Patterico's Pontifications

7/12/2017

Trump

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:55 am

LOL

Is he responding to a claim he saw on TV? Only The Shadow knows.

To be fair, the claim was in POLITICO too. (No links for bullies.) But Trump doesn’t strike me as much of a reader.

To me, the fact that Trump claims he has very little time for TV is the best evidence that he has loads of time for TV. You know, on account of his being a huge liar.

Here’s another interesting timing coincidence.

Oddly enough, after Junior’s meeting with the Kremlin-connected lawyer — and she is Kremlin-connected, not a random Russian citizen as the hacks tried to portray her — the promised Trump speech about Hillary dirt did not materialize. It ended up focusing on national security instead.

It’s allllmost as if Junior told Daddy that dirt would be forthcoming, but then struck out.

Of course Junior and Daddy say Junior didn’t tell Trump about the meeting with the Kremlin-connected lawyer. Which, to me, is the best evidence that he did. You know, on account of both of them being huge liars.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back, possibly the only place I will comment.]

129 Responses to “Trump”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. there’s still not a scinitlla of evidence that Trump did any colludes with the Russians

    poor corrupt fbi turdboy Robert Mueller’s gonna need to staff up some more huh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. *scintilla* of evidence i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. That was the local ministeyer, guillam behind that.

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. On Jun 7, 2016, at 18:14, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

    Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law and me, 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

    The Russians realize when they find this out that they now have an unanticipated problem.

    We dont have any emails explaining how it got rescheduled to the 9th.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  6. it was actually just two weeks or so later that Mr. Donald Trump gave his promised speech about how filthy and piggy Hillary Clinton is

    it’s an interesting speech cause it showed how he was willing to hit his opponent exponentially harder than either pervy harvardtrash Mitt Romney or cowardly torture-turd McCain were ever willing to hit theirs (interestingly, neither pervy Mitt NOR coward McCain were successful in their bids for election)

    here’s the section just about how sketchy hillary is with her filthy influence-peddling schemes and her anti-american collusion with foreign governments

    Clinton Cash:

    A foreign telecom giant faced possible State Department sanctions for providing technology to Iran, and other oppressive regimes. So what did this company do? For the first time ever, they decided to pay Bill Clinton $750,000 for a single speech. The Clintons got their cash, the telecom company escaped sanctions.

    Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while 9 investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.

    Hillary Clinton appointed a top donor to a national security board with top secret access – even though he had no national security credentials.

    Hillary Clinton accepted $58,000 in jewelry from the government of Brunei when she was Secretary of State – plus millions more for her foundation. The Sultan of Brunei has pushed oppressive Sharia law, including the punishment of death by stoning for being gay. The government of Brunei also stands to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of Hillary’s Trans-Pacific Partnership, which she would absolutely approve if given the chance.

    Hillary Clinton took up to $25 million from Saudi Arabia, where being gay is also punishable by death.

    Hillary took millions from Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and many other countries that horribly abuse women and LGBT citizens.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. June 7 – 5:16 PM – Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

    June 7 – 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt.

    It was accepted by Goldstone at 5:19 so that really should be 5:19

    What’s missing here is:

    June 9 – Trump campaign receives no information

    ??? Press conference gets cancelled or Trump campaign stops promising one.

    Except things didn’t happen that way. Trump did hold a press conference. What he romised was a speech

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-set-address-terrorism-clinton-record-monday-speech-n590766

    But Donald Trump could have been talking about anything as far as Hillary was concerned. Actually at the time I thought Trump was most probably lying about benng ready to release Clinton dirt.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  8. He gave the speech on We3dnesday June 22, 2016.

    Here;s where he attacks Hillary Clinton personally:

    Our trade deficit with China soared 40% during Hillary Clinton’s time as Secretary of State — a disgraceful performance for which she should not be congratulated, but rather scorned.

    Then she let China steal hundreds of billions of dollars in our intellectual property – a crime which is continuing to this day.

    Hillary Clinton gave China millions of our best jobs, and effectively let China completely rebuild itself.

    In return, Hillary Clinton got rich!

    The book Clinton Cash, by Peter Schweitzer, documents how Bill and Hillary used the State Department to enrich their family at America’s expense.

    She gets rich making you poor.

    Here is a quote from the book: “At the center of US policy toward China was Hillary Clinton…at this critical time for US-china relations, Bill Clinton gave a number of speeches that were underwritten by the Chinese government and its supporters.”

    These funds were paid to the Clinton bank account while Hillary was negotiating with China on behalf of the United States.

    She sold out our workers, and our country, for Beijing….Here is some more of what we learned from the book,

    Clinton Cash:

    A foreign telecom giant faced possible State Department sanctions for providing technology to Iran, and other oppressive regimes. So what did this company do? For the first time ever, they decided to pay Bill Clinton $750,000 for a single speech. The Clintons got their cash, the telecom company escaped sanctions.

    Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while 9 investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.

    Hillary Clinton appointed a top donor to a national security board with top secret access – even though he had no national security credentials.

    Hillary Clinton accepted $58,000 in jewelry from the government of Brunei when she was Secretary of State – plus millions more for her foundation. The Sultan of Brunei has pushed oppressive Sharia law, including the punishment of death by stoning for being gay. The government of Brunei also stands to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of Hillary’s Trans-Pacific Partnership, which she would absolutely approve if given the chance.

    Hillary Clinton took up to $25 million from Saudi Arabia, where being gay is also punishable by death.

    Hillary took millions from Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and many other countries that horribly abuse women and LGBT citizens.

    To cover-up her corrupt dealings, Hillary Clinton illegally stashed her State Department emails on a private server.

    Her server was easily hacked by foreign governments – perhaps even by her financial backers in Communist China – putting all of America in danger.

    Then there are the 33,000 emails she deleted.

    While we may not know what is in those deleted emails, our enemies probably do.

    So they probably now have a blackmail file over someone who wants to be President of the United States.

    This fact alone disqualifies her from the Presidency.

    We can’t hand over our government to someone whose deepest, darkest secrets may be in the hands of our enemies.

    Trump mixes in a lot of policy and unfair accusations, and theer you can also see him going on about refugees.

    But anyway, Donald Trump doesn’t do a very good job of talking about “dirt” on Hillary Clinton and what he does talk about comes from the book “Clinton Cash”

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  9. good point Mr. F

    looks like President Trump delayed his speech on stinkypig cause of not wanting to hit her so hard in the wake of the Orlando shooting on June 12, so he gave it another ten days then he let her have it like a red-headed pickle-pooper

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. When the yuge liar in the White House “attempt(s) to do something covert with our enemy,” we are talking treason, plain and simple.

    Or, maybe, constitutionally protected free speech and association.

    One or the other.

    Jonathan Turley: “It is like we have this giant Rorschach test and people see whatever they want to.”

    ThOR (c9324e)

  11. some people are bias on Mr. Trump

    you know who you are

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. So do we care about policy or not, the grisheko play favors the swamp, the deep state

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. I’m doing my best to follow your unbiased example, happy.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  14. you just have to weigh the evidence and follow it to logical conclusions

    however, in this Trump/Russia “collusion” conspiracy theory, there’s no actual evidence to weigh

    so i ordered Chinese

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  15. Playboy just posted an interview with President Trump online:

    “I’ve committed adultery collusion in my heart many times.”

    – President Carter Trump

    ThOR (c9324e)

  16. “She is Kremlin-connected, not a random Russian citizen as the hacks tried to portray her.”

    An assertion not supported by the link. Not surprising, on account of you being a huge liar.

    Proud Prolifer (134838)

  17. 19. That’s probably about all we’ll hear from you again PP, at least on this site. “You done done it now!”

    Tillman (a95660)

  18. To be fair, I think this whole thing is just Putin reminding Trump that he can play him like a fiddle, any time, any where. Trump comes out of the G20 giving even a semblance of sass to Putin? Putin slaps him down by publicizing an episode that Trump may never have known about, to remind Trump (and the US) that Trump is a moron who sends his mini-morons into arenas where they are ill-equipped to play.

    Ms. Veselnitskaya interviews, given in Russian, with her far-too-obvious non-denial denials of involvement with the Russian government, smack of pure theater. Putin is reminding the US that he owns Trump. That’s all.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  19. The shifty lawyer and Goldstone are both connected to Fusion GPS – the Democrat Party’s opposition research arm, and the organization responsible for the phony Trump dossier.

    ropelight (a7d89c)

  20. The roast squirrel gets kind of mangy, only good for newcomer, (alien nation reference)

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. President Trump is putting paid to these trifling and petty conspiracy theories with graciousness and good humor!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. slimy torture-turd John McCain, however, is babbling inanely, desperate for relevance

    “I can assure you the people around me would not be inclined to do that kind of thing, especially not one of my sons. ‘Cause my sons — they’re in the military. You know, they’d probably be court-martialed,” McCain said Tuesday, the Weekly Standard reports.

    Dorkwad.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. Natalia Veselnitskaya – that name doesn’t sound Russian, does it? Nyet! /sarc

    Tillman (a95660)

  24. An assertion not supported by the link.

    the new york times fake news article says this though:

    In recent years, she had become the public face of Moscow’s efforts to reverse international travel and financial sanctions on key Russian figures linked to an alleged $230 million tax fraud.

    it seems likely she got paid for scoring this meeting with Mr. Jr. as part of her efforts to publicize the propaganda film she’d booked at the newseum later that week

    She submitted lengthy testimony and organized a screening of an anti-Magnitsky film at Newseum in Washington in June 2016, just days after she met with Donald Trump Jr.

    so back then her brief was Magnitsky

    this week though she’s dancing to Vladimir’s tune as part of an effort to destablilize failmerica

    and this is *exactly* the kind of interference that pearl-clutching nevertrumps like cowardly lickspittle John McCain claim to fear and abhor, but watch how that brainwashed anti-american coward actually does everything he can to assist Putin’s efforts

    Just an altogether revolting and slimy human being, John McCain is.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  25. Again: THIS is what collusion with a representative of the Russian government looks like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    Kevin M (752a26)

  26. Impeach Donald Trump Junior!

    So, that’s it? Looking at the evidence in the light most favorable to the prosecution, Trump’s stupid son (not to imply that he has any smart ones) thought he could get dirt on Hillary from a Russian government connected Russian lawyer, and met with her for that purpose, and it turned out that he did not because she did not give him any?

    So where do we go from here?

    nk (dbc370)

  27. that’s up to corrupt FBI turdboy Robert Mueller Mr. nk

    but sounds like Russian operative John McCain is going to try to press the advantage for Putin in the meantime

    After he released the emails, McCain was one of several Republican Senators who said Trump Jr. needed to testify before Congress. “We’ve got a lot more to learn about the whole issue. … Another shoe drops from the centipede every few days,” he said, according to the Standard.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  28. I think we’ve talked this to death.

    But I’ll tell you what. When Donald Trump Junior runs for President, I’m going to remember this and maybe not vote for him.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. fair enough

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. #29 — If this is all they’ve got, nobody should be prosecuted. However, Russia discovered in this that DJT, Jr was willing accept dirt from a strategic adversary. Mueller’s crew has every reason to investigate whether Russia followed up.

    Appalled (96665e)

  31. All of the sources spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation, led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, is confidential.

    FBI ethics too funny

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  32. Or, maybe, constitutionally protected free speech and association.

    Indeed. But it’s how the free speech and association are exercised which can raise questions.

    In the case at hand, Trump family members and associates deal with members and associates of a regime which is, if not exactly our enemy, certainly not our friend, and which sees us as an adversary. (Which is the case with China, but not other countries.) People should be questioning that. If the Trumps have a reasonable answer, they can give it.

    The fact that the Clintons engaged in similar contacts but those contacts remained unquestioned by the media is ample evidence of media hypocrisy. But media hypocrisy does not excuse incompetence (which I think is what this basically is) and skullduggery (which is possible, but not supported by evidence currently available to the public) on the part of Trump.

    kishnevi (d5e622)

  33. Of course Junior and Daddy say Junior didn’t tell Trump about the meeting with the Kremlin-connected lawyer. Which, to me, is the best evidence that he did. You know, on account of both of them being huge liars.

    Junior may have told Daddy the dirt was coming, but not where the dirt was coming from. And there’s plenty of sleaze floating around about the Clintons that Trump would have no special reason to think it came from Russia unless he was told so.

    kishnevi (d5e622)

  34. Who was going to tell we know comes bureau didn’t even inspect the servers, judicial watch did mist of the actual investigating.

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. I think if Jr said “I’m getting some dirt on Hillary, Dad,” that Dad would say “Great. From whom?”

    DRJ (15874d)

  36. Y’know, people coming to this blog for the first time are going to see “happyfeet on Trump” on the home page, and think Patterico is printing out the outtakes from the infamous dossier.

    Appalled (96665e)

  37. “Ding!”

    Is that Beldar coming out of his corner?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  38. I still think too much is being placed on the collusion and too much leeway for Trumps super-political, unpolitical head fakes and ‘everyman’ fakery.

    Voters get sleepy with complexity. They understand bribery gifts though.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  39. The White House leaks; the son’s a drip.
    ______

    Today’s Beldar The Bitter ‘Watergate, Watergate, Watergate’ Words Of Wonder:

    “I, I think you’ve got to do it like they did in the war, you say whenever you know, uh, you remember in World War II, uh, the Germans, uh, if they went through these towns and then one of their soldiers, a sniper hit one of them, they’d line up the whole goddamned town and say until you talk you’re all getting shot. I really think that’s what has to be done. I mean I don’t think you can be Mr. Nice Guy over there.” – President Nixon pressuring L.Patrick Gray to “plug” FBI Watergate leaks, secret White House Oval Office tapes, February 16, 1973

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  40. On Wednesday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” California Lieutenant Governor and 2018 gubernatorial candidate Gavin Newsom (D) stated that the Russia story isn’t going to do anything for Democrats and is a loser.

    this is why more and more we’re seeing slimy nevertrump torture-turds like John McCain doing more to keep the story alive than Democrats

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. Ben burn:

    I would prefer more concentration on the good old corruption that is inherent in the way Trump and his family are intertwined with his business and the Trump way of governing.

    But spies drive the clicks, and they really do seem to have found something with Junior that may not be a crime (but not for lack of trying on Junior’s part).

    Appalled (96665e)

  42. Man of the Year, people.

    urbanleftbehind (3538cb)

  43. Ralph Peters is just more proof that staying in the military too long can make you weird and loopy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  44. …and now some interesting intramural…who you got in this one, happy?
    http://www.yahoo.com/news/meghan-mccain-mike-pence-apos-180145524.html

    urbanleftbehind (3538cb)

  45. 22. “The shifty lawyer and Goldstone are both connected to Fusion GPS – the Democrat Party’s opposition research arm, and the organization responsible for the phony Trump dossier.”

    You would think this would be important but for some reason no one’s reporting that.

    harkin (33654e)

  46. The fact that Hillary, acting in her capacity as Secretary of State, approved the sale of 20% of America’s uranium to Russia after millions in ‘contributions’ flowed from Russian sources into the Clinton Foundation, and this in addition to exorbitant (newly increased) speaking fees paid directly to Bill Clinton ostensibly for addressing Russian audiences.

    Both the ‘contributions’ and the ‘speaking fees’ were clear violations of the pledge Hillary made to Obama to affirmatively disclose exactly any such opportunistic transactions. That signal agreement was a condition of her nomination to the State Department – it was a ‘deal breaker’ she had to accept to get Obama’s nomonation, but once in office she blatently reneged on it. Dangle cash in front of Hillary and she responds like Pavlov’s dog.

    Clearly, Barack Obama, and Hillary and Bill Clinton had long been in bed with Vladimir Putin, yet MSM and Democrat guttersnipes have succeeded in establishing the false narrative that Donald Trump was Moscow’s favored choice to lead the US.

    It’s an example of how the BIG LIE works – push the lie early and often enough, viciously attack any deviations from the ‘party line’ and ruthlessly ridicule anyone as crazy or malicious who who offers alternative views. The formula is designed to silence anyone who might question the validity of the BIG LIE, and drive the truth into the shadows.

    One can only imagine Hillary under oath being asked why she ignored her pledge to Obama and took the Russian’s bribe money, pausing as she smirked, then looking defiantly at her inquisitors and following her husband’s example when he was asked why he was playing pattycake in the Oval Office with Monica Lewinsky, answered – “Because I could.”

    ropelight (a7d89c)

  47. Trump: simply indefensible (there’s an ear-bug for you).

    The Department of State paid more than $15,000 for rooms at the Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver upon its opening in February, according to The Washington Post.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341676-department-of-state-paid-15000-for-trump-hotel-rooms-report

    Tillman (a95660)

  48. With apologies to the late Mr. Palmer:

    How can it be permissible?
    He compromised my principles, yeah yeah
    That kind of scam is mythical
    He’s anything but typical
    He’s a craze you’d endorse, He’s a powerful force
    You’re obliged to conform when there’s no other course
    He used to look good to me, but now I find him
    Simply irresistible, Simply irresistible
    His cult is so powerful, huh
    It’s simply unavoidable
    The trend is irreversible
    The Captain is invincible
    He’s a natural law, and he leaves me in awe
    He deserves the applause, I surrender because
    He used to look good to me, but now I find him
    Simply irresistible, Simply irresistible
    Simply irresistible (He’s so vain, there’s no tellin’ where the money went)
    Simply irresistible (he’s all mine, there’s no other way to go)

    Tillman (a95660)

  49. Russian Lawyer Who Met Trump Jr. Saw a Clinton Scandal in Tax Inquiry

    Around the time of last summer’s meeting with Trump Jr., Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya was peddling a new political spin on a well-worn international scandal, according to one person familiar with her work. She was focusing on hedge fund manager William Browder, the subject of her scorn and of a film she was promoting, and on Ziff Brothers Investments LLC, which had invested with Browder, the person said.

    Russian prosecutors said they were opening new lines of inquiry against these investors. What Veselnitskaya saw in these steps were alleged tax improprieties that would be a black mark on the Democratic Party, because Browder and at least one member of the wealthy Ziff family had contributed to the Clinton Global Initiative, the person said.

    Perhaps the next part explains why the meeting was rescheduled after Junior indicated Kushner and Manafort would attend.

    Browder described the matter as“stale FSB allegations” recycled from a decade earlier, referring to a Russian security agency. He added that Veselnitskaya was well known for her opposition to the Magnitsky Act and that she and “her Russian backers probably had a number of carrots they were trying to dangle in front of the Trumps.”

    There is no indication that the Trump team attempted to make use of any information about Browder or Ziff. And anyone might have shrugged at their contributions to the Clinton Global Initiative: Browder’s firm, Hermitage Capital, is listed as a contributor of $10,000 to $25,000 because he paid to attend a CGI conference about a decade ago. Ziff Brothers’ Daniel Ziff is recorded as contributing $50,000 to $100,000 to CGI.

    The Clinton Global Initiative didn’t respond to requests for comment.

    Kushner’s father in fact was a contributor. Charles Kushner has given the Clinton group $250,000 to $500,000, based on the records on the website. According to Veselnitskaya’s description of the Trump Tower meeting on NBC, Jared Kushner left after only a few minutes. The Kushners did not respond to requests for comment.

    crazy (11d38b)

  50. “do seem to have found something with Junior that may not be a crime (but not for lack of trying on Junior’s part).”

    For those like us, but ‘wrong’ sometimes is hard to show short attention spans it’s illegal. Plenty of room for mischief by usual suspects.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  51. With apologies Tom Lehrer:

    First you get down on your knees,
    Thank God it’s not Hillary,
    Bow your head with great respect,
    Cry Reaganesque, Reaganesque, Reaganesque!

    Do whatever slams you want, though
    Once you’ve cleared them with Bill Kristol;
    Everybody take a swipe
    At the P and his hot wife,
    Doin’ the Donald Trump rag.

    Get in line in that processional,
    Next to Rex the gas professional,
    There, the Steve who’s media savvy’ll
    Tell you if your fake’s original.
    If it is, try playin’ it smarta,
    Mak’em whine like Jim Acosta,
    Two, four, six, eight,
    Time to bring up Watergate!

    So get down upon your knees,
    Thank God it’s not Hillary,
    Bow your head with great respect,
    Cry Reaganesque, Reaganesque, Reaganesque!

    Make a cross and shout an Amen,
    Islam hated Ronald Reagan,
    Ave Melania,
    Gee that looks good on ya,
    Gettin’ ecstatic an’
    Sorta dramatic an’
    Doin’ the Donald Trump rag!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. Had the surreal experience on the radio today of listening to Senators from a party that supports sanctuary cities grilling an FBI nominee on whether he will insist the President follows the law.

    Didn’t see any LOLs over that.

    harkin (a91251)

  53. “The W.H. is functioning perfectly, focused on HealthCare, Tax Cuts/Reform & many other things. I have very little time for watching T.V.”

    He can squeeze a lot of lies into one tweet.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  54. The GOP should run ads, 24/7, showing Obama promising “flexibility” after the election and saying THIS is collusion with Russia, and that the Democrats thought it was just fine.

    The best defense is offense, and the best offense is putting the other side on defense.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  55. As we have seen.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  56. Probably the greatest failing of this administration is their inability to play the game. Unless the game is “screaming piñata.”

    Kevin M (752a26)

  57. Desperate MSM and Dems are in the market for Nothingburgers big time, they’re so ravenous they’ll buy anything even shimmering Summer mirages of fruitcakes dancing on overheated dead-end pavements. Or, self-reflections in wavy full length Crazy House mirrors.

    Let them slake their bloodthirst on the grapes of wrath and sell their bile to each other. No one else is buying.

    ropelight (a7d89c)

  58. #57, KM, the way to put Dems on defense is to indict them.

    ropelight (a7d89c)

  59. The gnashing of teeth is ever-background noise with decibel spikes that substitute for signal. Distortion is the Signal.

    When the Galtright cans their alternate facts defense mechanisms and cease making excuses/justifying wrongdoing before a century of water has passed under that bridge, the sooner we can deal with China. This goes double for Leftists.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  60. Distortion is the Signal.

    (Paraphrasing Nietzsche)

    If you stare into the chaos, the chaos also stares into you.

    Tillman (a95660)

  61. If you stare too long into a bowl of chili, you won’t want to eat it.

    nk (dbc370)

  62. @64. Depends on how hungry you are– if you’re desperate, you’ll eat anything.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. this is getting silly

    now we have wall street journal fake news propaganda sluts making pretendsies that failmerica’s corrupt “intelligence community” filth haven’t already illegally trawled through everything they have to find dirt on President Trump

    but check this out

    Then, in the spring of 2016, U.S. intelligence officials’ suspicions about Russian meddling in the election grew after their counterparts in Europe warned that Russian money might be flowing into the presidential election, according to officials with knowledge of the warning. It remains unknown if or whether those funds were funneled to a particular campaign or to others to spend it on behalf of candidates.

    So basically failmerica’s cowardly criminal spy trash “community” suspected the same thing Donald Jr. suspected when he accepted a meeting with that Russian hooch. But they sat on their overpaid flabby spy trash asses until now watching underaged tranny porn and eating pop tarts ouy of a filthy break room microwave?

    CIA NSA FBI

    Losers.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. eating pop tarts *out* of a filthy break room microwave i mean

    i’d go back and fix it if i could

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. Trump puts up a Russian Front: says he knew nothing about and was never told of his son’s meeting w/t Rooskie lawyer.

    The video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  66. Worried about foreign monies flowing into the country around election time? Where the he’ll were they during Clinton’s China dealings or Obama’s 2008 and 2012 credit card fraud schemes?

    NJRob (91d741)

  67. I would just declassify every corrupt dealing Clinton and Podesta had with Russia. F them.

    NJRob (91d741)

  68. yeah something’s not adding up huh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  69. Fusion GPS’ name keeps popping up everywhere….they lobbied against the Magnitsky Act alongside Veselnitskaya, and are accused by the victim (Browder) of the fraud that led to the Act of having strong ties to the Kremlin:

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/fusion-gps-dossier-russia-trump-jr-christopher-steele-democrat-planned-parenthood-glenn-simpson-peter-fritsch-natalia-veselnitskaya-grassley-hearing/

    Fusion GPS has already denied any knowledge of the Trump/Manafort/Kushner/Veselnitskaya meeting.

    And Veselnitskaya in the U.S. illegally – overstayed her visa:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/07/how-did-that-russian-lawyer-get-to-stay-in-the-u-s.php

    Could it be possible this is all leading back to the Democrats? Naw, couldn’t be….

    Lenny (5ea732)

  70. Want to know who are the huge liars are? The ones that have been telling everyone who would listen for 20+ years how corrupt and terrible the Clinton’s are, and how the progressives are destroying the country, that are now making common cause with both to destroy the administration that is trying to rescue America from the anti-American globalist socialists intent on transforming America from a super power into a run of the mill third world crap hole.

    It’s become obvious conservative writers that have been warning us about the direction of the country didn’t believe what they were peddling. That’s why now we are subject to endless fantasies about the Trumps nefarious dealings with the Russians, in collusion with open border socialist progressives that really want to be like the USSR Russia of yore.

    Nevertrumpers have become the 21st century version of useful idiots. Of all the things going on in the world, good and bad, what they are obsessed with is the democrat press’s obsession with Russian’s under their bed. All sound and fury signifying nothing; the ultimate squirrel.

    Trump is a choir boy compared to those advancing CNN’s agenda and calling him a liar. The truth is not in them, and their honor an illusion.

    Bladerunner (568097)

  71. @82. Trump is a choir boy compared to those advancing CNN’s agenda and calling him a liar. The truth is not in them, and their honor an illusion.

    You’re tone deaf.

    “I’ve done… questionable things.” – Roy Batty [Rutger Hauer] ‘Blade Runner’ 1982

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. ^- @73. Typo.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  73. “You’re tone deaf”

    And you’re useful.

    Bladerunner (568097)

  74. @75/@77: “That was irrational of you… not to mention unsportsmanlike.” – Roy Batty [Rutger Hauer] ‘Blade Runner’ 1982

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  75. #62 wasn’t intended as a duck call..

    Quack! Quack!

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  76. Bladerunner thinks way ahead to DysTrumpia.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  77. If Beldar comes out like Cassius Clay, the circle remains unbroken.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  78. Could it lead back to the Democrats?
    Sure take a look at 2 pages from the DNC emails: DNC 5/16/16 Daily Update – Donald Trump Roundup extracts Trump-Russia connections to Asa and Emin Agalarov and Goldstone from Politico article on Miss Universe in Moscow and also DNC 5/16/16 Trump in Music Video reporting Music video by Emin Agalarov, son of Putin-tied, Russian real estate oligarch Featuring Donald Trump (Emin: In Another Life). Trump appears near the end.

    crazy (11d38b)

  79. “Bladerunner thinks way ahead to DysTrumpia.”

    Nevertrumpers told us electing Clinton would be no worse than Trump.

    US Approves $3.9 Billion Patriot Missile System For Romania; Putin: “We Will Be Forced To Respond”

    Yeah, Trump is quite the Russian stooge…

    Bladerunner (568097)

  80. Sessions, the miniature cowboy, has gotten himself mixed up with some more Christian nazis…wiki makes them seem almost neighborly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defending_Freedom

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  81. June 3, 2016 eighteen days after the 5/16/16 Politico article referenced in the DNC Daily Trump Roundup Goldstone contacts Junior with the interesting news he just heard from Emin…

    Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

    crazy (11d38b)

  82. She is Kremlin-connected, not a random Russian citizen as the hacks tried to portray her.”

    An assertion not supported by the link. Not surprising, on account of you being a huge liar.

    Witness: Proud Prolifer’s last comment on this site, preserved for posterity. A combination of dishonesty and false accusation that is not tolerated here.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  83. i think the Profiler person got confuzzled between “Kremlin” and KGB

    they both start with a K

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  84. Junior’s meeting with the Kremlin-connected lawyer — and she is Kremlin-connected, not a random Russian citizen as the hacks tried to portray her

    It’s clear she is Kremlin-connected given her credentials and contacts; ABC News did a piece on her tonight and has a CSPAN image of her in the front row of a Russian sanctions hearing in Congress just four days after the meeting w/The Trump Boys- Manny, Moe and Don. That’s not exactly an easy seat to score if you’re a ‘random Russian citizen’ on a visit – let alone a random, native-born U.S. citizen either.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  85. wait you got the name wrong it’s Prolifer not Profiler

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  86. people are questioning how pro-Putin the russian hooch is

    “Kremlin-connected” is a very vague descriptor.

    even National Soros Radio says this:

    Veselnitskaya is a Russian lawyer, who, like many involved in the Trump and Russia saga, isn’t directly employed by the Russian government but has a number of deeper government ties. The Russian government often operates by using not only its own employees but those with informal or personal relationships to its key leaders.

    that sounds like npr poopy-twaddle to me

    journalism pro-tip: if you don’t know who this skank is and have no idea what her relationship is to the Russian government, it’s ok to say so

    you’re welcome

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  87. @84. Yeah, Trump is quite the Russian stooge…

    Quite the SchMoe indeed– w/Curlish tendencies.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  88. Sessions is gonna crap himself out one way or the other…sorry Loofa, sorry Mo.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  89. Jeff Sessions is a useless and over-promoted wad of dork and he’s not even the real Attorney General

    he should go back to the trailer park he came from

    Rod’s so got this

    and Jeff you’ve already embarrassed yourself beyond rehabilitation

    when your indelible legacy is that you played a key role in positioning slimy FBI turdboy Robert Mueller as Special Fuhrer in charge of an ever-expanding army of fascist harvardtrash

    maybe it’s best to quit when you’re behind

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. Yes, it’s something, but will they hang pictures in their living room walls.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  91. lol he’s from filthy-assed soldier-slaughtering George W. Bush’s old stomping grounds

    (back when he trusted himself to have a grown-up adult beverage)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. “A combination of dishonesty and false accusation that is not tolerated here”

    Well, except for your characterizations of Trump…

    Bladerunner (568097)

  93. Veselnitskaya is a Russian lawyer, who, like many involved in the Trump and Russia saga, isn’t directly employed by the Russian government but has a number of deeper government ties. The Russian government often operates by using not only its own employees but those with informal or personal relationships to its key leaders.

    And that’s something unusual? Like the U.S. government doesn’t? Snowden and Winter were private contractors, not NSA employees. So were the lawyers who defended the visa ban EO in the Ninth Circuit. You can’t throw a rock without hitting some private person doing U.S. government work. Why are Russians different?

    nk (dbc370)

  94. i guess my point is it makes a hash of the faux-certitude contained in a namby-pamby descriptor like “Kremlin-connected”

    what does that mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. I fixed the handle of the person I banned.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  96. “A combination of dishonesty and false accusation that is not tolerated here”

    Well, except for your characterizations of Trump…

    Bladerunner (568097) — 7/12/2017 @ 7:30 pm

    Bye.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  97. Two banned in one thread. I think that’s a record. Who wants to go for the hat trick? Call me a liar and I’ll happily accommodate you.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  98. Veselnitskaya is a Russian lawyer, who, like many involved in the Trump and Russia saga, isn’t directly employed by the Russian government but has a number of deeper government ties. The Russian government often operates by using not only its own employees but those with informal or personal relationships to its key leaders.

    what’s also interesting about the NPR propaganda prose is how the second sentence doesn’t amplify anything in the preceding sentence

    it’s an ungainly parenthetical without the parentheses

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. I don’t think that disagreeing with your characterization is the same as calling you a liar.

    If you think so, then you’ll soon have a comment section of sychophants.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  100. I don’t think that disagreeing with your characterization is the same as calling you a liar.

    If you think so, then you’ll soon have a comment section of sychophants.

    Neither do I! Fortunately, I have banned only two people in this thread, both of whom did quite explicitly call me a liar. If you do not understand that then you need to go back and re-read the offending comments.

    Whatever other problems I might have, I appear to be in very little danger of having a comment section of sycophants.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  101. got your back

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  102. 106 — LOL. I think you are right.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  103. sycophant (n.)
    1530s (in Latin form sycophanta), “informer, talebearer, slanderer,” from Middle French sycophante and directly from Latin sycophanta, from Greek sykophantes “false accuser, slanderer,” literally “one who shows the fig,” from sykon “fig” (see fig) + phainein “to show” (from PIE root *bha- (1) “to shine”).

    “Showing the fig” was a vulgar gesture made by sticking the thumb between two fingers, a display which vaguely resembles a fig, itself symbolic of a vagina (sykon also meant “vulva”). The modern accepted explanation is that prominent politicians in ancient Greece held aloof from such inflammatory gestures, but privately urged their followers to taunt their opponents. The sense of “mean, servile flatterer” is first recorded in English 1570s.

    The explanation, long current, that it orig. meant an informer against the unlawful exportation of figs cannot be substantiated. [OED]

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sycophant

    nk (dbc370)

  104. I don’t think that disagreeing with your characterization is the same as calling you a liar.

    If that’s all Bladerunner did, I’d agree with you. But he said that Patterico’s characterization was a combination of dishonesty and false accusation. If that’s not calling our host a liar, I’m not sure what it is.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  105. Whatever other problems I might have, I appear to be in very little danger of having a comment section of sycophants.

    That’s right, as usual!

    Kevin M (752a26)

  106. 66. happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/12/2017 @ 2:56 pm

    Then, in the spring of 2016, U.S. intelligence officials’ suspicions about Russian meddling in the election grew after their counterparts in Europe warned that Russian money might be flowing into the presidential election, according to officials with knowledge of the warning. It remains unknown if or whether those funds were funneled to a particular campaign or to others to spend it on behalf of candidates.

    So basically failmerica’s cowardly criminal spy trash “community” suspected the same thing Donald Jr. suspected when he accepted a meeting with that Russian…

    They were maybe getting the same disinformation!

    Because one thing Russia was not doing was funneling money into political campaigns in the form political contributions.

    Even Marine Le Pen got only loans. And not from a Russian bank exactly, IIRC.

    Russia (Putin) wanted people to look for the wrong kind of things so that’s why this story of disguised campaign contributions was peddled. That was the standard useless anti-Russian information Russia gave others.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b0d7d)

  107. That woman is connected to so much Washington trash, she is like Typhoid Mary. Well maybe more like Heidi Fleiss
    Gotta give the media sleuths credit. They finally found a Russian they could connect to a Trump, even though she is more F-list than Kathy Griffin but funnier. Well, I have never heard her tell a joke, but somethings just are.

    The Russian version of Gloria Allred has posted Tweets and Facebook drivel that are very anti-Trump so anything she says about Trump needs to be seen through this lens as well as her V. Stiviana -like predeliction for old white anti trumper gasbags like McCain and Graham… so lets impeach and remove those two.
    That’s 1/4 of the swamp drained right there.. two old gators that gum their caviar down by the kilo and a bonus Russian snake

    steveg (e8c34d)

  108. thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump?amp

    narciso (d1f714)

  109. In an interesting coincidence http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/12/does-the-steele-dossier-describe-what-happened-in-trump-tower-meeting/

    Eleven days after Donald Trump Jr. met in his Trump Tower offices with a Kremlin-connected lawyer, former British spy Christopher Steele authored the first of 17 memos alleging various illicit connections between the Trump campaign and Russian government.

    …some elements of Steele’s June 20 memo match up loosely with what’s known about the June 9 Trump Tower meeting.

    crazy (11d38b)

  110. narciso/115

    See my comment at 72. Many saw this coming from a mile away. DC is nothing if not predictable.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  111. One figured this had to be so, the previous administration had a towel at the banya

    narciso (d1f714)

  112. Krauthammer being Krauthammer just liked the old days: http://www.yahoo.com/news/charles-krauthammer-destroys-donald-trump-092858312.html

    urbanleftbehind (c5a8f0)

  113. You would think after he totally misjudged Obama, back in 2009, krahatmmer would have reservations

    narciso (d1f714)

  114. What can you do if you are dependent on given demographic to hold doors, keep the sidewalk clear and avoid Battleship Potempkin moments on high stairwells?

    urbanleftbehind (c5a8f0)

  115. Democrat (and ex-CIA): Trump is right, Democrats did spread the ‘British dossier’ – so did the intel community

    But the most important, undisputed assessment comes from our former commander in chief and his intelligence leadership. Their view? The dossier wasn’t and isn’t worth our consideration. Yet why then did our intelligence community brief the document at all?

    Every bombshell appears to be equal parts “we need to know more” and CYA for what Clapper, Brennan, Comey, WH already knew from “routine” intel collection and may or may not have been monitoring/unmasking Trump associates properly or unproperly.

    Like this: Russian Officials Overheard Discussing Trump Associates Before Campaign Began

    Investigators are re-examining conversations detected by U.S. intelligence agencies in spring 2015 that captured Russian government officials discussing associates of Donald Trump, according to current and former U.S. officials, a move prompted by revelations that the president’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year.

    Kushner is told his SF-86 doesn’t adequately detail meetings with foreigners. He ammends it to include Don Jr’s meeting that leaks and becomes the next bombshell. Junior’s shifting explanations demand further investigation. Junior dumps the email chain and gives Hannity a lengthy interview. Now Mueller is said to be investigating and voila the worldwide take happens to have 2 year old communications responsive to the demand for more information. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    Let the chips fall where they may but it’s equally possible that the leaks are all about finding a justification for why the Obama people were following the Trump team at the same time the FISC was scolding them for excessive liberties in monitoring US persons.

    Protect the innocent – prosecute the guilty, whoever they are.

    crazy (11d38b)

  116. Except the guilty are unaccountable

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ArturoVen85/status/690326348955410432?p=v

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. Heh.

    “POTUS’ TV habit: “He showed me his DIRECTV list…he records a lot. If it’s not about him, then [channel click noise]. He watches all five Sunday shows every Sunday at some point in time.”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  118. narciso, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that every time McCain tells US there are more shoes to drop they all seem to have come from Steele’s closet that was opened a year ago.

    crazy (11d38b)

  119. Apparently crazy.

    narciso (9a1aaf)

  120. With apologies to George M.

    Donnie, do your tweet,
    Do a tweet, make it sweet,
    Donnie show your base,

    Show that style; in your face.
    Zing the press and let’em fly,
    So the tweet’s another lie.
    Hurry right away,
    No delay, Bastille Day,
    Oogle Brigitte fast
    The parade; it won’t last.
    Tell Melania not to whine,
    Anything she wears looks fine.

    Over there, over there,
    Send the word, send the word over there –
    That the Trumps are coming,
    With noses thumbing,
    To French ho-humming
    Everywhere.
    So prepare, say a prayer,
    Send the word, to the world to beware.
    An insult thrower, Jim won’t go over
    And his tweets won’t stop when he’s over
    Over there.

    DCSCA (797bc0)


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