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10/30/2016

Uh-Oh: Weiner Cooperating with FBI on Hillary Email Investigation

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 2:30 pm

Fox News Sunday reported this morning that Anthony Weiner is cooperating with the FBI, which has re-opened (yes, lefties: “re-opened”) the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s classified emails. Watch as Chris Wallace reports the breaking news during the panel segment near the end of the show:

And the news is breaking while we’re on the air. Our colleague Bret Baier has just sent us an e-mail saying he has two sources who say that Anthony Weiner, who also had co-ownership of that laptop with his estranged wife Huma Abedin, is cooperating with the FBI investigation, had given them the laptop, so therefore they didn’t need a warrant to get in to see the contents of said laptop. Pretty interesting development.

Targets of federal investigations will often cooperate, hoping that they will get consideration from a judge at sentencing. Given Weiner’s well-known penchant for lying, it’s hard to believe that a prosecutor would give Weiner a deal based on an agreement to testify, unless his testimony were very strongly corroborated by hard evidence. But cooperation can take many forms — and, as Wallace indicated on this morning’s show, one of those forms could be signing a consent form to allow investigators to review the contents of devices that they could probably get a warrant for anyway. We’ll see if Weiner’s cooperation extends beyond that.

Any way you slice it, it’s not good news for Hillary Clinton.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

79 Responses to “Uh-Oh: Weiner Cooperating with FBI on Hillary Email Investigation”

  1. If Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Scott Walker, or Bobby Jindal were our nominee, the election would be over with this re-opening of the investigation. With Trump, we’ll still probably lose.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  2. Deliciously, HRC can’t very well petition for an injunction against the FBI’s examination of the laptop as she very publicly and forcefully demanded that everything be made public immediately! The people have a right to see the evidence!, she shouted. Oops.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  3. Yeah, Ed from SFV, I love how the woman who destroyed and hid emails for two years is now demanding that the FBI IMMEDIATELY SHOW THE EMAILS that she was hiding! (ROTFLMAO)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  4. Heh. You said hard evidence.

    Zeb Quinn (e29e84)

  5. I would not want to be a chair or vase or anything throwable near HRC today. It’s actually kind of tragic: the men in her life are the ones who destroy her dreams!

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  6. the sleazy corrupt fbi’s performance in this investigation goes so far beyond a joke it’s hard to know what any of this means

    they’re definitely making a spectacle of themselves and the pig

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. In this case it was a woman. Huma. She put the incriminating emails in the vulnerable computer. Never, never, never, have anything to do with women if you’re engaged in a criminal activity. They will always cross you, out of spite or out of stupidity or out of weakness or out of a reason only they know.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. it’s so many emails though

    somebody was making a deliberate and concerted effort to grab as much crap as they could onto that laptop

    hell hath no fury like a weinerboy scorned i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. Letters. We get letters.

    Now Reid is dragging the Hatch Act into it in a poison pen note. Another frigging crutch for Maudie. Can’t this old woman stand on her own two feet and do anything for herself??

    Smithers, release the squirrels; distract, deflect, defend.

    FBI’s Comey had nothing to do with this.

    Maudie did this.
    Maudie brought this on herself.
    Maudie owns it.
    Maudie, damn it, Americans are so tired of this– 25 years of this crap from you… man up or leave the stage.

    “I Am Woman, hear me roar….” Helen Reddy, 1972

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  10. What happened to Clinton illustrated till the race is finished, never mark the wager paid.
    Wakes up this morning, in bed with the media combine knowing she’s got us by the balls.
    Whatever sick fing business that Weiner has transacted you can bet she had her wrists in it up –

    Before, after and in the fing middle, too thinking she’s got the edge, which is the right move.

    Underwriting whatever sick business Weiner was involved in guarantees her fing position, but what happens?
    Effs herself up the ass. No mean feat, yet how often we bring it off.

    Who impressed me this news cycle was Trump that avoided putting his pet interests, innocence, so forth, guilt fing who did what to fing who, before the needs of the fing country.
    It shows progress.
    It shows growing maturity to what makes the world’s fing tail wag.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  11. I have exactly one thing to say. Way to go, Rauhauser. Running interference for that lump of skeev, when he could have been rapidly and quietly made to go away, was ever so helpful to the corruptocrats you wished to please.

    You were so very offended. So very displeased. And maybe now that you think of it, WRONG. More that one person on this page tried to tell you it was net benefit to catch [no i wont say it] him out. Maybe he might have been better off, forced to deal with his problems like an alcoholic bottoming out.

    Here’s to you for having no sense at all.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  12. Ok one other thing to say. There’s a rumor that the computer laptop that Weiner was using is actually the missing “archive” computer that just nobody knew where it went.

    Maybe old pointandskeev spied it in a dusty cupboard under some pillows and fitted sheets, and thought, Hey! Free skeevy computing power!

    That will be kind of funny, if it turns out to be something like that.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  13. well the slithy tove, is still yelling squirrel, to keefums, and eichenwald, a full chimp circle,

    narciso (d1f714)

  14. it’s also time to face an uncomfortable truth

    piggy isn’t just diseased

    piggy isn’t just corrupt

    piggy’s also the most demonstrably and jaw-droppingly incompetent person ever to seek the presidency

    just unbelievably incompetent

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  15. now this richard painter weasel, what rock did he crawl out from under,

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. Fox News breaking… 625,000 emails? Positive hits on state.gov Maudie emails?

    Boom.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. In all of the bad news for Hillary about her e-mails, I have not seen any statement that they are not true. Curious.

    Dave (ac017b)

  18. It was being reported tonight (I didn’t quite understand the details) that the FBI obtained the laptop in September, and got a search warrant about October 3 (“27 days ago”), or something like that.

    But they only more recently realized the significance of those emails.

    The Daily Caller says some other law enforcement agency – not DOJ or the FBI – may have seen the e-mails. That’s an idea. Maybe not Preet Bharara then, but New York State or North Carolina law enforcement? Or do they have the facts wrong?

    There is this now

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article111454247.html

    A person familiar with the investigation, who lacked authority to discuss the matter publicly and insisted on anonymity, said the device that appears to be at the center of the new review was a computer that belonged only to Weiner and was not one he shared with Abedin.

    As a result, it was not a device searched for work-related emails at the time of the initial investigation. The person said it is “news to (Abedin)” that her emails would be on a computer belonging to her husband.

    Now here’s another thing:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/10/30/breakingexclusive-comey-lied-fbi-synched-weiner-laptop-under-misused-terror-warrant/

    Oh, the NSA maybe? Foreign counter-intelligence? Who are these people? They seem to be very pro-Hillary and anti=Trump, except they are pro-Nazi too.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  19. 16. DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/30/2016 @ 5:04 pm

    Fox News breaking… 625,000 emails? Positive hits on state.gov Maudie emails?

    The thought occured to me that it is possible, this is the all the emails including the deleted e-mails, and Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin put it there and hid the files on it (without Anthony Weiner’s knowledge) because it would never be searched for there in a Clinton e-mail probe. I doubt, if so, they would have decided this on theri own.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  20. happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/30/2016 @ 4:57 pm

    piggy isn’t just diseased

    piggy isn’t just corrupt

    piggy’s also the most demonstrably and jaw-droppingly incompetent person ever to seek the presidency

    just unbelievably incompetent

    There have been plenty of incompent people – who never got anywhere. Why just this election, theer was Jim Gilmore. And have you forgotten Rick Perry?

    She’s competent in cover-ups. But she just doesn’t rise to the level of Bill Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  21. oh veterans today, is full of the crazy, including a crazy foggy bottom legacy who was stalking richard clarke from australia,

    narciso (d1f714)

  22. Doug Schoen, liberal statist and Fox News contributor, said on air about an hour ago he can not now, in good conscience, vote for HRC.

    This is the first crack of even the slightest significance on their side.

    Pat Caddell insisted that more than ever, the usual suspect polls are gaming the numbers. He said he has seen the internals and that Republican voters are turning out MORE than Democrat voters. This is a new development. He said the weighting used by the folks who run those polls is not to be trusted, as it has yet to reflect the surge in EV GOP voters. He said this explains how, all of a sudden, HRC’s supposedly huge lead has evaporated.

    Also, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the Senate appears to be right on the edge of turning Dem, as opposed to the slam dunk widely declared last week. The latest, greatest, word is that it will be a 50-50 result.

    I still think the establishment statist voters will come home and HRC will win and the Senate will turn. But…Caddell and the wide coverage of the latest FBI ordeal does offer a glimmer of hope that the opposite will occur.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  23. I call Boomer(s). Imagine a whole country of 330 million people that can’t come up with better candidates that these two mooks.

    J Palmer Cass (5a4596)

  24. Ed from SFV, … and conservatives such as you who declined to vote for illary’s opponent will be able to take a well-deserved bow when she wins.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  25. Is AW cooperating with the FBI because he went full Chris Hansen on some underage girl online?

    Pinandpuller (ae0749)

  26. remember the only way they could get capone, I wonder how true that was, also they knocked petraeus and blackmailed allen through similar means,

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. oh poor lil babies

    National Soros Radio’s facing up to the grim reality their pig is dirty

    they broke it gently to their pig-sniffing audience late today

    A source also said that the material would have to contain something extraordinary to change the original determination not to bring any charges against Clinton or her associates.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  28. SarahW (3164f0) — 10/30/2016 @ 4:51 pm

    There’s a rumor that the computer laptop that Weiner was using is actually the missing “archive” computer that just nobody knew where it went.

    This one you mean?

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/25/hillarys-33000-emails-might-not-be-missing-after-all/

    Then there’s the laptop Combetta loaded with the Clinton email archive [fall 2014?] and allegedly shipped back to a Clinton aide in Washington, who claims it got “lost” in the mail. Not so fast: The latest FBI document dump includes a series of interviews with an unidentified former “special assistant” to Clinton at the State Department who said the elusive Apple MacBook laptop was actually “shipped to the Clinton Foundation in New York City.”

    But in a June follow-up interview, FBI agents inexplicably left it up to this critical witness to “inquire about the shipment” with the foundation’s mailroom manager, who works in Rockefeller Center. The FBI still does not have the laptop in its possession.

    There is a possibility I suppose that that is that laptop, but I kind of doubt that. In that case, he wouldn’t have had it for too long, (at most a year and a half or so) and Huma would have had to give it to him as a gift.

    But somebody would have had to hide the files, so they wouldn’t be visible to the operating system.

    Or maybe just hide the folder?

    Nobody knows how much space the operating system, and temporary files is supposed to take up, so Weiner wouldn’t notice it, because he wouldn’t be short of space. Maybe old pointandskeev spied it in a dusty cupboard under some pillows and fitted sheets, and thought, Hey! Free skeevy computing power! But if so, wouldn’t Huma have noticed him using it, even if she didn’t know it was missing from its hiding place? And if she didn’t want him to have it, wouldn’t she have retrieved it? And what was wrong with his current computer?

    Or did she maybe find him using it and take it back, and he only used it for a short time?

    The missing laptop was said to have been mailed to Washington, and later (instead?) said to have been mailed to New York. It had the complete archive. Nobody acknowledged receiving it. I think they did get it, and used it, and maybe destroyed it later, but nobody wanted to acknowledge having examined the contents. There may be a complete archived, or two, and maybe it was hidden on Anthony Weiner’s computer, but that wouldn’t be the same laptop that was mailed from Colorado – at least untouched.

    We don’t know what’s on it, and meanwhile Senator Harry Reid and maybe superiors at DOJ are warning FBI Director James Comey against disclosing anything, while at the same time Hillary Clinton is demanding that things be disclosed.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  29. recall with lois lerner, the disk drive had not been destroyed, that was just a dodge to let the statute of limitations passed, she prespun the ig investigation into the irs, then politico called up a sob story, same with benghazi,

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. Indiana gave Cruz the high hat, Mr Supporter, but I’m sure Ed didn’t hand it over to HRC.

    I voted for the independent against Marcia Blackburn to give her a little chin music, under the same theory.

    Pinandpuller (ae0749)

  31. I think he has the cause and effect wrong, but it’s possible that one master served two parties,

    https://twitter.com/hectormorenco/status/792592879369592832

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. Who are these people? They seem to be very pro-Hillary and anti=Trump, except they are pro-Nazi too.

    Why do you think those are not compatible positions? VT is a notoriously antisemitic site; surely you are aware that many antisemites are Democrats. VT started out as an anti-Bush’s-war site, and its line seems to be pro-Russia, pro-Iran, pro-anyone-who’s-against-the-US, and above all always anti-Jewish. Maybe they’re pro-Clinton because of the Iran deal.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  33. There is also a missing USB flash drive with the archive.

    The archive was also once backed up in a secure place in the cloud by Datto Inc. (in violation of their contract, which required that the archive be held locally) – of course Datto itself was in the cloud with respect to Platte River Networks.

    And also temporarily copied to a GMail address Paul Combetta of Platte River Networks had established for that purpose.

    All this was after 2013. Before that Hillary Clinton’s email was really secure. Guarded by the Secret Service. Pretty much invulnearable to phishing or dictionary attacks.

    The hack that worked against John Podesta wouldn’t have worked against Hillary Clinton for several different reasons.

    1) No password re-set page. (or backdoor via security questions)

    2) User probably doesn’t even know the password, but only the device does.

    3) A message from the system saying your password had been compromised would not be plausible.

    4) In case of problems, user just gets SySOP Justin Cooper on the phone (while GMail had no such customer service)

    5) Very noticeable strain on the system if massive download is attempted.

    6) If a massive dictionary attack occurs, system is just shut down till it goes away.

    The only way in is to compromise an already logged in, or self-logging computer, and then all they get is waht that user can access.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  34. Sammy, I’m speculating on a delightful if unlikely possiblity, that Huma hid or stored the computer and he FOUND it, and used it to carry on like a Wiener does.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  35. We face disasters either way, Cruz Supporter. HRC would be worse than DJT, though. And yes, I would dearly love to see a special prosecutor go after the Clintons and their foundation. The problem is, as will all things DJT, I don’t believe he will follow through.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  36. so they had apparently initially compromised inspector dreyfus, through his hsbc ties, back three month and a half ago, a fellow named fedora known for the research on reid, pointed this connection, then we discover through judicial watch about mccabe’s role, or was it wikileaks,

    narciso (d1f714)

  37. Mr. Ed Mr. Ed please drop charges against Mr. mg

    it’s the holidays you know

    there’s candy and laughter and PSL

    but without Mr. mg it just feels like something’s mising

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. *missing* i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. actually you see in the coordination by painter, how anyone going after the clintons from jay stephens to comey, ends up with the buzzsaw in their face, doesn’t manner their demeanor,

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. @19– Sammy, you’re closer to NY local news chatter on this (gotta love that NY media market) but now buzz is Huma says it was Carlos Danger’s laptop, not ‘hers’– distancing herself from it nd its contents w/every statement. They’re going to toss chaff and release squirrels for 8 days…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  41. jay stephens, fmr dc us atty did the initial investigation of madison guaranty for pillsbury madison back in the early 90s,

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. 25.I call Boomer(s). Imagine a whole country of 330 million people that can’t come up with better candidates that these two mooks.

    Blame the stranglehold by the parties. Don’t recall any reference to them in the Constitution.
    The engine of government can operate until you pour sugar or sand in the gas tank.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. what nation has avoided faction, the greeks, the romans, certainly the not, our forebearers, the whigs and the tories, of the uk, and the fundamental conflict was the federalist/antifederalists,

    narciso (d1f714)

  44. Greetings:

    Maybe Huma was keeping all those e-mails so that her Muslima Brotherhood momma could give them the once over when she stopped by ???

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  45. not the romans, the optimates, and the populares, as I pointed out earlier, plutarch sought the latter were in the right, whereas sallust thought the latter,

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. #Demockery

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. If you’re holding something over somebody’s head, it’s only useful until you use it. Kind of a contradiction there, someplace. So if Carlos had some dirt he was keeping in his…pocket…to make sure HRC & Co. played nice with him….it’s over.

    Richard Aubrey (472a6f)

  48. travismockasham, coronello, i’m sure heileman and halperin, the two kibitzers who have carping over the truth for two cycles, and were paid hansomely, intended the tale of the wise and honorable red queen to be the preferred narrative, over the uncouth barbarian, but that part might have revision,

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. My favorite factoid from the new (old) Abedin/Weiner/Clinton saga is that Huma Abedin deliberately chose Bill Clinton to officiate over her wedding to Carlos Danger.

    That’s just the kind of lush detail that Sophocles or Euripides would have relished.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  50. the oresteia rested on such poor choices, then again seeing how much they have gotten away, it’s like a mob marriage between clans,

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. revisit this piece in light of current facts,

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/na-la-fbi-deputy-director-20160505-snap-story.html

    narciso (d1f714)

  52. 52. Beldar (fa637a) — 10/30/2016 @ 6:43 pm

    My favorite factoid from the new (old) Abedin/Weiner/Clinton saga is that Huma Abedin deliberately chose Bill Clinton to officiate over her wedding to Carlos Danger.

    Bill Clinton was the matchmaker!

    And he didn’t really formalize the marriage. He had no authority to do so. That was just for show.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  53. Ed from SFV, … and conservatives such as you who declined to vote for illary’s opponent will be able to take a well-deserved bow when she wins.
    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/30/2016 @ 5:46 pm

    I call BS. He did vote for someone other than Hillary for President. So you’re being blatantly dishonest. But that’s not the only part of the quoted statement where you were dishonest. Of course, you already knew that.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  54. Narciso… between the DOJ sh*tcanning an investigation of the Clinton Foundation, all of this email crap and Hillary Clinton asking former prosecutors to attack Comey and the FBI, the foundations of our republic are under siege. I hope these Obama administration criminals are fundamentally transformed right into federal lock-up.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  55. but you see the sisyphean length that any good honorable man faces ‘they bought the stage’ the mc’s and the turntables, only those outside with microphones like judicial watch, wikileaks, o’keefe, seem to be able to break through,

    is that too much of a heuristic legerdemain,

    narciso (d1f714)

  56. Aeschylus, Beldar. Homer before him. Apollo sang at the wedding of Thetis and Peleas and later guided Paris’s arrow to kill their son Achilles. Plato had something to say too:

    “So although we approve of many things in Homer, this we will
    not approve of… nor will we approve of Aeschylus when he
    makes Thetis say that Apollo sang at her wedding in
    celebration of her child:

    that he would not know sickness, would live long,
    and that every blessing would be his;
    and he sang such praises that he rejoiced my heart.
    And I had hopes that the divine lips of Apollo,
    fluent with the art of prophecy, would not prove false.
    But he who proclaimed these things…
    he it is
    who killed my son…”
    Plato, Republic, II. 383

    nk (dbc370)

  57. DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/30/2016 @ 6:25 pm

    now buzz is Huma says it was Carlos Danger’s laptop, not ‘hers’

    That’s what they are saying. And that that was why FBI agents did not expect to see e-mail from Huma Abedin on it.

    By the way, I think she eventually turned over a lot of her mail because of a FOIA lawsuit I think. This could be missing work related emails from her

    They’re going to toss chaff and release squirrels for 8 days…

    They are doing something else now.

    What they are doing right now is pushing the idea that Comey is biased against her and trying to tilt the election against her, and making something sound suspicious that isn’t. And that, if Comey is trying to correct the record, Comey maybe shouldn’t have cleared her earlier, or at least when he cleared her back then he shouldn’t have dunped over her (that probably actually had the complete concurrence of her lawyers, or else it probably wouldn’t have taken place.)

    Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid sent a letter to Comey (and released it to the press) accusing him of sitting on information harmful to Trump and rushing out with anti-Clinton innuendo.

    It’s obvious that there are things about the emails that are not public. They want people to believe that what is not public is favorable to Hillary Clinton.

    Rules about impartiality or non-disclosure can be taken advantage of by unscrupulous people to create a misleading impression – that should be obvious from this.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  58. #37 Ed from SFV,

    You can play that way when voting for Congress — but when voting for President, you’re voting for one of the two parties to take control of the executive branch.

    It comes down to, “Whom do I prefer to run the DoJ, the IRS, the Pentagon, and nominate federal judges; Democrats or Republicans?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  59. in every tale from the illiad to the aeneid, the gods proved cruel, capricious vain, why would this be different,

    narciso (d1f714)

  60. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/30/2016 @ 6:59 pm

    Hillary Clinton asking former prosecutors to attack Comey and the FBI,

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lupica-james-comey-america-favor-shut-article-1.2850315

    Now this is what a former Department of Justice official told Laura Wagner of NPR about Comey’s actions:

    You don’t hold a press conference to announce that someone should not be charged and then proceed to dump all over that person and to publicly discuss the evidence against them. That’s kind of one of the 10 commandments of being a federal law enforcement officer. And another commandment would be — you don’t publicly announce that you’re conducting a criminal investigation against someone. And you especially don’t do it if that person is a candidate, 11 days before an election. That’s true whether it’s a presidential election or an election for dog catcher.”

    This person is right, of course, right as rain. Comey happened to be right about Hillary Clinton last summer: Regardless of her gross carelessness with national security, there was no way he could have proven a criminal violation.

    And he had to know that it would have been dead wrong, and about half-criminal of a man charged with protecting the law in this country, to contaminate this political season further with an indictment that would have been as thin as a piece of copy paper.

    But he overstepped himself then, and does the same thing now. Clearly, it’s what he does in the interest of self-preservation, and holding on to what is left of his career in government. He really didn’t know when to shut up about what he perceived to be Clinton’s carelessness. But he was obviously more interested in looking tough even when Republicans and the bullhorn media were calling him weak. Comey wasn’t acting like a prosecutor in that moment. He was already defending himself, covering up like a fighter against the ropes, perhaps worried about political pipsqueaks like Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Republican from Utah who talks so much you wonder how he doesn’t run out of saliva.

    So now Comey goes public, despite all reported objections from the Department of Justice. But why does the DOJ not order Comey to stand down? Because they are afraid of being accused of a coverup later. So nobody does what’s right here. And by the way? If Comey, who wants to act like the last honest man in America, has something damning here on Hillary Clinton, then show us. Tell us. If not, then have the good grace to resign.

    Tell us, although it would be against ethics and maybe a violation of law to do so?

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  61. I just keep thinking of the first time Weiner was caught and all the fake ids and fake twitter accounts and threats against journalists (even the NYTs lady) and I can’t shake the feeling that was something that has to do with all of this.

    MayBee (a7822d)

  62. I’ve been thinking the same thing, Maybee. Just too much unqualified weirdness.

    elissa (702c2e)

  63. Cruz Supporter – The republic and its constitution are far bigger than any binary choice for the presidency. That the people, you apparently included, fail to grasp this point (and countless others), is the reason we are in the pickle we are in. HRC and DJT are symptoms, not causes.

    There is no saving us without a revolution, be it legal (Article V), or extra-legal.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  64. yes, it’s a first step, the media/educational/finance networks behind the regime, is something we can’t get at directly

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. Mikie Lupica is a tiny little man.
    He’s a Democrat partisan who had all the respect in the world for the FBI in July when they chose not to prosecute his gal, illary.
    Now, he’s freaking out.
    Which is ironic since every good Democrat knows that illary only deleted emails about yoga class and Chelsea’s wedding!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  66. ah lupica, costanza’s favorite columnist, like keefum’s he was frustrated just getting sports wrong, so he had to branch out,

    narciso (d1f714)

  67. Ed from SFV,

    That’s all such sweet music, except for the fact that we Americans are more than just an abstraction on paper.
    People are going to suffer with illary and the Democrat machine calling all the shots from the executive branch for the next four years.
    I remember during the primaries when you found fault with evvvveryone who had thrown their hat in the ring.
    And since Rubio, Cruz, Fiorina, Walker, and Jindal were each too “controversial” for whatever reason among the primary electorate, we’re now stuck with Trump.
    For those of you who seek a ‘perfect’ nominee, maybe the Amish life is calling you.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  68. Cruz Supporter – The default and inescapable reality which is about to hit us is that there will be much suffering. There is no escaping it. The past few generations, as they have veered from ineluctable laws of economics with fantastical government spending ($20 trillion debt now) and a refusal to enforce even a basic standard of accountability in behavior, have guaranteed a horrific future. There is going to be hell to pay.

    On a personal level, I worked for Cruz/Fiorina to win in Indiana, when there was little hope. I didn’t stand aside, shrugging. Until the Hoosier Values kicked in at the ballot box in May, I had not completely given up. I wore the Cruz “hat” proudly. My sense is that I will again, although not with a mere vote.

    George III and his minions relied on the majority of Colonists (5/8) who were Crown loyalists to prevail. He would have been pleased with you and all the other “adults” and “moderates” who are all-too ready to accept further and further tyrannical diktats as y’all come to a boil in the saucepan as so many amphibians.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  69. Ed from SFV,

    We all wish Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, or Ronald Reagan was on the ballot.
    Unfortunately, none of them is.
    The general election is not about abstractions.
    Rather, it’s about the names which actually appear on the ballot.
    And in our two party system, the outcome is that either party X or party Y wins the reins to the executive branch.

    So, go ahead and fantasize about Edmund Burke or John Adams, but either Trump or illary is going to become the next President.
    Whether or not either one of them gels with your arch “principles” is completely irrelevant.
    But the federal bureaucracies and agencies will be appointed by the victor.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  70. @36 SarahW

    Alcoholics always have bottles stashed around the house in movies and TV shows. I wonder if AW was under restriction and went looking around for some entertainment and social networking.

    I used to work with a guy who taught me the term “farming the carpet” in reference to really, really wanting to do drugs when you have done run out.

    Pinandpuller (2036db)

  71. Ed from SFV, You have CS nailed dead-to-rights.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  72. We can trust burgoyne and Corvallis they have always been fair.

    narciso (d1f714)

  73. I worked for Cruz/Fiorina, I funded Cruz/Fiorina… but it was not to be.

    So I’m left with voting for someone who – best case – will do some good and who – worst case – will do the least damage. And that’s Trump, not Hillary Clinton.

    Colonel Haiku (8583e2)

  74. 3. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/30/2016 @ 2:48 pm

    Yeah, Ed from SFV, I love how the woman who destroyed and hid emails for two years is now demanding that the FBI IMMEDIATELY SHOW THE EMAILS that she was hiding! (ROTFLMAO)

    Because she knows they won’t do it, of course!

    To make sure nobody says anything we have Harry Reid’s letter, and Richard Painter’s complainnts to the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Government Ethics.

    Then, with everyone’s lips shut tight, she can imply, or let other people imply and say, the reason nobody is saying anything is because if the emails were released they would show there’s nothing there, and Comey was and is trying to undermine her campaign by insinuating a problem where there isn’t one.

    Anybody working for he federal government who leaks anything contradicting that is trying to influence the election and violating the Hatch Act.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)


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