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2/16/2017

Fashion Designers Unintentionally Speak Volumes

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:06 am

[guest post by Dana]

High-brow “woke fashion” is a thing now:

T-shirts, buttons and baseball caps symbolize fashion’s political awakening. So does velvet, billowing satin and bedazzled bodices.

Fashion’s message of power unfolds as poetry. Pure outrage has given way to resistance.

It’s a lot of silly stretching for relevancy, but the designers interviewed certainly see themselves as relevant.

Here is what I found particularly amusing. In the article, the focus is on the Women’s March in Washington D.C. and its influence on fashion designers, who are now working to evidence the ongoing “resistance” in their creations. Here are a couple of interesting photos that caught my eye. Not for what they overtly said, but for what they unintentionally said:

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So true. Yet, how hypocritically rich this is coming from women who believe it is their fundamental right to deny unborn girls their own fundamental right to live.

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Do you remember when a Republican candidate running for the presidency made this comment and was subsequently excoriated for it?

As I travel the country here in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, everyone knows what New York values are.

We knew, Ted, and so did New Yorkers, as we can now clearly see.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back)

–Dana

97 Responses to “Fashion Designers Unintentionally Speak Volumes”

  1. Now for something completely different, eh?

    I am taking the NY values/hat as seriously as the designer…

    Dana (023079)

  2. What on earth happened to that poor women in the red hat? Is this a fashion show or ‘faces of meth’? I feel bad saying it, but I also think they must have intended for her to look like that so it’s fair game.

    Great post for those who understood what ‘new york values’ meant.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  3. it’s really bold how they’re using girl models to model girl clothes

    i hope this catches on

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Lacks a certain degree of self-awareness to make a T-shirt that says “Girl’s just want to have fundamental rights” and then slap it onto a girl whom you literally starve in service to the demands of an unfeeling market.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  5. Well there is that, Leviticus.

    And I know you’re making a joke but all this talk of women’s rights can really get irritating when you think about what women have to live with in most of the world.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  6. Leviticus,

    What’s worse, the demand that women starve themselves in order to be able to walk the runway, or women freely submitting themselves to that demand and starving themselves accordingly?

    Dana (023079)

  7. Beyond absurdity, get them a sandwich:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/02/melania-trump-karl-lagerfeld-suit-white-house-appearance

    This is what political correctness looks like fashion reprtinfg

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. Greetings:

    These people, the ilk of whom you speak, are hardly “of” New York though, regrettably “in” it. If they had birth certificates, perhaps one each for their multiple citizenships, I think that you would find them to be crass infil-traitors in pursuit of little other than the once almighty dollar.

    I grew up in the Bronx of the ’50s and ’60s and Manhattan south of 110th Street is not the epicenter of New York values. It’s the Bronx, the only bit of New York that’s geographically contiguous with mainland USofA and I think we all have an idea of the effects and affects of off-shore islanders. (Hint: google “island fever”).

    As to your initial photo, my New York values would could be encapsulated in, “Sweetheart, come back when you’ve grown a pair.”

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  9. At least Gun Hill Road is still Gun Hill Road. And yes, we are all living in the effects of one off-shore islander in particular.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  10. “What’s worse, the demand that women starve themselves in order to be able to walk the runway, or women freely submitting themselves to that demand and starving themselves accordingly?”

    – Dana

    Hard to say, although I lean toward “the demand that women starve themselves in order to be able to walk the runway.” I’d imagine that plenty of models come from circumstances that make mere starvation seem relatively appealing.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  11. if you find a model what can cook

    that’s a goddamn keeper right there

    good luck with that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. If she could cook, she wouldn’t be that thin. She’d be the healthy weight of a curvy woman, and wouldn’t be a model.

    So yeah, good luck with that.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  13. it’s like a zen koan almost

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. I’m referring to the girlfriend in the video, lest the link text makes me sound sadistic.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  15. speaking of apres runway eats I just learned about this today

    it’s a midwestern thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. Thats why the likes of Walker dont get to sniff the White House – they eat too much of it and they bend over backwards for the firms that need cheap labor to bring it to your plate.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  17. she is cooking meth.

    mg (31009b)

  18. Greetings, urbanleftbehind: ( @ #9 (5eecdb) — 2/16/2017 @ 8:45 am )

    Was Roosevelt High on Gun Hill ??? We used to play basketball at its night center in the early ’60s.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  19. Close, Roosevelt is on Fordham Rd, about 1 mile south of Gun Hill. That must have been a hoot, seeing as it was baddest of the bad not too soon afterward (this was likely the Bronx Tale HS where Colodro went).

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  20. Greetings, urbanleftbehind: ( @ #20 (5eecdb) – 2/16/2017 @ 9:45 am )

    Aahhh, yes, Fordham Road and Friday nights around the Grand Concourse, the RKO Fordham, Loew’s Paradise, Jahn’s Alexander’s etc. and chasing all those silly little Jewish girls around Poe Park.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  21. Take a $2 t-shirt, slap a social justice warrior message on it, resell it to urban sophisticates (and wannabe urban sophisticates) for $40.

    Know what I call that? Retail genius. Wish I had thought of it.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  22. Obesity is unhealthy and it shouldn’t be promoted.

    I admire those who can keep weight off. I admire these young women.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  23. #22 JVW

    Speaking of slogans, I hear that somebody slapped “Make America Great Again” on some trucker hats.
    I hear that guy’s doing pretty well among people who didn’t want Hillary Clinton to nominate the next Justice to the Supreme Court! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  24. I see that the fashion industry also demonstrated their tolerance when a bunch of editors, including those from Elle, refused to sit next to Tiffany Trump at New York Fashion Week. Whoopi Goldberg asked her to sit next to her. When Whoopi Goldberg is more tolerant than you are, you should examine your values and behavior.

    Rochf (877dba)

  25. hi my name’s happyfeet is this seat taken

    no happyfeet please sit down my name’s tiffany

    holy moly all this fashion sure is exciting tiffany I like how the models spin around so you get to see the clothes from all these different angles

    yes yes happy plus you get to see all the different colors and styles!

    i love the colors and styles! Are we allowed to take pictures?

    Hrm I’m not sure but that’s a very good question

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. Cruz’s NY values comment was still inexcusably stupid. He left himself wide open for references to 9/11.

    His real face palm moment though was his horrific speech after his Iowa victory. He had the entire nation waiting to hear his vision for the United States and instead he droned on and on thanking people and never offering any substance on where he stood on any issue. He went on so long saying nothing that the networks finally cut away to cover Hillary.

    I really thought that after Scott Walker Cruz was clearly the best candidate but that moment IMO showed me that in some respects (how to win an election) he was clueless.

    Harkin (97e6be)

  27. They, whoever “they” is, shouldnt be pissing off the female daughters or Eric, I’ve always seen them as the weak links susceptible to overdoing noblesse oblige. DJT Jr. is the hardcore.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  28. The extreme left might have some attire issues, even drug problems. But at least not many of them are planning mass murder like this thug was: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-south-carolina-man-bought-gun-for-attack-in-the-spirit-of-dylann-roof/

    I don’t think these character assassination attempts on the left or right get us anywhere Dana. It’s just hate-filled, and that’s all. Less heat, more light please. There’s already more than enough heat.

    Tillman (a95660)

  29. Cruz’s NY values comment was still inexcusably stupid

    Only for those who wanted to take offense. Cruz’s problem was that he thought that he was speaking to adults. Trump knew better and never tried to speak to adults.

    Very similar to Brutus’s eulogy to Caesar and how Marc Antony slam-dunked it.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  30. Know what I call that? Retail genius. Wish I had thought of it.

    What’s stopping you? It’s not like the market is saturated.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  31. [Cruz’s] real face palm moment though was his horrific speech after his Iowa victory. He had the entire nation waiting to hear his vision for the United States and instead he droned on and on thanking people and never offering any substance on where he stood on any issue. He went on so long saying nothing that the networks finally cut away to cover Hillary.

    I agree, I was so relieved when Cruz won Iowa – thinking maybe our party was saved from the orange baboon – and then Ted laid that steaming pile of fail on national TV. It was like winning the lottery and then losing the ticket on the way to cash it in.

    Agonizing as it was, I’m not sure it really mattered – Cruz was never going to do well in NH, and it was Rubio (with help from Christie) who blew any chance to stop Trump there.

    Did it matter in SC and the southern states where Ted really lost the nomination after NH? Unclear. I tend to think most people who supported Trump did so for visceral/emotional reasons (i.e. they hated the people/groups that Trump demagogued and wanted to believe his obviously false promises) and thus were not very susceptible to having their minds changed by somebody else’s policy speech. The fact that Trump was able to make gaffe after gaffe, and look like a fool most of the time, without losing any measurable amount of support, kind of reinforces that impression.

    I really thought that after Scott Walker Cruz was clearly the best candidate but that moment IMO showed me that in some respects (how to win an election) he was clueless.

    Yeah, my preference was Walker then Cruz too. Cruz actually ran a pretty well organized and smart campaign. The only major mistakes I can recall are the NY values thing, and the Iowa victory speech.

    Dave (711345)

  32. ugh these harvardtrash dorkwads are so trashy and so unbelievably condescending

    The United States should delay extracting oil and natural gas from the ground until supplies in the Middle East run low, forcing countries who were previously our suppliers to pay a premium for American energy products, according to Berkshire Hathaway’s Vice Chairman, Charlie Munger.

    “I wish we weren’t producing all this natural gas, I’d be delighted to just have it lie there untapped for decades in the future and have the Arabs pay extra once they use up their oil,” he said on CNBC this week. “Nobody else in America seems to feel my way, but I believe in deferred gratification, I don’t think hastening to use our oil and gas is a good idea; I don’t see any advantage.”

    what an ungodly stupid patronizing and disingenuous thing to say

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. what does it tell Meghan’s cowardly dickhead daddy that nobody follows where he leads

    The Senate confirmed Rep. Mick Mulvaney as the new director of the Office of Management and Budget on Thursday morning, allowing the budget process to move forward.

    The South Carolina Republican was confirmed by a 51-49 vote, with Senate Armed Services Chairman John McCain the only Republican defector. The Arizona senator announced on Wednesday that he could not support Mulvaney’s nomination because of the congressman’s work to cut defense spending.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. Mitch is still slow-walking the nominations though

    he got his greasy pig wife confirmed fast enough though didn’t he

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. Meghan’s been done right by the beauty team at FNC. And they’ve done a bang up job with Marie “Barf” Harf.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  36. Meghan’s at the point where every profile of her forever after will include the word brassy

    that’s the accepted code word for loud fat girls

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  37. “Only for those who wanted to take offense. Cruz’s problem was that he thought that he was speaking to adults. Trump knew better and never tried to speak to adults.”

    Not really. Cruz left himself wide open for a 9/11 comeback because he wasn’t specific. He should have referenced over regulation and businesses leaving in droves.

    Harkin (74f607)

  38. yes yes the big gulp thing resonates

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. I don’t think these character assassination attempts on the left or right get us anywhere Dana. It’s just hate-filled, and that’s all. Less heat, more light please. There’s already more than enough heat.

    Tillman (a95660) — 2/16/2017 @ 12:19 pm

    I don’t believe I was attempting to assassinate anyone’s character, Tillman. Whose character is being assassinated?

    Dana (023079)

  40. But at least not many of them are planning mass murder like this thug was

    Not many leftists are planning mass murder, either. But some of them did. What’s your point?

    Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71)

  41. Time to get out the 3′ x 4′ mohamhead bomb in turban poster.

    mg (31009b)

  42. what does it tell Meghan’s cowardly dickhead daddy that nobody follows where he leads

    This may come as a shock to you, but not everyone decides what is right based on how popular or unpopular it is.

    Dave (711345)

  43. what does it tell Meghan’s cowardly dickhead daddy that nobody follows where he leads

    Also: you are a real internet tough guy, calling an air force pilot who endured years of torture without betraying his fellow prisoners or his country “cowardly”.

    Of course you are entitled to disagree with his political positions, but calling him a coward for opposing a guy who tried to short-change the military is pretty rich.

    Dave (711345)

  44. Alternate energy science has been missing the boat–if they could figure out a way to harness the energy expended by people rolling their eyes at the antics of these idiots, we’d never need another source of power again.

    M Scott Eiland (2d577b)

  45. Dana, New York liberals, and you know it. Never pass up a chance to demonize your opponent! I think we’ve had enough of that. That’s how we got here, in la-la land. I want to push for a certain level of mutual respect and this is not helpful. We can get a lot more done in this country if we try to understand various points of view without getting sanctimonious and nasty about it. (I like DRJ’s approach.)

    41. The point is to show that fashion statements are a trivial concern in light of the likes of at least one extremist being caught planning a massacre. At the same time, it’s also to show that it’s easy to demonize either extremist side. What do you think the point of the post is, Chuck?

    Tillman (a95660)

  46. yes yes yes hangin tuff like a new kid!

    not afraid of a private sector job like meghan’s coward daddy

    the thought of not dying in office? scares me not a whit!

    the NYT Editorial Board’s opinion? Makes Meghan’s coward daddy wanna curl up in a fetal position with his binky

    but not me!

    i got the eye of the tiger dancing through the fire that’s what I got

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. Harward declined the wonderful opportunity to replace Flynn. I can’t imagine why.

    Rick Ballard (5e8a41)

  48. lol Harward’s dirty all up in it

    love it

    Mr. Mattis is the exception what proves the rule about these career military weirdos

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  49. I believe that it was Charlie Russel who said,” A woman can get further on a tube of lipstick than a man can with a Winchester and a side of bacon.”

    And I think he said something along the lines of most women these days don’t wear enough clothes to pad a crutch.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  50. that’s very empowering it should be on the meth-chick’s t-shirt

    the part about the lipstick

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. Mattis is Cassius without the lean and hungry look.

    urbanleftbehind (6b10f2)

  52. @ Tillman,

    Let me ask you this: Why do you think the fashion designers added “New York” to the Trump-inspired hat? Why do you think they didn’t put Oklahoma, or Texas, or Idaho on it instead?

    Dana (023079)

  53. @ Tillman,

    Dana, New York liberals, and you know it. Never pass up a chance to demonize your opponent! I think we’ve had enough of that. That’s how we got here, in la-la land. I want to push for a certain level of mutual respect and this is not helpful. We can get a lot more done in this country if we try to understand various points of view without getting sanctimonious and nasty about it.

    I don’t need to demonize my opponents, Tillman. They do that themselves.

    I don’t know to what you are referring when you say: “That’s how we got here, in la-la land.”

    Respect is earned. I don’t feel sanctimonious nor nasty. Not in the least. I do not like an insular group of individuals who have the brazen audacity to take the position of fighting for fundamental rights for girls, and yet simultaneously demand the right to deny the fundamental right to live for unborn girls. I do not like it when a smug, insular group of people take what is a symbol of hope to a large swath of Americans (whether we agree or not) and for which they have been mocked, and co-opt it as a symbol for the very people who mocked and looked down upon that large swath of people.

    And frankly, your accusation that I am being “sanctimonious” and “nasty” about this is nothing less than you demonizing me.

    Go figure.

    Dana (023079)

  54. @44 Dave

    McCain was Navy. If you can’t remember try associating him with Ernest Borgnine.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  55. Harward Derelict is so hot this year.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  56. fashion week maybe needs to be dialed back to a M-W thing

    when a complete spaz like Kanye West is for whatever insensible reason involved in the festivities

    maybe it’s time to start curating the experience more better

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  57. I like the “Goodell Loves Isis” T shirt.
    N.E. values

    mg (31009b)

  58. McCain has no class he’s just a filthy hanger-on facilitated by failmerica’s abjectly evil propaganda slut media

    he makes pretendsies he’s some kind of national security expert but all he’s expert in is getting our troops slaughtered for a handful of mostly notional warm poop

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  59. There’s never a herd of pigs running off a cliff when you need them.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  60. Fashion Weak.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  61. McCain was Navy.

    Yeah, of course I knew that but typed the wrong thing. I stand corrected.

    Dave (711345)

  62. Didn’t McCain’s wife make her money killing Americans with carbohydrates?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  63. Harward declined the wonderful opportunity to replace Flynn. I can’t imagine why.

    The reason quoted was “the obvious dysfunction”.

    Who will be President Bannon’s second choice?

    Dave (711345)

  64. I love the hat. Which designer came up with the idea? Liberals – you know, the ones with New York Values – have no sense of humor. The hat is witty. I know people I could give that hat to.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  65. “Who will be President Bannon’s second choice?”

    Someone capable of looking forward to clinging to the suspension of the Trump Train!

    Rick Ballard (5e8a41)

  66. Jewish reporter asks Trump about a wave of bomb threats to Jewish Community Centers in the last month.

    Trump tells him to sit down and be quiet, calls him a liar:

    Trump tells Jewish magazine’s reporter to ‘sit down,’ blames anti-Semitism on ‘the other side

    Dave (711345)

  67. Well admiral ackbar or actually the Grey one from rogue one would say the sequester was a trap devised by Obama to do what he always wanted to.

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. My daughter calls them the Koi people.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  69. It’s cool, Dave, you only had five flavors to choose from.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  70. Most likely she is a ancestor to Twiggy.

    mg (31009b)

  71. @68 Dave

    CNN reporter asks President Trump about the uptick in calls to suicide hotlines in NY and LA. Trump tells him to go and do likely.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  72. Why’s the reporter gotta be Jewish, Dave?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  73. This tool, you mean:

    http://amimagazine.org/archives.html

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. @73, 74, 75:

    Keep defending the indefensible. It’s amusing as hell to watch.

    Dave (711345)

  75. 48 Jewish Community Centers received bomb threats in January.

    President Trump: Who cares? Sit down and shut up. Oh, and you’re a liar.

    Flashback: Donald Trump promised to end crime and violence as of January 20, 2017:

    “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored.”
    – Donald Trump, July 21, 2016

    Trump lied and thousands of victims of murder and rape in the last month have paid the price.

    Dave (711345)

  76. 48. Rick Ballard (5e8a41) — 2/16/2017 @ 3:20 pm

    Harward declined the wonderful opportunity to replace Flynn. I can’t imagine why.

    He was told no, he wouldn’t be able to fire everyone on the NSC staff that Flynn had hired.

    Sammy Finkelman (be6791)

  77. @76 Dave

    Even the indefensible deserve a defense, Dave! Resistance is Feudal!

    I just dropped in to see what condition your indignation is in…

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  78. I just dropped in to see what condition your indignation is in…

    My indignation is a well-oiled machine, just like the Trump administration.

    Dave (711345)

  79. The waters didn’t recede either, Dave.

    There wasn’t a chicken in every pot.

    Sorry, *SPOILER ALERT*

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  80. brassy Meghan’s grotesquely cowardly daddy can’t bring himself to vote for someone who would buck the status quo at the cong-approved EPA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. You would think that McCain would want the swamp drained.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  82. link for 85

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  83. This blog is like seven kinds of ugly. You people need to get out in the real world and visit with the three dimensional folk more I think.

    I need to go shower off the miserableness that is pattericos now, and avoid this pit of despair in the future.

    May you all find the grace of God, and the joy therein…

    Leon (1bee31)

  84. “32. Cruz actually ran a pretty well organized and smart campaign. The only major mistakes I can recall are the NY values thing, and the Iowa victory speech.”

    And crowing about gaming the Colorado primary. Bragging about doing the lawyer thing that’s the #1 reason people hate lawyers. Not smart.

    “32. I tend to think most people who supported Trump did so for visceral/emotional reasons (i.e. they hated the people/groups that Trump demagogued and wanted to believe his obviously false promises)”

    1: Here’s a clue — calling people names isn’t going to persuade them to agree with you. OTOH, maybe you don’t realise that you just did that. Lots on anti-Trumpers just automatically assume that Trump supporters are racist, etc. so they slip into name calling as a natural thing.

    “…and thus were not very susceptible to having their minds changed by somebody else’s policy speech.”

    2: Another hint: You need to go read Scott Adams blog about persuasion. He explains quite clearly that “policy speeches” don’t persuade anybody.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  85. You wanted to know about the cabinet pick;

    http://babalublog.com/2017/02/16/miami-lawmakers-praise-trumps-new-labor-pick

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. In the eyes of many, thats praise from the wrong kind of people. Finally something for a community that stepped up to be a (not needed, as it turned out later that night) margin of victory.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  87. Trump got elected for the same reason Barack Obama did. Because stupid people are allowed to vote.

    nk (dbc370)

  88. I don’t care, it was actually quite significant enough to be the 4th cabinet of sub cabinetnomination if my paisans, the 5th aj delgado well she talked herself out of a job.

    narciso (d1f714)

  89. Trump was elected because lawyers stink, lie and cheat.

    mg (31009b)

  90. And crowing about gaming the Colorado primary. Bragging about doing the lawyer thing that’s the #1 reason people hate lawyers. Not smart.

    By that time he was in a (practically) hopeless position anyway. I don’t recall him “crowing” about it, either. It was Trump who started repeating the shameless lie that something nefarious had occurred when in fact he was just trying to cover up for his incompetence.

    Here’s a clue — calling people names isn’t going to persuade them to agree with you. OTOH, maybe you don’t realise that you just did that. Lots on anti-Trumpers just automatically assume that Trump supporters are racist, etc. so they slip into name calling as a natural thing.

    I don’t think all Trump supporters are racists. But I do think all white racists are Trump supporters. And they were an important component of his primary campaign coalition. He couldn’t have won the nomination with them alone, but I don’t think he could have won it without them, either.

    Regardless, last year was the time for persuasion. Now it is time for consequences, which will eventually speak with a logic of their own.

    2: Another hint: You need to go read Scott Adams blog about persuasion. He explains quite clearly that “policy speeches” don’t persuade anybody.

    Right, well, if I am able to convince someone, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that I can do the impossible, and make everything wonderful for them with no sacrifice or cost on their part, your options as my opponent are pretty limited.

    You can try to outbid me, by promising them even more absurd and impossible things, or you can try to convince them, through reason, that what I’ve promised is impossible. But the former strategy requires you to become as morally bankrupt and dishonest as I am, and latter strategy is hopeless if they really want to believe my lies.

    In his first book, Trump described exactly how he lies to make people believe what they want to believe (he also says that he feels no compunction or guilt about lying to people in that way).

    Note that Trump’s shamelessly dishonest “I will give you everything” (an actual quote from his stump speech) approach has long been standard operating procedure for the Democrats.

    Reagan was great persuader, yet he was also able to articulate positive, fact-based policy positions with humor and a common touch, and convince people of their merits.

    I think the original post by Harkin @27 was complaining that on caucus night in Iowa, Cruz had the opportunity to make a Reagan-esque speech laying out a coherent, positive vision of economic opportunity and limited government for the country, and building peoples’ comfort level with him, that could have united a lot of opposition to Trump behind him. But he didn’t do it, and his victory in Iowa did essentially nothing to alter the long-term trajectory of the race.

    Of course, one can never do more than speculate about something that didn’t happen. Maybe the spirit of Reagan could have descended from heaven and blessed him on national TV, and Trump still would have won. (That night Rubio *did* give an eloquent, Reagan-esque speech, which was very well-received, and it didn’t really help him that much). Regardless, it was a missed opportunity.

    Dave (711345)

  91. #46 Tillman, you’re the same guy who was applauding the violence and arson at Berzerkeley a couple weeks ago. You giddily warned us that more of it is coming in the future.
    But just like Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver, you all of a sudden pretend to be an altar boy whenever the grown-ups walk into the room.

    Your thirst for street violence was on display a couple weeks ago. Don’t forget that the blog archive are for-evah!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  92. Here’s an interesting tidbit, that shows that assuange will still be a conduit for information for whistleblowers

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/16/wikileaks-drops-bombshell-report-exposing-cia-involvement-in-2012-french-election/

    narciso (e490f4)

  93. The point is to show that fashion statements are a trivial concern in light of the likes of at least one extremist being caught planning a massacre. At the same time, it’s also to show that it’s easy to demonize either extremist side. What do you think the point of the post is, Chuck?

    You are the very definition of “disingenuous”. I wasn’t addressing the post in general, just your asinine comment.

    You said at least leftists weren’t planning mass murder, then showed one case of some apparently conservative nutjob who was. But there are plenty of nutjob leftists who have planned and committed mass murder. If you weren’t trying to smear conservatives, then what were you trying to do?

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)


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