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9/26/2016

Debate Prep: Big Media Seems to Think Trump Lies

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:18 am



The consensus of Big Media appears to be that Donald Trump is a liar. And they’re not scared to say so. (Screenshots courtesy of Katherine Miller.)

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hillary-tasks

It would be nice if she stopped lying too.

There’s something of a controversy as to whether Lester Holt should be fact-checking the candidates in real time. The answer is no. Let the candidates fact-check each other and let it all shake out afterwards. I understand the temptation, with two utterly dishonest people on the stage, to see them put straight right away. But Holt comes from NBC, the same network that gave us the screenshots above. Do you trust him to get it 100% right on the spot?

Me neither.

124 Responses to “Debate Prep: Big Media Seems to Think Trump Lies”

  1. The first question for Clinton ought to be “Why have you only held one press conference in the past 9 months [or whatever the timeframe is]?”

    Leviticus (efada1)

  2. Or “when did you stop beating your husband… or were those seizures?”

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  3. Candy Crowley should be appointed official media fact checker.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  4. Deutsche Bank shares crashing and Turkey debt downgraded to junk.

    Unexpectedly!

    DNF (ffe548)

  5. I don’t think the media understands that the appearance of unfairness will just stir up more support for Trump. Those two screenshots are awful. After all, HRC definitely lied repeatedly over the Comey business. But the media suddenly tapdances.

    Anyway, we live in a world where we think we are all smart and good….which means people who disagree with us must be dumb and bad.

    Everyone does it these days.

    And everyone forgets that all it does is inflame the other side more.

    One thing is for sure: Trump knows TV. Clinton does not.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  6. As we go about our day hundreds of “news media” people are brushing up on how to say: “Obviously Hillary won the debate” which will precipitously begin .09 seconds after it ends. The news type already set “Hillary Victorious” as tomorrows headlines with the sub line “Trump to rediscover himself” as Hollywood, the media, academia an the entire leftist juggernaut works to get illegals and felons registered and has their operatives begin mass mailing of “absentee” and “early” ballots. I don’t believe any Philly precincts will go 105% for Hillary like they did Obama but a simple 101% will have to do.

    As the once slow plodding advance of leftist extremism advances ever more quickly Trump too will fade. Go and tell your grandchildren to seek government jobs. That is their future. Diversify, immigrate, assimilate then eliminate.

    I ask one question. With a U-6 of 15.7% exactly how many immigrants do we need?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  7. I think moveon, etc., will be live tweeting and other social media starting about 30 seconds after it begins about how wonderful and true everything Clinton says is true and what a lying idiot Trump is.

    Everything is a disinformation campaign until proven otherwise.
    Not cynicism, observation.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  8. Question #1:

    Ms. Clinton, you’ve had to deal with a lot of stress and unfair attacks by Republicans this campaign, how have you handled it so well?

    Mr. Trump, we unsealed your divorce documents even though the court refused to do so and it says you’re a rapist. How do you respond?

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  9. How come one screenshot is Central Time, and the next one, one minute later, is Eastern Time? It sounds like they weren’t captured by the same person.

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  10. Anyway, these are not the main tasks, and the list here shows bias, because it basically says that Hillary Clinton is all right.

    Hillary Clinton’s main task is to trip up Donald Trump on facts about the world, and on morality and ethics, and disqualify himself as president in the eyes of many people. And Donald Trump’s main task is to seem like a plausible president.

    Hillary Clinton’s task also is to avoid getting tripped up on facts about herself and her activities and her record, if she should get asked; and Donald Trump’s task is to ask her questions, or make statements about her record or future, that don’t have good answers. I said DON’T have good answersm and if she doesn’t answer the criticisms, point it out.

    Neither of them has the task of avoiding lying. They have the task of avoiding getting caught in a lie, or in an important error of fact.

    Hillary Clinton wants the moderator, Lester Holt, to proclaim stuff Trump says as lies or wrong, (and you must understand that it doesn’t matter to them whether Lester is correct or not, what counts is the number of times he corrects him and how great a percentage of the audience what he says is over head of.)

    And they want him NOT to point hers out because they allegedly aren’t as important or as frequent or as blatant.

    Both of their policy proposals and promises as to what they would do as president contain important lies and unlikelihoods or impossibilities or things that in reality contradict each other, or that won’t work.

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  11. @11– Every few seconds they adjust the clock for time zones, Sammy.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/26/2016 @ 8:01 am

    With a U-6 of 15.7% exactly how many immigrants do we need? Immigrants reduce the unemployment rate.

    This works in fact, although, as Marxist economists daid the question is: How does it workin theory?

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  13. 13. That doesn’t make any sense. It’s not like these screen captures were taken aboard an airplane, or a fast nmoving train. Who or waht keeps changing teh time.

    Different satellite pictures maybe?

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  14. Have you never watched national news? They change the clock’s time zone every few minutes.

    Edoc118 (006bea)

  15. The consensus of Big Media appears to be that Donald Trump is a liar. And they’re not scared to say so.

    =yawn= So watch C-SPAN.

    After all, this isn’t a ‘debate.’ It’s television.

    It’s not the moderator’s job to fact-check the contestants but to play time keeper and keep the show moving.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  16. @15– It makes perfect sense. Watch it change. It’s an animated clock that changes for time zones and in business hours is punctuated with stock market numbers.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. The current BLS U-6 percentage is 9.7%, in August 2007 it was 8.4%. The Gallup Good Jobs is a better reflection of public sentiment regarding employment.

    Rick Ballard (102f97)

  18. Once again, as it does every day, the Los Angeles Times proves that it is not a serious newspaper.

    Skeptical Voter (1d5c8b)

  19. Bill “The Bloviator” O’Reilly claims Fester Dolt is a “fair guy”. It was left up to Trump to remind the audience that there’s no doubt he’s a liberal Democrat.

    Colonel Haiku (f22a59)

  20. which is why it’s known as the dog trainer over hear, any publication that carries the ap feed, is fishwrap to varying degrees.

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. @21. Holt is a registered Republican.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  22. If granny grifter has a terrible night, debates don’t matter, will be the msfm response.

    mg (31009b)

  23. Given the size of their audience, I doubt MSNBC qualifies as ‘Big’ Media.

    If the debates allow fact checking it should account for the blatant partisanship of fact checkers by not having the moderator do it. Allow each candidate to bring 3 fact-checkers who sit on the sides of the stage with air-horns, and when the opposing candidate makes what they consider a lie they blast the air-horn. After the debate the fact-checkers will explain each instance they claimed the opposing candidate was lying.

    max (ba4dc9)

  24. I see that’s a big story today, DCSCA. Best case, he’ll probably be as “fair-minded” as Chris Wallace (who obviously leans left), or he’ll reflect the bias of who and what he works for. If any have watched his newscasts, it’s normally the usual Comcast/NBC/MSLSD take on events.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  25. The moderator who moderates least, moderates best.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  26. Fact-check: The act of comparing a candidates statements to the checker’s preconceived notions (i.e. “facts”).

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  27. 23. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/26/2016 @ 9:16 am @21.

    Holt is a registered Republican. And Chris Wallace is a registered Democrat (apparently because he lives in Washngton. D.C. and wants to vote in the Democratic primary, the only election that counts, or at least he only party that has primary elections.)

    2006 newspaper story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001509.html

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  28. Edoc118 (006bea) — 9/26/2016 @ 8:59 am

    Have you never watched national news? They change the clock’s time zone every few minutes.

    On what kind of service?

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  29. When Trump and illary greet each other on stage, he should whisper into her ear, “We have brand new video of Bill cavorting with another woman. We’re going to release it publicly later tonight.”

    Whether it’s true or not, is beside the point.
    But by whispering that to her, it’ll throw her off her game for the evening. That’s the whole objective.

    This is war.
    Brass knuckles, baby.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  30. Anyone who would stoop to shaking hands with Donald Trump deserves whatever half-baked gibberish Elephant Stone would have him utter.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  31. I’m pretty sure I don’t want Hillary to stop lying, because such an event would rend the fabric of space-time irreparably and collapse the cosmos into a singularity.

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  32. Nice, CS!

    Colonel Haiku (f22a59)

  33. Thanks, Colonel.
    It’s cynical and sneaky and dishonest, but hey, that’s how they play.
    The entire Alinsky playbook is predicated upon lies and deceit.

    We successfully implemented the D-Day Invasion partially because we planted misinformation that we would actually attack elsewhere.
    You gotta do whatcha gotta do to win.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  34. They just better hope no one sneaks in a strobe light.

    A Hillary seizure with 100 million watching would be a scene.

    Mike K (dc2d28)

  35. I see a number of puerile Trump hating Trolls are out already and the moon hasn’t even risen.

    Actually, since the blog host despises Trump (and since the most puerile commenters here, hands down, support Trump) you’ve assigned “troll” to the wrong camp.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  36. On what kind of service?

    FNC, for example

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  37. when you juxtapose Mr. Trump with that nasty stinkypig like you gonna see tonight

    he sparkles with starshine and karate chops

    it’s a spectacular sight to behold!

    be there or be square i say

    i hope it’s not past my bedtime

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  38. If granny grifter has a terrible night, debates don’t matter, will be the msfm response.

    They’ve already played that card. “Debates hardly ever matter” and so forth. Except, of course, when the MSM can use them to spin for the Democrat.

    “Ah, Ford, you dolt, Poland is too a Communist country. Says so right here in my List of Communist Countries!” Never mind that 15 years later it was clear that there were NO Communist countries west of the Koreas. Just Communist Parties with guns.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. @26- Anybody who narrates ‘Why Planes Crash’ couldn’t possibly turn this debate into a train wreck, eh?

    Not so sure about the Wallace affiliation- certainly his family/father was very close to Nancy Reagan.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  40. I see Mr Puerile showed up on cue.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  41. So did the other one.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  42. Debate fun fact: No Kiddie Table in this debate. But because she is so much smaller, Maudie has been provided a shorter podium than JR. Gee, if JR was granted the courtesy, he’d be all the more taller.

    No ‘kid’-ding.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. BTW, why even watch the debate tonight? The result is as preordained as anything could be. The MSM will be unanimous in saying that Hillary won and that Trump was a boob, and a Drudge poll will show the exact opposite.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. “@31-When Trump and illary greet each other on stage,…”

    He instantly wins points. He towers over her.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. Well, actually, they’ve boosted up HIS podium. I was hoping that they’d give her a stool and that she’d fall off of it.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  46. He instantly wins points. He towers over her.

    Good camera work will make that look threatening.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  47. @29/30– figure out the cable TV clocks, Sammy. Then get back to us.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. @48- Toadstool?

    NBC just aired they cut down her podium to size so headshots on TV will appear symmetrical but the walk on should show their size difference. She was denied any platform to stand on. Voters tend to vote for the taller candidate– there’s some data to support this trend — and some myth ot it as well– but it’s not totally definitive. But height is an advantage.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  49. The images I saw show one of the podiums raised, not cut down.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  50. How are they adjusting for the fact that Clinton’s got bigger hands?

    Leviticus (efada1)

  51. They’re making excuses for her losing already— moderator unfair; not her forte, a studier not a showman…

    Today’s battle state polls have Team Maudie alarm bells ringing– they’re shaken… Colorado and PA are in play.

    Personally, I suspect this election is going to go like 1980’s– in the last ten days or so the numbers will slide to JR and Maudie will get cancelled. Then do her Jon Lovitz/SNL ‘I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy’ impression.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. @52– Well, they reported hers cut down. NBC podium biases revealed???

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  53. If Trump does good, debates don’t matter.

    mg (31009b)

  54. Should be amusing to see what she wears given her hydration needs… 90 minutes at a podium might require Maudie to be toting and cloaking one of those ‘astronaut diapers under a pantsuit. JR might just have his usual latex strap on…. a motorman’s friend.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. @56– If it’s a draw, he wins. If he wins, its over.

    If he loses, it’s still a race.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  56. Colorado and PA are in play.

    Music to my ears, buddy.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  57. @31.When Trump and illary greet each other on stage, he should whisper into her ear, “I see you shaved your moustache tonight. Legs, too?”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  58. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/26/2016 @ 10:43 am

    He instantly wins points. He towers over her.

    Donald Trump is 6 feet 2 and Hillary Clinton is 5 feet 4, but she is going totand on platform to make their heights at the podiums equal.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  59. Be the Clinton who shines in a smaller crowd

    Given what Bubba gets up to in more intimate surroundings, that’s a low f*cking bar.

    40 lashes with a wet noodle for you, NBC.

    JP (f1742c)

  60. i’m elated for to have the opportunity to see and experience the democracy tonight

    watch with someone you love

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  61. illary having an artificially elevated platform could backfire.
    She could realllly simulate Maude.
    After all, people remember that Bea Arthur was a big girl! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  62. The sound of teh Left’s gnashing teeth, rending of garments and sharting was heard throughout teh land…

    ” Nate Silver’s site now says Trump is 54.5% likely to win, and Hillary is just is at just 45.5%.”

    Colonel Haiku (f22a59)

  63. Let Hillary be her unloveable, screechy, preachy, obnoxious, deceitful self. Trump should largely ignore her attacks but point out her tired and failed ideas have wrecked the American dream for tens of millions and are destroying the lives of billions of others around the world while enriching herself and her friends. Not a pretty sight or a tough choice.

    crazy (d3b449)

  64. holy moly that harvardtrash ted endorsement’s like pouring gasoline on a fire oh my goodness america

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  65. How are they adjusting for the fact that Clinton’s got bigger hands?

    Leviticus (efada1) — 9/26/2016 @ 10:57 am

    Probably the same way you’ve always done it in the men’s locker room?

    Colonel Haiku (f22a59)

  66. Actually I can prove that whole “large hands” thing is a myth. My hands are enormous.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  67. Lol

    Colonel Haiku (f22a59)

  68. I knew you’d love that one, Colonel.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  69. On the other hand (rim shot), Michelle Obama’s got some pretty big hands!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  70. 72.On the other hand (rim shot), Michelle Obama’s got some pretty big hands!

    Why yes, Cruz Supporter, yes he does.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  71. If bill’s wife does good, it will be the most important debate in history.

    mg (31009b)

  72. Colonel Haiku (f22a59) — 9/26/2016 @ 11:43 am

    ” Nate Silver’s site now says Trump is 54.5% likely to win, and Hillary is just is at just 45.5%.”

    Nate Silver says his formula, and the thinking of many journalists, probably understimates the probability of Trump winning. Betting markets he says, would capture it, but he’d like to see what a betting market limited to political journalists and commentators would do. (he thinks they’d underrate it, but he also seems to think regular betting markets overrate it.)

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-where-the-race-stands-heading-into-the-first-debate/

    In general, FiveThirtyEight’s polls-plus model has closely tracked betting markets — more closely than any other major forecast (including our own polls-only model). There’s a modest gap between them now. Whereas polls-plus gives Clinton a 58 percent chance and Trump a 42 percent chance, Betfair gives Clinton a 62 percent chance and Trump a 34 percent chance (reserving a 4 percent chance that someone other than Clinton or Trump somehow becomes the next president, a possibility that FiveThirtyEight’s models do not consider).

    For a variety of reasons, ranging from the fact that that gap isn’t all that large to that betting markets can plausibly account for some factors that FiveThirtyEight’s models don’t, I’m not sure about whether I think there’s enough edge there that I’d actually advocate laying money down on Trump. I suppose I wish there were a betting market open only to political journalists and commentators, though. My hard-to-prove sense is that they underrate Trump’s chances as compared with both betting markets and our forecasts.

    538 is making an error here in eschewing the possibility of someone other than Clinton or Trump becoming the next president.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  73. All trump has to say if you want political correctness vote for crooked hillary if not vote for me! I will build a wall she will open the flood gates. I oppose free she wants obama to pass top before she takes office.I will stop the muslim terrorist from coming here she wants to bring more here!

    trump wins debate (8a5034)

  74. Finkelman’s Follies… there’s your site name, Sammeh. Give it a shot, use those gifts!

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  75. canckle clock
    over/under 45 minutes

    mg (31009b)

  76. The task for Hillary will be to remain vertical.

    Bob23, the task for any female around Bill is to remain vertical.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  77. I plan to press the play button on this every time I sense Tracy Flick can’t understand why she isn’t 50 points ahead.

    but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN1bJqU50iA

    I really hope I don’t spend any portion of the next four year term throwing a mental milkshake at her limo, or vanbulance, whatever she picked out.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  78. Nate Silver is being savaged by Hillary’s people today for being a toad-sucking traitor. Particularly when he says that the trend lines all look terrible for her and blames her and her awful campaign.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  79. Hillary sold her presidency years ago, so she has a head start on that one.

    Assistant Village Idiot (34f32c)

  80. Since Hillary is going to be standing on a 10 inch platform, will she be able to wear a helmet, or simply be strapped to the podium?

    Local Trash (846161)

  81. 85.Local Trash (846161) — 9/26/2016 @ 1:18 pm

    Since Hillary is going to be standing on a 10 inch platform, will she be able to wear a helmet, or simply be strapped to the podium?
    She probably still has enough if asense of balance and muscle strength not to fall.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  82. Trump would troll her well if he stood in a hole and made her 8″ taller than him.

    Assistant Village Idiot (34f32c)

  83. Hillary vs Trump debate dance battle :

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-b39wqf1o

    The good stuff starts at 1:50

    Ingot (371fae)

  84. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/26/2016 @ 10:47 am

    @29/30– figure out the cable TV clocks, Sammy. Then get back to us.

    I dont get cable.

    Come to think of it, I vaguely remember seeing a clock changing its time zone somewhere, but thought that was peculiar. I wouldn’t expect this to be common. You’d think when they got more professional, they’d give each cable system its own time. Run separate feeds. I mean the ads are separate aren’t they, some of them?

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  85. Colonel Haiku (d0a528) — 9/26/2016 @ 12:42 pm

    Finkelman’s Follies… there’s your site name, Sammeh. Give it a shot, use those gifts!

    No, “The Sammy Zone”, or “The Little Room.”

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  86. Or “The Padded Room”. Oh wait, that’s mine.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  87. I’d go with Room 101, Sammy. You have the demonstrated ability for generating the necessary gin scented tears ambiance.

    Rick Ballard (102f97)

  88. Hillary’s gonna have a med control panel on her wrist like Space Ghost.

    Pinandpuller (595ad8)

  89. I got a Debate prep” cartoon about the debates from “The Nib” whose bias I think is best descrobed as anti-Republican.

    Maybe it’s more far left wing, but maybe not quite. And it’s not all that careful with the facts. Like late night comedians, maybe, but worse?

    It shows the candidates getting ready for the debate, dressed like prizefighters, with boxing gloves.

    Panel 1: Hillary sitting down in her corner, being coached by Obama

    GOAD TRUMP INTO HAVING AN OUTBURST…. THEN IF THERE’S TIME, HIGHLIGHT YOUR QUALITIES THAT ARE LIKEABLE ENOUGH.

    Panel 2: Again, Obama coaching Hillary:

    AND I CAN’T STRESS THIS ENOUGH: STOP PRAISING REPUBLICANS. IT’S DUMB AS HELL.

    Panel 3: Trump in his corner, being coached by Mitt Romney.

    HERE, USE MY BINDER FULL OF ZINGERS

    Romney is holding a looseleaf folder labeled ZINGERS

    (The people drawing the cartoon somehow lose sight of, maybe on purpose, that Romney has not endorsed Trump!)

    Panel 4: Romney is now holding his looseleaf book closer, not over the ring. Trump is speaking:

    NO THANKS, NERD! I’VE GOT AN INTERNET FULL OF RACISTS.

    Well, you can see their bias.

    =========================================

    There’s also another very wordy panel.

    On top:

    Bush Administration casualty Colin Powell’s hacked emails criticizing the current Presidential candidates…

    Picture of Colin Powell with a smartphone:

    Smartphone says:

    “Trump is a disaster.”

    Also on the other side of his face, in the same kind of (electronic) cloud:

    “Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”

    Below the drawing:

    …have vaulted him to the top of the list of people we wish were running for president

    The author, or cartoonist, may be someone called Keith Knight.

    The panels above and below Colin Powell are actually in ALL CAPS bu I thought it might be better to just do hat like regukar writing. The elctronic writing is not in all caps.

    Sammy Finkelman (3915d0)

  90. @85 Local Trash

    That’s her Dukakis moment unless they ask her what she would do if Bill got raped.

    They have no one close enough to break her fall.

    Pinandpuller (595ad8)

  91. I’d like to ask her what Bill would do in that theoretical Kitty Dukakis what if?

    Pinandpuller (595ad8)

  92. As far as podiums go they need to dust off the Seal of the President Elect for Trump.

    Pinandpuller (595ad8)

  93. a picture is worth a thousand words

    http://www.headlineoftheday.com/

    narciso (d1f714)

  94. “Voters tend to vote for the taller candidate– there’s some data to support this trend ”

    I don’t know, it didn’t work for Jeb…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3237930/Jeb-Bush-gets-head-Republican-candidates-manages-tower-Donald-Trump-stands-tiptoes-group-photo.html

    LBascom (c230be)

  95. Dirty Harry would be my choice to have a seat next to cuban. 45 and all.

    mg (31009b)

  96. I just want to get on the record that I am predicting a disaster for Trump. He will go way too far attacking her and he will not be able to handle legit questions about his shady as hell charity expenditures, and his lack of donations.

    The campaign narrative will be cemented that even though HRC is a lying POS, so too, is DJT.

    Can you imagine the lead Ted or Marco would be enjoying right about now?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  97. The consensus of Big Media appears to be that Donald Trump is a liar. And they’re not scared to say so.

    You mean the guy that spent two days trying to dance around a bomb being a bomb? Wait, that was some other guys.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  98. becankled cackler
    challenge is to look human
    and seizures don’t count

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  99. passing the turing test, is a challenge, also voight kampf, their job is to support the regime,
    capisce, conprende,

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. Oh Juanita, my sweet taquito, what are you up to?
    Put my money in yo meter, baby, so it don’t run down
    But you caught me in a squeeze play
    On the cheesy side o’ town

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  101. Telling Trump to stop lying is like telling water to stop flowing downhill, SarahW. Ditto for Hillary. With the two of them together, we’re in danger of a super-critical mass of mendacity.

    nk (dbc370)

  102. @1. The first question should be obvious but likely out of left field for Lester to pitch:

    Why do you want to be President of the United States?

    Maudie would do a Kranden hummada-hummada, searching for a six point response.

    JR would keep his eye on the ball, say, ‘to make America great again’ and knock it out of the park.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. @61- Believe platforms were denied by the debate commission. So they scaled the podiums.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. Not to mention the mendoucheness of the Trumpkin moonwaffles* and sockpuppets, here.

    *That is my word.

    nk (dbc370)

  105. a lot of you here, you do not love Mr. Trump with your whole heart and the words you speak they’re the words of the blasphemer

    i’m a pray for you that you too might walk in his grace

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  106. ah david spade’s here, now we have a party,

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. If she dazzles America in a floor length gown at walk on, she’s likely hiding heels and that astronaut diaper to lessen their height difference and her bulk, then will kick them off behind the podium under her tent.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  108. hihihi when is this debate exactly btw

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. First they came for Savage.

    mg (31009b)

  110. ugh it’s 8 pm my time (central)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  111. I’ll be watching the football game. The bright side, there as well, is that one of them is going to lose.

    nk (dbc370)

  112. This is funny, I don’t care who you are…

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/glenn-beck-sours-cruz-backed-rubio/

    But Glenn, he was anointed by God, ya’ll said.

    Oh well, maybe God told him the Cuban was his guy, and Glenn misunderstood. It happens…

    LBascom (c230be)

  113. sore loser harvardtrash ted is working over time to demonstrate to failmerica the precise value of his endorsements

    coveted is not a word what’s going to be used for them going forward

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  114. *overtime* i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. btw that cartoonishly airbrushed photoshop of the pig msnbc uses is way more suited to a porn mag than to a news channel

    it’s the same as lying

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  116. it’s tigerbeat for politics, I dubbed that for mark landler of carlos slims and julie davis, but peter nicholas at the journal, most of the entire bezos lineup,

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. people’s exhibit a,

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/09/25/nyts-pathetic-endorsement-hillary-clinton-reads-like-list-excuses-failings/

    they used the entire ring of chimps, on break from attempting hamlet,

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. Story goes JFK had a woman before his first debate w/The Big Dick 56 years ago tonight.

    Will Hillary?

    ‘A woman is only a woman but a good cigar’s a smoke.’ WC Fields

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  119. i wonder if lester crowley will ask whether Mr. Trump or the pig would be happy to sign the bill letting people sue the saudi royal perverts in court for their terrorisms

    the whole whirl will be watching, and it would be a very beautiful moment

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  120. 6 years of job growth says Lester.

    Colonel Haiku (d0a528)

  121. WASHINGTON, Sept. 26 (UPI) — Donald Trump would earn enough votes to win the presidency in the Electoral College based on UPI/CVoter’s state tracking poll released Monday.
    Trump would amass 292 votes and Clinton would get 246 with 270 needed to secure the oval office.

    But the candidates’ leads are narrow enough — 5 percent or less — in 12 states to classify them as swing states, meaning 156 electoral votes could be up for grabs.

    If the battleground states are not counted, the race would be tied 191-191.

    DNF (ffe548)

  122. Three Breitbart/Gravis state polls of likely voters — Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina — demonstrate how close the presidential election between Democrat Hillary R. Clinton and her GOP rival Donald J. Trump has become just before the first presidential debate.
    In Minnesota, Clinton and Trump are tied with each having 43 percent of the vote, said Doug Kaplan, the managing director of Gravis Marketing, the Florida-based polling firm that executed the poll.

    In Pennsylvania, Clinton leads Trump with 46 percent to his 43 percent, and in North Carolina the former first lady leads Trump 44 percent to the New York City developer’s 43 percent, he said.

    DNF (ffe548)


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