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Patterico (bcf524) — 10/7/2016 @ 9:40 pm

Pretty fancy digs for a hostage video.

“I was wrong to stay in.”– Gov. Fred Picker [Larry Hagman, aka Dallas’ JR-surprise!] ‘Primary Colors’, 1998

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/7/2016 @ 10:01 pm

A Cruz endorsement of DJT and a DJT apology. My, what interesting times in which we live.

Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 10/7/2016 @ 10:20 pm

He’s done.

Dejectedhead (033d76) — 10/7/2016 @ 11:04 pm

Did he rape anyone?

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/7/2016 @ 11:15 pm

You know what? I’m happy. I think Trump will lose even if the Cubs win the World Series. Go Cubbies!

nk (dbc370) — 10/7/2016 @ 11:51 pm

A truth to help salve Ted’s conscience: DJT was a Democrat when he exclaimed his sexual prowess in that Bush encounter.

Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:01 am

Hillary is so awful that Trump might get away with this one.
Depends on what sort of October surprise(s) Roger Stone has.
So far it looks like the Trump campaign was hoping WikiLeaks would do the October surprise for them for free.
So Trump might win, but he is going to have to hit her hard and try to knock her out of contention… that means he has to have dirt. Does he?
Maybe a nice steamy pack of emails along with some video of her doing something untoward.

Its October 8th, and already Hillary has hit him with calling a woman fat, now its about his coarse sex talk.
What next?
Trump is getting hit with sleaze, not issues, but he can’t seem to fight back against the sleaziest woman in politics.
If he doesn’t have the oppo research in hand and ready to go, he deserves to lose. Trump knew that this was where the race was going.

He’s in a corner.
My guess is he hits back her hard on Sunday. Trump isn’t the guy for rising above it and talking about the issues. He’s probably gonna elect to slug it out, but what he has better be so good that everyone forgets the crotch grabber

Or he could just go with it and resurrect 2live crew to be his NSFW anthem band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnfopYQLcn0 Not Safe At All For Work or anything else

steveg (5508fb) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:07 am

Ha, ha, ha! Roger Stone writes fiction. He got The National Enquirer to publish some about Cruz because all the perverts and degenerates preferred Trump as the weaker opponent for Hillary and he’d be the consolation prize if she lost to him. That ain’t gonna happen again.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:34 am

All I can say is, “grab ’em by the p***y” accurately describes the policies every thug and
dictator from Benghazi to Moscow to Raqaa to Pyongyang has adopted before Obama was even
sworn in, and throughout the tenures of his vile, contemptible, gulli’ble, and weak
Secretaries of State Clinton and Kerry for the past eight years.

Putin’s grabbing Obama’s and Kerry’s p***ies again.

http://observer.com/2016/10/putins-activation-of-iskander-m-ballistic-missile-is-a-message-to-obama/

The KGB officer in the Kremlin seeks one last, grand strategic humiliation for our president before he leaves office

It’s long been obvious that Vladimir Putin and his inner circle view Barack Obama with utter contempt. To the hard men in Moscow, who got their schooling in the KGB, our diffident, wordy Ivy League lawyer president is a weakling—almost a caricature of everything they despise about the postmodern West.

Here the Kremlin mirrors most Russians, who find Obama a puzzling and contemptible man. This is nothing new. I’ve heard remarkable put-downs of our commander-in-chief for years, going back to 2008, even from the mouths of highly educated Russians. Their comments are invariably earthy, insulting, and nowhere near politically correct.

…Take Syria, the foreign policy nightmare that hangs darkly over Obama’s legacy. The pathetic attempts of John Kerry, Obama’s sad-sack secretary of state, to assert America’s role in that sordid conflict have been rudely rebuffed by Moscow. The Kremlin has made it indelibly clear that it has no interest in further parley with Washington about Syria: We won, you lost, get over it.

This has now descended into farce, with Russia’s foreign ministry tweeting mocking insults at America’s top diplomat. Like the infamous honey badger, the Kremlin simply doesn’t care one whit what we think. We can at least count our blessings that Secretary Kerry hasn’t dispatched James Taylor to Moscow.

To be fair to the Kremlin, why on earth would the Obama administration think it had a dog in the Syrian fight anymore? Over three years ago, the White House outsourced American policy there to Moscow, as was obvious to everybody except Obama and his coterie of self-styled foreign policy geniuses. We gave Putin what he wanted in Syria—preserving his Assad client regime while demonstrating Russian resolve and power—and for that we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

…Then, early this morning, another Flanker violated Estonian airspace—fully armed and with its transponder turned off. This incident, the fifth violation of Estonian airspace by the Kremlin so far this year, is significant since that country belongs to NATO. None of the Baltic republics have their own fighter jets. That’s handled by a composite Alliance jet squadron. If the Russians keep sending armed jets over Estonia, the odds of a confrontation with NATO fighters rise dramatically.

Today’s biggest news, however, comes from Estonian reports that the Russian military is sending Iskander-M missiles to Kaliningrad on a civilian freighter. It’s expected to dock in Kaliningrad today with its alarming cargo.

The Iskander-M system, called SS-26 by NATO, is the replacement of the Scud missile of American Gulf War memory. It has a range of 300 miles and can carry either a conventional or a nuclear warhead. An Iskander-M based in Kaliningrad can strike targets deep in Poland and across the whole Baltic region. Make no mistake, this is primarily an offensive weapons system…

Make no mistake; I’m under no illusions about Obama. I know he’s been fundamentally transforming this country. And by that I mean destroying it in every way possible. Including diplomatically by trashing this country’s reputation as a reliable ally.

But all communist and former communist intelligence such as Putin, and commie leaders as well, never had anything but contempt for idiotic,c overeducated, pampered Westerners like Obama who would betray their countries. Muslim dictators and thugs share that quality, BTW. All of them despise weakness (that’s the real recruiting, tool, if you recall OBL’s insight into the Muslim mind that people naturally prefer the strong horse to the weak horse, and we’ve been the weak horse for 8 years). It doesn’t matter if our perpetual Occidental college freshman President has switched sides because he hasn’t learned anything about the world since 1980 or if he’s afraid to do anything because he’s intimidated by Putin. Their contempt for him would be just as great either way.

This part is amusing; Schindler ends with this:

…Not to mention that Putin is surely aware that his window of opportunity is closing soon. The campaign of the very Kremlin-friendly Donald Trump is in free-fall, so Moscow will likely have to contend with an angry Hillary Clinton in the White House in a little more than three months. She knows all too well that the Kremlin has pulled out all the stops to hurt her election chances—between spying, hacking, intimidation, and leaks of Democratic emails—and if the Clintons excel at anything it’s personal vendettas. The time for Putin to act, therefore, is now. Get ready, it’s going to be a bumpy autumn.

Putin, the Mullahs, the AQ affiliated Ansar al Sharia that overran Hillary!’s State Dept. facility an Benghazi and killed Stevens, Smith, Dogherty and Woods are not the least bit afraid of her. Recall when the NORKs sank the patrol craft ROKS Cheonan in spring of 2010 (and then celebrated our inaction by shelling Yeonpyeong island in the fall)? Hillary! was just as feckless as Obama. I realize Susan Rice was also a cabinet official, hence not subordinate the Hlllary!. But it was Clinton running off to South Korea and shooting her mouth off about how we were going to respond strongly to this attack.

By, uhh, working closely with the “international community” (now there’s an oxymoron). Everyone who isn’t a complete fool knew how that was going to turn out.

Obama, Clinton, and Rice all got pantsed by the “international community.” All they could eke out was a UNSC resolution condemning the attack, whoever committed it. Because the Chinese vetoed and resolution that even hinted that the NORKs did it. Hillary! was involved in the negotiations with the CHICOMs in Beijing. And they weighed and measured her, laughed, and said “Shut up and go make us a sammich, b***h.” So we were left watching the pathetic spectacle of Hillary! and Rice trying to spin their complete and total humiliation as if it were some sort of success. I always said the US would pay the price for failing to respond to the NORKs’ attacks on sovereign South Korean territory. And we have, many times over. Please read the entire article at the link, as it details part of the latest installment on that price we’ve been paying.

Out of mouths of children and fools sometimes come amazing insights. At beginning of Obama’s presidency Biden warned that shortly into his first term, some foreign adversary would test Obama. Biden was right. Obama was tested. And he failed the test, and every test that followed. And Hillary! failed every test right along with him.

I can only conclude they like having their p***ies grabbed by America’s enemies. All three of them.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:39 am

So republicans like blow me mike lee are dumping trump. This is from a man whose relgion permits marriage to more than one poosy.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:24 am

“Dumping”? Mike Lee was never for Trump. Not, not ever.

Paul Ryan dumped Trump. Too little, too late. Only confirms that he’s nothing more than a spineless crapweasel.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:33 am

I should have mentioned that Schindler is correct; the Clintons do excel at personal vendettas. But only when it comes to smearing and assassinating the characters of the women Billy Jeff has raped, groped, or otherwise sexually assaulted. That’s about the size of the opponent they can handle. They can beat up defenseless girls. But Putin, the Mullahs, the CHICOMs, h3ll even Ayman al Zawahiri and Kim Jong Un are entirely out of their league. I wouldn’t put it past Hillary! to sic the IRS, DoJ, EPA, or any other executive branch department or agency that can ruin someone’s life and business on their domestic enemies. Outside the borders of the US she is a laughing stock. At least among our adversaries and declared enemies. I’m sure she’s popular with her cronies and donors as they undoubtedly feel they got their money’s worth.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:43 am

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
The night Trump exposes the pant suited biotch to the nation as a rape enabler to Bill.
This should be delightful.
And T.B. 12 is back for revenge.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:12 am

It’s going to be a Get Out The Vote election. Both of these “persons” are too slimy to motivate a lot of people to spontaneously go out and vote for them. Which organization do you think will be better at GOTV?

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:24 am

yes yes Mitt Romney likes his boys pliable and spineless

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:50 am

Mr, Trump on the other hand likes to grab things by the stinkypig!

gonna grab that sad economy brother say amen

gonna grab onto failmerica and make her great again

gonna grab our porous borders make em clench up tight

gonna grab up them doritos crunch and munch all night

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:36 am

A lot of boys and men talk crudely like that among themselves, and guess what? They’re the guys who are the luckiest with women. Never understood why, but women go for that type. Nice guys finish last.

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:15 am

She knows all too well that the Kremlin has pulled out all the stops to hurt her election chances—between spying, hacking, intimidation, and leaks of Democratic emails—and if the Clintons excel at anything it’s personal vendettas.

She has no way of knowing what Moscow has on her, or that the Kremlin “has pulled out all the stops to hurt her election chances…”.

As if Putin wouldn’t save the really juicy stuff for when she’s really feeling her oats in office.

JP (536e85) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:26 am

Which is worse: DJT locker room talk, or HRC telling her Secret Service agents to f&ck off?

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:48 am

Which is worse: DJT locker room talk, or HRC telling her Secret Service agents to f&ck off?

gp

Imagine Trump groping someone you care about because he sees himself as a ‘star’ and they will ‘let him do it’. Now imagine Hillary cussing at them.

The ‘look over there’ defense is a tried and true staple of the partisan. Squirrel!

Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:11 am

this video a lot underscores how Mr. Trump has a positive outlook and a can-do attitude

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:13 am

UPDATE: Here’s Mike Lee blasting Trump over this. I love Mike Lee.

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:36 am

Mr. Trump high in yo summer sky

making vampires sparkle

we stopped in the colonnade

you said he patriarchal

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:38 am

@Dustin:The ‘look over there’ defense is a tried and true staple of the partisan. Squirrel!

I’d say that the “squirrel” here is the exhumation of comments made 11 years go, released at the same time as another Wikileaks dump on Hillary Clinton.

Not surprised either, that Hillary Clinton by implication disqualifies her own husband from his presidency, or that the media takes it at face value without mentioning the implication.

I am not the only one old enough to remember the 60 minutes episode where they explained that Bill Clinton talking like that is just no big deal anymore, and in fact Mike Wallace used the word to Sally Quinn (which the network bleeped).

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:41 am

Patterico, we all knew this was going to happen. Right?

HRC has said awful things and done terrible things, but our MSM and oikophobic culture will instead focus on this.

Simon Jester (485863) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:43 am

Plus, I don’t think even HF believes in Trump anymore.

I keep expecting the well written and thoughtful version of him you linked to.

But like Trump, he can’t help himself.

Simon Jester (485863) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:45 am

“I am sickened by what I heard today,” Ryan said in a statement.

“Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified.“

oh my goodness

it’s nauseating how sleazy servile romney-boy Paul Ryan doubles down on the rank condescending sexism

we need Mr. Trump’s leadership now more than ever

this is culture rot

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:47 am

I would like to say that Trump has grown up in the last 11 years since that recording.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:58 am

yes yes Mr. Bob

Mr. Trump heard his nation’s call and answered it

now they want to destroy him for his temerity

but he’s already walked through the cathartic and cleansing fires of hell to stand before that pig and say

not one more inch, pig

not one more goddamn inch

this far and no further

and then we’re gonna back this thing up

yup

I know you scared of that cock-a-doodle-do

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:03 am

if a woman poses in more than ten different styles of bikini on the internet, when she doesn’t work for a modeling agency, being objectified is her objective.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:17 am

We can’t ever elect someone who’s used locker room talk. So let’s go with the person who takes money from the Saudis.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:20 am

If Dustin’s sister is a groupie with the band, or “dates” an NBA,MLB,NFL player – he has ef all to say about it.

It’s her life, not yours.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:24 am

There never would have been a Trump candidacy without the Clinton team proving sexual indiscretions by a president do not compromise his fitness to serve in office or in his post-presidency. The left has successfully pushed 60’s values into every nook and cranny of American society. Why are we shocked when an oversexed loudmouthed playboy exposes himself?

crazy (d3b449) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:36 am

“tried and true staple of the partisan.” Well, yes, I am partisan. Weren’t we discussing candidates in an election? Is partisanship off limits discussing politics at Patterico Oct 2016 for some reason?

I despise the choices we have, but if fratty locker-room boasts disqualify a candidate, then let’s just go ahead and bar all men from elected office.

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:39 am

Patterico,

Mike Crapo and Kelly Ayotte have issued statements as well.

Rick Ballard (b9de6e) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:44 am

The illary campaign is making a wise calculation that a lot of puritanical Republicans would feel more comfortable with a President who has recklessly compromised national security than they would be comfortable with a President who talks like a sailor behind closed doors — and even sometimes in public! (LOL)

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:47 am

Matthew “made landfall” as a cat one this morning – somewhere in south carolina

it meandered a bit then crept north and mischievously grabbed Shep by the

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:47 am

Hugh Hewitt is calling for Trump to drop out of the race, as he fears there’s even more oppo research that will drop during the forthcoming weeks.
I see his point.

Maybe Pence can step into the top slot. But how would that affect the actual ballots that’ve already been printed?

What a disaster. illary’s going to win this thing.

We really ought to have nominated Rubio, Walker, Fiorina, Cruz, or Jindal.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:49 am

Mr. Trump is the only one that can win Mr. Supporter

all the pig can do is inherit

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:57 am

I am so feeling the warm glow of a sunny October day in Chicago; a Cubs win; and the imminent purging of an orange-skinned New York pansy.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:58 am

@Cruz Supporter:We really ought to have nominated Rubio, Walker, Fiorina, Cruz, or Jindal.

As though there wouldn’t be rage ginned up on them. Where have you been? How much outraged outrage was there for squeaky-clean Romney and his 47% comment?

Those candidates would show the same helplessness Romney and McCain did, and for the same reason: the media would define them for an electorate that has heard of none of them.

Trump is already pre-defined. This behavior from 11 years ago, when he was 2 years into a 14-year TV show, is not a surprise to anyone.

And the media people with their shocked faces approved of Bill Clinton when he said and did worse.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 8:59 am

If Donald Trump were black the Washington Post would be cyberbullied for exposing DJT’s norf norf.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:04 am

Naw. What happened here was three employees of the soap were sent out to coach Trump for a suggestive line to be delivered by the lovely lady holding on to DJT’s arm in the video.
She played the slutty vixen on the show.

In order to get Trump (not an actor) in the right frame of mind (hot to trot tycoon) for the one shot before a live audience, they had their baudy talking handlers prep him up.
Read all the way through to the last paragraph (on pg A-14) of the original article.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:17 am

oh my goodness

Martha Roby wants to let the pig do yummy partial birth abortion judges on all the wee lil wiggle giggles

this is against Jesus

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:17 am

btw You all suck.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:20 am

@ Gabriel Hanna, #42:

Where have you been? How much outraged outrage was there for squeaky-clean Romney and his 47% comment?

Plenty, of course. But let’s not pretend these situations are remotely the same. Romney was actually a decent man, who required heavy intervention from the media against him in order to lose by three points nationwide. Trump doesn’t require the same heavy-handed media treatment; as we’ve seen, all they have to do is hand him a microphone (which they would have to do anyway), refrain from pointing out how bad his opponent is (which they were going to do anyway), and keep repeating his words in and on their outlets (which they don’t even have to take out of context). He takes care of the rest himself.

You seem heavily invested in the idea that since any Republican candidate would be getting bad treatment from the media, we can’t say for certain that any of them would be doing better than Trump. The antecedent is obviously true. The consequent cannot be proved or disproved, but if we look at polls from the spring (where literally every Republican candidate still in the race was beating Hillary Clinton, EXCEPT FOR Trump), it seems far more likely to me that we would be doing better with any one of the other candidates.

I don’t know how Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio would be doing right now. But I knew months ago how Donald Trump would be doing right now. Anyone with any sense did.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:25 am

Don’t blame me I voted for that dirt bag cruz.
It would not surprise me if boosh, mittens and traitor ryan gave the tape to der leader team clinton.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:27 am

So, I’m field-testing campaign slogans for a possible scenario in which Donald Trump gets dropped off the GOP ticket and replaced with Hurricane Matthew. Which does everyone like more?

(A)

Hurricane Matthew 2016
He’ll blow you away.

(B)

Hurricane Matthew 2016
Not just another windbag.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:30 am

I think that all y’all mr. the donald fans got your p_____ies grabbed is what I think.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:31 am

Mr. Trump’s weathering every storm

He keeps his prow to the wind

just keeps smacking that pig

for freedom

for prosperity

for God and for Country

he humbles us all

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:31 am

@Demosthenes:but if we look at polls from the spring (where literally every Republican candidate still in the race was beating Hillary Clinton, EXCEPT FOR Trump), it seems far more likely to me that we would be doing better with any one of the other candidates.

Then why did none of those candidates receive the nomination?

See, every time I hear this “anyone would but Trump would be doing better”, no explanation is ever given for why Trump won the nomination.

There’s only a few plausible possibilities:

Republican voters preferred Trump to all the alternatives
Non-Republicans turned out to vote for Trump, swamping the “true” Republican vote

Both of these cannot be true, and either of them makes it very unlikely that any other candidate would now be doing better than Trump

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:34 am

@mg:Don’t blame me I voted for that dirt bag cruz.
It would not surprise me if boosh, mittens and traitor ryan gave the tape to der leader team clinton.

I also voted for Cruz, but I would be surprised if a Bush (other than the one in the video obviously) was involved in it.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:35 am

Commenting on the controversy, The Economist noted: “Who would have thought that Mr Bush, a presenter of NBC’s Today news show, could end up playing a more influential role in this election than his cousin Jeb, whom many Republicans once expected to win it?”

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:38 am

I’m surprised that they waited this long to start with the Trump clips. There are probably enough negative stories about him to do one a day until the election. Each and every one of which will be front-page news where Hillary’s negatives don’t rate page 35 in the personals section.

This was pointed out over and over and over again during the primary but noooo, we had to have a snitfit.

Like Patterico, I’m a Californian so I can vote for Mickey Mouse without affecting the outcome. I also think Trump is an obnoxious bully. That’s based on his public persona. He may be the sweetest, kindest guy in person, but he sure hasn’t demonstrated that to me.

Unlike Patterico, I would rather have him than Hillary (to be clear, I know Patterico doesn’t WANT Hillary, he just doesn’t see Trump as an improvement). I just never thought there was a chance in h*ll that he could survive the onslaught of negative adds that was coming. My biggest surprise has been that he’s been this close.

I think he’s toast. I hope I’m wrong because the thought of having socialist policies for the rest of my life makes me cringe (if you think we’ll be able to pry the country away from the Democrats after Hillary stacks the deck against us for 4 more years you’ve been smoking something that I want some of).

Just for the record, I voted for Cruz in the primary even though it was all over already.
Also, just for the record, I agree with Trump’s original stated goals on a lot of things. I just wasn’t sure he could be trusted and didn’t think he could be elected.

mark (8216a3) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:51 am

Gabriel Hanna,

Come on, man.
Trump has more baggage than a Delta flight to Hawaii. And he shoots of his mouth every damn day.

Of course the media is against every GOP nominee, but Trump gives them a smorgasboard of items to feast on.
Whereas Romney, McCain, Rubio, Jindal, Cruz, Fiorina, and Walker don’t have that baggage.
Besides, someone like Rubio is imminently charming.
The worst the media could come up with is that Marco’s wife got a bunch of speeding tickets.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:54 am

turns out Lil Marco even lied when he said he hated being a senator

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:56 am

I would like to say that Trump has grown up in the last 11 years since that recording.
AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:58 am

But I can’t.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:09 am

Mr. Happy is correct. What difference at this time does it make.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:10 am

Mr happyfeet,

Millions of Americans take a paycheck for a job they’re not thrilled with.
Don’t you remember Dolly Parton’s song, 9 to 5? (LOL)

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:12 am

@ Gabriel Hanna, #52:

Then why did none of those candidates receive the nomination?

Several reasons.

One, most of them didn’t take Trump seriously as a candidate. They didn’t fight as hard against him as they could have, because they didn’t want to offend his supporters…when Trump eventually flamed out, everyone wanted to be first in line to take his supporters. And when they did attack, they did it like henchmen do in bad martial-arts movies — one at a time. First Bush, then Rubio, then Cruz. Had they all piled on Trump together, who knows what would have happened?

Two, there were sixteen of them and one of him. The pro-Trump vote was never a majority, or anywhere close to it. Had the anti-Trump vote coalesced around a candidate, that candidate wins easily. But too many people stayed in the race too long, hoping they would be that candidate. Result — none of them were.

Three, and kind of related to two, Trump dominated the airwaves. He was always in the news for what he said or what he did. When other candidates got on the airwaves, half the time, they were only getting time to respond to what he said. So, many of the most qualified candidates never had a chance to develop their campaigns. Not that it’s Trump’s job to let them, of course, but let’s not pretend that they weren’t eminently more qualified.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but the reason I’ve never responded to your question before is because it’s a stupid question. Everyone knows at this point why Trump won the nomination. But the same factors that played in his favor before are no longer present. Hillary doesn’t want his support for the general; she doesn’t need to play to his supporters in order to win. He is no longer one of ten candidates on a debate stage, or eight, or even six — he’s one of two. And Hillary’s campaign is already developed; he poses no threat to her in media time.

As for your two “plausible possibilities,” one of them is neither plausible nor a possibility. Republican voters very plainly did not prefer Trump. He got more votes than anyone else, but everyone else combined got more votes than him…he received the lowest percentage of the primary vote of any GOP nominee since 1968, and that was before voters had a real say. Your second possibility is simply not all that plausible. I do think that a lot of Democrats and independents crossed over to vote for Trump. But if I’m right, where would those voters have gone in the general? Would they have gone to Hillary? I doubt it, because if so, they would have voted for her in the primary. Far more likely that they would have gone to Cruz or Rubio, or else stayed home.

By the way, since we’re talking about lack of explanations, you never have attempted to explain those polls from the spring. I presume that for Cruz and Rubio and Kasich to get better numbers than Hillary, but for Trump to get worse numbers than Hillary, there would have to be a percentage of people backing Trump who would have been willing to vote for another candidate as well…a far larger percentage than existed among Cruz or Rubio supporters willing to switch to Trump. Again, this would mean that Trump was the worst possible choice. But then, again, people with sense knew that.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:13 am

yes yes i love that song

Mr. Instapundit isn’t a fan though cause of remembers it as agitrop

but i still think stumble to the kitchen pour myself a cup of ambition is one of the best lyrics ever

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:14 am

My favorite hot mic is Obama leaning over telling the Russians they could grab his private part after the election. And they have.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:14 am

*he* remembers it as agitprop i mean

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:14 am

Female private part.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:15 am

oh my goodness carly fetalroehha caught on a hot mic demeaning women?

what’s wrong with her

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:25 am

I almost feel sorry for Ted Cruz. The poor guy is snakebit, I think. But this makes his endorsement pretty much a nullity — like sending a shipload of supplies to Hiroshima on August 5, 1945 — and no reason to resent him for it.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:27 am

happyfeet, what do you know that we don’t? Is Hillary secretly planning to appoint Justices that will reverse Roe v. Wade and Lawrence v. Texas? Come on, you can tell us.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:30 am

i just have a bad feeling

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:30 am

Teh Gloves are off. This had to be approved by the Clinton campaign and, given it’s Trump, there will be a steady drip of this sort of stuff. Deserving of a fully proportionate response at a minimum, a full exploration of the Clinton couple’s heinous path of personal destruction perpetrated on rape victims, unwitting consensual copulaters, and add Clinton Foundation pay for play, malfeasance, incompetence, Arsonist to teh World as Sec of State, ALL the baggage for maximum effect.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:30 am

For republicans, the theme of it’s just sex, what are you so obsessed about, personal life, doesn’t apply.

Richard Aubrey (472a6f) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:33 am

I see we have have a little Mormon bashing in this thread. Just the sort of nastiness I expect from Shorty’s desperate enablers, not to mention the candidate, himself. Birds of a feather. Trump’s comment doesn’t much bother me and it’s hardly surprising – New York values, no kidding. It’s this sort of gratuitous sliming of critics that gives me pause.

#10

I really liked your comment, Steve.

#22

Got me laughing out loud. Thanks happy!

#46

A remarkably common sentiment among my friends and acquaintances, many of whom are not speaking to each other. Even the Democrats.

ThOR (c9324e) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:34 am

@Gabriel Hanna:See, every time I hear this “anyone would but Trump would be doing better”, no explanation is ever given for why Trump won the nomination.

Numbers to back up Demosthenes:
From http://www.fairvote.org/2016_popular_vote_numbers_updated

Through May 3 (when Cruz dropped out) Trump had 40.8% of the vote and had won 11 states with > 45%of the vote (7 with > 50%)
Final results were Trump 45.6% with 20 states > 45% (16 > 50%)

I think it came down to ego. Too few of the candidates were willing to drop out and hand their support to the runner up. But then, they were all Politicians after all.

mark (8216a3) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:37 am

the pig is an endgame Mr. nk

that’s why they don’t care if she’s useless and diseased

with the irs so thoroughly corrupted

the fbi so corrupt and sleazy

the epa hellbent on raping all prosperity

the ivy league trash supreme court already a third whirl joke

the once-respectable failmerican military obsessed with trannies and climate change

corruption is deep in the failmerican government, deep and all up in it

while a perverted posse of propaganda sluts circle their slutty wagons

this election matters

if we let pass the torch from food stamp to pig

the best we can hope for is blood squalor and oppression

we have to stop the pig

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:38 am

@Demosthenes: So your position is that Trump got the nomination because the media did it for him.

If that actually happened, that the electorate is that easily led, we’re back to where we were: no evidence that any other Republican candidate would be doing better.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:40 am

I already linked earlier to the outrage being ginned up on Pence now, that he is being portrayed as more evil and dangerous then Trump.

That Trump has baggage does not mean that media wouldn’t have invented it. Romney’s dog carrier, high school haircut. Macaca. A wife’s vehicular homicide. What country has everyone been living in?

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:44 am

John Hinderaker:

“When this fiasco is over, I think we should go easy on those who thought Donald Trump was the GOP’s optimal nominee. A soft, Lincolnian peace, in other words. At a minimum, however, all Republicans should resolve never, ever again to nominate an amateur to run for president.”

ThOR (c9324e) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:46 am

And further, if Trump supporters were dancing to the media tune in the primaries, #NeverTrump is doing it now, with its uncritical and immediate acceptance and repetition of every negative story about Trump; some of them are even posting Hillary’s ads for her.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:47 am

Gabriel, I do suspect we would be having some version of the same game plan if any other Republican had been nominated.

Remember “binders full of women” and dogs on top of cars and bullying people in prep school.

It’s always that way.

What continues to amaze me is how Trump does their work for them.

We all knew that this was going to happen, that the process would descend into the sewer. And who better to be in the sewer than DJT?

I think the DNC was most afraid of Rubio, but the nomination process got rid of him for the DNC.

Let’s face facts: HRC is a terrible candidate. So the RNC and media had to find one worse.

And they did.

Simon Jester (485863) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:47 am

@ Gabriel Hanna, #75:

I answered your question, only to be met with the worst sort of reductionism. And you continue not to answer mine…not that you could.

You are not worth any more of my time on a college football Saturday. I will leave you and your fellow Trump-backers to be un-American on your own time.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:48 am

@John Hinderaker

I don’t have a problem with an amateur. But we shouldn’t pick an obnoxious amateur with more baggage than the Queen Mary. Especially when we know about it in advance.

mark (8216a3) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:50 am

@Simon Jester:So the RNC and media had to find one worse.

And they did.

Again, if the electorate is that far gone, this was all futile anyway. Romney is the closest thing I’ve seen to a saint run for office, far more moral than McCain or even Reagan, and competence wasn’t in question.

In that case it’s academic who was nominated, isn’t it?

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:50 am

amateur?

Mr. Trump’s a splendid victorious

above the clouds he flies

he absolves us of our sins and imbues us with determination and righteous purpose

he’s a splendid victorious and a plum lolly both

and together we’re gonna beat that pig

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:50 am

@Demnosthenes:By the way, since we’re talking about lack of explanations, you never have attempted to explain those polls from the spring.

There’s nothing to explain about them. The real poll was the nomination. Just like the real poll will be the election.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:51 am

@Demosthenes:I will leave you and your fellow Trump-backers to be un-American on your own time.

The smear here speaks for itself. Another display of simon-pure #NeverTrump principle I suppose.

Calling people un-American for a political disagreement is itself un-American.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:54 am

It is not a matter of principle, it is a matter of aesthetics. Trump is an ugly boil ~~on the face of the democratic process~~.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:17 am

Is it even possible for commenters to be banned from this site? For months, an apparently deranged creature calling itself “happyfeet” has been posting bizarre, incoherent, offensive material. Among other things, this entity delights in characterizing Hillary Clinton as “the pig” and “stinkypig.”

Why is he/she/it still allowed to post here, wasting everyone’s time and making the whole site look bad? Given the mess Trump has made of the GOP’s appeal to women, right-leaning sites need to take steps to distance themselves from crudely misogynistic attacks.

I would advise a heavier hand in comments moderation. It’s the only way to maintain an adult (non-Trumpian) level of discourse.

sauropod (271cbd) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:21 am

OT here for your entertainment please to see the contortions National Soros Radio propaganda slut Bill Chappell goes through so as to avoid telling you that over-hyped dudstorm Hurricane Matthew made landfall as a mere little cat one

Making landfall Saturday, Hurricane Matthew brought floods and strong winds to South Carolina’s Lowcountry region, pouring rain into an area that now faces a dangerous storm surge. As of 11 a.m. ET, the storm’s center was around 55 miles south-southwest of Myrtle Beach.

The storm made landfall southeast of McClellanville, about 35 miles northeast of Charleston. As it did so, Matthew also brought rains as far away as Virginia and Washington, D.C. — and the National Hurricane Center says that in the worst-hit areas, a “serious inland flooding event” is unfolding.

The good news is that Matthew is weakening: The storm was downgraded to a Category 1 hurricane Saturday, and its maximum winds, which had been measured at 140 mph days ago, are now at a still-dangerous 75 mph. The storm is projecting hurricane-force winds 25 miles away from its center.

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:22 am

lol Mr. sauropod you’re a funnie sauropod

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:23 am

All this tut-tutting, tsk-tskIng about obnoxious comments while we live in a world of obnoxious comments, criminal activities of the Democrat Party, politicization of the bureaucracy and at the upper echelon of federal law enforcement, a diminished America.

And Hillary Clinton gets a free pass?!?!

Some of us are being played and filleted.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:27 am

Fact is, sauropod, Mr. Feet can’t help himself. He seems to think it is very cool not only to leave out punctuation, capitalization, and clear thinking (and he used to be capable of all three; this is some weird pose of his), but to see how far he can push Patterico.

Example. What does Mr. Feet think is funny to call “twitter”? And he insists it is not vulgar.

But then, he does have a weird affection for Trump.

Anyway, it’s Patterico’s site. But sooner or later, Mr. Feet will push things too far.

The boy can’t help himself.

Simon Jester (485863) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:28 am

pull my finger

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:30 am

“apparently deranged” There’s good-deranged and there’s bad-deranged. hf is the good kind. Do not ban.

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:32 am

Now faux outrage from Sir Willard of Romney Marsh and boy wonder, Mike Lee. Couldn’t just let him just twist in the wind all by his lonesome, eh fellas? Silence is golden.

“Holy Moses! They’re Mormons!” – Mad Jack Duncan [Ray Walston] ‘Paint Your Wagon’ – 1969

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:38 am

Colonel, I agree completely. The press and social media (and remember that Clinton was actually paying folks to post on Twitter and Facebook in her defense) will not treat the situation fairly.

Like Clinton laughing about a case she had defending a child rapist (I especially like the fake accent she assumes in the audio).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tor00iWUhDQ

Or attacking and demeaning women who did in fact have affairs with her vulgar husband.

And that isn’t even getting to her policy screw ups.

No, we would rather talk about bad names he has used.

It’s a sad world, Colonel, and I don’t know what we can do about it.

Simon Jester (eb75fd) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:42 am

sauropod, happyfeet is neither deranged nor offensive. Get off the high horse. Sometimes he says stupid things, sometime observant things, sometime nonsense and sometime just funny. He’s not hurting anybody so go bully a-holes on Huffpo and leave our feets to be happy alone. Besides, Mr. Patterico is his own man and will ban who he choses he needs neither your input or encouragement.

You know if you ban everybody you end up a lonely deranged leftist sitting in a room talking to yourself.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:44 am

Nancy O’Dell divorced Dr. Richard O’Dell in 2004.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:48 am

thank you here is a melancholy

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:49 am

Available. In other words.

Did you investigate at all before jumping to the Hillary side conclusion?

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:51 am

Bet you all still think Brian Lockte vandalized a gas station in Brazil is why the plain clothes cops lifted his wallet, took all his money before he could get on a plane.

Because Al Roker said so!

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:54 am

@49.So, I’m field-testing campaign slogans for a possible scenario in which Donald Trump gets dropped off the GOP ticket and replaced with Hurricane Matthew. Which does everyone like more?

[C]

CNN BANNER: TRUMP TO WSJ: ZERO CHANCE I’LL QUIT.

“It’s smoke, and it’s flames now … and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring-mast. Oh, the humanity…” – Herb Morrison, WLS Radio, Hindenburg disaster, Lakehurst, NJ – 1937

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:56 am

you nailed it Mr. tiger and I’m sad to have to say that it looks like pervy mitt romney didn’t get his ducks in a row before joining in the mindless pile-on

he took straight to douchebag jack dorsey’s twatter to mewl thusly:

Hitting on married women? Condoning assault? Such vile degradations demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America’s face to the world.

he’s such an excitable little man, our mitt

excitable and more than a tad overwrought

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 11:56 am

Women More Likely To Cheat Than Men, According To Science

oh my goodness this is like peeling an onion of degradation

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:02 pm

Anything that keeps a casino operator and a Slovenian “model” out of the White is the most wonderful thing in the the whirl next only to pistachio ice cream with sriracha sauce.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:03 pm

colour me intrigued

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:04 pm

@90– And Hillary Clinton gets a free pass?!?!

The emotional trumps the rational.

If JR’s big mouth hadn’t bigfooted himself the news cycle this weekend would have been all on her- as it should be.

“What I need is something so scary it’ll clear three hundred square miles of every living Christian soul.” – “Close Encounters Of The Third Kind” – 1977

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:05 pm

the ~~the~~ whirl 😉

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:06 pm

Ayotte to write in Pence for president

maybe Mr. Pajamas is onto something with his moral narcissism book

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:07 pm

pervy mitt romney

Indeed. Willard was following Annie through airports the very day the rest of mankind was following Apollo 8 circling the moon.

“I talk to the trees….” – Sylvester Newel [Clint Eastwood] ‘Paint Your Wagon,’ 1969

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:17 pm

Republicans with integrity.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:17 pm

Ayotte is accompanied by Senators Lee, Sasse, Fischer, Thune, Crapo, Murkowski, Young, Gardner, Kirk, Flake, Graham and Capito (so far). Others are waiting for the next lifeboat to start loading.

Rick Ballard (b9de6e) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:23 pm

papertiger 97, 99:

Nancy O’Dell was divorced in 2004 but married another man on June 29, 2005. Trump’s Days of Our Lives cameo was in October 2005 and was satirized on SNL the same week, 4 months after she remarried. That’s why Trump said she was a married woman. Newly married, in fact.

In other words, she was not available and you are a shill for not researching this better and defending Trump.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:27 pm

This was a BUILD UP to get Donald Trump into character to be hit on by Days of Our Lives actress Arianne Zucker, whose character is the shady lady, Nicole Walker.

This is a fiction. Play acting packaged as real.

Its a complete beat up. Defamation. Fraud.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:28 pm

us senators are nasty cowardly miserable creatures

integrity flees from such as these and takes refuge in the hearts of real americans like you and me

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:28 pm

Nancy gets around huh

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:28 pm

DRJ, I didn’t hear any dates given for when this furniture store flirtation was supposed to have occurred.

But I do know that Trump beat Nancy to the alter by 5 months. Married to Melania Jan 22nd 2005.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:34 pm

marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:34 pm

one man and one woman i mean

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:35 pm

@23- ” I love Mike Lee.”

Now that’s creepy, Patterico. 😉

“Actresses, people that you write about just call to see if they can go out with him and things.”- “John Miller”

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:38 pm

Story too good to check and egos to big to allow it.

That’s a toxic mix.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:40 pm

pretend you’re a woman and you’re deeply in love with your husband cause of your last husband was unsatisfying in some way

and there’s some handsome rich guy guy what’s in and around your workplace what might kiss all up on you and grab you in that place what you vowed only to ever ever let your first husband and your second husband do intimate touchings on

how would you feel??

be honest

if you feel triggered we have play-doh and puppies

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:40 pm

guy guy guy

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:41 pm

Trump pleaded guilty and apologized, papertiger and happyfeet. But even a mirror won’t show you what you don’t want to see.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:42 pm

Method acting.

You know they only do one take on those soaps.

An actors got to be in the moment, because ready or not, it’s going in the can.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:43 pm

@112- In other words, she was not available…

Oh, please. With all due respect, DRJ, whether she was ‘available’ or not was (and is) really up to her.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:44 pm

yes yes he said he was sorry

me i forgive him

go in peace serve the lord Mr. Trump

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:45 pm

Please, guys, it’s Trump I want to see squirming on the hook, not you. I meant it when I said that I esteem any one of you more than all the politicians put together.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:45 pm

plenty of time for squirming after we beat that pig Mr. nk

once we de-pig we can have us a nice long luxurious squirm

plus tasty ice creams

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:48 pm

Your beef is with papertiger, DCSCA, not me. That was papertiger’s word for O’Dell. He also said Trump was recently married but, at this point, everyone knows Trump is always available.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:48 pm

Mike Lee’s got great skin i wonder if he endorses any particular product

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:51 pm

he really does look fresh and radiant

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:52 pm

By the way, this is funny to me, not offensive.

It’s classic Trump. Why be offended when Trump acts like Trump? It’s like getting offended that Hillary and Trump lie. You can only get offended so many times when people do the same things over and over and over.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:53 pm

If it is possible (probably not), could Pence win if Trump stepped aside? Of course, Trump’s egp would never let that happen so this is moot but it’s interesting.

I think Pence has a chance, and I don’t think Trump has any chance to win at this point.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:58 pm

Kind of like Obama’s teleprompter, but with feeling and conviction.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 12:58 pm

Trump says he will not drop out of the race, and he won’t let his supporters down. It’s certainly possible for him to let his supporters down without dropping out of the race. Now I’m thinking he can drop out of the race without letting his supporters down, too.

Chuck Bartowski (211c17) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:00 pm

you just seem to be a lot more

i dunno

engaged by classic trump than you ever seem to be by classic pig

the devil’s greatest trick was convincing the world he didn’t exist you know

but the pig is real

for now she wallows quietly in her mud and slop

biding her time

napping

plotting

napping some more

then we vote

and should she pig victorious

she’ll awaken and begin to root furiously, snuffle obscenely

to rut and eat and rut and eat

ravenous are her appetites

what rough beast is this you’ll be wondering

but then it’ll be too late

i don’t want that for you

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:02 pm

This is so disappointing. It was a real chance to move toward Reagan-style conservatism and the GOP threw it away because they love cronyism more than conservatism. They are greedy and could care less about what happens to everyday working Americans like us, and supporting Trump was their way of showing the contempt they feel toward us.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:03 pm

Trump pled guilty to using intemperate language, that’s all.

Raise your hand if you’re innocent of that crime, you bunch of brick throwers.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:04 pm

Aw fer ….

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:07 pm

Men should ask themselves if what’s on that tape is typical of jocular, towel snapping ‘locker room banter’ or just a braggart on a power trip showboating for an immature audience who’s egging him on.

Men know the difference.

“Yes! The Donald has scored!” — Billy ‘family values’ Bush on the tape

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:09 pm

I rarely disagree with nk but there are many, many, many politicians thay I admire more than some of the commenters here.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:10 pm

I’ve used far worse language in my life than Trump did there. But I never caused the death of four Americans then lied about it to their families and the American people. Actions speak louder than words unless you are a leftist. Then intentions are what count, not results.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:11 pm

137.This is so disappointing. It was a real chance to move toward Reagan-style conservatism

Ideology is out. Pragmatism is in.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:11 pm

Trump wants to be President Braggart Showboat, DCSCA.

He came close but no cigar, as the Clintons undoubtedly say in private.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:14 pm

Only a Trump supporter would defend him by saying they say things that are far worse. This is like a SNL script.

DRJ (15874d) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:15 pm

That time Sean Hannity told some of us they we “own” Hilary’s win if we didn’t board the Trump train.
Question: Does Sean Hnnity “own” THIS? Sauce meets goose. Sad. Sad. For us all.

Jmh (914d61) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:16 pm

Okay, it appears Feet has actual fans on this site. I have not personally witnessed Feet saying anything “observant,” but … whatever.

Meanwhile, anyone who points out that Feet’s comments are misogynistic gibberish is labeled a “HuffPo liberal.”

And we wonder why the GOP is losing the college-educated ….

sauropod (271cbd) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:16 pm

“Our friends in the press and in culture say we should judge Donald Trump unacceptable by his words. They don’t like what he’s said about the border, about Rosie O’Donnell, about Kahn, about Islamic Terror etc etc etc. By these words in their eyes Donald Trump is unacceptable as president of the united states

These same people however do not want us to Judge Hillary Clinton / Barack Obama by their deeds. From paying ransoms that finance terror to Iran for hostages (It’s not really ransom), for exposing classified data to the russians and lying directly about it repeatedly, Hillary Clinton actually left people to die in Benghazi, actually blamed a video for it, actually imprisoned the person who made said video.

Clinton’s actual policies turned victory in Iraq into defeat, Syria into a mess, created ISIS, destabilized Libya, enabled Russia in the Ukraine and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

And that’s not even going into using the Clinton foundation for payola or protecting Bill Clinton from the consequences of his actions when it comes to sexually abusing women.”

— Peter Ingemi, Datech Guy

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:18 pm

@129- Beef? Brings to mind my memory of her.

I’ve met O’Dell. She was an emcee at one of our business functions we held at the Beverly Hills Hilton back in 2000. Easy to see why the Donald was overheated about her back in the day when she was all dolled up. But honestly, my most vivid recollection is how she sat alone and ate the free meal– like a frigging sparrow.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:19 pm

But some people are A-OK with all that. I call ’em the “Sh*t-for-brains” crowd.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:20 pm

Yes yes Mr. pod it’s true I like Mr. Trump.

He likes them Big Flavors. I like them Big Flavors too!

So, we have that in common.

It’s a foundation we can build on cause of we both wanna work together to help make America great again.

But me I also hate that pig – probably more than Mr. Trump does.

But still, for now, we’re allies. You want you can be allies too!

Do you like them Big Flavors?

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:25 pm

oh that’s where whitney went glub glub glub

me and NG went there once for a convention and sneaked down to Trader Vic’s, but nobody came to our table and we bailed

we had our convention badges on and I think the staff was kinda not really feeling it, which I understand

still

I’d love to go back and do it right some day

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:30 pm

@144– ROFLMAO Question is, DRJ, did Bubba break the embargo back then and use a Cuban?

So it’s four years of ‘Dallas’ or four years of ‘Maude.’

Would Americans prefer the entertainment of JR haggling with Principal, Gray and Tilton jiggling into their living rooms rather than a pantsuited Bea Arthur lecturing us during the 4th quarter of Monday Night Football to take out the trash?

Looks like the least objectionable program this cycle may just be ‘Maude.’

For Americans don’t want to be governed. The wish to be entertained.

“A woman is only a woman but a good cigar’s a smoke.” – WC Fields

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:31 pm

i read they’re doing a remake of dynasty i think it was on Drudge

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:32 pm

Not braggart or showboat.
Rather a man with understanding of his own limitations.

He wasn’t trying to impress those guys on the bus, but rather had called on them to help get his preparation for the role he was scheduled to play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_acting

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:34 pm

I know what and whom you mean, DRJ, but I feel like the election is already over and my feeling of relief is accompanied by (possibly extravagant) generosity. 😉

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:34 pm

Kind of like Grant and Lee, like Hinderaker said. 😉

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:36 pm

The role was Trump offering the resident bad girl on the soap opera a position with the company, she coming on to him, and he being repulsed by her crudity.

In method acting you think back to a time in your life when that situation or something similar happened then remember it as vividly as possible until it registers an emotional response, then act the scene while carrying the emotion.

For DJT he was repulsed by O’Dell marring her natural beauty with plastic surgery, and used that in his acting.

papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:49 pm

he’s nothing if not a perfectionist Mr. tiger

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:50 pm

team rino is staging a coup against Trump supporters.
they really are persistent about losing the senate and house.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:52 pm

what’s kinda funny is if he’d use the c word it would be over for him

finito

-30-

and all the rest

fortunately good taste prevailed

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 1:52 pm

@155 He wasn’t trying to impress those guys on the bus…

Except he was.

“Let me… entertain you.” — Gypsy Rose Lee [Natalie Wood] “Gypsy” – 1962

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:00 pm

this billy bush loser comes across like a fawning toady

does he add value?

he’s not really on my radar

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:03 pm

@Simon Jester:So the RNC and media had to find one worse.

And they did.

Again, if the electorate is that far gone, this was all futile anyway. Romney is the closest thing I’ve seen to a saint run for office, far more moral than McCain or even Reagan, and competence wasn’t in question.

In that case it’s academic who was nominated, isn’t it?

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 10:50 am

No, it wasn’t academic who was nominated. Hillary! is the most hated and despised politician since Nixon. In fact, she makes Nixon look like a paragon of virtue by comparison, and by comparison Nixon was a certainly a far more competent executive than Hillary!. By comparison any manager at a Taco Bell within a 50 mile radius of my house is a far more competent manager than Hillary! In short, she is eminently beatable.

By anybody except Trump. He’s the one candidate in the race capable of becoming more hated and despised than Hillary!, and he’s proving it. In case you Trumptards haven’t figured it out, Clinton and her camp (naturally that includes the LHMFM) wants him to bring up Billy Jeff. Based upon Trump’s antics after his last debate, he will take the bait. What kind of weirdo gets up in the middle of the night to generate a twitterstorm about his 20 year old dealngs with some Miss Universe? The petty, thin-skinned, megalomaniacal DJT, that weirdo. So should DJT act according his nature and he lets Hillary! get under his skin and he rises and takes the bait, expect another shoe to drop almost immediately. Also, the forecast is for another 20 October surprises, with few kiloton strength surprises to drop during the first week of November.

Any moderately capable candidate who could maintain a modicum of discipline could have kept the focus on Hillary!’s horrific record of disastrous failure and her four decades long war on women, primarily as a rape enabler. She didn’t have a record of disastrous failure as a Senator simply because she was just one of one hundred people who aren’t actually in charge of anything and hence can’t screw things up. There she was simply a towering mediocrity who sponsored no legislation of note and her only accomplishment was to rake in the campaign contributions and donations to her “family foundation” from wealthy New York state contributors such as Corning Inc., buying the access she was selling.

And of course Donald J. Trump himself. Who is most definitely NOT that moderately capable candidate. But you Trumptards had to have an outsider. Which means while we know the worst things they could have said about Cruz or Rubio or even Kasich because the Dems have already thrown all the feces they could dig up on them in the past, you weren’t aware of the rich vein of oppo gold they could mine and use against der Donald. Well, you’re going to find out you’re just not as smart as you thought you were. And it won’t be a steady drip-drip. Ever see old films of battlewagons and cruisers conducting naval artillery barrages prior to the Marines storming the beaches of Tarawa, Saipan, Iwo Jima, or Okinawa? Yeah, like that but for the next 30 days.

Oh, and you had to have someone who isn’t PC. Well, your getting your “not PC” by the truckload now. How are you enjoying it? And to be fair, I’m sick of PC too, as are most Americans. Too bad Trump and his Trumptards had to confuse being loud, rude, obnoxious, vulgar, and in general being an execrable individual with not being PC.

You Trumptards are seriously deluded.

Which is worse: DJT locker room talk, or HRC telling her Secret Service agents to f&ck off?

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:48 am

I hate to break to break it to you, Trumptards, but that wasn’t a locker room. Pro tip: If there are microphones and cameras present, you’re not in a locker room..

You’re also weapons grade obtuse if you can convince yourselves that it’s “academic” since no nominee could be doing b etter against Clinton than Trump. Frankly, considering how much of the heavy lifting he’s doing for the Clinton campaign it looks like he’s trying to lose. If he melts down on Sunday, as I suspect he might, or obediently walks right into to trap the Clinton campaign has set for him, as I expect he will, and still refuse to step aside then the verdict will be in. Donald Trump, lifelong NYC liberal Democrat, who called his friend and golfing buddy Billy Jeff Clinton to discuss his political ambitions shortly before entering the Republican primary race intended to throw this election all along.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:23 pm

onhnoes

Meghan’s disgrace to the uniform coward daddy – he’s just now decided he’d just as soon do the pig all up in it

oh my goodness this is big

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:24 pm

Pence has notified Trump he is taking a couple days off.

Must be the slow season.

Rick Ballard (b9de6e) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:27 pm

Most troubling about this episode among other episodes is our devolving media culture’s now full blown obsession to follow simple shiny objects. There’s a lot of news relevant to the election breaking about Maudie–as well as life threatening hurricanes and such… genuine hard news.

This is real life ‘Network’ washing over us. (Pop some corn and revisit the film, Patterico.) And it’s not only sickening. It’s frightening.

Think about it. With all the noise going on, you have an old tape of Trump dishing dirt to ‘Access Hollywood’ host Billy ‘family values’ Bush, who’s clearly egging him on, about competitor ‘Entertainment Tonight’ host Nancy O’Dell. It’s pure entertainment crap. Showbiz sizzle. It descends into braggart, bull-banter puffery and ends up years later a tipping point in a national election for President of the United States. This is, indeed, ‘madness.’

“You’re television incarnate, Diana: Indifferent to suffering; insensitive to joy. All of life is reduced to the common rubble of banality. War, murder, death are all the same to you as bottles of beer. And the daily business of life is a corrupt comedy. You even shatter the sensations of time and space into split seconds and instant replays. You’re madness, Diana. Virulent madness. And everything you touch dies with you.” – Max Schumacher [William Holden] ‘Network’, 1976

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:36 pm

family values icon arnold schwarzenegger took a break from bonking the illegal immigrant domestic help to register his disapproval as well

republicans lol

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:37 pm

#DumpTrump

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:37 pm

I have always said that Pence resigning from the ticket would be the end for Trump if it was going to happen. Next up would be Ryan calling on Trump to step down.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:38 pm

OMG, just look at this thread.

1. DSCA finally going back to his “I am famous” act (Beverly Hilton). This is like the fleet of cars he owned, or the rocks he ducked, or the Jews he knew in Iran, or his moneymaking in Dubai and Indonesia. The silly movie quotes just add to it.

2. HF doing his usual nutjob fakery. Again, remember that Patterico found ample posts from Mr. Feet that were well written, thoughtful, and not at all vulgar or snotty toward people. He chooses to do this, and he is laughing at you all. The fact he is open about not voting says everything. This misogyny business of his has been going on a long, long time. I honestly feel that if he can call Romney a “perve,” I should be able to call him a lying and dishonest jackass in every single post. Free expression, right? But he wants the right to call people whatever he wants, and then gets all hurt or mad when someone does the same to him. If folks like him, cool. But remember how it looks from the other perspective. His act helps the DNC, and you know it.

3. Everybody uses vulgar language. To be sure, humans say all kinds of bad things from time to time. But Trump is supposed to be smart. And gentlemen? Ask your wives and girlfriends how they feel about that language? You know the answer. You don’t have people following you around with cameras, so you can talk whatever smack you want Fair enough.. But super smart Trump has been followed around by cameras for decades.

Where this is going to go is a completely stupid argument about who is the most disgusting: sex stories of the Clintons, or sex stories with Trump. It makes “Idiocracy” look like “Advise and Consent.”

And Trump chooses to let it happen. I am not hopeful about his antics tomorrow night.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:39 pm

the thing to remember though is that Mike Pence is far more viciously misogynist than Mr. Trump’s ever been at his naughtiest

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:40 pm

But not as much as you, lying dishonest hack.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:43 pm

oh my goodness for once can’t you just enjoy the moment

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:44 pm

Mr. Feet, we have a long, long list of people you get to be vulgar about.

Turn about is fair play.

Especially because they all vote.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:44 pm

Of course, you could write normally, and not be a lying dishonest jackass who doesn’t bother to vote, who makes up shit all the time, and has driven off most of his friends.

But like Trump, you have to be you.

Except its not you who suffers.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:45 pm

I agree with what Dana said before,
Yes, for the zillionth and one time we are reminded how bad of a candidate Trump is,
that said,
Clinton is still worse,
and if Trump didn’t give them so much fun work with,
they would make stuff up.

The country is in a mess, Trump is an illustration,
nothing more.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:49 pm

Simon, I expect Trump to swing for the fences tomorrow. If he calls Clinton a cu*t on air, it won’t surprise me. I truly hope that he melts down because he needs to go, and his “over my dead body” attitude isn’t particularly wise given the stakes.

That being said, I doubt that Pence is a good replacement (or even wants to be). He has no base of support, has shown poor judgement signing on with Trump, and losing would end his chances in the future.

No. if Trump does, it’s Romney. He’s the only one without a future to mortgage, he’s been right on EVERYTHING for the last several years, including Trump, he has 0-day name recognition and he knows how to run a Presidential campaign. Probably Pence stays as VP, although I’d rather have Condi or Carly.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:50 pm

turnabout is when a bunch of lifeydoodle and other similar virtue-signalling trash decide en masse to wholeheartedly do the pig all up in it

i tried really hard to stop it

but ask yourself Mr. Jester

did you

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:50 pm

*If Trump GOES…

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:51 pm

MD,

And Hillary is SO BAD that sticking with mister crazy albatross man isn’t a good idea.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:52 pm

romney is an over-excited poodle, piddling on the rug

he’s about as presidential as billy bush, cousin of jeb, duchess of the falkland isles

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:53 pm

@171., 1.

ROFLMAOPIP. Am I?

“You may very well think that. I could not possibly comment.” – Francis Urquhart [Ian Richardson] “House Of Cards” BBC TV, 1990

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:54 pm

I would be very surprised if Romney would win the election. I think he is old news and hasn’t improved since the last time.
I don’t see Pence as having made a mistake in signing on with Trump,
someone had to do it, better a competent person than another Trump.

But I have no idea what will happen.

People want someone new with common sense who cares about what the average person cares about,
Law abiding being rewarded,
not lawlessness by the poor mob
or the powerful in DC,
not lying to the country, saying we are too dumb to understand,
a strong military to stand up to bullies,
control over our front and back doors.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:09 pm

If Clint Eastwood was 10 years younger…

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:11 pm

electing Mr. Trump is how you shake the clintonpig / propaganda slut nexus to their core

doing the pig all up in it?

it’s an ointment it’s a salve it’s a sweet sweet sensation

from Paul Ryan to George Soros them ruling class twats be lovin life

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:12 pm

Scott Eastwood is Clint with bonus manscaping

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:13 pm

Col. West is my pick if Trump gets flushed.
Mittens has no chance and ryan has less than that.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:24 pm

Given that all of Pence’s speaking engagements have been removed from the Trump-Pence website and that Pence is taking some time off, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the one who steps down. Trump sure won’t. There are videos of him leaving Trump Tower today, happily wading into the cheering crowds as he exclaims what great support he is receiving.

So if Pence steps down, then what?

Dana (d17a61) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:31 pm

To be sure, humans say all kinds of bad things from time to time.

Indeed: “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.” – President Ronald Reagan on hot mike, August, 1984. He should have stepped down from the presidency after joking about global thermonuclear war but then, it wasn’t about sex. Or was it.

Where this is going to go is a completely stupid argument about who is the most disgusting: sex stories of the Clintons, or sex stories with Trump. It makes “Idiocracy” look like “Advise and Consent.”

Allen Drury’s ‘Advise and Consent’ won the Pulitzer Prize for fiction in 1959. But this is more than make-believe. It’s unbelievable.

“… the jester sang for the king and queen; in a coat he borrowed from James Dean….” – Don McLean, ‘American Pie’, 1971

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:35 pm

It was sad to watch representative democracy in Venezuela fade until it suddenly crashed following the same policy prescriptions Obama, the democrats and a number of cowardly republicans have been forcing on US. Trump would not be the first crude and lascivious leader elected to the presidency but Hillary would be the first to win by default after benefiting from the total corruption of our government. How far we’ve fallen from the days of Nixon spending the weekend at Bebe Rebozo’s house in the Florida Keys and Carter “lusting in his heart.”

crazy (d3b449) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:40 pm

maybe pence secretly wants to let the pig do partial birth judges all up in it

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:41 pm

@189– Interesting perspective.

It certainly would help the desperate who keep Tedtoo’s future on life-support. But in all likelihood, Pence is pausing to see how the debate goes and the level, if any, of contrition.

“The pause that refreshes.” – ‘Coca-Cola’ advertising slogan, 1929

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:43 pm

partial birth abortion

that’s where you pith the lil wiggle giggle’s head like a frog

and ease it on out the p***y

then you can barter the parts for a lamborghini

if it holla make it pay

fiddy dolla every day

my mama told me to pick the very best one but i was naughty and decided to dothepigallupinit

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:47 pm

The clinton/boosh campaign is sic.

mg (31009b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:54 pm

He’s negotiating the campaign BK. Martinez just followed Sandoval (and many other governors) in calling for him to leave. It’s not going to stop until he’s gone.

He’s just angling to keep as much sucker cash as possible.

Rick Ballard (b9de6e) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:54 pm

“If there are microphones and cameras present, you’re not in a locker room.” That’s not even true! Go to youtube, type in ‘locker room interviews’ and see all the microphones and cameras that can fit in more locker rooms than you have time for.

My question stands: is joking frat talk, on the set of a stupid show, worse than hatefully cursing out your own dedicated security men? Even young Chelsea picked up the habit of calling them pigs!

Really hard to believe that THIS stupid little teapot-tempest is the one that makes half the party run for the hills!

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:56 pm

no doubt Mr. Ballard he’s looking at all the angles

and you can tell sleazer Mike Pence is hoping for a big fat yummy promotion out the deal

but Mr. Trump has nothing to lose by hangin tough like a new kid

nothing at all to lose

and i hope he does

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 3:58 pm

39.Hugh Hewitt is calling for Trump to drop out of the race, as he fears there’s even more oppo research that will drop during the forthcoming weeks.

Typical Hewitt. Fair-weather fan.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:03 pm

#199 DCSCA, Hugh Hewitt’s calling for Trump to step down so we have a chance to defeat illary. As it stands, Trump’s not going to win.
It has nothing to do with the weather or with being a “fan.”
The American electorate hungers for someone other than illary whom they can vote for, and Hugh knows that Trump’s not that guy. And his chat with Bush about p*ssy (rim shot) is only going to make things worse.
Wait until the transcripts of his chats with Howard Stern are released. We’ll be lucky to win Texas after that.
Even Texans have … (LOL) nevermind.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:16 pm

The really annoying part of this is, WE TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

What did you say? Again and again you said it was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVjs4aobqs

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:19 pm

trump is strong

no one can tell us he’s wrong

searching our hearts for so long

all of us knowing

the pig is a fatal deal

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:20 pm

The following people could run and possibly win:

Rubio, Kasich, Ryan, or Romney. Probably not Cruz as the Trumpists would probably vote for Hillary out of spite, and the GOP candidate would have to pick up a lot of independents and upset Democrats, which Cruz cannot do.

But anyone who runs, and loses, is out of the game in the future. Nobody really knows anything about Pence and there isn’t time. Also, Rubio is on the FL Senatorial ballot which could cause a problem. Only Romney has no “later” to risk.

I know that some of the Trumpists think Romney is some kind of idiot, but considering the source that’s high praise indeed. Kinda like the way Carter supporters laughed at Reaganomics.

If they go with Pence, they’ve agreed to lose and they just want to make it clear that Trump is disavowed. I think they’ll go with someone else.

Ryan is the key.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:30 pm

happyfeet, nothing’s really changed. Nominating Trump was basically the only way a candidate as weak as Hillary had a chance. We all knew a sleaze like him was going to have a scandalous October. Now that he’s admitted to sexual assaulting people, expect a drip drip drip of victims all the way to November.

Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:36 pm

settle down

Mr. Trump gonna spank that pig

secure the borders

cut the regulations

create growth and opportunity

and make america great again

and he won’t be beholden even a little to meghan’s coward daddy or various and sundry other no-account sleazer ruling class trash-biscuits

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:36 pm

Mental turds arrive
the election’s excrement
signed by happy feet

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:40 pm

expect a drip drip drip of victims all the way to November.

By the time we get there, even Cosby will be accusing him.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:41 pm

I don’t know,
The people do not want Clinton,
and they don’t want the status quo
I would not be enthusiastic about Romney or Ryan
I think they would be seen as status quo or even stepping backwards,
Romney still can’t campaign against nationalized RomneyCare
And Ryan has sold us out on the budget twice now

Rubio might get traction in spite of gang of 8 if alternative is Clinton,
I think Pence might do fine

Idk

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:47 pm

Of course I’m not a fan of Romney or Ryan, though I’d find voting for them a no brainer. Pence would be good. I guess for some reason Cruz is just right out, even though he was the runner up in the primary. Why is that?

Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/8/2016 @ 4:58 pm

Because the gope successfully undermined him already.

I think Lee would have a better chance

But from what you read elsewhere, the mechanics of the election are a problem for anything to be an alternative

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:10 pm

don’t be so kooky

the nominee is Mr. Trump

anointed by God

sacred and holy, this charge he’s been given

now let’s go smack that pig!

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:10 pm

It’s amazing, but the more utterly intolerable Hillary! becomes to me at an atomic level, the less annoying happyfeet becomes.

Still doesn’t mean I intend to let any of you dildos force me to vote at gunpoint.

Eric in Hollywood (76d6cf) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:14 pm

*I* read elsewhere

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:16 pm

@200 Wait until the transcripts of his chats with Howard Stern are released

They’re out already and on air.

CNN put it in the hands of a new hire who has been cutting the audio up and presenting clips all afternoon.
Best banner yet: “TRUMP TO STERN: IT’S OKAY TO CALL IVANKA A NICE PIECE OF A**.”
Except he didn’t actually say that in the audio- Stern did and JR gave it a verbal nod.

But still…

“It’s smoke, and it’s flames now … and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring-mast. Oh, the humanity…” – Herb Morrison, WLS Radio, Hindenburg disaster – 1937

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:26 pm

It’s over. Come on up, Rosie, and sing an aria. Candy, how about you?

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:32 pm

I guess for some reason Cruz is just right out, even though he was the runner up in the primary. Why is that?

“Probably not Cruz as the Trumpists would probably vote for Hillary out of spite, and the GOP candidate would have to pick up a lot of independents and upset Democrats, which Cruz cannot do.”

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:33 pm

the nominee is Mr. Trump
anointed by God
now let’s go smack that pig!

Try to stay up with the plot

Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:35 pm

Dump Trump is completely ridiculous at this point. That would LITERALLY throw the election!

The ballots are already printed up in most states. Most states have laws binding electors. You think the Democrats aren’t going to sue in all 50 states to keep Trump’s replacement off the ballot? And the laws binding electors, how is there time to get them changed? Is the RNC supposed to sue their own nominee and 50 state governments between now and election day?

People are getting delusional.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:43 pm

if fagpublicans start ditching noms

who would’ve ever stuck?

Meghan’s loathsome coward daddy?

georgie drunk-ass butcher bush?

pervy badtouch willard romney?

or a harvardtrash canuck?

nonono we must not start this

here we must draw a red line

cause of piggy is upon us

and such schemes we must decline

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:44 pm

Maybe so, Gabriel, but maybe some think delusions are our best shot at this stage.

I bet there are a lot of lawyers looking into election law right now.

MD in Philly (f9371b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:51 pm

Hoagie, HF is both deranged and offensive. He has been so for a very long time. That is why Patterico had to add some of HF’s non-words to the moderation filter. Because HF is, indeed, offensive. And as for you telling others to get off their high horses while you’re on your own big hobby horse, I thumb my nose at you.

John Hitchcock (7fcee0) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:53 pm

@MD:I bet there are a lot of lawyers looking into election law right now.

For all the good that will do! That’s like looking into the murder laws to see if we can just shoot Trump. Would have the same chance of success.

Party of Stupid. Dancing to the tune called by media Democrats.

What would the Democrats do? Here there is no need to speculate: we saw what they did in the 1990s. They circled the wagons and defended their man to the hilt, using whatever smears and lies were helpful, even though he was credibly accused of rape and multiple instances of sexual harassment. Indeed, that is what the Democrats are doing now with Hillary Clinton, as revelations much more material to her performance in office than the Trump video have come out over the past year or two.

Republicans cut and run every time. This is why we got Trump in the first place, because Republicans accept the media premises and disavow, deny, run for cover, every time they’re told to.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:55 pm

i get knocked down but i get up again you never gonna keep me down

i drink the whiskey drink and also the vodka drink and cider and other ones

hold me

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 5:56 pm

Republicans, snatching (if I may) defeat from the jaws of victory since 1992.

Republicans in general and conservative in particular will always be disloyal at the drop of a hat. For them, the good must always be disposed of in pursuit of the perfect.

One thing for sure has been established, masculinity is the enemy in America, and will not be tolerated.

A few points for you emasculated cucks abandoning the republicans choice for president; if you condemn Trump for this typical (and true) private male exchange about female groupies, remember, the good Lord is privy to every private THOUGHT you have ever had, and will judge you the way you judge others.

Trump has issued a rare apology, if that doesn’t satisfy you then please, spare us any future demands for an apology for anything, they are apparently meaningless.

If the Republican party is successful in dumping and replacing trump, me and about 10 million other republicans will not ever bother voting republican again, meaning not only will you be getting president Hillary, you will lose massive numbers in congress, guaranteed. You can sit on your puritanical principles and and spin, no one can live up to them, and Alinsky will play you like a top forever. Go ahead, live by the sword, see what happens…

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:02 pm

10 million and one my friend

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:04 pm

A few points for you emasculated cucks

People using that word non-ironically risk a ban. It’s a personal prejudice. I just don’t like it.

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:07 pm

Even if Trump were to drop dead right now, the laws in most states would keep him on the ballot.

Even if the cowardly GOP creatures who sucked up to him when he was doing well and run from him when the media tells them to, even if they sacked up enough to hasten Trump’s exit, they probably could not get him off the ballot in 270 EC votes’ worth of states. Lawsuits would drag out past election day.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:08 pm

Dump Trump is completely ridiculous at this point. That would LITERALLY throw the election!

The ballots are already printed up in most states. Most states have laws binding electors. You think the Democrats aren’t going to sue in all 50 states to keep Trump’s replacement off the ballot? And the laws binding electors, how is there time to get them changed? Is the RNC supposed to sue their own nominee and 50 state governments between now and election day?

People are getting delusional.

I agree. I like the sentiment, because I like anything that undermines Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. But come on. Be realistic.

Plus, why is this such a big deal?? Everyone knew what he was like.

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:08 pm

@Patterico:why is this such a big deal?? Everyone knew what he was like.

It’s big deal because the media tells us it is, and Republican office-holders are stupid enough to take it at face value.

This is the most frustrating thing ever. I can forgive the GOP nominating Trump, because they didn’t see it coming and didn’t know how to deal with it and so had nothing in place to prevent it. And the guy was after all winning primaries, usually with extra-high turnout. I can also forgive anyone in the GOP who refused to go along with it.

But I can’t forgive anyone in the GOP, having already gone along, to abandon the guy they nominated over something from 2005 that is much less bad than the Democrat nominees husband is pretty much all the time.

This sort of thing never bother Democrats about their own. They close ranks, win the election, then get their real issues implemented.

Do you know that China officially has 8 political parties? They all defer to the Communist party, and once in a while a few of them are allowed to hold a low-level office.

But that’s in a totalitarian system. The GOP is adopting this role voluntarily.

Political opposition to Hillary Clinton, if it is going to be allowed, is going to have to come from a different party. I am not very hopeful about the reasonableness and sanity of its replacement. We can expect protectionism and aggressive nationalism at best.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:19 pm

#227 Gabriel Hanna, please remind us when Trump was “doing well.”

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:19 pm

@Cruz Supporter:#227 Gabriel Hanna, please remind us when Trump was “doing well.”

When he won all those primaries, and every time he was ahead in the polls and the media was talking about how it was their duty to abandon objectivity and deal with a manifest threat to the Republic and were savaging each other over who wasn’t being hard enough on Trump.

Why, were you out of the country the last four months?

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:22 pm

It’s big deal because the media tells us it is

The media told us stuff was important during the primaries. Every time a story came out they gleefully published it with the certainty that it would do him in.

And it never did.

I feel like I’m watching a show I have seen 50 times before and it’s the same old show except on this, the 51st time, everyone is suddenly freaking out.

I don’t get it.

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:23 pm

me and about 10 million other republicans will not ever bother voting republican again,

Aw, you’re just trying to cheer us up. It’s not necessary, but thank you anyway.

nk (dbc370) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:29 pm

@ Gabriel Hanna, #84 and #85:

The real poll of a Cruz-Clinton or a Rubio-Clinton race was the Trump nomination? Do tell.

Calling someone un-American, if they’re supporting Clinton or Trump, is just telling it like it is. Sorry you feel like you need to deflect your own poor behavior back on me…but I’m not responsible for you.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:30 pm

232-It’s the ones freaking out that don’t get it. Their renouncing Trump is more offensive to the republican base than what Trump said about groupies 10 years ago. As usual, they will betray their own voters in order to look righteous for the media. It’s an old story is why you feel like you’ve seen it 50 times, you’ve probably seen it 100 times. And Trump is the backlash.

They will never get it, because their egos won’t allow it.

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:33 pm

I feel like I’m watching a show I have seen 50 times before and it’s the same old show except on this, the 51st time, everyone is suddenly freaking out. I don’t get it.

Much of the electorate has been busy living their lives and not that tuned in to this until now or just tolerated it long enough.

CNN has compressed 17 years of JR’s comments on women from the Howard Stern Show into sound bite packages and dropping them on air like cluster bombs.

If he can weather and manage this ‘crisis’ JR may have still have a chance… but don’t bet the Southfork Ranch on it.

“Ay Carumba!” – Bart Simpson, almost any episode, ‘The Simpsons’ Fox TV

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:35 pm

@ LBascom, #224:

If the Republican party is successful in dumping and replacing trump, me and about 10 million other republicans will not ever bother voting republican again, meaning not only will you be getting president Hillary, you will lose massive numbers in congress, guaranteed.

But…but…I thought that if you didn’t vote for whoever the Republicans put up, that was a vote for the Democrat! And you’ll be responsible for everything bad that happens!!!!1!!11!!!

And so it is that we see this argument, meant to cow Never Trump advocates into lining up behind an unacceptable candidate, was just projection all along.

I may not always be able to live up to my own principles, but you never can. By definition. Because you have none.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:36 pm

232-It’s the ones freaking out that don’t get it. Their renouncing Trump is more offensive to the republican base than what Trump said about groupies 10 years ago. As usual, they will betray their own voters in order to look righteous for the media. It’s an old story is why you feel like you’ve seen it 50 times, you’ve probably seen it 100 times. And Trump is the backlash.

They will never get it, because their egos won’t allow it.

Yup. Don’t get me wrong: I believe people should have repudiated Trump long before this. But if you haven’t, then I question your sudden conversion. You just realized Trump is crude? a misogynist? a jerk? Really?

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:37 pm

Trump was never the Republican Base. White-Power people are not the Republican Base. Misogynists are not the Republican Base.

Trump is a grotesque. So are the neo-nazi skinheads who are trumpeting him. They can have each other; I want nothing to do with any of them.

John Hitchcock (7fcee0) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:38 pm

Gabriel Hanna,

When has Trump done “well” since the primaries? Where have you been the past four months? The general election is what counts. We told you guys during the primaries that he’d get his butt kicked in the general election because he has more baggage than a Delta flight to Honolulu.

Trump won only a plurality of primary voters, and the GOP machinations only got behind him when his nomination was inevitable. Even going into the convention, there was nervousness that a coup would be staged and he would be dumped.

illary is begging to be defeated, but instead of talking about the Barack-illary incompetence of the past 8 years, we’re talking about Billy Bush.
Not George Bush, not Jeb Bush — but Billy Bush.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:40 pm

Rob Portman of Ohio joins Senate colleagues in renouncing Trump – with a twist “I will be voting for Mike Pence.”.

BTW – Reince Priebus has already redirected GOTV effort and money away from Trump to Senate and House efforts.

Rick Ballard (b9de6e) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:41 pm

I believe people should have repudiated Trump long before this. But if you haven’t, then I question your sudden conversion. You just realized Trump is crude? a misogynst? a jerk? Really?

It happens to the best of ‘poor corrupt officials.’

Christ, Bubba was heckled as ‘rapist’ today and his immediate response: ‘Oh really?’

“I’m shocked… shocked to find that gambling is going on in there.” – Captain Renault [Claude Rains] ‘Casablanca’ – 1942

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:50 pm

@Cruz Supporter We told you guys

Who’s we, kemosabe? I voted for Cruz just like you. What I didn’t do, is join in the #NeverTrump denunciations of the Republican nominee. He’s still less dangerous to the country than Hillary, in my opinion, and if anyone but Trump had won the nomination, the media would STILL be doing this to him and the Party of Stupid would STILL dance to the media’s tune over it.

Disavow and deny has never worked for the GOP before and it won’t now.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:57 pm

Not only is it cowardly, it won’t even work.

I have to conclude that the GOP cares only about individually holding office, and not about actually winning an election in order to implement conservative policies.

Like Douglas Adams said, lizard people.

And how sad must Cruz be? Day late and a dollar short every time. He would have been a good man to HAVE in office but he doesn’t seem to understand politics well enough to get INTO office.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:01 pm

Gabriel Hanna,

Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Walker, and Fiorina each has only 1% of the personal baggage that Trump does.
If Rubio were the nominee, the national conversation would be how the son of a bartender & a maid at Motel 6 is talking about helping Americans achieve the American Dream. The national conversation would also be about how the Barack-illary feckless foreign policy has sowed the seeds of discord in numerous hot spots around the planet.
Instead, I bet Monica Lewinsky’s name gets mentioned in the debate tomorrow night.
So, it’s really quite unsporting to suggest that any of the aforementioned candidates would be wrapped up in tabloid controversies every night on the Evening News the way that Trump is.

Of course, I’ll vote for a ham sandwich over illary, but Trump’s really going to hurt the country by failing to derail illary’s Election Day victory.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:11 pm

@Cruz Supporter:. The national conversation would also be about how the Barack-illary feckless foreign policy

Not about speeding tickets, or luxury speedboats, or how he drinks water, or how his company gave someone breast cancer, or something he did in high school, or something his wife did?

I’m sorry, Cruz Supporter, it is to laugh. Trump has more real baggage, it is true, but everyone already knew about it. The general public would be learning about Rubio right now, and they would be learning about what the media saw fit to tell them.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:17 pm

“244.Not only is it cowardly, it won’t even work.
I have to conclude that the GOP cares only about individually holding office, and not about actually winning an election in order to implement conservative policies.”

This started to become obvious 20 years ago or so, It was clearly obvious in 2008 with McCain ran, and rub-in-your-face obvious in 2012 with Romney. And how-could-you-have missed-it obvious in 2015/2016 when Jeb was slated to be the anointed one.

The people who we thought were the Conservative leaders — NRO, WeeklyStandard, etc. — turned out to be playing us for dupes.

“If Rubio were the nominee, the national conversation would be how the son of a bartender & a maid at Motel 6 is talking about helping Americans achieve the American Dream. So, it’s really quite unsporting to suggest that any of the aforementioned candidates would be wrapped up in tabloid controversies every night on the Evening News the way that Trump is. ”

…said a person who has never experienced a Presidential election in the last 50 years. My God, even Mr. Squeekyclean Mitt Romney got treated like dog poop.
Only difference is that Trump fights and all the others curled up and let them beat him and then apologized for bruising their knuckles with his face.

fred-2 (ce04f3) — 10/8/2016 @ 7:54 pm

“But…but…I thought that if you didn’t vote for whoever the Republicans put up, that was a vote for the Democrat!”

Geez, talk about missing the forest for the trees.

Republicans are the people in their millions that identify as republican, D.C. politicians are their REPRESENTITIVES. The people nominated Trump, by the rules, fair and square. If the representatives of the people want to go over the heads of those they claim to represent, then there is no longer a republican party representing the will of the people.

For someone touting principles, in all their shining glory, you sure are intellectually dishonest.

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:20 pm

“Alinsky will play you like a top forever.” <— This.

gp (0c542c) — 10/8/2016 @ 9:55 pm

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 10/8/2016 @ 2:43 am

I should have mentioned that Schindler is correct; the Clintons do excel at personal vendettas.

Not really. Pr here’d be a lot more.

With them, it’s not personal, it’s business. They actually try to avoid making enemies, because enemies can hurt them in unknown ways. Everything is becaude of the future, or possible danger.

They can beat up defenseless girls. But Putin, the Mullahs, the CHICOMs, h3ll even Ayman al Zawahiri and Kim Jong Un are entirely out of their league.

Of course. The girls can’t hit back, or they’ve already started to damage them or the ptential is too great.

1. Bill Clinton kept Linda Tripp on the payroll all the time he was president. No vendetta. Precaution. (Linda Tripp lost her job when George W. Bush became president, because she wasn’t in fact, civil service. Bill Clinton had deliberately keept her on the ayrll to keep her quiet about anomalies in the Vincent Foster case, and about his face being bruised, she was told, by Hillary.)

2. Bill Clinton tried his best to keep Monica Lewinsky on the government payroll, even arranging ajob for her in New York, working for Bill Richardson, then Ambassador to the United Nations. (which she ddin’t take, but Bill Clinton wanted her to take it, to keep her under his control.)

3. Bill and Hillary Clinton made a point, back in 1978, of thanking Juanita Broderick for her silence. (That also scared her because of the way things were only hinted at by Hillary Clinton.)

On the other hand, yes:

1. He did try to steal Gennifer Flowers’ tapes but that was because it was more dangerous to him for her to have the tapes than for him to try to steal them, which he did very cautiously. Then they hired a private detective to claim the tapes were doctored, which slowed reporters down at least. (they are also now not confirming the accuracy of the hacked John Podesta e-mails, saying the Russians might have changed something. Putin may actually do that, later, but not with tese. Forgeries are also pretty easy to detect linguistically and so on.)

2. Bill Clinton murdered the Branch Davidians because it was more dangerous (to his plans anyway) to keep them alive, because Friend of Bill Jay William Buford, head of the BATF in Little Rock, and one of he planners of the raid and the most actiive person in “improving” the wacco search warrant after Bill Clintons election, had murdered three of his own men in front of KWTX-TV cameras. (except that he was all disguised in a uniform, but if the events of Feb 28, 1993 had been reconstructed, that would have come out)

They always take the safest course (except not doing these crimes, maybe)

Sometimes people suffer because doing bad things to people fit into their plans and they don’t even know Bill or Hillary Clinton is their enemy.

Sammy Finkelman (6e331b) — 10/9/2016 @ 7:39 am

@ LBascom, #248:

Republicans are the people in their millions that identify as republican, D.C. politicians are their REPRESENTITIVES.

Change the spelling, and I agree.

Here’s the problem with your response, Sparky. Those politicians now abandoning Trump? Most of them are also nominees and/or representatives of the Republican Party. Who are you to say that they don’t represent the voice of their constituents? I am very sure that most Republicans in Utah, to pick the most obvious state, would love to see Reince Priebus kick Trump off the ticket. So how are Mike Lee and Jason Chaffetz and Mia Love NOT giving voice to the average Utahn? I guess in your world, they don’t deserve a voice.

Oh, and the other problem with your response is that many of Trump’s votes came from Democrats and independents who crossed over to vote for him. So many, in fact, that I think there’s a legitimate argument to be had about whether Trump actually is the nominee of the Republicans of this nation. More people voted for his opponents than for him…a margin that would only widen if you removed all the open-primary votes that I dearly hope are excluded from the GOP primary process starting in 2020.

For someone touting principles, in all their shining glory, you sure are intellectually dishonest.

Coming from a Trump supporter, the accusation of intellectual dishonesty is rich. Go pick the log out of your own candidate’s eye before you go after any mote in mine.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 10/9/2016 @ 8:38 am

@Demosthenese:the other problem with your response is that many of Trump’s votes came from Democrats and independents who crossed over to vote for him. So many, in fact, that I think there’s a legitimate argument to be had about whether Trump actually is the nominee of the Republicans of this nation.

Once again you contradict yourself. If so many non-Republicans wanted to vote for Trump that they’re the reason he won, then you can’t plausibly claim that some other Republican would be doing better than Trump in the general.

Gabriel Hanna (4b5ebc) — 10/9/2016 @ 8:51 am

Demosthenes, spin all you want, Trump was elected fair and square by the rules of the republican primary system. If you believe the establishment can disregard the will of the voters, then you are part of the problem, and your principles are garbage. And the fact that the establishment believes that is why they got Trump. And the fact that they still haven’t learned they are elected representatives and not royalty just proves they are not worthy of support from the American people.

Trump is not the problem, he is the response to the problem. Actually the TEA Party was the first response, and they were sabotaged by the establishment. If Trump is sabotaged, you are really going to hate the next response.

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/9/2016 @ 12:13 pm

#252 Gabriel Hanna,

Friend, stop with the equivalency between the primaries and the general election.
Just because Rubio didn’t defeat Trump in the GOP primaries, doesn’t mean Rubio (or another GOP nominee) wouldn’t mop the floor with illary in the general election.

You’re making such a flawed assertion.
In the primaries, there were a ton of candidates — it wasn’t a head-to-head match-up.

On the other hand a general election IS a head-to-head match-up, and zillions more people who didn’t vote in any primary are up for grabs in the general election.

Trump only got a plurality of GOP votes in the primaries. But you don’t actually think that is his ceiling among GOP voters in the general election, do you? (Of course, not.)
If Rubio were the GOP nominee, he’d probably get a higher percentage of turnout among GOP voters than Trump would for the simple fact that a lot of Republicans hate Trump, but very few Republicans hate Rubio.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/9/2016 @ 12:33 pm

Cruz supporter, why do you insist on asserting your alternative reality of another candidate doing better against the Clinton media machine? Hanna is right about trying to have it both ways. Trump won with more votes than Romney received. Saying that is due do democrat votes affecting the primary while denying there will be such democrat crossover in the general is just trying to have your cake and eat it too. The primaries are done, get over it.

And Rubio is despised by tons of Republicans because of his gang of eight betrayal. Plus he was so stupid he brought up hand size (in a transparent way of mocking Trumps pee-pee) in a debate. Do you really think he is ready for the big leagues?

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/9/2016 @ 1:14 pm

the whole idea that the us senate is some kind of wholesome well you can dip into to find presidents is seriously nutty

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/9/2016 @ 1:17 pm

LBascom,

Rubio doesn’t have any baggage.
He would easily be a much more electable nominee VS illary.

Why is this even debatable?

Rubio’s extremely articulate and knowledgeable about the issues.
On the other hand, effing Trump doesn’t know jack-sh*t about the issues.

The reason there was a lot of Democrat cross-over in the GOP primaries is because they wanted this goddamn piece of trash to become our nominee, knowing that he would get his butt kicked in the general election.
Why do you think this Access Hollywood tape was held onto until a MONTH before the election?
IF the Democrats “feared” a Trump nomination, they would have attempted to de-rail him with this tape during the primaries.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/9/2016 @ 1:24 pm

Mr. Trump’s a good guy Mr. Supporter – resilient and stalwart in the face of adversity!

he’s no “goddamn piece of trash” (like the previous two nominees)

He stands. He fights.

And he’s beautiful.

happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/9/2016 @ 1:28 pm

“Why do you think this Access Hollywood tape was held onto until a MONTH before the election?”

Because they thought the other 80 attempts to knock him out would work? You do remember all those other times the nevertrumpers gleefully told us THIS time will be the time? Well, they are doing it again.

Really, it amazes me how, even today after so much evidence, republicans are lead around by the nose by democrat operatives with bylines.

Trump in a landslide, while Rubio will be lucky to get re-elected in Florida. You may have forgot why Trump is our nominee (the bases anger at the establishment, who are now trying to out-establishment even themselves), but the majority of the republican base hasn’t. If Trump doesn’t win, you better prepare yourself for republicans never winning again. If losing the base doesn’t get you, demographics will.

But by all means, keep telling us how magnificent the primary losers WOULD have been, it’s so helpful.

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/9/2016 @ 2:35 pm

LBascom,

They held onto this tape until now knowing it would be so devastating and TOO LATE for the GOP to replace him with someone else.
The Democrats didn’t want to knock him out during the primaries — they wanted him to become the nominee so they could knee-cap him late in the game.

Sure, Trump won against “the field” of a thousand GOP candidates.
But he didn’t beat Rubio (or anyone else) one-on-one.
In a general election, it’s a one-on-one match-up where blustery soundbites only go so far. At some point, you have to stand at the podium underneath the hot lights and show some mastery of the issues and instill confidence in people that you’re “the guy” with some solutions.
Rubio is masterful in a debate where he has time to speak. Team illary feared him the most.

You say Trump’s going to win in a landslide.
I say he’ll lose.
We’ll see, huh?

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:00 pm

Cruz supporter, why do you insist on asserting your alternative reality of another candidate doing better against the Clinton media machine?

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/9/2016 @ 1:14 pm

Because the polls clearly showed that. They were mentioned repeatedly during the primaries including in the debates but Trumpers thought that since Trump kept winning primaries that somehow disproved those polls. The primaries and the general are two different things, but that simple point never seems to penetrate.

Gerald A (a48c32) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:07 pm

@261- If memory serves, the polls told Dewey two weeks before the election he was going to crush Truman.

“Oops.”– Rick Perry, Presidential primary debate, 2012

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:13 pm

DCSCA, and I bet Truman supporters weren’t getting beat up, losing their jobs, and denied service for saying they like Trump. Not to mention getting their yard signs stolen and their cars keyed if they have a bumper sticker.

From what I gather, the pollsters are using the last election’s turnout data, when I believe, like in the primaries, turnout is going to be significantly higher. And the enthusiasm as shown by rallies is clearly on Trump’s side.

Like the man said, we shall see…

LBascom (1ec93b) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:46 pm

@261- If memory serves, the polls told Dewey two weeks before the election he was going to crush Truman.

“Oops.”– Rick Perry, Presidential primary debate, 2012

DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:13 pm

I don’t think there even were any two weeks before the election. Whatever polls they did take are understood to have heavily oversampled Republicans in those days because they were more likely to have a phone.

Gerald A (a48c32) — 10/9/2016 @ 3:48 pm

Patterico (bcf524) — 10/8/2016 @ 6:23 pm

I feel like I’m watching a show I have seen 50 times before and it’s the same old show except on this, the 51st time, everyone is suddenly freaking out.

I don’t get it.

I don’t really get it either, except, maybe:

A) Somebody somehow started a bandwagon. And there’s something going on we don’t know.

And you have to wonder if somehow the Clinton campaign got the ball rolling through contacts, with campaign consultants, or media outlets maybe, and started a panic. They could hae instigated some e-mails or telephone calls, too, maybe from some people both they and Donald Trump know.

And now it’s Donald Trump who’s freaking out. He even apologized – twice – on Friday night, first with a smaller written apology (that claimed he’d personally heard worse from Bill Clinton – you realize that in so doing he actually admitted he knows Bill Clinton reasonably well – their daughters are friends actually to) and then avideo apology – and he’s never done that before.

With Alicia Machado he could not say “Not everything I did in my life was right” but now somehow he managed it. With that, he could have also said, if that’s the worst thing anybody ever did in their life…

B) This time, it’s Reince Priebus who is freaking out, and he’s taken off all the pressure on Republican candidates for Congress to endorse Trump. So all the people he kept in line are reversing themselves.

C) (Maybe included with B) The worry is that there is more, and that Donald Trump is not able to right the ship. Maybe something more on taxes, maybe more old video. And this changes the calculation.

Sammy Finkelman (6e331b) — 10/9/2016 @ 4:36 pm

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