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Apparently Not All Bullies And Their Victims Are Equal In Meryl Streep’s Eyes

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:22 pm

[guest post by Dana]

Meryl Streep’s unloading on Donald Trump was pretty rich, on a number of levels. Was anyone surprised by her rant? If you were, then you haven’t been paying attention and shame on you. What else would you expect during a self-congratulatory show where a liberal icon has a captive audience full of fellow believers still collectively trying to figure out how the gods turned against them. Don’t they know who we are?!! To me, Streep’s tired tirade was about as surprising as Trump’s complete inability to resist taking the bait and keep his yap shut. Both utterly predictable. Both absurd.

I don’t really want to take too much time examining the stunningly insular arrogance of a multi-millionaire, but hey, she got on the soapbox, so just for kicks, let’s look at a few of her comments. Be careful not to step in the puddle of dripping condescension:

So Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners, and if we kick them all out, you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.

Oh boy, those Tinsel Town Saviors are ready to save you from suffering through a pedestrian sport where 70% of the players are black, and another one that has been described as the “most racially and internationally diverse sporting organization in the world.” Instead, Streep believes you prefer a steady diet from Tinsel Town’s visual buffet of glorified gun violence or objectification of women. You choose. It’s a rich irony, don’t you think, that a wealthy, lily-white Patrician beauty seems wholly oblivious to her condescending dismissal of a segment of the population who have, in large part, found their way out of generational poverty and gone on to great success through these chosen sports? Oh well, high-brow, low-brow…

Also, Streep would like you to know your place. And it isn’t all that great of a place either:

This brings me to the press. We need the principal press to hold power to account to call them on the carpet for every outrage.

That’s why our founders enshrined the press and its freedom in our Constitution. So I only ask the famously well-heeled Hollywood Foreign Press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the Committee to Protect Journalists because we are going to need them going forward and they’ll need us to safeguard the truth.

Streep’s classism makes yet another appearance, reminding the non-elites that it is only the uber-wealthy of Hollywood fit to protect the truth. In the hands of a less sophisticated group, truth, such as it is, would apparently be lost.

But the one performance this year that stunned me and sank its hooks into my heart was this egregious display of moral smugness:

But there was one performance this year that stunned me. It sank its hooks in my heart. Not because it was good; there was nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh, and show their teeth. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege, power and the capacity to fight back. It kind of broke my heart when I saw it, and I still can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kinda gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect, violence incites violence. And when the powerful use their position to bully others we all lose.

Yes, Trump’s behavior was reprehensible, rude and vulgar. But in this instance, it is Streep who is “teaching” the unwashed masses, and if she is going to talk about the powerful riding roughshod over the vulnerable, then do it with some honesty. I think it’s of utter importance that when anyone attempts to enlighten and impose their moral determinations upon us, they be fully conscious of the log in their own hypocritical eye. Because, in the interest of safeguarding the truth, if a wealthy and powerful individual like Streep lectures the masses about the weak being bullied, yet gives a standing ovation of congratulations to another wealthy and powerful individual who just also happens to be a child rapist, then that truth should be made known:

(At the 1:11 mark)

And just so we’re very, very clear about the truth Meryl Streep wants to safeguard, this is the very graphic and horrific grand jury testimony from Roman Polanski’s 13-year old rape victim:

A. Then he lifted up my legs and went in through my anus.

Q. What do you mean by that?

A. He put his penis in my butt.

. . . .

Q. Do you know whether he had a climax?

A. Yes.

Q. And how do you know that?

A. Because I could kind of feel it and it was in my underwear. It was in my underwear. It was on my butt and stuff.

Q. When you say that, you believe that he climaxed in your anus?

A. Yes.

Q. What does climax mean?

A. That his semen came out.

Q. Do you know what semen is?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you see some semen or feel some semen?

A. I felt it.

Q. Where did you feel it?

A. I felt it on the back of my behind and in my underwear when I put them on.

Safeguarding the truth. A noble calling.


66 Responses to “Apparently Not All Bullies And Their Victims Are Equal In Meryl Streep’s Eyes”

  1. Hollywood is going to safeguard the truth… heh.

    Dana (d17a61)

  2. The devil wears pravda.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  3. Kathy steinle also doesn’t matter to judge speroo ( isn’t that Harrison ford reading the nomination)

    narciso (d1f714)

  4. As you say, first world problems.

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. Dana: I suppose it might be a small thing to note, but you write very eloquently. It struck me with this post.

    Leviticus (5d5023)

  6. I doubt Ms. Streep has sat for anything but fawning interviews since roughly about the time Donald Trump became a public media figure in the late 1970s. As a result, she has an extreme bias towards her preferred arts and their practitioners being praised, while forms of entertainment she dislikes can’t just be ignored, but must be denigrated as the the pastime of Neanderthals who most likely voted for Trump in November.

    Roman Polanski is considered by Streep as a historically significant major talent as a director, and therefore worthy of a standing ovation. In her mind, his talent overwhelms any past child sexual assault allegations and there should be a different set of rules for him than for the rabble. In the same vein, she doesn’t care about football or mixed martial arts, so the fans and participants in those sports, no matter what their race or national origin, are deserving of condescension (Don’t know how she’d handle it if Polanski turned out to be a big football or MMA supporter….)

    John (b9daa3)

  7. Winder what her stance on Eliza kazan, a man who spoke out because he saw a threat in his industry, rhetorical. One is reminded that the iron lady who came from hard scrabble roots was similarly derided by elites on both sides if the pond, much like brexit is nowm

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. #7 narciso, Meryl Streep was one of the ones who stood and applauded for Elia Kazan when De Niro and Scorscese presented him with the Lifetime Achievement Award.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  9. Dana: I suppose it might be a small thing to note, but you write very eloquently. It struck me with this post.

    It’s not a small thing to note. It’s very nice of you to notice, and it’s true.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  10. Sorry, the story about Trump mocking a disabled reporter is completed discredited fake news. I wish people would stop spreading it. It wasn’t reprehensible at all, just a fitting counterattack on a lying, scummy left-wing Times reporter. Trump was doing his standard impression of a whiny, flustered, backtracking adversary — and it was the MSM that decided that it looked “spastic”, and decided to attribute the mannerism to the reporter, who was not spastic at all.

    Pro Lifer (ea6c4f)

  11. Ditto the praise for Dana’s prose style.

    The President-elect has been married three times, admits to conducting several extramarital affairs, lives in a area that is inaccessible to people of ordinary income, travels with armed security, has a reputation for being ruthless and convincing, is vain, conceited and narcissistic — in short, he’s very much like the typical Hollywood star. The fact that Streep and her fellow travelers can’t figure this out isn’t as much surprising as it is jus plain ignorant.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  12. An English, Scotch, or Aussie accent appears to be a requirement for a late night or CNN news reader.
    Americans along with the rest of the world need not apply.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  13. For anyone new here, this is a topic that Patrick has CHAMPIONED for years.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  14. Meryl Streep doesn’t do any independent thinking and echoes the conventional wisdom, probably because she thinks the conventional wisdom is true. Which is, that Donald Trump must not be given any honor because he’s a bad person.

    The difference with Roman Polanski may be because Polanski’s personal faults are supposed to be in the past – you don’t hear anything recent or in the past two or three decades (and people are supposed to be forgiven) – while Trump’s personal faults are supposed to be continuing – Hillary Clinton strongly implied so – so she won’t see a contradiction.

    It’s also a different fault. She’s concerned about an instinct to humiliate, which is done in public. This may be something that bothers her.

    While Polanski did what he did in secret and didn’t want anyone else to know. He had no interest in embarassing and shaming his victim. She may have felt so internally, though. But Meryl Streep wouldn’t know, so it was a non-event to her.

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  15. Richard Wolff’s Newsweek column reads like a parody of Streep’s speech — but he’s so moronic I know he is writing in earnest:

    Media fragmentation has created all sorts of thriving niches that accommodate the views of eager consumers, lessening the need to speak to a broader, more difficult-to-reach audience—the once-great mass market. (With no one speaking to it, it’s had to largely contend itself with an expanding diet of sports—another overlooked point of the Trump voter connection, his several decades of red carpet presence at major sporting events.) And, too, convincing higher-fashion cultural consumers that their concerns are paramount ones.

    Wow. And all this time I thought Obama was a Cubs/Bears/Bulls/North Carolina fan. Someone better tell him that Wolff considers him part of the great [unwashed] mass market” since he’s being content with sports.

    And he could have just said “condescending elites” rather than “higher-fashion cultural consumers”.


    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  16. Donald Trump’s defense of his Kowalski comment has changed. At first it was that he didn’t know him or remember him. Now it is that that was not an actual imitation and didn’t resemble how Kowalski actually moves. (although he could still maintain the first position, too)

    One thing: Imitations are sometimes intended to make someone look bad, and for that purpose, can be deliberately different (and “worse”) than the actual motions, so that’s not really a good defense.

    Trump also claims Kowalski was lying. I saw on Mark Steyn’s page on WOR710 that there’s the claim that Kowalski had reported a story that backed up Donald Trump’s claim about thousands cheering the fall of the world Trade Center in Jersey City. But that was seven, and it was probably completely false as far as the men arrested were concerned. Some Arabs probably falsely accused them.

    People have wondered, if it wasn’t on television, what Donald Trump could have seen from the Trump Tower on September 11, 2001. Actually, on September 11, 2001, Donald Trump was in Chicago, discussing plans to build the world’s tallest building, which he (maybe had to) abandon.

    His first proposal afterwards was for about 900 feet.

    From the TIME Almanac of 2006 (section about skyscrapers, page 443)

    On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Adrian D. Smith, a well-known architect in the Chicago office of Skidmore Owings & Merrill, was in a meeting with Donald Trump. The hyperbolic New York City developer was in Chicago to go over the design of a proposed Trump residential tower in that city that he had decided should be — what else — the tallest building in the world, around 2,000 ft. In the midst of that meeting, the two men got word of the the first plane that hot the World Trade Center. “When the second plane hit, we all rushed to the television to see what was happening,” says Smith. “That was the end of the meeting.” And also the end of the 2,000 ft. tower. A few weeks later, Trump’s people came back with a revised proposal – at 900 ft. or so.

    The Trump International Hotel & Tower, at 401 North Wabash Avenue in Chicago, was eventually completed in 2009 at 1,389 feet, well out of range of the world’s top ten tallest buildings by that point, although not before he was sued for $40 million by Deutsche Bank Trust Co. Americas because he had defaulted on a loan Nov. 7, 2007, by not paying off the remaining $334.2 million due in November, 2007. Donald Trump’s lawyer said suing him was a mistake, because he would pay it off before the lawsuit got very far.

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  17. False.

    Trump uses the same gestures many times to describe various people acting weasily prior to the WaPo reporter’s memory of factual events going squishy. – isn’t a spastic or palsy inducing affliction.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  18. Yes, what pro lifer and paper tiger said,

    Silly me,
    When is seeing not to be believed?
    When the commentary comes from the msm
    I saw the video of Trump, and assumed the reporting was correct that he was mocking some one with CP or another spasticity problem….

    Yes, I think it is childish, petty, and unbecoming behavior for any adult,
    But he wasn’t mocking a specific person’s disability…

    They got it wrong, surprise, surprise, surprise…

    I just learned this last night myself listening to Larry Elder in the car

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  19. So Trump should keep his yap shut but Patterico need not? Why? Do you not understand that 100 years of conservative restraint failed utterly? That restraint often convinces observers that the conservative does not really believe his own message?

    Sorry Patterico, the time for restraint is over, let there be some good, loud, damn angry, yelling in pushback.

    Fred Z (b0a041)

  20. [Italics mine.]

    While Polanski did what he did in secret and didn’t want anyone else to know. He had no interest in embarassing and shaming his victim. She may have felt so internally, though. But Meryl Streep wouldn’t know, so it was a non-event to her.
    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8) — 1/10/2017 @ 2:09 am

    Good heavens, Sammy. Where is your moral compass? Polanski had absolutely no interest in his victim’s wellfare, dignity, or humanity. He is a monster. That he committed this outrage against all women, in secret, speaks only to his certain knowledge of the enormity of his crime.

    She may have felt so internally

    Nice of you to throw the victim a tiny bone, a possible allowance of her “feelings.”

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  21. @Sammy Finkleman:She may have felt so internally

    An unfortunate choice of words to describe a victim of anal rape…

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  22. Howard stern, at the time, reported the celebrations.

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. @MD in Philly:They got it wrong, surprise, surprise, surprise…

    You know, at this point the media offers two products:

    Prolefeed: Reality TV, sports, HGTV, etc. Not running down people who like that sort of thing; but the media establishment certainly considers it prolefeed, as we saw from Streep’s commentary.

    Party Line: The approved doubleplusgoodthink for doubleplusgoodthinkers.

    If you want to get any facts, you have to do your own research. What facts are reported are stripped of context, or any other facts which might impeach the Party Line.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  24. @narcisco: reported the celebrations.

    There certainly were such in the West Bank, for example, televised briefly, and caught by places like MEMRI. There weren’t “thousands” in America. Trump I think just has his memories confused, which is not unusual for him or for anyone else. Neil de Grasse Tyson, for example, has a very specific memory of a Bush speech that never existed.

    Gabriel Hanna (678b43)

  25. 15, Minor correction, Obama was a faux White Sox fan, typical of many Hyde Park neighborhood residents (and aspiring pols that came in as transplants) desperate to demonstrate true South Side cred.

    urbanleftbehind (a4b85d)

  26. mouthy hooch thought she’s get away with it but Trump popped a tweet in her ass lol


    happyfeet (28a91b)

  27. oopers *she’d* get away with it i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  28. 21. Sofia Vergara took care of that imagery for better or worse with her special play on the word “annual”.

    urbanleftbehind (a4b85d)

  29. Yes, awkward, then again Meryl worked with cads her whole life.

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. Don’t they know who we are?? Exactly.

    Terrific post (as always), Dana. The preening, the condescension, combined with the utter moral vacuity of these people makes me sick.

    And I don’t even like Trump. At all. But every day that passes makes me happier that people like her and her friend Hillary aren’t in charge.

    no one of consequence (325a59)

  31. “…when anyone attempts to enlighten and impose their moral determinations upon us, they be fully conscious of the log in their own hypocritical eye. ”

    How utterly stupid. Holding Meryl Streep accountable for every ill in Hollywood is tantamount to Trump shouldering every immoral business practice. “Trump better sit down and shut up! Because, Enron!”

    Keep talking Meryl, people love you for it and there’s nothing that people like Dana can do about it.

    Tillman (a95660)

  32. Her name isn’t Meryl. It’s Mary Louise and she was born on June 22, 1949 to pharmaceutical company executive Harry Streep and commercial artist Mary Streep. She was raised in Bernardsville NJ which is lovely, safe, green, hilly horse country with great schools and verrry old money. I don’t begrudge her in the slightest the luck she was born into. None of us can control the circumstances of our birth or who our parents are–and it’s important to remember that as we observe life and draw conclusions about people’s actions and values. But at the same time she can’t credibly assert that she was not highly privileged or claim to speak knowingly for victims in Hollywood or elsewhere.

    This rather arrogant quote from her biography “Simply Streep” tells one a lot about her: Meryl describes herself at age seven as already looking like a forty year old and acting like one too! The kids thought I was one of their teachers.”

    This is the same self annointed “teacher” Streep who showed up on TV on Sunday night.

    elissa (57fdec)

  33. She’s holding her self as a conscience as ‘speaking truth to power ,want she in that Christic fraud, silkwood?

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. Tillman really screwed teh dingo with #31…

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  35. Just another day ending in y, coronello.

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. The only Meryl Streep movie I have watched is The Deerhunter and I didn’t even know it until I went through her filmography.

    Now, if we were talking about Sophia Loren ….

    nk (dbc370)

  37. All the casting couch shenanigans, stereotyping, racial discrimination, sexual harassment that has gone on for decades in Hollywood that Streep is aware of… meh, not impressed with her pathetically selective outrage.

    And teh dingo ate ‘er byebee…

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  38. Suck it, Tillman!

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  39. And that goddam Streep let the Nazi bastards kill one of her kids, too. Where’s the outrage?!?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  40. Loren… now you’re talking! Your taste has certainly improved, given your swooning over the swarthy Abedin!

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  41. #31 Tillman, holding Streep responsible for everything bad that Hollywood has done is almost as kooky sounding as holding the average white guy in 2017 responsible for slavery, huh?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  42. Just when you think it is not possoble—More Golden Globe idiocy. They’re going after Rocky!

    Social justice warriors were always going to be hard on Sylvester Stallone’s presenting appearance at the Golden Globe Awards since he recently tweeted support for Donald Trump and was a guest at his New Year’s Eve party at Mar-a-Lago.

    So it proved. Stallone reunited with Rocky co-star Carl Weathers to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the iconic boxing movie when they presented the last Golden Globe of the night, the Best Motion Picture-Drama award to African-American drama Moonlight.

    Sly Stallone let Weathers announce the winner. Happens all the time at movie awards ceremonies. One guy speaks, then hands over to his co-presenter to announce who won.

    Except this time around, Stallone is weirdly being accused of racism since he let his black friend and co-star Weathers, who played Apollo Creed in the Rocky films, read out that Moonlight — made by a black filmmaker with a predominantly black cast — had won the Golden Globe.

    Marlow Stern, movie writer at the Daily Beast, led the sense of outrage, tweeting: “Something odd about Stallone, Trump supporter who partied w/ him on NYE, giving this to Moonlight.”

    Stern was by no means the only one to flag the issue up. “Did anyone notice it looked like Sylvester Stallone was disgusted at the thought of naming Moonlight as the BEST Film”, one tweeter asked while writer-director Cruz Angeles noted: “Stallone passing envelope to Weathers was telegraphing #Moonlight win but also revealing an insidious act. Am I the only one who noticed?”

    No he wasn’t. Vanity Fair Contributing Editor Elissa Schappell tweeted: “Did it seem like Sly Stallone let, or wanted Carl Weathers to announce best drama winner because Moonlight won? Is that just me? #BlackLight” while comedian Josh Homer wondered if Stallone was “racist for doing that?”

    elissa (57fdec)

  43. When is the black man going to stop looking to the white man for validation?”
    – Gregory House

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  44. That look of disgust on Stallone’s face is the result of botched cosmetic surgery. Have these SJWs no sense of decency?

    Colonel Haiku (6c3d91)

  45. Ah yes, coronello, I remember that film well,

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. How about out of Africa, that film went on an on and on.

    narciso (d1f714)

  47. ==Barcky pardons Streep!==

    Well there’s still 10 days left and they can hardly talk about sports anymore now that sports have been deemed low class by Streep.

    elissa (57fdec)

  48. Greetings:

    It’s always nice hearing from people who make their living by repeating the words and portraying the emotions of others, no ???

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  49. I’m not going to take anything Ms Streep says about the press seriously until she plays Helen Thomas.

    Pinandpuller (c0ca62)

  50. Here is the adorable Sessions grandchild that revolting tweeters from MTV (of course) are calling “a prop” at his confirmation hearing.×434.png

    Here is the story.

    Sessions was accompanied by many members of his family, including his four Asian-American grandchildren. The senator’s daughter, Ruth Sessions Walk, is married to John Walk, an Asian-American manMadison accused Sessions of stealing his grandchildren from Toys “R” Us for the hearing. He went on to call his grandchildren a “prop,” brought to mitigate accusations of racism.

    elissa (57fdec)

  51. Is Meryl going to speak out against the “cops are pigs” painting now hanging in the Capitol? After all, doesn’t a painting in the halls of state full of hate encourage others to hate?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  52. felipe (b5e0f4) — 1/10/2017 @ 6:08 am

    Good heavens, Sammy. Where is your moral compass? Polanski had absolutely no interest in his victim’s wellfare, dignity, or humanity.

    But Trump did, it is presumed. Trump wanted Kowalski to feel bad, but Polanski merely didn’t care – even more so, he would have preferred it has she felt all right about it.

    I was trying to give an explanation as to why Donald Trump looked worse to Meryl Streep than Roman Polanski and analyze her feelings. (or at least her feelings if she was thinking)

    I wasn’t saying she was right to rate Roman Polanski better than Donald Trump. I was explaining its possible basis. There was that Polanski’s personal faults are supposed to be in the past (and forgiven) while Trump’s personal faults are supposed to be continuing (she had that on the authority of Hillary Clinton)

    And there was the fact what Polanski did was not an intent to humiliate.

    She had another point too:

    Nobody would be interested in copying what Roman Polanski did, but people would copy what Donald Trump did.

    ….that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege, power, and the capacity to fight back. It kind of broke my heart, and I saw it, and I still can’t get it out of my head because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.

    Like those kids in Chicago. They were also mocking a disabled person. Although they seemed to be against Donald Trump.

    Maybe they got their cruelty from somebody else or some other things.

    I wonder if Meryl Streep actually meant to blame Donald Trump for that.

    I don’t think most people caught that.

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  53. I might think it might be the things going around them in real life in Chicago, and attitudes that toward otehr human beings that other people had that they encountered – it was that that filtered down into them, but maybe real life is what’s on TV news programs.

    Sammy Finkelman (2178a8)

  54. Its okay to protect rapists if they are for “womens rights”


    Joe (debac0)

  55. @Sammy:And there was the fact what Polanski did was not an intent to humiliate.

    How would you know that, a) and why would that matter given the enormity of what he did, b)?

    Nobody would be interested in copying what Roman Polanski did

    WHAT? Lots of people would be. We call them “rapists”. And when rapists don’t get punished, other rapists take note.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  56. “Hate” does seem to have kind of a fluid definition these days doesn’t it, Patricia?

    elissa (57fdec)

  57. Think about this for a minute, Ms Streep: Donald Trump, Rosie Grier and Rhonda Rousey all have SAG cards.

    I’m sure even Sasha Grey could be autotuned into an Aussie or SA accent.

    Pinandpuller (c0ca62)

  58. Sammy, it’s probably best if you don’t try to over-analyze the actions of the rapists (such as Polanski) and torturers (such as the Chicago 4) in this world. Even if you mean well, and have the right to say it, saying anything to excuse or normalize these abhorrent behaviors is not good citizenship.

    elissa (57fdec)

  59. you’re not suppose to do black lives matter torture on special needs kids under any circumstances

    that’s a good rule of thumb anyway, and it’s one that’s kept a lot of people including myself out of trouble

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. Amen, elissa.

    It’s propaganda on the part of the left. And abject moralism on the part of “well meaning” people like Meryl.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  61. I was never a #NeverTrump. I just wasn’t a fan. But I know a few. And the one thing we all have in common with the Trumpsters is, enjoying watching libs lose their s**t.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  62. As an actress, she shines.
    As an activist, she whines.

    “Did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement?” – Miranda Priestly [Meryl Streep] ‘The Devil Wears Prada’ 2006

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. This thing is worse than anythingg in Chicago:

    Radical Buddhists were attacking or very hostile to innocent Moslems, but then Saudi Arabia and Pakistan decided there was something wrong with the idea of innocent Muslims and/or they needed to keep this thing going and give the Radical Buddhists some reason, and stiffen the back of people who might otherwise stop them so taht they wouldn’t.

    This is true evil.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  64. Radical Buddhists were attacking or very hostile to innocent Moslems…

    No, it was the other way around. When the Muslims invaded India they killed Buddhists at will. That “radicalized” the Buddhists, who figured out if they didn’t arm themselves and learn to fight there would be no Buddhists left.

    And yes I realize there were other strains of Buddhism that weren’t pacifists and had no contact with Muslims. But no one can deny that those Buddhists who did have contact with Muslim invaders weren’t “radicalized” by the experience.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  65. I’m with Steve57. Contrary to what a lot of you thought and said I was and am not still a “Trumpster” or Trump fan at all. I admit I tried to find something I really liked about him but came up empty. Even as a businessman as am I, he leaves much to be desired. I just can’t identify with his kind of person. I don’t think he’s a bad man just an amoral idiot.

    I was really the ultimate Anti-Hillary type. And we won. I don’t know what will happen with Trump at the helm and even though it sometimes worries me it never scares the shit out of me like having Hillary at the helm would.

    I believe Hillary is a commie in the style of the Angela Lansbury character in the Manchurian Candidate and I believe anyone named Hussein is a moslem including He Who Has No Past.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

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