It’s absolutely crazy to me that we should go light on this.”

Weiner is also defending his bill that would “allow for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient“:

Weiner has also dismissed concerns about religious freedom regarding the criminal punishments for health care workers who don’t use transgender pronouns.

“Everyone is entitled to their religious view,” he said. “But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law.”

Opponents to this bill also expressed their concerns:

“How can you believe in free speech, but think the government can compel people to use certain pronouns when talking to others?” Greg Burt of the California Family Council testified in July.

“This is not tolerance. This is not love. This is not mutual respect. True tolerance tolerates people with different views. We need to treat each other with respect, but respect is a two-way street. It is not respectful to threaten people with punishment for having sincerely held beliefs that differ from your own.”

Misgendering gets a person jail time, but knowingly exposing individuals to HIV in the Golden State isn’t that big of a deal.

It’s downright funny to read the transcript of Ronald Reagan’s taped announcement on his candidacy for California Governor from 1966. What a distant memory.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

96 Responses to “Frankly, It Would Be Surprising If This Wasn’t Happening In California”

  1. Good grief. This is what happens when in a deep blue state compelled to continually prove its progressive bona fides.

    Dana (023079)

  2. No, Dana. This is not [only] California politicians trying to prove their progressive bona fides. This is the homosexual agenda trying to make AIDS everybody’s problem.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. Homo Erectus sounds dirty.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  4. It can’t be much longer until they turn into pillars of salt, can it?

    crazy (d99a88)

  5. AIDS is NOT a GAY DISEASE!!! Anyone cant get it.

    Ronald Reagan didn’t give money to study and fight AIDS.

    RONALD REAGAN HATES GAYS!!!!

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  6. Any President who calls wifey MAMA! needs to distance himself from Rock Hudson. Closets are for empty suits.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  7. *can*

    NO DISEASE IS ILLEGAL! SANCTUARY BODIES COME FORTH OUT OF THE SHADOWS! GIVE ME YOUR AIDS, SYPHILIS AND GONORRHEA, YEARNING TO BREAK FREE!

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  8. But wait, Trump is bad.

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  9. #7 …. but they sure get a disproportionate amount of it. Like alot.

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  10. What a distant memory.

    What a fossil.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  11. 10. Yeah, I need a story like this once in a while to remind me that there are worse things than Trump.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. much like california aids ain’t what it used to be

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. #13 Bingo.

    Leftism is evil. Even good man Barry.

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  14. It really is the hotel California,

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. These are the same people who made every California business put up a sign warning that it contains chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm.

    They’re nuts.

    nk (dbc370)

  16. #10 Poor Biggie, quite right, Trump is bad, but more importantly, how did his tweets cause this and how will they worsen the situation?

    Actually, Trump is literally Hitler. There, I said it, and Godwin be damned. And you know you wanted to, you just weren’t brave, like me. Tweeting Hitler, lying Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Nyah, nyah.

    And so is happyfeet. Hitler, I mean.

    Fred Z (05d938)

  17. We must resists TRUMP.

    …… even if everything he pretty much says is on point. I mean, shitty messenger but the message …. oh the message is so on point……

    Anyway NEVERTRUMP!!!!!!!! We must maintain our PRINCIPLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Never mind the Left’s total destruction of our culture, democracy and institutions. Focus on the tweets and his personal mendacity!

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  18. I see that DiFi is running for re-election. The GOP ought to find a nice CATHOLIC Hispanic candidate of repute to run against her, and hammer on her anti-Catholicism. After all the state is about 50% Catholic now.

    Devin Nunes comes to mind.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  19. Don’t be silly, Fred Z. Hitler had a moustache.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Hitler was a lot smarter, too.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  21. than Trump, I mean, not hf.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  22. Devin needs to bone up on his Spanish to run as a Hispanic.

    That is my view.

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  23. We must resists TRUMP.

    …… even if everything he pretty much says is on point. I mean, crappy messenger but the message …. oh the message is so on point……

    Anyway NEVERTRUMP!!!!!!!! We must maintain our PRINCIPLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Never mind the Left’s total destruction of our culture, democracy and institutions. Focus on the tweets and his personal mendacity!

    Poor Biggie (987b85)

  24. I know this will be unpopular with Patterico, but California, please secede.

    NJRob (7f4bec)

  25. Good grief. This is what happens when in a deep blue state compelled to continually prove its progressive bona fides.

    Dana (023079) — 10/10/2017 @ 3:37 pm

    Fine lady, this state is so blue, it’s difficult to tell where the ocean stops and the coastline begins.

    Bill H (383c5d)

  26. Wait, BeenBurned said this is a phony issue, that “criminalizing” this had driven the wrong behavior, yada, yada, ba-blah, ba-blah.

    What a crock.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. Californians deserve what they get. Next, outlaw gas powered cars. It will take a month to go from San Diego to Portland. Idiots keep voting for idiots.

    jim (557eae)

  28. You can’t fool hispanic people with a Lusophone. The portuguese posse (Nunes, Valadao, Costa, more perhaps) might be the swing on the daca vote.

    urbanleftbehind (5abba7)

  29. My pilot dad was told if the sky is brown and the ground is blue you are upside down or in CA.

    Pinandpuller (352bb8)

  30. It is far worse to call a Ms. a Mr. than to infect someone with HIV? Let California secede.

    AZ Bob (f60c80)

  31. Californians deserve what they get. Next, outlaw gas powered cars. It will take a month to go from San Diego to Portland. Idiots keep voting for idiots.

    jim (557eae) — 10/10/2017 @ 6:10 pm

    Sigh. Sure would be nice if Jim knew something of the people he was talking to. Does he understand that this is a site populated with intelligent people on both sides of the aisle, not a small number of them from California?

    Jim, we are well aware of the problem. Thanks for your attention, both now and in the future.

    Bill H (383c5d)

  32. Throw off your chains, Bill H, and come to Chicago like happyfeet did. We have water and beautiful Fall weather and we just repealed the sweetened drink tax.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. I don’t know, Bill. It’s arguable that California voters do deserve much of what comes our way… after all, we continue to elect these pathetic excuses for human beings.

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  34. The same are outvoted, consider that ubernut is being enlisted to take on Feinstein, will the gop even out up a challenger?

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. Deleon, they probably don’t even need to contest across party, and that is the reality you ignore in the other thread.

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. I don’t know, Bill. It’s arguable that California voters do deserve much of what comes our way… after all, we continue to elect these pathetic excuses for human beings.

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5) — 10/10/2017 @ 8:59 pm

    Oh, I get that Herr Oberst. There has been a lot of silliness in the last 40 years. The last major conservative victory was Prop 13. Our last best chance was when Tom McClintock ran for Governor to replace Gray Davis. Good God, Ahhhnold proved himself to be so weak and puny………

    Bill H (383c5d)

  37. Bill, this site may be populated with intelligent people but that does not mean california is. If california was populated by intelligent people they would not continue to elect idiots. So, they deserve what happens to them.

    jim (557eae)

  38. Throw off your chains, Bill H, and come to Chicago like happyfeet did. We have water and beautiful Fall weather and we just repealed the sweetened drink tax.

    nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2017 @ 8:59 pm

    Two considerations, NK:
    1) I have a real fear that my Second Amendment rights are not respected there. I would just be trading one bad circumstance for another.
    2) My health issues are almost as serious as the Rev’s. At least here my doctors know me, and vis-versa.

    Otherwise, Chitown would be an excellent change of scenery. I never worried about the soda tax anyway- poison of choice is iced tea, no sweetener, no lemon, no frou-frou flavoring, and strong enough to melt your socks.

    Bill H (383c5d)

  39. Like moving from Bucharest to east Berlin, just another kitchen appliance.

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. Bill, this site may be populated with intelligent people but that does not mean california is. If california was populated by intelligent people they would not continue to elect idiots. So, they deserve what happens to them.

    jim (557eae) — 10/10/2017 @ 9:25 pm

    Let me try to break this down a little for you. It might surprise you that SoCal once tyou get south of LA is relatively conservative. Much of the central and northern portions of the state lean conservative. Where you find the majority liberals are in the Los Angeles Basin, San Francisco Bay Area, and Sacramento and it’s environs.

    You see, the problem comes with population. San Diego, even with it’s relatively large minority population is a fairly conservative city. If you need proof, you need look no further than our last Mayoral election, and the reason for it. Not perfect by any means, but still a hell of a lot more conservative than, say, Villaraigosa of LA.

    The problem is we here in the south are completely outvoted. Lots more people in LA than SD.

    So, no, I don’t deserve what’s coming my way. And if your suggestion is sell the house and move, in my physical and financial condition, just not practical.

    Bill H (383c5d)

  41. Chicken in a car an the car won’t go. Hot and humid as 40 hells in the Summer, and the hawk cutting to the bone and blowing snow drifts 20 feet deep in the Winter time. No thanks.

    I’ll take the hurricanes and the irksome damn Yankee snowbirds and stay warm and happy in SW Florida on the beautiful Gulf Coast.

    ropelight (d782cb)

  42. They will say that the pronoun law only affects a small set of people, the elderly in homes. That’s just the camel’s nose under the tent though.

    Think I’ll start looking for services that will stockpile my own blood if I need it.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  43. You know who gets real upset by being mistaken for a women? An effeminate man. You can sometimes bluff your way out by doubling back and really hitting on “man” if you accidentally said “ma’am”.

    Pinandpuller (c8c8b2)

  44. The problem with the pronoun law is that it’s a law. A business exists to serve its customers. If those customers expect to be addressed a certain way, the business can choose to require its employees to do so or simply state that that “service” is not offered and the customer can go elsewhere to find services tgat are more in line with their values. The state has no business being involved in any of this. But lawyers gotta law and stuff, so drinks all around.

    CFarleigh (a06bdc)

  45. Why did the chicken get in teh car?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. WTF?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. Jimmy Crack Corn Chicken in teh Car

    I likes teh chicken, you likes teh steak
    Teh chicken look good on my plate
    Jus’ pass de bottle when I gets dry
    An’ brush away de blue-tail fly

    Chicken in teh car an’ I don’t care
    Chicken in teh car an’ I don’t care
    Chicken in teh car an’ I don’t care
    Ol’ Massa’s gone away

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. Apparently, health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient, is a big law enforcement concern in California, and harsher penalties are called for to deter this scourge on society, particularly in light of the diminution of federal law enforcement assistance to sanctuary states.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. This is the same brand of dipsticks who kept San Francisco from shutting down bathhouses in the early ’80s as a way to lower the spread of AIDS . Same brand but not the same people, because those are all dead.

    nk (dbc370)

  50. And that jackalope, Meryl silverman, ended up the head of afar, which in the Kevin baci
    Way is tied to Harvey Einstein.

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. i agree about the chicken

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. Yes merwyn (at last look, consider the wachowskis)

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. What do you mean with the whole chicken I a car thing? I know not to leave fried chicken in a car on a hot sunny day (spoils within an hour), but…

    urbanleftbehind (5abba7)

  54. “A Car, A Chicken, And A Safe Word”. Special Sneak Preview In Selected San Francisco Theaters, Three Days Only. A Wiener, Wiener and Weinstein Production, Scot Wiener and Anthony Wiener, Executive Producers.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. What do you mean with the whole chicken I a car thing? urbanleftbehind (5abba7) — 10/11/2017 @ 6:29 am

    “Playing chicken” in a car?

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  56. Q: why did the chicken get in the car?

    A: he was late for his dentist appointment.

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  57. Q: what did the bumper sticker on teh chicken’s car say?

    A: “NO fat chicks”

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  58. This is a burning question in San Francisco: What is the difference between erotic and kinky?
    Answer: When you use a feather, it’s erotic. When you use the whole chicken, it’s kinky.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. Q: Why do chicken coups have 2 doors?

    A: Because if they had 4 doors they’d be chicken sedans

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  60. Vun day, Sven teh Norwegian chicken vas valking down da street ven who did he see driving a brand new Chevrolet? It vas Ole. Ole pulled up to him vit a vide smile.

    “Ole, vere did ya get dat car?” Sven asked.

    “Ole, vere did ya get dat car?” Sven asked.

    “Lena gave it to me”.

    “She gave it to you? I knew she vas sveet on you, but dis?”

    “Vell, let me tell you vat happened. Ve vere driving out on county road 6, in da middle of novere. Lena pulled off da road into da woods. She parked, got out of da car, trew off alla her clothes and said, “Ole take vatever you vant.”…So I took da car”

    “Ole, you’re a smart rooster, dem clothes never voulda fit ya.”

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  61. Damn you (j/k)! The day you type a clean usable link, I get firewalled/404’d.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  62. A French rooster and a Mexican rooster were strutting on Hollywood & Vine when a Rhode Island Red chicken passed by. A strong wind blew her tail feathers straight up for a moment, prompting the French rooster to say “ah, c’est la vie!” The Mexican rooster responded, “Yo tambien!”

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  63. I, for one, got it, felipe.

    nk (dbc370)

  64. The problem with California, in part is its seed pods sprout in other states like an Andromeda infestation.

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. Reinventing his born- againness..does he still drill ‘teach’ at Pepperdine?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/354868-ken-starr-praises-muellers-trump-russia-probe

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  66. A Spanish-speaking gentleman goes to Macy’s to buy some socks, but he does not know what they’re called in English. He asks the young lady at Men’s Clothing, “Calcetines?” She wrinkles her brow and points to shirts. He says, “No, no camisas. Calcetines”. She points to pants. “No, no pantalones. Calcetines.” To make a long story short, as they’re wandering through the aisles, he sees the rack with socks. He shouts, “Eso si que es!” And the young lady says,”If you knew how to spell it, why didn’t you say so from the start?”

    nk (dbc370)

  67. Fox doesn’t have the resources to do this story. It’s feeding time for Yellowcakers..http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/10/irans-secret-sites-linked-to-nuclear-weapons-development-revealed.html

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  68. 70… that’s a good one, nk

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)

  69. Well the standard term is medias, so dialect gets in the way.

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. Thank you. I’ll be here all week.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Greetings:

    Me, I’m thinking the world don’t need another Weiner.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  72. Greetings, Ben burn: ( #8 (b3d5ab) —10/10/2017 @ 4:09 pm )

    Rock Hudson couldn’t get car insurance in California because he kept getting rear-ended.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  73. Its not a coincidence that ptogrssive politics enabled weinsteinnis is it:

    https://www.saulmontes-bradley.com/catalonia/

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. This actually happened a number of years ago at my former store: a tourist from somewhere in Latin America asked one of the associates where the “ropas interiores”* were. Unfortunately she spoke no Spanish, and he spoke no English, so seeing she had no idea of what he meant, he started to take off his pants in the middle of the sales floor so he could show her what he wanted….

    *My Spanish spelling skills are even worse than my Spanish speaking skills.

    kishnevi (57338f)

  75. “In the finest tradition of the Cultural Revolution, activists are driving art galleries out of the Boyle Heights district near downtown Los Angeles because they might actually improve the Latino neighborhood. They’ve have been harassing the owners with protests, racial taunts, boycotts and vandalism. One gallery was spray-painted with the lovely inclusive message of “F**k White Art.” Latino artists at the galleries are denounced as “coconuts” — brown on the outside, white on the inside.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

    harkin (7dcbff)

  76. It’s really a form of competitor sabotage by the Latino artists, who are at a disadvantage because spray paint cannot compete with a brush and palette on canvas.

    nk (dbc370)

  77. No, you got it right, kish.

    narciso (d1f714)

  78. 79.

    The assumption is that acquiring a bunch of trendy hipsters as residents would improve the neighborhood.

    Would it, in fact?

    kishnevi (57338f)

  79. Chicken walks into an auto parts store and says to the counterman “I’d like a set of wiper blades for my ’85 Olds Cutlass 442 with the 307.” Counterman thinks for a minute, then replies, “with the 305 OK, they never came with a 307″. The chicken irritatedly responds, “whatever… I’d like a set of wiper blades for my ’85 Olds Cutlass 442″. Counterman grins and says, “sure… sounds like a fair trade to me.”

    Colonel Haiku (7680d5)


  80. The assumption is that acquiring a bunch of trendy hipsters as residents would improve the neighborhood.

    Isn’t that just gentrification, kishnevi? In Philly the hipsters moved in to the Northern Liberties section and a new redeveloped high-end neighborhood was born. They literally drove out the blacks and Hispanics with high rents, high priced eateries and places like Whole Foods instead of Aldi’s or the dollar store. Plus now they have police patrolling all over the place. The former residents up and moved to a South Philly area and reestablished their crime ridden ghetto down there. It took a few years but the transition was a wonder to behold. And area that was a ghetto turned into a first class urban center and a South Philly neighborhood formerly of Polish/Jewish/Italians was devolved into one of the worst areas in Philly.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  81. Greetings, Rev.Hoagie: ( #84 ® (6bbda7) — 10/11/2017 @ 9:40 am )

    Thanks, Rev, you just triggered my Bronx of the ’60s and ’70s memories. Funny, one doesn’t hear much of those kind of stories these progressive days.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  82. 84. Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 10/11/2017 @ 9:40 am

    And area that was a ghetto turned into a first class urban center and a South Philly neighborhood formerly of Polish/Jewish/Italians was devolved into one of the worst areas in Philly.

    85. 11B40 (6abb5c) — 10/11/2017 @ 12:34 pm

    Thanks, Rev, you just triggered my Bronx of the ’60s and ’70s memories. Funny, one doesn’t hear much of those kind of stories these progressive days.

    You on;y heard or witnessed the part about neighborhoods getting bad then. It moved north in the Bronx at a rate of about 400 feet a year. I think things stablized in the 1980s, aided nbby new immigrants.

    Gentrification didn’t happen till at least the 1990s.

    Of course, incumbent politicians don’t like gentrification, and theer are other losers from a reduction in the crime rate.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  83. Sen. Weiner is my state Senator, and I voted for him in the general election because *on the issue of housing*, he is substantially more supportive of housing construction than his opponent in the general election, who is one of those San Franciscans who believes that if we force all construction to be ‘affordable housing’, and don’t build anything new in neighborhoods that object to new housing construction, the problem will solve itself.

    That said, I disagree with both of these bills.

    I would handle the senior transgender patient issue by allowing patients to sue the health care provider for pain and suffering caused by misgendering, and by allowing punitive damages in cases of patterns of wilfull repetition; this would make it a *civil* issue between the patient and their health care provider (rather than a criminal one), would provide some sort of redress for the vulnerable elderly, and would use economic pressure to get employers to make their employees treat people well.

    I think that the change to the law regarding transmission of AIDS is *wrong*.

    When I’ve argued that latter point online with people who support the change, the answer I got is that the *stigma* against being HIV+ is now more harmful to the lives of those with HIV than the disease, which is treatable as a chronic illness is.

    I acknowledge that the stigma is a problem, but … it’s a fatal disease. Honestly I think that *deliberately* spreading it should be treated as attempted murder.

    aphrael (b953f5)

  84. Bill H, at 42: San Diego County still turns in majorities for Democrats in statewide offices and Presidential elections; it’s more conservative than LA or the Bay, but it’s still left of center overall.

    aphrael (b953f5)

  85. Greetings:

    At the risk of abusing your hospitality, there’s something that I would like to share.

    Earlier, I was watching the news on the France24 English-language broadcast. Apparently, the African-Kenyans are having a bit of difficulty with their Presidential election in spite of the personal and direct advice of our own most recent former President Barack Hussein Obama. The highlight of the report was a man holding up a sign that read, “This is Kenya. This isn’t Uganda.”.

    And as the zoftig lady used to say, “So it goes.”.

    11B40 (6abb5c)


  86. I would handle the senior transgender patient issue by allowing patients to sue the health care provider for pain and suffering caused by misgendering, and by allowing punitive damages in cases of patterns of wilfull repetition; this would make it a *civil* issue between the patient and their health care provider (rather than a criminal one), would provide some sort of redress for the vulnerable elderly, and would use economic pressure to get employers to make their employees treat people well.

    So calling a male who is a male by a male pronoun is a punishable transgression by law? Anywhere but Californication the truth will set you free. There the truth will get you sued, fined and jailed. You are aware of who George Orwell was are you not?

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  87. Hoagie, under current California law, for *health care workers* to use a pronoun other than the pronoun requested by the patient is now a criminal offense. I don’t think it should be. And I’m aware of and sympathetic to the concern — imagine a trans* man who is in a nursing home where everyone keeps referring to him as *her*. Pyschologically, for him, that is extremely damaging — but I would prefer to resolve the problem using civil actions; this isn’t the sort of thing that criminal law should attach to.

    aphrael (b953f5)

  88. Me: There are two words I don’t want you to use anymore. One is kinky and the other one is raunchy.

    nk: OK, what are the words?

    Pinandpuller (528944)

  89. Rev. Hoagie

    It’s not my intention to demean your city, but is it true what Sherrod Small said, that Philly is just Baltimore with electricity?

    Pinandpuller (528944)

  90. You’re only as old as the gender you feel.

    Pinandpuller (528944)

  91. Greetings, Pinandpuller: ( #94 (528944) — 10/11/2017 @ 11:58 pm )

    I grew up in the Bronx of the ’50s and ’60s and back there and then there was a bit of folk wisdom that went:

    First prize is an all expense paid week in Philly. Second prize is two all expense paid weeks in Philly.

    11B40 (6abb5c)


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