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4/5/2017

Welcome To Malibu: A Sanctuary City Where Cheap Nannies And Gardeners Make It A Great Place To Live!

Filed under: General — Dana @ 5:13 pm



[guest post by Dana]

For a select few, anyway…

Recently, I posted about uber-wealthy Malibu’s hypocrisy regarding illegal immigrants. As you may recall, the residents of Malibu are very concerned about the plight of their gardeners and housekeepers during a Trump presidency…

Amusingly, the welcome sign to Malibu was altered to speak the truth of the matter:

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“OFFICIAL SANCTUARY CITY ‘Cheap Nannies and Gardeners Make Malibu Great!’ (Boyle Heights Not So Much).”

The sign was first reported around 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, after someone bolted it to an existing marker at the city’s northern limit. Anyone speeding past might have thought officials were simply taking pride in their recent decision to declare Malibu a haven for immigrants who may face deportation for crossing the border illegally — a defiant repudiation of the Trump administration’s expanded immigration enforcement priorities.

Rosenthal, who introduced the sanctuary measure to this famed beachside community several months ago, said the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department is now investigating the matter.

“Whoever did this spent some time on it,” she said.

The mayor of Malibu jumped in and revealed just how insular and tone-deaf the wealthy enclave is:

Mayor Pro Tem Skylar Peak also supported sanctuary status when it came up for a vote last month and said he didn’t know much about Boyle Heights — only that it’s a working class and mainly Latino neighborhood.

“To make a derogatory comment about that place is very childish and inappropriate. I’m embarrassed by that,” Peak said.

“We have a lot of immigrants who work in Malibu. It’s probably the majority of the employees here.”

Mayor Peak did not discuss any proposed low-cost housing to help the illegal immigrants from having to make the long commute to the beach community from those mainly Latino neighborhoods. Nor did he discuss any proposals to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair wage to their employees. But hey, they really, really do care. Just ask them:

“Our city depends on a Hispanic population to support our comfortable lifestyle,” Rosenthal read. “Do we not owe them what comfort and protections that are possible in these challenging times?”

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

59 Responses to “Welcome To Malibu: A Sanctuary City Where Cheap Nannies And Gardeners Make It A Great Place To Live!”

  1. These people.

    Dana (023079)

  2. There should be some activism and a push for low-income housing to be built there in Malibu. It’s not green, let alone humane, to expect the little people to travel long distances to their place of employment. This elitism must not stand!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. Malibu Councilman Skylar Peak was sent involuntarily to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation and faces a police investigation after a run-in with security guards at a Point Dume shopping center.

    The guards allege Peak menaced them with a sharp object, authorities said. Peak, a popular Malibu surfer who is the youngest person ever to serve on the City Council, denied the allegations and said that guards chased and pushed him after he tripped on a chair.

    Peak said he had previously been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and has been addressing his illness.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Theses people.

    Now, now.

    Idiocy isn’t the province of the ‘select few’ rich and famous alone; the many multitudes of poor and stupid are equal opportunity dummies as well.

    California list of sanctuary cities:

    Alameda Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Amador Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Bell Gardens, CA
    Berkeley, CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report which points to Berkeley’s General Order J-1)
    Butte Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Calaveras Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    City of Industry, CA
    City of Commerce, CA
    Coachella, CA (Added 7-23-12, Source: La Voz de Aztlan. Passed in 2006 and existence supported by quotes in city’s 9-12-07 council meeting minutes.)
    Colusa Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report) (1-18-17 Supervisor disputes listing. OJJPAC has requested Co. forward its policy for review.)
    Contra Costa Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Cypress, CA
    Davis CA
    Downey, CA
    El Dorado, CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Fremont, CA (Added 3-22-17, Source: Fremont adopts sanctuary city status, East Bay Times, 3-15-17
    Fresno, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service. City disputes its listing claiming CRS could not provide source of its research. )
    Fresno Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Glenn Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Greenfield, CA (Added 7-23-12, Source: Battle at the ballot box in Greenfield, Monterey County, The Herald, 6-1-12)
    Healdsburg, CA (Added 3-4-17, Source: 2-21-17 Healdsburg City Council affirms support for immigrants ‘regardless of their status,’ The Press Democrat)
    Humboldt Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Imperial Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Kern Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Kings Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Lake Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    La Puente, CA Added 4-5-17, Source: La Puente declares city a ‘sanctuary’ for immigrants, religious minorities, LGBTQ people, The San Gabriel Valley Tribune, 1-11-17.
    Lassen Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Los Angeles, CA (Sources: Congressional Research Service; 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Los Angeles Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Long Beach, CA
    Lynwood, CA
    Malibu, CA (Added 3-18-17, Source: City Council Votes To Declare Malibu A Sanctuary City, ABC TV 7, 3-14-17)
    Marin Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Madera Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Maywood, CA
    Mendocino Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Merced Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Modoc Co. CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Montebello, CA
    Monterey Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Napa Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    National City, CA
    Nevada Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Norwalk, CA
    Oakland, CA (Added 8-27-07. Source: 4/25/07 story by KCBS 740 AM. Link here.)
    Orange Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Palm Springs, CA (Added 1-31-17, Source: Palm Springs has been an unofficial sanctuary city for years, By Gustavo Solis, The Desert Sun, 1-19-17)
    Paramount, CA
    Petaluma, CA (Added 3-4-17, Source: 2-27-17 Petaluma City Council unanimously adopts ‘It Won’t Happen Here’ resolution, The Argus-Courier)
    Pico Rivera, CA
    Placer Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Richmond, CA (Added 11-5-09. Sources: Mayor Gayle McLaughlin’s campaign website from 2004, 2006)
    Riverside Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Sacramento Co. (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Benito Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Bernardino, CA (Added 6/7/07, reader submitted / 9/5/08 Listing disputed by the city administration* See addl. notes)
    San Bernardino Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Carlos, CA (Added 3-18-17, Source: San Carlos Adopts Sanctury City Status In Defiance Of Trump Administration, The Daily Caller, 3-14-17)
    San Diego, CA (Sources: Congressional Research Service; SDPD chief endorses controversial immigration bill, Fox-TV 5, 9-2-13
    San Diego Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Joaquin Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Luis Obispo Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report) 2-23-17 disputed by City. Under review.
    San Mateo Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Santa Ana, CA (Added 1-31-17, Source: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Santa-Ana-sanctuary-city-immigration-Orange-County-411044565.html
    Santa Barbara Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Santa Clara County, CA (Added 11-29-10, source: Forced into Immigration Enforcement, A County Considers Plan B, 10-21-10, Huffington Post.; 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Santa Cruz, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
    Santa Cruz Co., CA (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report; 12-17-16 letter from Jim Hart, Sheriff-Coroner, Co. of Santa Cruz )
    San Francisco, CA (Congressional Research Service)
    San Francisco Co. (Added 10-13-15, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    San Jose, CA (6/13/07 Congressional Research Service)
    Santa Maria, CA (11-18-08 Submitted research from local activist/ Listing disputed by the city administration)
    Santa Rosa, CA (Added 2-16-17, Source: Resolution No. RES-2017-017 passed by the City of Santa Rosa on 2-7-17)
    Seaside, CA Added 4-5-17, Source: Seaside declares itself a ‘sanctuary city,’ at risk of losing federal grants, by James Herrera, Monterey Herald, 3-30-17.
    Sacramento Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Shasta Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Solano Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Soledad, CA Added 3-27-17, Source: Soledad becomes sanctuary city, Monterey Herald, 3-23-17.
    Sonoma, CA (Added 3-4-17, Source: 2-22-17 Sonoma agrees to take a stand in support of immigrants [illegal aliens], The Press Democrat)
    Sonoma Co., CA (Source: Congressional Research Service; 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    South Gate, CA
    Stanislaus Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Sutter Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Tehama Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Trinity Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Tulare Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Ventura, Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Vernon, CA
    Watsonville, CA (Added 5/30/07, documented by KSBW news)
    Windsor, CA (Added 3-7-17, Police Chief to Illegal Aliens: ‘Your Immigration Status Is Completely Irrelevant’, CNS News, 3-6-17)
    Wilmington, CA
    Yolo Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)
    Yuba Co., CA (Added 7-30-16, Source: 10-8-14 DHS DDO Report)

    source- http://www.ojjpac.org/sanctuary.asp

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  5. Greetings:

    When I first got deported to Alta California, I lived in the city of Alameda. I used to refer to it as a small island off the coast of Oakland. The body of water between them was officially know as “The Estuary” but everybody who lived there referred to it as “The Moat”.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  6. Happyfeet,

    Thanks for the tip. Skylar Peak is a has some issues.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  7. for the love of california jesus do you have any idea how sickeningly high rent is in Los Angeles

    these malibu trash losers are brutally raping the lower and middle classes by putting out a welcome/bienvenidos mat to a city what already doesn’t have enough housing

    this is why the filthy city is crawling with bedbugs and tuberculosis

    also i think their douchebag malibu mayor smokes weed

    i really do

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. The sign is classic. No doubt liberals have no sense of humor.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  9. 16 feet above sea level. That’s why AGW has traction with those people. (Chicago is 594 feet above sea level, happyfeet.)

    nk (dbc370)

  10. The last time masses of Democrats seceded from the Union to maintain power over their cheap forced labor we considered it a civil war. I see no reason why it should not be considered so today and the feds should send in marshals to enforce federal law. Sedition is still sedition.

    Democrats have a history of exploitation of minorities for labor. This time they are exploiting immigrants both legal and illegal but their main objective is to recruit new Democrat voters. If we continue to permit immigration and close our eyes to “sanctuary cities” we will end up a permanent minority to the Democrats and we won’t be able to elect a dog catcher.

    The Democrats are stuffing the ballot boxes not with ballots but with millions of new Democrats. Plus they are setting up an underclass to replace the union thugs who are being eliminated by automation. The Democrats always play the long game. They have deteriorated into a plague on the Republic.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  11. i feel like i never get enough oxygen here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. lol failmerica’s secret service sluts

    you think you know trash and then bam these secret service losers turn around and raise the bar

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. “Off duty”

    mg (31009b)

  14. Pretty sure that those estates have servant’s quarters, around by the garage and the recycling bins.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. Declare these places to be in active insurrection against the federal government and seize their bank accounts and pension plans. This will get their minds right.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  16. First, fake news. Now, fake signs. I don’t know if we are going to be able to handle so much truth.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  17. Maybe congress should pass some laws that actually penalize people or companies that hire illegals?

    Doesn’t seem to be a priority. I wonder why.

    Davethulhu (c75fb7)

  18. You can be very sure the Malibu will not be a sanctuary for midnight sign posters. I hope the culprit has covered his/her tracks, and if caught, keeps mouth shut. Don’t compound the misdemeanor with some two-bit felony like being untruthful with the authorities. And have some cash buried somewhere so you can feed and house yourself after the police seize your bank accounts, vehicles, and the county seizes your property when the taxes aren’t paid. This is America, after all.

    BobStewartatHome (448c1e)

  19. ‘Cheap Nannies and Gardeners Make Malibu Great!’ (Boyle Heights Not So Much).”

    Sounds like a classic win-win situation. A real one.

    What, pray tell, is the argument against it?

    And if there is one, is that same argument used by the same people in arguing for some different things that might logically follow, or is that argument merely an after the fact rationalization?

    Sammy Finkelman (ca4c0f)

  20. Maybe congress should pass some laws that actually penalize people or companies that hire illegals?

    Doesn’t seem to be a priority. I wonder why.

    Davethulhu

    A clear reform would be threefold:

    A: End birthright citizenship, which was a great reform for slaves but is obsolete. Citizenship should be based on a parent being a citizen or going through an immigration process.

    B: If you’re not a citizen, you don’t work without a special (and expensive) waiver for truly unusual situations where we really did need to import a specialist. Violating this law is treated like tax evasion.

    C: Absolutely no welfare, food stamps, grants, subsidized loans, medicaid, or anything else, if you do not possess a national ID card, which are issued early (childhood). Your state gets a block on the card to add licenses like driver or conceal carry, and also restrictions (need to wear glasses to drive, etc), but it’s a consistent card in all 50 states and possessing a fictitious one is a mandatory 72 hour jail sentence. I think this part is pretty important. IDs are free and are tied to a fingerprint. Everyone booked into a jail for any reason is fingerprinted, and if they do not have such an ID card, they are issued one tied to that fingerprint. If they lose the card, you can still easily identify them. Sounds draconian but I don’t see how this harms anybody.

    The Meteors (ba94b2)

  21. Once again, none of your “reforms” target employers. You’re treating the symptom, not the cause.

    Davethulhu (c75fb7)

  22. Have you seen the people at Trump rallies? Maybe five of them could do the work of one Mexican if they could be persuaded to put down the beer, the Cheetos and the donut, and bother to show up two days in a row. Reality. Employers need to get the work done. Or you go to the grocery store and the shelves are empty.

    nk (dbc370)

  23. No one works less than our black political hacks, nk.
    Waters, Cummings etc,etc.

    mg (31009b)

  24. Watch what they do and not what they say.

    “Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) failed to acknowledge Equal Pay Day for the first time in her Senate career after it was reported on Tuesday that women working in her Senate office earned just 71 percent of what was earned by men.”

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-goes-silent-on-equal-pay-day-after-free-beacon-report/

    harkin (f65e7e)

  25. 22.Have you seen the people at anti-Trump rallies? Maybe five of them work.

    FYP

    harkin (f65e7e)

  26. Actually they all work, harkin. The anti Trump rally IS their work.

    21.Once again, none of your “reforms” target employers. You’re treating the symptom, not the cause.
    Davethulhu (c75fb7) — 4/6/2017 @ 12:00 am

    So instead of whining like a leftist simply add D: Employers who employ persons without national ID will be fined 100k per occurrence. Hit them where it hurts.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I4nksOojOs0/WOMISNenE4I/AAAAAAABIF4/230VxcO_b0Ut3HmNlfhRutkP2Xv2WWVwACLcB/s640/1ninetymiles1YZ5U1rhnukoo1_500.jpg

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  27. Well some honesty is at least refreshing.

    Blah Blah (44eaa0)

  28. @10-

    The big one: What if minority voters just won’t turn out for non-minority candidates any more? That’s a real problem for the Democrats, especially if all the racial politics they pursue in order to try to motivate minority voters (Black Lives Matter, immigration protests, etc.) actually serve to make minorities less likely to vote for whites, even if they’re Democrats. And if working-class whites start to vote Republican the way minorities have voted Democratic — and all that racial politics is likely to encourage that — the Dems are in trouble.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/249082/

    Not really even a matter of “if”, it’s the natural trend of identity politics

    Regarding cultural assimilation, advocates of open immigration policies often argue that there is no problem. During the last great wave of immigration, from roughly 1880 to 1920, Americans feared the newcomers would not blend in, but for the most part they ended up assimilating. Therefore, as this reasoning goes, all immigrants will assimilate.

    Unfortunately, however, circumstances that helped Great Wave immigrants assimilate are not present today. First, World War I and then legislation in the early 1920s dramatically reduced new arrivals. By 1970 less than 5 percent of the U.S. population was foreign-born, down from 14.7 percent in 1910. This reduction helped immigrant communities assimilate, as they were no longer continually refreshed by new arrivals from the old country. But in recent decades, the dramatic growth of immigrant enclaves has likely slowed the pace of assimilation. Second, many of today’s immigrants, like those of the past, have modest education levels, but unlike in the past, the modern U.S. economy has fewer good jobs for unskilled workers. Partly for this reason, immigrants do not improve their economic situation over time as much as they did in the past.

    Third, technology allows immigrants to preserve ties with the homeland in ways that were not possible a century ago. Calling, texting, emailing, FaceTiming, and traveling home are all relatively cheap and easy. Fourth, the United States’ attitude toward newcomers has also changed. In the past, there was more of a consensus about the desirability of assimilation.

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2017-03-31/case-against-immigration?cid=int-now&pgtype=hpg&region=br2

    This is why the alt-right believe their rise is inevitable. Sooner or later everyone will be forced to play the identity politics game. The alternative will be to become marginalized, and in the case of whites, to lose the culture, the country, and liberty. If you don’t value it, if you dont fight for it, you will lose it.

    Build the wall.

    Leon (168f33)

  29. A blast from the past: pre-election news.

    Government data show that since 2000 all of the net gain in the number of working-age (16 to 65) people holding a job has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal). This is remarkable given that native-born Americans accounted for two-thirds of the growth in the total working-age population. Though there has been some recovery from the Great Recession, there were still fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level. […]

    Congressional Budget Office projections indicate that if the Schumer-Rubio bill (S.744) becomes law, the number of new legal immigrants allowed into the country will roughly double to 20 million over the next decade, adding to the 40 million immigrants (legal and illegal) already here.1 This increase is in addition to the legalization of illegal immigrants already in the country. The primary argument for this dramatic increase is, as Republican congressman Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) has argued, that without it the country faces “labor shortages”. The National Restaurant Association, National Association of Home Builders, National Association of Manufacturers, Business Roundtable, U.S. Chamber Commence, and numerous other companies and business associations have all argued that immigration should be increased because there are not enough workers in the country — both skilled and unskilled.

    [Emphasis mine]
    http://cis.org/all-employment-growth-since-2000-went-to-immigrants

    This is why Trump was elected, the establishment is hated, and why the establishment will do everything they can to scuttle Trumps agenda. They like the workforce living in slums and needy.

    Leon (168f33)

  30. So let’s see, this sign represents protest that is:
    1. Clever
    2. Pointed
    3. Artfully-crafted
    4. Non-destructive

    Isn’t this a whole lot better than knitting ladyparts hats and marching, or putting on black masks and breaking store windows?

    JVW (5de783)

  31. This is why the alt-right believe their rise is inevitable. Sooner or later everyone will be forced to play the identity politics game. The alternative will be to become marginalized, and in the case of whites, to lose the culture, the country, and liberty. If you don’t value it, if you dont fight for it, you will lose it.

    Tell me more about white genocide

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  32. @Davethullu and Rev. Hoagie:none of your “reforms” target employers. You’re treating the symptom, not the cause.

    It is not illegal to employ illegals. It is illegal to ask for any documentation until after hiring, and it is illegal to refuse the documentation offered and demand other documentation. Employers who comply with these rules are not breaking the law even if every single person they hire turns out to be illegal, and the law forbids them to make any effort to discover that.

    It is only illegal to knowingly and deliberately hire illegals but there is no need to do that. Follow the law as written and you will be employing them if they apply.

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  33. That’s exactly my point. The current law is extremely tolerant of employers.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  34. R.I.P. Don Rickles

    Icy (0be6a1)

  35. I’m speaking to culture Dave, not genocide.

    Perhaps you are a fan of multi-culturalism; I see it as the death of national harmony and eventually of western civilization.

    Leon (168f33)

  36. I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?

    That Mayor sounds like a real reactionary.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (e04f50)

  37. Mutli Racial America is fine but not a goal.

    Multi Cultural is genocidal and as a goal to be avoided.

    Mutl-Cultural = Hutus v Tutsi

    Blah Blah (44eaa0)

  38. @DavethulluThe current law is extremely tolerant of employers.

    It is more accurate to say that current law forces employers to hire illegals; to demand that employers should be punished for doing so is a bit much.

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  39. “Mutli Racial America is fine but not a goal”

    Are you sure?

    The number of white Christians in America has dwindled to 46 percent of the total population from 55 percent in 2007, according to a Pew Research Center survey released Monday by National Journal’s Next America project.
    The survey also found that while the percentage of white Christians fell, they still account for nearly seven in 10 Americans who identify as Republicans.

    http://time.com/4124979/white-christian-pew-survey/

    Leon (168f33)

  40. Frederick (64d4e1) — 4/6/2017 @ 11:19 am

    It is illegal to ask for any documentation until after hiring, and it is illegal to refuse the documentation offered and demand other documentation.

    I think it’s illegal to demand any more documentation from one person than from another, especially on the basis of national origin. But you could ask all persons for multiple pieces of identification.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  41. 20. The Meteors (ba94b2) — 4/5/2017 @ 10:22 pm I don’t see how this harms anybody. You mean anyone you don’t want to harm, but it does that too.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  42. I think it’s illegal to demand any more documentation from one person than from another, especially on the basis of national origin. But you could ask all persons for multiple pieces of identification.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42) — 4/6/2017 @ 2:11 pm

    While it’s not necessarily mandated, nothing is preventing any employer from using e-verify.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  43. 37.Mutli Racial America is fine but not a goal.

    Multi Cultural is genocidal and as a goal to be avoided.

    In todays world what exactly is the difference between multi racial and multi cultural? When I was a kid everybody wanted to be a cowboy and everybody knew they could be president red, yellow, black or white. Now it’s “Don’t Make The Black Kids Angry” and Black Lies Matter, and “diversity”. All bull$h!t.

    My first wife was Jewish and my current wife is Korean yet I had a guy call me a racist just last week because I pointed out the Founding Fathers were white. And mostly Christian. The guy freaked out at the bar at my Club and started shrieking white people “like” me are what’s wrong with America. Then when I pointed out white people “like me” founded the country he went apoplectic. I thought he would crap himself.

    The left will either beat the white out of us or breed the white out of us. Either way the white’s gonna be out of us.

    I find it sad that the most free country in history, the richest, most powerful yet the most generous and most merciful to those it’s defeated in war is considered by the left to be the most horrible thing ever created. Mostly because white Christian.

    They complain about capitalism but show me any nation ever including today where the poor drive cars, have air conditioning and heat, refrigeration cell phones and are FAT. Any where any time in history. It didn’t come from socialism.

    Multi cultural? Why? Because all those other cultures are so successful? That’s why they’re dying to get here, right?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  44. 43-The reason America became great is because it was founded by Anglo-Saxon Christians informed by Anglo-Saxon Christian ideas and traditions. The more America moves away from those ideas, values, traditions, and yes, demographics, the worse shape the country becomes.

    The evidence is everywhere, from the collapse of the traditional family, to college students covered in tribal tattoos graduating dumber than before they started college. Three quarters of the population is on happy pills, and abortion is as common as childbirth. Half the people are on government benefits, and we are actually stressing over whether to let men use the ladies room. We have run up a debt that can never be paid off, while while our leaders spend their days trying to convince us more taxes can “fix” the weather. Common sense and personal responsibility are abandoned, while perversion and escapism are glorified.

    I believe the world will miss us once white Christians are gone, I guess that makes me a racist. Oh well, at least they’ll still have Allah.

    Leon (168f33)

  45. All this decadent stuff you described comes from White Anglo-Saxon “Christians”. The perversions and the escapism, and there are a lot more White Anglo-Saxon Protestants on government benefits than any other group. Not Mexicans, Muslims, Asians, Jews, or Southern Europeans.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. You’ve got Malibu right there, Leon. Who is more perverted and decadent? The Hollywood crowd and surfers dudes who live there or their nannies and housekeepers?

    nk (dbc370)

  47. @5– Yes. In some circles it was referred to as “The Isle of Style”. Lived my 1st 50+ years there.

    Gramps (082e76)

  48. I still enjoy going to the “All-Italian Car and Motorcycle Show” every October in Alameda.

    Colonel Haiku (49aad2)

  49. nk, you put Christians in scare quotes, and you were right to do so. Therein lies the problem.

    Leon (168f33)

  50. and there are a lot more White Anglo-Saxon Protestants on government benefits than any other group. Not Mexicans, Muslims, Asians, Jews, or Southern Europeans.

    Where do you get your numbers from? Just so you understand there are many more WASP’s than there are all those other groups in America. Try as a percentage of each group and see how those numbers shake out.

    Your differentiation for Southern Europeans is cute. Is there some momentous difference between them and all the rest? And what are Americans, Canadians, Australians, Southern, Northern, Eastern or Western Europeans?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  51. Consider the source, Hoagie. The guy beclowns himself daily.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. how is that nice to say Mr. Colonel

    it’s very true that the number one welfare pig in america is the child-having homeowner

    rick santorum did a whole campaign about how he want to slop these piggies til they puked on jesus’s sunday-best sandals

    he lost.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  53. but he did have that cool dead baby in a box thing going for him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  54. For what it’s worth…

    “Ethnic minorities do, however, have higher rates of participation in the welfare system than does the majority White population, given their lesser total numbers. Thus, the popular perception has some basis in fact, if interpreted to mean that minorities have higher propensities to make use of the welfare system.”

    https://www.nap.edu/read/9719/chapter/8

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  55. Yes, Hoagie, you’re right. The reason that the Republican majority did not join the Freedom Caucus for full repeal of Obamacare was pressure from their black and brown constituencies. It was the same reason they did not defund Planned Parenthood. And the same reason why they will not reform welfare and Medicare and Social Security.

    nk (dbc370)

  56. They will replace the sign soon…

    le lenny face (e00f66)

  57. I have no problem with the fact that some minorities have a propensity to use more of the welfare services than others do. I do however, resent be called racist if I point that out and make issue that it should be addressed to help these folks become more productive citizens. I do not believe people have to be on welfare for years, decades and generations. They need a hand up not a hand out at that point. It has become a critical and may I say detrimental lifestyle choice.

    Historically and by practicality there is no good reason in my view why the Republican Party is not the “go to” party for “brown” constituencies. It is our party which respects minorities, refuses to exploit them for voting fodder and has historically fought the Democrats for both the Freedom of minorities but also the social and economic upward mobility of such. The fact that the vast numbers of minorities go left, Democrat and socialist is a tribute to public funding of “walk around money” by low level Dem operatives, The Great Society, and sixty years of institutionalized victimhood propagandized by our tax payer funded public school syndicate.

    It really pisses me off that we are constantly justifying that we are not racists because we actually DO believe people should be judged by their character and not color and that we are constantly out maneuvered by the Dems with regard to minority voting. . The Dems have successfully made the Party of Lincoln the enemy of the very Americans my forefathers fought and killed to free. Pisses me off!

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  58. Charges .Murray noted in his last book, how the trends lines he saw first in losing gr[and had spread to white communities in falling apart, the fishtown example. This is a pattern that recurs in western Europe,

    narciso (d1f714)

  59. @Davethullu:While it’s not necessarily mandated, nothing is preventing any employer from using e-verify.

    It is illegal to use E-Verify to screen applicants. They must be hired before you can use E-Verify. If E-Verify cannot confirm them, then it is legal to continue to employ them. E-Verify is not a solution and does literally nothing.

    Frederick (64d4e1)


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