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7/14/2017

Trump: The Wall Needs to Be Transparent So Nobody Gets Hit on the Head with a Giant Sack of Drugs

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:49 am

Hahaha this is awesome.

The following are excerpts, as prepared and released on Thursday by the White House, from a conversation aboard Air Force One between President Trump and members of the press corps as they flew to Paris on Wednesday night.

You got that? What you’re about to read was “prepared and released . . . by the White House.” So don’t be giving me any of that #FAKENEWS!! crap.

On the border wall:

Q You were joking about solar, right?

THE PRESIDENT: No, not joking, no. There is a chance that we can do a solar wall. We have major companies looking at that. Look, there’s no better place for solar than the Mexico border — the southern border. And there is a very good chance we can do a solar wall, which would actually look good. But there is a very good chance we could do a solar wall.

One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.

And I’ll give you an example. As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don’t see them — they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It’s over. As crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall. But we have some incredible designs.

Hahahahahaha. What Trump is saying here is pure madcap insanity. In other words, it sounds like Donald Trump.

Our president is Homer Simpson, without Homer Simpson’s charm.

By the way, the latest #FAKENEWS!! Russia story is that one of the other participants in Junior’s meeting was ” a former Soviet counterintelligence officer who is suspected by some U.S. officials of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence.” Who the hell knows if it’s true, but the interesting part to me is that if it is true, Trump defenders will shrug it off.

I speculated a few days ago that the New York Times was following the Breitbart playbook of dribbling out a little news day by day. But maybe I had it completely backwards. Maybe all the leaks are coming from within the Trump camp, to get people gradually used to the more eye-opening aspects of the story. If on Day One the story had been “Trump campaign manager met with former Soviet counterintelligence agent suspected of current ties to Russian intelligence” then people might have been shocked. But the way this frog is being boiled, we’ll get to the point where there’s video of Trump asking Putin to hack Hillary and people will be saying: “So what? He just wanted the truth!”

Maybe someone would be willing to say that today! You’d be showing Your Leader a great measure of devotion!

AND THE FROG BOILS FURTHER: Looks like the former intelligence officer was once accused of orchestrating an international hacking conspiracy.

Accused is just accused. “The accusations were later withdrawn.” But given the DNC hack, I’m betting you’ll hear more about this.

According to the link, the fella has confirmed he was at the meeting. The news cycle is moving fast. Turn up the heat further, Mr. Chef.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back, which will be the main (only?) place I will be commenting.]

71 Responses to “Trump: The Wall Needs to Be Transparent So Nobody Gets Hit on the Head with a Giant Sack of Drugs”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. Was the former Soviet counterintelligence officer the translator for Veselnitskaya? Not that it matters much —- Boris and Natasha’s overlords obviously ran rings around the Trumpsters. As Instapundit would say, the country’s in the very best of hands.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  3. Almost as dumb as Reagan saying “Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do.” Which happened to be correct in the case of volatile organic hydrocarbons. But that didn’t stop people from calling Reagan an idiot for saying it. In fact people still are ridiculing that statement.

    I don’t think I’d be in a big hurry to emphasize the inherent ridiculousness of needing to be able to observe through a border wall. The one example mentioned does sound a bit silly–almost as silly as using the example of drowning in a 5-gallon bucket to point out what little danger children are in from guns. As absurd as it sounds, just about as many kids under 5 die from one as from the other in a typical year.

    And a person who knew nothing about guns or buckets would probably find that statement ridiculous and ridicule anyone who made it, without any self-reflection.

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  4. Hey, remember when Betsy DeVos used grizzly bears as an example for why there might need to be a gun on a school campus? What an idiot!

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  5. “Transparent” walls are the cutting edge in border security technology. The State of Israel has pioneered the use of transparent walls, using them to great effect along 80% of their borders. It is nice to hear that President Trump plans to use this very effective design.

    There is also talk that President Trump will also use Israel’s cutting edge tunnel detection technology along the border.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  6. yes yes there have to be openings for the birds to fly through

    MSNBC guest says border wall will prevent birds from migrating

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. zero hedge already deconstructed the NBC fake news about the “former Soviet counterintelligence agent”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. Indeed, these wall are a great threat to the ostrich and emu migrations.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  9. i’m glad we caught the design flaw in time

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. http://fincapecod.com
    check the pics of the oysters, happyfeet.
    Pont Judith Squid is a favorite along with Atlantic Halibut

    mg (31009b)

  11. oh gosh saving that

    i’ve never gotten to Boston but NG went twice last year

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. Giant sack of drugs, you say? Perhaps someone with intimate knowledge, based on a meme bandied about by prominent lefties after the first debate last September.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  13. And how long has that fellow been in the country.

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. Thor 5,

    The transparent wall you link as our technological future … is a tall chain link fence with razor wire on top and sensors. I think this is what Congress and Homeland Security want and have been testing for years, but the first atempt was very expensive with limited results.

    The problem with any fence is that it takes too long to respond to the sensors when they go off in remote areas on the Southern border. That’s why now the Border Patrol wants drones, but then what? If the drones track intruders, they will undoubtedly find ways to attack and disable the drones. Then are we going to let drones shoot at people on the border? Bomb them?

    DRJ (15874d)

  15. It works in Israel because their response times are much shorter than ours. We are a much bigger country.

    DRJ (15874d)

  16. Its not such a crazy note, drj what we’re doing now is.

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. If it is akhmetchin, he commissioned the dossier that comey and brennan was passing around like hitcakes

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. How do they leave his paws off the dossier. Which maverick and goose were banding about like cinnamon rolls, he hired fusion who hired steele grasslwy has been on this for months.

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Even chuck Ross buries the lead

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/14/heres-what-we-know-about-the-suspected-ex-soviet-intel-officer-who-attended-trump-tower-meeting

    narciso (d1f714)

  20. President Trump’s the whole reason we’re even getting a wall at all did you ever think of that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  21. Hard to turn a chainlink fence into a solar power generator–particularly with random idiots trying to destroy sections of it to get through it or just because it’s there and they’re bored (I have a partial ownership interest in some property near Edwards Air Force Base, and one thing I’ve learned is that people will steal or wreck anything that is not guarded *and* indestructible if given the opportunity to do so).

    Also, from Mr. Trump’s stream of consciousness quoted above, I think we can expect Wile E. Coyote to be appointed as the new head of INS, and for the contract for the wall on the border to be given to ACME.

    M Scott Eiland (59e34f)

  22. They need a wall with that fury exhaust port like in judge dread. So akhmetchin finishes two streamed if fake news

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. President Trump’s the whole reason we’re even getting a wall at all did you ever think of that

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2017 @ 10:01 am

    There is no more wall yet, and now Trump says he doesn’t want a wall. Apparently he wants a chain link fence.

    DRJ (15874d)

  24. All three veselnitskaya nekhrasov and akhmetchin were all at that capitol hill hearing

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. It really is striking how every Kevin bacon connection wee in that room, except perezov,
    But he hired the team, and yet ardilla.

    narciso (d1f714)

  26. At your 22, Narciso, that theory got tested out at the beach-hugging Sint Maarten airport earlier this week, to the tune of a 57 year old Kiwi woman being blasted back by jet exhaust unto a concrete curb and killed.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  27. special wall

    happyfeet (c91408)

  28. Apparently he wants a chain link fence.

    A chain link fence that is permeable to narcotraffics, apparently.

    I saw that quote, completely out of context, and thought it was satire, invented on the spur of the moment by the person who posted it.

    I guess I was right about the spur of the moment part, at least.

    kishnevi (d764f4)

  29. You see how they miss the story completely, this is,lebowski, the,one that started this circus.

    narciso (e75429)

  30. In the 20th century Soviet Union, every Iron Curtain denizen who was permitted to travel to the West was a government agent. Why should it be different in the Putin Soviet Union?

    nk (dbc370)

  31. So akmetchin was likely the sponsor, but if he was redflagged how could Mrs veselnutskata been allowed into the country.
    Well she was ostensibly here for the magnitsky film, that’s why she sat behind McFaul who does his best Emmett fitzhume impression

    narciso (82af23)

  32. Would it be wrong to suggest transparent aluminum?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  33. The primer is here:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RFERL/status/885891971964915719

    I would say transparastwel (ht Harry harrison]

    narciso (82af23)

  34. confirmed by multiple sources

    I will apply the same standard that’s applied to CNN/NYT: anonymous sources mean a presumption that it’s fake news.

    kishnevi (d764f4)

  35. It should be 300 feet high with a freeway on top, and be built by captured illegals. Then when the Chinese come to visit, we can show them what a border wall should REALLY look like!

    Kevin M (752a26)

  36. Zerohedge and Co. seem unwilling to acknowledge Occam’s Razor here: that Fusion GPS and whatever Russian backers it had was trying to play both sides of the street.

    kishnevi (d764f4)

  37. MSNBC guest says border wall will prevent birds from migrating

    “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  38. Fusion GPS and whatever Russian backers it had was trying to play both sides of the street.

    More like the Russians benefit from American dysfunction. “More popcorn, Boris?”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  39. Well yes but frozen and without wings.

    narciso (82af23)

  40. Zinoviev he was heard saying.

    narciso (82af23)

  41. It resembles philby abramchik network.

    narciso (82af23)

  42. That was a Ukrainian spy ring, dangled to mi6, so the story goes.

    narciso (82af23)

  43. @34/@38: Comrades: Zero Hedge’s content has been classified as conspiratorial, anti-establishment, and economically pessimistic, and has been criticized for presenting extreme and sometimes pro-Russian views.
    ________

    Today’s Beldar The Bitter ‘Watergate, Watergate, Watergate’ Words Of Wonder:

    “No, seriously, National security. We had to get information for national security grounds.” – President Nixon’s “break-in” rationale for the Ellsberg psychiatrist office burglary while discussing paying hush money to Watergate burglars with w/John Dean & HR Haldeman, Secret White House Oval Office tapes, March 21, 1973

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. Many of them emigrated to the west where they delivered dezinformatyam

    narciso (82af23)

  45. Disco duck is so predictable.

    narciso (82af23)

  46. SO predictable

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  47. 35. Would it be wrong to suggest transparent aluminum?

    We need to save it for the nuclear wessels.

    M Scott Eiland (59e34f)

  48. I personally reject the “it doesn’t matter if someone else does it” argument because politics in the United States is played on one of the most uneven playing fields because of the media. I REJOICE that the public is telling CNN, The NYTimes etc. to shove it because they’ve been extremely biased for years and screaming criminality if a conservative does something nowhere near as bad as what Democrats have been getting away with for decades.

    “Now, what the Democrats are saying is that the Trump administration and their defenders in the media at Fox News and the like are, quote-unquote, “moving the goalposts” by saying, “Well, this only shows that Trump Jr. was willing to get information from the Russian government about Clinton, but it doesn’t show there was actual criminal collusion.” To me, it seems as though the people who are moving the goalposts are the Democrats. The claim all along, the reason why there’s talk of impeachment, the reason why there is a special prosecutor, the reason why people want to see Trump and his associates criminally prosecuted, is because of the claim that they committed crimes by colluding with the Russians with regard to the hacking. That’s what Harry Reid has always said. That’s what John Podesta has always said. That has always been the Democratic claim. This newest evidence doesn’t in any way suggest that. What it suggests instead is that Donald Trump Jr. was told that the Russian government had incriminating evidence about Hillary Clinton and wanted to give it to him. And he said, “Well, I’d love to get it. I’d love to have it.” Now, I guess there’s some sense that it’s wrong for a political campaign to take dirt on your adversary from a foreign government. I don’t think it’s illegal at all to do that, but there’s a claim that it’s somehow sort of immoral.

    And here’s what I don’t understand. The Steele dossier that everybody got excited about, that claimed that the Russians had incriminating videos of Trump in a Moscow hotel and other dirt on Trump, that came from somebody who was getting first paid by Republicans and then by Democrats, going to Moscow and getting dirt about Donald Trump from Kremlin-affiliated agents in Moscow. In other words, he went to Russia, talked to people affiliated with the Russian government and said, “Give me dirt about Donald Trump,” and then, presumably, got it and put it in the memo. Similarly, there’s an amazing Politico article from January of this year that describes how allies of the Clinton campaign, including somebody being paid by the DNC, met with officials of the Ukrainian government, which was desperate to help Hillary Clinton win and Donald Trump lose, and get information incriminating about Trump from Ukrainian officials. In other words, Ukraine was meddling in our election by giving Democrats incriminating information about Trump.

    Now, I, personally, although it’s dirty, think all of these events are sort of the way politics works. Of course if you’re in an important campaign and someone offers you incriminating information about your opponent, you’re going to want it no matter where it comes from, whether it’s Ukrainian officials, whether it’s anti-Trump people in Moscow or whether it’s pro-Trump people in Moscow. So, I want to hear the standard that we’re supposed to use to assess Trump Jr.’s actions. Is it that it’s wrong in all cases to get incriminating information about your opponent from a foreign government? In which case, why is it OK for the Democrats to do it with Ukrainian officials or for their investigator to go to Moscow and get dirt on Trump? Or is it some other standard that distinguishes what Trump Jr. did in this case versus what Democrats did with the Steele dossier and with Ukraine? And I just don’t see this distinction.”

    Glenn Greenwald, at, of all places, Democracy Now!

    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/7/13/glenn_greenwald_donald_trump_jrs_emails

    harkin (536957)

  49. @35/@50- You’d be right in so far as words– like, aluminum– recycle quickly in his random access memory. Clearly the Captain’s noodle was experiencing ‘executive overflow’ and had ‘transparency’ in his RAM about Don Jr’s, email release so he just spit the word out while rebooting.

    So don’t any body talk nuclear around him. Stick to fake news and yuge breasts.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. Quoting Glenn Greenwald with approval here, of all places, is the ultimate irony.

    DRJ (15874d)

  51. Time to recall one of Patterico’s Hall of Fame posts.

    DRJ (15874d)

  52. Harkin (at #51)

    Greenwald does have the right view of this meeting in terms of it being some kind of impeachable offense or smoking gun:

    I do think it bolsters the Democrats’ view that the Russians—the theory that Russians wanted Trump to win and that the Trump campaign was willing to take help from the Russians. But that’s still—there’s still a lot more steps that need to be completed before we get to any kind of evidence of an actual crime being committed. And that’s why I don’t think that this revelation, interesting though it may be, is as significant or a smoking gun when it comes to the impeachment or the prosecution case.

    But he is not taking the stance that this is nothing. He believes, rationally, that this meeting, prviously not disclosed, reveals pathways worth investigating.

    Appalled (96665e)

  53. @6/@8. Not to mention mules.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. It started hre 11 years ago yesterday. Thanks for the timely (albeit unintended) trip down memory lane, harkin.

    DRJ (15874d)

  55. But the way this frog is being boiled, we’ll get to the point where there’s video of Trump asking Putin to hack Hillary..

    What do you mean …IF....

    That video has been around for a year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1MbFesSC7M

    The problem with that is:

    1. It took place after the hacking.

    2. Everyone assumed (except for a few people whom Trump listened to) that Hillary had deleted all the emails whose paper printouts she hadn’t sent to the State Department.

    3. The Russians never supplied the missing emails, so there was no collusion.

    4. If he has to ask this way, in public, it means there’s no private back channel.

    5. He was kind of rambling in that press conference.

    6. Trump’s official position on that is that that was a joke

    WaPo transcript of that press conf.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/27/donald-trumps-falsehood-laden-press-conference-annotated

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  56. Still “Much Ado About Nothing!” This exercise in stupidity goes on and on with absolutely nothing of substance being presented.

    Michael Keohane (947544)

  57. Ya know, with all the hoopla one would think Trump Jr. did something like sell 20% of Americas uranium supply to the Russians and hid the money in his *foundation* when he was Sec. of State. Hell, that would be treason. And collusion. And conspiracy. And fraud. And well, you get the point.

    The last time I was in Washington which was at least four years ago, my wife and I ate at Mastros Steakhouse. I was two tables from that cur Nazi Pelozi and our waiter informed me she was dining with the Russian Ambassador and a couple “top dogs” from Boeing. Would that be considered *treason and collusion* now a days? Or does collusion only occur when any Trump talks to any Russian? So far nobody has stated that anything was given to Trump by the Russian or by Trump to the Russian. So what’s up? If they didn’t do something for each other then it’s the biggest Fake Collusion in history.

    Rev.Hoagie® (630eca)

  58. “Judge Tosses Jury’s Conviction Of Woman Who Laughed At Jeff Sessions, Orders New Trial”

    Well, hush my mush mouf.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  59. One of the reasons it’s so important to elect trustworthy people of character is because the President and members of Congress do not have to file SF-86 forms or get security clearances. The security clearance process is where foreign contacts areally disclosed, and Presidential and Congressional staff do go through that process.

    If that different treatment is troublesome (and I think it is), then the answer isn’t to eliminate all security clearance vetting. The answer is to support having everyone go through the vetting.

    DRJ (15874d)

  60. This CIA post explains how security clearances work.

    DRJ (15874d)

  61. I’ve been thinking long and hard about the Simpsons analogy. I like it, but the characterization is off. My take is that we have Donald Trump in the role of Bart Simpson and Trumps myriad opponents – but, especially Hilary – in the role of Lisa Simpson. There also seem to be a number Abe Simpsons spread around the commentariat and the Senate.

    Wasn’t there a Simpsons episode in which Bart and Lisa both ran for President of Springfield Elementary? I’m going to have to review that episode to see if it gives any insights into today’s political landscape.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  62. In 2000, there was a Simpsons episode that actually had Trump as President. Lisa was the President who had to clean up after him.

    DRJ (15874d)

  63. I think it should be an invisible wall.

    Look! It’s already built!

    … Promise kept.

    sauropod (271cbd)

  64. It’s obvious to me that Trump has a problem with bricklayers, probably because they’re unionized and you know how Republicans hates unions.

    nk (dbc370)

  65. *hate*

    nk (dbc370)

  66. Seriously, the bigger boon to immigration enforcement will be the access roads which will have be built for the construction of the fence. If they’re maintained, they’ll really speed up ground response to alarms along the fence, and make patrolling it by car a lot easier.

    nk (dbc370)

  67. So it’s really a question of whether you want the wall built or not, it’s not much longer than the Alaskan pipeline.

    narciso (d1f714)


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