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10/2/2016

Video: Tapper Slams Trump For Accusing Hillary Of Being Unfaithful: “An Unhinged And Wild Accusation”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:58 am



Jake Tapper unloaded on Donald Trump this morning for casually suggesting, with no evidence whatsoever, that Hillary Clinton has been unfaithful to Bill Clinton. Watch how bug-eyed Rudy keeps trying to change the subject to what he wishes Trump had said — that Hillary Clinton has attacked Bill Clinton’s female victims and taken money from misogynistic Islamist regimes — instead of what Trump actually said, which was that Hillary had been unfaithful:

TAPPER: Donald Trump launched a wild and unsubstantiated attack against Hillary Clinton last night. Take a listen.

[TRUMP ON VIDEO:] I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, if you want to know the truth. And really, folks, really. Why should she be, right?

TAPPER: Mr. Mayor, is that normal, stable behavior for a presidential nominee to launch an unsubstantiated attack?

RUDY GIULIANI: After she called him a racist, a misogynist, a, xenophobic, I don’t know, schizophrenic, and I don’t know what else she called him at the end of that debate. I think it’s fair game.

TAPPER: Just to make stuff up? Just wild accusations, Hillary Clinton’s cheating on Bill? No proof of it whatsoever? Everything’s fair game?

GIULIANI: That was a sarcastic remark pointing out that Bill Clinton has, you know, quite a past and Hillary Clinton has done quite a job on attacking the people who were victims of Bill Clinton. And not only that, she poses as a feminist and she’s taken money from countries that stone women, kill women, have women —

TAPPER: Bill Clinton is not the nominee, sir. Bill Clinton’s not the nominee. And this is my last question for you. Is the Trump campaign, is Donald Trump and the people around Donald Trump really the ones to be casting aspersions on the marriages of anyone else?

GIULIANI: It isn’t the marriage, it isn’t the marriage. It’s the way she goes on the attack and tries to hurt victims of sexual predations. She is the one that says victims should be taken seriously.

TAPPER: That wasn’t about her marriage? Him saying that she’s not loyal to Bill isn’t about her marriage?

GIULIANI: I am saying the problem with Hillary Clinton has nothing to do, as far as I’m concerned, with her marriage. It’s her protection of Bill Clinton for 20 or 25 years against allegations of rape, taking advantage of an intern, and going on the attack and trying to make those women appear to be insane in some cases. Also it’s her posing as a feminist and taking millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars from countries that kill women, stone women, don’t allow women to drive, don’t allow women to have rights, and use women as property.

TAPPER: I mean, I just find it hard to believe that Mr. Trump would want to start leveling accusations about people’s marriages. But that’s all the time we have Mr. Mayor.

GIULIANI: I think the accusations are about Hillary Clinton taking money from countries —

TAPPER: The accusation was that Hillary Clinton was cheating on Bill. That’s what the accusation was. It was an unhinged and wild accusation. I can understand why you can’t defend it because it’s indefensible.

No doubt the Dilbert guy and other Trump defenders have blog entries explaining that this is eight-dimensional chess: raising the issue of Hillary’s fidelity and the evidence be damned; taking the focus off his tax returns, etc. etc. Trump is a TV candidate for a TV culture, and I guess we’re past the notion of needing actual evidence of some kind before leveling an accusation. It’s nice to see people here and there like Tapper speaking out against it.

UPDATE: It is probably worth noting that Hillary has engaged in some baseless smears in the past, very similar to Trump’s more recent ones.

Hillary even said in an interview with Vanity Fair that year that a wealthy Atlanta businesswoman had told her about an alleged affair that her husband’s rival, George H.W. Bush, had had with a close aide. It’s all “apparently well known in Washington,” she said slyly. Hillary was referring to Jennifer Fitzgerald, with whom Bush was rumored to have had a romantic relationship for years. “I’m convinced part of it is that the Establishment—regardless of party—sticks together. They’re gonna circle the wagons on Jennifer,” she said.

The way to deal with that, for Trump and his surrogates, is to point out what Hillary has done in the past — not to engage in baseless smears of their own.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

105 Responses to “Video: Tapper Slams Trump For Accusing Hillary Of Being Unfaithful: “An Unhinged And Wild Accusation””

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. she has enough diseases without getting bill’s nasty herpes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. yes, she was a party to a fraud, like when she financed those ads blaming the shawwal offensive on a video, try to keep up,

    narciso (d1f714)

  4. hillary was like oh no way in hell herpes boy

    you want some hot monkey love you can go rape juanita

    this candy shop is closed

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  5. “Trump is a TV candidate for a TV culture, and I guess we’re past the notion of needing actual evidence of some kind before leveling an accusation.”

    I know, huh? And I can see why a DDA would be especially sensitive to such an unscrupulous tactic.

    Oh, but wait…

    http://patterico.com/2016/09/29/usa-today-issues-very-rare-presidential-anti-endorsement-trump-is-unfit-to-be-president/#comment-1932835

    LBascom (2f3828)

  6. I guess we’re past the notion of needing actual evidence of some kind before leveling an accusation

    kinda like there’s absolutely zero evidence Mr. Trump did anything wrong with his taxes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Besides, as nevertrumpers never get tired of telling us, Trump has been friends with the Clintons forever. Maybe he does have evidence…

    LBascom (2f3828)

  8. George Stephanopoulos’s Wife On CNN: ‘Is Monogamy Killing Your Marriage?’

    cnn lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. there’s no indication tapper started out for working for chelsea’s motherinlaw is there?

    narciso (d1f714)

  10. Democrats level unsupported charges all the time. Now we have one doing the same while running as a republican.

    crazy (d3b449)

  11. Yes, because Tapper is such an upstanding man. As a purported “journalist”, providing the list of softball questions he’d be asking of the Democrat to be “interviewed”.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. he’s kinda sleazy huh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. Jakey Boy looks very metro with his salon-shaped eyebrows.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. Sowell:

    COLUMNISTS
    Thomas Sowell: Our Political Predicament — A Big Risk Vs. A Certain Disaster
    THOMAS SOWELL9/19/2016
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    There is no point denying or sugar-coating the plain fact that the voters this election year face a choice between two of the worst candidates in living memory. A professor at Morgan State University summarized the situation by saying that the upcoming debates may enable voters to decide which is the “less insufferable” candidate to be President of the United States.

    My own take on this election is that the voter is in a situation much like that of an American fighter pilot in World War II, whose plane has been hit by enemy fire out over the Pacific Ocean and is beginning to burst into flames.

    If he bails out, there is no guarantee that his parachute will open. But even if he lands safely in the ocean, he may be eaten by sharks. If he comes down on land, he may be captured by the Japanese and tortured and/or killed.

    In other words, there are huge and potentially fatal risks. But, if he remains in the plane, he is doomed for certain. To me, Donald Trump represents multiple and potentially fatal risks. But Hillary Clinton is a certainty of disaster. Her vaunted “experience” is an experience of having repeatedly made decisions that turned out to be not merely wrong but catastrophic.

    Binary.

    DNF (755a85)

  15. oh my goodness zero hedge found four tapper gems from this same interview what make him look like an incredibly sleazy bought and paid for clinton propaganda slut

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. Upper middle-class #nevertrump thinks we’re too stupid and inconstant to remember their depravity.

    Not hardly.

    DNF (755a85)

  17. “Donald Trump said during the debate that not paying federal income taxes makes him smart. Does that mean the rest of who don’t look for every possible loophole and provisions to avoid paying our fair share of taxes… does that mean the rest of us are stupid?” – Jake Tapper

    oh dear – he apparently really actually said that out loud

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  18. “I think that there are a lot of very very successful businessmen and women who pay federal income taxes and don’t look for every single opportunity there is to avoid paying them.” – Jake Tapper

    oh dear

    I guess we’re past the notion of needing actual evidence of some kind before leveling an assertion

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. “I think most Americans are probably offended. I know most Americans pay their federal income taxes.”

    oh dear

    does lil jakey pickles, boy journalist, have any evidence to back up the assertion that Mr. Trump didn’t pay every penny he owed

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  20. Attkisson:

    The Takeaways
    The FBI could not review all of the Hillary Clinton emails under investigation because:

    The Clintons’ Apple personal server used for Hillary Clinton work email could not be located for the FBI to examine.
    An Apple MacBook laptop and thumb drive that contained Hillary Clinton email archives were lost, and the FBI couldn’t examine them.
    2 BlackBerry devices provided to FBI didn’t have their SIM or SD data cards.
    13 Hillary Clinton personal mobile devices were lost, discarded or destroyed. Therefore, the FBI couldn’t examine them.
    Various server backups were deleted over time, so the FBI couldn’t examine them.
    After State Dept. notified Hillary Clinton her records would be sought by House Benghazi Committee, copies of her email on the laptops of her attorneys Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson were wiped with BleachBit, and the FBI couldn’t review them.
    After her emails were subpoenaed, Hillary Clinton’s email archive was also permanently deleted from her then-server “PRN” with BleachBit, and the FBI couldn’t review it.
    Also after the subpoena, backups of the PRN server were manually deleted.
    Even though the FBI did not have a complete record of Hillary Clinton’s emails on three unclassified personal servers, it found:
    2,093 emails State Dept. currently classifies as Confidential or Secret. (State Dept. did not address what their classification was at the time they were sent.)
    193 emails (81 separate email conversations) that were classified at the time they were sent, ranging from “Confidential” to “Top Secret/Special Access Program.”
    68 of the 81 email chains remain classified today.
    8 were Top Secret.
    37 were Secret.
    36 were Confidential.
    7 were Special Access Program.
    3 were Sensitive Compartmentalized Information.
    36 were Not Releasing to Foreign Governments.
    2 were Releasable Only to Five Allied Partners.
    12 of the suspect email chains were not provided by Hillary’s attorneys. The FBI found them other ways.
    The email chains contained classified information from 5 other agencies: CIA, DOD, FBI, NGA and NSA.
    The Players (as they surface in timeline)
    Justin Cooper: President Bill Clinton aide
    Bryan Pagliano: Computer technician from Hillary Clinton ‘08 campaign
    Huma Abedin: Hillary Clinton aide
    Eric Boswell: State Dept. Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security
    John Bentel: State Dept. Information Technology official who handled Hillary Clinton’s issues
    Jake Sullivan: Hillary Clinton aide
    Cheryl Mills: Hillary Clinton chief of staff and attorney
    Raymond Maxwell: Former State Dept. Deputy Assistant Secretary
    Monica Hanley: Hillary Clinton aide
    Sid Blumenthal: Hillary Clinton friend and adviser
    Heather Samuelson: Hillary Clinton campaign worker and attorney
    David Kendall of Williams & Connolly: Hillary Clinton attorney

    3 Known Clinton Private Servers: Apple, “Pagliano,” and Platte River Networks (PRN)

    The Timeline
    2007: Hillary Clinton announces run for President. Bill Clinton aide Justin Cooper buys an Apple server for a new email system to be located in the Clintons’ Chappaqua, NY residence.

    June 2008: Hillary drops out of Presidential race. Cooper sets up the Apple server.

    Fall 2008: Hillary aide Huma Abedin contacts Hillary campaign computer tech Bryan Pagliano to build 2nd server because the Apple—in use for just a few months—is “antiquated.”

    Hillary Clinton
    Hillary Clinton as secretary of state
    Jan. 2009: Hillary begins transitioning from her personal BlackBerry.net email to a clintonemail.com account on the “antiquated” Apple server.

    Jan. 11, 2009: Increase in cyberattack attempts on State Dept. employee personal email accounts.

    Jan. 21, 2009: Hillary becomes secretary of state. She declines a State Dept. email address and instead uses her personal BlackBerry in office.

    Feb. 2009: Hillary travels to Asia, her first overseas trip as secretary of state.

    March 2, 2009: Security memo warns Hillary and Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills that it’s risky to use their personal email and BlackBerry devices.
    I cannot stress too strongly…that any unclassified BlackBerry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving e-mails, and exploiting calendars. –State Dept. memo from Eric Boswell of Diplomatic Security 3/2/2009.

    March 11, 2009: Hillary is told there’s “intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent [Feb.] trip to Asia.” She acknowledges to Boswell that she “gets it.”
    March 2009: State Dept. official handling Hillary computer security issues, John Bentel, reportedly receives memo showing that Hillary’s private server was set to be installed at her NY home. Bentel would later tell FBI he didn’t know Hillary was using a personal account or server.

    March 18, 2009: The server installed by Pagliano replaces the Apple, but Pagliano later tells FBI he didn’t transfer Hillary’s clintonemail.com account. The FBI could never locate or examine Apple server to determine facts.

    Feb. 9, 2011: State Dept. staff again raises concerns about Hillary and staff using electronic devices in their offices.

    March 2, 2011: State Dept. detects malicious cyber activity aimed at senior officials.

    April 2011: Hillary’s immediate staff is briefed again on cybersecurity threats.

    May 2011: Hillary’s immediate staff is briefed again.

    Aug. 30, 2011: Hillary requests a government device to replace her broken BlackBerry. After she’s told it would be subject to Freedom of Information Act records searches, no government device is issued.

    2011: Memo from Hillary cautions State Dept. employees about security and records retention, and advises not to use personal email for government business.

    Sept. 11, 2012: Islamic extremist terrorists attack Americans in Benghazi, Libya.

    Nov. 2012: State Dept. Accountability Review Board convenes to investigate Benghazi. Hillary aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan are reportedly seen at allegedly improper Benghazi “document sorting” session in State Dept. basement.

    Week of Dec. 9, 2012: Hillary faints and falls, suffering a concussion. State Dept. keeps it secret for several days.

    Dec. 4, 2012:

    Congressional investigators try to schedule interview with Bentel, Hillary’s State Dept. information technology officer.
    He declines.
    He retires from State Dept. in December.
    Dec. 15, 2012: Hillary postpones her Congressional testimony on Benghazi due to illness.

    Dec. 30, 2012: State Dept. discloses discovery of “blood clot” in Clinton’s head from the concussion.

    Early 2013: Pagliano plans to seek other work. Clinton staff begins searching for vendor to manage a new, 3rd Clinton email server.

    Jan. 2, 2013: Platte River Networks of Denver (PRN) wins contract for new Clinton server.

    Jan. 7, 2013: Hillary returns to work.

    Jan. 23, 2013: Hillary testifies to Congress on Benghazi attacks.

    Presidential nominee, Democrat Hillary Clinton
    Presidential nominee, Democrat Hillary Clinton
    Feb. 1, 2013: Hillary’s last day as secretary of state. She fails to produce her federal records as required by law.

    Spring 2013:

    Hillary aide Monica Hanley and Cooper put Hillary email archive on an Apple MacBook laptop and thumb drive.
    But Hanley later tells FBI she forgot to give laptop and thumb drive to Hillary’s staff.
    The laptop and thumb drive are lost and the FBI cannot examine.
    March 14, 2013: Hillary confidant Sid Blumenthal’s AOL email is hacked by Romanian cyber hacker “Guccifer,” uncovering a memo to Hillary with classified “confidential” information.

    June 2013: According to a book later written by Bill, Hillary finally recovers from her Dec. 2012 illness about now.

    June 23, 2013: Pagliano server is moved to Equinix datacenter, NJ which “serves the world’s largest financial, media, and enterprise companies.”

    Read: The Definitive Hillary Email Timeline (prior to FBI report)

    June 30, 2013: Pagliano server email accounts are transferred to the new PRN server.

    July 18, 2013: Clintons sign formal deal with PRN for new email server.

    Early 2014: Hanley says she finds Apple MacBook laptop from Spring of 2013 at her home and tries, but fails, to remotely transfer Hillary email archive to PRN server.

    Feb. 2014:

    Hanley ships Apple MacBook laptop to unidentified person who transfers Hillary email archive to Gmail address, then to PRN server.
    Hanley instructs unidentified person to delete and/or wipe Hillary email archive from Apple MacBook and Gmail.
    Unidentified person ships Apple MacBook via US Postal Service or UPS to unidentified female Hillary associate who later tells FBI she never received it.
    Nobody can find the Apple MacBook or thumb drive containing Hillary archive email.
    May 8, 2014: House Benghazi committee is established.

    Summer of 2014: State Dept. notifies Hillary aide Cheryl Mills that it will be requesting Hillary’s work emails.

    July 23, 2014: Congressional Benghazi committee reaches agreement with State Dept. on production of records.

    July 2014:

    Mills initiates review of any Hillary work emails with .gov addresses that were transferred from Pagliano server to PRN server.
    The emails don’t include the Jan-March 2009 emails lost on the missing Apple server.
    The .gov work emails are put in a file on laptops of Mills and Hillary attorney Heather Samuelson.
    These laptop email files would later be wiped using BleachBit so they could never be recovered. The FBI was unable to review them.
    August, 2014: State Dept. provides House Benghazi Committee with eight emails to or from Clinton that show her use of a private email account.

    Sept. 15, 2014: Sharyl Attkisson reports on State Dept. official who said he witnessed Benghazi document sorting session with Hillary aides in State Dept. basement in 2013.

    Late Sept. 2014:

    Mills and Samuelson review the rest of the available Hillary emails, besides the .gov.
    These email files would later be wiped using BleachBit so they could never be recovered. The FBI was unable to review them.
    Selected emails are printed in Mills’ office and reviewed again by attorneys Samuelson, Mills and Hillary attorney David Kendall of Williams & Connolly.
    “Non-work” emails are shredded.
    “Work” emails were printed and provided on USB drive to Kendall.
    Dec. 2014: Hillary and Abedin begin using new email accounts on the domain hrcoffice.com.

    Dec. 5, 2014: Hard copies of Hillary work emails are given to State Dept.

    Dec. 2014: Hillary instructs her staff she no longer needs to keep the remaining “personal” emails.

    Dec. 2014 or Jan. 2015:

    Mills and Samuelson request unidentified person to delete the Hillary email files from their laptops.
    Software called “BleachBit” is used so it can never be recovered.
    Unknown Hillary staffer also wants Hillary email archive removed from PRN server.
    Mills asks for shortened email retention for clintonemail.com account because Hillary decides she no longer needs emails older than 60 days.
    July 10, 2015: FBI begins investigation Hillary email situation after U.S. Intelligence Community Inspector General refers the case of possible improper handling of classified information.
    March 2, 2015:

    NYT article exposes fact that Clinton used personal email account exclusively for state business.
    PRN technicians conduct work on Pagliano server at Equinix datacenter.
    Mills later tells FBI they were working on the server because she asked them to conduct an equipment inventory.
    March 3, 2015: House Benghazi committee requests Hillary attorneys at Williams & Connolly to preserve and produce all documents and media related to her two clintonemail.com known addresses.
    March 4, 2015: House Benghazi committee privately subpoenas all Hillary emails related to Benghazi terrorist attacks. Clinton does not disclose the subpoenas but tweets, “I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible.”

    March 9, 2015: Mills emails PRN and makes reference to the preservation request from Congress. A PRN technician would later tell FBI he doesn’t remember seeing it.

    March 10, 2015: Clinton answers questions about her email practices for the first time. She tells reporters:

    It was more convenient to use the private server.
    “I wanted to use just one device for both personal and work emails instead of two.”
    Last year, she deleted nearly 31,000+ emails that were “private.”
    She will not turn over her personal email server.
    She “fully complied” with the law.
    She has turned over to the State Dept. 55,000 pages of work-related emails.
    There were 62,320 emails in her account: 30,490 were public business; 31,830 were private.
    March 25, 2015:

    PRN has conference call with Bill Clinton’s staff.
    PRN technician later tells FBI that, at this point, he realized he’d forgotten to shorten Hillary’s email retention (that Mills requested in Dec. 2014), so he now deletes the Clinton archive mailbox from PRN and uses BleachBit to permanently delete files holding the emails.
    FBI says one PRN technician gave three conflicting stories but acknowledged that, when he made deletions, he knew of Congress’ preservation request and knew he should not delete Hillary’s email data on PRN server.
    The FBI says somebody also manually deleted backups of the PRN server during this time frame. Clinton and Mills say they were unaware of these deletions.
    March 31, 2015: There’s a conference call among PRN, Kendall and Mills. Later, PRN would exert attorney-client privilege and refuse to comment on conversation. This means Hillary’s attorneys are representing the PRN technician, too.

    May 27, 2015: In a Freedom of Information (FOI) lawsuit, the court orders State Dept. to post emails on FOI website on a monthly schedule to complete by Jan 29, 2016. (State completes Feb 29, 2016.)

    July 28, 2015: Hillary revises her statement regarding classified email to say she is confident she never sent or received emails that were classified at the time. Later, the FBI would find Hillary sent or received 193 emails (81 separate email conversations) that were classified at the time they were sent, ranging from “Confidential” to “Top Secret/Special Access Program.”

    July 31 2015: The federal judge in a Judicial Watch FOI suit, Emmet Sullivan, orders State Dept. to request that Mills and Abedin confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all government records in their possession, return any other government records immediately, and describe their use of Hillary’s email server to conduct government business.

    Aug. 5, 2015: State Dept. sends letter to Hillary including Judge Sullivan’s order.

    Aug. 6, 2015: Mills’ attorney tells Judicial Watch that it has instructed Mills to “delete any and all electronic copies [of potential federal records] in her possession” after her anticipated production of records on Aug. 10. Judicial Watch files an emergency request to block the destruction.

    Aug. 11, 2015: Inspector General report to the Senate contradicts Hillary claims; some emails, says the IG, contained information that was classified at the time.

    Aug. 19, 2015: Hillary’s personal lawyer tells a Senate committee that all data, including emails, was erased from her server prior to it being turned over to the FBI. Hillary tells reporters the investigation surrounding her server “has nothing to do with me.” She contradicts the Inspector General by reiterating that she never sent or received classified material.

    Aug. 2015:

    FBI obtains Pagliano server.
    Williams & Connolly doesn’t disclose that there’s other related equipment, and that Hillary emails had been transferred to PRN server.
    PRN says, at this time, it realizes it’s accidentally backing up its Hillary server on the cloud rather than just locally as the Clintons had directed. It discontinues the cloud backups.

    Aug. 27, 2015: Hillary tells an Iowa audience that using a personal email server “…clearly wasn’t the best choice..I take responsibility…” She repeats her modified statement, “I never sent nor received any e-mail that was marked classified.”
    Sept. 10, 2015: Pagliano pleads the fifth before House Benghazi committee.

    October, 2015: Previously withheld Hillary emails reveal she told daughter Chelsea almost immediately that terrorists were behind the Benghazi attacks, yet told the public they were prompted by a protest over a YouTube video.

    Oct. 3, 2015: After learning about additional Pagliano server equipment, and that Hillary emails had been transferred to PRN server, FBI obtains equipment and PRN server.

    Oct. 14, 2015: Hillary attorneys at Williams & Connolly review an iMac of Hillary’s and assure the Justice Dept. that no work emails were found on it.

    Oct. 16, 2015: Williams & Connolly provides 2 Hillary Blackberry devices to FBI but forensics finds no evidence they were ever connected to her personal servers. They do not contain their SIM cards or SD secure digital cards.

    Oct. 28, 2015: State Dept. sends formal request to Hillary and other former secretaries asking for their work-related emails. Hillary directs attorneys Kendall and Mills to oversee.

    Jan. 7, 2016: FBI interviews Sid Blumenthal, who sent at least 24 memos currently classified “confidential” and at least one email classified as “Secret” at the time and currently to Hillary on unclassified system.

    Feb. 9, 2016: Justice Dept. requests all of Hillary’s 13 mobile devices.

    Feb. 22, 2016: Williams & Connolly tells DOJ it cannot locate any of the devices, so FBI was unable to examine the 13 mobile devices.

    Feb 27, 2016: Jake Sullivan is interviewed by FBI. He says he’s not concerned emails with classified information that he sent to Hillary on unclassified system.

    March 2016: Bentel declines to testify to Senate committee.

    March 31, 2016: Guccifer is extradited from Romania to US.

    April 5, 2016: FBI interviews Huma Abedin who sent at least one email classified as “confidential” to Hillary on her unclassified system.

    April 9, 2016: Cheryl Mills is interviewed by FBI. She refuses to answer some questions under attorney-client privilege. She says she’s not concerned by her decision to send Hillary emails with information later deemed “classified” on her unclassified system.

    May 25, 2016:

    State Dept. Inspector General (IG) says under Foreign Affairs Manual, employees are required to conduct day to day operations using authorized information system.
    IG says there’s “no evidence” Clinton sought approval to use her personal email account or private servers despite her obligation to do so.
    June 22, 2016: Pagliano pleads the fifth 125 times in deposition with conservative watchdog Judicial Watch.

    June 27, 2016: Attorney General Loretta Lynch meets privately with President Clinton. The two say it was a purely social visit.

    July 2, 2016: FBI interviews Hillary Clinton.

    July 4, 2016: Hillary indicates that, as President, she would likely keep Lynch as attorney general.

    July 5, 2016: FBI Director James Comey recommends no prosecution in Hillary email case.

    Read the FBI documents

    DNF (755a85)

  21. “Mr. Mayor, in 2012, Donald Trump tweeted ‘half of Americans don’t pay income tax despite crippling government debt.’ He is in that half that does not pay federal income taxes despite crippling government debt. When he rails against the junky infrastructure, when he rails against La Guardia Airport, when he talks about how bridges are collapsing, is he not responsible at least in part for the fact that these things are not being repaired?”

    oh dear

    how many tax monies at all levels of government does jakey pickle-biter thing Mr. Trump’s endeavours have generated at all levels of government?

    how many tax monies at all levels of government does jakey pickle-biter thing the diseased stinkypig’s endeavours have generated at all levels of government

    pls to show your work jakey

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. ugh *think* i mean

    not thing

    i bolloxed up the spelling and it’s all my own fault

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. UPDATE: It is probably worth noting that Hillary has engaged in some baseless smears in the past, very similar to Trump’s more recent ones.

    Hillary even said in an interview with Vanity Fair that year that a wealthy Atlanta businesswoman had told her about an alleged affair that her husband’s rival, George H.W. Bush, had had with a close aide. It’s all “apparently well known in Washington,” she said slyly. Hillary was referring to Jennifer Fitzgerald, with whom Bush was rumored to have had a romantic relationship for years. “I’m convinced part of it is that the Establishment—regardless of party—sticks together. They’re gonna circle the wagons on Jennifer,” she said.

    The way to deal with that, for Trump and his surrogates, is to point out what Hillary has done in the past — not to engage in baseless smears of their own.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  24. Red House Red State

    There’s a Red State over yonder,
    That’s where Patterico flays
    Lord, there’s a Red State over yonder
    Lord, that’s where Patterico flays
    He ain’t votin’ for the Republican candidate
    In thirty five and one half days
    Wait a minute, something’s wrong here
    His quest has become a big snore
    Wait a minute, something’s wrong, lord, have mercy
    His quest has become a big snore
    Something’s goin’ on here
    We have a bad bad feeling
    Pontifications don’t matter no more

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. 15. Tapper is also hippy, his pants work upwards.

    DNF (755a85)

  26. heck of a deal, isn’t it george will,

    http://babalublog.com/2016/10/02/russia-signs-deal-with-cubas-state-sponsor-of-terror-regime-to-sell-them-nuclear-technology/

    yes, I recall joe conason circulated that piece in kurt anderson’s publication, spy, he of the ‘short fingered vulgarians’ fame,

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. TAPPER: “The accusation was that Hillary Clinton was cheating on Bill. That’s what the accusation was.”

    No, Jake. And Patterico is perpetuating it. The statement was: [TRUMP ON VIDEO:] I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, if you want to know the truth. And really, folks, really. Why should she be, right?

    Nobody mentioned anything about being ‘unfaithful’– except Tapper. This has been a recurring weakness in him as a ‘journalist’- projecting. Cartooning is more his forte, but then print is dead. “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is,” eh, Jake?

    TAPPER: “That wasn’t about her marriage? Him saying that she’s not loyal to Bill isn’t about her marriage?” No, nitwit. But it’s quite revealing about where you mind is at Jake.

    “Loyalty is a fine thing.” General Savage [Gregory Peck] ‘Twelve O’Clock High’ 1949

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. i don’t think you understand the zeitgeist Mr. Colonel

    everyone’s defending their class prerogatives

    it’s the way that they wanna live

    this is operating on a level far far above right and wrong

    it’s tommy hobbesian

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  29. “baseless smears”

    Bubba says “Hill has eaten more pussythan he’d had.”

    DNF (755a85)

  30. There’s a Red State over yonder,
    That’s where Patterico flays
    Lord, there’s a Red State over yonder
    Lord, that’s where Patterico flays
    He ain’t votin’ for the Republican candidate
    In thirty five and one half days
    Wait a minute, something’s wrong here
    His quest has become a big snore
    Wait a minute, something’s wrong, lord, have mercy
    His quest has become a big snore
    Something’s goin’ on here
    We have a bad bad feeling
    Pontifications don’t matter no more

    And yet you’re still here.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  31. DCSCA: most laughable spin yet. Congrats.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  32. here’s the observation the null set hedgies make and I’m sure you’ll agree it is very compelling

    If Tapper could please provide his extensive research backing up his claim that a lot of “very successful businessmen and women” choose to not take advantage of common income tax deductions and instead pay more in federal income taxes than is actually due, we would very much appreciate it. If true, we suspect a lot of shareholders and lenders would be very interested in that particular information.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. omg Mr. narciso that dumb cop in the pic can’t even figure out how to take a selfie

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. 26. And the only way they have $1.1 Billion is via TFG and prog tourism.

    DNF (755a85)

  35. Soon to be rectified.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  36. Soon to be rectified.

    Wow. On the one hand, we have my years of blogging and the community we have (or at least used to have before Trump). On the other hand, we have my refusal to support a dishonest con man. I can see why the latter would outweigh the former!

    Well, it’s up to you. I’m not changing.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  37. Junior, you simply are not very skilled with words and nuance.

    OK, Bob23. Then get off my site. Goodbye.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  38. I mean, Bob23, why would you want to be here? You call me “Junior” and do nothing but insult me.

    I’m not banning you, but as far as I am concerned you can f**k off. I didn’t ask for your opinion and I don’t care what you think. You don’t like me? Go far, far away.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  39. Junior, you owe me an apology from the other day.

    I owe you nothing.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  40. 39. “I’m not changing.” Sorry dude, too late for that.

    DNF (755a85)

  41. The next time you call me “Junior” I will ban you, Bob23.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  42. poking the bear

    bears are terrifying i thought of getting hypnotherapy with that thompson twin guy back when i was in LA for to help me get over my oft-times crippling fear of being eated by bear

    but then i thought maybe that wasn’t a super-smart idea

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  43. 39. “I’m not changing.” Sorry dude, too late for that.

    How have I changed? I support the same principles I have always supported.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  44. @32– The truth can set you spinning. 😉

    “You’re bound to lose control when the Rubberband, starts to jam…” ‘Rubberband Man’ The Spinners, 1976

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. ooh the best of the spinners is free on amazon turdlord jeffy bezos’s prime music

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  46. @45– Surely you won’t object to Shirley? 😉

    “And don’t call me Shirley.”– Dr. Rumack [Leslie Nielsen,] ‘Airplane,’ 1980

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. #46 mr happyfeet, if you should ever come across a bear in the woods, I recommend against serenading it with Thompson Twins songs such as Hold Me Now or Lay Your Hands on Me.
    Otherwise, you’ll be needing a Doctor, Doctor. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  48. Are you not something of a “junior” at your place of work?

    Nope. You don’t know a thing about me, obviously. But that doesn’t stop you from offering a firmly held and entirely incorrect opinion. A perfect Trumper.

    So nice of you to give me permission to post what I like on my own site!

    Patterico (bcf524)

  49. And one more voice of reason has left.

    Anyway, it is no shame to leave the GOP. It is a shame not to do anything in one’s power to stop the corrupt Hillary Clinton from gaining office at this critical time in history.

    Donald Trump has warts. Clinton has treason.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  50. That’s the spirit.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  51. i never come across a bear my whole life

    but i make noises and such when i’m in the woods

    which means i never come across hardly any kinda woodland creatures

    I wanna backpack in back country someday though it’s my destiny

    but to do that i’ll have to face my fear

    pikachu will have to triumph over nature

    it’s like a jack london novel really

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. Anyway, off topic, in addition to the four other ways I observed or am, based on evidence, common sense, and intuition, quite convinced Lester Hold corruptly colluded with Hillary Clinton, there is likely a fifth that I didn’t even notice.

    Holt wore an earpiece, against the Debate Commission rules.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  53. Here is the format for a Bob23 comment:

    1. Make up things about wild tirades by the site owner, and the site owner being “junior” at his workplace, and other complete fantasies and utterly fabricated horseshit.

    2. Generously grant permission to the site owner to post what he likes on his own site.

    3. End with “All the best, Bob”

    Patterico (bcf524)

  54. It is a shame not to do anything in one’s power to stop the corrupt Hillary Clinton from gaining office at this critical time in history.

    It’s not any more critical than any other time. Every four years we get the same handwringing from the same people about how THIS TIME it is the most important election in history. It’s crap, especially this year with so little to distinguish the two leftist candidates. This is far and away the least important general election of my lifetime — although the primary was the most important.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  55. My apologies. Wrong link. Here’s the link to Lester Holt using an earpiece at the debate. Seriously, what could possibly have been his reasoning? The other ways he cheated worked. This one could backfire.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  56. The only person in Holt’s ear will be the commission’s longtime executive producer, Marty Slutsky, who has produced all of the debates since 2000.

    srsly?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  57. And I do know about you personally, but I choose not to jump into the fray.

    OK. You’re banned until you tell me how you know about me personally. Because that’s freaking creepy. Send me an email detailing how you know about me personally. Until I receive that email, you’re gone.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  58. It’s not any more critical than any other time.

    No, it is. Europe is falling to Islam with resulting rise in far-right policies. As Mark Steyn points out, correctly, demographics is destiny. The effects of the 1965 Immigration Act are beginning to likewise affect America, up to and including the rise of the far right you detest, but also lots of terrorism and whatnot.

    As Ann Coulter says, and she’s right, the immigrants the left prefers vote overwhelmingly for the Democrat Party, which is increasingly corrupt, treasonous, and radical.

    This IS a more critical moment than the norm, by far. It’s now or never.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  59. *far-right parties

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  60. It’s not any more critical than any other time.

    the situation with the disposition of our sleazy ivy league trash infested supreme court belies this assertion it just does

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. @61 ‘And I do know about you personally, but I choose not to jump into the fray’.

    Pull the ripcord, dude– you’re closer than you think.

    “Bail out, Joe. Bail out!” – Twelve O’clock High, 1949

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. oh my goodness them hedgies is on fire

    Well this is a little awkward. With the leaked 1995 Trump tax returns ‘scandal’ focused on the billionaire’s yuuge “net operating loss” and how it might have ‘legally’ enabled him to pay no taxes for years, we now discover none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton utilized a $700,000 “loss” to avoid paying some taxes in 2015.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. I think each election does become the most important of our lifetime, simply because we continue to incrementally move down the wrong path.
    So in 2008 it was true, as it was in 2012, and now in 2016.
    If illary wins next month, the 2020 election will become the most important.
    Ultimately, however, there may be a tipping point when it could become next to impossible to thwart the Left at the ballot box in a presidential election due to the increased number of voters who take a check from the government, as well as due to the floodgates of immigrants who tend to become Democrat voters.

    Also, we can’t foresee events that might occur during the next 4 years.
    That’s why I entirely reject the notion that we can just concede the next 4 years to the perceived status quo administration of illary.
    There’ve been too many times in history when we “slept.”
    That’s how 9/11 came to fruition; we (that’s the Royal ‘we’) let down our guard following the devolution of the Soviet Union.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  64. What Cruz Supporter said, in its entirety.

    Which also wholly undercuts Patterico’s position.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  65. Patterico, this is what I have been saying for some time.

    There are folks who disagree politely.

    Then there those who crap all over your floor at your party and claim it’s not your party.

    Toss out whomever you please. You created the site.

    Simon Jester (485863)

  66. Adulterer Trump paraded his mistress in front of his wife.
    Adulterer Giuliani paraded* his mistress in front of his wife.
    They accuse Hillary of adultery.
    Baselessly and basely accusing someone else of what they’re provably guilty of.
    A consistent Trump(kin) tactic.
    New York values.

    *Literally, in a New York City parade.

    nk (dbc370)

  67. @60- It’s not any more critical than any other time. Every four years we get the same handwringing from the same people about how THIS TIME it is the most important election in history…

    Welcome to middle age.

    Wait ’til you break 60 and it sounds even more lame. Which is why all you can really do is laugh about this entire farce. Like you said on another post- ‘the country is going to crap.’ Just bring a long your USA Today— or a good magazine– and when you’re done, be sure to wash your hands in the can while you can.

    Next election cycle, the next ‘important’ one in history- soap may be rationed, there may not be running water or clean towels!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. Toss out whomever you please. You created the site.

    Someone who insinuates that he knows something about me personally is giving me a full explanation or is gone yesterday.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  69. Like you said on another post- ‘the country is going to crap.’

    Yeah, I said that in direct response to your justification of lies as entertainment.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  70. @59- An assist for Patterico:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rF4s4hAow

    “Don’t call me Junior!”– ‘Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade,’ 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  71. Yeah, not finding the full quote. All I can find is this:

    But on Saturday, Trump told thousands of supporters that Clinton’s handling of classified emails and destroying of 33,000 emails that she had deemed of a personal nature meant that “she should be in prison, let me tell you.”

    Trump did not stop there. He said he did not believe Clinton would be loyal to her supporters and chuckled, “I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, to tell you the truth. And why should she be, right? Why should she be?”

    So, was he accusing her of sexual infidelity to thousands of people when he said “not loyal to her supporters”?

    File this one with Trump’s calling for Hillary to be ASSASSINATED and calling for foreign governments to HACK HIS OPPONENT

    #NeverTrump gotta #NeverTrump.

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  72. Pretty dismayed to see Patterico taking cues from the Dog Trainer, but #NeverTrump.

    Arguing that Clinton is a corrupt politician who belongs in prison, Trump said she shows loyalty to nobody but herself and her donors.

    “I don’t think she’s even loyal to Bill, to tell you the truth,” Trump said. Alluding to former President Bill Clinton’s extramarital affairs, he added: “And really, folks, really — why should she be?”

    See that, where they mad it up out of whole cloth and put it inside a quote where there was no space for it?

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  73. Anyway the official #NeverTrump position now seems to be that loyalty is only sexual loyalty, so Trump was accusing Hillary of cheating on literally millions of people when she said Hillary was only loyal to her donors and not her supporters.

    Or #NeverTrump has to pretend the previous sentence to the out-of-context quote doesn’t exist, even though you can dig it up if you look.

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  74. good work Mr. Hanna

    happyfeet (be47b7)

  75. Tapper and others keep talking about paying ones “fair share” in taxes.
    Fair share is determined by tax code. If a return follows tax code and the law, the end result should be the amount that is fair.
    Trump’s return showing the yuuuuuuuge loss was probably flagged for audit as soon as it was opened.
    There is no way the IRS just accepts your word for it that you have a loss of almost a billion dollars, so I’m guessing that if the loss amount went unchanged after audit (and it may have changed, because god knows the IRS put its best people on it and tried), if it went unchanged, then the amount was fair, and then the amounts paid or not paid in subsequent years were also fair.

    If after audit the amount was adjusted to a lesser loss, that wouldn’t mean Trump cheated, it just would mean that there had been a difference of opinion and after all the codes were hashed through, the IRS’ view had prevailed. Cheating and lying on taxes is not “avoiding” tax it is evading tax. Avoiding taxes is what everyone does whether they realize it or not… lets say Tapper takes a wardrobe deduction, or he itemizes charitable donations, he declares his children as dependents, he is avoiding taxes. Evading taxes is a crime that the feds prosecute relentlessly, and since it has been 20 years, we’d have seen this go to court.

    Here is a recent case of a local billionaire that got dinged for evading: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/ty-warner-beanie-babies-tax-evasion/index.html

    steveg (5508fb)

  76. I may be wrong, Patterico, I didn’t read you 13 years ago, only started about 8 years ago. But I had the impression that you started blogging because you couldn’t stand the drive-by distortions featured in the L. A. Times.

    But now what I see you doing is jumping right on to repeat them as soon as they come out.

    Trump’s statement was in the context of political loyalty. It is only the Clintons’ public marital history that gives it the ambiguity, which may well have been intended (but I suspect Trump was winging it as usual). That much of the full quote at least is available, to show that context, but the media has distorted it into an unambiguous statement about marital loyalty, which it was not, and the L. A. Times in a particularly egregious way.

    In your effort to keep true to your principles by opposing Trump, you may be losing sight of some of your other principles.

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  77. @58 Denver Guy

    It was probably just a monitor. He is a bass player after all.

    Right?

    Pinandpuller (5432cc)

  78. @61 Bob23

    But you did jump into the Frey.

    Pinandpuller (5432cc)

  79. Chicago values –
    in moderation

    mg (31009b)

  80. @77– Yeah, I said that in direct response to your justification of lies as entertainment.

    They are. You posted an example yourself just today on your own blog: ‘Saturday Night Live.’

    And when SNL’s Amy Poehler and Tina Fey did a skit some years back using the actual, true transcript of an interview with Sarah Palin, it was devastatingly entertaining, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  81. It’s to get Hillary cheating searched and her intimate connection with Huma uncovered.

    Dirty pool, but Hillary went there with her false attacks about Miss Universe.

    NJRob (298290)

  82. Larry Nichols is a nut who once claimed to have been a hit man (he now says that was just the pain meds talking) but he was right about Bill Clinton using the resources of his office as Governor of Arkansas to conduct affairs with several women, including Gennifer Flowers.

    Clinton told Nichols there was no way, because he was sterile. Nichols says he then asked “what about Chelsea?”

    Nichols has always maintained that Hillary had affairs with both Webb Hubbell and Vince Foster while she was working with them at Rose Law Firm.

    So, he is a nut, but he was right about Bill’s affairs, so maybe he’s right about hers

    steveg (5508fb)

  83. I deleted a sentence. Sorry

    Larry Nichols is a nut who once claimed to have been a hit man (he now says that was just the pain meds talking) but he was right about Bill Clinton using the resources of his office as Governor of Arkansas to conduct affairs with several women, including Gennifer Flowers.

    Evidently a woman was claiming Bill had gotten her pregnant, but
    Clinton told Nichols there was no way, because he was sterile. Nichols says he then asked “what about Chelsea?”
    Nichols has always maintained that Hillary had affairs with both Webb Hubbell and Vince Foster while she was working with them at Rose Law Firm.
    So, he is a nut, but he was right about Bill’s affairs, so maybe he’s right about hers

    steveg (5508fb)

  84. If you guys see any references to a “Bob23″ in the comments, ignore them. He just received this site’s equivalent of the death penalty. Every comment he ever left on this site was deleted a few moments ago.

    It was easy. The negligible time to delete those comments in bulk is surely a tiny fraction of the time it took him to write those comments.

    In case you were wondering what earned him the death penalty, it was his decision to quote from a judge’s summary of a plaintiff’s allegations from a frivolous lawsuit against me — a lawsuit so frivolous that it has been dismissed without my paying a penny or retracting a word.

    So you see, for his veneer of politeness, Bob23 is, and has always been, a very nasty and dishonest guy. And with that said, he is now but a memory that will quickly fade.

    I’ve forgotten him already.

    Patterico (aa3be1)

  85. Trump’s statement was in the context of political loyalty. It is only the Clintons’ public marital history that gives it the ambiguity, which may well have been intended (but I suspect Trump was winging it as usual). That much of the full quote at least is available, to show that context, but the media has distorted it into an unambiguous statement about marital loyalty, which it was not, and the L. A. Times in a particularly egregious way.

    In your effort to keep true to your principles by opposing Trump, you may be losing sight of some of your other principles.

    I have read the context. I believe your interpretation is spin. It’s clear what he meant and clear that it was taken in exactly that way by the crowd. It was a wink and a nod and a clear reference to marital infidelity.

    Patterico (aa3be1)

  86. actually it was based on an edited transcript, by the ignorant debutante from south darby,

    https://twitter.com/cerenomri/status/782673719667855360

    you’re still in i spy territory, man of mystery,

    narciso (d1f714)

  87. in the ironic category,

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/22/business/fi-ct-saban22

    that’s the head of univision, red queen supporter ‘whose also a client,

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. Note that Giuliani did not offer that ridiculous context argument, Gabriel — because nobody took it as anything but an accusation of marital infidelity.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  89. @88– It’s clear what he meant and clear that it was taken in exactly that way by the crowd.

    Nice try.

    What he meant is what he said. That’s clear from the text, context and the video. How the crowd interpreted it is on them, but impossible to get in the minds of the masses, is it. Or is it.

    You can’t have it both ways- holding him to his words to the letter in one setting then applying implication in the next. Well, I guess you can. It’s election season.

    _______

    @87- Winston at work.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmY_bniRT2U

    The Ministry of Truth. Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)

    ‘The Uncola.’ 7-Up ad, (1976)

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. “Someone who insinuates that he knows something about me personally is giving me a full explanation or is gone yesterday.”

    – Patterico

    Trump’s candidacy has blessed this site with a passel of drive-by cowards who think they can squash disagreements by trying to influence the offline lives of others.

    Of course, living in their mothers’ basements, they forget that real social capital is built in the real world, with real people.

    Leviticus (9d0fa2)

  91. we understand that in the people’s republic of california, a nazgul who should still be in prison, sends his flying monkeys to attack law enforcement, and we understand who supports,

    narciso (d1f714)

  92. Trump’s probably been talking to Roger Stone again.

    crazy (d3b449)

  93. @93. Of course, living in their mothers’ basements, they forget that real social capital is built in the real world, with real people.

    Pfffft.

    “Just a little hard times. Everything’s jake now.” – ‘The Sting,’ 1973.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  94. Tapper acted all morally outraged about Trump’s remark about Hillary’s fidelity. But he is NOT concerned with Hillary’s horrible and vile attacks on both Bill Clinton’s lovers and his sexual assault victims. Even though she had been informed by Bill’s attorneys that he had been having an affair with Gennifer Flowers for years, she STILL went on national television with bill and attacked Flowers as a liar and a “failed cabaret singer” who only wanted money and her face on the cover of magazines. It makes me ill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOhUei6aTM

    To see Tapper act all high and mighty and morally outraged today was sickening. He should remember that the women attacked by Bill Cosby were ignored for years. For the love of God, will anyone in the mainstream media take these women under their wings and go to bat for them?

    Victoria (ca7a2a)

  95. Tapper can run down an entire state, mine, if it achieves his goal, maybe he’s shown some occasional random acts of journalism, but in the end, it’s right out of the god of copybook headings,

    narciso (d1f714)

  96. Well, when you look at pictures of Chelsea Clinton and Webster Hubbell side by side, it does make you wonder about who Chelsea’s real daddy is.

    tom (1e059e)

  97. I don’t, she has red queen’s rather gaunt features, she was born into a crime family like the corleones, or whatever clan is in that series gomorrah,

    narciso (d1f714)

  98. Hey, since this half-quote stripped of its context comes from a Trump rally…

    Whatever happened to all those uncritically-reported stories of Trump supporters engaging in violence? Seem to have stopped, haven’t they, ever since it came out that the vast majority of violence was being committed against Trump supporters.

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  99. Did all the Trump supporters get sweet and reasonable? Are they being tranquilized?

    Gabriel Hanna (bc876a)

  100. yes, what preceded that passage, a little dowdifying, ala gibson and couric,?

    narciso (d1f714)

  101. All taht Donald trump said was, that it as opinion, that she had cheated on her husband. That kind of story has bene around for years, spread probably by Bill Clinton’s aides.

    Usually it is Vincent Foster she had an affair with or maybe could be Webster Hubbell (paertners at the Rose Law Firm), or she’s a lesbian,, and in recent versions, it’s Huma Abedin she’s in a lesbian relationship with. I don’t believe any of it, but what’s so strange about Donald Trump saying he thinks it is true. He’s not making anything up. In this case, he may actually believe it.

    He didn’t even get specific, but just endorsed the general idea.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  102. * it is his opinion.

    This doesn’t come from no place.

    I think these rumors are deliberately spread, and actually, she’s extremely loyal to Bill.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)


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