FINALLY: Gateway Pundit Brings Pepe to the White House
Jim Hoft brought his special combination of factual inaccuracy and overuse of exclamation points to the White House briefing room today. He and his White House correspondent went around taking selfies of themselves making the “OK” sign favored by Pepe the Frog, a symbol adopted by the alt-right. Here’s the Pepe the Frog thumbs up:
And here is Gateway Pundit and his sidekick at the briefing room podium, with the White House placard behind them:
Just in case you were inclined to miss the point, and defend them by pointing out that everyone uses the OK sign, Hoft was kind enough to include a Pepe hashtag and green frog to represent Pepe. Here’s the icing on the cake:
So, just because dishonest punks like Hoft will now post a bunch of images of people making an OK sign who have no intent to evoke Pepe with it . . . doesn’t mean that Hoft and his little sidekick there didn’t mean to evoke Pepe. Because they did.
If you somehow missed the fact that Pepe has been adopted by the alt-right and a lot of Neo-Nazis, browse through this Google image search a little and educate yourself. Here are some examples:
I, for one, am thrilled to see the symbols of the alt-right being brought openly into our White House, aren’t you?
[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]
Ding.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:05 pmSo outrageously outrageous. I am righteously outraged.
Oh wait. It’s just a cartoon by people trying to do something silly. Nevermind.
pepe origin
NJRob (96f698) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:08 pmThe guy who created it was not intending to create a symbol of the alt-right.
But that is what it has become, and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is spreading misinformation.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:10 pmThe utter dishonesty of Hoft on this is laughable. He posts the stuff above, and is clearly evoking an alt-right meme, but then posts all these pictures of Obama and other non-alt-right people making an OK sign. As if that shows that he’s not evoking what he clearly just showed he WAS trying to evoke.
I think lying has become habitual with him.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:11 pmThat ship sailed three weeks ago when Steve Bannon got an office in the West Wing, didn’t it?
Dave (711345) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:12 pmlawyers have made misinformation the norm
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:13 pmyou don’t like the frog because you think the frog represents nefarious ideologies
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:15 pmBetter Bannon than some black lives matter twit.
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:15 pmHave your frog, you mutant spawn of Harry Caray and Jack Buck. When things need to get done, they have to be done like this: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/13/world-press-photo-year-turkey-russian-assassination – not with black blocs, pussy knotters, and furtive pleas at award shows.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:18 pmSome one tell the journal or the post
https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/831239387874729985/photo/1
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:20 pmWhat does that mean?
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:20 pmHe’s doing it to provoke a response. He got a reaction. That’s all.
He’s made his name by trying to be a provocateur.
NJRob (96f698) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:20 pmMg nailed it.
The left lives with racists, coddles them, loves them. They base their entire party line on hating white men and what our country stands for.
I can’t get worked up at Hoft tweaking those jerks and getting them to foam at the mouth.
I still won’t visit his site or promote him though. Not sure why you chose to instead.
NJRob (96f698) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:23 pmHe’s always been very nice I think, Mr. Hoft has
he’s been around for ages if he wasn’t a good person we would know by now
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:24 pmi think the frog
i don’t wanna say the frog is ugly
but i’ve seen cuter ones for sure
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:25 pmBratwurst und sauerkraut.
“Frog One is in that room.” – ‘Popeye’ Doyle [Gene Hackman] ‘The French Connection’ 1971
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:26 pmLet’s see… who appears to be promoting chaos in the streets, in the media, at our universities, etc.? The “alt-right”?
Or the alt-left?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:27 pmYou pick yer feet in Poughkeepsie?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:28 pmooh look if you google “mickey mouse nazi” you get a bunch of pictures of mickey mouse looking like a nazi
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:29 pmIs it the ACLU who are trying to subvert our immigration laws? Or Gateway Pundit?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:30 pmTroll and mini-troll.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:30 pmHoft needs to go to journalism school where he would learn that a real journalist pretends to have no political beliefs, and hides the hammer and sickle badge in his bottom drawer.
Kishnevi (0cb353) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:32 pmIs it the Mexican government who have stated that they are prepared to spend tens of millions of dollars on lawsuits to clog our courts to stop deportation of illegal immigrants? Or is it Gateway Pundit and Pepe teh Frog?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:34 pmThe last cartoon character that outraged me was Fritz the Cat.
Because cat.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:36 pmWhen will I get my 15 minutes of Hitler!?!?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:38 pmI’m so out of touch, I always thought it was just a sign that someone got trolled.
Harkin (de269f) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:39 pmToo edgy I liked Felix, that what a & e used to be.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:39 pmWhat’s long and green and smells like Patterico?
Pepe teh Frog’s finger…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:40 pmOkay… that last one outraged me and I condemn myself.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:40 pmAnd the history channel before Dan brown and super disasters, hodytus weeps
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:41 pmclicking on the first linker in the pepe nazi image search results of the one that makes the lil frog look like a nazi on a postage stamp you learn this:
basically people started using the lil frog in association with Mr. Trump, then a bunch of pigsniffing hillary/soros operatives took the frog and made a bunch of nazi hitler memes to go along with their meme that Mr. Trump is just like Hitler
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:44 pmYes that was over the top, coronello, did heft paint a target on Zimmerman, that was the Miami herald, the new York times, NBC and abc news, most everyone involved there were promoted.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:45 pm“THIS IS WHY THEY THOUGHT THE TEA PARTY WAS ASTROTURF. BECAUSE THAT’S HOW THEY OPERATE. ‘Indivisible,’ With Ties to George Soros, Sows Division Against Trump, GOP Lawmakers. “Democrats who used to work on Capitol Hill are helping to disrupt Republican lawmakers’ town hall meetings across the country through a nationwide effort to oppose and ‘resist’ President Donald Trump’s agenda.”
And nothing says “authentic grassroots movement” like this pedigree:
Ezra Levin, a former staffer for Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, and his wife, Leah Greenberg, are the president and vice president of the Indivisible Guide’s board, respectively.
Levin is also associate director of the Corporation for Enterprise Development, an anti-poverty nonprofit. Melissa Bradley, who sits on that group’s board, previously worked for Green for All, a group founded by liberal commentator and former Obama administration official Van Jones. She was appointed as a Soros Justice Fellow through the Open Society Foundations, which Soros founded.
Greenberg previously worked for Humanity United, which is funded by Soros’ Open Society Institute.
The secretary of Indivisible Guide, Angel Padilla, works for the National Immigration Law Center, which is funded by Soros through his Open Society Foundations. And treasurer Matt Traidi is the research team director for the Service Employees International Union, a major donor to and endorser of Democrat politicians, Capital Research Center notes.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257268/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:49 pmOh, that narrative;
knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/nazi-pepe-controversy
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:50 pmZimmerman should have gone ghost after his aquittal like the second less famous one of Jeanine Nicarico’s supposed killers.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:50 pmEverything I disagree with is Hitler.
Everything I agree with is justice.
Black
White
Simple
Best burn all the green frogs just to be safe.
Fangbeer (b4a2f7) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:53 pmif you click on the first result of your second nazi picture you get taken to http://www.info*stormer.com (i had to add an asterisk cause of the filter)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:53 pmthe actual page is http://www.info*stormer.com/lol-pepe-the-frog-added-to-adls-list-of-hate-symbols/
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:53 pmJoe Walsh (the former 1 term IL congressman, not the former Eagles guitarist) thinks it’s not astroturf and that Rs should pay heed without writing it off as Soros handiwork.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:53 pmas far as i can tell this site basically exists for the sole purpose of associating Mr. Trump’s name and logo with anti-semitic and racist ideas and memes
you can tell by how the trump logo is on every page
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:56 pmregister.com said the site is registered through
Tech Name: PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:57 pmTech Organization:
Tech Street: 12808 Gran Bay Pkwy West
Tech City: Jacksonville
Tech State/Province: FL
Tech Postal Code: 32258
that is very interesting
that’s the same outfit stinkypig registered her private email domain through
C
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:59 pmugh
that was supposed to say:
Clintonemail.com is currently registered to a company called Perfect Privacy, LLC.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:59 pmI think it is going to be a very long 4 yrs, or is that 8 yrs, for our host.
lynndh (39eade) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:59 pmit looks like you’ve been hoaxered Mr. Patterico
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:59 pm@25. When will I get my 15 minutes of Hitler!?!?
These 8 minutes should be close enough for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
Try the cheese ravioli at the Axis Cafe. Ist wunderbar!
“And now for something completely different.” — ‘Monty Python’s Flying Circus’ BBC TV
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:04 pmColonel Haiku Fenton Mudd [jpg]
We don’t bother with Hitler memes for Colonels.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:14 pmThere are Pepe the Frog Neo-Nazis all over Twitter. If Ben Shapiro retweets anything of mine, they swarm me. Deny it all you like. Doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:23 pmif I could rescue you from twitter I’d do it in a heartbeat
that place is no good
say hi to Ben though I like him he’s very feisty
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:25 pmSo every site that is registered through the same company that people use for anonymity . . . is run by the same person.
Gotcha.
That site has been around since February 2014, by the way. I guess they knew Trump would announce almost a year and a half later and become the darling of Neo-Nazis. Pretty smart of the Hillary folks!
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:30 pmGood Lord, “Sh*tter” would be dead if the President has not become the President.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:31 pmWell, Patterico, he was being primed by the HRC campaign as a most beatable stooge, so why not the honey pot.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:32 pmwell the fact they put Trump’s logo on every page says something … something what you have to interpret
i interpret it as obviously being a false flag operation
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:32 pmIt exists for being an anti-Semitic hate site. Here is a February 2014 post, to take one example of hundreds, labeling Bill DeBlasio a Zionist whore. All part of Hillary’s master plan against Donald Trump!
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:34 pmgoodnight
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:34 pmoh i did not know you replied
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:34 pmOr maybe there are anti-Semites who like Trump.
Only there’s no maybe about it.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:35 pmYou guys believe what you want to believe. You will anyway.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:36 pmhappyfeet, don’t you want to post images of Obama making the OK sign and ask me if he is engaging in hate speech? That would be a dishonest Trump-supporting distraction.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:37 pmI believe that when I call Neo-Nazis “alt.light_in_the_loafers”, Hoft and his twink prove me right.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:39 pmHere is what i see ok google some text from the info*stormer article
you find that same post at https://leaksource.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-is-a-hypocritical-zionist-wh*ore/#comments
where they credit a now-dead site for the authorship:
http://www.daily*slave.com/new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-is-a-hypocritical-zionist-who*re/
it’s odd
and it leaves open the possibility that the stormer site is just a bunch of assembled hate speechy stuff somebody slapped together and threw a Trump logo on
and c’mon, the name’s kind of a too-obvious portmanteau of info*wars and storm*front, no?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:53 pmHere is what i see ok google some text from the info*stormer article
you find that same post at https://leak*source.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-is-a-hypocritical-zio*nist-wh*ore/#comments
where they credit a now-dead site for the authorship:
http://www.daily*slave.com/new-york-city-mayor-bill-de-blasio-is-a-hypocritical-zio*nist-who*re/
it’s odd
and it leaves open the possibility that the stormer site is just a bunch of assembled hate speechy stuff somebody slapped together and threw a Trump logo on
and c’mon, the name’s kind of a too-obvious portmanteau of info*wars and storm*front, no?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:54 pmnow for reals i have to go to bed
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:56 pmthis is at instapundit tonight
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:01 pmYes, it is.
Disappointing.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:03 pmThere’s a little more to it than simply making an OK symbol, viewed in context, and Hoft’s tweets show that clearly.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:15 pmWow. What an absolute firestorm of Trumpkin apologist dipsh*tery this post provoked. Is it so hard to call out goobers like Hoft for what they are? Really? Is it that hard?
Or has a big ole chunk of our population just turned into a bunch of unprincipled water-carriers?
Leviticus (c2dcf8) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:27 pmIt’s not easy being green
NC Mountain Girl (cd54ec) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:35 pmI need a handbook of secret Nazi handshakes and finger gestures, so that I don’t accidentally violate protocol while scratching myself.
Does flipping the bird still mean [edit] off?
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:50 amPepe symbolizes indifference. That thing you care about: Pepe doesn’t care about it. He’s staring at you, a little bit smug, and a lot indifferent. Oh, you have concerns? Pepe arches his eyebrow. He is intrigued to know that you care–Pepe was already satisfied with himself for not caring about it, but the fact that you care about it makes it all the more satisfying to him that he does not.
This isn’t because Pepe is a bad person (frog?). It’s because Pepe has his own problems to worry about. See: all of the “Glum Pepe” images that for years preceded “Smug Pepe.”
Pepe is the perfect symbol for people who are tired of other people’s outrage (real or contrived, justified or frivolous). That’s why this particular meme caught on with Trump supporters. Pepe is kryptonite to political correctness and identity politics leftism, because those things cannot exist without perpetual outrage. Being smug is the opposite of earnest virtue signaling. People love sharing Pepe memes because he connects with us at a fundamental level. He was the most powerful meme of 2016.
If the 2016 race had been between Bernie and Jeb (or Barack and Mittens), it would be leftists who took up Pepe images, to celebrate not caring about the pearl-clutching by the right about the many evils and failures of socialism and Obamacare. There is nothing inherently right-wing or alt-right about Pepe. Surely you remember how many irreverent memes Obama’s supporters shared during his campaigns, and how earnest and responsible (and relatively memeless) his opponents were.
Jealous Jew-haters, who are unpopular and unloved twitter trolls, want to steal Pepe for themselves, to take his power for themselves. If these bad people had their way, they would appropriate Pepe, who would come to be known only as a symbol of anti-Semitism and white nationalism.
I, for one, don’t want to give Pepe over to the Jew-haters. If we give him up, what meme will we ever be able to keep? Jew-haters will steal all of our memes through their repulsive cultural appropriation. We can’t afford to give up Pepe. He is kryptonite to political correctness.
Daryl Herbert (7be116) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:34 amI wish I could believe you, Daryl. And even if you’re right, it wouldn’t be the first time that a symbol was hijacked by assholes for unsavory purposes.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:16 amHere’s the real Soros pedigree, Colonel and the real Nazi’s.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IPMt-8WQCr8/WGmWHnI2OcI/AAAAAAABdmM/6_i61w6BuG4UdCZxNgFIcAC0OKxUlLoawCLcB/s640/unnamed%2B%25281%2529.jpg
And yet I don’t see no stinkin’ Pepe’s.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:28 amYep, Hoagie. David Horowitz wrote a book that digs deep into the Soros machine.
On another front, does anyone remember the Allsop fable of “the Prosecutor and the Frog”?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:42 amThat Soros graphic is total horsesh!t, Hoagie! The original fake news put out by mouth-breathers and believe by nose-pickers.
Soros was a Hungarian Jew, and Hungary was already under a Nazi government and a Hitler ally when it started. The SS had some “sub-humans” in special units in the subjugated nations — the Ukraine and the Baltics, mainly — but it never had any Jews.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:44 am*believed* by nose-pickers
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:45 amAnd he would have been fifteen when the war ended.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:47 amAnd I’ll tell you something else, dude. If I’m thirteen year old and MY GOVERNMENT orders my father to make up lists of fellow Jews to be shipped off to concentration camps, I might grow up with a very cynical attitude about nationalism, and countries, and flags, and loyalties, and so-called “western values”.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:52 amI’m not a follower of GP or Jim Hoft tweets so I went to both and looked at few weeks worth of stuff.
I don’t see any naziism or white supremacy or race hate but I see a lot of ridicule for people who claim that’s what he’s all about. I did however enjoy that he calls the NYTimes “Carlos Slim’s blog”.
I’m going to remain thinking Pepe means you are being trolled and the OK symbol means OK.
Harkin (de269f) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:05 amPepe’s a little frog that’s been cruelly abused i feel he has a long road ahead of him
the healing process can’t start until he finds some measure of peace and stability
and that’s exactly what people seem to be bent on denying him
pray for little Pepe won’t you
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:16 amYes the arrow cross were nasty pieces of work, like the cagpule or the oun
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:18 amnk defending Soros. Will the wonders never cease.
The guy is scum who deserved to be jailed for destroying nations and fomenting insurrection.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:22 amThis guy has the makings of a national treasure… http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/02/13/shoving-alinskys-rules-for-radicals-right-back-in-the-lefts-ugly-face-n2284892
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:25 amWell there was a time when he aided humanitarian groups in eastern Europe during the cold war, but he also pushed for drug legalization, at what point he became blofeld or let chiffre its not clear.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:31 amThe guy is scum who deserved to be jailed for destroying nations and fomenting insurrection.
No objection. But putting him in an SS uniform? That’s just beyond the pale.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:32 amHaiku,
I just finished reading that and was going to link it, but you beat me to it.
Appreciate that he linked to Ace’s guest’s post about how results matter.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:48 amWould a KGB uniform, or French Revolutionary be better?
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:50 amNow this is classy
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:12 amhttps://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/831483401467265024
I do not agree with your assessment that the Pepe the frog is some alt-right mascot. Instead, I will continue to think of what it was before the election. A meme about an adult who is extremely immature.
G (f85a02) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:13 amAre you also going to deny that they were doing the OK symbol as a Pepe reference? That’s the very transparent game they’re playing, but only a willing fool buys it.
I agree that Gateway Pundit is not exactly Stormfront, but he’d be their cheering section if they came to power. Here is a post of his quoting Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor favorably as they whined about having their Press Club event shut down. He told Spencer’s fans that the event would be held elsewhere; “Journalists and other interested may sign up here to receive the location.”
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:18 amOK. I guess a lot of alt-right white nationalist Twitter accounts really, really enjoy a meme about an adult who is extremely immature.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:33 amBefore last night my guess is that about 9 people not already part of the Alt-Right knew anything about this.
I’m a pretty decent consumer of political news, and I never heard of Pepe or the Alt-Right’s affection for him before your post.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:36 amWell, I wouldn’t really know to the usage on twitter, nor do I exactly care. I am just saying that the Pepe meme sticks and is used with Trump because he is very immature. He’s a man-child just like Obama.
G (f85a02) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:39 amSerious discussions about a cartoon frog mascot named Pepe…
Who could’ve predicted this is where we’d all be in 1Q2017? Just kill me now…
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:44 amSo?
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:44 am91… yes.
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:45 amGoodness gracious great frogs of fire!
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:45 amthe alt-right was conflated with racism by CNN Anderson Cooper fake news
in real life it just means an alternative to establishment trash like Jeb Bush and pervy Mitt Romney
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:46 amI’m one of the nine. Patterico is another. Who are the other seven?
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:47 amWell, need only six now.
G (f85a02) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:48 amYou can’t get your blog in govt buildings you can get the puffington which is practically volkisher, you can get Yahoo who employs Couric and Chadian, rewarded foot their mendacity.
narciso (f11fa6) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:55 amRibbit coronello the Times goes game of thrones with , crickets. They destroyed George Zimmerman because he was a convenient scapegoat for sharpton’ s agends
narciso (f11fa6) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:58 amNars, then thank god for the level heads of Ernst and Young and the old timers of United and the former Continental Airlines, otherwise I’d be deprived.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:59 amZimmerman would have made a great spy, such an adaptable face to many cultures occupying the lower latitudes both N and S.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:00 amYou have to unpack that,
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a29e1ee4b0ab2d2b187775?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
narciso (f11fa6) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:03 amSo the symbol has been adopted by the alt right. So that.
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:10 amIn all honesty, Flynn didnt bother me much and is merely the military application of Lewandowski. I’d cash in my Turkish Cop card on Miller.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:11 amhttps://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/20 17-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn
narciso (f11fa6) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:13 amnonono it’s been adopted by a bunch of pigsniffing false-flaggers what are trying to conflate the “alt-right” with unsavory thinkings
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:15 amYour guess is wildly wrong and just adds to misinformation. If you don’t know anything about a particular topic, sometimes the better practice is to remain silent while you learn about it, rather than giving uninformed “guesses” that just contribute to a false narrative. I am telling you in no uncertain terms that I would routinely be swarmed by alt-right white nationalist Twitter accounts during the campaign, often when Ben Shapiro would retweet one of my tweets.
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:19 amAnd?
Do you forget when your friend Breitbart said “so?”
I don’t care what the alt-right does. There are people on that side we can work with and people we can’t. But as long as they direct their angst at the left and keep the ugly wannabe french revolutionaries off my back, I’m fine with that.
Alt-west members of the alt-right understand the benefits of western civilization and want to keep the left from demolishing it. By focusing on the worst offenders of the alt right, you are playing into the left’s hand. Just like they tarred all conservatives with the worst offenders of the right.
This is about civilization and whether my children will grow up in a nation where they have the chance to be free or whether they will be enslaved unless they self-flagellate for their sin of being born white. No thanks. We aligned with Stalin to defeat the Nazis. The left is no less an enemy.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:23 amWhether there are any false flaggers or not — and I am sure there were some — there are plenty of real alt-righters who use Pepe as their mascot. Period. Many have been banned from Twitter. Their presence was certainly more apparent during the campaign.
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:23 ami just feel people are using the frog which is not even a racism frog to smear Mr. Hoft when he’s never done racism on anyone either
he just made the okeydokey sign
which the frog makes sometimes too
but Hitler never made the okeydokey sign
the semiotics of all this are very confusing
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:27 amWhy do I get the distinct feeling that you have demanded that moderate Muslims denounce terrorism, and do not see how that demand is inconsistent with your current position?
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:28 amStaying off twitter continues to be my sincere advice to nearly everybody. Even people previously thought to be discriminating and rational are increasingly shown to be capable of losing their minds over unimportant/unsubstantiated things they saw on Twitter. Twitter is sometimes valuable for breaking news, but mostly twitterers and twitter accounts just push memes and agendas. Most twitter traffic and twitter wars are childish and are seen by normal people for what they are– unfiltered narcissism by the tweeters–whether they are famous or not famous. Those of us who consciously try to avoid twitter can’t even escape its idiocy because other people and places where we don’t expect to find it try to draw us in via their own twitter idiocy. Regular doses of Twitter appear to be ruining people’s ability to think clearly and judge reality. Frogs, indeed. Hashtags, indeed. “Alt-right” = Hitler, oh good grief. Twitter is protected speech but is a very small and unhealthy space in society that most of America despises and with good reason, ignores.
Not participating in or facilitating blog wars would be another piece of advice. There is not wide interest in this, by readers, I think.
elissa (7bf275) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:28 amIn short, NJRob, I call out bullshit when I see it on both sides of the aisle, and you call it out on only one side of the aisle. That is the difference between us.
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:29 amthe alt right is 100% all about calling out bs on both sides of the aisle
that’s their whole thing what they do
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:30 am113. Excellent Patterico!
Tillman (a95660) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:31 amI don’t give a damn about moderate Muslims. I do believe that their “prophet” is a pedophile and he enslaved people on his path to conquest. I will do all I can to convert Muslims away from their evil faith and to find salvation in Jesus.
Own goal then. Because the left will never do the same for you.
So.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:31 amgotta love being put in moderation for a normal word.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:32 amElissa, you characterized my criticism of Steve Bannon for dishonesty as a personal snit, and you denigrate my concerns about the White House bringing a ridiculous propagandist into the White House briefing room as a “blog war.” Just because you snidely and dismissively discount these legitimate concerns as merely personal does not make that the truth.
Patterico (f292fa) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:34 amBingo.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:35 amThe face of political Islam is rarely moderate, that why cair teams up with splc to slime the tea party, hirsi Ali. Organize the airport protests run cover for the Orlando shooter’s wife. It is the sin feinn of salafism.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:44 amThe last time they tried this gambit was to push Jane Herman relatively sensible democrat out of pelosi’s way in the aipac witchunt
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:47 am121… yes, I personally left it behind for the same reasons. All sorts of crazy to be found there. In addition, I don’t like the way twitter is run/administered.
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:14 am“Moderate” moslems, Patterico? Have you been paying attention at all? There are three kinds of moslems: those who will kill you, those who will cheer them on but won’t kill you themselves, and those who will not kill you but won’t stop the others from killing you.
For God sake PLEASE read their book! It’s all there for the world to see. What have they been doing for the last 1400 years, painting the Sistine Chapel, inventing penicillin and inventing the computer? No, rather raping and murdering their way around the globe. In fact the very first person to declare war on the United States was the pasha of Tripoli.
This Islamophilia has to stop.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:24 am“We aligned with Stalin to defeat the Nazis. The left is no less an enemy.”
– NJRob
You sound silly and overwrought when you say things like that.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:26 am“What have they been doing for the last 1400 years, painting the Sistine Chapel, inventing penicillin and inventing the computer? ”
– Rev. Hoagie
Traditionally, this would be the part where someone who didn’t know better would waste his or her time pointing out all the amazing and valuable things that Muslims have invented and created.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:28 amIronic, though, that *this* thread – on the topic that all the Trumpkins are labelling unimportant – is the one with all the comments. Rather than the thread discussing the resignation of Trump’s national security adviser, less than a month into Trump’s presidency, due to said national security adviser’s overwhelmingly shady conversations with the Russians. Which is, of course, a variation on a broader theme.
Nothing to see there, right? Nobody wants to talk about that topic. Crickets over there – instead, let’s all talk about how “Jim Hoft is a distraction, Patterico should cover more important issues!”
Pretty transparent, folks.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:32 amCan’t speak for others, L, but I am perfectly OK with Flynn getting the ax and have no insight on who his replacement will be. So I don’t know what more there is to say over there other than has already been discussed.
elissa (7bf275) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:40 amSorry Leviticus, I have read this blog for a long time and to see Patterico sort of parrot the SPLC, I did a double take.
G (f85a02) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:42 amTell it to the 2 leftists trying to run the DNC when they say they are here to hold white privilege in its place and stop white men.
NJRob (20e09f) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:42 amEveryone is fine with removing Flynn so there’s nothing to talk about. This isn’t Bush nominating his personal lawyer to the Supreme Court which was outrageous.
Your leftist beliefs and smugness is shining through.
NJRob (20e09f) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:46 am“Everyone is fine with removing Flynn so there’s nothing to talk about.”
– NJRob
Yeah, that’s not the story. The story is Trump’s incompetence and duplicity in appointing the guy in the first place.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:49 amMr. Trump is so good
he’s trying to do all the national security but the judges keep ruling in favor of the terrorists
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:57 amRibbit… Ribbit…
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:59 amI think you mean “so-called judges.”
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:00 amyeah them ones
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:02 amHow so? You’ve offered nothing of substance to support your supposition. Not surprising though.
He was open to blackmail? How?
NJRob (20e09f) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:04 amLeviticus, Republicans are whistling past Flynn, saying “Move on folks, nothing to see here.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NNOrp_83RU
Tillman (a95660) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:07 amYea algebra and all that, but since the 13th century, the puckungs have been slim, yes the pasha was more like a quadaffi than a salafi,,this is why Eaton led the first covert op
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:13 amSo nose picking is okay? WAIT. Is okay okay?
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:18 amNose picking must be okay. Otherwise how would Obama have flicked all those boogers at us.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:20 amThis reminds me of Senator Larry Craig, guilty of stop over in majority democratville, or taking a dump without certified notary public, then hounded out of office not so much by politico, but by Michelle Malkin, just in the nic o time for a fresh mint Idaho governor to appoint a dem o crt temposenator to make the deciding procedural vote to allow Obamacare to be rammed through without a single Republican vote.
Our checks and balances didn’t fail so much as they were beaten to death by Mob Jesus, seeing signs and portends in every nervous foot shuffle on the way to the witch burning.
As Bob Newhart would say, stop it.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:38 amnobody ever accused her of being logical calm reasoned or super smart
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:41 amYou never hired a guy and later fired him? You never hired a person who lied on his application or misrepresented his résumé? You’re a lucky guy, I fired dozens over the years.
You need mot do a exhaustive list of the “accomplishments” of moslems over the centuries, the ground of Europe and Asia is full of the bones to prove them. Fortunately this little Jewish girl is not deluded with left wing American propaganda.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VdZ7TbddjH0/WGGY0FQiGsI/AAAAAAABdZQ/IS_SZEugF5UmRsM6oMqcDzxv-mIp5pk_wCLcB/s1600/daily_picdump_2396_01.jpg
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:43 amMore like general boykin crimethink about being a public Christian.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:45 amHoagie, I think what L. is getting at here is the perfectly reasonable argument that two months ago President-Elect Trump and the transition team failed to foresee that Gen. Flynn would lie to the Vice President of the United States. 🙂
elissa (7bf275) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:50 amFeels good, man.
The most important thing to remember about Pepe is that Hillary picked a fight with him and lost.
Ingot (e5bf64) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:50 amPretty much. While it might have been beyond the competence of the Trump transition team to unearth the information, it wasn’t a mystery to anyone else that Flynn had extensive and compromising relations with the Russians. “How could we have known?!” is, if anything, a more pathetic refrain than “he violated the ‘don’t get caught’ rule.”
And what everyone continues to ignore is Trump’s constant mewling supplication to Vladimir Putin.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:54 amRev Hoagie
The Arabic version of George Washington Carver came up with over 1,400 uses for the IED!
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:56 amThat sounds about right Pinandpuller since they still don’t realize there are more types of vests than bullet proof and suicide.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:07 amThe guy next to Hoft, Lucian Wintrich, says he’s a,” gay conservative mouthpiece.”
That sounds like a grinder profile.
As to Hoft, he looks more like a Sad Puppy. You say he likes to write fiction, no?
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:11 amYEAH, THE FLYNN RESIGNATION’S AN EMBARRASSMENT, but Obama had his failed appointments, often tinged with scandal: “There’s Chas Freeman, Sanjay Gupta, Annette Nazareth, Tom Daschle, Bill Richardson, Nancy Killefer — who am I leaving out? And there are still problems with Adolfo Carrion. But at least Ron Kirk made it through despite his tax problems. . . . Oh, yeah. Judd Gregg. And the Zinni debacle.” I don’t recall the press acting like that was the beginning of the end for Obama’s presidency.”
Perhaps Tillie knows better…
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257335/
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:12 amAdolfo Carrion… man, there’s a suitable name for teh Ages…
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:13 amSpeaking of “Tillies”, the one that did make the Cabinet might end up with a bunch of new Mobil Marts in one swoop:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/13/secretary-state-tillerson-planning-trip-to-mexico-amid-tense-relations.html.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:19 amAs Patton said:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/319394-with-flynn-resignation-the-white-house-shadow-warriors#.WKMhgsaUc-s.facebook
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:23 amRev Hoagie
I’ve worked with several Muslims over the past six years or so. One thing that really stands out for me is that they claimed to be Russian but it turned out that they were Uzbeks. I don’t know if they were outright lying or identifying by the “dead” Soviet Bloc.
One thing is for sure: if we keep importing Muslims America’s couch industry is going to take a big hit.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:24 am“YEAH, THE FLYNN RESIGNATION’S AN EMBARRASSMENT, but Obama had his failed appointments!”
– Colonel Haiku
Keepin’ it unpredictable, I see.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:25 amBedbugs? I thought that plus general sloth would help the American couch industry. It will take the hit but from the Gingrichian fantasy of blacks “hustling to work like in Hong Kong” coming to light.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:28 amWhere’s your link to Flynn’s shady dealings with the Russkies, Leviticvs?
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:33 amRev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 10:43 am
Kishnevi (480bf9) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:55 amThat’s an extremely odd photo, if the location is the one I think it is. Can I ask where you find it?
(Security in that spot is provided by the IDF. If she is on duty, why is she not in uniform? If she is off duty, why is she carrying a firearm? And most odd is why she is dressed like that in that location, risking the anger of Charedi Jews for her uncovered hair, her dress, and holding hands with a man.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:24 am
They may have come here before the fall of the Soviets, and the country remains very firmly in the Russian orbit. I have known Jews from Khazakstan, who came here in that period and describe themselves as Russian, only identifying the actual place when asked for details.
Another possible motive is simply not wanting to deal with people who don’t know where or what Uzbekistan is.
Kishnevi (480bf9) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:03 pmRe: 161 – due to terrorists (that is, “Palestinians”) targeting off duty military, the new rule is Israeli military carry arms while off duty. http://www.themedialine.org/news/israeli-army-orders-soldiers-to-carry-arms-when-off-duty/
Steven Malynn (d29fc3) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:05 pmTwitter Journalism. This must stop.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2017/02/14/fake-news-ny-times-journalist-touts-bogus-michael-flynn-twitter
elissa (7bf275) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:07 pm163
Kishnevi (480bf9) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:11 pmThanks, I obviously missed that when it was announced.
I find that the alt-Left is FAR more powerful and numerous than any “alt-Right.” It owns major newspapers, runs colleges and attacks university speakers.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:20 pmI don’t doubt that an “alt-right” exists. I don’t doubt that the “alt-right” has adopted the image of “Pepe” as their mascot.
I don’t doubt that your Twitter was “swarmed” by “alt-right” white nationalists when you posted during the campaign.
None of that undercuts my point that the entire “alt-right” meme and its influence is so far to the border of the political debate that it is of no real significance.
How many accounts would “swarm you”?? 500? 1000? 5000?
500 is a poorly attended high school soccer game.
1000 is a CIF playoff basketball game.
5000 is what the Rams might draw next year on average.
The “Alt Right” is like “Occupy Wall Street” — they get attention because the demand attention, not because the warrant attention.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:33 pmPinandpuller I have not been personally exposed to many moslems in my life. That said, anecdotally I have known several and a few even worked for me. I once helped a manager of mine obtain a higher paying GM job at TGI Friday’s. He was a nice enough fellow whose name was….Mohammad…Bingo! I also hired an Iraqi investment rep when I had a financial services company. He was Fadi. Both of these guys were nice guys. Quiet. Friendly. Of course I knew Mohammad in the 80’s and Fadi worked for me from 1991-1994. Before 9/11. Ironically, a half loaded Mohammad once said to me at a Christmas party “Someday there won’t be Christmas parties because there won’t be any Christians left”. We laughed. As I read more and more about Islam and studied the prophet and imams it slowly occurred to me Mohammad was serious.
Mohammad also declined an Independence Day pool party at my home because “I’m moslem. Allah is my government so I don’t recognize the Fourth”. When I said that Islam was a religion he corrected me that islam is a religion, a state, the law and a way of life. Being a naïve, white, Christian American at the time I let it go.
These people are not to be dismissed. To them Mohammad is like Jim Jones, Charles Manson and Hitler all wrapped together. If he says you kill, you kill. If he says you die, you die.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:42 pmKishnevi, I do not know the exact spot that photo was taken.
You got it wrong. He likes white friction.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 12:49 pmhappyfeet: “in real life it [the term alt-right] just means an alternative to establishment trash like Jeb Bush and pervy Mitt Romney”
No. That’s not how the term has ever been used.
The Tea Party was outside the establishment, but that wasn’t alt-right. Andrew Breitbart was outside the establishment, but he wasn’t alt-right. The term had, and to some extent, still has, an imprecise meaning. See, for example, Milo’s unflattering explanation of what “alt-right” meant, from 10 months ago (by describing who was in it)
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
Later during the campaign, the term “alt-right” came to have an even narrower meaning, because of the way it was used by mainstream commentators: namely, it meant the 1488ers and people very comfortable with racism (willing to be fellow travelers with openly racist people and willing to spread racist memes that they might not themselves believe because they enjoyed the shock value).
It may be the mainstream wanted to discredit* the “alt-right” by defining the term in the worst possible way.
* not that the mainstream needed much help, the alt-right was sketchy to begin with
Daryl Herbert (7be116) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:05 pmA mire possible explantion
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/former-obama-officials-loyalists-waged-campaign-oust-flynn
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:06 pmSame fake Flynn tweet covered at #164 makes the round of Democrat talkers. And around the world it goes.
During a press briefing held by House Democrats regarding the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi cited a tweet from a phony Michael Flynn Twitter account that claimed Flynn viewed himself as the “sole scapegoat” of the controversy surrounding his resignation.
It’s not surprising that Pelosi viewed the tweet in question as factual as both The New York Times and Newsmax had reported on it as such earlier in the day.
DC Examiner’s Gabby Morrongiello pointed out that Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had also fallen “victim” to the fake tweet in his prepared remarks:
elissa (7bf275) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:12 pmAnd these people have the stones to talk of “fake news”…
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:13 pmI will concede one point:
Glenn wrote: ““OK” is now a white supremacist hate gesture or something.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257276/
To say that, without acknowledging the context (that Hoft was clearly referencing Pepe, something that he made overwhelmingly obvious) is dramatically oversimplifying Media Matters’ concern, because Hoft was not simply saying “ok.”
But I don’t agree that Pepe is only used by racists. I don’t agree that because some racists use Pepe, the rest of us need to drop him. He is beloved by many. I don’t agree that throwing out the Pepe sign should be understood as a clear statement of anti-Semitism, or even as an ambiguous statement of anti-Semitism. I don’t see Hoft’s tweet as embodying any kind of bigotry. If that’s his meaning, he’s hidden it very, very well.
Maybe Glenn didn’t feel like explaining all that.
If we have to give up Pepe because some racists love him, do we also have to give up Donald Trump?
Daryl Herbert (7be116) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:13 pmNK
It’s a wonder the girl sodomized by Roman Polanski didn’t turn into a currency speculator.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:18 pmGood one, Hoagie at 169 the post number.
Andrew Breitbart was probably the mathematical average between the go along get along that Happyfeet detests and the current definition of alt-right. He was a big-so long as I’m not compromising my principles-tenter, versus the narrower appeal of Bannon the cascadingly even narrower appeal of M.Y., Miller, Day, and Spencer. The Charleston Killer was at least open to N.E. Asians being part of the team.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:19 pmLet’s see elissa. The New York Times, Newsmax, Pelosi and Elijah. Yep the top tier of the Democrat Brain Trust. Throw in Waters, Grayson* and Schumer and it’s a power house of leftist intellect.
Why is it okay for Grayson to be a hedge fund manager?
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:21 pmNoKo launches ICBM.
Iran on the way.
Inflation up.
Treasury buys down.
Economy stalled.
66% of the Navy’s jets inoperable.
UC Berkeley rioters deny free speech and smash things.
9th Circuit says any judge can fine tune an EO and stay it.
But look! An OK sign! With a frog!
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:23 pmUrbanleftbehind
I’m sorry, I should have been more specific on the importation of Arabs, but most of them are Muslims.
The Pillow Industrial Complex, as previously described by happyfeet, should be ecstatic at the prospect of more Arabs. To say nothing of Big Rug.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:28 pmIt sounds like to me that Steve Bannon is one ship away from becoming L Ron Hubbard.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:29 pm178… Harcourt Fenton Mudd, you rascal, you!
Someone oughtta nuke that effin’ frog, or serve his legs to Leviticus froggystyle.
Colonel Haiku (8f010c) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:32 pmPinandpuller, have you watched “Generation Zero”? If he believes in the message communicated by that movie, we are in good hands. I think he would believe in it, given that the whole point of making the movie was to spread that specific message (and not, for example, to boost our opinion of him)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3SLtP10NQ8
Daryl Herbert (7be116) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:41 pmThe alt-right is the rights counter to the left’s identity politics. They believe the ideology war is now obsolete, and eventually everyone not of the progressive bent will have to join them sooner or later, or surrender. Fighting the left’s identity politics with ideology is like using a calvary charge with sabers against machine guns.
They (other than the kook fringe every movement has, more on that later) are not white SUPREMACISTS, unless you call a white supremacist anyone that is not embarrassed to be a white Christian that doesn’t feel the need to “check their privilage”, and doesnt cower at being called a racist. They DO believe the white Christian west has a superior society, as evidenced by the masses trying to come here, and the proposal that America needs to be less white is wrong, and as ridiculous as deciding Kenya needs to be less black, or China needs to be less Asian. Yet that is exactly what has been decided for America, and the vehicle is the 1965 immigration act, designed to do just that.
Multiculturalism has not made a stronger, better nation, it has brought us to where we are; on the brink of civil war. Diversity+proximity=war. A nation divided against itself cannot stand.
The truth is, we either stand up for western civilization, as white Christians gave us, or we follow Europe in allowing in millions of Muslims, and finding yourself following sharia blasphemy laws and your granddaughters wearing burkas or being raped.
As for the kook fringe actual racists, the rest of the alt-right see no enemies to the right, just as the left eyes no enemies to the left. It’s a reality that the left only thought police those to the right, and conservatives only effectively thought police the right, so the only people living under the oppression of PC are those on the right, or expressing anything not sufficiently to the left.
The alt-right ain’t playing that game. Just because there are racist people that identify as AR doesn’t mean being AR means you are a racist.
Voxday has put together a 16 point list of what the AR is here: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html
Discuss!
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:45 pmWell urbanleftbehind, I’m constantly walking a tightrope over the “racist” abyss. I was under the impression alt-right were seething racists but then a leftist at my Club called my buddy and me alt right. He said alt right are white supremacists. I said no, white supremacists are white supremacists they already have a name they don’t need alt right.
My entire family is a mish-mosh of races and religions and I myself was married to a Jewish girl and am currently married to an immigrant naturalized American from South Korea. I frankly don’t care what or who you are if you’re a good person and would benefit our country. But I do believe that moslems owe their entire allegiance to allah and mohammad and I’ve read so in their books and in their lessons by their imams from their own lips. For twenty years I’ve read and studied them. It strikes fear in them and that becomes hatred when they realize I don’t buy their “religion of peace” sh!t. They get mean, mad and like all people caught in a lie they begin the name calling and the personal attacks. Another guy here who knows his moslem stuff is Steve57.
I believe it is our legacy to make America a better country and we can’t do that by bringing in people who are not better people. We can’t do that when we’re bringing in people who not only don’t share our culture but who refuse to share it and refuse to acclimate. And who in fact want to destroy our culture and replace it with that of mohammad.
We also have an obligation to those Americans here. We can’t bring in foreigners to take jobs at the bottom rung that are needed by Americans seeking first time employment, Americans seeking low end employment because that’s all they can do, Americans seeking part time employment to help their income and older Americans seeking to augment Social Security. And we have no right telling those of us in the American middle class we have to pay more taxes to support foreigners who come here and don’t get work, their health care, the policing of them and their education. Middle class Americans should be using that money on their own families not families here from the middle east or Mexico whether legal or illegal. It’s bad enough the left has set up a patronage system for our fellow Americans why should we support foreigners?
We have taken in over 40 million Mexicans alone since 1965. That’s not immigration, it’s invasion. What other country would allow 40 million foreigners to enter? And it doesn’t really matter that they’re Mexican. They could be English or Swedes, we don’t need 40 million of anybody until our own people are working.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 1:52 pmObviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.
May Bill Kristol DIAF. He’s proved he’s a full blown leftist.
NJRob (43d957) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:10 pmhe tried to do harvardtrash CIA pansy slurpy egg mcmuffin all up in it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:16 pm“Diversity+proximity=war.”
– Leon
That is painfully stupid. How many examples of real-world, diverse, non-warring communities would it take to disabuse you of this silly notion?
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:17 pmgin + vermouth = martini
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:19 pmThere you go.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:20 pmI think Leon was going more along the lines of
House cat + Mouse = dead mouse
elissa (417bf9) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:23 pmRe: 185; a conservative statist is still a statist (that is, a leftist).
Steven Malynn (d29fc3) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:30 pm@ 187- If by diverse you mean an American of (say) Chinese descent living next to a (say) American of Polish descent, both that have agreed to live under the American compact, then you are correct.
Otherwise, not so much. Of course there doesn’t have to be war I guess, there’s always surrender. http://pamelageller.com/2014/11/caliphate-in-europe-sweden-cedes-control-of-muslim-areas.html/
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:53 pmSo you intend to define “diversity” in your own way, then? To go about begging the question in a pithy way that you hope appears insightful the 19 year olds that everyone seems to admit constitute the alt-right?
diversity
noun, plural diversities.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:59 pm1.
the state or fact of being diverse; difference; unlikeness:
diversity of opinion.
2.
variety; multiformity.
3.
the inclusion of individuals representing more than one national origin, color, religion, socioeconomic stratum, sexual orientation, etc.:
diversity in the workplace.
4.
a point of difference.
Considering that Vox Day lives in Finland, he’s not even worth taking the time to tell him to go sniff reindeer droppings when he tells us what people we should have for neighbors.
nk (dbc370) — 2/14/2017 @ 2:59 pm@164- Pelosi apparetly didnt’ get the word o deliberatly ‘mislead the American people by using that ‘scapegoat’ quote as part of her live, donkey and carrot TV presser carried on the cablers this morning– after CBS This Morning had gone off air in the East.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:02 pmRev Hoagie
I have a business opportunity for you but we need to bring Tony Campolo in as a pitch man:
TGI Friday’s is here
PBUH Sunday’s a comin’.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:03 pmSo you think assimilation totally unnecessary to a peacefully nation? Well, that thesis is being tested, we’ll see how it turns out. Seems the nation is becoming less peaceful by the day though.
nk, I believe voxday is an American Indian expat living in Italy. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:06 pmRev Hoagie
There is a good local guy here you may of heard of named Dr Bill Warner.
Last I checked he would appear for an hour every Friday on Michael DelGiorno’s radio show to discuss Islam. It’s available on iTunes.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:08 pmLeon:
For the alt-right, what’s the critical homogeneity necessary to avoid the “wars” caused by “diversity + proximity”?
Is it race? We have innumerable examples of people of different races living in close proximity without “war.” Is it national origin? We have innumerable examples of people of different national origins living in close proximity without “war.” Is it political ideology? We have innumerable examples of people of different political ideologies living in close proximity without “war.” Is it religion? We have innumerable examples of people of different religions living in close proximity without “war.” Is it cultural tradition? We have innumerable examples of people of different cultural traditions living in close proximity without “war.” Is it cultural values? We have innumerable examples of people of different cultural values living in close proximity without “war.”
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:11 pmVox Day is a melange of several things.
urbanleftbehind (43d063) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:27 pmthere is no such thing as vox day
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:27 pmKishnevi
It’s more that they think the dumb kaffir hasn’t heard of Samarkand etc.
One thing I know above all, other than the general location of Uzbekistan, is that every one of them that I ever met is a terrible and aggressive driver.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:29 pmWell brave Bawer also lives in one of the Scandinavian paradises. Where the skit work is performed according to lapidus, by Russian Serbs and Arabs in that order.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:36 pmpelosi’s didn’t get flagged when bashir was allowing the like of Abe saber to sanctuary to attack coalition forces, hayt Al tahrir is yet another varsity expansion team, like jaish Al shugour was previosly
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:44 pmbeyonce is not a singer
don’t get it twisted
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 3:50 pmA man may gesture and gesture and not be a racist.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:02 pmhttp://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2017/02/jihadists-and-other-rebels-assault-syrian-regime-positions-in-southern-city.php
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:13 pmA man may gesture and gesture and not be a racist.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:14 pmNarciso
I’m sure you meant scut work but nothing would make me laugh harder than the cast of SNL being replaced by Russians and Arabs.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:18 pmOtay!
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:19 pm@182 Daryl Herbert
Heard of it. Have yet to watch it. Will check it out, thanks.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:24 pmAnd this is seven of nine.[jpg]
We only need two more for the complete set.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:25 pm@199- Leviticus, there are also innumerable examples of all those circumstances resulting in war. Not so much among a common people.
What do you think causes war other than diversity? What prevents war among diverse people other than finding commonality past their diversity?
A white guy may have a black neighbor that’s his best friend, think he’s a champion of diversity. Let him walk around Chicago’s east side with a “all lives matter” sign though, he’ll still be beaten into the dirt. See, the ones doing the beating haven’t gotten past their diversity.
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:28 pmYes she was on an obscure x files retro series called dark skies, where she played a Russian spy! Before she hit it big on voyager, met jackmryan had a turbulent divorce, yadda yadda president obama.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:29 pmBut does she know Pepe?
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:35 pm@183 Leon
The Trooper
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:36 pm89-patt.
“Are you also going to deny that they were doing the OK symbol as a Pepe reference? That’s the very transparent game they’re playing, but only a willing fool buys it.”
I do not deny they like Pepe and OK, I just do not see enough proof that that makes them Nazis. You also recently said I was not worthy of the Living Room because I used the word “gullible”, yet you are happy to throw “willing fool” around.
“Here is a post of his quoting Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor favorably as they whined about having their Press Club event shut down.”
I would not call it “whining” to be pointing out that the National Press Club denied an alt-right group the right to speak after allowing Death to America aficionado and holocaust denier Ahmandinejad to rant.
harkin (313db7) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:41 pmjeri ryan drives a very nice car
power steering the whole works
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:43 pmThe caliber of a Carlos slim reporter, short barrel
http//www.thewrap.com/new-york-times-reporter-apologizes-melania-trump-hooker
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:48 pmLeon
My point isn’t, “On this battlefield no one wins.”
It’s why are we bringing the battlefield over here? We aren’t just being invaded, we are flying the invaders in on our own dime?
Why are western leaders invading their own countries, as Michael Savage asked.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:51 pmwhen MSNBC propaganda slut David Shuster called stinkypig’s daughter Chelsea a hooker he got suspended
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:53 pmShe used to be a member of the collective. Jeri Ryno.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:54 pmBtw Oroville evacuation has been rescinded.
I survived the spillway.
Not that anyone cares.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:56 pmPaducah KY, then a stint at NU? I would have pegged the former Miss Zimmerman for Downers Grove or Nap-ar-ville, Ellinois.
Russians prefer the chess-players of the Islamic world, namely the lighter skinned Shia, not the Connect Four-playing Sunnis. That iteration of SNL would not last past November sweeps and make the Charles Rocket/early Piscopo interlude look great by comparison.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:58 pmit says you still under flash flood watch
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:59 pmT-shirt, selfie in a dry basement or it didnt happen.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/14/2017 @ 4:59 pmI am going to get the t-shirt though.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:00 pmI forgot, no basements in CA. Certain things would be that much worse.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:00 pmIt might not have been reported widely yet.
I think the networks want to squeeze another news cycle out of the thing
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:02 pmhttp://kfbk.iheart.com/articles/national-news-104668/evacuation-orders-over-possible-dam-failure-15562857/
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:05 pmEvacuation Orders Over Possible Dam Failure Lifted
Individual Muslims may or may not be a problem, like any supremacists I suppose.
But Islam is like an American Hair Dryer in London: sure, it might not kill you. It’s damn sure dangerous and incompatible.
Pinandpuller (d1b0ac) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:10 pmBetter than a t-shirt?
Always trust content from the tiger.
Well…
Sometimes 😉
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:12 pmThe doumanuan Michael o’donoghue interval was the mariannas trench brforr they came for air with akroyd and Murphy. They had one Samsung segment with mort sahl
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:13 pmIt really doesn’t matter how many diverse non-warring communities you name the fact still remains Diversity+Proximity=War. It does not mean they are at war 100% of the time. If warring people are homogeneous and not diverse its got a special name: Civil War. In the modern world “proximity” is relative to the weapons.
BTW, all your wonderful diverse, non warring communities are wonderful right up until they go to war. Which they will. Sooner or later. And that is a guarantee.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:20 pmSo what? It’s easily conceivable that most of these pics are made by opponents of the “alt-right”. What evidence is there that any of these were made by anyone identifying themselves as “alt-right”? I’m not saying there aren’t any. I just don’t see them.
Darren M. (a4eb00) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:28 pm#19
Darren M. (a4eb00) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:30 pmI had no idea Disney was such a cesspool of Fascism.
“Why are western leaders invading their own countries, as Michael Savage asked.”
Pinandpuller, it’s my belief that they are globalists, with an agenda of ruling the world. Whether they are naive and thinking they can civilized the savages by bringing them to civilized parts of the world, or cynics that want to create the conditions to justify international martial law is hard to know.
I lean to the former, that they think themselves so awesome the barbarians will just have to bow down to their grand schemes. And by barbarians, I believe they include you and I in the category.
If I’m right, they must be quite disconcerted by the rising tides of nationalism. If I’m wrong, and it’s the latter case, they are probably rubbing their hands together in glee, God help us.
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 5:35 pmthis is semi-interesting if you just click the picture and go through the gallery
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:06 pm@212 papertiger
You can’t flim flam the Zim Zam.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:10 pmIf you don’t like Vox Day you will hate Lame Cherry (LOL).
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:12 pm#235
Darren M. (a4eb00) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:20 pmI think I found a couple. However, I’d still be willing be bet most of those images are from left-of-center drawers in an attempt to discredit the cartoon character. Personally, I’ve never been too fond of the idea that any group of kooks gets perpetual title to a meme/symbol/label/etc. just because they adopt it.
Leon
I know most people probably think Alex Jones a nutbag, but he said something on Joe Rogan’s podcast that I liked. “America is being colonized by global corporatists.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:20 pmSavage gets very little props these days even though he and Ari Emanuel are the godfather s are the Trump movement.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:21 pmRev Hoagie
It’s better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:21 pmMarcellas Wallace would like to talk to you about how there are no basements in California.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/14/2017 @ 6:35 pm“BTW, all your wonderful diverse, non warring communities are wonderful right up until they go to war. Which they will. Sooner or later. And that is a guarantee.”
– Rev. Hoagie
[Anything] + [Anything] + [An Infinite Amount of Time] = [Anything]
And parading that sort of truistic pap as analysis or insight is a sure fire sign of extreme intellectual laziness.
Leviticus (c2dcf8) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:03 pmGermany and the UK were interwined economically as niall ferguson points out in the pity of war, their ruling classes were even joined together.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:12 pmThing is Leviticus, it isn’t [anything] + [anything], it’s enforced multiculturalism with the agenda of destabilizing the nation. And it’s working. You can turn a blind eye and pretend it it’s all good, but still the country is unraveling before our eyes.
Do you think open borders and fewer white people is a good thing for America? Perhaps you believe America is the land of the free because of the magic dirt?
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:22 pmI do wonder what is next. Will there be a post that mistakes The Tennessee state flag as a Stormfront neo-nazi banner? The great thing about the Internet is we can make anything into anything, and then screech about it for days on end. Oh, the humanity!
BTW, when did Charles Johnson start ghost writing under Patterico’s byline?
Estarcarus (cd97e1) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:28 pmBoft is Saturday unlike the official press, the ones who flubbed most every manor stories, when his sourve is good id solid; it pans out sometimes it doesnt
narciso (7c7468) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:44 pmLike this piece:
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170211-saudi-arabia-deports-almost-40000-pakistanis-in-just-4-months/
narciso (7c7468) — 2/14/2017 @ 7:53 pmThe DiploMad on “diversity”: http://www.thediplomad.com/2017/02/diversity-is-our-strength.html
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:33 pmAnd just for fun, here’s another about our friendly neighborhood Mexican: http://www.thediplomad.com/2017/02/the-new-mexican-war.html
Leon (1bee31) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:36 pmGateway Pundit White House correspondent Lucian Wintrich’s speech planned for Thursday at NYU has been “postponed” due to threats of violence. But it is really Hoft and some image of a frog we should loathe and fear.
Alt-Right bashing, when mainstream Leftist fascists are on the march, is tough to fathom on both an intellectual and emotional level.
Here’s a hint: the bad guys are the ones resorting to violence.
ThOR (c9324e) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:44 pmA counterintuitive angle
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/14/is-the-kremlin-afraid-of-trump/
narciso (7c7468) — 2/14/2017 @ 8:49 pm@ 237
I lean to the former, that they think themselves so awesome the barbarians will just have to bow down to their grand schemes. And by barbarians, I believe they include you and I in the category.
Saudi Arabia’s thousand princelings wandering around unmurdered is strong evidence indicating the globalists are right.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/14/2017 @ 9:38 pm