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Shaky Hillary Reappears in Debate: “WHOO! OKAY!”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:04 pm

I’m not saying that Hillary Clinton put her neurological problems on full display in tonight’s debate.

I’m not saying that at all.

All I’m saying is this: for someone who has engaged in some weird episodes of shaking, including oddly staggering after a 9/11 memorial service — and for someone whose neurological health has been questioned by an ABC News reporter — it does not show excellent judgment for her to go into one of her odd shaking episodes on nationwide television with millions upon millions of voters watching.

That’s all I’m saying.


[Cross-posted at RedState.]

56 Responses to “Shaky Hillary Reappears in Debate: “WHOO! OKAY!””

  1. The fella who put this clip together suggests a remix to the tune of “Copacabana.”

    I think he’s working on it.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. Woop! There it is.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  3. It’s pretty scary. “The West Wing” in real life? I have trouble watching either of these dumpster fires. But there have been a lot of weird bits with HRC on camera…and she has been in the public eye for decades, and should know better.

    Unless she can’t help it.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  4. Whew! It took me five minutes to figure out how to stop it. It’s not as easy to disable autoplay on Chrome as it was in Firefox.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Vines are autoplay by definition. I don’t usually embed autoplay videos on my site, but I’ll make an exception for an excellent Vine like this (especially since the audio is disabled by default).

    Patterico (bcf524)

  6. i hate her

    i just want her out of my life

    i been waiting so long

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. In Firefox, you could go into about:config and disable them all for good. Here I right-clicked on the image, left-clicked Show Controls, and left-clicked on the image again to pause it.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Perhaps she was peeing down her leg.

    mg (31009b)

  9. Shaky Hillary to the tune of Copacabana:

    Patterico (bcf524)

  10. it’s a coffee-stained earth every time it happens

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. I’ll repeat what I told a friend and a commenter here just now: I don’t like making fun of it because that stuff runs in my family and I’ll probably end up with it, but either a) she has a problem or b) she doesn’t but it’s a tic, in which case it’s a weird one and she needs to get a grip.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  12. why if she fool enough people, she can crawl in, and kaine is even worse can take the prize,

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. That is hilarious. She jiggles like a balloon or something.

    If you just managed to cut the debate to only Hillary talking it would be a fantastic ad for Trump. Trump failed to understand that and talked over everybody the whole time because everything is about him.

    Of course Hillary has some severe medical issues. She is probably overjoyed she made it 90 minutes and is undergoing some heroic recuperation tonight. If she had to face a 9/11 type of event she would have to do it from bed and via intermediaries. I guess that’s a bad thing.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  14. I missed the debate. Did she just recognize Gennifer Flowers in the front row?

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  15. Gee, Patterico, maybe she was just draining her tanks, filling that astronaut diaper.

    Catch her staggering to the SUV after avoiding the spin room. Oh sure, we know— she had pumps on– not flats… o.O.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  16. Must be jelly cuz epileptics doan shake like dat.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  17. I despise her politics and her corruption. That said, I say she does not look sick in that clip. She had a bit of the cross-eye tonite, but that’s all I could see.

    gp (0c542c)

  18. Maybe she had an orgasm.

    The press should ask Huma.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  19. Malfunctioning butt plug is always a possibility.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  20. I really think you guys are barking up the wrong tree with this one. Sure, she has some slightly unusual mannerisms, but, aside from that episode at ground zero, it doesn’t look like anything serious to me.

    What it does look like to me, and I think it pretty clearly is, is the uncanny valley effect.

    Arizona CJ (b4cd1f)

  21. trump wins debate call out hillary on tpp. on line polls say trump wins media poop heads claim hillary won. clinton news network poll only poll say hillary wins and even they admit it has too many democrats in it.

    clinton lost! (e671cf)

  22. What I noticed early on was that she seemed to be blinking a lot–and oddly slowly. If she did that before, I never noticed it.

    M. Scott Eiland (046eb0)

  23. There’s something wrong with this woman.

    Watch the post-debate actions of hers– after it is over and she does her handshaking with audience members– she is looking down with a stagger and Bubba has to literally reach out and help her step up a simple step– he wraps his arm around her — not an affectionate wrap– but clearly a ‘lets keep you steady’ and he and literally whisks her off the stage into the wings. No spin room visits– then an unsteady hands off walk to the SUV… not even a hand hold from him… and away.

    These idiot spinners are so busy chattering they miss what’s happening in front of her.

    There’s something definitely off with her.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. Looks to me like she’s doing her little superior dance, she’s so pleased with herself she’s gotta dance.

    Jerryskids (16a4d5)

  25. I cannot believe she did that shoulder shake thing. So gross.

    MayBee (a7822d)

  26. When the acid comes on, it is a thrill. I Wonder what she took?

    gbear (70736b)

  27. She looks ridiculous, but remember she was trying not to laugh. Hillary has that cackle and that was one of the things she has surely been practicing avoiding. That cackle, coughing, the shrill preachy yell, etc.

    And Trump had just said this. The crowd was actively laughing in Trump’s face and Hillary had just realized she won the debate. This is the happiest we’ve ever seen Hillary Clinton. She just beat the bastard who spent the week trying to taunt her with her cheating husband’s mistress. She must have been bursting to let out a cackle. Instead she did a weird giggle, but you can bet she was cackling in her limo.

    I love the irony of an insecure troll telling us he’s the winner because of his temperament when his temperament is causing him to lose. Of course the entire attack on Hillary’s temperament was purely reactive and defensive and had nothing to do with Hillary in any way.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  28. Watched a few minutes as daughter needed to for school.
    While the above looks a little odd, it doesn’t suggest any medical disorder, but I am not a neurologist.

    I’m guessing that there is a lot of confirmation bias on the idea of who won. Clinton has had a lot of practice over the years with lying and talking and saying nothing but appearing reasonable to onlookers with no grasp of the topics being discussed.

    I think the situation with her and the Dems is so bad that most people can’t believe it, so they don’t,
    and many can’t get over the idea that a reality show star is a major candidate for president.

    I think most people will say that the candidate that they already dislike the most lost.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  29. not a single question about the creeper clowns laying siege to our towns

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. I’m not too worried. I qualify for residence in 27 European countries. (Technically 28 until Brexit, but if I wanted to live on a cold dirty little island in the North Atlantic I’d move to Manhattan).

    nk (dbc370)

  31. Actually no she’s a screaming banshee by nature.

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. Consider her 2003 performance when pressed about Iraq and her recent appearance before the liuna.

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. A doctor called up Sean Hannity yesterday before 6 pm EDT and claimed she had myasthenia gravis, but not, he said Parkison’s disease or seizures. But he attributed the fall on Sept. 11 to something else, fainting, without settling on any kind of cause for the fainting. And it doesn’t look like fainting, but just no muscle strength in her legs at all, so when the people assisting her let go, to let her get into the car, she dropped. She had been mostly all right standing, but walking requires double the energy of standing.

    Myasthenia gravis usually affects the muscles in the face, lips, tongue, throat and neck. It is paralysis, which comes and goes a littler bit, if I understand this right, without loss of sensation or visible atrophy and gets worse with time. It could affect actually any place in the body. Its cause is not exactly clear, but it is believed to be an auto-immune disease, probably targeting acetylcholine receptors. But something a bit different – a weakness in cardiac muscle or skeletal muscle – is also called myasthenia gravis.

    He said the antibiotic she intially took – Levoquin or something like that – is counterindicated for myasthenia gravis and can make the condition worse.

    This doctor linked the neck weakness and eye motion limitations to myasthenia gravis. But that usually hits younger women, and by her age it also hits men, and the eye muscle problems are a special variation existing in isolation.

    It’s probably still the wrong diagnosis.

    I was shooting for post-polio syndrome. But that’s probably too much of a zebra. It doesn’t seem to fit completely. But maybe I don’t enough and it does fit.

    There’s always Epstein-Barr virus. This should one of those diagnosis cases they put, or used to put, in the New York Times magazine.If the Clintons want an answer to this, they really need to crowd source the diagnosis. Of course maybe they already know, from an unofficial doctor, and are hiding it from the general public, most of her staff, and her official doctor, Dr. Lisa Bardack. (sp?)

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  34. she’s disgusting

    Mr. Trump was so gracious to her but she was just a nasty pooper. And all of us were so nice to watch even though they didn’t get asked about any real issues just gay-assed lester crowley issues.

    NBC should focus on cooking segments and such for example how easy it is to do rosemary garlic roasted almonds. You just slow roast them over night! (at 180 or so)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. Well when you put the visual evidence that way it appears that she has a problem.

    Skeptical Voter (1d5c8b)

  36. YOUNGSTOWN, Pa. — Ken Reed sat down at the main bar of the Tin Lizzy tavern with two things in mind: to dig into the tavern’s oversize cheese steak, and watch the presidential debate.

    “I am hungry and undecided, in that order,” he said, digging into the savory dish in a bar that dates back to 1746.

    Kady Letoksy, a paralegal by day, a waitress and bartender at night at the Tin Lizzy, sat beside him. At 28, she has never voted before, and she is now thinking it might be a good idea to start.

    Letosky entered the evening undecided in a town that is heavily Democratic in registration. Her sister and father are on opposite sides of the political aisle. Donald “Trump had the upper hand this evening,” she said, citing his command of the back-and-forth between him and Hillary Clinton.

    Reed, 35, is a registered Democrat and small businessman. “By the end of the debate, Clinton never said a thing to persuade me that she had anything to offer me or my family or my community,” he said, sitting at the same bar that has boasted local icons as regulars, such as the late Fred Rogers, and Arnold Palmer, who had his own stash of PM Whiskey hidden behind newer bottles of whiskey for his regular visits.

    “Have to say Trump had the edge this evening, he came out swinging but also talked about specifics on jobs and the economy,” Reed said.

    Modal Trigger
    The presidential debate plays on the television at the Tin Lizzy.Photo: Justin Merriman
    Reed said Clinton came across as either smug or as though she was reading her résumé, adding there was nothing on her résumé that touched on his life. “I am a small businessman, a farmer, come from a long line of farmers and coal miners. The policies she talked about tonight ultimately either hurt me or ignore me,” he said.

    How apropos for this presidential election that these patrons chose the Tin Lizzy — a 270-year-old tavern in this small Westmoreland County town — as the place to watch the historic debate between Clinton and Trump.

    The tavern’s namesake is the Model T, the first affordable automobile available to America’s working class, which eventually became slang for something quite different.

    If someone said you were “going the way of the Tin Lizzy,” it meant your job or industry was in decline, no longer useful.

    That is how today’s cosmopolitan and political classes view Main Street voters — as people whose values, traditions, skills, jobs and lives are being replaced by something new.

    “I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.

    It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.

    DNF (ffe548)

  37. 26. Purple microdot.

    DNF (ffe548)

  38. What does it say about your candidate when the best thing post debate you can say is “she didn’t fall down!”

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  39. Who knows what kind of body bracing she has strapped on underneath her ‘Wonder Woman’ costumes. Every women I’ve ever seen shimmy or shake like that usually has her ‘girls’ sway a bit.

    But not this broad. They’re strapped down like the crew of Gemini 7 before launch.

    Something is wrong with her. What it may be is less important than the fact they’re hiding it from the country.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  40. Malfunctioning butt plug cattle prod is always a possibility.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528) — 9/26/2016 @ 9:58 pm

    Bill H (971e5f)

  41. It’s jst one little moment. That could be caused by restraining herself from moving. She had a little energy because she needed to say things and couldn’t step to a side for a second because she was standing on narrow platform, eight inches above the floor. The side to side motion she wanted to do got transferred to an up and down movement.

    Nobody ever really stands still while standing.

    Also, she’s concentrating on smiling/

    This was after Donald trump tried to say his temperament, was maybe his strongest asset, maybe by far, because he had a “winning temperament.”

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  42. I just got done watching the entire debate (we were out last night), and when this moment took place Trump had just finished one of his long-winded, nonsensical answers—which increased in frequency throughout the debate—and as she did previously she just turned to the crowd and played off of Trump’s ramblings with a quick reaction and it drew laughs from the crowd. Not laughs directed at Hillary for being a buffoon, which she is, but laughs at Donald. Crowder made an excellent point in his post debate commentary, when in a debate if your opponent can simply answer your long-winded rambling by turning to the audience and stating, “well, there you have it folks,” and have the audience laugh it’s not a good night for you.

    Sean (1d5074)

  43. I have never viscerally disliked her; I just thought she was a nothing burger. After watching that smug smirk all night, I can’t stand the sight of her.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  44. “I’ve spent my life fighting for children and I’m not stopping now.”– Maudie.

    “You killed my child.”– Patricia Smith, mother, Benghazi victim.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. you’re impressed by the peanut gallery at hofstra, how nice what they hold as true is so far from reality, they have a mechanism to prevent crimethink,

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. Way, way O/T.

    U.S. Special Operations Command has privately pressed the staff of the nation’s highest-ranking military officer to include in his upcoming National Military Strategy a discussion of the Sunni Muslim ideology underpinning the brutality of the Islamic State group and al Qaeda.

    Thus, behind the scenes, the Pentagon’s top brass have entered a debate coursing through the presidential campaign: how to define an enemy the U.S. military has been fighting for 15 years.

    I’m pleased as punch to hear the military isn’t obeying Obama’s edict that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and terrorist groups like ISIS.

    Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)

    Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2977
    In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 186
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book52, Hadith 220
    (deprecated numbering scheme)

    Gee, I wonder where Muhammad got the idea that he was supposed to terrorize his (and Allah’s) enemies?

    Why, Allah of course.

    Surah 8:12 Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)

    [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

    This isn’t the only place in the Quran where Allah commands Muslims to strike people’s necks and cut off their fingertips. It’s why Michael Adebolajo and his accomplices did exactly that after they ran over Drummer Rigby in London. They were carrying out Allah’s commands to the letter. And they are commands, and there is no reinterpreting Allah’s words in Islam, if you don’t like what they appear to mean. That would be to say you know better than Allah. That is called “innovation,” which is a grave sin.

    You see, Muslims are supposed to be the means of punishing Allah’s enemies, the unbelievers (and this includes the hypocrites, those who say they are Muslims but don’t do as Allah commands, which is why the Islamic State kills a lot of people Obama would have you think are good Muslims but IS or, say, Saudi Arabia would say are not), on Earth. Allah will punish them after death.

    Surah 9:14 At-Tawbah (The Repentance)

    Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people

    Surah 9:74 At-Tawbah (The Repentance)

    They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.

    I just wish the Washington Times didn’t blow their cover. In Tiger Beat’s military it’s a firing offense to read and understand the Muslim terrorist’s playbook. We’ve had it all along. They’ve been using it for 1200 years (not 1400, the “official” version of early Islamic history is entirely BS when you look at the archaeological, numismatic, and documentary evidence, including the Quran itself, but it’s still important to know because Muslims believe it’s true). Obama is ideologically committed to the idea it’s better to have dead Americans than to tell the truth about what Islam teaches.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  47. While the above looks a little odd, it doesn’t suggest any medical disorder, but I am not a neurologist…

    MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/27/2016 @ 5:04 am

    What do you think of the this though. The top video is a photoshoped prank. But second isn’t. It’s a recent video of Hillary!’s eyes pointing in different direction. As a laymand I’d say that’s more than just a little odd.

    Also, do you have a second opinion of Dr. Noel’s read of the letter from Hillary! personal physician?

    Hillary’s 9/11 Health Letter

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  48. The strabismus is a sign that can’t be laughed off as regular fatigue or personal oddness.
    There is something the matter, I just don’t know what. I do know we are unlikely to get any acknowledgement, let alone explanation, of why it’s happening, from her that is truthful.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  49. The shaking took place right at thiis point, when Donald trump had said something that nodboy ahs explained (although Stephen Colbert made a little fun of it maybe)

    I assumed it has soemthing to do with something but it;’s completely incomrensible.

    Maybe Hillay was a bit nervous about that.

    TRUMP: Well, I have much better judgment than she does. There’s no question about that. I also have a much better temperament than she has, you know?


    I have a much better — she spent — let me tell you — she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising — you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names — oh, temperament, let’s go after — I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not have a…

    HOLT: Secretary Clinton?

    TRUMP: Wait. The AFL-CIO the other day, behind the blue screen, I don’t know who you were talking to, Secretary Clinton, but you were totally out of control. I said, there’s a person with a temperament that’s got a problem.

    HOLT: Secretary Clinton?

    CLINTON: Whew, OK.


    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  50. According to Hope Hicks, via teh Puffington Host.,this is what it was

    Speaking to union gatehring: “Why aren’t I 50 points ahead of Trump?”

    What the blue screen?

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  51. Appearing via video at Laborers International.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  52. The strabismus is a sign that can’t be laughed off as regular fatigue or personal oddness.

    There is something the matter, I just don’t know what. I do know we are unlikely to get any acknowledgement, let alone explanation, of why it’s happening, from her that is truthful.

    SarahW (3164f0) — 9/28/2016 @ 9:54 am

    That could be explained as a lingering symptom from her last fall. But what causes all he falling. She keeps falling down and seriously injuring herself. Breaking her elbow (so badly she required emergency surgery), severe concussion, blood clots on the brain. That’s another thing that’s odd. She apparently has no instinct or no ability to try to protect herself from injury, as we saw on 9/11. She clearly would have fallen at the 9/11 commemoration had someone not been there to hold her up, and the way she had clearly become so rigid she would have probably broken her skull on the pavement. She apparently needs a lot of support when she walks; I constantly see she her holding someone’s arm.

    It’s funny how the LHMFM demands to see the actual health records, not a letter from a doctor, when it’s an older white Republican. The LHMFM demanded to see McCain’s actual records. I recall Reagan went to Bethesda once and had a colonoscopy. The LHMFM wanted to see the actual colonoscopy; they weren’t happy with the doctor just giving him a clean bill of health. They literally wanted to crawl up the man’s @$$.

    Then it was a matter of national security. Now, 68 y.o. Hillary Clinton’s age and health is not big deal, and only a rabid partisan would want to see more than a letter from her doctor. Even though we can see there’s clearly something wrong with her.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  53. because they never cared, only with reagan and maverick, he revealed himself to be a feckless wombat for other reasons,

    narciso (d1f714)

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