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10/29/2016

Hillary Clinton: She Alone Owns This

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:31 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Tomorrow’s cover of the New York Post via the twitters:

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She built this, she owns this. Let’s let a grown woman assume the responsibility that belongs to her. Let’s not infantilize, patronize and condescend to this breaker of glass ceilings by trying to relieve her of full ownership of this debacle. After all, it’s not like the little woman was at home quietly baking cookies all these years. Instead, she was expertly baking America with a skillful deceit:

But in all of the arguments and counter-arguments about whether Comey is right or wrong, principled or cynical, something important is lost in the conversation: This is all Hillary Clinton’s fault. She did this. She and her husband have spent 30 years bending and breaking the rules and letting others pay the price for it. The Clintons force everyone off the highroad and then, when convenient, condemn them for deviating from it. Clinton put Comey in a terrible situation. We can condemn him — or praise him — for the decisions he made once he ended up there. But let’s not lose sight of the fact that this is all Hillary Clinton’s doing in the first place. She decided to use the home-brew server. She decided to lie about it. She did this. And if she ends up losing this election (which I still very much doubt) it will be her fault — and her fault alone.

Women fought long and hard for the right to choose. Hillary chose. This is her baby. And hers alone.

–Dana

64 Responses to “Hillary Clinton: She Alone Owns This”

  1. What a woman.

    Dana (d17a61)

  2. God, I love New York media.

    “New York, New York, a helluva town; the Bronx is up and the Battery’s down…” – ‘On The Town’ MGM, 1949

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  3. And this…

    “UH OH: Huma Abedin Swore Under Oath She Gave Up ‘All the Devices’ With State Dept. Emails: The FBI found emails pertinent to its Clinton investigation, reportedly on a computer from her aide’s home. That doesn’t jibe with she told lawyers this summer.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/247700/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. I used to visit this blog regularly in the past. When you turned against America I stopped.
    Donald J. Trump has given up much to run for the highest office. All he has gotten from you people who one would think support him is grief. I know someone connected with this blog is connected to the law. If you are truly an attorney, you must have gone to the same ethics classes as Megyy Kelly. Your bias against an honest man trying to help a nation that allowed him to gain great wealth is disgusting.

    Zelsdorf Ragshaft III (d8338d)

  5. it’s a nice sentiment, but she is never accountable, she has the wurlitzer of at least 65 reporters on her side, seven networks, practically all the daily papers, in a normal circumstance she would have been in prison at this point, or pursuing appeals, now the hours are counting down, to the moment she evades total accountability,

    narciso (d1f714)

  6. jonah goldberg

    What a woman.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Obama should fire Comey! That will fix it.

    BTW, William Rucklehaus is still around. I’d LOVE to hear his take on this, even if he’s a bit of a liberal now.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  8. Well, that’s conservative ideology for you. It cares more about maintaining a power base than the pragmatics of fixing the country. And be wary of that ‘you people’ line… it’s awfully Texan.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. Zelsdorf Ragshaft III,

    I’m unsure why you left your comment at this particular post. It’s about Hillary Clinton and her nefarious actions. There is no mention of Trump.

    Further, neither myself nor our host, Patterico, nor any other guest contributors have “turned against America”. What a nasty accusation. To the contrary, we are concerned more than ever about the state of our union, and about the inevitable damage this election’s outcome will have on our country.

    Your bias against an honest man trying to help a nation that allowed him to gain great wealth is disgusting.

    Further, given that your definition of an “honest man” is Donald Trump, it’s safe to say that your own biased underpants are showing.

    Dana (d17a61)

  10. @Col:Huma Abedin Swore Under Oath She Gave Up ‘All the Devices’ With State Dept. Emails:

    What’s the big deal? She just forgot. Works for the IRS, or so Steve Martin assured us, and it seems that Tim Geithner was able to use that. And Hillary, you know, she thinks you wipe servers with a cloth, like she knows a bit from a byte. She had no idea if anything she said was true and can’t remember any of it.

    Nothing to see here. No intent.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  11. Your bias against an honest man trying to help a nation that allowed him to gain great wealth is disgusting.

    Donald Trump may well have broken everything in his moronic, clumsy, ham-handed and ignorant crusade to disgrace the Oval Office. That Hillary is even in this race is testimony to Trump’s awfulness.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  12. @3- Hey Haiku, is she the Ehrlichman, the Halderman or the Dean in this opera?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  13. Mr. Trump’s an awful lot like what normal people look like who try to make a living in this pitiful country in spite of the multiple fascist layers of government interference regulation oppression and taxation

    he made his money in spite of failmerica’s sick and perverted harvardtrash obama-romney-roberts ruling class

    not because of them

    (compare him with the pig)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. Zelsdorf Ragshaft III

    That’s a really funny name for your sock-puppet, Donnie.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. whaaa?

    Mr. Ragshaft’s been around a decade if he’s been here a day

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. I wonder if we will find out that this trove of emails was Weiner’s hole card.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. if you listen to april ryan and donna brazile, (I try not to) they have no intention of having it fall on her, like dorothy’s house, (you see where I’m going with this)

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. now this is amusing to a point,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3teYvgMsNXk

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. @Kevin M:I wonder if we will find out that this trove of emails was Weiner’s hole card.

    He’s pretty far from a puppet master. I think it is most likely that Huma used Outlook to log on to her HRC email, and it downloaded everything on the server that she ever sent or received. Which is what Outlook does, and plenty of people seem not to know that.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  20. @10 What’s the big deal? She just forgot. Works for the IRS, or so Steve Martin assured us, and it seems that Tim Geithner was able to use that. And Hillary, you know, she thinks you wipe servers with a cloth, like she knows a bit from a byte. She had no idea if anything she said was true and can’t remember any of it.

    And there’s always the George Costanza out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

    “.. it’s not a lie, if you believe it….”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. @DCSCA:And there’s always the George Costanza out:

    That’s not the one. This is the one:

    “Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I’ve worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.”

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  22. Weinergate.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. I used to visit this blog regularly in the past. When you turned against America I stopped.

    Hahahahaha like Donald Trump is America.

    What are you doing back? You made a decision to stay away. Be a man and stick with it.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  24. Your bias against an honest man

    Hilarious.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  25. if Mr. Trump isn’t America what is he

    he’s not honduras i know this for a fact

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. I don’t remember a prior election where so many voters on both sides preferred the VP nominees to the top of the ticket.

    DRJ (15874d)

  27. Or I guess it’s Griftergate.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  28. do we ever get to the truth, or is that extraneous now,

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/247684/

    we discover this week that even what we thought about the 47% tape was incomplete to be charitable, but those (redacted) at politico, tried to spike the story, and it worked for a bit,

    narciso (d1f714)

  29. the immnensity of the corruption is so vast, can one ever really get ones hands around it, this part is just near beer,

    narciso (d1f714)

  30. follow up, here, from a soros bot, now at bezos,

    https://twitter.com/DanRiehl/status/792538444744396800

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. @22- LOL Priceless.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  32. @21- LOL works, too.

    _____

    Women fought long and hard for the right to choose. Hillary chose. This is her baby. And hers alone.

    Right on, Dana.

    One of those “Hard Choices” for the next printing: Huma under the bus or a clean sprint to the Oval Office?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  33. Now that I understand better what more recent versions of Outlook do, let me suggest something that would completely justify the FBI’s actions:

    What if Huma Abedin knew Hillary’s email account password, and for purposes of convenience — such as when HRC was out of the country and unable to access it herself — would sign on from time to time to update HRC about messages she had received but was unaware of?

    If she did so using Weiner’s laptop, then what the FBI agents in NY might have quickly realized is that Outlook had stored a complete archive of all 55,000 emails, including the emails that Hillary had deleted, and no one had used BleachBit on that laptop.

    Hmmmmmm.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  34. That would be a new ballgame. Obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence. One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. that is an extraordinary panoply of fish

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  36. Google one fish two fish red fish blue fish supreme court.

    nk (dbc370)

  37. And that’s just for starters. It’s a given that She used a private server to hide dirty dealings which undeleted emails will show.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. she is no good

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. This is why the Clinton camp — not knowing exactly what they are facing — is playing with fire with the bald challenge to Comey to release to the public what it is they have found rather than leave his cryptic letter as his only public comment.

    How would it go over if on Monday morning Comey said “We located what we think might be a complete archive of all emails sent/received by the HRC account on the Clinton.com email server, including 20,000 plus emails that have not previously been reviewed since they had been deleted by HRC and her aides prior to her delivery of emails to the State Depart. We know that there was classified information in the 33,000 emails she provided to the State Depart, however it will take us many weeks to determine if there is classified information in the 20,000 plus emails she had deleted and we were not able to analyze.

    The fact that a commercial software product such as Outlook would store all her email communications, including highly sensitive and top secret information, onto a laptop computer on a desk in a New York apartment without anyone realizing it, only underscores the point made previously that using an off-the-shelf home-based network server to conduct some of the most significant business done by the United States Intelligence services was at reckless, and potentially criminal act.”

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  40. PIGGY HAS NO RIGHT

    TO AXE HOW I FEEL

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. he’s not honduras i know this for a fact

    To be fair, I doubt that Hillary would be allowed into Honduras, after what she did to them.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  42. Of course, if she’s elected, there’s this line from The Wire:

    “You come at the king you best not miss”

    which was quoted by the Texas Court of Appeals in dismissing bogus charges against Rick Perry.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  43. …most significant business done by the United States Intelligence services was a reckless, and potentially criminal act.

    fify

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. @26.I don’t remember a prior election where so many voters on both sides preferred the VP nominees to the top of the ticket

    Sad thing is, that’s really not saying much, is it.

    “How much would I love to speak my mind on this campaign? Can you imagine if I did that? “Mississippi is chock full of a$$holes, I don’t trust the Chinese, and I gotta tell you something. I’m not gonna be able to pass a single piece of legislation that’s really gonna make any f–k of a difference in your life.” So how’s that for my platform?” -Selina Meyer [Julia Louis Dreyfus] ‘Veep’ – HBO TV

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. 42.Of course, if she’s elected, there’s this line from The Wire: “You come at the king you best not miss” which was quoted by the Texas Court of Appeals in dismissing bogus charges against Rick Perry.

    Of course, if she’s elected, there’s this line from times gone by: “Balls, said the queen, if I had’em I’d be the king. And the king laughed, because had two” which was quoted much too often by my late father.

    So the question is, will she have the stones to toss somebody close, like darling Huma, under the bus.

    Stay tuned.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  46. What was really surprising was the headline on the front page of the New York Daily News of Saturday, October 2, 2016.

    The New York Daily News is about as pro-Hillary Clinton and anti-Donald Trump as you can get.

    Besides occasional cartoons or drawings on the front page and elsewhere, they ran a 6 page editorial Friday a week ago opposing Donald Trump and endorsing Hillary Clinton.

    The headline in yesterday’s paper went:

    HILLARY’S
    WEINER
    HELL

    {Picture of Anthony Weiner on the left, and picture of Hillary Clinton on the right}

    Two red dots begin two underlined lines underneath, that say:

    o Clinton email found in sext-case seizure.

    o 11th-hr. FBI probe drops bomb on election

    In smaller black letetr on the right side of the page at the right side of the line that says WEINER:

    As part of Anthony
    Weiner’s sexting
    probe, the FBI said
    Friday, more Hillary
    Clinton emails have
    been discovered

    Slightly larger, in red, underneath these words:

    PAGES
    4-5

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/the-week?pdate=20161029

    I think they must have sensed some panic, or just a lack of response, coming from the Clinton campaignn, when that headline was composed.

    By the way, and this is different from the way Donald Trump handles bad stories about himself, the Clinton macchine does not really defend Hillary Clinton so much, as argue with the press that they are wrong or could be wrong. There’s a rapid response, but it doesn’t go out to the general public really, although some of spills over.

    They must not have been getting anything.

    The ediorial must have been composed a bit later than the headline, and is somewhat criticial of Comey – that he should say more – but also undecided about what it could really mean.

    By today Sunday, they are more pro-Clinton on the front page. There is a party line now:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/the-week?pdate=20161030

    See: Comey went rogue. He ignored the department of Justice. Hillary Clinton rips his innuendo. The FBI Director should step down. (refers to a Daily News columnist)

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  47. The Clinton campaign is being very crticial of Comey, like he’s trying to turn the election against Hillarry Clinton. In reality, they probably know better. Except maybe for the part about not hiding this from Congress.

    This is what probably happened:

    The New York FBI Office, which has been investigating the possibility of Weiner getting something that qualifies as child pornography, and whose investigators are not the same people who investigated the use of the private server by Hillary Clinton, and don’t report to them either – they are not the same people at all – seized Huma Abedin’s devices. They found some e-mails from the State Department there.

    The New York FBI office informed Comey on Thursday.

    If he wouldn’t take over the investigation, they would do it themselves in New York. They may be doing it themselves anyway for anything besides the issue of mishandling classified information.

    If he wanted to protect Hillary, Comey had to take over the investigation.

    Once done, he also had to inform a Congressional committee because he had publicly declared that the investigation was over, and now it wasn’t, and that would leave the public with a misleading impression.

    He at least had to tell Congress, because relations could become very, very, sour later if he didn’t.

    Comey did not specifically inform the public. House Republicans did. (if I have this right. They were the nes who released his letter.)

    Comey then also made a public explanaton directed at FBI employees.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  48. 39. shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 10/29/2016 @ 11:10 pm

    This is why the Clinton camp — not knowing exactly what they are facing

    They know more, however, than anyone else not in the FBI does.

    They know what was on Hma Abedin’s devices Very, very, probably.

    — is playing with fire with the bald challenge to Comey to release to the public what it is they have found rather than leave his cryptic letter as his only public comment.

    They know he won;t. It’s a very good bet nothing will happen in remaining 10 days.

    How would it go over if on Monday morning Comey said “We located what we think might be a complete archive of all emails sent/received by the HRC account on the Clinton.com email server, including 20,000 plus emails that have not previously been reviewed since they had been deleted by HRC and her aides prior to her delivery of emails to the State Depart.

    NBC News reported that nobody actually looked at the e-mails. They discoverdd they were there, mayue thousands of them, and to do anything further, they needeed a new search warrant, as the old one didn’t cover this kind of thing.

    Comey was proably informed prior to the request for a search warrant.

    There’s a number of oher things I saw on another thread that I want to omment on, but one important thing people are missing is different people were in charge of the Weiner investigation.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  49. Amen to this post, Dana.

    MayBee (a7822d)

  50. How long before:

    1. Huma is thrown under the Killary bus?

    and

    2. Huma is found dead of 3 self inflicted gunshot wounds o the back of her head?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  51. In the end it will all turn out to have been a vast right-wing misogynistic, racist, ageist* conspiracy to keep a poor black girl from Arkansas trying to make good in a white man’s world down.

    *I swear, they are calling people who mention Hillary’s (but not Trump’s) age “ageists”.

    nk (dbc370)

  52. You forgot homophobic, nk.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  53. @50 Rev Hoagie, it seems likely Huma will fall on the same sword Webb Hubbell and Scooter Libby did if necessary.

    crazy (d3b449)

  54. She’s going to re-enter the WH in the situation facing Nixon when he resigned and she has fully earned every bit of it. Obama already has decent competition for the worst President medal and he hasn’t even left office.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  55. 50, not too soon, they still need Michigan.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  56. I don’t see how U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara can go after New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver (D) and New York State Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos (R) and let Hillary Clinton and company off the hook.

    I do think this will be a race against time, sort of like the way the investigation of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich in 2008 was a race against time. They had to do this before he apppointed someone to Barack Obama’s Senate seat. This has to be done before Hlary Clinton gets inaugurated, if she is elected. A double reason is that the whole investigation might be shut down – or rather transferred to more friendly hands – if isn’t completed beforehand.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  57. “34.That would be a new ballgame”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbKEU_ipJSA

    mark (ca18be)

  58. Further, all of the emails are sitting out there on Outlook or Yahoo servers waiting for any hacker to grab. (Huma said, bizarrely, that the emails were easier to print off of her Yahoo email account so she forwarded them to herself there.)

    Dana (d17a61)

  59. my feeling is that huma lies a LOT

    and to herself most of all

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. Weiner extends access to FBI for new probe into Hillary’s email.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/weiner-cooperating-with-fbi-a-bret-baier-tweet-broke-the-story-is-weiner-using-the-emails-to-cop/#respond

    No search warrant required. Or you can’t rape the willing.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  61. The New York Post had the story in the saturday paper (bottom of page 6)) of how John Podesta’s GMail account was hacked.

    On Saturday, March 19, 2016 (this is aftere the Florida primary) John Podesta received an e-mail taht purported to come from Google.

    It said that someone in Ukraine had obtained his personal GMail password and attempted unsuccessfully to log in. It said he should change his Gmail password, and helpfully provided a web link for him to do so.

    Podesta didn’t act right away, or maybe didn’t even see it, but his chief of staff, Sara Latham forwarded it to the operations help desk of the Clinton campaign, where a staffer by the name of Charles Delevan wrote back 25 minutes later saying:

    This is a legitimate e-mail. John needs to change his password immediately.”

    And with that, someone in Ukraine (or Russia or a location near Russia) obtained his G-Mail password for real.

    They did not leak it them. Russia was still in the intelligence gathering process.

    It was only after the penetration of the Democratic National Committee was revealed and stopped, and the candidate line-up settled on Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, that Vkladimir Putin must have made a decision to leak wat he had.

    They got Podesta e-mails through August.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  62. Gabriel Hanna (c791b9) — 10/29/2016 @ 9:06 pm

    . I think it is most likely that Huma used Outlook to log on to her HRC email, and it downloaded everything on the server that she ever sent or received. Which is what Outlook does, and plenty of people seem not to know that.

    She probably couldn’t log on to clintonemail from there, as that might have been device specific. There’s an e-mail from Huma Abedin saying she needs access to Hillary Clinton’s Blackberry to access her clintonemail.com account (but Hillary never lets that Blackberry out of her sight.)

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/30/its-outrageous-clintons-aides-had-concerns-about-email-set-up/

    She forwarded stuff to her yahoo account to print out, but obviously the yahoo email has to be accessed somewhere to print.

    So maybe what – the entire yahoo.com account got downloaded??

    She couldn’t access her unclassified state.gov account from outside apparently, that’s why she forwarded stuff to print to clintonemail.com or yahoo.com.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  63. DROPPED
    THE
    PROBE!

    I didn’t think I could make it sound dirty til now.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

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