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FBI Reviewing New Evidence in Hillary Email Investigation

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:29 pm

FBI Director James Comey has sent a letter to Congress indicating that, while he had previously stated that the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails had been completed, evidence from another investigation has emerged, and the FBI will be reviewing it:

“Sources” are saying that the evidence is from another device from this unrelated investigation. (Could it be in the Anthony Weiner investigation? Not impossible.)

It’s difficult to know what to make of this, other than that it is bad for Hillary politically. Here is your thread to discuss it.

UPDATE: I had not seen this story when I first posted, but apparently my Weiner speculation was correct.

120 Responses to “FBI Reviewing New Evidence in Hillary Email Investigation”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (b995d7)

  2. (Could it be in the Anthony Weiner investigation? Not impossible.)

    Apparently so, breaking on the cablers.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  3. Commenters in the other thread pointed to impeaching Hillary before the election (or before she takes office anyway). Of course that is perfectly legal and constitutional.

    The thing to remember is the media. Most people think Clinton was impeached over Monica, and that is not what he was impeached for. The media is responsible for that distortion. I think if Andrew McCarthy’s suggestion were tried, the media would cast enough doubts on the legality and the fairness of it (“she’s not even if office yet and they’re already trying to impeach her, Republicans are so unfair”) that I think it would backfire the way the recall election against Scott Walker did.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  4. Baaaaaaa THUMP-a! What was that?

    Huma-God! A top Maudie aide soon to be thrown under the bus?? Would she? Could she? You bet. Shades of Ehrlichman and Halderman as the ghost of Tricky Dick haunts Halloween… “two of the finest public servants it has been my privilege to know.”

    ‘Oh I’m glad I’m not an Oscar Meyer Weiner…’

    “Don’t be a sap. You’re taking the fall.” – Sam Spade [Humphrey Bogart] ‘The Maltese Falcon,’ 1941

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  5. It was so quiet there for a while. Oh, well.

    Hey, Patterico? I have a thought. How would Ted Cruz have handled this sort of thing, if he had been the R nominee?

    If people wanted Trump, fine. But I want all of those folks to keep in mind how poorly Trump handles these crises…that would normally sink his opponent.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  6. Once again, if they’d have listened to Patterico……..

    MayBee (fbdfc6)

  7. i wonder if sleazy James Comey’s figured out how history is gonna judge his slimy corrupt fbi poofter ass

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  8. there’s no way he can walk it back now though

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  9. is there?

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  10. I had not seen this story when I first posted, but apparently my Weiner speculation was correct.

    Oh, the rich irony: at long last the Clintons may be done in by sexual indiscretions. I hope that my scenario is true and that Weiner is cooperating with the FBI in return for reduced charges on his solicitation of a minor problem.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  11. Comey: Clown nose on.

    SPQR (accc12)

  12. Probably an investigation basxed in New York, being conducted by Preet Bharara, and it’s that other , otherwise nonpublic, investigtion that is all important and not the central FBI investigation.

    That old FBI investigation was actually limited to the classified issue, although now there may be another one about defying a Congressional subpoena and lying to a Congressional committee.

    There’s plenty wrong also in the wrong story of how that e-mail account was set up and managed, and what they said later. The Federal Records Act may have no criminal penalties, but all sorts of laws might have bene broken in managing the e-mail account, making sure it worked and was undicovered.

    That still doesn’t get you into the question of bribery. The Clintons are operating on the idea that if it’s disclosed, and doesn’t go the person in office, but to a spouse (and on top of that, the spouse is doing something to “earn” the money, like giving a speech or consulting) or the money is going to a charitable foundation, and there’s no visible quid pro quo, it’s not bribery any more.

    I have said taht I think Hillary might be indicted after the election but before the inauguration. If so, she will move to have the indictment dismissed.

    She could also be an unidicted co-conspirator.

    Justice Department guidelines probably preclude any indictment before November 9, and Preet Bharara is bound by them. They don’t preclude any indictment between November 9, 2016 and January 19, 2017 and probably the people doing the investigating will feel soem urgency.

    Sammy Finkelman (592d97)


    So what they are talking about is some e-mails found on Anthony Weiner;s devices? Did one thing lead to another?

    They seized a device that belonged to Huma Abedin. Anthony Weiner apparently had used it. so ow they get to see…

    Sammy Finkelman (592d97)

  14. JVW,

    I doubt any prosecutor would give Weiner a deal. They are going to ask him to give truthful testimony?

    Patterico (b995d7)

  15. I actually feel sorry for James Comey right now

    MayBee (fbdfc6)

  16. you nice lady

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  17. Anyone who can give correct speculation at this stage is pretty impressive,
    for all of the people that have enabled the Clintons over the years,
    I bet they have made some bitter enemies.

    Truth is stranger than fiction, so we will see.

    My guess, if Comey doesn’t do something now, the next few WikiLeaks releases will make him and the FBI look like crooked partisan hacks,
    Who knows, maybe this “new finding in an unrelated case” is a smoke screen to hide the real behind the scenes turning wheels.

    Somebody’s ship is about to go down, and some rats are trying to make a safe get away.
    Cudos if you are right.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  18. Or is that Kudos?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  19. Feel sorry for Comey? Not me. It stinks of CMB – Cover My Butt. He only reopened the investigation because he was forced to by public opinion, internal murmurings and wikileak revelations. If nobody had brought it up he’d still be sitting around doing nothing.

    Marce (1cb271)

  20. comey wants to issue more grants of immunity to totally protect hillary regardless of how the election turns out. He wants to make sure every avenue is closed before he’s replaced by President Trump!

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  21. “At this point what difference does it make?” If hillary is elected the frist thing she’ll do is pardon herself and everyone else involved. 4 years until the next election. Plenty of time for the electorate to forget and if she lives to run for re-election her theme will be “At this point what difference does it make?”

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  22. Hum… Although maybe someone was listening to Patterico but it wasn’t someone On the Clinton’s side

    MayBee (fbdfc6)

  23. Team Piggy’s already throwing their bff under the bus:

    Podesta issued a statement Friday afternoon calling on Comey to release more information about the reopened investigation, especially given its timing in relation to the election:

    “FBI Director Comey should immediately provide the American public more information than is contained in the letter he sent to eight Republican committee chairmen. Already, we have seen characterizations that the FBI is ‘reopening’ an investigation but Comey’s words do not match that characterization. Director Comey’s letter refers to emails that have come to light in an unrelated case, but we have no idea what those emails are and the Director himself notes they may not even be significant.

    It is extraordinary that we would see something like this just 11 days out from a presidential election.

    “The Director owes it to the American people to immediately provide the full details of what he is now examining. We are confident this will not produce any conclusions different from the one the FBI reached in July.”

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  24. I doubt any prosecutor would give Weiner a deal. They are going to ask him to give truthful testimony?

    Well, there’s that. Point taken. Maybe Weiner just rolled over and started giving up information through his uncontrollable sobbing? I hope he was fully Mirandized. I also hope he is kept away from the bathtub.

    WEINER: Huma, what do I do now?
    HUMA: Anthony, you were always interested in politics, history. I remember you talking about Obama back in ’02.
    WEINER: Yeah, I still follow social media. I get good stuff in there.
    HUMA: You were around the old-timers, when the party was being organized. They would get the groups together and call them 501c-3s. The “leaders” and the “activists.” And it worked.
    WEINER: Yeah, it worked! (chuckles) Those were the great old days. And we were like the Venezuelan Empire. The Clinton Family led the empire.
    HUMA: (wistfully) It was once. Anthony– (pause) when a plot against the empire failed, the plotters were always given a chance — (pause) — to let their families keep their fortunes.
    WEINER: Yeah, but only the rich guys, Huma. The little guys, they got knocked off and their estates went to George Soros — unless they went home and killed themselves. Then nothing happened. And their families — their families were taken care of, Huma.
    HUMA: (nodding) That was a good break. A nice deal.
    WEINER: Yeah. They went home. Took out their guns. Drove into the park. Put the gun up to their heads. And pulled the trigger. And sometimes they had a little party before they did it.
    HUMA: (extending her hand) Don’t worry about anything, Tony Two-Dicks.
    WEINER: Thanks Huma. Thanks.

    Fade out.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  25. i’m very heartened by this cause of I think it’ll prompt a lot of people who love america to take a second look at Mr. Trump with fresh eyes

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  26. A few thoughts in response to the thread entries above.

    1. Comey didn’t give immunity, that was done by DOJ lawyers, being guided by DOJ supervisors who answer to political appointees. There is only one political appointee in the Bureau and that’s Comey, Everyone below him is hired by him.

    2. Comey has a long history with Hillary Clinton. He was on legal staffer on the Senate Whitewater Committee which investigated that land deal and the Rose Law Firm billing records.

    3. The Wikileaks releases have given him a window not only into the use of the private email server by Clinton, but also the extensive efforts by aides behind the scenes to hide it and obstruct any investigation into it. The only communications which the FBI was allowed to review in its previous investigation were those that were thought to have gone through her server. They got Mills and Samuelson’s computers only because at one time those computers had the archive of Hillary’s emails stored on them when they were being selectively deleted. The Wikileaks release of Podesta’s emails shows behind the scenes communications by aides discussing how to cover up possible illegalities that might be found out if the emails are ever fully recovered. What was the stated basis for Comey’s decision to not recommend prosecution — lack of intent. But when you see evidence that people are trying to actively conceal and cover their tracks, that’s called “consciousness of guilt” and it is evidence used to imply criminal intent.

    4. None of the immunity deals seem to have involved “transactional” immunity — which means the cooperators got a “get out of jail free” card in exchange for their cooperation. Everyone previously given immunity can still be prosecuted if the evidence used to prosecute them was obtained independent of the person’s earlier cooperation. So, Cheryl Mills gets immunity for turning over her computer, and the FBI can’t use anything on her computer against her. BUT, emails involving Cheryl Mills, or between Mills and Clinton and Abedin which were found on a device belonging to Abedin in connection with the Weiner investigation, can be used against Mills in any later case.

    We know from information released by Wikileaks, and by piecing together some of the info released by the FBI, the timeline involving the congressional subpeona of Clinton’s emails, and Mills’ instructions at various times to sanitize those emails and any devices which might contain them, generally support the idea that Mills was working to thwart public disclosure. We also have emails now between campaign officials that all point the finger at Mills for the various obfuscation efforts. So, if there are emails which Comey sees as solidifying either the original case against Clinton, or a case of obstruction against Clinton and/or her aides, that such a case would be based on communications found on Abedin’s phone would not be undermined at all by immunity deals given in the earlier investigation.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  27. She belongs in pinstripes.
    Good thing she’s already a Yankees fan!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  28. MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/28/2016 @ 1:28 pm

    My guess, if Comey doesn’t do something now, the next few WikiLeaks releases will make him and the FBI look like crooked partisan hacks,

    The Russian hack only goes up to about June.

    What hey are releasing now came from John Podesta, who was cc on a lot of mail, and his archive went back years.

    There are also the results of FOIA requests (lawsuits) that just recently were turned over to the Western Journalism Center and the Republican national Committee. The RNC hs something where it looks like “Friends of Bill” (not strictly Clinton Foundation donors or anything in particular) were given favorable treatment on Haito. This became known because people brought into the conspiracy later were less experienced. Theer was someone asking for names of FOBs because she didn’t know all of them. The ones who were not FOBs would be sent to the regular process for contracts regarding Haiti.

    Who knows, maybe this “new finding in an unrelated case” is a smoke screen to hide the real behind the scenes turning wheels.

    there could be more things going on, but this was more e-mail related to the secrecy investigaiton which was disclosed to a Cong committee.

    Somebody’s ship is about to go down, and some rats are trying to make a safe get away.

    I think Vincent Foster mistkenly thought the ship was going down on July 20, 1993 and tried to blackmail the Saudi Arabian Ambassador (who would not be caught up in the maelstorm) for money and got shot – he had forgotten about diplomatic immunity. Then Prince Bandar rushed over quickly to see President Clinton (and Sandy Berger) to ask for help in covering it up, and he got it.

    Even if people think the ship is going down, it may not go down yet – if it does go down, it will sink very very quickly.

    Sammy Finkelman (592d97)

  29. Can’t we just tell Duterte that Hillary has been dealing meth in Manila? Trump too?

    nk (dbc370)

  30. It’s Weiner we’re talking about here–he’s more likely to go out the way David Carradine did than to use The Godfather as an inspiration.

    M. Scott Eiland (f5f84d)

  31. shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 10/28/2016 @ 2:22 pm

    Comey has a long history with Hillary Clinton. He was on legal staffer on the Senate Whitewater Committee which investigated that land deal and the Rose Law Firm billing records.

    They did a report on the Vincent Foster case also, and that report kind of resembles this one.

    . What was the stated basis for Comey’s decision to not recommend prosecution — lack of intent.

    Lack of intent to mishandle classifeied information. And that was the only thing he looked into. But when you see evidence that people are trying to actively conceal and cover their tracks, that’s called “consciousness of guilt” and it is evidence used to imply criminal intent. Yes, but of a different crime. Now maybe Hillary also trabnsferrede classified info to Sidney Blumenthal. There’s also obstruction of a subpooena.

    Sammy Finkelman (592d97)

  32. who’s the puppet now piggy

    dance piggy dance

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  33. It’s interesting to imagine what was going on behind the scenes between Weiner, Huma and the Clintons, and kudos to JVW and Patterico for suspecting this.

    But my first thought was the FBI agents in the unrelated case. Here they were, investigating a has-been politician for soliciting underage teens online, while a huge investigation about the politician who will probably be our next President was being whitewashed by the Bureau. Maybe they were among the agents who objected to the whitewash. Maybe they were low men and women on the FBI totem pole, so their concerns were ignored.

    So when they saw whatever it is they saw, maybe they made sure this information didn’t go to the officials who were part of the FBI whitewash. In fact, I wonder if the word went out that this information was going to be leaked to receptive media, unless someone took it seriously.

    DRJ (15874d)

  34. Excellent comment, shipwreckedcrew, and it’s great to see you again.

    DRJ (15874d)

  35. DRJ — by and large the Bureau is not a political institution. You don’t advance in the Bureau based on politics. Only the Director is a political appointee.

    Comey’s actions in July were not attributed to politics inside the Bureau, they were attributed to a lack of guts, and a genuine belief that the Bureau should not intercede in a Presidential election after the parties have selected their candidates.

    If there were gears grinding in his head on the “politics”, I think he revealed them by his unprecedented press conference which I viewed as an “I’m going to “wing” her so bad that any GOP candidate will be able to beat her if the Dems don’t abandon her at the convention.” Trump, with all his baggage, was the one GOP candidate for whom even the damage done by Comey to her reputation wasn’t enough.

    Now he’s had to sit through not only the mutiny in his own agency, but also a cascade of information from Wikileaks showing that efforts to obstruct the FBI were real and coordinated right to the highest levels of her inner circle.

    I think in his mind, with the new information from the Weiner investigation, he simply reached the point where “enough is enough” regardless of the impact on the election.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  36. @ shipwreckedcrew and @ our host, regarding prosecutions and prosecutors in general:

    Let’s assume for purposes of discussion that Hillary is now indicted and tried on some criminal charge relating to her private email server.

    Isn’t Defense Exhibit 1 the video of Comey’s earlier press conference exonerating her?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  37. well we know inspector dreyfus, made his mark stabbing w with the attack on gonzalez, and setting loose the fitz witchhunt, we have subsequently discovered he had ties to not one, but two clients of the clinton foundation, and now we have the mccabe matter, which seems to have been a bankshot against supporters of the syrian regime as well as a inkind contribution,

    narciso (d1f714)

  38. so where did those emails finally end up in, maybe it was with huma’s former employers, at that islamist cutout,

    narciso (d1f714)

  39. I’m shocked, well you know the drill:

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. Beldar!!! Nice to have an exchange with you again.

    Sure, and in rebuttal, if I’m the prosecutor, I call Comey to the stand and go through his entire press conference and have him point out the information they did not have at the time of the press conference which would have led him to change his answers.

    OR, more likely, I move in limine to preclude the press conference since his comments dealt with whether she violated the statute on mishandling classified information, and IMO the more likely case to be made now is going to be obstruction. He doesn’t have to change his views on whether using a private email server while SOS was a prosecutable offense in order for her to be prosecuted for obstructing the FBI’s investigation and lying to the agents when interviewed.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  41. Unbelievable. The determining factor in this election is going to be which party put up the worse candidate.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  42. Could be she is cleared again just before the election and gets a sympathy boost. I hope I’m wrong and this is legit.

    gbear (70736b)

  43. 34.It’s interesting to imagine what was going on behind the scenes between Weiner, Huma and the Clintons…

    Why leave to the imagination… want a primer?? Rent an oldie budda goodie in political circles… ‘Long Dong Silver.’

    ‘Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce, special orders don’t upset up…’ Burger King jingle, 1980’s.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. yes, I don’t trust him anymore than I can throw him,

    one candidate has said regretable things, one has committed felonies enough to keep leavenworth occupied for 50 years, I guess that’s whats called balance,

    narciso (d1f714)

  45. What’s roiling the election,
    From Portland to Miami?
    Last week it was Trump’s,
    Now it’s Weiner’s,

    nk (dbc370)

  46. I doubt any prosecutor would give Weiner a deal.

    Toss up legal question– in the end, like the last round, the FBI can only recommend or not to the Justice Department to prosecute, right? So is it ultimately going be up to the Attorney General regardless of the recommendation?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. Now Trump should try not to screw this up……

    The Emperor (2ea96c)

  48. Demosthenes,

    The determining factor may be the 13 million votes cast before today. Clinton has to advance the last oppo drop on Trump by tomorrow in mitigation. It will take at least a 4% shift to finish off Clinton and it’s closer to 5% when early voting is taken into account.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  49. @49– what makes you think she has anything left after Access Hollywood and his own behavior? They seem to have been caught flat-footed– or in this case, more likely flacid. This afternoon in Cedar Rapids her response was to throw every past smear on JR up against he all to see what would stick… it had the stink of panic to it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. Weiner doesn’t have anything to offer. No prosecutor would bring a case that rested on his credibility alone.

    But it was the Weiner investigation that produced electronic devices belonging to Weiner and Abedin. From the description, I’m going to guess we are not limited to cell phones here. I think it likely involves some kind of tablet device too.

    They have the devices and whatever is on them. They don’t need anything from Weiner.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  51. 40… with the members of this administration and their incestuous relationship with the Democrats with bylines, it’s not just Six Degrees of Separation, it’s also Six Degrees of Obfuscation, narciso.

    Colonel Haiku (e3b71e)

  52. Yes, thanks, SWC

    As I said before, in my clear moment of realizing my limitations, I am going to watch and not believe entirely anything that is said.
    Yes, it is even possible that this will suck up a lot of O2 and people will ignore the wikileaks info and then this too will be dropped before the election.

    This is a little bit of a combination of a counter-espionage thriller, mob movie, and family business back-stabbing all in one plot.

    Is coming getting pressure to do the right thing?
    Is he being pressured to throw HRC under the bus to save the one?
    Is he just trying to avoid his own embarrassment knowing what is about to come out anyhow?

    I don’t think the Wikileaks stuff is coming out because of Russian governmental interests,
    I think this is a personal vendetta against the Clintons. Now, maybe it’s Putin’s personal agenda,
    but this is the accelerating “gotcha” just like O’Keefe does, release a little something and get them to react and lie, then release a little more and reveal their lie,
    like political torture.

    Are the Dems going to try a Toricelli and have kaine run?

    maybe somebody can launch a retaliatory destruct against Trump, and we have two candidates who can be impeached before they take oath,
    but I guess Obama can choose to pardon only one.

    Wouldn’t that be wild, slam dunk evidence of how corrupt and worse than incompetent HRC is, only to be elected and pardoned anyway…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  53. M Scott Eiland

    If there’s an auto erotica asphyxia heaven…

    Pinandpuller (ae0749)

  54. probably, I only heard of the fmr deputy us atty, in the rocket docket, but yes it’s a lot like game of thrones twisted clans,

    narciso (d1f714)

  55. It is hard for me to believe that the FBI getting involved again is not going to benefit Hillary in some way. I feel that an “ongoing investigation” is going to be used as an excuse for everyone in her campaign, the media, and government (but I repeat myself) to stonewall until after the election.

    If it is going to hurt her in any meaningful way it would have to be with the voters. And this was clearly what the Clinton campaign seems to be thinking, and it seems to be a surprise to them.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  56. .Yes, it is even possible that this will suck up a lot of O2 and people will ignore the wikileaks info and then this too will be dropped before the election.
    Watched some of the 5PM talkies, and realized what may be the reason.
    Comey gets to claim he’s serious about the emails, etc. But in the end this is a big nothing burger.

    But right now, it’s the only thing the newsies are talking about.
    So other things, like (f.i.) the McCabe donation, are completely lost in the noise.

    Kishnevi (dfdff5)

  57. A pardon does not bar impeachment. Moreover, the forgiven has to accept it and that acceptance can be used as an admission of guilt for the impeachment. It’s not going to happen. Hillary will be standing in front of Minos, Rhadamanthus and Aeacus and saying it’s all part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.

    nk (dbc370)

  58. I was just now driving on a major artery in West Nashville, Charlotte Pike, and I passed a good sized protest.

    I thought that it was #BLM but it turns out they were protesting outside Discount Tires, because the owner gave a million bucks to keep pot illegal.

    I guess that’s why the protest was in the late afternoon.

    Pinandpuller (ae0749)

  59. Believe it when I see something come of it, but they sure were pushing the early voting. I’m another who thinks Comey wouldn’t have done this unless there was something very significant.

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  60. Finally found something that prompts Hillary to hold a news conference!

    Teh Stroking Gun… Dikileaks…

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  61. they would have to acknowledge the mccabe matter first, the amount of barbara streissand (ht rush) that passes for news,

    narciso (d1f714)

  62. Do you think trump has something to do with this? he made that comment in august about Weiner and the danger of his being close to state secrets….weird!

    Patricia (5fc097)

  63. Maudie is in panic mode.

    She’s holding a ‘who me?’ presser in Des Moines.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. she’s such a sick and pathetic little pig

    happyfeet (832e46)

  65. Rumors? More rumors….we don’t know what to believe??!!

    The Wikiwitch of the West’s broom is on fire. Foam the runway… land like a Pence.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  66. Maudie can’t handle Comey.
    Maudie can’t manage Huma.

    Putin can’t wait.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. Perv Pummels Pantsuited Pantload’s Presidential Plans

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  68. Pantsuited Pantload’s Prevaricating Presser Poses Problems

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  69. August of 2015?

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  70. The media are already in full CHA mode. They’ve opened up their Rolodexes for shocked “former prosecutors and Justice Department officials” to unload on Comey for this “highly unusual move”.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Griftah Hag Brought Down By Weenie-Waggah

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  72. “Right now, we don’t know what to believe?”

    — Hillary Clinton

    May be true, but we surely know who NOT to believe!

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  73. plus her husband likes to rape young girls with his herpes penis

    happyfeet (832e46)

  74. “If Dems have anything left on Trump, expect it to drop soon now to distract from the FBI news,”

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  75. Clinton: FBI needs to explain renewed email probe

    CBS news headline at Clinton:

    CBS covering for Hellary

    joe (debac0)

  76. She doesn’t handle surprises well. It’s an unexpected event out of her immediate control to have a prepared response… you know, the kind of crap a president has to deal with at 3 AM.

    The stink of panic oozes from her. A quick three question presser then off the stage, back to the travelling crypt for a transfusion.

    “Damage control, report!” – Captain Lee Crane [David Hedison] almost any episode, ‘Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  77. I don’t know how damning any of the emails will be, outside of the fact their existence was lied about.

    But I do delight in knowing it was an investigation of Weiner knowingly preying on an underage girl.

    Weiner is the skeev he ever was, and this was always going to happen. He was a loose cannon and that

    was proved here years ago. So no one here needs to be told, but told ya so to any stranger that wanders in.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  78. What an odd couple, this Abedin and Weiner: Joo-H8er & Self-Flagellating Joo

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  79. Indeed.

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  80. Poor Comey, what a pickle for a man who seems unable to decide who he wants to be. Praised by the Dems just a few short months ago and castigated by the Republicans. Now the Dems are piling on and the Republicans see him as some sort of political savior.

    Dana (d17a61)

  81. Stuff like this is why I don’t vote early.

    nk (dbc370)

  82. Not surprising, nk, re a demand for Comey to step down. He lost all credibility with other agents in the bureau after the decision this summer. They may be speaking anonymously, but they’ve made it known loudly and clearly. Now this today, he can’t redeem himself.

    Dana (d17a61)

  83. How many early voters are kicking themselves, or are they true believers and this won’t matter?

    Dana (d17a61)

  84. Maude has pulled the charcoal Chairman Mao suit out of mothballs.

    Could that be strategery?

    Causing the LIV (youtube is their primary source) to mistake current events with the carefully scripted UN event?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  85. My impression is that early voters are primarily the party faithful, and a way for your friendly neighborhood ward heeler to know if you are one.

    nk (dbc370)

  86. How many early voters are kicking themselves, or are they true believers and this won’t matter?

    Dana (d17a61) — 10/28/2016 @ 5:11 pm

    Was Dustin one of ’em? I wonder…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  87. I think some of this stuff has been up already, but the NYPost has a cover with:

    “Stroking Gun”
    “Erection Day Scandal”

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  88. Hmmmm… FBI gets access to un-Bleach-Bit’d Clinton/Abedin emails through Weiner’s sexual deviancy with a minor.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  89. There’s no such thing as voter fraud. Ask any democrat.

    1. CHICAGO (CBS) — Susie Sallee was buried in 1998. Yet records show she voted in Chicago 12 years later.

    Victor Crosswell died in 1994, but records show he’s voted six times since then.
    And then there’s Floyd Stevens. Records show he’s voted 11 times since his death in 1993.

    “It’s crazy,” Sharon Stevens Anderson, Stevens’ daughter, tells CBS 2’s Pam Zekman. “I don’t see how people can be able to do something like that and get away with it.”
    Those are just a few of the cases CBS 2 Investigators found by merging Chicago Board of Election voter histories with the death master file from the Social Security Administration.

    In all, the analysis showed 119 dead people have voted a total of 229 times in Chicago in the last decade. This just scratches the surface. An estimated 7,000 fraudulent votes are cast in Chicago alone each election.

    2. Friday, October 28, 2016 08:02AM
    The key to one of the most contentious presidential elections in history could be right here in the Keystone state.

    Republican candidate Donald Trump has made allegations of fraud at polls in the City of Philadelphia.

    So, Action News dug through a decade’s worth of election and death records to see if there was any truth to the claim.

    Some of what Action News investigation found was stunning.

    Rita A. Pezzano, who passed a decade ago, was found listed as an active voter. Her daughter-in-law was shocked when we shared the news.

    “I was about seven months pregnant when she died,” said Audrey Marchiano.

    “So she has been dead about 10 years now?” asked Investigative Reporter Wendy Saltzman.

    “Yes,” said Marchiano.

    Pezzano passed in 2006. But state voting records show the South Philadelphia native still listed as an “Active Voter” who cast ballots in 2008, 2012, 2014, and the 2016 primary election.

    Wendy Saltzman asked Marchiano if there was any way Pezzano could have voted in 2016.

    “Not if she was dead,” Marchiano replied. “So no.”

    Our investigation also found Joseph B. Haggarty resting peacefully in a Bucks County cemetery. His grave marker confirmed he died in 2010, but records show he voted five years after his death.

    “Any chance he voted in 2015?” Wendy Saltzman asked a neighbor.

    “I’m sure he didn’t, personally. God rest his soul, he’s long gone,” he replied.

    Action News also found Paul Bunch, who died in 2006, also cast a vote in this year’s primary which was nearly ten years after death records show he died.

    Wendy Saltzman asked Bunch’s former neighbor if that seemed impossible.

    “I believe so. It sounds like it, unless he is coming back from the dead,” he said.

    Action News also visited the former neighborhood of Concetta Gallara. Records show she died in 2009, but voted in 2013.

    When asked if there was a way Gallara could have voted, her former neighbor Jeanie Pizzo told Saltzman, “I don’t know, it’s awfully funny. Unless a dead person came out of their grave.”

    This is all too common throughout all Philadelphia precincts sometimes reporting 105% of voters voting Democrat. That’s right: 105%!

    3. A woman in Hollywood, Maryland is the latest in a number of early voters to claim that her ballot was switched to Hillary Clinton after she had tried to vote for Donald Trump.

    Noting that she had seen reports on the news of votes being flipped, the woman said, “I went in and voted a straight Republican ticket and thank God I went back and checked and they had switched my vote from Trump to (Hillary).”

    She said that she had to get the vote changed back by alerting election officials, who simply told her to vote for a second time.

    “I went back the second time and made sure they didn’t change it,” she concluded.
    As we reported earlier this week, voters in numerous areas of Texas have made a series of complaints that votes are being switched from Trump to Clinton.
    4. By Patricia Mazzei, Monique O. Madan and David Smiley

    A 74-year-old woman tasked with opening envelopes sent by Miami-Dade County voters with their completed mail ballots was arrested Friday after co-workers caught her illegally marking ballots, resulting in an unknown — but small — number of fraudulent votes being cast for mayoral candidate Raquel Regalado.
    Investigators linked Gladys Coego, a temporary worker for the county elections department, to two fraudulent votes, but they suspect from witness testimony that she submitted several more.
    Coego, of Westchester, turned herself in to the Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center on Friday morning. She was charged with two felony counts of marking another person’s ballot. Her bond was set at $10,000.
    In a separate election-fraud case, authorities also arrested a second woman for unlawfully filling out voter-registration forms on behalf of United for Care, the campaign to legalize medical marijuana in Florida.
    The Miami-Dade state attorney’s office accused Tomika Curgil, 33, of filling out forms for five people without their consent. She also submitted at least 17 forms for people who apparently don’t exist — and several forms for people who are dead.
    Police officers arrested Curgil at her Liberty City home Friday morning and charged her with five felony counts of submitting false voter-registration information. Her bond was set at $125,000.

    Read more here:

    5. A former resident of Alexandria, Virginia, is facing up to 40 years in prison after he allegedly used fake names to fill out voter registration applications.
    Vafalay Massaquoi, 30, is facing four felony charges related to allegations of voter registration fraud, the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office said. Each charge carries a maximum of 10 years in prison.

    In the spring of 2016, Massaquoi was registering new voters as an employee of a local advocacy group. According to the Commonwealth’s Attorney, Massaquoi fabricated applications and used fake names to fill out the registration forms.
    While the Commonwealth’s Attorney did not name the group Massaquoi was employed by, it appears he worked with the New Virginia Majority, an advocacy group aligned with the Democratic Party.

    Source: Man Charged With Filing Fake Voter Registration Applications in Va. | NBC4 Washington
    Follow us: @nbcwashington on Twitter | NBCWashington on Facebook

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  90. and the sailors say hilree you a fine girl what a good wife you would be

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  91. Toobin on CNN quite appalled that Comey violated the FBI’s “principal” that you don’t release something like this 11 days before an election. It needs to be 60 days.

    Dana (d17a61)

  92. I linked and commented about it in comments to an earlier post, but here is another link to the webpage for Showtime’s currently-running documentary “Weiner.” It’s obviously even more newsworthy and topical now than Showtime probably expected — note that the cable channel is owned by CBS, so let’s not pretend they’re anything other than Democratic operatives working hand-in-glove with Clinton Hivemind Central — but whatever they intended, the scenes are astonishingly raw.

    And the mind simply boggles at the egotism involved when Sr. y Sra. Danger approved the shooting of all this video. During a long pause near the end, one of those painful ones focusing on Weiner’s face as he realizes how he’s screwed everything up again, the cameraman asks: “Why are you letting me shoot this?” It’s the first time I’ve ever heard a documentary maker express astonishment at his subject’s compulsion to archive and, indeed, publicize his continuing self-immolation.

    Suffice it to say that Anthony Weiner aspired to a tragic flaw as epic as Bill Clinton’s, but has mostly achieved a series of comic pratfalls.

    And Huma is indeed a Hillary clone, sort of the Hillarybot Mark II. The documentary makes abundantly clear that from its inception to its bitter end, Weiner’s mayoral bid was deliberately patterned after Hillary’s “I’ve forgiven him, now you should too”-act during the Lewinsky scandal and Bubba’s impeachment. Watching the cosmic payback for that hubris unfold as Weiner blows himself up again is like watching a Roadrunner cartoon, with Wyle E. Coyote repeatedly hung in mid-air for just a moment after the cliff overhang has already collapsed, just before the wind-whistling noise starts and he plummets to his certain doom.

    I’m sure the Clintonistas greenlighted the pre-election release of this documentary on the theory that it would make Huma, and by extension, Hillary, seem human and sympathetic — and that’s how her base will indeed react to it. But the later scenes with Huma in them, in particular, make clear how calculating and manipulative she is by nature. I’ll repeat my earlier recommendation with a “trending up” indicator.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  93. sleazey comey trying so hard to find him some jesus

    loretta says eat my bear

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. *sleazy* comey i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. I’ve pointed out that the antihero in house of cards, is a philadelphia congressman with impulse control issues like weiner, hence he is easy to manipulate and ultimately eliminate by frank underwood, that show was also topical in the second season, when the reporters tries to sneak into the big server farms to cache a telltale conversation by the latter character, he ends up in jail and resurfaces in season 4,

    narciso (d1f714)

  96. Carl Bernstein has an interesting interview out today. I read it on RealClearPolitics. He says that there have been some murmurs in the last couple days in national security circles about new revelations that might come out over the weekend. The assumption was that it was something coming from Wikileaks.

    But Comey said today that he was briefed on the new emails yesterday, and decided this morning to update his testimony to Congress in the form of his letter.

    Weiner’s latest troubles began back in August, and he split with Abedin about that same time. I remember a picture of her and Hillary together on Martha’s Vineyard, and the reporter noted she was no longer wearing her wedding ring.

    Its very likely that these emails were discovered weeks ago. Comey knows that he already has a mutiny on his hands inside the Bureau over his original decision back in July. Now the Bureau is in possession of additional information that advances that investigation.

    AND, it came out this week that the Bureau’s No. 2 is married to a woman who ran for State Senate in Virginia and received $500,000 in campaign funds from Terry McAulliffe.

    I think Comey knew that the existence of the emails could not be kept secret — not even for another 11 days given that many people inside the Bureau knew about them, and apparently some national security folks outside the Bureau knew about them.

    Comey could not sit back and say nothing if they were going to come out — not on the back of the scandal involving his No. 2 guy.

    So Comey had to go public with the emails rather than have it look like the FBI was sitting on them.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  97. Beldar,

    Itsp unsurprising that Huma and Hillary, being so similar, also chose the same kind of men to marry: weak, immoral, victims in their own eyes, and egotistical narcissists.

    Dana (d17a61)

  98. Frankly, Killary is so corrupt I believe she’s wasting her time here when she would make a fine president of Venezuela and not have all that FBI crap to contend with. OTOH, her plan may just be to turn the US into another, bigger, better Venezuela with more to steal, more power to destroy and sexier restaurants.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  99. @102 Itsp unsurprising that Huma and Hillary, being so similar, also chose the same kind of men to marry: weak, immoral, victims in their own eyes, and egotistical narcissists.

    Every princess seeks to find herself a froggie.

    “We were made to suffer.” C-3PO [Anthony Daniels] ‘Star Wars’ 1977

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  100. loretta say

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  101. I pledge allegiance

    to the hag

    and whatever she gets away with.

    To screw the republic

    with hanging chads

    to thwart the electorate,

    by regulation and justice for sale.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  102. win or lose stinkypig clinton ain’t ever gonna be president anymore than i’m ever gonna be deney terrio

    it’s written in the stars we can’t change ours

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  103. #nevertrumpers hardest hit! That sound you hear is the collective sphincters of Patterico, Erickson, Glenn Beck et al clamping shut because they realize Trump will now win in a landslide and they have no place at the table. You losers chose poorly and we on the Trump Train will not forget.

    PaddyO' (a8d76a)

  104. PaddyO’, I think illary’s still going to win, unfortunately.
    But if Trump does happen to win, we can’t be holding grudges against the #NeverTrumpers. Win or lose, we need to bring everyone together under a “right of center” big tent in order to defeat the Left.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  105. I wouldn’t count on that being the outcome of the election PaddyO’.

    You have my streak of bad luck in these things to overcome.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  106. I guess it’s now up to the IRS to announce that they’ve referred Trump’s audit to the Criminal Investigation Division. Odds?

    You know, this election could be fun.

    nk (dbc370)

  107. well they can drop a lien like they did on o’donnell, do I need to revisit macho grande,

    narciso (d1f714)

  108. Comey’s investigation has always reminded me of that scene from Back to School, with Hillary Clinton as Thornton Mellon and James Comey as the Dean of the college.

    mh (3371d0)

  109. I don’t trust insiders.

    Premier Riding Longhorns

    Goddam horses.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  110. Paxton whitehead’s character is a spot.on metaphor for NeverTrump

    urbanleftbehind (e4897a)

  111. 64. Patricia (5fc097) — 10/28/2016 @ 4:06 pm

    Do you think trump has something to do with this? he made that comment in august about Weiner and the danger of his being close to state secrets….weird! </blockquote. He said that again now.

    I thought he didn't know what he was talking about. Weiner wouldn't know any classified information. They wouldn't tell him. What he would know is political secrets of the Clintons (they are very interested in keeping him at a high standard of living) and possibly some criminal activities related to money.

    Now it turns out that Huma Abedin had four or five e-mail addresses:

    1) Her classified account, which was on a closed system.

    2) Her unclassified account, which could send lined to the outside world.

    3) Her account, possibly accessible only on Hillary's Blackberry, or possibly also on a specially linked device she had.

    4) Her address.

    And she also had:

    5) A device and email used by Anthony Weiner for his campaigns.

    She may have had to download files from her yahoo account to that (laptop computer?) to print them.

    Another possibility is using a USB drive to transfer files downloaded to her linked computer so they could be printed. The operating system may have backed up stuff.

    Now they are saying a search warrant wasn't needed. Unless maybe it is needed for other devices.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  112. MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/28/2016 @ 3:41 pm

    Are the Dems going to try a Toricelli and have kaine run? </blockquote. No. Bill Clinton had a lot to do with that – and also with getting Andrew Cuomo to drop out of the Democratic primary for Governor in 2002 – but in this case, Hillary Clinton is Bill Clinton's favorite candidate.

    I could imagine, in extremis, maybe an Alan Hevesi: Get her across the finish line, so she can do a plea bargain, and not take office in exchange for no jail. But that didn't work out so well for Alan Hevesi. Four years later, Alan Hevesi had to plead guilty to different charges and he spent twenty months in jail.

    On October 12, 2006, Albany County District Attorney David Soares’ office acknowledged that it was officially investigating actions by Hevesi regarding the public employee hired to chauffeur his wife.[21]

    On October 23, 2006, the “Ethics Commission concluded Hevesi ‘knowingly’ violated state law.”[22]

    On November 3, 2006, Hevesi was ordered by the office of state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer to pay the state $90,000 — in addition to the $83,000 he has already paid – in compensation for what has been deemed an improper use of a state employee.[23] Hevesi said was just a mistake and apologized in a new TV ad, in which he says, “I’m asking you to weigh my mistake against my 35 years of public service, I’m human…I’m a good comptroller who did a dumb thing.”[24]

    He pled guilty before the start of his next term, and the New York State legislature selected a new comptroller who was not a Republican (he’s still there)

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  113. 80. Colonel Haiku (97d6f1) — 10/28/2016 @ 4:48 pm

    What an odd couple, this Abedin and Weiner: Joo-H8er & Self-Flagellating Joo

    She’s not a Jew-hater.

    None of this Saudi Jew hatred (or of Israel) is on the level.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  114. 111. nk (dbc370) — 10/28/2016 @ 6:30 pm

    I guess it’s now up to the IRS to announce that they’ve referred Trump’s audit to the Criminal Investigation Division. Odds?

    Unlikely, because they’d have to refer the tax lawyers and accountants, too.

    You know, this election could be fun.

    but Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to the FBI accusing it of sitting on an accusation of illegal co-ordination between the Trump campaign and Russia:

    The pugilistic Reid, who plans to retire after finishing out this term in Congress, penned a blistering letter to Comey Sunday, accusing the FBI chief of holding back “explosive” information about Donald Trump’s close Russian ties…

    ….“In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government – a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity,” he said. “I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public…and yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.”

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  115. And he also accused him of possibly breaking the law by disclosing the Weiner related emails.

    “Your [sic] rushed to take this step eleven days before a presidential election, despite the fact that for all you know, the information you possess could be entirely duplicative of the information you already examined which exonerated Secretary Clinton,” he said….

    …I led the fight to get you confirmed because I believed you to be a principled public servant,” Reid concluded. “With the deepest regret, I now see that I was wrong.”

    See also:

    The top Democrat in the Senate on Sunday accused FBI director James Comey of violating federal law by showing favoritism to “one political party over another” by publicly stating that he had been made aware of new evidence in the Clinton email investigation.

    “I am writing to inform you that my office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act,” Senator Minority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nevada) letter to Comey reads.

    “Through your partisan actions, you may have broken the law,” Reid said.

    From the CBS story:

    The Nevada Democrat went on to insinuate Comey’s violation of the Hatch Act, which prohibits “activity directed towards the success or failure” of a candidate by executive branch employees.

    “[Y]our highly selective approach to publicizing information, along with your timing, was intended for the success or failure of a partisan candidate or political group,” Reid wrote.

    At this point, Clinton and company know that nothing is going to come out from the FBI or any part of the Department of Justice before November 8, (and if they are wrong, there’s nothing to lose anyway) so Hillary Clinton boldly demands that more be revealed, knowing taht theer can be no response, thereby letting people conclude that Comey is covering up evidence of her innocence, and Senator Reid and others forthrightly insinuate that the bias is against Clinton, knowing those words will get into the media.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

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