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7/12/2017

Tucker Carlson and Max Boot Face Off

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:00 pm

Tucker Carlson has a knack for creating viral content in his often aggressive interviews. This time, however, he lets the sneering and snide side of his personality completely take over, as he takes on Max Boot, who gets down in the gutter with Carlson to create a nasty exchange that I find embarrassing for both parties:

The two men repeatedly interrupt each other, snipe at each other, and generally act like an old married couple who have been cooped up in the same tiny house for far too long. Three cheers to you if you can keep watching after Carlson sneers: “Maybe you should choose a different profession. Selling insurance. House painting. Something you’re good at.”

The only thing that could make the clip more unbearable would be to have Jon Stewart materialize between them to start lecturing them both.

I see people all over the Internet saying that one of these men “destroyed” the other . . . although opinions seem to diverge widely as to who was the destroyer and who was the destroyee.

Me, I think they both come out of it looking a little smaller.

But hey, it’s great for ratings.

[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]

56 Responses to “Tucker Carlson and Max Boot Face Off”

  1. Few men can carry off the half-Windsor knot, so it looks as neat as a full Windsor. I’m one, Sean Connery was another.

    nk (dbc370)

  2. The Russian lawyer who penetrated Donald Trump’s inner circle was initially cleared into the United States by the Justice Department under “extraordinary circumstances” before she embarked on a lobbying campaign last year that ensnared the president’s eldest son, members of Congress, journalists and State Department officials, according to court and Justice Department documents and interviews.

    This revelation means it was the Obama Justice Department that enabled the newest and most intriguing figure in the Russia-Trump investigation to enter the country without a visa……

    ……The Moscow lawyer had been turned down for a visa to enter the U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch………”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump

    Strangely, I’m not hearing any of this on CNN.

    harkin (a91251)

  3. Tucker Carlson seems a rather thin-skinned little snot. I only got as far as him telling Boot that he had been wrong for 10 years. Obviously, he had very little respect for Boot from the get-go, and also appeared to still be smarting from the spanking Col. Peters gave him the previous evening. If he had any sense of decorum or dignity, he would have waited to pick a fight with Boot when he had better control of his emotions. Instead of being in control, he looked and sounded like an angry child building to a tantrum. I’m glad I saw the brief clip. Now I know not to waste my time watching his show.

    Dana (023079)

  4. I miss the days when news channels had news on.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  5. Carlson’s a jerk. He went ad hom at the 3:20 mark. (We’ll leave his man-crush for Putin aside.) Was Boot paid to be there? Because I would have walked off and let Carlson fill up the other seven minutes by himself.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. Eugene Volokh comments:

    “Foreigners who aren’t U.S. citizens or U.S. permanent residents, the argument goes, are barred from providing candidates any “thing of value” in connection with any American election campaign. Campaign staff are barred from soliciting any “thing of value” from such foreigners. And, the argument goes, valuable political information about an opponent’s misdeeds is a “thing of value.” (Hasen notes that the Federal Election Commission has treated some information, such as contact lists, campaign materials, and polling information as a “thing of value.”)

    What’s more, this would apply not just to foreigners who live abroad. If a Slovakian college student who is studying in the United States called the Clinton campaign with such information, that would be a crime. If the Clinton campaign heard that Mar-a-Lago was employing illegal immigrants in Florida and staffers went down to interview the workers, that would be a crime.

    And it would make opposition research on much possible foreign misconduct virtually impossible.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/07/12/can-it-be-a-crime-to-do-opposition-research-by-asking-foreigners-for-information/?utm_term=.b5056674d1b5

    We certainly have come a long way from “Trump colluded with Russia to hack the election”

    harkin (a91251)

  7. Well between king salmon who once funded the camps where the hijackers trained and rohani whonas security adviser, was part of hezbollahs chain of command in Beirut its a power. Then you have Abe mazen he was educated in Moscow u, funded the Munich attack and was later an official kgb asset as opposed to arafat, who was grus

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. Man, I didn’t know that Eugene Volokh had turned into such an authoritarian. He wants to make everything a crime!

    nk (dbc370)

  9. Then theses aldonthe fact that the Obama administration allowed an actual Iranian puppet fit 5, cheered by the same people who lied about chalabi. They let assad get away with murder.
    Whereas as trump stopped one signal attack.

    narciso (d1f714)

  10. 8 – “Man, I didn’t know that Eugene Volokh had turned into such an authoritarian. He wants to make everything a crime!”

    Was the /sarc tag missing? I read it as the exact opposite.

    But while we’re talking about it………

    “Charges of “Russian collusion” may have opened Pandora’s Box for the environmentalist wing of the Democratic Party and the American left. Republican congressman Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, and energy subcommittee chairman Rep. Randy Weber have sent a letter to Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin, calling:

    … on the Trump administration to investigate whether Russia is trying to undermine the U.S. energy industry by funding environmental activism as part of a “propaganda war against fossil fuels.”

    “If you connect the dots, it is clear that Russia is funding U.S. environmental groups in an effort to suppress our domestic oil and gas industry, specifically hydraulic fracking,” said Mr. Smith, Texas Republican, in a Friday statement.

    “They have established an elaborate scheme that funnels money through shell companies in Bermuda,” he said. “This scheme may violate federal law and certainly distorts the U.S. energy market. The American people deserve to know the truth and I am confident Secretary Mnuchin will investigate the allegations.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/12/two-key-house-members-call-to-investigate-russian-collusion-with-anti-fracking-green-groups/

    harkin (a91251)

  11. Calling your opponent evil and stupid gets everyone riled up, thinking emotionally, and not looking at the big picture. Which is the point here.

    It’s intended to be a feature, not a bug, in modern media.

    Ugh.

    Simon Jester (b07cc1)

  12. Seeing as the previous administration indulged in behavior that creates the antweird coalituob

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. I think Eugene Volokh was being sarcastic by reductio ad absurdum. None of those things, or anything close to them, has been prosecuted. He’s making fun of an absolutist interpretation of the foreign donor ban which is chimerical — just speculation on his part.

    I can see a difference between an oppo researcher’s informant who may be a foreigner, and a completed oppo research dossier tied in a pretty red ribbon which a foreigner wants to give to a campaign. Since the Valise lady gave nothing to Don-don Jr., we don’t know which it was. But the dossier should be illegal. (Even without the red ribbon.)

    nk (dbc370)

  14. Self-described genius Max Boot sounds like Jan Brady’s made up boyfriend.

    Pinandpuller (476527)

  15. Priceless POOTERICO!!! PRICELESS. Cross posted at RED STATE!!!

    Pooter, we hardly knew yee!!!

    Hilarious. Pooter, have you donated to Planned Parenthood yet!!?? Hahahaaahahahaaaa. Clown.
    Ratings????? Hahahahahahahahahahaa!!!

    GUS (30b6bd)

  16. Self-described genius Max Boot looks about as surprised as a 19 year old Florida State coed waking up in a wet T Shirt.

    Pinandpuller (476527)

  17. 6. Eugene Volokh comments:

    “Foreigners who aren’t U.S. citizens or U.S. permanent residents, the argument goes, are barred from providing candidates any “thing of value” in connection with any American election campaign. Campaign staff are barred from soliciting any “thing of value” from such foreigners.

    Yes, but also they are prohibiting from accepting anything from anyone without recording the “contribution,” and anything worth more than $200 without recording the name and occupation of the person who gave it and making it public (except that it is illegal for other campaigns to use the published information for fundraising without permission) and from getting a total of more than about 2,700 from any person per election.

    I don’t think anyone really wants to go there. Although they have gone there for professional services like accounting or legal work I think unless it’s a close friend or a family member, I think. But do you want to make it impossible for anyone to run for office except insiders who know how to lie?

    Sammy Finkelman (5b0d7d)

  18. ..and evade.

    I’m talking about federal campaigns.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b0d7d)

  19. CNN to MSNBC to Fox… next stop, the Pinedale Shopping Mall, Mister Carlson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifw1NoODMfs

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. Morning Joke is more suitable for this crew.

    mg (31009b)

  21. All Max had to do is ask Carlson what the follow-on was once Assad was removed from power. Carlson has admitted for the last 8 years that he has fallen out of favor of the idea that nation building and the missions like what Iraq and Afghanistan are shouldn’t be the role of America. So all Max had to do to show the shallowness of the Trump brand of foreign policy would be to ask “What is next after Assad is removed from power?” just keep hammering it home. However, Max Boot is just as much a thin skinned individual and unfortunatly someone who isn’t able to defend the policy positions he seems to take or advocate for very well (read a number of his books and he never makes it past the 2nd or 4th order effects of decisions he seems to advocate in his writings). So the whole thing is just a clown show all the way around.

    Charles (24e862)

  22. Max Boot = Loser

    Eric (519dbe)

  23. TC was massively disingenuous with Peters on Tuesday night and goes ad hominem on Boot the next night.

    While I very much like TC and appreciate his hostility for the Left, he is simply not ready for the big leagues, as O’Reilly was.

    Then again, compared to Megyn, TC is a Saint.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  24. Max sounded ill informed. To boot, he was non reponsive to legit questions.

    jb (6b68cf)

  25. Neither covered themselves in glory, but Carlson calling Boot bad at his job was a bit rich considering Carlson is the guy who got his ass handed to him by Jon Stewart. Carlson decided to harp on a single talking point, and basically sneered his way through the conversation.

    Well I guess the right has its new Stewart/Colbert. Hooray?

    Paul Zummo (2c79a5)

  26. And on respect Stewart is the biggest tool,

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. Max Boot’s “Performance” helps explain why the “Neo-Con” movement has been largely discredited. And bragging about being Mitt Romney’s foreign policy advisor is a bit like bragging about being General Custer’s strategist.

    Eric (2dac60)

  28. Neocons originally understood that military engagement was to be used sparingly

    narciso (d1f714)

  29. 28 – “…..considering Carlson is the guy who got his ass handed to him by Jon Stewart.”

    What Bill Whittle did to Jon Stewart left a chalk outline:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMbvf3sn_g

    harkin (33654e)

  30. You got American bridged again

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. GUS provides the Just One Minute intellectuals perspective.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  32. “Theories on suspected leakers have ranged from Trump’s own family members and senior aides to Congressional overseers to Trump-hating law enforcement officials and members of the bureaucratic “deep state.”
    A cascade of stories on Trump Jr.’s attempt to solicit dirt on Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton from a Russian lawyer with ties to state security services set off a new round of questions over Trump campaign communications—and potential collusion with—Russian government agents.”

    Daily Bust-

    “Sow the Wind. Reap teh Whirlwind ”

    The Bible

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  33. Roger Stone says the leaker initials are JK. To draw attention away from himself?
    Is he a Trojan Horse? Mebbe.

    https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/07/13/kushners-digital-armies-and-facebooks-1/

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  34. “I’m glad they are doing this, but I’m a bit troubled by the belief (based in part on what I consider unproven analysis that Congress has already mainlined) that all the trolls and bots were Russian.”

    BREIBART/WIENERHUMAHACK.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  35. “As I say over and over, some of this is definitely Russian. But the underlying activities — the ratfucking being led by people who were ratfucking while Putin was still in law school — are also things Republicans do and have been doing for decades.”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  36. No cheers for me. I changed channels.

    ropelight (a7d89c)

  37. While the exchanges are difficult to watch with the interruptions, with both Ralph Peters and Max Boot, Carlson is correct. How often do you have to be wrong about Middle Eastern intervention before you are no longer plausible as an authority? We have been in the field in the ME for since 2001 and back to the 1st Gulf War with nothing good nor worthwhile to show for it spare Bin Laden’s burial at sea. The neocon Cold War nostalgia of making Putin into Stalin II an embarrassment.Putin is a bad guy; he may even be Czar Vlad. But Russia is not the bogeyman of their fantasies. Would remind everyone that the same press trying to bring down Trump for….anyone know what the hell this is?…was not nearly as concerned when the Obama State Department intervened in Ukraine to depose an elected if pro Russian government nor tried to help Netenyahou’s opponent in Israel. And bigger than any of that, the MFM remains completely uninterested in the Clinton campaign and DNC chair Wasserman-Schultz fixing the Democratic primary process.

    Bugg (b7f13d)

  38. Ratings are important. The conservative side has always had difficulty getting their message out on television – radio is another matter.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  39. Bugg@42

    Excellent insights.

    Even if you buy into the Putin as Stalin meme, it is difficult to argue that some neocon tit-for-tat will be more effective at countering Putin than Trump’s intention of flooding Europe with cheap fuel. Here again, if you look at the substance of Trump, our President comes out on top.

    Being the partisan I am, I was delighted when Trump stated it was an honor to meet the man whose aspirations he is in the process of crushing by glutting the fuel market.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  40. The Neo-Cons, nearly 15 years later, still can’t own up to getting it wrong – terribly wrong – on the issue of the WMD’s that never showed up in Iraq. And Trump called them on it in the primary debates. That alone demolished their credibility in my book.

    Eric (519dbe)

  41. Incompetently prancing around the middle east to no strategic effect is fine when we do it but when Russia does it oh my goodness katie bar the door.

    It’s hard to take prancing dorks seriously no matter what uniform they wear really.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  42. Well keeping saddamm in power, was no picnic, the problem was considering the ties to salafts that consolidated after the gulf war, with Islamic jihad and hezbollah, they should have been more prepated

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. yes yes prancing around with purpose and achieving strategic aims and goals is a whole different thing

    failmerica should give it a shot sometime

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  44. Carlson’s a jerk. He went ad hom at the 3:20 mark.

    True, not that Boot covered himself in glory either. Strictly handbags at dawn stuff, this.

    Presumably someone watches these six-dollar bar argument US shows with the expectation of cogent argument and civil debate. More’s the pity.

    The Neo-Cons, nearly 15 years later, still can’t own up to getting it wrong – terribly wrong – on the issue of the WMD’s that never showed up in Iraq.

    To be fair this wasn’t strictly a “neocon” position. That Trump managed to bluster his way through this point should give Patterico and other critics of more materially assertive US foreign policy some pause, at least vis-à-vis certain regional hotspots.

    As far as WMD estimates went, it has emerged that they were not so much incorrect about the presence of WMDs but the scale of the problem, the disorganisation of the Ba’athist state, and the reality that Iraq’s WMD programs were more or less dormant.

    It’s become clear that for various reasons the Bush administration simply didn’t want to relitigate that point, as they well should have.

    This in and of itself does not excuse the woeful lack of post-invasion planning, which is a distinct (if related) issue.

    JP (aefd2b)

  45. A war that goes on for More than a,decade is,hard to justify. Recall the Trojan war btw that filn was,terrivle

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. Take your point that weariness sets in.

    On the other hand the US has fought longer wars (though I’m not sure it has ever had such extended, continuous single-theatre combat deployments).

    JP (78eb06)

  47. The phillipine war was one if the longest.

    narciso (d1f714)

  48. I think the NATO-Afghan war has now eclipsed the Philippine insurgencies.

    Given the post-9/11 ideological backdrop to that and other recent US deployments, though, it’s probably fair to say that we’re looking at long-term US-NATO collaboration in keeping with previous efforts at force projection (i.e. Cold War conflicts and police actions).

    Not a cheery thought, perhaps. Not a wild one either.

    JP (78eb06)

  49. I don’t know why I missed this post earlier.

    I saw the segment with Carlson and Boot. Carlson was at his frat-boy smarmy worst, and started the ad hominem brawl, but Boot responded in kind and with utter enthusiasm.

    I think they were both playing the ratings. They’re looking for the same people who made Beavis and Butthead a hit. This was exactly as entertaining as watching two five-year olds scream “Did not! Did too!” at each other.

    Beldar (fa637a)

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