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6/23/2017

Surprising Number Of Threats And Attacks Against GOP Congressmen

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:42 pm

[guest post by Dana]

A report notes that 30 GOP congressmen have been attacked or been the victims of a death threat since May. Here are a few examples:

May 8: Wendi Wright, 35, was arrested after stalking Rep. David Kustoff (Tenn.) and trying to run him off the road. After pulling over, Wright “began to scream and strike the windows on Kustoff’s car and even reached inside the vehicle.”

June 14: Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.), and Reps. Steve Scalise (La.), Kevin Brady (Texas), Jack Bergman (Mich.), Mike Bishop (Mich.), Mike Conaway (Texas), Roger Williams (Texas), John Moolenaar (Mich.), Gary Palmer (Ala.), Chuck Fleischmann (Tenn.), Ron DeSantis (Fla.), Barry Loudermilk (Ga.), Mark Walker (N.C.), Steve Pearce (N.M.), Brad Wenstrup (Ohio), Rodney Davis (Ill.), Jeff Duncan (S.C.), Trent Kelly (Miss.), Mo Brooks (Ala.), and Joe Barton (Texas) were attacked by a gunman during a baseball practice in Alexandria, Va.

Scalise, the House majority whip, was shot in the hip, and remains in the hospital. Four others were injured, including a staffer for Williams and two Capitol Police officers assigned to Scalise.

The same day, New York Rep. Claudia Tenney received an email reading, “One down, 216 to go.”

June 17: Missouri Rep. Ann Wagner revealed that she had gotten five death threats in the weeks leading up to the Scalise shooting. Wagner said that protesters had been “vandalizing my home, showing up with masks and gravestones, and laying down on my driveway and drawing chalk outlines of dead bodies. Picketing my church at 8 and 10 o’clock Mass.”

June 22: An Ohio man was arrested for leaving a voicemail threatening the life and family of Rep. Steve Stivers (Ohio).

“We’re coming to get every goddamn one of you and your families. Maybe the next one taken down will be your daughter. Huh? Or your wife. Or even you,” the man said.

The same day, Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz played a threatening voicemail he had received on “Fox & Friends.”

“I suggest you prepare for the battle motherf**ker, and the apocalypse,” the caller yelled. “Because we are going to hunt your ass down, wrap a rope around your neck, and hang you from a lamppost.”

Aside from the law, death threats and attacks are reprehensible, and can never, ever be justified. No matter how much an individual detests Trump or how angry one might be about Hillary’s loss, nothing makes these okay. Even when it’s a GOP congressman-elect who has done the attacking, there is no justification. At the very least, let’s don’t drag Jesus into this unholy mess in an attempt to justify such behaviors – either threats of death or physical attacks:

Jesus assaulted and bodily threw the money changers out of the temple who were trespassing in Gods’ house.

Greg Gianforte emulated Jesus by assaulting Ben Jacobs, who was trespassing and invading his privacy. He also proved to be a real Montanan to his supporters who are not self-proclaimed Christians but abide by the teachings and actions of Jesus.

God help us all.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

130 Responses to “Surprising Number Of Threats And Attacks Against GOP Congressmen”

  1. Good evening.

    Dana (023079)

  2. i’m reminded of barack obama threatening to destroy the livelihoods and futures of thousands of coal miners and their families

    and then doing it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Greetings:

    Growing up Catholic in the Bronx of the ’50s and ’60s, Jesus and the money-changers in the Temple was always my favorite New Testament story. It almost always provoked my “Rock ’em Jesus, sock ’em Jesus, go God go.” cheer.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  4. It’s all the Republican’s fault.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  5. “The Founding Fathers wouldn’t have put up with any of this sh*t. The Founders started blowing people’s heads off because the government put a tax on their breakfast beverage….and it wasn’t even coffee. Can you imagine how batshit crazy those guys would have been on a double espresso?”
    —– Dennis Miller

    If you think the number of threats is surprising, you haven’t been paying attention. Just listen to any of your local, garden variety progressives. The media, Democrats, GOPe, and DC bureaucrats are complicit in this as well as the coup against the constitutionally elected govt. And no one (except J. Christian Adams and the odd Rep congress critter), is fighting back. Instead, you argue over legal arcana while the opposition is administering a thousand cuts as a prelude to their carpet bombing. Outrage isn’t a weapon.

    Lenny (5ea732)

  6. Obama and his legacy will be written in blood.

    mg (31009b)

  7. I’m not surprised. Leftists treat us like we are all Nazis. We have no more free speech rights than Nazis have. They form up gangs and walk around with baseball bats. They throw bricks at us if we gather in a park to wave the American flag. They are convinced that Trump is Hitler. If they had the opportunity to kill him, they would. And they would eagerly saw off his head and hold it up for the cameras. The only false note about Kathy Griffin’s photoshoot is that she wasn’t smiling like Jared Loughner because that’s what a typical liberal would look like with Trump’s head dangling from their hand.

    They spread fear and dread, with paranoid conspiracy theories about Russian puppet masters. That has the effect of stirring up crazy people to do crazy things. It’s irresponsible and it constitutes hate speech. (Hate speech that is protected by the Constitution…)

    Daryl Herbert (7be116)

  8. Democrats are incapable of understanding the idea of trade-offs (TANSTAAFL). If they did, they wouldn’t be Democrats. They are incapable of understanding the need to fix the mess Obama created, because they are blind to their own faults (they are incapable of perceiving downsides/costs to their policies). They believe that their policies are good policies (the policies that all good people support), and good policies have no downsides, so therefore there is nothing to fix. If Trump wants to make changes, to them it can only be because he is wicked (because he is not a good person, he doesn’t support good person policies, therefore he is not a good person).

    When is the last time you heard a Democrat say, “yes, this particular social policy that we want everyone to adopt has some significant drawbacks that will impose serious costs on the community, but on balance it’s better than the alternative”? Never. Anyone who perceives a reason not to support their policies (e.g., sees drawbacks to the policy) is committing sin/error. If you even contemplate the economic harm caused by raising the minimum wage to $15/hour, you are demonstrating a capacity for sin. They don’t try to debate facts, they try to shame people into silence and submission. By even attempting to have the debate, you mark yourself as a heretic and a sinner. We are dealing with religious zealots. It is no surprise that religious zealots want to murder heretics.

    It’s no surprise that Democrats are in favor of policies that massively increase the deficit/national debt. They are literally incapable of perceiving the cost of an increased deficit/debt, because they have lobotomized themselves in the name of virtue.

    They look at it and see nothing, like the robots in Westworld that are programmed to be incapable of noticing certain details.

    When a political party collectively decides that simple arithmetic is “wrongthink,” they are actively suppressing the simple statement that “2+2=4.”

    Daryl Herbert (7be116)

  9. This has so incensed the California AG that he’s now banning state travel to Texas, Alabama, South Dakota and Kentucky North Carolina, Kansas, Mississippi and Tennessee.

    Oh, wait that was for another reason. An anti-Christian travel ban.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/23/citing-lgbt-discrimination-california-bans-state-travel-kentucky-and-three-other-states/424211001/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

    But still, this is where the hate comes from: Democrat officials demonizing the majority of Americans.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  10. I would love to see it if Trump signed an executive order banning federal contracts with California companies until the religious rights of Christians were restored there.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  11. “One down, 216 to go.”

    Arithmetic is not their strong suit.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  12. http://www.kwqc.com/content/news/Facebook-CEO-visits-Wilton-Iowa–430471473.html
    Zuckerturd is the type of ingrate WE must stop. WE need to stop him in his tracks. When this hack can’t get off his plane, we will have victory in our grasp.

    mg (31009b)

  13. What the heck is surprising about it?

    When Scott Pelley on CBS says that Scalise’s wounds were “to a degree, self-inflicted” and the moon bats are told daily that any change to Obamacare will kill 20 million, nothing should surprise anyone.

    harkin (536957)

  14. It’s all the Republican’s fault.

    AZ Bob (f7a491) — 6/23/2017 @ 10:32 pm

    The correction at the bottom is so damning of the Times. The Times is just like Breitbart.com. Everything, every tragedy, every success, is to be spun into ammo.

    I would love to see it if Trump signed an executive order banning federal contracts with California companies until the religious rights of Christians were restored there.

    Kevin M (752a26) — 6/24/2017 @ 2:09 am

    A first step towards creating the two or more countries that are tied together only by each side’s zeal to control the other. Why on earth am I governed by a New York Values guy like Trump or Hillary or Obama? There’s no reason for a government to be so huge and so powerful.

    The idea of state’s rights has failed or been defeated depending on point of view, and we would be fine just being different states entirely.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  15. The prog vision required a senate untied to the Legislatures of the
    states from which they come from, hence a mike mansfield or a William fulbright

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. And the FBI says that the baseball game shooter was motivated by anger management issues.

    We live in a reality which the government does not share.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  17. And the flint slashed was a low risk profile.

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. This has so incensed the California AG that he’s now banning state travel to Texas, Alabama, South Dakota and Kentucky North Carolina, Kansas, Mississippi and Tennessee.

    Which means less work for those states’ vice squads, not to mention safer playgrounds and fewer potheads on their highways.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. Just like John roll is a nonperson, because the sainted gabby gifford has to cast as Jim Brady.

    narciso (d1f714)

  20. The FBI only solves crimes it has committed and not all of those either.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. Just ask whitey bulger its sad because in real life no one bothered to info
    Rate his organization, but he had plenty of moles like connelly.

    narciso (d1f714)

  22. On a smaller scale we have this fellow:

    http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKnavarrete.htm

    He was the keynwitness against Orlando Bosch, he admitted in a depo
    have planted the Cubans airlines bomb, in the unrelated matter

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. So the lesson is clear, GOP reps are unpeople, and do deserve that’s coming to thrm, deems are untouchable except for wiener, who is beyond salvaging.

    narciso (d1f714)

  24. That’s a keeper, Hoagie!

    Colonel Haiku (c1f7e8)

  25. Hereby dedicating this short video to disgruntled lefties and #NeverTrump, hoping they are able to get over it at some point and join the gruntled!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkKOgs7Tdzw

    Colonel Haiku (c1f7e8)

  26. 18, not knowing his cyberfootprint, he kind of was…over 50, could have passed for many other ethncities, I would have thought even Jewish.

    urbanleftbehind (0870d7)

  27. The thing is, what we are watching are the death throes of a Political Elite, and they really aren’t that bad….yet. The Republican Elite that held sway until the Depression went relatively quietly. The Planter Aristocracy needed a Civil War to oust them. The European Aristocracy took a revolution or two, several vicious continental wars, and a long time to fade into deserved obscurity. Who knows how long it will take the Progressive Elitists to retire from the field.

    But its clear that they have no intention to go quietly, and have yet to grasp that a lot of the people they are proposing to attack go to gun ranges for fun.

    C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37)

  28. Fits of laughter in our house. Thanks, Rev.

    mg (31009b)

  29. “Surprising”

    – Dana

    By no means.

    And, of course, Gianforte gets a nod – an unsurprising genuflection to moral relativism. That’s how hate principled criticism works.

    It really is a binary choice.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  30. he made that guy drop his notebook

    he’s a goddamn monster

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  31. LOL

    ThOR (c9324e)

  32. Well I would prefer we not go the way of the Ukrainian and Taiwanese parliaments but if doc brown is going to call us the death party.

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. This is all about the “othering” of Trump and what comes of it.

    What’s surprising about the chickens coming home to roost?

    ThOR (c9324e)

  34. Although there was a quantum increase after the huntress was hung inneffigy and her church was set ablaze, that was the interval where what we now know as antifa set fire tie the governors mansion in austin

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. CNN is still peddling fake news.

    Imagine that.

    CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump transition team to Russia.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cnn-deletes-retracts-story-linking-trump-transition-team-to-russia/article/2626997

    harkin (209597)

  36. the cnn kathy griffin fake news propaganda sluts should stick to assassination porn

    it’s all about building on your strengths

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  37. The person who placed the word “surprising” in the headline is so out of touch that they shouldn’t be allowed access to the internet, or sharp objects.

    Deuce Frehley (7654f5)

  38. The idea of state’s rights has failed or been defeated depending on point of view, and we would be fine just being different states entirely.

    ASs usual, Dustin, you miss the point, which is “two can play this game, you morons” and the federal government has far more cards.

    For a state to impose sanctions on other states is already anathema to the idea of Union. California is now imposing sanctions on EIGHT states because they pass laws to protect religious beliefs from the State. It is NOT discrimination to refuse to participate in something you view as sin, whether the sin is same sex marriage or burning coal.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  39. It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

    – Barack Obama

    This quote is helpful in the extreme once you realize it is the acme of Freudian projection. In that context, the current behavior of the Left and the #NeverTrump right are near-perfectly explained. It is a manifesto of cultural intolerance and economic class bigotry that could not be more hostile to the Founding Principles.

    James Hodgkinson got the message and acted on it, while scores of others are still getting up their nerve. That will come.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  40. #27. If only it was margarine. More like “Trump Spread”, although marketing is looking for a better name.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  41. The British left is quite nearly feral, and there wee an attempt of a ftenc right figure this week.

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. Just a reminder, but the leftist politicians and their media cohorts are back to saying that Republicans are trying to kill millions of poor people with their health insurance proposal.

    Boy that truce lasted as long as the last one between Israel and the fake Palestinians. Just like it too as the left never stopped dropping bombs.

    NJRob (0551a6)

  43. Yes, I agree, TRUMP is DANGEROUS. President Trump has a history of being DANGEROUS and also being a complete and UTTER FUX UP POLIICIAN. Mister Trump has been known FOREVER, to be a BIGOT and ANTI-GAY ETC ETC ETC VOMIT. Mister Trump has put AMERICA into 19.5 TRILLLLLLLLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, Unlike Barry Jug Ears Von Ayers.

    This blog has become CLOWNISH!! PATTY SNOWFLAKE!!!! How’s your NEW CAREER working out??? CLOWN.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  44. Originally, the “lone wolf” was a term used to describe followers of neo-nazi and similar schemes maybe thirty years ago. This person absorbed the unhinged crap spread by the Bigs in the movement. And, eventually, the unhinged acted on it. The key was nobody could ever find direct comms from the actor to the Movement, whatever it was. Nobody could find a letter addressed to “Harly Unhinged” from the Major Neo Nazi.
    As usual, the rightist lone wolves’ violence has been hugely exaggerated, mostly by referring to it in tones of horror (since the numbers aren’t there).
    It worked for the neo-nazis, it works for the jihadis, and it’s working for the left.
    Spread the rhetoric and the unhinged will act. It’s not an accident. It’s purposeful.

    Richard Aubrey (a09608)

  45. I know I’m not welcome here but has anyone seen this ?

    The FBI received a copy of the Democrat-funded dossier in August, during the heat of the campaign, and is said to have contracted in October to pay Steele $50,000 to help corroborate the dirt on Trump — a relationship that “raises substantial questions about the independence” of the bureau in investigating Trump, warned Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.

    Mike K (f97920)

  46. 42… it’s gonna wash that taste right out of their pieholes…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. 48. Yes. I saw the story on page 8 of today’s New York Post that Powerline links to.

    What struck me was that the Senate Judiciary Committee has threatened to subpoena Fusion GPS, because they are not co-operating. It seems like the Senate Judiciary Committee is getting interested in investigating aspects of the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign and the neutrality of the FBI.

    Of course, it was known that Hillary Clinton supporters were responsible for hiring Christopher Steele although there were attempts to obscure this, so they are really atte,pting to verify the obvious.

    Fusion GPS, it was reported last year, was first hired by some anti-Trump Republican(s) Which may hae been a laundry for HRC, but anyway Trump gave up so dems had to be brought in as the clients. Steele was hired only in June. So all that waa after only Dems were involved.

    However, what seems to happened is not that Steele made it up, but that Putin made it up.

    ..thinking Steele was reporting to British intelligence or someone else in the U.K, and not American opponents of Trump. He was looking past the election, expecting the UK to keep it secret.

    Steele also genuinely believed what he was told, not knowing enough about Trump – or even Russia, because certain errors were planted in the disinformation in order to be able to take it back if it backfired – to know it had to be falae.

    It is also posisble he stumbled upon some real information and then he was supplied with a lot of wrong information in order to turn all his reporting into garbage.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  48. From Mike K’s link:

    Senate investigators are demanding to see records of communications between Fusion GPS and the FBI and the Justice Department, including any contacts with former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, now under congressional investigation for possibly obstructing the Hillary Clinton email probe, and deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, who is under investigation by the Senate and the Justice inspector general for failing to recuse himself despite financial and political connections to the Clinton campaign through his Democrat activist wife. Senate investigators have singled out McCabe as the FBI official who negotiated with Steele.

    That is troubling if it’s true, and it sounds credible. I know this is a wild idea but someone in power should consider reassigning or firing all the Obama appointees.

    DRJ (15874d)

  49. Maybe someone should have thought to do it on Day One.

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. 48. Comey said that he told Trump on january 6 that they did not then have an OPEN counterintelligence investigation into Trump. He implied there was at that time a possiblilty they might in the future but said nothing about a CLOSED one in the past.

    Which I think there’s a good reason to think existed.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  51. DRJ for AGOTUS!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. The whole GD’d bunch ought to be indicted for their ongoing attempts to overthrow the last election and for their deep state, Big Brother crimes. Let’s see these lawyers who are the linchpins of our legal system do their effing job.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. I know this is a wild idea but someone in power should consider reassigning or firing all the Obama appointees.

    sleazy corrupt fbi bimbo Andrew McCabe isn’t an obama appointee

    he was appointed deputy director by corrupt and womanish FBI director James Comey and then became acting director after comey got fired for behavior what was considered too erratic and sleazy even for a scummy FBI bimbo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. He was employed during Obama’s tenure and while they may not be able to fire him, he can be reassigned. Especially if Trump had fired Comey on Day One and named a successor FBI Director(which he has yet to do).

    DRJ (15874d)

  55. coulda been so beautiful coulda been so right

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. When did you decide to make “womanish” a derogatory term?

    DRJ (15874d)

  57. it’s my comey word it’s an apt and it is so lovely

    he wears it well

    like a string of pearls one saves for a magical evening

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  58. They won’t because holding true powerbrokers accountable is a theoretical exercise. All of these admonitions of “should’ve done this”, “must do that”, “if only” is garbage. The only people held accountable for their actions are those outside the circles of power… people whose activities or alleged crimes usually affect the few, as opposed to the true criminals in the bureaucracy whose actions or willful inaction can affect the lives of tens of millions.

    You won’t see even a hair on their heads get mussed. Fat pensions all around funded by the taxpaying suckers.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  59. btw when has womanish *not* been a derogatory term? my whole life it been like that!

    (of a man) effeminate; unmanly.

    “Burden thought him a weak womanish fool”

    synonyms: effeminate, girlish, girly, unmanly, unmasculine, epicene

    “James Comey’s first stage role was that of a womanish baker from Brooklyn”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. I may have it straight now.

    There were two stories about an email – one in the New York Times and one in the Washington Post.

    The New York Times story appeared in April and was vague about this:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html

    During Russia’s hacking campaign against the United States, intelligence agencies could peer, at times, into Russian networks and see what had been taken. Early last year, F.B.I. agents received a batch of hacked documents, and one caught their attention.

    The document, which has been described as both a memo and an email, was written by a Democratic operative who expressed confidence that Ms. Lynch would keep the Clinton investigation from going too far, according to several former officials familiar with the document.

    Read one way, it was standard Washington political chatter. Read another way, it suggested that a political operative might have insight into Ms. Lynch’s thinking.

    Normally, when the F.B.I. recommends closing a case, the Justice Department agrees and nobody says anything. The consensus in both places was that the typical procedure would not suffice in this instance, but who would be the spokesman?

    The document complicated that calculation, according to officials. If Ms. Lynch announced that the case was closed, and Russia leaked the document, Mr. Comey believed it would raise doubts about the independence of the investigation.

    Mr. Comey sought advice from someone he has trusted for many years. He dispatched his deputy to meet with David Margolis, who had served at the Justice Department since the Johnson administration and who, at 76, was dubbed the Yoda of the department.

    What exactly was said is not known. Mr. Margolis died of heart problems a few months later. But some time after that meeting, Mr. Comey began talking to his advisers about announcing the end of the Clinton investigation himself, according to a former official.

    David Margolis died on Tuesday July 12, 2016, so that would place the time Comey consulted him no later than April or May. He had been at D0J for 51 years, since 1965. Margolis was born Dec. 18, 1939 so that makes Dec 19, 2015 the earliest possible date. He is not to be confused with another David Margolis (1930-2008) who, unlike him, has a Wikipedia entry.

    The Washington Post story ran a month later and said:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-a-dubious-russian-document-influenced-the-fbis-handling-of-the-clinton-probe/2017/05/24/f375c07c-3a95-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html

    In the midst of the 2016 presidential primary season, the FBI received what was described as a Russian intelligence document claiming a tacit understanding between the Clinton campaign and the Justice Department over the inquiry into whether she intentionally revealed classified information through her use of a private email server.

    The Russian document cited a supposed email describing how then-Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch had privately assured someone in the Clinton campaign that the email investigation would not push too deeply into the matter. If true, the revelation of such an understanding would have undermined the integrity of the FBI’s investigation.

    Current and former officials have said that Comey relied on the document in making his July decision to announce on his own, without Justice Department involvement, that the investigation was over. That public announcement — in which he criticized Clinton and made extensive comments about the evidence — set in motion a chain of other FBI moves that Democrats now say helped Trump win the presidential election.

    But according to the FBI’s own assessment, the document was bad intelligence — and according to people familiar with its contents, possibly even a fake sent to confuse the bureau. The Americans mentioned in the Russian document insist they do not know each other, do not speak to each other and never had any conversations remotely like the ones described in the document. Investigators have long doubted its veracity, and by August the FBI had concluded it was unreliable.

    The document, obtained by the FBI, was a piece of purported analysis by Russian intelligence, the people said. It referred to an email supposedly written by the then-chair of the Democratic National Committee, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), and sent to Leonard Benardo, an official with the Open Society Foundations, an organization founded by billionaire George Soros and dedicated to promoting democracy.

    The Russian document did not contain a copy of the email, but it described some of the contents of the purported message.

    In the supposed email, Wasserman Schultz claimed Lynch had been in private communication with a senior Clinton campaign staffer named Amanda Renteria during the campaign. The document indicated Lynch had told Renteria that she would not let the FBI investigation into Clinton go too far, according to people familiar with it.

    Current and former officials have argued that the secret document gave Comey good reason to take the extraordinary step over the summer of announcing the findings of the Clinton investigation himself without Justice Department involvement.

    Comey had little choice, these people have said, because he feared that if Lynch announced no charges against Clinton, and then the secret document leaked, the legitimacy of the entire case would be questioned.

    From the moment the bureau received the document from a source in early March 2016, its veracity was the subject of an internal debate at the FBI. Several people familiar with the matter said the bureau’s doubts about the document hardened in August when officials became more certain that there was nothing to substantiate the claims in the Russian document. FBI officials knew the bureau never had the underlying email with the explosive allegation, if it ever existed.

    Yet senior officials at the bureau continued to rely on the document before and after the election as part of their justification for how they handled the case.

    Wasserman Schultz and Benardo said in separate interviews with The Washington Post that they do not know each other and have never communicated. Renteria, in an interview, and people familiar with Lynch’s account said the two also do not know each other and have never communicated. Lynch declined to comment for this article.

    Moreover, Wasserman Schultz, Benardo and Renteria said they have never been interviewed by the FBI about the matter.

    Comey’s defenders still insist that there is reason to believe the document is legitimate and that it rightly played a major role in the director’s thinking.

    “It was a very powerful factor in the decision to go forward in July with the statement that there shouldn’t be a prosecution,” said a person familiar with the matter. “The point is that the bureau picked up hacked material that hadn’t been dumped by the bad guys [the Russians] involving Lynch. And that would have pulled the rug out of any authoritative announcement.”

    Other people familiar with the document disagree sharply, saying such claims are disingenuous because the FBI has known for a long time that the Russian intelligence document is unreliable and based on multiple layers of hearsay.

    “It didn’t mean anything to the investigation until after [senior FBI officials] had to defend themselves,” said one person familiar with the matter. “Then they decided it was important. But it’s junk, and they already knew that.”

    An FBI spokesman declined to comment. Comey did not respond to requests for comment.
    The people familiar with the Russian document spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss its contents. No one familiar with it asked The Post to withhold details about its origins to safeguard the source.

    So what we have so far is this: (there;s more)

    In March 2016, the FBI gets what purports to be a Russian intelligence analysis that references a hacked email from Person C (DNC Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz) to Person D (Leonard Benardo, who works for a Soros backed organization) that says that Person A (Attorney General Loretta Lynch )told Person B (Clinton campaign staffer Amanda Renteria) that she would not let the FBI investigation into Clinton go too far.

    Comey consults Yoda about to do.

    Person C and D say they never emailed or communicated with each other and Person B says she never communicated with Person A. Person A declined to comment but others did for her. But that was when the Washongton Post asked in 2017. The FBI never contacted any of them in 2016.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  61. In the supposed email, Wasserman Schultz claimed Lynch had been in private communication with a senior Clinton campaign staffer named Amanda Renteria during the campaign. The document indicated Lynch had told Renteria that she would not let the FBI investigation into Clinton go too far, according to people familiar with it.

    who among us would be shocked to learn that certified laboratory tests have revealed Amanda Renteria to be 99.9% pure, sleazy harvardtrash not unlike ted cruz and jonathan soros and john roberts and mitt romney and barack obama

    come forward and drink from the chalice of troof

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  62. It was the Washington Post story probably that Comey was talking about when he said that what was reported was nonsense. (and the thing that was nonsense was that the FBI had concluded that the email was forged.)

    BURR: Were there other things that contributed to that that you can
    describe in an open session?

    COMEY: There were other things that contributed to that. One significant item I can’t, I know the committee’s been briefed on. There’s been some public accounts of it, which are nonsense, but I understand the committee’s been briefed on the classified facts.

    Note: The Spelling adia strikes again! The name that appears in the Washington Post, Benardo, probably should be Bernardo. Search both ways.

    We’ve got this, too:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/james-comey-fbi-investigation-fake-russian-intelligence/index.html

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  63. * The Spelling Mafia.

    It turns out it is Benardo, not Bernardo.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  64. Trump just ended a long tradition of celebrating Ramadan at the White House

    his wisdom is profound, and most blessed we are when we follow where he leads

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. 14. harkin (536957) — 6/24/2017 @ 4:35 am

    and the moon bats are told daily that any change to Obamacare will kill 20 million,

    That’s a thousandfold or hundredfold exaggeration.

    Topher Spiro, linked to by Hillary Clinton on Twitter, said 18,000 to 28,000 in the year 2026. Ove ten years maybe ten times as much.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/877967631734538242

    Topher Spiro @TopherSpiro

    NEW: From us and Harvard researchers: the Senate bill could result in 18,000 to 28,000 deaths in 2026. americanprogress.org/issues/healthc…

    12:12 PM – 22 Jun 2017

    Is there anyone really saying 20 million?

    Now Donald Trump, in between tweets about why didn’t the Obama Administration do anything about the Russian meddling, and anything else he can think of to say on this subject, has things about health care:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    I am very supportive of the Senate #HealthcareBill. Look forward to making it really special! Remember, ObamaCare is dead.

    3:40 PM – 22 Jun 2017
    ———————————-

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Democrats slam GOP healthcare proposal as Obamacare premiums & deductibles increase by over 100%. Remember keep your doctor, keep your plan?

    5:51 AM – 24 Jun 2017

    ————————-
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    I cannot imagine that these very fine Republican Senators would allow the American people to suffer a broken ObamaCare any longer!

    1:50 PM – 24 Jun 2017

    Mitch McConnell was telling Senators that if they don’t pass a bill, the alternative will be single payer. I think that was aimed at the conservatives.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  66. hmm

    if we could show that the majority of deaths would be Republican the bloodthirsty dems would be all in

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  67. Surprising?

    LOL, has anyone been paying attention since November 2000?

    Blah (44eaa0)

  68. 70. happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/25/2017 @ 11:53 am

    if we could show that the majority of deaths would be Republican the bloodthirsty dems would be all in </blockquote. I think the Democrats are saying it's mostly people who voted for Trump.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  69. So its all a grapevine like malahathir employed against ibrahim, with some notable American cotributors

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. here’s a good post about how sleazy and dishonorable princeton-grad Robert Mueller set about corrupting the once-respected FBI and turned it into the stench-ridden sewer of corruption it is today:

    With respect to possible corruption of the FBI: I regret to say that the process began in earnest under Bush, who appointed Mueller. An acquaintance recently complained that the Bureau was no longer what it used to be, or maybe never had been. I maintained that the institutional culture was changed through the Legal Counsel Division. That’s how it always work in America, isn’t it? If you want to enforce Liberal/PC norms, you change the lawyers.

    Formerly, the Bureau’s legal division, and most top administrations positions, was/were staffed with Special Agents who were lawyers. Under Mueller, outsiders were increasingly brought in, including to Legal Counsel Division. For example: Andrew Weissman, who twice did stints at the FBI, and is now a top guy on Mueller’s Special Counsel team. That kind of back and forth between the FBI and private practice and/or other agencies was previously absolutely unheard of. And the choice tells you pretty much all you need to know about Mueller…

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  71. Kind of hard to stop the lawbreakers when the lawkeepers are in league with them.

    crazy (d3b449)

  72. how can slimy FBI trash like princeton grads Mueller and Weissman be trusted to prosecute the rampant corruption and criminality at the FBI?

    this is nuts

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  73. Consider how much of this goes unreported, too- ‘under the radar’ as it were, and not only on a national level; endured as ‘part of the job,’ by members of Congress from both major parties, but on state and local levels as well, not to mention threats faced by many is all walks of public life; from judges to teachers– even actors and reporters. America remains an angry and very violent society. ‘Leading by example’ in this arena is not the nation’s strongest suit and the world takes note.

    ________

    Today’s Beldar The Bitter ‘Watergate, Watergate, Watergate’ Words Of Wonder:

    “The Democrats had just nominated Mc– McGovern. I mean, for Christ’s sake, I mean, what the hell were we— I mean, I can see doing it earlier… but I mean, let me say, I can see the pressure, but I don’t see why all the pressure would have been on then.” – President Nixon discussing timing of Watergate break-in w/John Dean, Oval Office tapes, March 21, 1973

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  74. 75. No, the political corruption of the FBI started with the appointment of Louis Freeh in 1993, if not before. Freeh was not against Clinton – where it mattered.

    It was the FBI that started the Waco fire and lied about it. Or certain people in the FBI. William Sessions was kept from the scene at Waco, his water cannon plan was rejected in favor of a tear gas (exceppt that it said the tear gagas would only be used if firing camw from theh davidiana compound – which did not happen – but the CS tear gas started the frire and they knew it would happen.

    Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions only (two months) after the Waco fire. He wanted him to resign but he would not no matter what terems they offered him. That’s why I thought he needed “cause.”

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  75. Trump and his supporters are fighting a losing battle when they focus on criticizing and getting even with people who hurt them. Sure, it’s satisfying emotionally but they are fighting a defensive battle, and defense rarely wins. Offense wins.

    If I were Trump, dealing with the opposition he faces and also the problems he has created, I would appoint Chris Christie as FBI Director. That would be playing offense. It would upset his daughter Ivanka and SIL Jared Kushner and there might be some trust issues (let alone loyalty issues), but too bad. Christie has a background in government and law, he has a history with Trump, and I think he might take the job. Christie also comes from the urban Northeast so he speaks Trump’s language and knows how he operates. IMO Trump needs Christie or someone like him, and I can’t think of anyone like him who would take the job.

    DRJ (15874d)

  76. No matter who he picks, Trump will have to step back and let the FBI Director clean house and actually run things. That’s the rub with Trump. He can’t step back.

    DRJ (15874d)

  77. freeh was definitely a sleazy malicious dude but he didn’t try to thwart the will of the electorate and undermine democracy by doing illegal spying on one of the candidates like how slimy womanish FBI bimbo James Comey did

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  78. christie’s the softest softy on terrorism there is

    he’s weird

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  79. the corrupt sleazy FBI’s soft enough on terrorism as it is thanks

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  80. If he had done this during his transition, it would have made waves but he could have weathered the storm. Now, everything Trump does is more evidence for the court proceedings. That’s why he has to step back and let his appointees run things as it appears he has done with Mattis and Tillerson. Three are enough decisions for a president to make without trying to make the day-to-day decisions in every agency, too.

    DRJ (15874d)

  81. He doesn’t even have an FBI director so how much of Trump’s agenda is getting done there? My guess is little to none.

    DRJ (15874d)

  82. ?

    what court proceedings

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  83. Yes, the notion of duty calling and ideal of real service to the nation are really just some words. Too busy feathering nests and readying for the fat pension pot o’gold at the end of the rainbow. The Left harms the nation. Truth be told, conservatives would be fed into plastic shredders en masse if they had half a chance.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. Trump has been sued 134 as President since he was inauguruated. Given what happened with the travel ban, everything Trump says and does — on any topic — is potentially more evidence in a court case.

    DRJ (15874d)

  85. Correction: Sued 134 times since he was inaugurated.

    DRJ (15874d)

  86. Justice is best served cold…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  87. i bet you a nashville hot chicken sammich he won’t quit like weak-sauce coward sarah palin

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. “In her much-read New York Times column “Donald Skunks the Democrats,” Maureen Dowd skates quite close to the truth before swerving off into mendacious Timesland fantasy.

    Writing in the aftermath of Jon Ossoff’s embarrassing defeat by Karen Handel in Georgia, Dowd begins by acknowledging the obvious:

    You know who is really sick and tired of Donald Trump winning, to the point where they beg, “Please, Mr. President, sir, it’s too much”?

    Democrats.

    Yep. The Democrats, as Dowd, says, “just got skunked four to nothing in races they excitedly thought they could win because everyone they hang with hates Trump.”

    “To skunk,” verb, transitive: “to defeat someone overwhelmingly in a game or contest, especially by preventing them from scoring at all.”

    Why did this happen? Dowd peeps gingerly over the inky ideological carapace of the Times: “If Trump is the Antichrist, as they believe, then Georgia was going to be a cakewalk, and Nancy Pelosi was going to be installed as speaker before the midterms by acclamation.”

    “If.” But what if not? The Georgia race, just like all the other special elections since November 9, “turned into another soul-sucking disappointment

    Does that mean—could it be—that Donald Trump is not the Antichrist after all?

    The logic of Dowd’s argument hints at that awful possibility. But that flicker of sanity is quickly extinguished by a cataract of Demspeak. Dowd quotes Democratic Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio. Yes, it’s Trump 4, Dems zero, Ryan admits. But why? How could this be?

    Trump does robo calls. He tweets. He talks about the races. He motivates his base, and he moves the needle, and that’s a problem for us. Guys, we’re still doing something wrong here because a) he’s president and b) we’re still losing to his candidates.
    Memo to Tim Ryan (and please pass it along to Maureen Dowd): Republicans are winning all over the country, as much or more in local and states races as in national ones, not because Donald Trump makes robo calls, because he tweets, or because he “motivates the base.”

    Nope, the Republicans are winning everywhere because people like what they are selling. They especially like what Donald Trump is selling: an America-first attitude that unapologetically makes the U.S. economy and U.S. national security top priorities.”

    https://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2017/06/25/process-vs-product-why-the-dems-keep-losing/Process

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  89. What have said about lawfare being a trusted tool, because it works quattrine and hatfill can’t speak, the huntress was ignored when she pointed it out, walker suffered flesh wounds, but it certainly curtailed his viability, Stevens cannot respond promptly. Now sores who through splc threatens to science Hirsi ali and nomami, he is convicted in absentsia but it doesn’t matter

    narciso (d1f714)

  90. Donald Trump’s the best thing since sliced pickles

    we gonna look back on this one day and not be able to not smile

    sing it gladys

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. the huntress was ignored when she pointed it out validated the tactic

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. 92. Justice is best served cold…

    The Captain’s prefers it that way- two scoops, vanilla! With chilled chocolate cream pie…

    Or strawberries.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  93. it gittin harder to find them hayberries on sale Mr. DCSCA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. Yo mama calls, ASPCA.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  95. #64 Happyfeet is correct that Harvardtrash are at the heart of DC corruption.

    They all think they are entitled and they all love each other so much.

    What matters is the respect of fellow Ivy Leaguers and they will engineer everything to protect themselves.

    Add John Roberts …. so much Harvardtrash in DC>

    Blah (44eaa0)

  96. What would you dig if you have to chose between declaring bankruptcy and leaving office, because the lawfare machine never stops, ask walker when the witchhunt ended chisholm leaked the whole fuel to the guardian . of course we know how Obama won his senate seat, he drive the leading challengers outvof the primary

    narciso (d1f714)

  97. bankruptcy ain’t no big thing when you got cleavage like Sarah and you willing to sling it

    hunnid dollah bilz yall

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. Sean Hannity said in his opening monologue on Friday night by identifying two people who’re most responsible for reporting fake news about Trump—the presidents of CNN and NBC news.

    Then, he called Megyn Kelly out: “are you proud, Megyn?”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. The Mournful, Lonely Feminism of Chelsea Clinton’s She Persisted
    Slate Magazine – Jun 13, 2017

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  100. Chelsea Clinton: Hillary’s loss was ‘unexpected blessing’
    USA TODAY – May 31, 2017

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  101. just when you think the insipid lil soldier boy’s grown up he says the dippiest crap again

    “The policy of the United States should be regime change in Iran,” said Cotton, who reportedly briefs the White House on foreign policy on a regular basis.

    dorkwad

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  102. As opposed to giving them billions of dollars to build their bomb, under the shah we had perhaps unwarranted confidence in his regime,

    narciso (d1f714)

  103. yeah that was stupid but cotton’s writing checks our can’t-drive-a-ship navy can’t cash

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  104. Well arianna makes it work, (not really) and she Dorset her staff anything,

    narciso (d1f714)

  105. Yes olivia’hot, but remember she volunteered for wiener after the first instance.

    narciso (d1f714)

  106. it’s actually like way better than Joe the Plumber’s site

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  107. Chelsea Clinton: Hillary’s loss was ‘unexpected blessing’
    USA TODAY – May 31, 2017

    Don’t tell us, tell her.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  108. Too bad no audio available, Nars. You know, to check for Lindsay disease.

    urbanleftbehind (28170f)

  109. Hes a strigoi, I think gators would do better than litigation. But there’s even a slither one up north

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. Yes so what we are darling with sabotage of legitimate public policy, and incitement to violence, through propaganda.

    narciso (d1f714)

  111. 102. narciso (d1f714) — 6/25/2017 @ 2:46 pm

    of course we know how Obama won his senate seat, he drive the leading challengers outvof the primary </blockquote AND the general election.

    Except that it wasn’t Obama who did it. Somebody else did that for him. He didn’t have the ability to do that.

    Although he did have the ability to challenge the petitions of the incumbent in the State Senate seat he first one (she was first going to run for Congress instead, then changed her mind but Obama wouldn’t settle for her changing her mind again.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Senate_elections_of_Barack_Obama

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  112. Yes it was axelrid through his contacts with the la papers, but the point is you takevthe opponent off the biatd without direct contact. The lesson to stay. If he wins is its too expensive to prevail

    narciso (d1f714)

  113. 81. DRJ (15874d) — 6/25/2017 @ 2:02 pm

    No matter who he picks, Trump will have to step back and let the FBI Director clean house and actually run things. That’s the rub with Trump. He can’t step back.

    He picked somebody already, Christopher Wray, but he’s not officially nominated yet, because he had to go through all the conflict of interest checking.

    Therw’s some little problems:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-fbi-wray-russia-627587

    Among the people he represeneted is a victim of Putin.

    Wray is still working as Chirs Christie’s provate attorney.

    We didn’t used to do things this way (blame Proxmire) and we still don’t in the states.

    Why, in New York State, Governor Andrew Cuomo picked Joe Lhota to be chairman of MTA (Metropolitan Transportation Authority) on Wednesday, submitted his name 20 minutes later, and he had a confirmation hearing by Skype, and he was confirmed by the end of the day.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/nyregion/joseph-lhota-mta.html

    That’s how they used to do it in the federal government back in the 1880s. Exce[t they didn’t bother with committee hearings.

    Joe Lhota used to head the MTA but quit to run for mayor in 2013. He has another job now, as head of a hospital, so this time he’ll take only the Chairman position and hire somebody else as executive director.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  114. hrm… so the sleazy House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is blocking the testimony of Carter Page

    Does it surprise anyone to find out that almost 40% of the Republican majority of that committee are members of senile cowardly torture victim John McCain’s soros-funded Republican Main Street Partnership?

    Peter King
    Frank LoBiondo
    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
    Michael Turner
    Elise Stefanik

    jesus christ could these people be more rotten fascist and skanky

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. and someone for the love of god please stop beating Ileana with the ugly stick

    enough is enough

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  116. Peter king has his uses, you would rather they would have some Che adoring gal, like Magna Davis who called Fidel ‘her teacher’ or Bernie Schwartz who sold missile secrets to the Chinese subsequently (yes tossoff want the first near miss, more like the 23rd)

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. Peter King can’t be left alone with small children

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  118. She’s retiring after nearly 30 years like horatio at the gates, look we have hack worse like David rivera who was hiding the source of his income for at least 10 years in the leg.

    narciso (d1f714)

  119. Jon Ossoff in Georgia lied too. (about something anyone could have checked)

    He claimed he lived three blocks outside the district. It’s more like 3 miles.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/video-took-two-hours-walk-jon-ossoffs-house-georgias-sixth-district

    It’s longer by car.

    Maybe he had a different address in mind.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  120. 122. They have let the partisan Democrats run things. It’s not quite that way with the senate committees.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  121. Well they can I. The. Minorjty next year then, consider their latest cunning move, removing the net interest deduction, its like they looked at what the stories and said ‘hold my beer’

    narciso (d1f714)


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