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12/24/2016

A Merry Christmas Eve Round-up

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:02 pm



[guest post by Dana]

It couldn’t be this close to Christmas without someone causing a stir about Christianity. Consider the claim of former Southern Baptist Convention president Charles Stanley’s son:

“If somebody can predict their own death and resurrection, I’m not all that concerned about how they got into the world,” Andy Stanley said in a Dec. 4 sermon at North Point Community Church, which draws 36,000 attendees across six locations in suburban Atlanta. “Christianity doesn’t hinge on the truth or even the stories around the birth of Jesus. It hinges on the resurrection of Jesus.”

(Oh bother. If both the virgin birth and resurrection did not take place (as God said it would), then God wouldn’t have been God. Further, without the virgin birth, there wouldn’t be the Son of God, and without the Son of God, there wouldn’t be the Savior, and without the Savior, we’re all screwed and might as well throw in the towel.)

Then there’s this bit of amateurish Christmas trolling by Mathew Dowd of ABC News:

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Immigrants. Mangers. It would have been helpful if the Chief Political Analyst had actually read some source material beforehand:

Luke 2New American Standard Bible (NASB)

2 Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all [a]the inhabited earth. 2 [b]This was the first census taken while [c]Quirinius was governor of Syria. 3 And everyone was on his way to register for the census, each to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, 5 in order to register along with Mary, who was engaged to him, and was with child. 6 While they were there, the days were completed for her to give birth. 7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a [d]manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

On a serious note, as Christians celebrate the birth of the Divine Love, here is a beautiful story about a 73-year romance, and the wife who is readying herself to say good-bye to her husband who is receiving end-of-life care:

For 73 years — through wars in Europe and Asia and civil rights battles at home, through the assassination of a president and the rise of rock-and-roll — they shared a bed.

He’d be gone sometimes, flying missions during World War II and the Korean and Vietnam wars, but he always came back to her.

So now, as he lies in a hospital bed unable to say or do much, she lies beside him.

Like many hospitals, Fort Belvoir Community Hospital, where retired Army Col. George Morris, 94, is receiving end-of-life care, allows family members to sleep in a patient’s room on a foldout couch. But for George’s wife, Eloise, 91, a cancer survivor who has suffered two broken hips and a broken shoulder, that would be hard.

So the hospital made a special exception when they admitted him this month: They admitted her as a patient, too — a “compassionate admission,” their doctor calls it. Standard rooms are normally private, but Eloise’s hospital bed was rolled in and pushed up against George’s — a final marriage berth for a husband and wife who met as teenagers in rural Kentucky in the late 1930s.

May Col. Morris’s passage from this life to the next be peaceful, and may God keep Eloise enveloped in His love.

Finally, if you’re looking to add a little more merry to your Christmas celebration, consider making what is supposedly George Washington’s eggnog recipe:

“One quart cream, one quart milk, one dozen tablespoons sugar, one pint brandy, pint rye whiskey, pint Jamaica rum, pint sherry — mix liquor first, then separate yolks and whites of 12 eggs, add sugar to beaten yolks, mix well. Add milk and cream, slowly beating. Beat whites of eggs until stiff and fold slowly into mixture. Let set in cool place for several days. Taste frequently.”

Talk about a jingle-bell rock!!

–Dana

141 Responses to “A Merry Christmas Eve Round-up”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (d17a61)

  2. oh you pooper

    you wait til the liquor stores are all closed then bust out with the recipe

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. that’s weird though he doesn’t have any holiday spices

    i just got like a metric ton of cardamom cause I never played with it before

    we’re making this third whirl peasant dessert tomorrow

    it’s the only thing we’re making ourselves we had deliveries all day

    the dessert is 100% dependent on my coffee grinder being able to make powder out of my costco almonds i got from jet.com

    it’ll be fun to try

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Merry Christmas Dana and all.

    Diwd does have a taste for shoe leather.

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. happyfeet,

    I felt a warm glow from just reading the recipe!

    Dana (d17a61)

  6. I’m eagerly awaiting Matthew Dowd’s insistence that Saudi Arabia accept immigrants! (ROTFLMAO)
    How about Iran?
    … uh, then maybe China???

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  7. “if Christ had not risen, our faith would be in vain”
    Or something very similar can be found in Paul’s Epistles (I won’t pretend to be word perfect), with no mention of birth, virgin or otherwise, so I would plead apostolic precedent in young Stanley’s favor.

    And a sadder story similar to yours I came across today.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couple-married-64yrs-grasp-each-9508936

    Looking for it with Google, I noticed at least two other similar couples, one in South Dakota, one in Kentucky, in recent years, although they did not pass at Christmastide. So perhaps it’s not so unusual as we may think.

    Kishnevi (417b3c)

  8. Dana is it possible that bozos got it wrong, Stanley mention Luke 1:27 after all.

    narciso (d1f714)

  9. i’m intrigued by the sherry especially

    which one would be the george washington one i wonder

    i’m a circle back on this for next year for sure

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. for christmas i wanted to send my lil brudder all the new garth brooks on amazon

    you wouldn’t believe what a ridiculously convoluted operation that would be

    it would take like seven thousand laborious clicks on both ends

    it really makes you wonder what the turdlord does all day

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. Kishnevi,

    I recently went to the funeral of a friend’s dad. He and his wife had been married 64 years. It’s been about two months since he passed, and his wife is utterly bereft and lost in grief. She has lost a tremendous amount of weight, and struggles all day, every day. Her family has cocooned her in love and care, but there are just parts of the journey that must be made alone. I can only hope and pray that God graciously lets my spouse and I go together, and peacefully so.

    Dana (d17a61)

  12. don’t worry, mr happyfeet, despite all the clicks required at the amazon jungle, we can take refuge in the fact that mr donald’s going to be the big cheese on january the 20th rather than that nasty not-so-smelling-nice woman who resides behind a tall gate in chappaqua.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  13. it really is a splendid christmas beyond all hopes and imaginings Mr. CS

    we’re truly blessed, and it’s humbling

    we don’t deserve Mr. Trump, but if we all work really hard, maybe one day we can say yes yes we are indeed worthy of such a president

    this isn’t a dream we could have dreamed a mere year ago

    it’s hard to breathe sometimes when I think of the grand sweep of destiny what’s brought us to this special moment

    silent night

    holy night

    all is calm

    all is bright

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. Remember. I was a Trumper when Trumpin wasn’t cool.

    Liquor stores are still open here. Thanks Dana.

    Merry Christmas

    papertiger (c8116c)

  15. Europe did not deserve the Black Plague, either. Sometimes things just work out that way.

    Merry Christmas to all you Christians, and Happy Chanukah to all you Jews, and all you others have a nice day.

    nk (dbc370)

  16. Catapulting rats into trading posts in the Ukraine, held by genoa no way to run a rail road.

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. How exactly were Joseph & Mary “immigrants“?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  18. Best not to consider that bit of category error, cs in other awkward news ah delgado?

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Merry Christmas. And a happy new year. Because we all deserve it.

    Ag80 (74f940)

  20. Amen, ago.

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. Focusing on the wiz-bang miracle at the end, whether one wants to admit it or not, is partly about never needing to examine the teachings along the way. There’s some pretty strict and harsh stuff in the Gospels, eh? Lots of judging. Standards. All of which is garlic to the progressive vampires.

    Merry Christmas, Dana! Merry Christmas to all!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  22. Dowd uses the word “immigrant” incorrectly. Joseph, Mary and Jesus temporarily became refugees later on in the story when they left for Egypt to escape Herod, but they had no plans to stay permanently, and indeed left Egypt for home 3-4 years later after Herod was dead.
    All of the hardships portrayed were due to government oppression (scarce lodging, long journey) over tax registration.
    I don’t recall any mention of hardship in Egypt for the family.

    Dowd defended himself by appealing to all the scholars and ministers who agree with him that the family were immigrants. He must mean Father Pflegler and Rev. Wright.

    steveg (5508fb)

  23. A better word than refugee for their circumstance might be “sojourned” because they had the full faith that they’d be called home

    steveg (5508fb)

  24. Mary and Joseph couldn’t even find anyone to bake them a cake to celebrate their union.

    Pinandpuller (fc4aa1)

  25. I like the King James Luke best:

    And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.

    There is no sense in which Joseph and Mary were “immigrants” or “refugees” as we use the word. They went to Bethlehem because the tax for Joseph could only be paid in the city in which Joseph was born. When they went to Egypt they were moving from one Roman province to another Roman province.

    If both the virgin birth and resurrection did not take place (as God said it would)

    When did God say “virgin birth”? The prophecy is “A young woman is with child and she will bear a son, and will call his name Immanuel.” There is a Hebrew word meaning “virgin” that was not used there.

    Gabriel Hanna (14083c)

  26. The real reason Mary and Joseph didn’t stay in the inn was because Herod’s daughter was staying there and Mary caused a huge scene.

    Pinandpuller (fc4aa1)

  27. Twenty years ago P. J. O’ Rourke called out a Democrat who was using the Nativity story to make a point about homelessness, which was equally ignorant as trying to use it to make a point about refugees or immigrants.

    Gabriel Hanna (14083c)

  28. Liberals never get the notion that perhaps a tax cut for Mary and Joseph was in order.

    And on a modern day Christmas note, the nice Hindu man I buy my gas from wished me a Merry Christmas unprompted.

    If all the Muslims we are importing can’t get down like that maybe they need to stay home.

    Pinandpuller (fc4aa1)

  29. Merry Christmas!

    Happy Holidays shall be hereafter restricted to Bing Crosby’s rendition from Holiday Inn (1941), replete with the 3rd verse vocalization that has been erased from history due to PC overreach (hint: Father Time and Baby New Year and unfortunately Googling doesn’t render back an image).

    urbanleftbehind (804d37)

  30. I looked at thec25:00 mark and didn’t see the telltale snippet.

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. Washed from history as it were.

    urbanleftbehind (804d37)

  32. Let us rejoice for He is born.

    NJRob (43d957)

  33. The only time progressives speak nicely about the Nativity scene is when they’re attempting to invoke another one of their nutty left wing allegories.
    Interesting how they never give lectures to Muslim countries about adjusting their immigration policies or about religious pluralism.
    Certainly, they could come up with a fun allegory for Iran or Saudi Arabia involving a magic carpet ride! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  34. the google christmas logo thinger not only suggests that 8 years of food stamp and his vicious job raping have led us into squalid socks-for-christmas poverty

    but also that we should be happy for it

    wtf is wrong with these people

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. Merry Christmas to Patrick and Dana and all the gang here!

    I love this for a Christmas message. http://www.wsj.com/articles/christmas-eve-in-space-and-communion-on-the-moon-1482526483

    Patricia (5fc097)

  36. This morning discovered Jimmy Kimmel celebrity ‘mean tweets’. My favorites so far.

    If that gross ratty old man George Clooney can find a girl… you regular fellas out there in the twitterverse must be drowning in pu**y.

    I hope you have a great weekend! Except you, Lisa Kudrow. F**k you

    My mom bought new conditioner and it sucks it isn’t even conditioning my hair I blame Obama
    A 30 rack of Coor’s light is $23 now at Sun Stop. Thanks Obama.

    Hope you’re all having a wonderful Christmas!

    Except you, Lisa Kudrow.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  37. 25 years ago George Clooney was synonymous with Ted McGinley as a show killer.

    urbanleftbehind (804d37)

  38. What could Lisa Kudrow have done to prompt that kind of reaction from @ ryanoflan?

    I find Lisa the most delightful ambassador of the Kudrow klan, personally.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  39. George W. Bush got his Christmas wish: from now on everything is Trump’s fault.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  40. And thirty years ago, he was in the sequel to attack of the killer timati

    narciso (d1f714)

  41. As Charlton Heston once said about George Clooney, “Sometimes class does skip a generation.”
    (Heston had been friendly with George’s late Aunt Rosemary Clooney.)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  42. Refugees of progressive wars?

    n.n (2878a9)

  43. Does anyone actually consider the Islamic State to be comparable to the Soviet juggernaut?

    re: progressive wars

    Social justice adventures, mass abortions, trials of reformed dictators (and American ambassadors) by sodomy, and immigration “reform” that may end with Russian intervention and the cooperation of a new American administration to confront the leftists who seek to harm and displace native populations.

    Make life, not abortion.

    n.n (2878a9)

  44. gravity was the most witless movie ever human ping pong balls in space with the most unappealing incarnation of sandra bullock in history and george clooney is a believable astronaut only if all the other astronauts die and the space station’s gay cabana boy has to save the day

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. Everyone get the Christmas presents they needed?

    A sidelight, on the Chanukah side of the aisle
    http://dorfberger.blogspot.com/2016/12/a-story-i-never-thought-id-read.html

    Kishnevi (e93d54)

  46. Mr George Cloo-less makes Richard Simmons seem like a middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  47. Pastor was not amused with what he understood Stanley had said.

    narciso (d1f714)

  48. Compared with some of clooney’s other nquest, amal would seem a step down

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. i wonder if the reason obama is sticking it hard deep and viciously to the jews is cause he’s leaving office and stinkypig lost and the saudi royal perverts are left with a handful of warm poop

    he must feel just awful

    he’s trying to help them slaughter as many yemeni children as he can right up until he goes

    and he’s grandiosely promising his pervy saudi terror-loving slicked-up butt-friends that forever and ever we won’t drill our own oil

    but the saudi perv trash were really counting on stinkypig to rape the american oil industry way way more

    and now where are they?

    their idiot pedophile prince has squandered over a trillion dollars in yemeni child-slaughter monies and lost income from an ill-conceived attack on Texas and North Dakota oil jobs

    sticking it to the jews is one of the only things in life they can really take pleasure in anymore

    well, that and young boys

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. Both are favors to the kingdom pikachu, of course who has won in this conflict, three guesses.

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. lube manufacturers?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. My favorite Christmas gift is knowing that neither that nasty Barack or nasty Hillary will be President after January 20.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  53. The varsity players, aqap

    narciso (d1f714)

  54. oh right

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  55. Your mileage may vary, meanwhile tortes a kerfluffle over the Irnc’s statement.

    narciso (d1f714)

  56. R.I.P. George Michael

    Icy (354ab8)

  57. Matthew Dowd’s “please forgive me if I made any mistakes” [IF???] was pretty much just as lame as his original posts — as well as his claim that he ‘was not being political’.

    Icy (354ab8)

  58. He likes to chew his shoe leather, till its tender.

    narciso (d1f714)

  59. A few 2 cents worth,

    It is certainly true that some of the details as to the actual date of birth and how many wise men visited, when, and if any rode an elephant (never heard that one before) don’t matter that much,
    and Paul and the other apostles in their preaching stress that Jesus rose from the dead as central to their message,
    but I presume that if indeed Jesus was a historical figure whose controversy was known,
    it would not have been important for the apostles to talk about his birth;
    that said, I think basic doctrine as laid out by Paul in Romans does pretty much hinge on the idea that Jesus was sinless, and able to pay the debt of death for the sins of someone other than Himself,
    and that the only way for that to happen was to be of divine nature as well as human.
    whatever point Stanley was trying to make and whether the kerfuffle is a fuss about nothing idk, I am not going to devote time to it.

    My understanding is that at times OT prophecy is interpreted (by Christians, at least) as having “layers” of fulfillment, the most clear example being that of Jesus saying that John the Baptist was in some way Elijah returning, but also in Revelation there is another Elijah-figure before the “Day of the Lord” when He returns in judgement.
    One person explained it as “looking at mountaintops in the distance”, things look close together that are really quite widely separated. I was told that was a consensus idea, not just his own thinking. I never went to seminary, idk.
    I think it is understood that Isaiah’s prophecy had a near-term fulfillment (I think under Hezekiah, or Hezekiah himself) and then again with Jesus.

    As far as being refugees at some point,
    well,
    they did have to flee their homeland for political asylum and save their lives from a tyrant ruler,
    that they were able to go to a neighboring land that was within the same empire,
    even though a different culture and different local ruler who was not out to kill them,
    still sounds pretty much like being a refugee to me.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  60. that they were able to go to a neighboring land that was within the same empire,

    By that definition a person moving from California to Texas is a “refugee”. Actually that could be true. Never mind.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  61. If the governor of CA was out to execute somebody, but Texas wouldn’t bother extraditing them once they pitched their tent, then yeah.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  62. No its clearly category error, and that was not the message he intended,
    One is reminded that luther noted that granting favor to someone born in a town of little note, far from the metropolis of Jerusalem was the thing.

    narciso (d1f714)

  63. I mentioned the Jerusalem star presentation and how it identified all the signs that coincided in the blessed event.

    narciso (d1f714)

  64. MD

    My point regarding refugee status was more about the voice of God.
    In my view, if God tells me to haul my sorry butt to the Yukon, then I am not a refugee.
    My refuge is in God, not a border. Somebody will give me a job, or maybe I’ll come across a moose that got clipped by a semi…

    steveg (5508fb)

  65. steveg
    I see your point and can agree with that.

    The point I was making, which I think is not contradictory, just different, is that in His humanity, Jesus as a baby needed to be taken by his parents and flee for their lives at the threat of a ruthless tyrant, whether it was a local jurisdiction or a national border made no difference.
    And one can say that the safest place to be is listening to God and going where He tells one to go. I agree with that too, but one could say that his family could identify with the plight of a refugee family from a human point of view,
    with the emphasis being on the tyrant ruling the land that needed to be replaced,
    not that Egypt had a bountiful safety net for refugees from Herod.
    But sometimes the safest place being in the center of the will of God is a long term thing, and in the short term sometimes one gets sawed in half.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  66. Corrie ten Boom would say, “God owns the cattle on a thousand hills, He’ll sell a few”.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  67. There is parallelism of a sort, Moses was adopted into royalty, closest parallel to caiphas daughter and became a rebel, Jesus grew in humble roots but had the lineage of royalty. We know well men of the caliber of pharaoh or herod, who would burn down an entire forest to get at a sapling

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. The war on christians continues in the phillipines.

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. Whose fault is that? The Philippines is 84% Christian (over 80% Catholic).

    You know, maybe the early church thrived on persecution but that ended with Constantine. Christianity has been the world’s dominant religion for 1,500 years and should act like it. Especially in a place like the Philippines where it outnumbers the others four to one.

    nk (dbc370)

  70. Obviously I was referring to Abu sayyaf,

    narciso (d1f714)

  71. The .45 Automatic Colt Pistol, round and guns, were specifically designed by Browning for those guys. For real.

    nk (dbc370)

  72. And that’s what I meant by Christians behaving like we’re the world’s dominant religion.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. The juramentados were a different kettle of fish.

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. A temporary traveler is NOT an immigrant.
    Someone seeking a night’s lodging is NOT a refugee.
    Two people that are obeying a government edict are neither immigrants nor refugees.
    This isn’t hard.

    Icy (53b3a4)

  75. You guys know that The Inquisition still exists under the name “Congregation For The Doctrine Of The Faith”, right?

    nk (dbc370)

  76. Not nearly the same thing, and benedict was nowhere are thorough as was needed.

    narciso (d1f714)

  77. That is certainly true, Icy,
    the question only becomes relevant when they have to flee to egypt in the middle of the night to avoid Herod’s slaughter,
    but,
    yeah,
    that was later,
    and has nothing to do with the trip to Bethlehem.

    Tyrants in the middle east that want to kill innocents.
    Some things don’t change.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  78. Benedict was in charge of it before he got poped. Don’t know which cleric heads it now.

    But that was the Papal Inquisition. The Spanish Inquisition was independent of it, usually under the control of the Spanish crown, and over time became hopelessly corrupt. It lasted, with a pause under Napoleon, until 1834. The last execution (by hanging) was about ten years before. Overall, the number of people executed compared to those who underwent some sort of trial was small: 3000 to 5000 out of about 150000.

    Kishnevi (bfcc0b)

  79. By comparison, the last execution for blasphemy in the UK was in 1697, the last for witchcraft thirty years later. Both were in Scotland. In fact, the last execution for witchcraft in England proper took place in the 1680s, several years before the Salem trials here in the US.

    Kishnevi (bfcc0b)

  80. See if they weren’t so eager to shoe horn a metaphor there would be an interesting discussion.

    narciso (d1f714)

  81. The Philippines may be 80 percent Catholic (I think that’s accurate), but a similar percentage has never owned or read a Bible. That’s a lot of food money. There is a lot of superstition mixed with the Catholicism.

    John Hitchcock (6681ab)

  82. So one considers bonnie prince Charles, the annuated Edward xvii of this age.

    narciso (d1f714)

  83. that was later,
    and has nothing to do with the trip to Bethlehem.

    — Yessir, MD. Dowd specifically referred to the nativity.

    Icy (3f6110)

  84. i hate this about Mr. Michael

    this christmas kinda sucks ass

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  85. didn’t taylor the swift low trash trailer park slag at one point remake last christmas?

    good times

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  86. what does it say about the pontifications that we can have a thread for dead hungarian slut zsa zsa but not one for Mr. Michael

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  87. nothing good

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. That’s a lot of food money.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. Duran Duran referred to the the so-called curse of 2016 – following the deaths of David Bowie, Prince and Rick Parfitt – posting on their official Twitter account: “2016 – loss of another talented soul. All our love and sympathy to @GeorgeMichael’s family.”

    wtf is a Rick Parfitt?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. this chrismass thing whatever is entirely too complicated

    i hate it

    i hate obama

    i hate the third whirl sleaze pope

    and i hate how everyone named george michael what sang about last christmas is deader than a christmas turkey

    this all happened under obama yes din’t it note it down in your effing prog trapper keeper

    i will know vengeance

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. i don’t know what the f is going on but if i were anything remotely connected to bananarama

    me i’d be gittin me affairs in order

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. this was definitely mr michael’s last christmas

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  93. and all that’s left to warm your breast’s the wine we stole tonight

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. oh hi Mr. CS

    didja hear about zsa zsa?

    such a loss

    🙁

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. mr happyfeet, bananarama’s career died a long time ago
    but they shouldn’t take chances because it could turn out to be a cruel winter

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  96. you really need to google what happened to them bananaramas

    it’s best case scenario for all three

    they’re kind gogo like that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  97. if casey kasem were still alive, he’d have to rename america’s top 40 america’s top 30 on account of so many of our pop stars dropping dead so there’s not enough songs to fill the top 40

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  98. i’m never gonna dance again

    my whole life

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. nothing looks the same in the light

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  100. i figured if one of our george pop stars would die early, it would be mr boy george rather than mr george michael

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  101. jane fonda’s going to live to be 107
    where’s the fairness in that

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  102. well u figured wrong

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  103. madonna already looks 107
    but then again she’s been dressing like a hooker since high school
    karma!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  104. mr happyfeet, keep on dancing like no one else is watching
    mr george michael’s heart may have stopped beating, but you just gotta have faith that the beat of his songs will live forever

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  105. omg this is NOT let’s be mean to madonna christmas

    it’s just not

    maybe next year

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  106. mr happyfeet, madonna ciccone’s not a nice lady
    she’s said unflattering things about mr donald
    madonna don’t preach

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  107. whaa?

    she’s as american as cheezits n caviar

    she’s from goddamn michigan hello

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  108. other than sleazy low-class cap’n ed from slimy click-bait site “hot air”

    madonna mostly gets attacked from the left

    where’ve u been

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. who said madonna’s not an american?
    i just think she’s a punk
    let’s not be asking god to damn michigan — those michigan people voted for mr donald

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  110. yes yes

    and also that’s where Mr. Kid Rock is from too

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  111. she’s still kinda awesome though btw

    she’s madonna hello

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  112. plus she’s not rotting dead stinky-flesh like george michael and zsa zsa and prince and curt cobain

    advantage: Madonna

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  113. still wondering wtf is a Rick Parfitt

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  114. *kurt* cobain i mean

    not that anyone cares

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. 81: their best Catholics are all here propping up the parishes.

    85. Taylor Swift is closet Trump voter par excellence. Dammit, those central PA voters got it right too.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  116. what does it say about the pontifications that we can have a thread for dead hungarian slut zsa zsa but not one for Mr. Michael
    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/25/2016 @ 9:34 pm

    A lot less than having a comment like that says.

    nk (dbc370)

  117. Yes Taylor’s a good gal, the least connection to Kanye the better.

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. There’s an irony that Joseph and Mary would be illegal in bethlehem, per the UN resolution.

    narciso (d1f714)

  119. I’ll tell you this, “Last Christmas” sounds a lot better coming from a girl talking to her boyfriend than it comes from a boy talking to his boyfriend. But it’s no Christmas song and I still don’t like it.

    nk (dbc370)

  120. Still on that immigrant/refugee debate? You know who was an immigrant and a war refugee? Hitler. Born in Austria; forced to move to Germany by the dissolution of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire after WWI to try and find a better life.

    nk (dbc370)

  121. So are we going to be disusing Webbie Gibson now?

    narciso (d1f714)

  122. #115 urbanleftbehind, good point about lots of Phillipino priests here in America.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  123. Webbie? The W is not even on the same row or column as the D.

    But discuss what you like. It’s a free pop culture.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. I read about a Mexican priest saying this about his parishioners: “They’re not really very good Catholics. But their faith … their faith is very strong.”

    That’s what’s important. Not how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. # 115 narcissism, according to ‘bibi’ it’s now Palestein. 🙂

    McKiernan (18153c)

  126. 122, given their large slice in the medical professions (and the postal service in CA), financially as well.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  127. 101. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 12/25/2016 @ 10:14 pm

    jane fonda’s going to live to be 107

    where’s the fairness in that

    What? Is she following the semi-secret Chinese Communist Party leadership diet, like Madame Chiang Kai Shek?

    But she lived to only 106. (March 5, 1897[2] – October 23, 2003)

    Wikipedia, though, says she might have been 107.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soong_Mei-ling

    However, early sources such as the Columbia Encyclopedia, 1960, give her date of birth as 1896, making it possible that “one year” was subtracted twice.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  128. She was probably 109. Women lie about their age.

    nk (dbc370)

  129. George Michaels and Boy George were approaching unity anyway.

    Parfitt was one of the UK’s accidental rockers. No real standout talent but traded in a good location.

    Kind of the Joey Ramone of London.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  130. People talking about how the best Filipino Catholics are in the US know nothing about the Philippines or Filipinos. Filipinos get my respect, the other group, not so much.

    John Hitchcock (6681ab)

  131. I can do it better.

    You know how in New York they’ll spray paint a chair, put it on the center of a canvas on the floor, put some velvet ropes around it, then call it an art installation?

    Parfitt was the chair in that scenario. The hoiti toiti London set mention him to prove their “underground cool” rock bonafides. Despite his lack of talent.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  132. 128. nk (dbc370) — 12/26/2016 @ 8:51 am

    She was probably 109. Women lie about their age.

    I actually remember, I think, the New York Times obituary said she was born in 1898 and the Wikipedia article also says that when you get intoit. The lead, though says 1897 with a footnote indicating it could be 1896 – except that if they start with age 1 at birth, that;s making her older.

    I checked. The New York Times indeed says 105

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/world/madame-chiang-105-chinese-leader-s-widow-dies.html

    But the Wikipedia article claims it says 106.

    Ref 3:

    Faison, Seth (October 24, 2003). “Madame Chiang Kai-shek, a Power in Husband’s China and Abroad, Dies at 106”. New York Times. Retrieved 2008-06-27…

    I don’t think the New York Times ever said 106. The article has a correction, but not about her age. The New York Times, like patterico, does not siltently correect its mistakes.

    Somebody needs to fact check Wikipedia. It’s not even citing its sources correctly. It says the New York Times gave her age as 106 when it gave her age as 105.

    Who knows if the followingis correct?

    May-ling was officially registered as a freshman at Wesleyan in 1912 at the age of 15.

    Women do lie about their age, but at that time, at that age, it was in her interest to claim to be older than what she was. Wikipedia also says:

    In 1908, Ching-ling [her next oldest sister] was accepted by her sister Ai-ling’s alma mater, Wesleyan College, at age 15 and both sisters moved to Macon, Georgia, to join Ai-ling. However, she could not get permission to stay on campus as a family member nor could she be a student because she was too young.[citation needed] May-ling spent the year in Demorest, Georgia, with Ai-ling’s Wesleyan friend, Blanche Moss, who enrolled May-ling as an 8th grader at the Piedmont College. In 1909, Wesleyan’s newly appointed president, William Newman Ainsworth, gave her permission to stay at Wesleyan and assigned her tutors. She briefly attended Fairmount College in Monteagle, Tennessee in 1910.[5][6]

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  133. they’re *kinda* gogo like that i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  134. She Chose. She Conceived. She aborted.

    The cover-up, immigration “reform”, of consequences stemming from Obama’s social justice adventurism, may be worse than the original action. The new administration will need to cooperate with Russia in order to mitigate and correct the fallout from catastrophic anthropogenic climate change.

    n.n (2878a9)

  135. Madonna actually kept her word about leaving the country when an election didn’t go as she liked.

    Lucky thing Hillary lost (although a Hillary win conditional is just implied and may not be a requirement)

    papertiger (c8116c)

  136. Flash mob Christmas Carols to clean out the cobwebs in my soul. [YouTube]

    This court keeps an open mind on the matter of Santa Claus.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  137. …Finally, if you’re looking to add a little more merry to your Christmas celebration, consider making what is supposedly George Washington’s eggnog recipe:

    DISCLAIMER! DISCLAIMER! I am not advising anyone to do anything.

    But I read the above recipe and I was reminded that George Washington was, as were many of the founding fathers, in the habit of “jacking.” As in, for example, making Apple Jack.

    It’s a form of distilling. And, again, DISCLAIMER! Possessing and using a still for the purpose of manufacturing alcoholic beverages without a license is a MAJOR felony.

    But the way jacking works is you put the wine or cider out on the porch, and the water freezes. So, you throw the ice away. And if you keep it up you end up with liquor.

    Just go to a liquor store, and get your peach brandy, OK? I’m just sharing about one of George Washington’s hobbies.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  138. So how was it Steve? I’m assuming you’ve used Jacking to make your own brandy.

    One thing is it’s supposed to concentrate wood alcohol (methanol), which is sort of poison.

    There’s supposed to be a filter you can use to separate the ethanol from the methanol.

    Hope you practice safe drinking. Not talking about driving.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  139. Methanol and ethanol have different boiling points, so if you control your still temperature you won’t get any methanol.

    But leaving cider out to freeze leaves both unfrozen.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  140. Buddy of mine in grad school made his own still. The hard part was what to do with all the ethanol. He and his friends started using for everything: general cleaning, that sort of thing, because they were making far more than they could possibly drink.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)


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