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11/11/2016

John Podesta: Big Media Gave Trump a “Pass”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:30 pm



Who’s in the bubble again?

Hillary Clinton’s inner circle gathered for an autopsy of her failed presidential campaign and concluded that media bias in favor of Donald Trump contributed to his historic win.

. . . .

“The media always covered [Mrs. Clinton] as the person who would be president and therefore tried to eviscerate her before the election, but covered Trump who was someone who was entertaining and sort of gave him a pass,” Mr. Podesta said. “We need to reflect and analyze that and put our voices forward.”

Free media for Trump absolutely contributed to his victory. But . . . they gave him a “pass”?

A “pass“???

I have considered Mr. Podesta’s claim with all due seriousness and have prepared a rebuttal. Without further ado, here is my official response to John Podesta’s claim that Big Media gave Trump a “pass”:

UPDATE: Ack! Put Hillary in the title when I meant Trump! I have fixed it.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

147 Responses to “John Podesta: Big Media Gave Trump a “Pass””

  1. I thought I was full of shit…

    Jeff Lebowski (a37897)

  2. Gave Hillary a pass but talks about Trump. Huh?

    Colonel Haiku (3bf827)

  3. Greetings:

    And the lying lips, having again lied, lied on.

    Adios Queen Tantalus.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  4. UPDATE: Ack! Put Hillary in the title when I meant Trump! I have fixed it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  5. How embarrassing!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  6. *its

    Kevin M (c133f6)

  7. Captain Tupolev Podesta loaded the media tubes, lined up the shot and hit the FIRE button. The propagandists followed his orders to a T and the SS Clinton took one in the stern as a result. I’m surprised the shrieking harridan hasn’t had him shot. I sure hope the rest of the coven is taking the earned loss with the same degree of introspection.

    They really should be reading Seppuku for Dummies.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  8. This is actually a good thing that the Democrats aren’t learning from their mistakes or their delusions.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  9. Yes, yes, the media did give Trump a pass. Particularly CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Los Angeles Times; and the worst offenders of all were Facebook, Google, and Twitter. Because they’re closet racists, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes and xenophobes and were also bought off by the Illuminati who wanted Trump to win.

    nk (dbc370)

  10. they build larger cave walls, like the journolist, encourage third rate jesters like stewart and maher, as their inkind contribution,

    narciso (d1f714)

  11. If Maloney takes 50 lashes from a whip, I might switch back to GrubHub. Screw Bezosebub

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  12. To paraphrase something I saw on the internet, I didn’t really want Trump to win but the reaction of the Clintonistas makes me almost happy he did.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. every publication short of cat fancier, (I didn’t check, they probably had an editorial) was against him, and it was like issuing encantations against death eater, totally useless,

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. BTW, a paellera is a pan/skillet for cooking paella. I suppose finding one on the beach when the tide goes out is just as unbelievable as this election was.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. Well, I think you have to admit that up until Trump won the primary, he got a pass.

    That’s because they thought he was a joke and Hillary would easily beat him.

    Bet they are regretting that.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  16. But they should not have tried to eviscerate poor Hillary. That’s a horrible thing to do and it’s also a serious crime. Have they been arrested?

    nk (dbc370)

  17. how much of the wikileaks were covered, as opposed to claims with much less foundation?

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. They were deathly scared of Cruz. Trump is still a consolation prize; in their eyes he is not as bad as Cruz.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. Just for the record:
    2008 – 58.2% turnout
    Obama – 69,498,516 votes
    McCain – 59,948,323 votes

    2012 – 54.9% turnout
    Obama – 65,915,795 votes
    Romney – 60,933,504 votes

    2016 – 55.6% turnout
    Clinton – 60,523, 087 votes
    Trump – 60,086,008 votes

    It wasn’t White racists or haters who elected Trump….the Republican vote has been consistent over the last three elections. The 9 million missing Democratic voters elected Trump.

    gahrie (12cc0f)

  20. gahrie,

    The actual record won’t be established until the final tabulations are complete in December. Your premise will probably be proven correct but the final California numbers are going to change the disparity considerably.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  21. so how illegal and criminals in that tally, and what was the difference between the coastal vote, and the interior one in the pewter state, no other base metal applies,

    narciso (d1f714)

  22. Cruz was too much of H.S. debate clubber, he doesnt get the default white athlete and 50% of black athletes. He wasnt as “spicy” as Rubio, so no considerable voter substitution would have happened in NV-CO-NM-IL. The missing voters, among them the many rust belt blacks that didnt have a Kim Foxx in the race, did Clinton in. And who knows to what degree Carson from Detroit and Blackwell from Ohio had in that strategem. I imagine Omarossa Manigault probably got the Haitian-Ams in FLA in line once the Clinton Foundation boondogle was laid out there (plus the there is a sort of Cuban-Haitian alliance in that areas’ underworld).

    As for the Dems they need the equivalent of the short blond boy from the Bad News Bears or the a John Cooper from his 1st year at tOSU to run the party. Someone to say there’s too much this and not enough of that and do things differently.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  23. And here is the main part of the medias problem: they are anti white racists.

    God must have a sense of humor to put up with what we do to ourselves.

    Or maybe the election was used to teach us some lessons — about ourselves.

    We learned election night, if we didn’t already know it in our heart of hearts, that we are not the inclusive, multiracial and multicultural country we make ourselves out to be. Despite projecting the image of a United States embodying a kumbaya-like spirit of human unity, our identities are rooted in race, religion and ideology. That showed up in the election returns. It could be seen in the faces of Trump’s core constituencies.

    And don’t think of them as only old, Rust Belt, blue-collar supporters.

    White people made Trump president.

    He ran the table in virtually all categories, including college- and non-college-educated white men, and whites 18 to 29 years old.

    That racist, anti American message was taken from the link by Kevin M from the Washington Post. Someone needs to explain to me why it is somehow immoral for white people in a white country to vote for their best interests.

    This anti American pig has the nuts to say: “we are not the inclusive, multiracial and multicultural country we make ourselves out to be.” Really? And just what country on this earth is more tolerant of other cultures than we? Saudi Arabia? Japan? Turkey? These bigots make me sick. People who think like this really should leave.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  24. well it’s more of an issue of ‘false consciousness’ but ultimately it’s about ‘dissolving the people, and electing another in their place’

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. I don’t mind them thinking that, Hoagie. Yes, this is how white people “riot”, Mr. King.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. 25, and what if JFK took a less dismissive view whilst planning Bay of Pigs and it actually succeeded?

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  27. yes, had he kept the landing site at trinidad, the vendee of the cuban revolution, much would have changed,

    https://medium.com/@mtracey/we-must-demand-pundit-accountability-8a6a45614e4f#.fib5kom52

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. …but does the C-A community migration stall (not that was ever a continual mass wave) and is the future consisting of a restored republic or of U.S. territoriality/statehood?

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  29. in light of tracey’s analysis, it’s a wonder how any facts got out, every center right outlet, seems to have gone in for an invasive critique of trump, and a cursory look at red queen,

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. probably, camarioca, which was the big air bridge, opened in 65 and ended in 69, the former was around the time the escambray, the counterpart to the ukraine was conquered,

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. Actually it worked for us.

    For months now if I wanted to hear or read something positive about Trump I’d have to do say or write it myself, with some few exceptions. Fellow Trumpets here and a few at Hotair.

    THe narrative being the election is rigged It helps that long time “reliable” GOP sites are full throated Trump critics.

    Congrats homies.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  32. conceivably, but it became a sisyphean task, to ignore or rebut every ridiculous notion, that the rizotto tray carriers were coming up with,

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. There I was told I’d be blamed for Trump losing, now papertiger’s crediting me for Trump winning. You’re welcome, papertiger, glad to have been of help.

    nk (dbc370)

  34. I didn’t even particularly like trump, as I’ve made clear, but it got silly enough for zombie graham chapman to show up, because much of the same forces couldn’t stomach cruz either, they wanted the medici or rubio or mailman’s son, like the abominable snowman wanted bugs,

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. @nk:They were deathly scared of Cruz.

    No they weren’t. Hillary’s list of dream opponents was Cruz, Trump, Carson, in that order.

    I voted for Cruz, but I can see now he’d have lost hard. We don’t have definitive information about who voted for Trump, but from what we do know now it seems very unlikely he could have assembled the voters that Trump did.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  36. it’s an interesting tapestry that has been woven about this country, cruz might not have been able to get this warp or that wool,

    narciso (d1f714)

  37. seriously what do people know for certain in this country?

    narciso (d1f714)

  38. Gabriel, you know and I know that Trump’s core supporters were never going to vote for some Mexican named Cruz, but the Left does not think that way. To them, being a “Latino” is almost as good as being a woman or black.

    nk (dbc370)

  39. Pass, punt or kick, the clock ran out and it’s game over, fella.

    Hit the showers.

    “Soon your past will be as nonexistent as your future.” -“M” [Judi Dench] ‘Skyfall’ 2012

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  40. he was a very pale texan, with the twang to boot, maybe had he tried to appeal to what sabo saw in him,

    narciso (d1f714)

  41. Nk yep thanks for being you.

    papertiger (7382aa)

  42. I don’t care about stuff, like that but there are a lot of superficial people who do, and yet buy razorback’s cornpone delivery,

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. @nk:Trump’s core supporters were never going to vote for some Mexican named Cruz,

    They voted for Obama in 2012. You can’t make the Nazi-Klan thing stick anymore, there aren’t enough of them to deliver 300-ish electoral college votes.

    Guy here in my town had Bernie signs until Hillary was nominated, then replaced them with Trump.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  44. Then Cruz could have won, so what was your previous comment all about?

    nk (dbc370)

  45. @nk:Then Cruz could have won, so what was your previous comment all about?

    He wouldn’t have won. They’d have voted for a Latino, but not Rubio or Cruz.

    Trump won the Reagan Democrats.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  46. Here’s the thing, nk, you can’t explain how Trump got a higher share of minority votes with racism or Nazism–not unless you want to tar Romney with that brush too, who did less well with them than Trump.

    I know think Trump is awful–I agree. I know you think some of his supporters were awful–and I agree about those people, who might number in the hundreds. But he didn’t win with Klansmen and Nazis. He won with the votes in a broad swath of the electorate that Romney and McCain couldn’t get, and that’s the simple fact.

    I don’t know how many Trump voters you find deplorable, maybe 5%, maybe all 48%, I don’t know. But who would that 5% – 47% have voted for if Trump had not been nominated? You think they’d have voted Hillary? They’d have been voting for the R, like they have ever since there weren’t any segregationist Democrats to vote for.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  47. And if you think they’d have stayed home if the nominee had been Cruz or Rubio, or turned out for Hillary, but since it was Trump they were the ones who put Trump over–well then you are conceding that Rubio or Cruz could not have one. The math doesn’t work any other way.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  48. there would seem to some indication of that, now would pence be able to succeed in four or eight years?

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. Trump’s popular vote totals are consistent with McCain’s and Romney’s. the story isn’t who Trump attracted.

    The issue is the 9 million voters that the Democrats have lost since 2008.

    gahrie (12cc0f)

  50. but why is that, because democratic policies since 2008, have gone pearshaped,

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. Thank you, gahrie.

    nk (dbc370)

  52. @Gahrie:The issue is the 9 million voters that the Democrats have lost since 2008.

    It’s not 9 million because all the popular vote isn’t in.

    Maybe we’ll find all the Nazis and Klansmen in it.

    Maybe 12 million #NeverTrumps stayed home.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  53. o paraphrase the late John Candy in “JFK”, WHAT IT WAS WAS AN FBI COUP D’ETAT!”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/sidney-blumenthal-right-wing-fbi-agents-took-down-hillary-in-a-coup-detat-video/

    Dead dope fiend/lousy punk bassist/possible murderer Sid Vicious now has good legal cause from beyond the grave against Sid Blumenthal for damaging his reputation.

    A few crazy idea-your candidate was a total crook snd sucked. And telling Rust Belt coal miners you were going to make them unemployed was well short of brilliant. Also, an old white lady coupled with what ever weird thing Tim Kaine is will not turn out African-Americans like The One did.

    When your enemies are holding a circular firing squad…

    Bugg (820f2c)

  54. It is absolutely certain that millions of Hillary’s “missing” Democratic totals are actually found in Trump’s total.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  55. That’s the thing, most people who vote don’t vote for one party one election do not go on to vote the same party their whole lives. Roughly 30% of the electorate doesn’t consistently vote one way or another.

    That “missing” 9 million were not “Hillary’s”. A fraction of them, we don’t know how many, are people who might have voted for another D, but not her. But another fraction of them, we don’t know how many, voted for Trump in 2016 instead of Obama in 2012.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  56. I think the medium piece, by a guy who was suspended from vice, from pointing out the truth about lena dunham, she might as well be colin kaepernick,

    narciso (d1f714)

  57. In 2012, only 120 million votes had been counted by Wednesday after Election Day, but the final total was 130 million. There are millions of votes yet remaining to count. My state won’t certify until November 29 and as of tonight has 500K votes yet to count.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  58. 46. What the hell kind of a Latino could have won that bloc? Even a Sheriff Clarke ish kind might struggle.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  59. along with the robert mccain piece, that also slaughters sacred cows,

    narciso (d1f714)

  60. @urbanleftbehind:What the hell kind of a Latino could have won that bloc?

    A centrist Democrat–in other words what we’ve all here accused Trump of being.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  61. I heard an interview on Hugh Hewitt a few months back with a campaign reporter who had maintained a bit of objectivity, and one of the questions was “Why?” Why were so many campaign reporters and political reporters so in the tank for Clinton.

    And his answer was pretty simple, and it exposes the sheer idiocy of Podesta’s comments. The guest said “A lot of the people covering the campaign either on the trail, or writing regularly about it for their publications, missed out in 2008 when America elected the first African-American President. There’s a large group of reporters who are determined to not miss out on the story when American elects its first female President.”

    They are largely sympathetic with Dem politics, but it was the “historic” nature of her certain triumph that they all wanted to be a part of, and share a hand in writing the history of the campaign.

    Hewitt asked him if he knew whether any reporters were planning on writing books about a Clinton victory after the election, and he said he couldn’t count them all using the fingers of both hands.

    The idea that the campaign press corps and political talking heads/hacks were out to sink her is ROTFLMFAO funny.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  62. White males without a college degree have seen their incomes decline in real terms by 14% since 2008.

    DECLINED — not just rose slower than other groups, but actually went down.

    Hannity had a caller today identify himself as 51 year old white male father of 4 from Ohio, worked in the construction industry. Had voted only 1 time in his life — for Reagan’s re-election the first time he was old enough to vote, and he only voted in that election because his dad drove him to the poll and made him vote.

    He voted for Trump. Said he has a lot of friends who are exactly the same — high school educated white male head of households who have never bothered to vote before, and they voted for Trump.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  63. Fairy tales can come true
    It can happen to you
    if you’re young at heart
    For it’s hard, you will find
    To be narrow of mind
    if you’re young at heart

    You can go to extremes
    with impossible schemes
    You can laugh when your dreams
    fall apart at the seams
    And life gets more exciting
    with each passing day
    And love is either in your heart
    or on it’s way

    Don’t you know that it’s worth
    Every treasure on earth
    to be young at heart
    For as rich as you are
    It’s much better by far
    to be young at heart

    And if you should survive
    to a hundred and five
    Look at all you’ll derive
    out of bein’ alive
    And here is the best part,
    you have a head start
    If you are among the very young at heart

    Instapudit link: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic (Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute CEI) to lead EPA Transition. I’m really starting to feel good about my vote here.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  64. “I have considered Mr. Podesta’s claim with all due seriousness and have prepared a rebuttal. Without further ado, here is my official response…”

    I, too, have considered Mr. Podesta’s claim, and my rebuttal is as follows;

    Mr. Pedestal, is your brain a Cuisinart, or what?

    C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37)

  65. Out: Conservative Principles

    In: Trumphausen By Proxy

    Colonel Haiku (3bf827)

  66. Podesta is one of those walking wraiths from I am legend, he earned his stripes knifing the likes of Robert bork,

    narciso (d1f714)

  67. Now there are some got takes from slate, guess what?

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. The electoral college is about sexism and white supremacy.

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. As the huntress don’t put your faith in politicians, however he cracked the electoral college for the first time in 12 years, so maybe cut him some slack, umkay.

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. A decade after the Reagan landslidebthey came up with the October surprise.

    narciso (d1f714)

  71. i’m very pleased how president trump did wins on the pig

    she’s already had to run run run to her pimp-daddy Mr. Soros for to try to feel loved and valued again

    she is so very wretched

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  72. Trump got 91% negative coverage, how is that possible?

    narciso (d1f714)

  73. apart from the rot and corruption endemic among failmerica’s sleazy epa doj irs fbi government workers

    there’s a special kind of fascism what manifests when 99% of your useless academic trash and your sleazy propaganda sluts and grubhub ceos are all pig-sniffing emotional retards

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  74. “We need to reflect and analyze that and put our voices forward.”

    Translation: Don’t blame me. I gave you one job to do and you didn’t do it.

    crazy (d3b449)

  75. They just cannot resist telling lies, can they?

    And I read that the chance meeting with Hillary walking her dogs was a set up. The woman is a campaign worker for her!

    And if white people elected him, so what? Aren’t we supposed to vote with our race these days?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  76. Greetings:

    My favorite statistic from the election is that Mrs. Clinton got 92% of the Washington D.C. vote.

    If only the District would be the first to secede.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  77. Back to the tos reports, it turned out their operating algorithm ada, was as blinkered as it’s.

    narciso (d1f714)

  78. The California Secretary of State thoughtfully provides an Unprocessed Ballot Report, the total of which stands at 4,362,087 as of 5:01PM November 10, 2016.

    Assertions regarding total vote differentials made at this point lack factual foundation. There will be fact based reporting available in mid-December and some states provide rather detailed demographic information from their voter registration files which can be used to develop a decent demographic profile of the electorate. What it can’t provide is specific information regarding the actual votes of individuals.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  79. What it can’t provide is specific information regarding the actual votes of individuals.

    Or the number of votes by deceased individuals, illegal aliens, legal alien non-citizens, felons, multiple votes by the same person, voting in multiple districts and any combination of the above.

    So basically, it’s a guess.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  80. it was a comedy of errors, it’s like they ran over black cats with a steam roller,

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/249015/

    the exit polls were blinkered, probably by a magniuted greater than 2004

    narciso (d1f714)

  81. I mean look at that last link, if there was any real satire, they would be laughed off the page, I’m not holding my breath, that could cause anoxia,

    narciso (d1f714)

  82. well we missed the superbowl and the playoffs, but we got the teams right,

    https://twitter.com/tbonier/status/797443508965699584

    narciso (d1f714)

  83. Did Bernie supporters and progressives stay home or even vote for Trump?

    We may never know for sure but it could be that NeverHillary Democrats helped elect Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  84. the initial stats turned up by mccain and tracey would suggest so,

    narciso (d1f714)

  85. Rs were a lot more hungry to do the pig all up in it than Ds were

    these times, they’re so deliciously deviant

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  86. CNN–interviews their own cameraman–during protest of Trump in Chicago. Don Lemon actually had to out them on air. I saw this live on air but got so disgusted with this guy’s rant that I switched channels before the end where Don Lemon outs him–but someone else–thankfully–caught it. (When watching this keep in mind that it was Bill Clinton who would not allow the UN to use the term “genocide” because that would have triggered certain actions by the UN to stop the genocide.)

    In this video clip CNN is advocating for the popular vote–which might have been more Republican if a Republican was running for a statewide office–in California. California during a non-incumbent general election for the highest office in the land–had no Republican running for the Senate. If North Carolina did the same thing–every media outlet would be screaming that it is voter suppression.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSfS2u-SmoI

    Danuve River Guide (2fd998)

  87. daddy slim’s insultingly smarmy paper’s just one more reason to boycott starbucks i think, if one more reason were at all needed

    which, not really

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. DRJ, the turnout numbers I’ve seen published showed that Hillary just didn’t get people out to the polls. It wasn’t clear to me that there was no crossover, i.e, that there weren’t plenty of disaffected GOP voters who abandoned HRC, and GOP who stayed home, but there really was an enthusiasm gap on her side.

    Which is not surprising, as she was always a terrible candidate, and Democrats were really just trying to power through that terrible situation.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  89. whoops, disaffected Dems, not GOP.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  90. well in a number of instances, her machinery was turning out trump voters, this is a case of systemic failure like steve schmidt’s first campaign in kentucky,

    narciso (d1f714)

  91. sleazy warren buffet rented a trolley to cart pig-sniffers to the polls

    that’s how disgusting he is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. Maybe, SarahW, but we have evidence at this website that it might have happened: DCSCA is a liberal Democrat who claimed he was NeverHillary and would vote for Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  93. Where, HF? That inner city congressional district in Omaha that is the counterpart to the swings one in ME? That seems a bit small time for someone with hobo hotel rail cars at his disposal.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  94. Thor was close to that precipice and knew many more willing to, but these were victims of no R senate candidate in CA.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  95. here’s the story of sleazy warren buffett’s pig-sniffer express [CNN link]

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  96. In Omaha, “Warren Buffett has kept his promise to drive voters to the polls on Election Day.”

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. President Trump has so many voters for to represent as he navigates these treacherous times

    meanwhile slurpy egg mcmuffin is gearing up to carry the True Conservative banner into the future for to do the Good Policies

    advantage: President Trump

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. Think of the untold billions squandered on the insane attempt to control the weather redirected toward useful purpose.

    You could build ten walls double wide on windmill money alone.

    To grasp the scope of the crime 3% of gross domestic product across the board. That’s what the climate changers have been robbing us of year in year out. The lion’s share of growth that didn’t happen during the Bush and Obama years.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  99. Think of the untold billions squandered on the insane attempt to control the weather redirected toward useful purpose.

    Mr. tiger when you nail it you really nail it

    thanks for all you do

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  100. DRJ@85
    Quite possibly so. I watched a few minutes of CNN’s coverage of the protest in Miami. The reporter made a point of saying that several of the protestors he spoke to had not voted at all, because of negative feelings towards the Democratic elite.

    Of course, I doubt we would be seeing them protesting Hillary’s election had that happened.

    Kishnevi (1e395f)

  101. This might be off-thread, but I think it is important.

    If you are an active Trump supporter, you should come up with a list of things that he could do that would cause you to no longer support him.

    I think that we need lists like this for every elected official.

    I think that nose-holding Trump supporters should do this, as well. And for the Left, they should have a list of things Trump might do that they would approve of.

    And stick by the lists.

    Otherwise we are just cheerleaders.

    Simon Jester (c63397)

  102. check items off let nothing be missed sing i to myself and my one hundred lists

    gimme a T yeah baby

    gimme an R yeah you give good R

    a U now you on fire

    an M make that pig cry

    a P now take it higher

    PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP ALL UP IN IT

    WOOT!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  103. He’s makin’ a list
    he’s checkin’ it twice
    he wants to know who’s supporting Trump
    and who’s not and therefore nice
    Simon Jester’s startin’ to frown

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  104. Jeez, CS. I have never been rude to you.

    I expect that kind of nonsense from our local turd tosser.

    Simon Jester (c63397)

  105. Well Simon.

    One thing Mr. Trump could do that would cause me to frown is work with Al Gore to fight climate change.

    Mr. Trump hiring Myron Ebell pegs the chances of that somewhere between slim and nil.

    I predict a drought in climate cash coming soon.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  106. Dump your solar panel futures.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  107. Nobody ever asked me what President Obama could do to lose my support.

    As if presidents or congressmen cared or consulted with me.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  108. C’mon, Simon, I’m just funnin’ you, man.
    Trump’s not Reagan, but I’d rather have Jim Talent as Secretary of Defense than … illary’s hairdresser! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  109. yes, about that strategy, they seem to have followed the underwear gnome,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-latino-turnout_us_5826579ee4b060adb56e8fbd

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. I’m slightly surprised there has been no reference to the Abramowitz or Fair econometric model, both of which predicted the outcome of the election. Neither forecaster was particularly pleased with the model results.

    Obama’s decision to welcome illegals while hugging BLM thugs at the same time may done more than just stimulate gun sales but economic sluggishness coupled with Clinton’s ability to nauseate and repel upon sight were probably greater factors to the Clinton defeat.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  111. @95.Maybe, SarahW, but we have evidence at this website that it might have happened: DCSCA is a liberal Democrat who claimed he was NeverHillary and would vote for Trump.

    ‘Might’ makes right. Hardly a ‘liberal democrat’ DRJ, but to myopic Texans anybody left-handed may seem so. I cop to opposing rigid, preachy conservative ideologues and embrace pragmatists. #NeverCruz for sure. HRC had my vote (preferred her space policy) until the day the ‘secret server’ news broke at that rambling UN presser. She learned nothing from the 90’s.

    So the crossover to Trump was an easy decision as he’s pragmatist.

    Besides, those of us who’ve lived and worked in NYC in the ’80s know how to read the Trump bluster pretty well, gold-plated warts and all. He’s a real estate developer; a deal maker. A builder. A doer. And getting things done in NYC ain’t easy. Back in the day, three people ran Steady Eddie Koch’s New York: Steinbrenner, Helmsley an Trump. Miss Liberty is a harbor girl and knows all about the uptown guy she’s getting in bed with. It won’t hurt Washington to get a swift New York kick in the azz. And as a side bennie, he’s all but neutered conservative ideologues.

    It’ll be a great show– because as you should have learned by now, Americans don’t want to be governed; they wish to be entertained.

    “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes. – Leona Helmsley

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  112. Unbelievable “inside the NYT” article today by a former LA based NYT reporter. Google up Deadline Hollywood, article by Michael Cieply. Talks about how the NYT is an “editor-driven” newspaper, where the editors set the “narrative” for stories over a period of time, then send the reporters out to gather the facts and write the stories that fit the narrative. Don’t bother with stories/facts that don’t fit the narrative, the editors aren’t interested. A couple quotes:

    By and large, talented reporters scrambled to match stories with what internally was often called “the narrative.” We were occasionally asked to map a narrative for our various beats a year in advance, square the plan with editors, then generate stories that fit the pre-designated line.

    Reality usually had a way of intervening. But I knew one senior reporter who would play solitaire on his computer in the mornings, waiting for his editors to come through with marching orders. Once, in the Los Angeles bureau, I listened to a visiting National staff reporter tell a contact, more or less: “My editor needs someone to say such-and-such, could you say that?”

    The bigger shock came on being told, at least twice, by Times editors who were describing the paper’s daily Page One meeting: “We set the agenda for the country in that room.”

    To believe the national agenda was being set in a conference room in a headquarters on Manhattan’s Times Square required a very special mind-set indeed.

    So there you have it — the admission that the front page of the NYT isn’t about reporting, its about shaping the news to fit a pre-established agenda and narrative.

    shipwreckedcrew (e90d7c)

  113. Thanks for that, too, SWC

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  114. DCSCA,

    I’m sorry if I was wrong about your politics/ideology. I thought you had supported Democrats in the past.

    DRJ (15874d)

  115. Classy insult, though. Must be those New York values.

    DRJ (15874d)

  116. now he was initially on walker’s team, but proved an able surrogate,

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/anthony-scaramucci-on-team-trumps-economic-plan.html?mid=twitter-share-di

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. 121. If Clinton was the first black president, and Shrub was alternatingly the first Jewish/Mexican president, methinks Trump is the first Italian president.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  118. BTW, a paellera is a pan/skillet for cooking paella.

    Imagine that. Is there by any chance a special pan/skillet for cooking biryani? Cuz I cook that a lot, but I do it in a plastic tub in the microwave.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  119. Well, I think you have to admit that up until Trump won the primary, he got a pass.

    This.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  120. That Michelle Celeria who interviewed Anthony Saramucci (Narciso’s nymag link above) is quite a piece of work, isn’t she?

    Thanks for posting the link Narciso. Much of what he said was quite interesting.

    elissa (35da79)

  121. They were deathly scared of Cruz. Trump is still a consolation prize; in their eyes he is not as bad as Cruz.

    And definitely not as bad as Pence. On Wednesday I spoke to a friend who’s a GLBTQ* activist and tried to console him with the prospect of Trump’s coming legal trouble, and he was appalled at the prospect of Pence becoming president.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  122. Maybe, SarahW, but we have evidence at this website that it might have happened: DCSCA is a liberal Democrat who claimed he was NeverHillary and would vote for Trump.

    DCSCA is a smarmy poseur who’ll claim anything.

    nk (dbc370)

  123. I voted for Cruz, but I can see now he’d have lost hard. We don’t have definitive information about who voted for Trump, but from what we do know now it seems very unlikely he could have assembled the voters that Trump did.

    But he might have assembled different voters.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  124. @118- Certainly not conservative Democrats.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  125. yes, she’s clearly in the ‘have you stopped beating your wife’ school of insinuation, but scaramucci, handles her well, I disagree with his view on yellen, but ‘you can’t always get what you want’

    narciso (d1f714)

  126. she was here, until this january,

    http://nypost.com/author/michelle-celarier/

    narciso (d1f714)

  127. Are you saying you would never support Hillary because she is a conservative Democrat?

    DRJ (15874d)

  128. @DRJ:Are you saying you would never support Hillary because she is a conservative Democrat?

    I’m pretty sure he’s saying he doesn’t support conservatives, and that he doesn’t support Hillary. But that does not mean he thinks Hillary is a conservative Democrat. I think he opposed here because she’s crooked, judging from what he wrote above:

    HRC had my vote (preferred her space policy) until the day the ‘secret server’ news broke at that rambling UN presser. She learned nothing from the 90’s.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  129. It takes some brave creatures to try to talk some sense into crazed leftwing m00nbats… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/horse-commie-trans.jpg

    Colonel Haiku (3bf827)

  130. excuse me gabriel, her space policy, you need to explain that,

    narciso (d1f714)

  131. That was Gabriel quoting DCSCA’s earlier comment about Hillary and her space policy, narciso. So you should ask DCSCA what he meant.

    DRJ (15874d)

  132. Hopefully he will also respond to my question.

    DRJ (15874d)

  133. little examples how the press missed things,

    https://twitter.com/JimmyPrinceton/status/797440808848912384?lang=en

    narciso (d1f714)

  134. @narcisco:excuse me gabriel, her space policy, you need to explain that,

    Like DRJ said, ask DCSCA. I have no idea what her “space policy” is, don’t care, and she never had my vote under any circumstances whatever.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  135. Hey,
    a project to suggest
    Already there is a growth industry in the claims of hate crime occurrences,
    if past experience is a good predictor of the future,
    most, if not all,
    will be fraudulent
    somebody needs to keep track of this

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  136. @narcisco: If you can’t tell, I voted Revenant Mao.

    I suspect that had Patterico run Revenant Mao against Trump, Trump would have won.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  137. @134. Right.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  138. Space policy is far down the national agenda these days anyway but HRC, in spite of her progressive ideology, had a personal interest in it to supplement her position. But her secret server issue ended any chance of my support. So it’ll takes a few more years to get to Mars or back to Luna– unless China gets something off the ground. HSF is an area of personal interest.

    The country needs a pragmatist- not an ideologue. As stated earlier, DRJ, NYers know how to read Trump’s bluster from the ’80s on. He’s not perfect, but who is. It’ll be a good show– unless you’re a devoted ideologue– conservative or progressive. In which case, you will be disappointed and angry. Because he will compromise and make deals and press on to the next problem. He’s a deal maker who likes to get things done.

    That Pgh reporter correctly noted Trump supporters take him seriously but not what he says literally; whereas conservative ideologues, NeverTrumpers and weeping progressives take him literally but did not take him seriously.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  139. It’ll be a good show– unless you’re a devoted ideologue– conservative or progressive. In which case, you will be disappointed and angry.

    I won’t be disappointed because I expect nothing. My goal was to keep the Clinton crime family, the lying corrupt commie and her relatives out of the White House so I’ve already won. Throw in a few good SC picks and another 160-200 good federal judges and I’m in heaven. I don’t expect anything from Trump, he’s a New Yorker just look at them. What I do expect is the Republican majority to USE ITS POWER and stop acting like the minority party.

    Trump is going to keep parts of Obamacare, the worse parts, because he’s surrounded with idiots who keep telling him “If you repeal it there’s nothing to go back to” which is pure bullcrap. We had a private market and we can have one again. Just like there are people who will tell him “we can’t deport 11 million people”. Bullcrap. We never tried. If we can put a man on the moon sending 11 million Mexicans home is a cake walk. If they can force taxpayer to hand over 3 trillion dollars to the government by threat of force 11 million illegals are nothing. People who say this crap are leftist operatives. Don’t listen. We’re Americans we can do any damn thing we set out to. At least we used to before liberal thinking took over.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  140. Perhaps but he was trying to explain this to the journal, patience rev.

    narciso (d1f714)


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