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8/2/2017

Stephen Miller Rips Shameless Jim Acosta to Shreds on Immigration

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:51 pm

What a performance. Miller comes off as smart and like someone who knows what he is talking about. Meanwhile, Acosta comes off as preening, foolish, and rude.

Y’all can televise more briefings if you’re going to put up this caliber of spokesman.

By the way, Miller is spot on when it comes to people learning English. Acosta is so clueless it’s embarrassing.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

82 Responses to “Stephen Miller Rips Shameless Jim Acosta to Shreds on Immigration”

  1. Now that I have listened to it twice, Miller could have done with a tad less of the whole “that is so insulting!” shtick.

    But still. Miles above Sanders or the dummox Trump. I don’t know a lot about him, but he’s clearly sharp.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. Some people deal with questions which have planted axioms better than others. Gingrich and Coulter are really good, and this Miller guy is pretty hot, too.

    Richard Aubrey (0d7df4)

  3. He’s from the belly of the beast, Santa Monica. In high school and at Duke, he proudly and resolutely stood up to progressives, a lonely endeavor. He is a bit over the top and sometimes manufactures controversy. His lefty parents are wondering where they went wrong.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  4. “Anyone still want to argue against my position that the White House briefing shouldn’t be televised?” wrote the well-known conservative blogger Allahpundit at Hot Air.

    lol could this slimy hot air ass maggot be more of a worm

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  5. I would not allow reporters in the White House at all.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. there’s no such thing as reporters

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. But Acosta did not behave like a reporter. Not the least little bit. So maybe he’d be ok?

    nk (dbc370)

  8. tis good sport to blood the likes of him for the amusement of the cameras

    the people, they are duly edified

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. For the full specter of self-delusion, check out Acosta’s Twitter feed and marvel at all the progressives who think he got the better of Miller in the exchange.

    JVW (42615e)

  10. Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim times 10 to the 23rd power.

    Miller w/t bark off, aka DeForest-ation; breaks Star Trek’s Dr. McCoy [DeForest Kelley] record for most number of ‘Jims’ spoken on air in an hour of teevee.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  11. How does Acosta have press credentials? He obviously wants it to be all about him and not informing the public as to the government’s positions.

    NJRob (1f95bf)

  12. No matter what CNN does, it will still have the same number, and kind, of mouthbreathers for its audience.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. CSPAN has a longer version of the video on their Twitter feed. Right after the video that Patterico posted ends, an older African-American woman reporter inquires of Miller:

    “Are you targeting the African-American community. Now you brought it up again. You said you wanted to have a conversation and not target. Is it going to be a target here? You’re saying to the African-American community, are you going to target. I’m not trying to be funny, but you keep saying. . . .”

    Now I confess that I have no idea what the hell she was trying to ask here, but Miller seemed to interpret it as question as to whether the administration would be working with the African-American community to make sure they had the opportunity to compete for jobs that had recently mostly gone to immigrants, and he assured her that they would. I just love, though, how amid all the talk about this immigration change would affect the Hispanic and Muslim and Asian communities, this reporter had to make sure that the black community had a piece of the action too. It goes a long way towards demonstrating that progressives are big on tribalism and seek to split everyone up into categories.

    JVW (42615e)

  14. JVW, I don’t think progressives are seeking to split everyone up into categories; I think progressives recognize that people *are* already split up into different groups, and that as a result of that, people’s group membership results in them having incredibly different experiences of the world — which can only be fixed if we can recognize the differences in experience and work to remedy them.

    aphrael (3f0569)

  15. My larger point though, aphrael, is that I think that not only are progressives not interested in bringing people together across the disparate interest groups, but modern progressivism is structured so that they benefit from everyone staying in their own lane and not trying to venture outside of it. You might accuse me of undue cynicism, maybe rightfully so, but I think the last thing that progressives want to see is African-Americans and conservatives unit on immigration or school choice or other areas where perhaps progressivism hasn’t served their interests.

    JVW (42615e)

  16. By the way, Miller is spot on when it comes to people learning English.

    More spotty: “You Are Exempt From The English Language Requirement, But Are Still Required To Take The Civics Test If You Are: Age 50 or older at the time of filing for naturalization and have lived as a permanent resident (green card holder) in the United States for 20 years (commonly referred to as the “50/20” exception).”

    https://www.uscis.gov/…citizenship/citizenship…naturalization/exceptions-accommodations

    Y’all can televise more briefings if you’re going to put up this caliber of spokesman.

    LOL Now who’s sounding a bit Herr Zeller. 😉

    How Stephen Miller Rode White Rage from Duke’s Campus to Trump’s West Wing

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/stephen-miller-duke-donald-trump

    “Don’t be stupid; be a smarty; come and join the Nazi Party!” – Mel Brooks ‘The Producers’ 1968

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. This is from the fellow who still believes crystal magnums story. Ha

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. @13. Watched it live. Acosta let it get personal; his parents came to the U.S. from ‘Cuber’ around the time of the missile crisis. April Ryan[?] was asking for clarification that the A/A community wasn’t getting squeezed out. But by that time, it was all more heat than light:

    … the diversion for not televising Fearless Leader doing a signing ceremony on Russian sanctions.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  19. Well my people came through Ellis island south, the freedom tower, so stop talking about things you knowcnithing about, an uncle never made it hare lost in the straits

    narciso (d1f714)

  20. Ah yes, April Ryan — wasn’t she the one who was asking the Hillary campaign for talking points to take to her television appearances last fall?

    I just looked her up. I described her as an “older African-American woman” and it turns out that she is only two years older than I am. Sigh.

    JVW (42615e)

  21. “Our opponents, the media and the whole world, will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.” – Stephen Miller

    LOL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  22. Interesting Acosta was,basenghi over wet foot dry foot.

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. @20– Believe you mean CNN’s DNC flack Donna Brazile.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. Miller comes off as smart and like someone who knows what he is talking about.

    But the CBS Evening News indicated that he didn’t, because the poem on the Statue of Liberty dates back to the very beginning. And why not? That’s what was what was true then, It was just plain factual.

    I am not sure it was actually inscribed right away, though. The poem was written in connection with a fundraiser to raise money for the pedestal.

    Acosta comes off as preening, foolish, and rude.

    He’s arguing too hard.

    Sammy Finkelman (86325b)

  25. I’ll offer this trade to this CNN tool and any Progressive: I’ll give you Lazarus’ poem adopted into statute if you will give me the same for “In God We Trust.”

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  26. Is Stephen Miller from New York?

    nk (dbc370)

  27. You ca read cohans grim faerie tale for examples.

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. Steven Miller should read Marshall McLuhan’s ‘The Medium Is the Message.’ The way Miller presents himself is much too ‘hot’ for a ‘cool’ medium like TV.

    His self presentation may be marginally more apropos for a closed door press briefing, but it will never play well to a broadcast audience. The way he comes off makes jerks like Acosta look better by comparison.

    ropelight (eaa946)

  29. I agree, ropelight. He made good points that were overshadowed by his irritating delivery.

    DRJ (15874d)

  30. However, his in-your-face style probably appeals to the only person who matters in the White House hierarchy.

    DRJ (15874d)

  31. Couldn’t be helped. He was in that situation covered by the maxim: “Never argue with an idiot. People watching won’t be able to tell the difference.” Except that he had to, and I think he did out-bull Acosta.

    nk (dbc370)

  32. You can’t be civil to these people. Acosta has long since removed all doubt, the sane for Ryan pizza, stalker Ben jacobs

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. You can’t be civil to these people.

    Everyone can be civil, it’s not that hard. And calling them “these people” is an example of the partisan, tribal Us vs Them approach championed by the Left and adopted by the Trump Right. If the President and his spokespeople can’t be civil to everyone, then they can’t represent everyone.

    DRJ (15874d)

  34. I loved how he called it the “Statue of Liberty Law of the Land”.

    Lyrics Don't Matter (6b323c)

  35. Allowing Acosta equal time for multiple minutes to make his little speeches and move on to a new smear every time Miller shot down the previous one was a mistake. Let him ask a question and a follow-up or two but giving this idiot all that time was exactly what he wanted, even though he looked the fool.

    BTW – The poem The New Colossus was written in 1883 as part of an effort to raise money for the SOL pedestal. The French statue was set on the pedestal in 1886 and the American poem was engraved on it in 1903.

    Also btw – at the massive 1886 dedication, the poem was not referenced at all.

    Also btw – the author Emma Lazarus was a fanatical Zionist and her poem clearly was influenced by Jews fleeing the Russian pogroms. Ask any liberal if her poem also applies to Israel.

    harkin (536957)

  36. “Acosta comes off as preening, foolish, and rude..”

    Rudeness is BIGLY here. I just want to hear a rational explanation…pointing at warts and asking why you decorate them instead of hiding..is…pride?

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  37. Caution. Facts you knew already..

    Esquire
    Miller doesn’t know dick about Emma Lazarus and the Statue of Liberty. She wrote the poem, “The New Colossus,” from which the famous lines on the Statue of Liberty’s pedestal were taken in 1883 for the purpose of raising funds for … wait for it … the Statue of Liberty.

    How do you put this uninformed goon in front of the camera? Jesus, these really are the fcking mole people.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  38. Oh. Harkin knows…grudgingly.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  39. Nascent beginnings for Goebbels at that #16..

    “(Duke) gave Miller the perfect opportunity to hone the right-wing political views he had espoused since adolescence. His passion for American exceptionalism and racial superiority eventually led him to jobs in Washington, D.C., first as a spokesperson for two right-wing members of Congress, Michele Bachmann and John Shadegg, and then as a policy adviser and communications director for conservative Alabama senator Jeff Sessions, now the U.S. attorney general. Sessions, with Miller at his side, almost single-handedly killed the 2013 bipartisan immigration-reform bill that would have created a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented immigrants.”

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  40. who gives a crap about her stupid poem it’s all we can do to keep these feral illegals from raping the statue

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. It goes a long way towards demonstrating that progressives are big on tribalism and seek to split everyone up into categories.

    It’s just ward-healing writ large.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  42. “these feral illegals from raping the statue”

    Are you 2nd generation American yet?

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  43. for the purpose of raising funds for … wait for it … the Statue of Liberty.

    No. For raising funds for the BASE. The Statue was already here. But putting the poem on the base came up later, after she had died. It was not engraved on the base until 1903, TWENTY years after her death.

    Wikipedia

    “The New Colossus” was the first entry read at the exhibit’s opening, but was forgotten and played no role at the opening of the statue in 1886. In 1901, Lazarus’s friend Georgina Schuyler began an effort to memorialize Lazarus and her poem, which succeeded in 1903 when a plaque bearing the text of the poem was put on the inner wall of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.[4]

    Kevin M (752a26)

  44. Your rude Kevin..pointing out that little fact is gonna give you a rash.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  45. I just can’t handle ‘rudeness’

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  46. It was also a far different time.

    1. The West was wide open and empty, and it was a national objective to fill it up with Europeans.
    2. There was very little in the form of public welfare, other than sanitation and other civic programs.
    3. The robber baron era was consumptive of workers.

    As a result, immigration from Europe was wide open, so long as you checked in at the gate and had no communicable disease. I imagine TB would have been a problem. The statue BECAME synonymous with immigration due to the location of Ellis Island, the NY entry point. Only after that did the association of “The New Colossus” make sense.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  47. 38 – Even though you wrote “Esquire” you really should use quotation marks for quotes and if possible provide a link.

    For a second there I wasn’t aware Esquire had actually posted something so infantile and un-journalistic.

    harkin (36810b)

  48. The West is still wide open and empty. Have you been to As lately?

    But I see where you’re going..

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  49. I’ll give you Lazarus’ poem adopted into statute if you will give me the same for “In God We Trust.”

    Or let me use “e pluribus unum” in the multicultural debate.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  50. Lol..ok Harkin I’ll try to accommodate. You do know how to find it without hyperlink?

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  51. btw – It’s illustrative of how the msm/leftosphere operates that all the leading msm news sites are casting Miller as trashing the poem and the spirit of the Statue Of Liberty when all he really did was point out that Acosta was talking out his backside once again.

    harkin (36810b)

  52. No offense narciso. I recall you talking about how important the Mariano Boat lift was for you.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  53. The West is still wide open and empty. Have you been to Az lately?

    A lot of AZ, NV and NM are federal reserves of some kind. And desert. But in 1880, “west” meant “Minnesota”, “Dakota”, or “Wyoming” which are not deserts. Or the west coast, but that was unreachable for most until the Union Pacific was finished. Many of them helped build it, including many of my Irish ancestors who settled in California in the 1880’s.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  54. If I was a supermercado owner, I would stop Happy at the door senfeld episode style and say we don’t need your stinkin money, go get your agua De pepino com limon elsewhere.

    urbanleftbehind (dbf2bf)

  55. i love the big flavors of mi gente

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. Although the Lifeboat scenario applies, I don’t think it’s proper to whack people trying to get on the boat with an oar.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  57. Yeah. Let the Soup Nazi deny illegals service, happy feet.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  58. If illegals signed a conservative loyalty oath we’d have a river of immigrants.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  59. Gawd I’m rude..

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  60. Oh, great. Ben burn punched in. There goes the thread.

    nk (dbc370)

  61. You liked being Kingfish.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  62. 52.”Lol..ok Harkin I’ll try to accommodate. You do know how to find it without hyperlink?”

    If you really could not divine from my second sentence that I had found the Esquire article then that thing sailing over your head was my point.
    If it was just snark, try harder.

    1) If you quote someone use quotation marks. I learned this in grade school English before Al Gore created the interwebs.

    2) If you quote a piece available on the internet, provide a link. It’s called courtesy and if that escapes you, so be it.

    harkin (36810b)

  63. Ron Burgundy, lol.

    Loved it. And it’s a great illustration about how acquiring a deep knowledge of your subject comes in very handy in times of stress.

    He did lighten up a couple of times in further comments, so there were chuckles, so he did act like a good winner.

    (RE CBS vs. Miller: Wikipedia btw says the poem was written in a competition to raise money for the pedestal but was not put on the statue until later. So you’re both right, girls!)

    Patricia (5fc097)

  64. There’s this guy who uses the Chinese massage place, down the block, from midnight to 8:00 am. Too scruffy and ugly to be one of the “girls”. I suspect he does something online similar to Ben burn.

    nk (dbc370)

  65. Now that’s just rude nk

    Aphrael: nk is being rude..

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  66. “) If you quote a piece available on the internet, provide a link. It’s called courtesy and if that escapes you, so be it.”

    Even if everyone declares it’s a verboten subject/source?I see.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  67. “Y’all can televise more briefings if you’re going to put up this caliber of spokesman.”

    I does make one wonder why this caliber of spokesman isn’t the norm.

    The Acosta exchange was, indeed, a high point, but the entire briefing is well worth watching.

    By the way, I love the “y’all.”

    ThOR (c9324e)

  68. #42, KM, it’s ‘ward-heeler.’ The reference is to a political machine’s operative (almost exclusively Democrat) who frequently walks an urban ward (precinct) getting to know residents, registering them, doing favors, and making sure they vote the right way on election day.

    ropelight (eaa946)

  69. Is this on topic?

    Sen Levine
    I’ve always supported merit-based immigration. I think we should always want to attract the best and brightest to the United States.

    “Unfortunately, the other part of this proposal would reduce legal immigration by half, including many immigrants who work legally in our agriculture, tourism and service industries.

    “South Carolina’s number one industry is agriculture and tourism is number two. If this proposal were to become law, it would be devastating to our state’s economy which relies on this immigrant workforce.

    “South Carolina’s agriculture and tourism industry advertise for American workers and want to fill open positions with American workers. Unfortunately, many of these advertised positions go unfilled. Hotels, restaurants, golf courses and farmers will tell you this proposal – to cut legal immigration in half — would put their business in peril.

    “Finally, I fear this proposal will not only hurt our agriculture, tourism and service economy in South Carolina, it incentivizes more illegal immigration as positions go unfilled. After dealing with this issue for more than a decade, I know that when you restrict legal labor to employers it incentivizes cheating.”

    #####

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  70. Re: Ben burn (d43e24) — 8/3/2017 @ 8:59 am

    Senator Levine: “South Carolina’s agriculture and tourism industry advertise for American workers and want to fill open positions with American workers. Unfortunately, many of these advertised positions go unfilled.”

    Yep, when you’re paying minimum wage, that’s exactly what happens. But, don’t let economics get in the way of your argument. Feel the burn, Ben.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  71. Waivers signed for Mira Lago employees due to shortages is the Big Eonomics Lenny.

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  72. Orwell said some barn animals were more equal..

    Ben burn (d43e24)

  73. First thing of course this proposal illustrates the truism – it is a truism – that people who against illegal immigratio are against legal immigration, too.

    That whole talking point about being illegal immigration and not legal immigrationn is a BIG LIE.

    People who are against illegal immigration are aaginst legal immigration and epeople who are in favor of legal immigration are in favor of illegal immigration also.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  74. Yes. All men are created equal, but some are more equal than others. That’s Miller’s position.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  75. Someone in the vein of Richard T. Jones or a pristine-of-rep pre-AG Jeff Sessions should have interrupted both men and said “either darn way that poem is not our constitution and that France saddled us with that monstrosity so that all the poles, squareheads, guineas, wogs, dp, etc. would come here instead of across the Vogt mountains or crashing on the banks of the Cote Azul”.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  76. KM, it’s ‘ward-heeler.’

    Yeah, I thought it didn’t look right. Should have checked with The Google. Still, the point stands.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  77. Sammy,

    are you for the collapse of our nation? Because that’s the end result of unfettered immigration.

    Locke (c73c64)

  78. @78/@81

    “Some apes, it seems, are more equal than others.” – George Taylor [Charlton Heston] ‘Planet of the Apes’ 1968

    DCSCA (797bc0)

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