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12/29/2016

Elites In DC Demonstrate More Of That ‘Diversity’ Lip Service

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:19 pm

[guest post by Dana]

In yet another example of how we got Trump, and further confirmation that the Left’s claims of valuing diversity runs only skin deep, consider the difficulties that newly hired Counselor to the President and mom of four, Kellyanne Conway, is having as she tries to find a private school for her children in Washington, DC. According to a parent at her children’s current school, Conway is “asking everyone with connections to DC schools for help” in locating a school that will welcome her children:

“I would not characterize myself as ‘worried’ so much as amused by the silence and sighs on the other end of the phone when friends and allies have made preliminary inquiries on my behalf,” Conway told the Post while visiting schools in D.C. She also pointed to the double standard of the schools that tout diversity while at the same time not wanting to be associated with different points-of-view.

While the posh private schools’ handbooks and websites all preach “diversity” and “open-mindedness,” Conway said, “For some, there is a comfort in sameness.”

Unfortunately, Conway is not moving to a city which celebrates diversity. Because when more than 90% of residents voted for President Obama, there clearly exists a demonstrable lack of diverse political thought.

I don’t know which schools have hesitated at the possibility of the Conway family becoming a part of their community, but given that the Sidwell Friends School has been the go-to school for the Obamas for the past 8 years, what a fabulous opportunity for the renowned institution to reach out and welcome the Conway family, and demonstrate that their Quaker values and philosophy mean something more than just paying mere lip service. What a great opportunity for them to reach across the aisle, if you will. After all, when an organization espouses an open-minded embrace of diversity, should it not also include those whose political philosophies and worldviews differ from their own? Wouldn’t welcoming the Conway family give even more merit to the foundations upon which the school was built?

The Quaker belief that there is “that of God” in each of us shapes everything we do at Sidwell Friends School. It inspires us to show kindness and respect toward one another. It motivates us to recognize and nurture each person’s unique gifts. It teaches us to apply our talents in service to others and to work courageously for peace.

…Differences among us enhance intellectual inquiry, expand understanding, and deepen empathy.

What an opportune moment for any number of left-leaning individuals running D.C.’s private schools to eat their words remember that which their side has repeatedly scolded us with, It’s for the children.

–Dana

195 Responses to “Elites In DC Demonstrate More Of That ‘Diversity’ Lip Service”

  1. The last bastion of unwelcome diversity.

    Dana (d17a61)

  2. she needs to name names

    this would be a perfect little project for amazon turdlord jeffy bezos’s “washington post” fake news operation

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. She should go to a DC bakery and demand that they bake her a cake! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  4. Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    Private entity refuses to serve Kellyanne Conway because of political beliefs: Bad!

    Maybe she could enroll her kids in a public school. They will take anyone.

    (At least until her kids are old enough to start at Hogwarts, anyway, because Conway is certainly some kind of wizard).

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  5. “The Quaker belief that there is “that of God” in each of us shapes everything we do at Sidwell Friends School. It inspires us to show kindness and respect toward one another. It motivates us to recognize and nurture each person’s unique gifts. It teaches us to apply our talents in service to others and to work courageously for peace.”

    Good thing that Christianity doesn’t have some equivalent dang hippie Quaker philosophy that would put cases like Elaine Photography front and center, amirite?

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  6. I went to a Christian private school. There was only one black guy in my class of about 100 of us and the city was roughly 40% black. How’s that for your diversity?

    Tillman (a95660)

  7. Calling out the left for hypocrisy which Leviticus conveniently ignores: Priceless.

    NJRob (43d957)

  8. You should’ve given up your seat Tillman. Problem solved.

    You leftists always want to take from someone else and redistribute their stuff. Never your own.

    NJRob (43d957)

  9. There will be many more than just Conway; they should all get together and glom onto a part of SE D.C./Anacostia and sort of take over the nearest public school.

    urbanleftbehind (11896b)

  10. DC’s elite schools may differ with Conway on political issues, but is that justifican for denying her children enrollment?

    Not in an America worthy of its values.

    ropelight (78afaa)

  11. Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    Wrong, Leviticus, and you freaking well know it.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  12. I went to a Christian private school. There was only one black guy in my class of about 100 of us and the city was roughly 40% black. How’s that for your diversity?

    Tillman (a95660) — 12/29/2016 @ 1:59 pm

    Are you able to give credible evidence of racism on the school’s part? Cut it however you want, it isn’t the school’s fault if blacks, for whatever reason don’t want to attend.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  13. Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    Private entity refuses to serve Kellyanne Conway because of political beliefs: Bad!

    Except the private entity isn’t refusing service to Kennyanne Conway, it’s refusing service to her children.

    And perhaps you’re forgetting that the gay couple went to court and ordered the private entity to server them?

    Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71)

  14. There was only one black guy in my class of about 100 of us and the city was roughly 40% black. How’s that for your diversity?

    Equality of opportunity is not the same thing as equality of result.

    Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71)

  15. Even though your intentional obtuseness gets tiresome, Leviticus, I believe any private school has every right to deny entry to Conway’s children for whatever reason or pretense. However, that does not negate my criticisms of the Left’s hypocrisy. They are not mutually exclusive items.

    With that, I read that Conway is a Catholic, so perhaps her children will attend a private Catholic or Christian school. The problem, however, doesn’t seem to be one of religious differences, but instead, political differences. The last Republican president whose children attended Sidwell was Richard Nixon. And given that that was long before “diversity” (of any sort) became a hot button issue, it seems logical to assume that political ideology trumps diversity.

    Dana (d17a61)

  16. Tillman,

    Are you a white male?

    Dana (d17a61)

  17. Further, Leviticus, I think your arguments will carry water if, and when, Conway files a lawsuit against the private schools for denying her children entry.

    Dana (d17a61)

  18. If KC were to place her children in that Sidwell snakepit, DCS would rightly be on her for child abuse.

    She could set a fantastic example of home-schooling, bringing in sharp teachers for the natural sciences. It would be much less expensive, as well. Then, with her status, her children would have little difficulty being placed in an excellent university. Yes, they would have problems getting into the Ivy/elites. However, this is actually a huge plus, is it not? A win-win.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  19. 1. Do her kids pass the entrance requirements for elite private schools? I.e., are they smart enough?
    2. Are her children the children of the sitting President of the United States?
    3. Should the answer to both the above questions be “No”, I’m pretty sure that the DC (or Maryland or Virginia) public school district in which Kellyanne will reside will enroll her kids without batting an eye.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Of course they will enroll them, nk, there is a legal obligation to enroll any students living within that school district’s boundary whose parents can establish residency within the boundary, a copy of the birth certificate and shot records. That’s not at issue.

    From what I’ve read, she hasn’t even gotten to the point of entrance exams or application. The hesitation comes when the calls of inquiry identify who the interested family is. And that is the problem.

    Dana (d17a61)

  21. Progressives are in favor of different points of view, just as long as your different point of view doesn’t differ from their different point of view.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  22. Progressives generally fear Kellyanne Conway more than they fear unemployed 20 year old male Syrian refugees. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  23. I’m tolerant, but I see no need to tolerate people who aren’t worthy of my toleration!

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  24. Suppose you asked a DC bakery to cater an inaugural ball, and they refused.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  25. I went to a Christian private school. There was only one black guy in my class of about 100 of us and the city was roughly 40% black. How’s that for your diversity?

    That’s because your parents were racists and sent you to the racist school.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  26. Well the first thing I. Noticed was there were no named sources no quotes from kellyanne, but I think its an accurate barometer of beltway sentiment.

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. Once upon a time, the LAUSD was de facto segregated. No law, but blacks live in certain areas and whites lived in other areas. People who lived in integrated areas went to integrated schools.

    A judge decided that this needed to change, so he demanded busing throughout the roughly 500 square miles of the city. Kids were forced into 2-hour bus commutes. Shortly thereafter many private schools opened their doors. Kids being bused from good schools to terrible ones quickly left the public school system. Most of these were white or Asian. Kids being bused from terrible schools to good ones generally tolerated the commute. The result?

    Less than 10% of the LAUSD student body is white. Instead of pockets of minority-only schools, you now have UNIFORMLY minority schools (although the Hispanic minority is now the majority).

    I live in a mostly Anglo area of Los Angeles, but the local schools are almost entirely black. Anyone in Los Angeles who can (including an increasing number of African-Americans) sends their kids to a private school.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  28. Sigh. Obama’s Secretary of Education Arne Duncan’s kids went to a public school in Arlington. When he came to Chicago to take over CPS they transferred to the UofC Lab school (which means they are very, very, very bright kids). To speculate that the elite schools of the ruling class in DC hesitate, when “felt out” on the phone, about accepting Conway’s kids in the middle of a school year, because they are Progressives who don’t like her politics, is paying the lady and her children too high a compliment, I think.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. Kevin at 27: I read about that. Quite an achievement for the judge. Lots of new private schools opened or expanded as I recall: windward, village, crossroads, etc. It wasn’t a race thing: its that parents did not want their kids’ to become part of some judge’s social science experiment while spending up to 2 hours on a bus.

    And teachers got union status and became unaccountable, did they not, which made matters even worse.

    The schools in the palisades are still good, esp. if you enroll them in gifted programs, which seems to mean anyone that reads as expected for their grade.

    Oddly enough, the focus of all the best intentions in Los Angeles (Malibu), does not appear to have anything but an Anglo enrollment.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82)

  30. BTW, the tuition at Sidwell is around $35,000/year and the Conways have four kids?

    nk (dbc370)

  31. Nk,

    Your sighing is duly noted. I’ll be brief.

    To speculate that the elite schools of the ruling class in DC hesitate, when “felt out” on the phone, about accepting Conway’s kids in the middle of a school year, because they are Progressives who don’t like her politics, is paying the lady and her children too high a compliment, I think.

    Would you agree that *if* the snub is taking place, that it’s less about her being a Republican and far more about Trump himself? Because that I could also see. His name won’t be opening any doors in that town. To the contrary.

    Dana (d17a61)

  32. Yup. Absolutely. I thought about Melania not even trying to deal with it this year, and keeping Barron in New York.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. Like it or not, the Republicans and Trump are now entirely entwined. So, if a school rejects the Conways because of Trump, they are in essence rejecting them because they are Republicans. Or at least the wrong kind of Republicans, no?

    Dana (d17a61)

  34. Kevin, what passes for desegregation in the Seattle public schools was also accomplished through the attrition of the white students. In the late 80s, white births in Seattle ran at about 7200 children per year. Year by year, as these children neared Kindergarten, their parents found better things to do with their kids than to march them to a bus stop at 6:45 am, hoping for the best, and then wait anxiously for them to be returned around 4 pm from locales selected by their betters in the school district. As a result, the enrollment of white kids in the Seattle schools numbered around 4200 by Kindergarten. Most of the rest of that cohort fled to the suburbs, although private schools within Seattle enrolled around 500. This cohort slowly dropped to the 3500 level by 8th grade, and these kids stayed the course, graduating in similar numbers four years later. The racial “balance” accomplished by this culling satisfied the social justice warriors, but they suffered from selective cognition. If they were open to the real world they’d created, they would have noted that their much sought after “diversity” collapsed in the 11th and 12th grades as minority students dropped out in large numbers. Graduation rates for “selected” minorities are still running at around 60%. But you wouldn’t know it from the commencement ceremonies, where the schools invite everyone, whether they’ve graduated or not, just to make sure that no one is left out, and no one outside the school is the wiser. All those proud aunts and uncles, if only they knew! I presume those who don’t get the much despised diploma are given registration papers for the GED course at the local community college, in hopes of future enlightenment.

    We sent our kids to Catholic schools and they reminded me a lot of my public schools in the 50s and 60s. Fairly strict discipline, no special privileges for anyone, and those who wouldn’t behave were quickly expelled. Of course my high school was forced to bus because it didn’t have enough white kids.

    One consequence of this desegregation by attrition policy is that enrollment collapsed, compared to pre-bussing levels, Seattle enrolled only 60% as many students once this “diversity” was imposed on the unwashed hordes. But this proved to be a benefit for those who controlled Seattle as the failed public schools proved to be a valuable political asset. The district never sold the schools they no longer needed. Instead, they were leased to selected private enterprises, with very short term leases that were potentially quite risky. But with the right kind of connections, and the proper level of financial support for Democrat candidates, short term could be very long term indeed.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  35. I wouldn’t go that far. I would say that Trump’s inner circle is not important enough to rate special treatment just because of their association with Trump. I agreed with your phrasing, Trump’s name is not opening any doors.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. Clearly his inner circle won’t receive special treatment, which is fine. It becomes problematic, however, if they are penalized because of it.

    Dana (d17a61)

  37. Nk, correct me if I’m wrong…Chicago didn’t have forced busing in the literal sense (de jure on a yellow bus) in the same time period as LA, Boston, Cleveland etc. The CPS devised the Options for Knowledge program, which put magnet (gifted) schools in sketchy areas and many interest area based programs (e.g. Drama, industrial graphics, computers) in then remnant majority white areas. It may have helped that the system, due to long history of Catholic schools (engendered by 1800s WASP, Swedish,German, and German-Jew prejudice against Irish), did not contain such a large agglomeration of whites in the system to chip away at by the 1960s. And from personal anecdote, hispanic was white in the early 1980s at least in CPS’ South Side districts. I went to a magnet elementary then magnet HS, as opposed to Mount Carmel (i would have preferred St. Rita, but the commute was more treacherous).

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  38. I don’t know very much about it, ulb. I think you’re right about the Catholic schools. I know parents in good suburbs with good schools who send their kids to parochial schools.

    nk (dbc370)

  39. I do remember a few years back, Judge Kocoras, who oversees the current Chicago desegregation decree, musing how much desegregation you can have when CPS is only 13% white. (And that probably includes white Hispanics and Middle Easterners.)

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Clearly in my conservation, the public schools are majority minority, but that’s not about race but socioeconomic status.

    narciso (d1f714)

  41. @Leviticus:Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    You have no need to lie to make your point. This thing you said is a lie. It never happened.

    Just like your Trump Brand VA hospitals are a lie.

    If you can’t make your case without lying, something is wrong with your case.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  42. 16. Yes, Dana, I am a white male. ‘Not sure why it matters. Are you?

    Tillman (a95660)

  43. nk, every appointee to a Federal judgeship should be required to run a Bed and Breakfast profitably for three years prior to taking his position, just to ensure that we don’t get nincompoops like this Kocoras fellow. His sardonic humor shows that he knows he’s consigning hundreds of thousands of kids to a failed education, and yet he laughs. Marie Antoinette’s “let them eat cake” is a far more understanding and emphatetic utterance even without the understanding that the “cake” she meant was a low valued by-product of bakeries.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  44. Well he was a last minute carter appt, however did he not have a point.

    narciso (d1f714)

  45. He was pointing out the pointlessness of the desegregation decree.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. He was fiddling while Rome burned. Musing indeed. The Feds are responsible for so much of what has gone wrong in our educational system. Now he can get a few chuckles over the silliness of the fundamental prescription? Ha ha. Good joke your honor.

    Some one must be held accountable for this, but instead we laugh.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  47. muse2
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    verb
    1.
    be absorbed in thought.
    “he was musing on the problems he faced”
    synonyms: ponder, consider, think over/about, mull over, reflect on, contemplate, turn over in one’s mind, chew over, give some thought to, cogitate on; More

    nk (dbc370)

  48. Well, at least Chicago has the gun control issue under control. By doing so, they’ve drastically reduced the number of murders in the Windy City.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  49. @BobStewart:the “cake” she meant was a low valued by-product of bakeries.

    It was brioche: Qu’ils mangent de la brioche. Doesn’t matter, since she never said it, it’s from Rousseau’s”Confessions” and before her time. But brioche then, as now, is not a “low valued by-product of bakeries”.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  50. We didn’t have all these shootings before the Scalia court repealed Chicago’s gun control laws in McDonald v. City of Chicago and the Posner court imposed concealed carry in Chicago and statewide in Moore v. Madigan.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. It’s especially true when it comes to Trump that conservatives regard liberals as wrong, but liberals regard conservatives as evil.

    Now admitting choldren of an adviser to a school cannot really be considered as an endorsement of policy but what’s happening here is that the schools must be afraid of losing some students if they have any association with Donald Trump. This is pretty bad.

    They want to push Trumpp outside he Overton window. Trump himself, not even anything he might do.

    Sammy Finkelman (151ce5)

  52. Ok, is that your final answer nk,

    So first they go after his most trusted adivisor. And one his formal one, how hard would it be to blackball students coming from this or that tony prep school

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. nk, give me a break. Those guys who are shooting each other are just taking care of business. It’s the business that they are in that is the problem. And they are in that business because they are the third generation indoctrinated by progressives, who regard low expectations for minority kids as compassion. The police have studied this, and they can almost predict the date of demise for the gangsters. The only question is who will survive the encounter.

    Scalia???

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  54. Nobody went after his most trusted advisor. We have Kellyanne complaining that the educators of the children of Presidents, Secretaries, Senators, Congressmen, and foreign dignitaries did not jump up and down with joy at the possibility that the Conway kids might grace their school with their presence.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. Don’t tell me, Bob. Tell Cruz Supporter who has no clue about Chicago’s gun laws. Or about much else, for that matter.

    nk (dbc370)

  56. We don’t know that she did, but as mark stein put its no one in Russia puts up bumperstickers ‘I’m scared of volodya, except possibly the riot gyros, they know better.

    narciso (d1f714)

  57. Except that various gun countol nakaz’s didn’t criminals from getting the guns, law abiding citizens are (redacted

    narciso (d1f714)

  58. Gabriel,

    What a pleasant contribution to my day! Brioche indeed.

    Brioche is a pastry of French origin that is similar to a highly enriched bread, and whose high egg and butter content give it a rich and tender crumb. Chef Joel Robuchon describes it as “light and slightly puffy, more or less fine, according to the proportion of butter and eggs.”

    And now you tell me that Marie didn’t say it! Her execution was in error? Based on false evidence?

    French justice, the eternal curse. ISIS and the Tunisians have chosen wisely.

    My cardiologist tells me that I need to avoid bread and butter (its my genes, my wife is not so constrained,) if I want to avoid another event. But please don’t mind me, let them eat cake.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  59. Roman law, you’ll find in winik’s the great upheavakmany things said about her were wrong.

    narciso (d1f714)

  60. We have to close the friend-or-relative-who-is-not-a-prohibited-person loophole. In Chicago, as well as all of Illinois, any citizen or permanent resident over the age of 21, who is not a felon, wife-beater or adjudicated mentally ill or addicted, can get a gun. So the bad guys get their girlfriends or sisters to buy guns for them. We need a law that makes all persons who are related to, or associate with, prohibited persons also prohibited persons. What do you think?

    nk (dbc370)

  61. Gun laws have nothing to do with Chicago’s violence. The city is a failed experiment. Almost all our city’s are failed experiments. You have to be a progressive to willingly blind yourself to this reality. Europe is a clue.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  62. Thugs always end up getting a gun regardless of the law — that’s why they’re thugs.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  63. nk, why stop at denying the right to self defense to known associates, just shoot them. The police model suggests that, unarmed, they wouldn’t last long, so (employing the logic of our deep thinkers) it won’t make a lot of difference to them. But all you would do is prove that these social connections really weren’t needed for the gangsters to get what they need to survive. Worse, if guns weren’t available from elsewhere, then IEDs would likely be the preferred implements, and then the death toll would include many who can’t be predicted as “victims” in the police model, which is to say they would truly be victims.

    Our police are employing Iraqi/Afghanistan assault procedures in everyday encounters. One of the spinoffs from our attempt to bring democracy to muslim the world, sort of like transistors and the Space Program. Children are getting scalded in their cribs with flash-bangs, pets are shot if they bark at the guys battering in the front door, and nice people who are erroneously attacked by these teams in error are routinely brutalized and terrorized. IEDs, residential assaults by the police, and, of course, censoring of our communications would all fit together rather well, don’t you think? It would be like living in Europe.

    BobStewartatHome (822f64)

  64. Then again, Chris Dodd went to Georgetown prep, Howard dean went to St Georges, not a lick of sense between them, sheldon Whitehouse like the trufecta.

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. Remember the gangsters were thankful for the Sullivan laws, and crime really improved after dunblane and port Arthur respectively.

    narciso (d1f714)

  66. Tillman:
    Dana is neither white nor male. Her family was here before this continent was “discovered”.

    John Hitchcock (06648b)

  67. One thing to consider — its freaking January. Private schools enroll kids in August, and the best private schools are full with a waiting list.

    And she’s not the Pres. She’s a high level staffer — that’s it.

    I sympathize with her plight, but not everything is a conspiracy against Trump supporters.

    shipwreckedcrew (e707a3)

  68. He was pointing out the pointlessness of the desegregation decree.

    If it had only BEEN pointless! Instead it destroyed the public schools. Not only did the Anglo families flee, but they never came back even after busing ended. They also stopped voting for money for public schools. Which would have made the destruction more total had the unions not already trapped most of the money in high-paying administration jobs, since teaching all these poor kids was such a bother.

    The road to Hell, paved as usual.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  69. @BobStewart:Brioche indeed.

    Yes. The sense being that she was supposedly so out of touch that she didn’t realize that people who can’t afford bread can’t afford brioche either. I suppose a modern equivalent might be Kim Kardashian, on hearing that traffic is so bad that her landscape crew is late to work, wonders why they didn’t just take a helicopter and get there on time.

    And now you tell me that Marie didn’t say it!

    She was 9 years old and living out of France (she was an Austrian, born in Vienna) when Rousseau published the book; he would have had no idea who she was and cannot have meant the princess he referenced to be her. He probably made it up, or perhaps it was a proverbial expression.

    Her execution was in error? Based on false evidence?

    Her execution had nothing to do with that saying, it was never attributed to her until 1843. She was killed for no crime, but for who she was. She was accused of any number of crimes, with no basis in reality (for example, incest, and a plot to murder the National Guards).

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  70. Bob, Europe missed its chance — it should have used those types of municipal police tactics when the Islamic community in each country was one particular ethno group (Algerians-France, Turks-West Germany).

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  71. I sympathize with her plight, but not everything is a conspiracy against Trump supporters.

    In this political atmosphere with these political types, yes everything is a conspiracy against Trump supporters. Or do I need to review the restaurants, Rockettes etcetera?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  72. The election was rigged, too.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. this is so much better, having Mr. Trump to look forward to

    i love it so much!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  74. I was jesuit educated, we only had one corrupt commissioner and the congressman who committed election fraud.

    narciso (d1f714)

  75. BY all accounts COnway is a top tier person of high intellect and unquestioned morals and ethics. Sad that she is being sdlapped with the duplicity of The Left’s incapcity to practice what they preach

    NEoCon_1 (0a21d6)

  76. Well, that’s the leftwing elite for you: educated in the “best” schools, taught untruths and anti-Americanism and full of disdain for all but those most like themselves.

    They should endeavor to go take a flying fu*k at a rolling donut.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  77. And fu*k sweet home Chicago too.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  78. nk (dbc370) — 12/29/2016 @ 9:26 pm

    So the bad guys get their girlfriends or sisters to buy guns for them. We need a law that makes all persons who are related to, or associate with, prohibited persons also prohibited persons. What do you think?

    This can be caled the “straw-buyer” loophole. IIt is illegal to be a straw buyer I think, bit not self-enforcing.

    I have proposed that 10 people, no more than 7 from the same sex, have to endorse someone’s right to buy a gun, and ability to prevent it from being stolen, and taht they know how to use it, with some kind of penalty for being wrong.

    This will at a minimum get gangs to self-identify.

    Also when Chicago finds someone with an illegal gun, and they don’t ahve agood, non-crminal reason for it, there need to be harsher penalties. Like going to jail.

    Sammy Finkelman (c31643)

  79. That’s what SNY/NYPD get right vs. Chicago (example Plaxico Burress). Here in Chicago, gun charges are the first pled out of or dropped. The ten friends provision I guess would be a measure (it would also mitigate the chance of a “racial profiling suit from hell” against a firearms vendor were a crackdown on straw buying to occur using traditional means). But would there be measures against people being straw/ersatz good character witnesses for multiple miscreant s?

    urbanleftbehind (c8adc7)

  80. “@Leviticus:Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    You have no need to lie to make your point. This thing you said is a lie. It never happened.”

    – Gabriel Hanna

    It didn’t? How do you figure?

    If you’re gonna argue the difference between a religious belief and a political belief, you should do so directly. If you’re going to argue that no private entity refused to serve any gay couple, you should do so directly. If you’re going to argue that no one (or no one here, or not the majority of people here) thought it was good that a private entity could refuse to serve a gay couple, you should do so directly.

    Because then, instead of just disagreeing over whether something a “lie,” we can discuss which part of the comparison you think to be inapt. I think the comparison is apt, personally, but I’m open to discussion.

    Do you think that private entities should be able to refuse service to those they do not wish to serve? Always? Never? Or only in particular circumstances? If the latter, which circumstances?

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  81. “Well, that’s the leftwing elite for you: educated in the “best” schools, taught untruths and anti-Americanism and full of disdain for all but those most like themselves.

    They should endeavor to go take a flying fu*k at a rolling donut.”

    – Colonel Haiku

    You contribute so much. Such a good tradeoff to have you here instead of Dustin.

    Heck, between Haiku grousing about “anti-Americanism” and Hanna calling people liars, we’ll elevate the discourse around here in no time!

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  82. The other side does not practice diversity, because they have always gotten away with demonizing the center-right. Their allies in the media and education and entertainment have enabled it. No one spoke up against it.

    I think the silence is about to end.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  83. The Left is for diversity — but just as long as you don’t differ from them.
    They’re all about preaching, but not so enthusiastic about the practicing.
    Just a few weeks ago, they were praising authoritarian dictator Fidel Castro on the one hand, while simultaneously lecturing everyone about how America’s electoral college subverts the “principle” of one-man, one-vote.

    Recognizing irony is not a strong suit of Lefties. Maybe they don’t teach it in English classes at Sidwell Friends? (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  84. Sammy, did you write comment #78 while intoxicated? Not only does it make little sense but it is so unconstitutional to even be considered as serious causes me to believe you’re joking.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  85. Keep that snarl going, Leviticus. Happy New Year, pup!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  86. Actually, some places do have a law that prohibits a law-abiding household member from having a gun in the household if there is also a prohibited person living there. But I was being sarcastic. I am no fan of gun control unless it means keeping your groups tight.

    As for Kellyanne’s kids, shipwreckedcrew nailed it:

    One thing to consider — its freaking January. Private schools enroll kids in August, and the best private schools are full with a waiting list.

    And she’s not the Pres. She’s a high level staffer — that’s it.

    I sympathize with her plight, but not everything is a conspiracy against Trump supporters.

    shipwreckedcrew (e707a3) — 12/29/2016 @ 11:15 pm

    If Kellyanne has anything to complain about, it is that she is not getting special consideration.

    nk (dbc370)

  87. Leviticus, you knew you lied. You proved it in your challenge. I’ll make it simple for you.

    The difference between a Bible-based Christian value and a political position is the same as the difference between desiring oxygen and desiring sprinkles on your donut.

    You are a dishonest, bad faith individual. Even Dana has called you out for that. I respect aphrael; I do not respect you.

    John Hitchcock (06648b)

  88. 78… Sammeh, Chicago politicians collude with the gangs, they are allies.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  89. In the state of New Mexico, it’s illegal for women to pump gas. No one is allowed to carry a lunchbox down Main Street in Las Cruces, New Mexico. I’m pleased to tell you, it gets weirder.

    Beautiful state though…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  90. Jack Woltz: All right, start talking!
    Tom Hagen: I come from a personal friend of Mr Johnny Fontane. That friend promises his undying friendship if you would do him a small favour.
    Jack Woltz: What’s that?
    Tom Hagen: Give Johnny a part in that war movie you’re starting next week.
    [Woltz signs a document with a smile and walks away, Hagen alongside him]
    Jack Woltz: And what favours does this friend promise in exchange for giving Johnny the part?
    Tom Hagen: You’ve got some labour trouble coming up. My client promises to make that trouble disappear. You have a top star who makes a lot of money, but he just graduated from marijuana to heroin…
    Jack Woltz: [all East Side now] Are you trying to muscle me?
    Tom Hagen: Absolutely not. I’ve come to ask a service for a friend…

    The Godfather (1972)

    nk (dbc370)

  91. Off-topic, but ain’t it just like Obama to lob grenades and salt the ground on his way out the door?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  92. The Left does not recognize diversity (i.e. judged by the “content of their character”), but rather class diversity (i.e. judged by the “color of their skin”). The Left’s [class] diversity is a reconstitution of institutional racism, sexism, etc. Their quasi-religion is notoriously Pro-Choice.

    n.n (b35206)

  93. Leviticus is so understanding when oikophobia is practicedn

    narciso (d1f714)

  94. “In Illinois, if you don’t do your domestic-abuse training course every two years, you’ll lose your hairdressing license – and your livelihood.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/253254/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  95. So since the Left has decided that Russian spies caused working class white Democrats in the Rust Belt states to vote for Trump, does that mean their votes aren’t due to “racism”?
    Or did Russian spies cause those working class white Democrats who voted for Barack to all of a sudden reveal their latent “racism” by voting for a 70 year old white man over a 69 year old white woman? (LOL)
    Maybe in an honest and sincere moment after they’ve had too many martinis (or bong hits!), the Lefties will finally acknowledge that Hillary was a terrible candidate and that Mr Donald tapped into people’s anxieties about the economy, trade, foreign policy, and immigration.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  96. #95 Colonel, the Illinois state legislature is trying to ensure that there are more former hairdressers in prison than former Governors.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  97. If Kellyanne has anything to complain about, it is that she is not getting special consideration.

    That’s why it’s called “special consideration”. She’s a Trump supporter so she’s lucky to get any consideration let alone “special”. That’s saved for the left. But then it’s not “special” it’s SOP.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  98. Can the Russians hack into a school’s server and put KAC’s kids at the top of the list?

    Pinandpuller (20e73e)

  99. yes they can Mr. puller and twice as quicky, competently, and untraceably as failmerica’s sad flailing CIA poofters can (and on a tenth of the budget)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  100. 84. Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 12/30/2016 @ 9:03 am

    Sammy, did you write comment #78 while intoxicated?

    No.

    Not only does it make little sense

    I wasn’t quite accurate about what I said. Make that a gun-owner’s license, (not for every gun)

    I wasn’t clear.

    Not a license issued by the police, or any kind of elite group, or vetoable by somebody that is supposed to know if someone s dangerous (which is impossible for strangers whatever their credentials) but by a person’s peers.

    but it is so unconstitutional to even be considered as serious causes me to believe you’re joking.

    No, I think it is actually quite constitutional, and fully in line with the idea of a militia. It would cause anybody planning anything to talk, even if only to lie (and lies can, and would, be detected) and it would cause people to be better, and more careful, gun owners, but at the same time would not actually interfere with most people owning a gun.

    About half of my gun proposals are here: (it’s not fully worked out) but I think it would get rid of the straw buyer loophole (and calling that a “loophole” is a joke)

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/12/new-york-times-calls-for-gun-confiscation-on-page-one/

    Here’s what I wrote in part:

    What I would have is a gun license, like a driver’s license, which says nothing about owning or not owning any cars or number of cars, that would be acquired if 10 citizens, at least 3 of the opposite sex, certified that the person who wanted a gun license would not use it for criminal activity, and knew how to use a gun properly, or would learn, and was capable of preventing the gun from being stolen.

    It might be acquired automatically – if someone had a previous record of gun pwnership, except that still 10 people would have to say it’s OK with them.

    If someone can’t find 10 people who would trust him with a gun, it’s reasonable to say he shoudn’t legally be allowed to possess a gun.

    I also said:

    There would be some kind of incentive or penalty, I haven’t figured out what, so that people wouldn’t lie or say that for money. And some incentive to report a change in circumstances. If someone lost a person [from the ten], they could substitute another. This either would prevent crme, or give a short list of co-conspirators, and how many people would want to be on it??

    The number of people who need to sign on makes it difficult to hide whate the purpose is of getting armed. If a crime is committed, the people who sign on to him might find themselves investigated or prosecuted.

    I also said everyone including police should be restricted to 6-shooters. There is no advantage to having such guns, except to a mass killer. Defenders need to aim. Attackers can fire at random.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b302e)

  101. Also when Chicago finds someone with an illegal gun, and they don’t ahve agood, non-crminal reason for it, there need to be harsher penalties. Like going to jail.

    Sammy Finkelman (c31643) — 12/30/2016 @ 7:52 am

    79. urbanleftbehind (c8adc7) — 12/30/2016 @ 8:08 am

    That’s what SNY/NYPD get right vs. Chicago (example Plaxico Burress).

    they were a little bit too strong with Plaxico Burress, since he wasn’t a typical illegal gun pwner, albeit a very careless one)

    Here in Chicago, gun charges are the first pled out of or dropped. The ten friends provision I guess would be a measure (it would also mitigate the chance of a “racial profiling suit from hell” against a firearms vendor were a crackdown on straw buying to occur using traditional means). But would there be measures against people being straw/ersatz good character witnesses for multiple miscreant s?

    I think a person might be limited to the number of people he or she could vouch for, unless maybe a huge number of people vouched for that person.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b302e)

  102. Steel bars won’t stop them from by-proxy voting for the dead in Chicago, Hoagie. They are too far gone, they’ve lost their souls, ethics and any sense of right and wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  103. This thing you said is a lie. It never happened

    I think various vendors were approached and asked if they would refuse to do this or that, and when they found someone who would say that, they had their target. There never was an actual case of someone wanting something.

    Except maybe the case with the baker not wanting to put some words on a wedding cake.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b302e)

  104. 100. Pinandpuller (20e73e) — 12/30/2016 @ 11:22 am

    Can the Russians hack into a school’s server and put KAC’s kids at the top of the list?

    If somebody pays them, maybe.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b302e)

  105. So what Sammy is proposing is like my Verizon plan where I share my gun with nine other friends and family?

    Abraham got Jehovah talked down to 10 righteous men in Sodom and he was still out of luck.

    Pinandpuller (20e73e)

  106. KAC should hire a live in tutor a la the CS Lewis book, I think it’s The Magician’s Nephew.

    DC is surely as hostile an environment as Tashbaan, with the recent influx of Calormen.

    Pinandpuller (20e73e)

  107. AW Geez, Gloria, am I thinking of Prince Caspian?

    At any rate, does KAC really want to raise two Amy Carters and a Ron Reagan and Patty Davis?

    Pinandpuller (20e73e)

  108. If someone can’t find 10 people who would trust him with a gun, it’s reasonable to say he shoudn’t legally be allowed to possess a gun.

    So then you believe it reads: “The Right of the People to Keep and Bear arms shall not be infringed, unless he can’t find ten people who will trust him with a gun then all bets are off.”

    A bit long winded but I’ll bet the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will go for it.

    I’m beginning to think we need a real shootin’ style civil war to separate the wheat from the chaff. Time to water that Tree of Liberty again.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  109. If someone can’t find 10 people who would trust him with a gun, it’s reasonable to say he shoudn’t legally be allowed to possess a gun.

    I also said:
    There would be some kind of incentive or penalty, I haven’t figured out what, so that people wouldn’t lie or say that for money. And some incentive to report a change in circumstances. If someone lost a person [from the ten], they could substitute another. This either would prevent crme, or give a short list of co-conspirators, and how many people would want to be on it??
    The number of people who need to sign on makes it difficult to hide whate the purpose is of getting armed. If a crime is committed, the people who sign on to him might find themselves investigated or prosecuted.

    I also said everyone including police should be restricted to 6-shooters. There is no advantage to having such guns, except to a mass killer. Defenders need to aim. Attackers can fire at random.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b302e) — 12/30/2016 @ 12:00 pm

    Explain the constitutionality of allowing your neighbors veto power over your rights.

    Waiting for your response with bated breath.

    Locke (b6a193)

  110. @Leviticus:Do you think that private entities should be able to refuse service to those they do not wish to serve? Always? Never? Or only in particular circumstances? If the latter, which circumstances?

    Always should be able to refuse service to those they do not wish to serve. Doing so may be immoral in some circumstances but should never be illegal.

    Your turn.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  111. @102 Sammy

    My record of gun “pwnership” is my Xbox Live account.

    Probably the funniest thing I ever heard on there were some eye-talian fellers commenting on my Halo performance:”Peen and Pooler, you are a peece of sheeeet!”

    Pinandpuller (20e73e)

  112. Gabriel,

    I think I agree with you. So, the question stands: which part of my original comment was a “lie,” again?

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  113. “I respect aphrael; I do not respect you.”

    – John Hitchcock

    Maybe you do respect aphrael, In spite of the many, many comments on this site you’ve made on this site that would indicate otherwise. Only you can speak to that. Speaking for myself, based on the many, many comments you’ve made on this site over the years, I don’t give a sh*t whether you respect me or not. I suspect a vast majority of the people on this site feel the same way, for the same reasons.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  114. JUST STOP LYING AND YOU WON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT HELLO

    #truthissogood

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. luvin that troof

    #2016buhbye

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  116. Gay marriage was not a religious redefinition of marriage. It was a political redefinition of marriage. Objecting to bakers being forced, by the state, to bake a cake, for something that the state calls marriage, may be based on religious conviction but it is still a political act. A political objection. An objection to a government policy.

    It’s easy if you know how to think.

    nk (dbc370)

  117. Nk,

    Its a requirement by the state to force a Christian to violate their faith. Turn against God because the state demands. No different than Daniel being sentenced to death in the lion’s den because he prayed to God and not the king.

    Locke (b6a193)

  118. This may shock you, Locke, but it is possible for an act to be both political and religious at the same time.

    Kishnevi (b4162e)

  119. Absolutely. And blatantly. The religious beliefs of the photographers, bakers and florists were never at issue. The state said, “We don’t care what you believe, why you believe it, or even whether you believe it, you’re going to comply with government policy”.

    nk (dbc370)

  120. gay marriage was not a redefinition of marriage

    god help them gay bastards

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  121. @Leviticus:which part of my original comment was a “lie,” again?

    This part:

    Private entity refuses to serve a gay couple because of political beliefs: Good!

    The reason it was a lie is because this did not happen, and you contrasted it with something that did happen, and used it to accuse the commenters here of partisan hyprocrisy or some such.

    You can name Kellyanne Conway, and what she says has happened to here. But your first sentence, you have no example of this actually happening, and consequently no commenter here would have said anything like what you characterized them as agreeing to.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  122. Which part of it “did not happen,” Gabriel? I’ve clearly invited you to identify that part. I’ve even gone so far as to break my comment into its operative parts for you. Your response was to ignore the invitation, which makes your argument look weak.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  123. @Leviticus;Which part of it “did not happen,” Gabriel?

    Give us an example of a “gay couple” “refused service” due to “political beliefs”.

    You have none. Hence, lie.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  124. Masterpiece Cake Shop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  125. As kishnevi points out, an act may be both religious and political at the same time.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  126. But by all means, just keep repeating “lie” over and over without addressing the substance of the disagreement.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  127. Homosexual marriage was absolutely a forced government redefinition of the language and the same reason we have so many morons out there trying to claim they are gender fluid, gender neutral and any many other forms of mental illness.

    NJRob (57630d)

  128. @Leviticus:Masterpiece Cake Shop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

    Lie.

    A gay couple was not refused service; as is true in all of these cases, they could have had a cake if it had not been for a ceremony the baker had a religious objection to.

    The issue was not political beliefs.

    “Whether applying Colorado’s public accommodations law to compel petitioner to create expression that violates his sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage violates the Free Speech or Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment.

    You continue to be a liar. By all means keep lying if you wish to injure your cause further.

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  129. Whatever, Gabriel. Us having a difference of opinion about what’s political, what’s religious, and what’s both doesn’t make me a liar.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  130. If a private Christian entity says “I don’t think gay people should be allowed to marry each other,” is that a religious statement, a political statement, both, or neither?

    If a private Christian entity says “I don’t think black people should be allowed to marry white people,” is that a religious statement, a political statement, both, or neither?

    If a private Christian entity (like, say, the Sidwell Friends School) says “I don’t want to associate with KellyAnne Conway,” is that a religious statement, a political statement, both, or neither?

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  131. Couple A asks for a wedding cake. Baker provides it.

    Couple B asks for a wedding cake. Baker refuses to provide it.

    According to Gabriel Hanna, this does not constitute a refusal of service to Couple B.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  132. Refusing service to anyone for any reason even though it may hurt someones feelings, does not divide the country. The government forcing a person to serve another does. It establishes victim/oppressor status and it forces one person to labor for another involuntarily which is the definition of slavery. Which I believe is illegal.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  133. stupid christian bigot poopers don’t wanna bake a cake they shouldn’t have too

    who isn’t over those losers and their self-righteously hyper-selective cake-baking hangups anyway

    nasty people

    but not letting a kid go to school cause you hate his mom

    that’s really disgusting

    i got your sidwell friends right here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  134. shouldn’t have *to* i mean (bake a cake)

    especially not this close to new years cause people are trying to do good on their resolutions

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  135. this is a problem with mind arson, rev, it makes it unpossible to think correctly,

    narciso (d1f714)

  136. The objective narciso, was never to provide “justice” or even service to the poor, embattled gays. It wasn’t even to reduce the idea of private property by diminishing the most basic private property of all: oneself. The agenda has always been to debunk Christianity because if people actually believe that God is the Creator they won’t believe all blessings flow from Washington which would undermine the eventual socialist takeover. Besides, it’s much easier to introduce millions of third world moslems into a country like Germany who has lost their Christian roots so we must be made more like Germany. Allahu Akbar!

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  137. yes, hoagie, driving the bible out of the public sphere, created a space for new language, that is devoid of ethics integrity, and civic consciousness, all the while, pretending to be said instrument,
    so Moloch’s minions and other slithy troves hold sway through the media,

    narciso (d1f714)

  138. ugh it’s so sad how people won’t let the gay marriage thing go and just move on and dot the org

    it’s 2017 for the love of Pete

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  139. almost

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  140. 140.ugh it’s so sad how people won’t let the gay marriage thing go and just move on and dot the org

    If you think we are talking about gay marriage you’ve missed the point.org.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  141. yes, and that is the least of it, they are eloi, just waiting to be summoned to the bunker,

    narciso (d1f714)

  142. yes, look how quick they went to transgender, they’ve speculated where the next frontier will be, and they are very patient,

    narciso (d1f714)

  143. Hoagie @ 134: I really, really do understand that point, and think I’m about 90% or more in agreement. It’s just hard for me to make the last leap past the idea of public accommodations laws, even though I know I logically should. I do think it is an anxiety rooted in the education I received – a bias that I acknowledge, essentially.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  144. trannies are gross if i saw one in my bathroom i would scream like a girl

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  145. Leviticus, it’s just that in my 65 (soon to be 66) years on earth I have learned there is absolutely nothing a leftist does which doesn’t advance the narrative. All their talk of compassion, for the children, helping this or that “victim” is all lies. They are about one thing: power. Power over everybody they deem as Hillary put so well: deplorables. And they hate moslems for the same reason they hate Christians; religion. It’s just that they’re scared shitless by moslems and they know we Christians aren’t gonna kill them. Yet. They better read the Book.

    These leftists wanted to force the bakers to bake the cake not because of fairness or justice, but because it helps establish the order of power that their government trumps our God. Do you think they would challenge a moslem baker? Hahaha.

    With the left everything is politics and politics is power over others, from who has to bake a cake to which light bulbs you can use to who speaks at leftist colleges to who gets in to Sidwell Friends School. Trump is a slob but I voted for him because I couldn’t tolerate another corrupt Clinton in the White House and I just love watching the heads explode on the left every time he tweets.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  146. Leviticus, the “education” you received was likely designed to indoctrinate rather than educate. I chanced upon a commencement speech by a young black man who waxed poetic on the segregation he had experienced as a boy in Pasadena in the 1970s. He was amazed at the heights he had climbed, as witnessed by his participation in this law school graduation. The speech was at UCLA around 1994. I grew up in Pasadena, and as a boy my family traveled and I had the “opportunity” to witness segregation in South in the mid-1950s. Pasadena was never like the South at all. This silly little fellow was publicly confirming that he was hopelessly entangled in a mishmash of grievances and ignorance that was going to blind side him for the rest of his life. He’s probably the Mayor of some benighted city by now, and anyone who disagrees with him on any subject is a bigot, just like all those people who dared to disagree with him when he was child. And he is no doubt very proud of his “education”. But that is just proof of a thoroughgoing indoctrination.

    BobStewartatHome (c24491)

  147. As much as I think you’re overstating the point, BobStewartatHome – just because 70s Pasadena wasn’t as bad as the 50s South doesn’t mean there wasn’t segregation – it’s the same one I was making. We’re all products of our educations.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  148. And Trump is way more than a slob, Hoagie. He’s the exact sort of statist power-monger that you claim to detest. Y’all are gonna learn that the hard way.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  149. I still can’t figure out how the idea that the government should be in charge of teaching your children was sold to the American people. Really? You want me to entrust the most important development of young impressionable minds to an organization that operates by force and intimidation? Then, once you gain legal control over my children you unionize into one common mind toward one common goal? But that’s not good enough so you outlaw prayer in school, the teaching of religion and the mere mention of God by claiming such is the same as the federal government declaring Lutheran to be the national religion and people buy it?

    This is Libthink:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3Ebu7Ror8Ng/WGfYkLf4xNI/AAAAAAABdlw/DxTi0-bRlFI1HI5PvNxLdLRpEOOVhiuPwCLcB/s640/tumblr_ohn3zpYMFN1s9od7wo1_500.png

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  150. I think you’re wrong about Trump, Leviticus. I don’t think he’s a statist at all and I think you’ve been watching too much MSMBC. Trump is used to being “The Boss” so he acts like one. I’m the same way…at work. You are mistaking strength for evil. I think it’s nice to have a President that actually loves America for a change and a wife who’s sight doesn’t make you want to claw out your eyes.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  151. Educating our yute is a noble mission. I see that mission continues here this morning…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  152. hah you found a meme Mr. Colonel

    look at you go

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  153. Sowell is one of the best. And he’s right. I do not understand how there exists ghettos ad abject poverty, homelessness, drugs, crime, parentless children and nobody holds the democrats ad their War on Poverty accountable. Especially when the lion’s share of these social dilemmas are in cities run by democrats for decades. Where is the accountability or can they just say pretty shot and tip-toe away like it’s not their fault?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NXNIDpN5wUc/Vp7cqe-YAGI/AAAAAAAA7JU/8ZYbqoEWIos/s1600/1ninetymilesorjqQ1rzv6rko1_540.jpg

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  154. And teh NUMBER ONE takeaway for 2016 is…

    Hillary Clinton! will never be President of the United States of America.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  155. @ Rev. Hoagie, #157:

    With respect, I don’t understand how you don’t understand.

    When people have been conditioned to look at the world in a certain way — generally due to a combination of a) lack of economic opportunity, b) miseducation by failing public schools, and c) propaganda from community organizations, news outlets, and activist churches — it is very easy to tell them that rule by the “wrong” people would be worse for them, and they need to give the “right” people power if they have any hopes of making things better. The voters, mired in a toxic stew of ignorance, poverty, and desperation, are easily led to vote counter to their best interests…all the while believing that they are doing the best thing for themselves and their future.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  156. “Trump is used to being “The Boss” so he acts like one.”

    – Hoagie

    You don’t realize the irony of this comment, do you?

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  157. At least you can watch Trump’s pretty wife while he bends over for a resurgent expansionist Soviet Union.

    Leviticus (70ca80)

  158. Soviet Union?

    Russia’s not expanding – brokedick corrupt failmerica is shrinking. NATO’s a joke, albeit a very expensive one. The EU’s committing a glorious and immensely entertaining suicide.

    All Russia has to do is abide and try not to make too much fun of everybody.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  159. it is, it had reduced to the size pre peter the great, it’s a cyclical thing,

    narciso (d1f714)

  160. I did not get the irony.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  161. It’s ironic cause of how pretty his wife is instead of being a grimacing sacky.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  162. “The Boss” was Mussolini’s nickname.

    Leviticus (0072ff)

  163. oh.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  164. 166… and Frazer Smith was the Boss With The Hot Sauce… and so on… and so on…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  165. wow.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  166. I did no know that Mussolini had The Boss as a nick name all I ever heard was Il Duce which means “the leader”. Odd, all those years growing up in South Philly, all my Italian friends, girlfriends and owning all those Italian restaurants I somehow missed that. I learn something new every day. Thank you. Happy New Year.

    But I won’t miss this one when she’s gone, happyfeet.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-z-NHM_eLSj8/WGarlPsezHI/AAAAAAABdic/nwehAs12g6wgTR-LShEfssXpiCVdr7w7QCLcB/s1600/dXXQe8t.jpg

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  167. hah you did a rhymer!

    2016’s going out with pronounced pizazzle and an applebee’s appetizer sampler platter for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  168. “The Boss” was Mussolini’s nickname.
    Leviticus (0072ff) — 12/31/2016 @ 11:59 am

    And Bruce Springster. What’s yer point?

    felipe (023cc9)

  169. Mr. Reverend that woman, I hope someday she finds happiness i really do

    she got off on the wrong foot in life

    bad schools

    married down

    still lives with her mom

    get it together honey

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  170. How ’bout The Main Boy With The Joy Toy!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  171. ok so you were probably wondering what the new year’s cocktail’s gonna be

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  172. it’s fancy!

    but simple

    kinda like our new first lady

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  173. we’re gonna make a pink gin

    more or less

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  174. ok here’s what you need poopers

    gin

    white sugar

    angostura

    an egg

    cardamom

    no garnish we’re not that effing fancy

    here’s what we do now

    2 ounces of gin a half teaspoon of sugar go into your shaker and you dissolve up that sugar (if you actually have plymouth gin (a href=”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Gin#/media/File:2008-06-18_GreatBritain_Plymouth_GinFactory.jpg”>adorbs pic you can skip the sugar)

    ok now separate an egg white on the side and stir a pinch and a half or so of the cardamom into it – you want to infuse the egg white with the cardamom as much as you can but you don’t have to get all obsessey about it

    ok poopers you’re doing good so far

    now add ice to your shaker as well as the eggwhite cardamom

    now shake like your whole goddamn life depended on it (this is necessary for the egg white to play its essential part)

    ok throw it in a coupe or what have you I’m not picky

    now poopers this is the part where you need to get your mom to supervise

    pour a nice teaspoon and a bit more of the angostura into a bigger mixing spoon and hold it over a burner (if you don’t have a burner then throw it in something and just light it on fire)

    warning when you light it on fire it will have flames coming off it

    dump the flaming mixture into the coupe!

    HAPPY NEW YEAR YOU GUYS!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  175. adorbs pic

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  176. I thought the closest equivalent in Italian was capo.

    As il capo di tutti capi….. Google agrees with me.

    Duce means leader, from the Latin word that gave us duke.

    But I think a lot of Trump supporters are looking for a Duce, a man who shows strength and aggression on behalf of the “people” and the “nation”.

    And given that Trump wants government solutions for almost everything, he’s a statist.

    And you voted for him, knowing that.

    Kishnevi (1c16da)

  177. ok so some education for you now

    the pinkie comes from the british navy, what would take the bitters for seasickness and render it a bit more palatable with the gin

    but the fire comes from a fun place indeed

    please to introduce yourself to Mr. Charles Cedric Dickens

    he’s the most charming person ever in the whole whirl, so it behooves you to make his acquaintance

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  178. So a cocktail for which I need a fire extinguisher handy?

    I’ve been dealing with a sinus infection all week. Tylenol and early bedtime for me…

    Kishnevi (1c16da)

  179. oh poor monkey i hope you feel better

    were i nearer I’d be happy to come by and fix you up with this delightful concoction (i am highly trained) but i am in chicago

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  180. ugh ugh ugh abort abort

    ok we have to amend the recipe

    you can’t infuse the cardamom into the eggwhite

    just mix a pinch of it in with the sugar and gin and shake shake shake before adding the white

    then is many beautiful

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  181. Duce is Duke from the Latin Dux. It’s a good dog name, as is Rex which means King. Duke and Rex, Putin’s pets.

    nk (dbc370)

  182. Capo is derived from head and is closer in meaning to chief. It can also mean cape like Batman wears. A better word is padrone which is master or owner, and an even better one is borchia which is the stud in a herd i.e. “alpha male”.

    nk (dbc370)

  183. Google made me think borchia = boss or stud in the sense of stud used in walls, etc.

    Kishnevi (86e9bc)

  184. In French its caid, in the milieu, in Russian its vor with the ultimate one is czar, now putin is an oprichnik but he sees himself as the former.

    narciso (d1f714)

  185. And Donaldo “Il toupet” and i tre consigliare (Conway, Bannon, Pence) fits better.

    Kishnevi (86e9bc)

  186. Happy 2017 to everyone. May it turn out better than I think it will.

    Kishnevi (86e9bc)

  187. I wondered if it was the etymology of Borgia, Kishnevi.

    nk (dbc370)

  188. No lo crew, the borgia were Spanish.

    narciso (d1f714)

  189. @Leviticus:Couple A asks for a wedding cake. Baker provides it.

    Couple B asks for a wedding cake. Baker refuses to provide it.

    According to Gabriel Hanna, this does not constitute a refusal of service to Couple B.

    You keep on lying, it’s been working so well at winning over the audience, isn’t it. Because bother they and I know that this is not what happened, and they can read what I wrote and see that it does not match the words you attributed to me.

    In real life, as opposed to your lie, couple A asked for a service the baker had no religious objection to providing as part of his business. Couple B asked for a different service which that baker had a religious objection to providing as part of his business. It did not matter if couple B was gay or straight, they would have been refused in either case. If couple A were gay or straight, they would have been accommodated in either case.

    If the truth was on your side, you would not need to lie about what happened.

    You HAVE to lie because the baker’s First Amendment rights are so obviously violated when you state the true case.

    If B had asked for what A had asked for, B would have walked out with a cake. B

    Gabriel Hanna (51348d)

  190. Louise mensch seems to have gotten into the port early, heat street is like a slow moving carwreck with nice rims.

    narciso (d1f714)

  191. 111. Locke (b6a193) — 12/30/2016 @ 2:10 pm

    Explain the constitutionality of allowing your neighbors veto power over your rights.

    response with bated breath.

    It’s not veto power, or not very easily, because the people are not pre-selected.

    The Supreme Court in Heller said

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/554/570/opinion.html

    Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. .. Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[Footnote 26]

    So it’s not much of a stretch to say that commercial sales could be limited to taking place only under certain conditions..

    The truth is, the Supreme Court had it all wrong. the People means an organized body. Bit even according to District of Columbia v. Heller 554 U.S. 570 (2008)theer shouldn’t really be trouble with this. Heller does have a problem is explaining why any kind of explosives and even nuclear weapons should not be freely available. The only logical boundary you can find is that Congress can limit what can be manufactured and sold freely, but what is anufactured for general sale must generally be available.

    Sammy Finkelman (7cd5f4)


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