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1/9/2017

Trump Praised The “Overrated” Meryl Streep In 2015

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:00 pm

Well of course he did.

Donald Trump, in an interview with the Hollywood Reporter, published August 19, 2015:

Any actress you love?

Julia Roberts is terrific, and many others. Meryl Streep is excellent; she’s a fine person, too. The problem is I’ll name three or four or five and then the hundred that I know will be insulted, and I don’t mean to insult them.

Of course, this morning, Streep was overrated, etc. etc. etc.

He’s a child. You praise him and he loves you no matter how evil you are. Insult him and he’ll call you stupid even if yesterday he said you were smart. Ugly even if yesterday he said you were gorgeous. Unpopular even if yesterday he said the crowds love you.

A child.

I sure hope no foreign leader (like say, the truly evil Vladimir Putin) is able to see through Trump this easily.

Oh wait . . .

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

88 Responses to “Trump Praised The “Overrated” Meryl Streep In 2015”

  1. Its pantomime, kovaleski was willing to tell the truth 15 years, now its inoperative, but with even more sordid details of the nuclear deal, the close call in the straits, the dual tragedy down here in central florida

    narciso (d1f714)

  2. So that’s what Rush means by living rent free in their heads. Lots of square footage.

    Pinandpuller (858a22)

  3. These are getting tiresome and bordering on pathetic.

    Did you read the Hollywood Reporter article — the whole thing?

    By my count there were 40 different topics in the interview if you include just what was printed in the article. No way to know if there were others that were edited out for space or other reasons.

    On some of his answers it was almost “free association” time — very superficial, make a comment or two, move on to the next topic.

    The question of actors/actresses came up as part of “Hillary is relying on support from Hollywood”, and whether he felt his businesses were suffering from Hollywood boycotts. Then, almost as an aside, he’s asked “Whose your favorite actor/actress”. He spits out a few names, and then the next subject is Bill Cosby.

    And from that you take that he made a meaningful and thought-out comment on whether or not Meryl Streep is a good actress.

    And I can’t get back the 10 minutes in my life that I have spent responding to this inanity.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  4. And from that you take that he made a meaningful and thought-out comment on whether or not Meryl Streep is a good actress.

    I never said Donald Trump said anything meaningful or thought-out.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  5. Well then the entire basis for your post is gone.

    Beyond your agenda.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  6. You think the basis of my post is that Donald Trump says meaningful and thought-out things?

    Patterico (9e7773)

  7. Take a minute to appreciate the genius of narciso.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  8. Pat = did you have a copy of the hollywood reporter sitting n the john? Specifically that copy?

    I’m asking about the sausage making process.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  9. In order to win the culture war first thing you have to do is show up.

    We don’t have to wonder if Trump will be in game.

    As far as nerve I can’t think of a better test than a stare down with Meryl Streep, especially when she is in the wrong.
    Kovaleski is a coward hunkering down behind his disability while unarmed soldiers at Fort Hood, office workers in Bakersfield, and revelers enjoying the weekend in Orlando, are sacrificed to satisfy Meryl Streep’s insane sense of decorum.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  10. You set up your conclusion as “Praise him and he says you’re wonderful; insult him and he rips you.”

    The premise is that each comment is contemplated, yet he’s unable to maintain any consistency and is simply guided by his emotions of the moment – which you characterize as being childish.

    But if the first comment wasn’t contemplated for more than a second or two, its really picking nits to find fault in a later comment that is contradictory.

    But I guess that’s gonna be the game here for the foreseeable future — no nits are to meaningless to not pick.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  11. liberal elitists are phonies. example chris hays said on his show on msdnc that he prefers uber to taxis as does liberal talk show host tom hartmann. who drives uber mostly middle class whites. who drives taxis immigrants ex con and people to poor to own a newer car that uber demands or any car at all.

    travis bickel (33ae98)

  12. I like the economy of the exchange. Hollywood spent a butload to put on their shindig to give Meryl a platform. Long term planning and coordination between the Hollywood Reporter interview (I imagine if Trump had said his favorite actress were Alison Hannigan they would have shipped Alison in from whereever to give the same speech Streeep did, after tossing her an apology and a plum movie part).

    That’s some pricy production. They can afford it twice, maybe three times a year.

    Trump parries it for free. Cost maybe a half minute of his time.

    In the obverse, if Meryl Streep were to tweet her venom at Trump who would notice outside of Twitchy

    papertiger (c8116c)

  13. Streep’s speech clearly was coordinated with the producers.

    This was an award she was told about far in advance, so she had plenty of time to assemble the speech. She was reading it from a teleprompter, so she gave it to the production ahead of time.

    As she called out the names of various actors born abroad, the camera shot went directly to them. So the director of the broadcast had all the camera coverages and changes planned ahead of time.

    So, you’re right that what Hollywood took a good deal of time and energy to assemble, Trump swatted back at with less than 140 characters.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  14. Donald Trump always attacks people who attacked him, and when he does so, it’s not on honest grounds.

    He likes to say people are not successes. I don’t know what he thinks that signifies. He says that, as a means of retaliation, even when he doesn’t think it is true as far as we know, or doesn’t care. He also called the New York Times a failing newspaper, where you can hardly say it worse than other papers, and it’s not. No comment on the Daily News (maybe he doesn’t read it) or the New York Post.

    He even does his claim of non-sucess in other cases. He liked being number one, so he pointed our Arnold Schwarzenegger getting less ratings that he did on the same show. Or did Arnold Schwarzenegger say something about him during the campaign?

    http://www.eonline.com/news/671706/arnold-schwarzenegger-reacts-to-donald-trump-s-run-for-president-some-candidates-will-make-a-lot-of-noise

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  15. I suppose that when people insult Trump, he should ignore them. But he’s one of those who don’t ignore insults. So….
    His prolific use of superlatives causes him to say somebody is “terrific” as a tic. Not to be taken as a statement of fact or even opinion.
    We all know people like that. Now we have one for president.
    The alternative was Hillary.

    Richard Aubrey (472a6f)

  16. Eff me to tears, what next!?!?!?

    You’d better be charging him rent, Patterico.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. He’s Trump he’s Trump he’s Trump
    He’s in his head

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. I agree, it’s pretty unfortunate when people can’t resist taking the bait. That’s been the theme of 2016 and I’m sorry to see it continue into 2017.

    When the inauguration is over and Trump starts generating some actual news I hope we all get into a different mode.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  19. it’s just like how sleazy harvardtrash ted was all

    “serial philanderer” and “pathological liar”

    “utterly amoral” and “sniveling coward”

    then he was all

    “After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.”

    “A year ago, I pledged to endorse the Republican nominee, and I am honoring that commitment. And if you don’t want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, I encourage you to vote for him.”

    and then meryl streep was all DON’T EAT THAT APPLE YOU’LL DIE

    she’s so awkward

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  20. Occupational disease of double agents. What they actually believe and what they need to pretend to believe become commingled.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. I mean Donald Fredovich, not Rafael Eduardo.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. But… but… teh dingo ate ‘er byebee!

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  23. @nk:I mean Donald Fredovich

    Thanks Tailgunner, we figured that out.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  24. Anyway, there’s duelling editorials in NRO on economic productivity and what Trump ought to prioritize.

    Not to say that what Trump said about Streep a year before she criticized him on national TV and whether that is surely the inconsistency that will catch him THIS time is not important.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  25. Not that I don’t consider “over-rated actress” to be a tautology. I share the Muslim pre-20th century view that actresses are no better than prostitutes. It should be beneath the dignity of the Commander in Chief to mix it up with Hollywood floozies, but Trump and dignity do not belong in the same sentence.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. @nk: BTW, a “double agent” is someone who is an intelligence asset to both sides. I think you’re trying to say Trump is a single agent, Tailgunner, and not that he works for the CIA now.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  27. Nope. A double agent is one who pretends to work for the CIA while working for the KGB. Like Aldrich Ames. Whom you’re describing might be a “triple agent”, but according to John LeCarre that would mean that the CIA found out about it and doubled him yet again, so to the KGB he is a CIA agent working for the KGB, while to the CIA he is a CIA agent pretending to work for the KGB while actually working for the CIA and feeding false information to, or spying on, the KGB.

    No wonder they get confused.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. @nk: I think it is more accurate to say that the CIA is pretending to work for the American people, when it is really working for itself at this point.

    But if you want to claim that Trump is pretending to be an asset to the CIA and that the CIA is fooled by him, well, that’s no more of a smear than your other McCarthyite claims.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  29. Back to economics, that discredited Trumpkin Kevin Williamson, whose columns I try never to miss, has commentary on both the editorials I linked to as well as Krugman’s whiplash on deficits, which 78 days ago he recommended should be run for many years, when it was obvious to all that Hillary was about to win and Donald should just pack it in because the emails and the Wikileaks were having no effect on the race.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  30. What else makes it confusing, is that in order for the double agent to maintain his credibility with his ostensible employer, he has to provide them with the occasional real intelligence, but that’s just to maintain his cover, and it does not affect his status as a double agent.

    nk (dbc370)

  31. @nk: Keep it up Tailgunner, you’ll catch that Commie roadrunner yet. Maybe there’s some Putin lovers in the Army? Do you hold a list here in your hand?

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  32. I was being illustrative. For all I know, Trump was recruited by the Czechoslovakian StB (Státní bezpečnost).

    nk (dbc370)

  33. @nk: Czechoslovakian StB (Státní bezpečnost).

    Then he’s back to a single agent, because neither the StB or the nation-state it was under currently exist. There’s been some changes since 1990.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  34. Maybe there’s some Putin lovers in the Army? Do you hold a list here in your hand?

    General Flynn?

    nk (dbc370)

  35. You haven’t read his book have you?

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. @narcisco: You haven’t read his book have you?

    I think he leafed through it before the book-burning.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  37. @nk: You get pretty indignant when anyone calls out the CIA for anything shady, but you shure don’t mind smearing a general.

    But hey, in the service of outing commies, extremism is no vice, as a Planned Parenthood supporter once said.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  38. @nk: Funny the video at your link says “Error: no valid source”. Got to the bottom and found this:

    Douglas E. Schoen has served as a pollster for President Bill Clinton

    Oh, well, if a pollster for Bill Clinton calls a general a Putin-lover, that’s good enough for any red-blooded patriot!

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  39. Schoen was also on the board of that pro erdogan group if memory sves

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. The article shows up just fine when I click it. Not everything is a video; some things are still written.

    As for Flynn, are those things said about him and Putin untrue? Is Rex Tillerson’s Russian Order of Friendship a figment of some reporter’s imagination?

    nk (dbc370)

  41. Anymore than Nixon might have spoken of the colonels positively

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. @nk:are those things said about him and Putin untrue? Is Rex Tillerson’s Russian Order of Friendship a figment of some reporter’s imagination?

    They can be true, and not the whole story. Aren’t you a lawyer, and don’t you understand that the facts you leave out are as important as the ones left in?

    I find it interesting that you think Putin should be able to veto Cabinet appointments by giving awards though.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  43. @nk: And that’s why narcisco asked you if you’d read Flynn’s book. And of course you have not, because I’m sure if you had, you wouldn’t lie about a general and call him a Putin-lover when you have evidence to the contrary.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  44. The contents of Flynn’s book can be true, and not the whole story.

    Now no one knows anything! Drat.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  45. Like schrodinger’s cat, meanwhile tourette’s syndrome pipes up?

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. @25 nk

    Maybe Melania should be mixing it up with Ms Streep then, a la Messalina.

    Pinandpuller (c0ca62)

  47. @Leviticus:The contents of Flynn’s book can be true, and not the whole story.

    I was wondering when the curiously selective self-appointed tone police would arrive.

    Yes, of course that is true. And in that book, he is critical of Putin’s Russia. Kindly remember that the accusation from Tailgunner nk is that General Flynn is a “Putin-lover”. That’s a pretty extreme label that ought to be well-supported by evidence, should it not?

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  48. @Leviticus: Because such a serious charge is quite irresponsible, without quite a lot of evidence.

    Isn’t it?

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  49. i just don’t have a lot to say about meryl streep and her hairy armpits today

    the sessions thing is kinda more interesting cause of it’s another lens on how elite coastal harvardtrash view the south and southerners

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. Lets nit speak of her murdering a southern accent in rendition

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. I find it interesting that you think Putin should be able to veto Cabinet appointments by giving awards though.

    Disingenuous, it’s not the giving (although it is evidence of some kind), it’s the accepting by the givee that’s dispositive.

    And why on Earth would I want to read Flynn’s book? Do you know how many millions of books are out there that I will never have time to read?

    nk (dbc370)

  52. I will bet you a dollar to a donut that Trump has not read Flynn’s book.

    nk (dbc370)

  53. @nk:And why on Earth would I want to read Flynn’s book?

    So that you would not accuse a general of treason without knowing all the facts.

    But you don’t have to read the book to avoid doing that, Tailgunner. You just would have stop making irresponsible allegations that you can’t support with evidence.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  54. Liar! Nowhere did I accuse Flynn of treason. Liar, liar, liar, you lie!

    nk (dbc370)

  55. @nk:Liar! Nowhere did I accuse Flynn of treason. Liar, liar, liar, you lie!

    Ok, let me retract and rephrase: Putin-love is what you accused him of. On no evidence.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  56. Actually, you’ve lied in every comment you made about General Flynn and my view of him. All I did was link a Fox News article about Flynn. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

    nk (dbc370)

  57. (Streep’s) disrespect invites (Trumps’s) disrespect

    Neo (d1c681)

  58. You even put it “Putin-lover” in quotes to fool people into thinking you were quoting me. Lying liar. Retract and apologize to the readers of this thread.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. @nk: When I asked you for a list of Putin-lovers in the Army, you suggested Flynn, and then you doubled down.

    And everyone reading this thread can see it.

    You dug this hole, Tailgunner. You can’t dig out.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  60. You two had better stop it right now, or you’re going to hear about it when your father gets home!

    elissa (57fdec)

  61. I’m yanking your chain and getting back at you for your past attacks on Leviticus and Kishnevi. I don’t really care and, in point of fact, have been yanking your chain all along.

    nk (dbc370)

  62. I have long gotten used to the idea that you are not a person to argue seriously and honestly.

    nk (dbc370)

  63. @nk:t, have been yanking your chain all along.

    Ok, Tailgunner Troll.

    your past attacks on Leviticus and Kishnevi.

    Kishnevi agreed he was wrong and I thanked him for his integrity. Leviticus is not, apparently, willing to double down, so he has that going for him, which is nice.

    I have long gotten used to the idea that you are not a person to argue seriously and honestly.

    That you think doing so was worth smearing a general over says more about you than about me.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  64. “Leviticus is not, apparently, willing to double down, so he has that going for him, which is nice.”

    – Gabriel Hanna

    Double down on what? I share nk’s opinion of you.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  65. You are one disingenuous little nudnik, and that’s a fact.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. That was for Gabriel.

    nk (dbc370)

  67. “Kindly remember that the accusation from Tailgunner nk is that General Flynn is a “Putin-lover”. That’s a pretty extreme label that ought to be well-supported by evidence, should it not?”

    – Gabriel Hanna

    Evidence, like the fact that he’s about to take his marching orders (as a career military man) from a total Putin-lover?

    Leviticus (efada1)

  68. @Leviticus: Evidence, like the fact that he’s about to take his marching orders (as a career military man) from a total Putin-lover?

    Ok, curiously selective tone cop who is just asking for a little civility, everyone in the military is now a Putin-lover too. Got it. You managed out-McCarthy McCarthy there.

    @nk:That was for Gabriel.

    Yeah, Tailgunner Troll, I know. But Leviticus is on hole-digging detail now, he’ll take it from there.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  69. “Ok, curiously selective tone cop who is just asking for a little civility, everyone in the military is now a Putin-lover too. Got it. You managed out-McCarthy McCarthy there.”

    – Gabriel Hanna

    Well, I’m not gonna try to ruin their lives over it. I’m just going to be damned nervous about it, and disappointed in all the people (like you) who decide to ignore it.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  70. Gabriel asks: Maybe there’s some Putin lovers in the Army? Do you hold a list here in your hand?
    I ask with a link to a Fox News article (and a question mark too): General Flynn?

    Gabriel’s essential nature comes out.

    It’s been fun but gotten stale.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. @nk:Gabriel’s essential nature comes out.

    Nice try, but people can read the thread, and judge for themselves. You don’t get to control the narrative, and this isn’t a conversation where there’s only memories and impressions left.

    @Leviticus: who decide to ignore it.

    I do my best ignore serious and unsubstantiated allegations, yeah, and push back when I see them, and that will not change.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  72. Boys Boys Boys! Look at this. It will help. I promise. Really.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cb6e8784cada71ba40e00b67f1430c72dd3f11e4793c33acb48a0c1f47426fa9.jpg

    elissa (57fdec)

  73. @elissa: I saw that a few days ago and LOL’d.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  74. You don’t get to control the narrative, and this isn’t a conversation where there’s only memories and impressions left.

    Liar! That’s what you are always doing by lying about what people said.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. To be fair, OJ loved Nicole.

    Pinandpuller (c0ca62)

  76. 75.To be fair, OJ loved Nicole.

    There’s a lot of holes in that theory.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  77. It depends on the meaning of the word “love.” At any rate, he probaby didn’t at the end. But he was wistful before he killed her. Almost like he was pondering whether he should do it.

    But he was afraid she would go to the IRS, or had already, and the only way to kill the investigation was to kill her, or so Robert Kardashian probably told him.

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  78. 71. At what number does the thread (the part where you are arguing) begin?

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  79. Meryl is no Judi Dench or Maggie Smith.

    She is overrated.

    More bemusing to me was her tirade toward football- which is entertainment as well for millions of Americans and very much a part of Miss Streep’s life at one time.

    Streep was raised in Bernardsville, NJ. We lived for several years in Basking Ridge, NJ, literally the next town over. Ridge Red Devils and Bernards Bulldogs were arch rivals in football and on Thanksgivings, the two high schools traditionally battled it out and and my late father would take us to the annual games where, for a time, Meryl was one of the many nubile blondes bouncing along the sidelines for Bernardsville on the football cheerleading squad. Ol’ Doc Forbes, who still made house calls, was on the sidelines as well, and post game pizza was always consumed at Pistilli’s by the Dairy Queen and bowling alley on the north side of Bernardsville. This was a very late 1950s area in New Jersey the middle of 1960s that oozed colonial America along every road and horsepath.

    Bernardsville, home to famed GOP Congresswoman Millicent Fenwick as well BTW, Basking Ridge and Bedminister, where Jackie Kennedy kept horses and rode occasionally at the time, and where Mr. Trump now maintains a golf course, are all within a few miles of each other and most decidely not pockets of poverty– then or now. These are solid middle to upper middle class areas with budding suburbian homes peppered amongst large country estates. Estates where the only blacks in the area in themed-60s were employed as house servants at the big homes and none were in our schools.

    Meryl plays the sore loser well. She’s had practice, just like the Bulldog cheerleader she was when Ridge would kick their butts.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  80. @Sammy Finkelman: At what number does the thread (the part where you are arguing) begin?

    20. I include the link because different people see different numbers.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  81. On the New York times editorial page today:

    Trump, Trapped in His Lies, Keeps Lying. Sad!

    by Lawrence Downes

    It all goes back to Mr. Trump’s baseless claim that he saw Muslims dancing in the streets by the thousands after the towers fell on 9/11. Challenged over this, Mr. Trump seized on a 2001 article in The Washington Post, written by Mr. Kovaleski when he was a reporter there, that he said backed up his story. But the article did not do that. It merely reported that the authorities had questioned “a number of people” who were “allegedly seen” celebrating the attack. Nothing has ever come of that “allegedly” — there has never been any evidence to substantiate Mr. Trump’s claim, not then, not now. Mr. Kovaleski did not change his story — not “totally,” not at all. And he did not grovel.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  82. Tune in next week for the next episode of “Teh Katzenjammer Kids”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. Sam. Is that the final rewrite?

    Why aren’t you detailing the moving of goalpost from Trump is making fun of the gimp to this new position?

    You took a delight in promulgating minutia yesterday on that topic.

    Clean up your mess.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  84. There’s no reason to believe that Trump did not see thousands of Muslims dancing in the streets. Accompanied by a band of pink elephants playing “Bess, You Is My Woman Now” through their trunks.

    nk (dbc370)

  85. 83.

    Is that the final rewrite?

    You mean t#81 where I wuoted the headline of an article that said Trump was trapped in his lies? That seems to sum it up.

    Why aren’t you detailing the moving of goalpost from Trump is making fun of the gimp to this new position?

    Leonard Downes included that.

    The new position is that of Trump, who at the time was saying he had never met -> didn’t remember Kowalski.

    And now the position is that he made gestures like that with regard to other people, which might be true, but wasn’t brought up then.

    Leonard Downes still has the old position. He also writes:

    ….Witness his reaction to being called out on Sunday by Meryl Streep. Speaking at the Golden Globes, she said she had been stunned and heartbroken to see him mock a reporter with a physical disability.

    It happened at a speech in 2015 in South Carolina. Mr. Trump’s target was Serge Kovaleski, of The Times, who has arthrogryposis, a condition that leaves his right arm and hand bent and rigid. “You ought to see this guy,” Mr. Trump told his audience, flailing his own right arm and hand in the air, making spastic movements, disgracing himself. The act was contemptible, and in a way unbelievable: a future president showing the maturity and schoolyard viciousness of an 8-year-old.

    Trump now says, or his people say:

    Wait, wait, a second. Arthrogryposis leaves an arm and hand bent and rigid, not spastic so he couldn’t have been mocking him.

    But actually all that that means is that when Trump said “you ought to see this guy” and demonstrated something, he was not hewing very close to the truth. And that’s what mocking is.)

    Leonard Downes’ bigger point is that this all goes back to Trump’s claim that he saw Muslims dancing in the streets in New Jersey by the thousands after the Twin Towers fell on 9/11. He wouldn’t back down.

    And what Leonard Downes says is what’s going on here is:

    Trump, Trapped in His Lies, Keeps Lying. Sad!

    Maybe people should take pity on him and leave him alone. No need to twist in the knife.

    He’s got a problem with the Russian hacking too.

    Sammy Finkelman (bd89d5)

  86. Just as well. Obama’s final insult is just about to begin (preempting a TBBT rerun I would have preferred to watch. Damn his “I’s”.)

    papertiger (c8116c)

  87. The was a pre-election post I made to this site. Shortly after I stopped reading the site altogether. But now that it’s post-election time I decided to come back to see if any attitudes had changed. Unfortunately, O Pontiff is still as delusional as ever with his omniscience:

    The Pontiff has declared, in so, so many words that Mr. Trump is a fraud, a Shriveling Coward, and a danger to the rest of us. And many commenters here agree. Why, he’s the worst thing that could ever happen to our country, our constitutional foundation, our heritage, and going forward we will be in the worst of hands should we elect The Donald! The highlights here that constantly snipe at everything that Mr. Trump says or is reported to be saying are targeting the man, his ideas, and the Pontiff’s projections about how miserable we will be in the future, if he becomes president.

    So I will attempt to explain why there are so many of us who will vote for Mr. Trump, regardless of his non-conservative, non-constitutional stance. It is not because we are fools or ignorant. Of course this is your chance to bail on an opinion that differs.

    First we looked at the current conservatives. The movement that is called conservatism, while great at spouting off about the principles articulated in the Declaration of Independence, and the so-called Law of the Land—the Constitution—have done practically and effectively nothing to defend these ideals. As practiced under the Obama administration the Constitution is only used as needed to destroy those principles.

    The electorate elevated people, who promised to uphold those principles, to their high offices, and what the hell has happened in the past 50-100 years? Forget the economy for a minute. It is too bad to even discuss. And forget the endless wars taking place through out the world. The main problem is that we, the persons who have supported our government are worse off, freedom-wise, than we have ever been. The central government is dictating our every movement and transaction.

    So, I ask all you pure, idealistic, principled conservatives, where were you when all of this was happening? What are you doing now? Going along with Obama? Going along with amnesty for millions who traipsed over our border without any interdiction? Willing to ignore the blatant illegality of Mrs. Clinton? The list just keeps on growing.

    And then we look at the current state of the legal profession—it’s practitioners as attorneys; it’s executors as judges. Then we look at things as simple as referendums that are in opposition to the judgements and decisions passed down to us. The will of many us, passed in elections, has been negated and overturned.

    We look at the current state of the culture—the rampage of criminal gangs who are not arrested or prosecuted to even an iota of the justice they deserve. How about the constant denigration of a morality that has served this and other societies for hundreds of years? The complete lack of representatives of the people who are willing to push back against this onslaught; that is allowing ridiculous and repugnant theories of civil society to take the place of common sense.

    And I’m talking about the common sense of the people who did not want this crap foisted upon them. Another example is the borderless country we are faced with, which is the current situation. And another that makes it illegal to ask for an ID which might prove that a voter is a citizen. What the hell is going on?

    In case you did not realize it, this is not what the United States of America was founded to promote, but it is Hillary Clinton’s and her party’s objective to continue.

    Mr. Trump represents to many millions of people, all flawed racists of course, that we don’t agree with the Democrat party’s stance on, or anyone who supports this status quo, just about anything.

    Those legal beagles who hang out here will perhaps respond and tell us how flawed our reasoning is. And perhaps some one of you might reconsider your abject hatred for Mr. Trump who is, right now, the last best hope to stop this destruction. If not, then don’t count on the chance to do it 4-8 years from now.

    And finally, if you’re counting on the Article V state conventions to bail us out, then you are really a Dreamer.

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  88. @87:

    Lou Costello: Hey, Abbott, what makes a balloon go up?

    Bud Abbott: Hot air.

    Lou Costello: What’s holding you down?

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