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8/7/2016

Iran Executes Nuclear Scientist Who Had Been Discussed in Insecure Hillary Emails (Video)

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:58 pm



Iran has executed a nuclear scientist for cooperating with the United States — a scientist mentioned in emails sent to Hillary Clinton’s private and unsecured server. USA Today reports:

An Iranian scientist accused of providing information on his country’s nuclear program to the United States has been executed for treason, an Iranian judiciary spokesman said Sunday.

Shahram Amiri was charged with spying for enemies of the Islamic Republic of Iran, spokesman Gholamhosein Mohseni-Ejei said in his weekly news conference, the Iranian Student News Agency reported.

“Amiri had access to confidential military secrets and was connected to our No. 1 enemy, the Great Satan,” Mohseni-Ejei said. “He was sentenced to death in primary court, and the sentence was confirmed by Supreme Court” after Amiri appealed.

Buried 14 paragraphs deep in the USA Today story is this nugget:

The recent release of emails sent by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on a private server while she served as secretary of State apparently include references to Amiri, the Associated Press reported.

An email forwarded to Clinton by senior adviser Jake Sullivan on July 5, 2010, from Richard Morningstar, a former State Department special envoy for Eurasian energy, says, “Our friend has to be given a way out. … We should recognize his concerns and frame it in terms of a misunderstanding with no malevolent intent.”

Another email, sent July 12, 2010, by Sullivan, appears to refer to Amiri just before the story of his complicity became public.

“The gentleman … has apparently gone to his country’s interests section because he is unhappy with how much time it has taken to facilitate his departure” from the U.S., Sullivan wrote. “This could lead to problematic news stories in the next 24 hours.”

Oddly enough, they seem more concerned about “problematic news stories” than with the safety of a critical asset helping the United States. Now that man is dead, and it’s time for Big Media to start asking questions about whether Hillary’s recklessness contributed to his death.

Tom Cotton was on Face the Nation this morning, and had some interesting things to say about this. Start watching at 4:25:

COTTON: You mentioned the Iranian scientist who was recently executed. Now, of course I’m not going to comment on what he may or may not have done for the United States government, but in the emails that were on Hillary Clinton’s private server, there were conversations among her senior advisors about this gentleman. That goes to show just how reckless and careless her decision was to put that kind of highly classified information on a private server. And I think her judgment is not suited to keep this country safe.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Thanks to Kevin M. (UPDATE: and Colonel Haiku).

103 Responses to “Iran Executes Nuclear Scientist Who Had Been Discussed in Insecure Hillary Emails (Video)”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. This is why Hillary cannot should not may not become El Presidente.
    Trump’s a narcissistic jerk who probably hasn’t read the Federalist Papers, but something like this would piss him off.

    Something like this doesn’t piss Hillary off.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  3. Isnt Hillary’s chief of staff Iranian – sounds like Hillary has an accomplishment we so seldom have a chance to discuss – Oops sorry wrong country

    joe (debac0)

  4. She had a ‘short-circuit.’

    So they gave him the ‘electric chair.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  5. This type of information, that will gravely endanger individuals as well as national security, is usually Top Secret: Sensitive Compartmented Information, or a Special Access Program with further qualifications past the normal TS screening.

    Not only should these never be in emails, they are never to leave very secure places.

    This is the kind of thing that regular folks spend life in a supermax for doing.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  6. Hillary is probably off the hook because the scientist was himself reckless, or perhaps he WAS kidnapped and refused to blab and this “leak” was payback for not talking.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  7. We just need to keep in mind that the people who executed this man are the same people Barack insists we can trust to deal with us squarely.
    Of course, if Barack could trust these people, he wouldn’t have had to funnel $400 million in cash on wooden pallets under the cover of darkness via cargo planes.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  8. #7

    We just need to keep in mind that the people who executed this man are the same people Barack insists we can trust to deal with us squarely.
    Of course, if Barack could trust these people, he wouldn’t have had to funnel $400 million in cash on wooden pallets under the cover of darkness via cargo planes.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/7/2016 @ 1:39 pm

    I wasnt ransom – Obama said it wasnt and not a single MSM reported that it was ransom – so it cant be

    joe (debac0)

  9. Another example of how the MSM will deflect and protect their candidate. Let’s review: there was a suggestion that HRC’s actions with her e-mail—about which she has lied repeatedly—led to the death of an intelligence operative in Iran.

    Rather than deal with that, the news flack IMMEDIATELY turned to DJT’s temperament.

    Now, I don’t like either of these candidates. But I detest how much the MSM continues to be in the tank.

    Maybe folks like Tom Cotton need to record their own interactions with the media, and post that. Because we simply cannot trust the media.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  10. This is entirely a war of memes. What kinds of snippets and bumper stickers get repeated, over and over again, until they sink into the gray matter of the public before voting.

    We see it here in this comments section. Meme warfare is everywhere, and is the antithesis of thought. Pure reaction.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  11. Say, whatever became of the Pakistani fellow that told us the whereabouts of UBL?

    Jay (79d782)

  12. Greetings:

    Things might have been different if the scientist had been a Clinton Foundation donor.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  13. I’m sure Sammy will be along shortly to tell us how Hillary’s server was really more secure than the government’s.

    Edoc118 (4cfe56)

  14. Or how server security really isn’t the issue somehow, and then 10,000 words of ancillary information.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. We can’t be worrying about national security when there are nude photos of Melania floating around!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  16. #12 Jay,

    Not to worry, bud, that Pakistani doctor who risked his life is resting comfortably in an undisclosed cabin at a lake in upstate New York.
    Oh wait. My bad. He’s actually serving a life sentence in a hell-hole where he’s likely being beaten daily.
    For some reason, the diplomatic efforts of Barack, Hillary, and John Forbes Kerry were unable to secure his release.
    But if it’s of any consequence, Barack has taken a do-or die hard-line on the issue of gender-specific public restrooms in the state of North Carolina!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  17. Now that man is dead, and it’s time for Big Media to start asking questions about whether Hillary’s recklessness contributed to his death.

    Yeah, I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

    Hillary’s email scandal is like Watergate with a body count.

    Somewhere the ghost of Richard Nixon is wailing, “Should have run as a democRat!”

    arik (02de93)

  18. Isnt Hillary’s chief of staff Iranian

    No. I can’t imagine where you got such an idea. Huma Abedin was born in Kalamazoo, and was raised in Saudi Arabia. Her father was born in India and her mother in Pakistan. As far as I can tell she has no connection to Iran whatsoever.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  19. i missed the part in the blog post where this is all Trump’s fault…

    someone’s violated the style guide here.

    redc1c4 (7afbfe)

  20. yes, the abedin’s are from the subcontinent, like effendi khan,

    narciso (732bc0)

  21. From the front page of today’s NYT, Tim Kaine reassures us that it’s all good on the Hillary email front now:

    I know that this is something she’s learned from, and we’re going to be real transparent. Absolutely.

    Well that’s a relief.

    Dana (995455)

  22. Thanks to Kevin M. (UPDATE: and Colonel Haiku).

    Patterico (bcf524)

  23. here is the twist though,

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25968.htm

    reminds of that series, the company, where they burned an asset to undermine angleton,

    narciso (732bc0)

  24. The entire Obama administration has leaked vital, top classification level, secrets for years. Hillary probably not the worst.

    Combined with abject incompetence and inaction, an enormous ultimately uncountable number of people have died because of Obama, Hillary and their corrupt cronies.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  25. Another example of how the MSM will deflect and protect their candidate. Let’s review: there was a suggestion that HRC’s actions with her e-mail—about which she has lied repeatedly—led to the death of an intelligence operative in Iran.

    Rather than deal with that, the news flack IMMEDIATELY turned to DJT’s temperament.

    Now, I don’t like either of these candidates. But I detest how much the MSM continues to be in the tank.

    I do too, Simon Jester. But FFS, this is what Trump is tweeting about instead: The media is going crazy. They totally distort so many things on purpose. Crimea, nuclear, “the baby” and so much more. Very dishonest!

    He has been handed every bit of ammo needed to put this woman away, but he won’t because he will not stay focused on her missteps and criminal behavior because his attention span is that short, and he simply cannot allow anything to be about anything other than himself. Any of the other GOP candidates would have already been slicing and dicing the Dems, Obama, and Clinton over this. They would be more like Tom Cotton. And not let up.

    As much as Hillary and the Dems have given Trump plenty to work with and use against her, he continues to give the media plenty to work with, too.

    So frustrating.

    Dana (995455)

  26. Traitors are treated well only as long as they are useful. You have to admire the way the Iranians made lemonade out of this lemon, though. They squeezed him for all his propaganda value when he came back, hailing him as a hero who escaped from his Satan-American kidnappers; then hanged him in a matter of course way pour le encourangement les autres.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. jayvee’s have claimed an alternate draft pick,

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37003146

    narciso (732bc0)

  28. he tweeted the drudge link, four hours ago,

    narciso (732bc0)

  29. corrupt FBI cowardslut James Comey says it’s all good in the hood

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. Dana, you are correct.

    I have been saying for some time that all the foolish and counterproductive moves that DJT makes—moves that actively help HRC—seem to be his choices.

    I refuse to think that he could possibly be this stupid. So I strongly suspect his job is to destroy the Republican party and get HRC elected. And the Republicans who voted for him deserve it all, every bit of it.

    Again, before the trolls start up: DJT keeps making profoundly stupid mistakes in judgement, in the people he hires, in how he deals with issues, in how he deals with the media. He literally isn’t doing his homework for the job.

    These are his choices.

    It’s not due to misrepresentation by the media. This is who this person is, and it saddens me.

    I watch Tom Cotton, and I think, “why can’t we have a candidate like that?” But then, almost any candidate of the past twenty years would be better than DJT.

    Time will tell.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  31. 14. Edoc118 (4cfe56) — 8/7/2016 @ 2:44 pm

    I’m sure Sammy will be along shortly to tell us how Hillary’s server was really more secure than the government’s.

    Well, it was The passwords probably had to be personally approved by the SYSOP. State.gov was hacked, but we have no knowledge that clintonemailcom was hacked, and the only reason they are saying it was less secure is to cover up bad government security.

    Clintonemail.com could have been made almost absolutely bulletproof by limiting access to devices personally approved by the SYSOP. They probably didn’t do that, but it may have that level of security now – because it is not out of business, although the domain name may have been changed.

    By the way, Hillary did weaken the security of state.gov for a while, because her messages were being treated as spam, and, since she refused to give the people running state.gov her e-mail address, or to use a special state.gov address, the only way her messages could be seen by say, Hum Abedin, was to disable the spam filter (which had been installed or upgraded in an attempt to prevent phishing attacks.)

    It’s not clear how this was eventually resolved. Probably the sysop of clintonemail.com hacked into state.gov (using his legitimate State Department crednetials, but still doing some unauthorized stuff) and whitelisted her, without creating a record that said that hdr22@clintonemail.com was Hillary Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  32. What goes around comes around. To everything, turn, turn, turn. Karma is a b!tch (and then one is elected President). Trumpkins need to feel how libs felt in 1988 when they got four more years of 41 after eight years of Reagan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get angry, skinheads.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. The only reason anything that was on Hillary’s server is public, is because in an attempt to cover up, she asked that everything she sent to the State Department be made public. What’s public is what somebody decided is NOT classified. It’s not the result of Iran or Russia hacking into it.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  34. On clintonemail.com “the passwords probably had to be personally approved by the SYSOP.”

    He probably made sure that they weren’t using the same password anywhere else, and double checked what they claimed their password anywhere else was.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  35. as I pointed out simon, he did bring that point up, in a drudge link, cotton couldn’t get one senator, not cruz, not lee, not the revered sasse to go along with him, in uncovering the rhodes road show,

    narciso (732bc0)

  36. I agree, narciso.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  37. trashy Ben Sasse says let’s do a dumpster fire on the wiggle giggles

    all life is precious

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. I have come to the conclusion that I have been doing Margaret Sanger a great injustice, myself.

    nk (dbc370)

  39. so they burned him, after he had provided the lie, that there was no nuclear program,

    narciso (732bc0)

  40. Another email, sent July 12, 2010, by Sullivan, appears to refer to Amiri just before the story of his complicity became public.

    July 10, 2010, was “just before the story of his complicity became public”

    When did it become public? Five years ago. And not because something about this was discussed in an e-mail outside of U.S. government custody.

    Somebody seems to be circulating factually defective allegations against Hillary Clinton. These memes get picked up all over. It happens again and again and again. It’s like nobody can read things right. This has been bothering me a long time.

    Could it be on purpose, so that they occupy the cyberspace of much more accurate allegations??

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  41. it’s quite clear, the first rule of fight club is you don’t talk about fight club, you don’t mention the afghan president’s brother is a cia asset, you don’t give away the location of your ambassador at all times,

    narciso (732bc0)

  42. #42 Sammy wrote,
    Somebody seems to be circulating factually defective allegations against Hillary Clinton.

    Yes, the media keep circulating defective facts about Hillary. Every time she does something, they say she didn’t do it. And every time she didn’t do something, they say she did.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  43. that’s one iranian asset, one pakistani asset in prison, one saudi asset in hiding, one afghan asset mentioned above, dead, she subsequently knew that the proamerican head of the army, was executed by salafi rebels, as with muammar,

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. Sammeh teh Obfuscator using his trademarked Pretzel Logic™

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. he’s a regular lamont cranston, that one,

    narciso (732bc0)

  46. Trump will go on TV and brag about our YUGE spy network in our Russia who are GREAT people and do TREMENDOUS work and will give their cover identities and the places where they’re operating.

    nk (dbc370)

  47. Patterico is the worst offender and traitor on this site.

    He works constantly to get Hillary elected.

    Every chance he gets he slams Trump.

    Shame….

    If the GOP loses the Presidency and perhaps congress over the Trump hating, then comes the Supreme Court.

    What have the Trump haters gained then?

    Zero sum game, folks.

    Oops.. I forgot… Patterico abandoned the GOP

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  48. That would be good news, narciso.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. On clintonemail.com “the passwords probably had to be personally approved by the SYSOP.”

    He probably made sure that they weren’t using the same password anywhere else, and double checked what they claimed their password anywhere else was.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd) — 8/7/2016 @ 4:10 pm

    What passwords had to be approved by the SYSOP? The password Hillary used to log in?

    Gerald A (76f251)

  50. I think of this fellow,

    http://www1.udel.edu/globalagenda/2003/student/readings/CIAdefectordies.html

    who was the pidgeon, they had put up, to hide both hansen and ames,

    narciso (732bc0)

  51. One of Sammy’s previous actual arguments was that the server couldn’t have been insecure because Bill and Hillary wouldn’t permit such a thing.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  52. If there are any traitors, it’s the Trumpie scum that hijacked the GOP and gave Hillary the dumbest, least acceptable opponent imaginable. Then they blame everyone else for not cosigning their treason.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  53. she funded the skulkovo military village, transferred our uranium stockpile into russian hands, still threatens to turn over syria to the jihadists, yes trump is the problem,

    narciso (732bc0)

  54. Patterico is the worst offender and traitor on this site.

    Then why are you still here, PTS?

    Hint: you can’t be a traitor if you never pledged your loyalty to begin with. I never pledged loyalty to the GOP. I have, by contrast, taken an oath to uphold the Constitution.

    I am not a traitor to the Constitution and never will be.

    You seem to be spoiling for a ban. Keep it up and I’ll happily accommodate you — and nobody here will ever give you a second thought.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  55. transferred our uranium stockpile into russian hands

    ?

    nk (dbc370)

  56. Gerald A (76f251) — 8/7/2016 @ 6:59 pm

    What passwords had to be approved by the SYSOP? The password Hillary used to log in?

    Yes. Hillary, Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills etc.

    This is maybe not a joke. The software probably didn’t have the capability of automating high quality passwords, and besides, even if it did, they might have wanted to go to a higher quality password (that is, more or less impervious to a dictionary attack) than the software would allow.

    Also he would have wanted to check to make sure at least that the same password was not used on state.gov. (Hillary didn’t have a state.gov account but her chief aides did.) Probably other places as well.

    The Sysop could probably read everything if he wanted to. But only when physically present. It might have been set up so it could be read remotely, but it probably wasn’t. This was a small system.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  57. shirley you can’t be serious, the rosatom acquisition,

    narciso (732bc0)

  58. Sammy, at the end of the day, Hillary wasn’t supposed to have a private server.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  59. Yeah, Willow Creek. One mine, previously owned by a Canadian company. 20% of U.S. production. But production is not stockpile or reserves. If we’re going to privatize uranium mining and allow foreign ownership ….

    “When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.” — Joseph Stalin

    nk (dbc370)

  60. 54. Gerald A (76f251) — 8/7/2016 @ 7:07 pm

    One of Sammy’s previous actual arguments was that the server couldn’t have been insecure because Bill and Hillary wouldn’t permit such a thing.

    And that they have a very good track record at keeping secrets, and probably at hiring people who do, or they have some people working for them (lawyers maybe) who are good at hiring people who know how to keep things confidential.

    And if not, everything would have been exposed by now.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  61. And their methods are mostly low tech.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd)

  62. I bet President Hillary will stand up to Iran.
    Only committed Trumpkins would dare deny such a self-evident truth.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  63. now how this will probably work is the rosatom controlled company, then sell the uranium to iran, with part of the cash they got from the ransom, closing the circle,

    narciso (732bc0)

  64. It’s pretty obvious Sammy knows nothing about .gov emails. Hint: you don’t log in with a user name and password. Especially not on a classified system. Believe it or not, the government is a little more sophisticated than Gmail.

    Edoc118 (05a689)

  65. from corera, who’s done a definitive study of cyber espionage, the first nsa computers were air gapped so they were not directly in contact with the internet, that’s how much security they had involved, of course they had christopher boyce at trw, the pre Snowden, selling keyhole data out the backdoor,

    narciso (732bc0)

  66. Hillary was so honest and transparent in her explanations of Benghazi, that we should accept her explanations for why her emails disappeared.

    After all, she is going to be nominating the next several Supreme Court justices, so we should just get used to her versions of truth, even when they’re lies.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  67. legendarily corrupt, criminally incompetent, as empathetic as nixon on benzedrine, her disasters involve every corner of the world outside antartica,

    narciso (732bc0)

  68. 4. Gerald A (76f251) — 8/7/2016 @ 7:07 pm
    One of Sammy’s previous actual arguments was that the server couldn’t have been insecure because Bill and Hillary wouldn’t permit such a thing.

    And that they have a very good track record at keeping secrets, and probably at hiring people who do, or they have some people working for them (lawyers maybe) who are good at hiring people who know how to keep things confidential.

    And if not, everything would have been exposed by now.

    Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd) — 8/7/2016 @ 7:57 pm

    How exactly would we know that “they have a very good track record at keeping secrets”? Where does that come from? That statement actually refutes itself. We could only know it if we knew what their secrets are. It’s a typical kind of made up “fact” of yours. As is your claim about having a good track record of hiring people who “know how to keep things confidential”.

    And further what does keeping things confidential have to do with computer security? Being good at hiring people who “know how to keep things confidential”, assuming it’s true, has nothing to do with that. We know that the company they hired to set up her server isn’t cleared to do deal with classified information. We know that it wasn’t encrypted for several months – a very elementary error indicating a slipshod operation, refuting your fact-free assertions.

    Then you make up another “fact” about the email passwords and how that makes it more secure than a government network.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  69. they kept the server in a bathroom closet, they received intelligence reports from french and german agencies, likely the ones which had crafted ‘the no wmd’ narrative, through drumheller and murray,

    narciso (732bc0)

  70. Evidently HRC is now attended by a neurologist, counselling her out of lockup at Union Hall, helping her up stairs and carrying a Diazepam autoinjector:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/oh-hillary-handler-carries-diazepam-pen-seizures/

    WTF are possible reasons to vote for this zombie?

    DNF (755a85)

  71. there are parallel with yurchenko, who was dangled in front of the cia, then returned to russia, of course there’s also nosenko, who was sent to make sure no kgb/dgi fingerprints were on oswald

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. Sammy,

    So because the Clintons have a history of being dishonest and not abiding by the rules, we should believe they wouldn’t intentionally be sloppy?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  73. 70. Beyond dispute and therefore anyone declining to oppose her ascension is likewise a monster.

    The right mimics SF Nan to claim “we must elect her uncover her competence.” ESAD cattle.

    DNF (755a85)

  74. 57. Because prevaricators need to be opposed.

    DNF (755a85)

  75. Well, the fact that everyone has known for decades that they’ve been engaged in multiple felonies, and yet in all that time nobody has been able to come up with actionable evidence, is a strong indication that they’re not sloppy with security.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  76. wrong answer, actual evidence doesn’t matter, you can ask ted stevens, it will be a bit, bob mcdonnell, tom delay, their prosecutors proffer false evidence, their defenders ignore the evidence altogether,

    narciso (732bc0)

  77. 78. They do skate, despite actionable evidence, e.g., this whole email dust up.

    Comey lied in implying intention was pertinent to a half-dozen ready charges.

    Avoiding charges for coke running in Arkansas was ‘cleaned up’ by several assassinations and intimidation of prosecutors and witnesses, buying judges, you name it.

    DNF (755a85)

  78. well inspector dreyfus, my coinage has been a persecutor re gonzalez before the fact, and an enabler after the fact, I chased that mena rabbit warren, likely needs nowhere,

    narciso (732bc0)

  79. Trump’s a narcissistic jerk who probably hasn’t read the Federalist Papers, but something like this would piss him off.

    Something like this doesn’t piss Hillary off.

    Yes, it would.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  80. Piss Trump off, that is.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  81. The Master said “No man is good, but God alone”.

    Trump is merely a man, but he like most of us hesitates to call what is clearly evil Good.

    This is manifestly not the case with the Clintons, and actually HRC is worse than her sham mate. Their sole object every waking hour is to gather more power without regard for anything positive.

    They are not merely ‘not good’.

    DNF (ffe548)

  82. 82. Trump may be an egomaniac but narcissism is a different affliction wherein one cannot appreciate any quality not perceptible in oneself.

    TFG is a narcissist. Read more.

    DNF (ffe548)

  83. Avoiding charges for coke running in Arkansas was ‘cleaned up’ by several assassinations and intimidation of prosecutors and witnesses, buying judges, you name it.

    OMG, you believe that crap?! The Clintons’ felony record runs to bribery (and the occasional rape), not coke running, let alone assassination!

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  84. wrong answer, actual evidence doesn’t matter, you can ask ted stevens, it will be a bit, bob mcdonnell, tom delay, their prosecutors proffer false evidence, their defenders ignore the evidence altogether,

    No false evidence was offered against DeLay or McDonnell. There was no significant dispute about the facts, only about the law. The prosecutors simply made up laws that don’t exist. The evidence against Stevens wasn’t false either, but the prosecution covered up exculpatory evidence that might have led the jury to a different conclusion.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  85. Evidence for bribery requires proof that there was a quid pro quo agreement. Take the cattle futures scandal, for an example. It’s patently obvious that this was a bribe, but for what? Nobody knows. And without that information they can’t be prosecuted.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  86. narciso and Simon J.,
    Did Cruz, Sasse, and Lee actually vote against Cotton?
    Did any of them give a reason?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  87. Those not voting for Trump should feel very, very safe with Hillary.

    cedarhill (846440)

  88. stinkypig will do so good your pitiful children didn’t need no jobs anyways, not as long as you hold on to your one

    it’s the failmerican dream

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. I can only look at the rollcall, 92nd.

    narciso (732bc0)

  90. Milhouse,

    Iran didn’t release the hostages until after they received the cash money on pallets delivered by a cargo plane under cover of darkness. If the money wasn’t intended to secure the release of the hostages, what do you suppose it was for?
    Haven’t the Iranians already said it was a ransom payment?

    This sounds like a scenario where the drug dealer doesn’t release the bag of drugs to you until you provide him with the cash payment. But there’s no quid-pro-quo; it’s just coincidental that he gives you the bag of drugs when you give him the cash payment!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  91. CS, why was that addressed to me? Have I — or anyone here — expressed any doubt that this was effectively a ransom?

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  92. Team Clinton owns the media. Put Sheriff David Clarke on it.
    This man has the sac America has been waiting for.

    mg (1c2d1e)

  93. 67. Edoc118 (05a689) — 8/7/2016 @ 8:24 pm

    It’s pretty obvious Sammy knows nothing about .gov emails. Hint: you don’t log in with a user name and password. Especially not on a classified system. Believe it or not, the government is a little more sophisticated than Gmail.

    I’m talking about the unclassified system, which has to be able to be accessed remotely. If a password isn’t or wasn’t used, what is? You could use a “typing signature.”

    Her secret e-mail account substituted for state.gov’s unclassified system, not the classified system, which could only be accessed from specific locations. Locations where nobody was allowed to take a laptop or cellphone into except a carefully prepared tamper-proofed one (because they could be turned into eavesdropping devices, if they were hacked into. Just call the number, connect, but don’t ring. And this basic idea could be tweaked further.) In 2009, the NSA wanted to get out of the business of creating tamper proof devices and wouldn’t do so for Hillary.

    I don’t know why she couldn’t merely have a classified account, but perhaps that would ciuldn;t or wouldn’t be done without having them create for her an unclassified e–mail address.

    Sammy Finkelman (03c82c)

  94. Her secret e-mail account substituted for state.gov’s unclassified system, not the classified system, which could only be accessed from specific locations.

    Sammy Finkelman (03c82c) — 8/8/2016 @ 9:00 am

    No, it clearly substituted for their classified system as well, since she didn’t use the state.gov classified system.

    Gerald A (945582)

  95. I see, and am glad to see, that National Review’s Jim Geraghty, not only did not drink the Kool-Aid, but pushed back against it:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/morning-jolt/438766/

    Yes, the Iranian regime executed a nuclear scientist who reportedly helped U.S. intelligence who was mentioned in Hillary Clinton’s e-mails. From this, one might think that Clinton’s insecure server got the man killed. It probably didn’t help Amiri, but the story is a bit more complicated than that…You may see the stories indicating that being named in Hillary Clinton’s e-mails led to Amiri’s ultimate fate. It probably has a lot more to do with his decision to return to Iran…..Did Clinton’s e-mail get Amiri killed? Not directly, but it’s unnerving to see she was discussing such material on an insecure system…. Amiri was probably a dead man the moment he decided to return to Tehran, no matter how secure Clinton’s server was.

    It was all public.

    The question is who is spreading this sort of thing around. It goes on all the time. I don’t think it’s coming from the “vast right wing conspiracy” But something is going on, with inaccurate attacks aimed at Democrats. Always inaccurate, although people may not see that it is, right away. They never get anywhere, because in the final analysis, they are inaccurate and flawed. But there’s usually something much worse, related, that you could say. Sometimes it maybe even close to accurate but the proof is the wrong proof.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  96. Gerald A (945582) — 8/8/2016 @ 9:53 am

    No, it clearly substituted for their classified system as well, since she didn’t use the state.gov classified system.

    no, it didn’t, because anything taht supposed to be on tyhe classfied system, couldn’t be put on an unclassified system. Hillary Clinton even complained about them several times, usually when there was no intrimsic reason for soemthing to be classified.

    She claiemd what substitutedfor teh classified system, was secure video and audo calls, and having things sent to her aides, who did have a state.gov classified account, and printed out. Also one on one meetings.

    All things that never were recorded, at least not tied to her name. The only thing any notes were made of were conversations with foreign leaders. (which weer not taped or transcribed)

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  97. Sammy Finkelman (03c82c) — 8/8/2016 @ 9:00 am
    I’m talking about the unclassified system, which has to be able to be accessed remotely. If a password isn’t or wasn’t used, what is? You could use a “typing signature.”

    If you’re on an ordinary computer (not on the government network) you’d have to set up a VPN, which typically takes the permission of an admin. It’s not as simple as navigating to some webmail site and logging in.

    Edoc118 (05a689)

  98. Amiri wasn’t named in the Clinton emails. He was referred to indirectly as “our friend”, and that was a very bad idea, but I see people who should know better claiming that he was named.

    Milhouse (5a188d)

  99. This is no big deal. Rodham can be TRUSTED. She has NEVER LIED and lied and lied and lied and lied and lied and lied and lied.
    Rodham has been trustworthy and PATRIOTIC. RIGHT???
    Wow, I hope I’m weeding out the LIBTARDISH/RETARDISH.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  100. Mark Levin, on his radio show, seems to think there’s a possibility pr even likelihiid (you can’t prove it, he says) that mentioning the scientists name in Hillary’s email led to his death.

    There are a couple of things wrong with that;

    1) It wasn’t a secret that he had defected, or that the United States was counseling him against returning to Iran.

    2) I don’t think his name was actually mentioned in the e-mail, but vague terms were used, like “our friend.”

    3) The only secret might have been the question of whether he was recruited in Iran, ir was he a walk-in defector.

    4) The e-mails being quoted were made public last fall, as a result of Hillary requesting that all the emails she retutned to the State Department be made public (obviating any FOIA requests.)

    There’s no there there.

    Sammy Finkelman (03c82c)


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