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7/31/2016

Reminder: Hillary Clinton Is a Giant Liar

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 10:08 am

If you’re looking for a truth-teller, this is not your candidate:

Hillary Clinton claimed Sunday that FBI Director James Comey said statements she made about her use of a private email server as secretary of state “were truthful.”

The remarks came in an interview with “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace who challenged her on the claim.

I’ll put up video when I can find it.

Here is an extensive analysis that the AP did showing how Comey’s findings showed that Clinton lied about one thing after another regarding the emails. A few examples:

  • CLINTON: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” News conference, March 2015.

    THE FACTS: Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton’s server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were top secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.

  • CLINTON: “I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.” NBC interview, July 2016.

    THE FACTS: [T]he private system did, in fact, handle emails that bore markings indicating they contained classified information, Comey said.

  • CLINTON: “I responded right away and provided all my emails that could possibly be work related” to the State Department. News conference, March 2015.

    THE FACTS: Not so, the FBI found.

    Comey said that when his forensic team examined Clinton’s server it found there were “several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000″ that had been returned by Clinton to the State Department.

  • CLINTON: “I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for personal emails instead of two.” News conference, March 2015.

    THE FACTS: …Clinton “used numerous mobile devices to view and send email” using her personal account, Comey said. He also said Clinton had used different servers.

And it goes on and on and on. The linked piece has many, many more contradictions between Clinton claims and Comey’s findings.

She is, put to it simply, a giant liar.

UPDATE: Larry O’Connor has the various video clips at this Hot Air post.

128 Responses to “Reminder: Hillary Clinton Is a Giant Liar”

  1. I can’t stand her.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. your batting .067 now…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. i remember from time to time how NPR hounded harvardtrash Alberto Gonzales out of office

    all he did was fire a bunch of creepy government workers – and he did it entirely legally, truthfully, and honestly

    NPR is very selective about ethics, which, it makes me think we should stop giving them so much tax money

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. 4 to 8 years of this: https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/240131/ ?

    GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  5. She never addresses the press, so she lies less frequently than Trump. You want me to point out Trump lies from the past few days? He claimed the NFL sent him a letter complaining about the debate schedule. They didn’t. He claimed his campaign had nothing to do with changing the Republican platform regarding Russia/Ukraine. They did. He claimed Russia is not in Ukraine. It is. There are others.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  6. the NFL is mostly illiterate thug-lifers

    and the ones who can read and write are not particularly honest in my experience

    and me I for sure would rather watch Mr. Trump stick it to stinkypig in a rip-roaring debate than watch some NFL thuggy thugs play grabass

    I’ve thought about this a lot

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. If Hillary Clinton … can’t give us the truth … why should we give her the presidency.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. ‘Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton’s server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were top secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.”

    Facts? LMAO!

    What you leave out is that they weren’t MARKED classified at the time she sent them. Please proceed.

    rob (55d382)

  9. reminder me again

    why did stinkypig have her own server to begin with Mr. rob?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  10. “THE FACTS: [T]he private system did, in fact, handle emails that bore markings indicating they contained classified information, Comey said.”

    Truth? LMAO! there were 2. The State Department corrected the record and indicated they were marked “c” in error.

    Oh…and by the way….as one supposedly interested in nothing but the truth….please explain to the idiots that frequent this and other “conservative” sites that the FBI…..!ALREADY HAVE! the 30,000 “missing” emails.

    Thanks!

    rob (55d382)

  11. “why did stinkypig have her own server to begin with Mr. rob?”

    Obviously to conspire with the Chinese to overthrow the US gov’t. Why else?

    rob (55d382)

  12. the FBI is corrupt and feckless anymore

    that terrorist’s wife in Miami? they let her escape!

    fbi lol

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. oopers Orlando i mean

    i can’t even keep all these terrorisms straight anymore

    strange days are coming

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. hes still sore over the 3 dollar jury award. And speaking of King David’s from another post, didn’t some Jewish guy offer up an educated redneck David.

    urbanleftbehind (cb1822)

  15. I believe the load wearing the pantsuit said This campaign will be carbon neutral. Such B.S. Flying around in private silver crows.

    mg (31009b)

  16. I found her comment that she “should have used 2 email addresses” not that she should have used the government classified and unclassified systems properly to be interesting as though the email address was the problem and not the reckless usage of commercial systems for inappropriate and unauthorized official purposes.

    crazy (fcf2fd)

  17. Watched it. Might as well been a visit to a Pennsylvania Dutch pretzel factory.

    She has a secret plan to end the Vietnam War, too.

    Hillary more Nixon than Nixon. And one of him in a lifetime is enough.

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  18. Disappearing Clinton docs in boxes from the old Rose Law Firm days and now emails in the new days – ah, so much easier. Reminds of my uncle who was on a ship torp’d during WW II and his job
    as the ship went down was to destroy secret docs accomplished by weighting and sinking them. Interesting May issue of Judicial Watch where they secured, finally, Whitewater Indictment Document against her with the potential hundred witness, etc., to be used at trial. Yes, Clintons too big to jail & too big to fail. Nothing changes.

    Judy Eaton (a1a820)

  19. Hillary is a giant liar but let’s enable her to become President anyhow!
    Loretta Lynch will make a better AG than Chris Christie, and everyone knows it.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  20. She brazenly continues the lies and they send paid shills out to obfuscate and muddy clear waters. These people must be destroyed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. Patterico, your opinion doesn’t matter. So just relax. 🙂

    Anyway, regarding your comment about Trump and the NFL, he said he “got a letter from the NFL saying, ‘This is ridiculous….'” He didn’t specify any NFL official, and it could have been a player or something, big deal. It’s not like he claimed that he received the Heisman Trophy as Hillary would do if she thought the media would back her up. And unlike Hillary, Trump has corrected any misunderstanding about this contact with someone in the NFL.

    Andrew Hyman (0c18a2)

  22. Hillary Clinton is a criminal and the old, lying cow needs to be put out to pasture, if not in shackles.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. Chris Wallace is pathetic.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. We should just ignore 1.2% GDP growth during the 2nd quarter as well as all these ISIS-inspired murders throughout the world and instead focus our attention on Melania’s 10th grade book report which she may have written with help from Clif’s Notes.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  25. Softball interview, as is usually the case with Democrats. Few challenges to inconsistencies and lies that are on the record. Wallace is a weak-suck quisling.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. Watching Miss Hillary was really an amazing bit of theater.

    Perhaps this one short segment will play hard against Clinton’s denials about her email situation.

    Wallace said Director Comey directly contradicted (and basically stated she’d lied) about receiving/transmitting classified materials.

    She disagreed, stating that SHE had looked at the whole record and even stated the FBI had stated she had been truthful.

    This no doubt referred to her “honest” interview with the FBI that Saturday morning before the 4th of July.

    I would imagine it went something like this.

    FBI: Mrs. Clinton, would you please state your name for the record.

    Clinton: Hillary Rodham Clinton (a truthful statement)

    FBI: Thank you. Now Mrs Clinton, at any time during your tenure as Secretary of State, did you utilize any email communications devices other than those owned and issued by the State Department.

    Clinton’s lawyer(s): Mrs Clinton declines to answer by asserting her 5th Amendment rights under the United States Constitution.

    For three hours hence, many questions were asked to which Clinton’s lawyers gave the same or similar 5th Amendment reply as above. She had 4 lawyers who had to trade off repeating the 5th Amendment assertion due to hoarseness and general fatigue.

    Hence, at the end of the day, Clinton answered honestly at the single question to which she personally replied accurately stating her name.

    Therefore, Director Comey was able to truthfully state that Clinton had been honest in her answers with the FBI.

    QED

    Clinton also basically blamed the entire email thing on underlings and others. Everyone should watch this interview with Wallace. One of the few and really clear juxtapositions of her lying and being contradicted by a very credible source.

    It is too bad Patterico will help enable this sociopath attain the presidency.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  27. C.S.
    tranny urine matters…

    mg (31009b)

  28. Haiku

    You’re wrong.

    Wallace did a very good Job. He had a few hard questions and pursued them a bit.

    In doing it this way… giving her a pre-knotted rope … she basically lied to us all again and to Wallace as well for all to see.

    You’ll notice, he edited in the Q and A between Gowdey and Comey in rapid fire fashion where Comey DIRECTLY contradicted Clintons claims with Wallace.

    The Amerian people were easily able to see this. I’m sure this exchange will show up again and again in GOP ads.

    Clinton did herself no favor in this interview with Wallace, and IMO, has further hurt her credibility

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  29. @ Andrew Hyman (#21): I’m really sorry to see you start the task of trying to clean up after Trump’s lies.

    The man isn’t truthful. You know that, Mr. Hyman, or I very badly misjudged you.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  30. Our country needs Barry Goldwater.
    He left all the Democrats in the dust during the 1964 election with his speaking truth to power. But for some reason, after he took the Oval Office, he helped implement the Great Society, and he fought the Vietnam War with one hand of America tied behind its back.
    Oh wait, that’s right … he lost.
    So he didn’t facilitate all those policies.
    I guess that’s what happens when you lose an election — the other guy gets to govern.

    Viva la Hillary!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  31. Beldar

    You should go back to your home planet.

    You’re a fool who seems intent on helping Clinton.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  32. @5- Relax.

    All Americans care about is which one is the better show. Because voters don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained.

    The choice: four years of Dallas or four years of Maude.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  33. Mr. Trump is awesome Mr. Beldar!

    if you got a casbah you know he’ll rock it

    if you got a sidewalk you know he’ll chalk it

    if you got a hijab you know he’ll mock it

    if you got a stinkypig he’ll awe and shock it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. The biggest lie of all is:

    “I responded right away.”

    That was a pre-arranged exchange of letters *, after her lawyers had negotiated a modification to the original request so that all previous Secretaries of State since 1997 would be asked for their e-mails.

    * I assume there was an exchange of letters. That’s the only thing “I responded right away” can refer to. I have to assume theer was such an exchange. “responded’ doesn’t mean “Supplied’ and indeed they weren’t supplied right away, and in fact the State Department at least once or twice, had to tell her that there were more they knew that she hadn’t supplied. Finally, Kerry decided to accept it. Natually they were just about only e-mails that went to state.gov addresses, because the State Department wouldn;t have copiesd oof any exchanged with somone at the Defense Department, for instance.

    She tells so many lies, people miss well over half of them.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  35. @21 Andrew Hyman

    He could have received a letter from Bob Kraft.

    Conflate-gate.

    Pinandpuller (c16705)

  36. Larry Hagman or Bea Arthur.
    It’s your choice, America!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  37. Beldar, you say of Trump “The man isn’t truthful.” There are different degrees and different kinds of truthfulness. Rare is the person who is completely untruthful in all respects. Patterico brought up the NFL thing, and I just think that particular incident is trivial; it’s not a blatant lie, and even so he followed it up with truth. I’m curious what you think is Trump’s biggest lie. If you identify that lie, I may well agree with you.

    Andrew Hyman (0c18a2)

  38. 5. Patterico (bcf524) — 7/31/2016 @ 10:24 am

    She never addresses the press, so she lies less frequently than Trump.

    She’s also more careful with her lies.

    Compare

    “I responded right away.”

    TO:

    “I got a letter from the NFL saying”

    In the first case, any reporter writing about it doesn’t know enough to say it is a lie, and besides that, she has a defense in which can claim it is the truth, if you just interpret it properly, (in you knew facts you had no knowledge of at the time)

    In the second case, there’s absolutely nothing backing up the lie, and it’s easily exploded.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  39. When will the American people realize that we’re governed by our enemies – the progressives – and when will we decide that we’ve had enough? These progressives have unleashed the lowest common denominator factor on America and they’ve mutated democratic politics into a freaking reality show. They rule without obedience to our own justice system and use the heavily politicized civil service bureaucracy as tools to achieve their ends. And now these entrenched progressives form barriers to fight the danger of a populist democratic counter-offensive with two slow, but deadly tactics: subsidized public education that serves propaganda created by their leftwing ideologues to brainwash America’s youth, and illegal importation of less educated, low-skilled 3rd worlders to bolster their voting ranks with needy people looking for handouts.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  40. You Trumpkins! Where are your priorities?
    We need to stop focusing on the former Secretary of State who compromised national security then lied about it multiple times, and begin focusing on some letter from the NFL.

    Besides, you’ll just have to accept that baseball is no longer America’s pastime!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  41. crazy (fcf2fd) — 7/31/2016 @ 11:59

    reckless usage of commercial systems for inappropriate and unauthorized official purposes.

    She didn’t use a commercial system for e-mail. Except maybe to get it there.

    Not so for telephone calls, but there are no records of what she said or told anyone.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  42. @29- He’s a successful, savvy, lying, cheating, blustery, BS-ing, greedy, glamorous, gawdy and accomplished, money-grubbing capitalist with skyscrapers and properties employing thousands to prove it.

    He’s as as American as apple pie.

    He’s got a hot wife (and ex-wives), cool kids and cold cash. And he’s a New Yorker, which is what really makes Texans feel small.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. @ Andrew Hyman (#37): His biggest lie, as relevant to our current circumstances, is when he says he cares about America and Americans, and when he claims to have principles. He cares about nothing or no one but himself. He follows no principle except “Do what’s best for Trump.” He’s a sociopath, and his entire manufactured self is a lie.

    But in fact, it would be much harder to list the entirely truthful things that Trump says in any given day, or any given speech, than it would be to list his petty distortions, middle-sized exaggerations, outright whopping misstatements, and frequent deliberate through-the-teeth-you-can’t-catch-me-I’ll-brag-even-if-you-do lies. So I’ll take your invitation to this rhetorical game to be a jest, and I note you carefully avoided giving your own conclusion about whether Trump is a truthful person upon whom voters can rely.

    If you think he is, say so in those words, or admit that you can’t. Then I’ll know if I have misjudged you.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  44. “Wallace said Director Comey directly contradicted (and basically stated she’d lied) about receiving/transmitting classified materials.”

    it’s called up classifying…..he never contradicted her statements.

    rob (55d382)

  45. Malia Obama Dances & Flaunts Abs In Hot Crop Top At Lollapalooza — Watch!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  46. screwed up downtown this weekend bad i wanted to do wildberry

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. Beldar,

    All (or most) of those characterizations of Trump may be true, but he’ll have Chris Christie as AG, while that other noted liar, Hillary, will re-nominate Loretta Lynch.
    That in itself has to count for something.

    Rudy Giuliani as head of Homeland Security — or Terry McAuliffe?
    Which is your preference?
    We could have had a better, more reliably conservative nominee, but so many conservatives were #NeverRubio, #NeverKasich, and #NeverJeb, among others.
    There were actually regular commenters at this blog who had some weird animus toward Carly Fiorina of all people!
    So, our quest for perfection ultimately resulted in a very sub-par product.

    It’s like someone who waits to enter the movie theatre until thirty seconds before the curtain opens — you just end up with a bad seat and a sore neck.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  48. Cruz Supporter, you’re a whole lot smarter than the Trumpkin shills, and it’s very disappointing to see you adopt their technique of putting words into the mouths of our host, or others who share his views about Trump, so that you can then argue against a straw man.

    No one is stopping YOU from saying whatever you want to convince people to vote against Hillary.

    But I’m getting awfully annoyed at people who impute false words and intentions to others, and you’re joining that crowd, I’m sorry to see. Please reconsider. It’s disrespectful, and it ends the possibility of respectful conversation.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  49. it’s called up classifying…..he never contradicted her statements.

    rob (55d382) — 7/31/2016 @ 1:11 pm

    ======================================

    That’s a lie.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  50. His biggest lie, as relevant to our current circumstances, is when he says he cares about America and Americans, and when he claims to have principles. He cares about nothing or no one but himself.

    I disagree with that. But since it’s difficult to prove his affection for Americans and America to be true or false, I suppose we’ll have to disagree about it. Generally speaking, he is not as truthful a person as Ted Cruz, but is much more truthful than Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.

    Andrew Hyman (0c18a2)

  51. It’s not a lie. Go watch Comey’s original statement….around the 4 minute mark. Not that actual facts will change your opinion….

    rob (55d382)

  52. huh Mr. Beldar?

    i don’t see where Mr. Cruz Supporter did any impute on Mr. Patterico or anyone else

    i scrolled all the way up and then back down

    was this something in another thread?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  53. Bottom line is that she lied about everything, even the number of smart devices she employed. She used this private server to allow her to conduct her ongoing efforts to sell her office, access and ability to provide special favors, business contracts and such to the highest bidder. That’s why other investigations of her activities are ongoing.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  54. She stinks.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  55. teh Cankles Patrol
    they got nowhere to go
    George Soros robots divorced from reality
    common stock, they work around teh clock
    we shove our poles in their holes

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  56. bottom line is that you are impervious to facts….but that is your choice. Please proceed.

    rob (55d382)

  57. She lies about lying about lies.

    Carry on, spud.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. hillary’s impervious to that disgusting herpes lesion on her tongue

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  59. #48 Beldar,

    What are you talking about?
    I literally just agreed with your characterizations of Trump, but said that his Cabinet and agency picks will be preferable to those of Hillary.
    How is this an attack on anyone?

    We could have had someone better than Trump, but that’s not what the people wanted.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  60. Among the delectable tidbits [in Wikileaks] on which Republicans are feasting are these: one male DNC staffer wrote another male staffer saying “I love you” and added “no homo.” Another DNC email referred to Latino voters as “taco bowl outreach.” Now ousted DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz is exposed as a liar for falsely claiming she was not working behind the scenes to defeat Sen. Bernie Sanders and secure the Democratic nomination for Hillary Clinton.

    DNC chief financial officer Brad Marshall violated what is for Democrats a sacred doctrine of church-state separation when he wrote in an email to DNC CEO Amy Dacey about Sanders’ religious beliefs: “Ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.”

    Dacey replied, “AMEN.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/240166/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. Mr happyfeet, I didn’t even know that Lollapalooza was still a thing! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  62. honestly i wouldn’t have known either but there were a lot of signs all week

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. Rob

    Either you have very bad comprehension or you are a Hillary lover.

    Maybe you have the “what the meaning of “is” is” virus.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  64. A 27 year old DNC staffer by the name of Seth Rich was murdered in a decent neighborhood of DC during the early morning hours, a couple weeks ago.
    But the assailant(s) didn’t take his wallet, phone, or watch.
    So, it wasn’t a robbery — so it suggests indications of a “hit” if not just a coincidental act of random violence. But why didn’t they take his wallet?

    There’s a lot of rumors, particularly since people are whispering that he had a (unconfirmed) connection to Wikileaks.

    Stay tuned … if you thought Vince Foster’s death was puzzling (and I don’t actually), this one might become interesting.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  65. PTS….maybe you should actually watch and listen to what Comey ACTUALLY SAID rather than what Hannity or some other knucklehead(s)tried to convince you she said. These guys know (and have made billions) that conservative foot soldiers are the least curious subset of the population. They know you won’t fact check anything they say. They know your predispositions and market to those. And here you are! Unwilling to fact check even after I’ve given you the original source.

    rob (55d382)

  66. should be he said…not she said

    rob (55d382)

  67. Candidate Clinton has not held a formal press conference in roughly 220 days.

    Americans have launched spacecraft, navigated them across open space and place them in orbit around the planet Mars in less time.

    If elected, we will hardly ever see her or hear from her again outside of ceremonial functions required by the office or appearances in her favor. She issue statements, send out layers upon layers of surrogates and hold one, perhaps two pressers a year. She is more Nixon than Nixon.

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. rob, it makes no difference whether they were marked classified or not. The information was classified at the time, and it was her responsibility to recognize its status. Not to mention the fact that the classified markers were only missing because she told her staff to erase them. Or the two documents where they forgot to erase the marks — and no, they were not marked by mistake.

    Milhouse (0f3c4e)

  69. Quote by Patterico:

    “I can’t stand her.”

    Well, with your constant complaining about (and refusal to vote for) Trump you’re gonna get her. So pick one and ride with it dude.

    I’m with Trump, albeit reluctantly.

    Name (097843)

  70. Yes…they were marked by mistake. Go read the transcript of Comey’s hearing.
    They weren’t classified AT THE TIME….thus Clinton didn’t “lie.” Was it stupid or derelict or careless to have a personal server? Maybe. But she didn’t lie about the emails….AT THE TIME THEY WERE SENT.

    rob (55d382)

  71. Rob, you are simply lying. Comey said the exact opposite of what you claim.

    Milhouse (0f3c4e)

  72. So, the Presidential debates have been scheduled. Two of them are during nationally televised football games. Trump is thinking this is done so his demographic isn’t watching. The Commission denies this, of course. So the question is this: is the Commission crooked, or stupid? I guess both is possible.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  73. THEY WERE CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME. Some of them were classified TOP SECRET at the time. Some of them were classified SCI at the time. And Comey gave numbers in each category. Stop with the lies, you lying shill bastard.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  74. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/05/six-things-we-learned-from-the-fbi-investigation-into-hillary-clintons-email/

    FBI Director James B. Comey spoke Tuesday about the bureau’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s handling of emails while she was secretary of state. During his remarks, Comey touched on or revealed six new things about the probe:

    1. More than 100 messages across dozens of chains contained classified information when they were sent or received

    Comey said that investigators looked through tens of thousands of emails and found dozens with information that was deemed classified when they were sent.

    “From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received,” Comey said, according to his prepared remarks. “Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification.”

    2. “Several thousand work-related emails” were not among those Clinton returned to the State Department

    3. Clinton sent and received work-related emails while “in the territory of sophisticated adversaries” — and it’s possible, while not proven, her emails were hacked

    4. Clinton “used several different servers” and “numerous mobile devices”

    5. No intent to violate the law, just “extremely careless” behavior

    [Not that this would keep me out of jail if *I* did it.]

    6. The FBI says the “security culture of the State Department” is “lacking”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  75. To reiterate:

    Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent

    Those outside the system may not know what “Top Secret” means, or how seriously people take it when such information is compromised, but before you ever get to see any of it (and only if you need to), you have to undergo a serious FBI background check, where they come and talk to your neighbors and co-workers and friends and ask really personal questions and get really pissed of if they catch you in a lie.

    The criterion for making something “Top Secret” is that it would cause “exceptionally grave damage” to national security if made publicly available. As in, people die.

    And Hillary and her coven treated it like it was a take-out menu.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  76. Stabbing Westward – Save Yourself.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  77. (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  78. Professional troll alert:

    ‘Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton’s server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were top secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.”

    Facts? LMAO!

    What you leave out is that they weren’t MARKED classified at the time she sent them. Please proceed.

    rob (55d382) — 7/31/2016 @ 10:43 am

    CLINTON: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” News conference, March 2015.

    Clinton originally claimed there were no classified emails, then, when it became obvious that wasn’t the case, revised her story to say they weren’t marked classified. Further, since a number were clearly classified at the time, whether they were marked is totally irrelevant. Whether they were marked classified is a Clinton campaign evasion.

    Oh…and by the way….as one supposedly interested in nothing but the truth….please explain to the idiots that frequent this and other “conservative” sites that the FBI…..!ALREADY HAVE! the 30,000 “missing” emails.

    rob (55d382) — 7/31/2016 @ 10:49 am

    They do not have the approximately 30,000 deleted emails that she claims were personal.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  79. puts perspective on Preparation H’s gaping maw photo, I think.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  80. Dear Rob

    Not only did I watch Comey’s press accouncement, I watched the entire testimony he gave before congress.

    You are completely delusional if you think his statements did not DIRECTLY contradict Clinton.

    Any one with reasonable comprehension would come to this same conclusion.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  81. Rob,

    You’re really not “sure” if having a home-brewed server was derilect?

    By the way, if those 30,000 emails “really” were just about yoga and Chelsea’s wedding, then why didn’t she want to prove that to us?
    And how did a Secretary of State actually have time to write 30,000 emails about yoga and her daughter’s wedding when she was so busy screwing up the world?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  82. @40 CS

    Hiligula will solve the NFL crisis: No more debates!

    Pinandpuller (0845e7)

  83. Pinandpuller,

    If a former Secretary of State must NFL crises, can’t it at least be Condi Rice?
    She’s publicly mentioned several times that her “dream job” is to be NFL Commissioner.
    I wish Hillary’s “dream job” were to be NFL Commissioner.
    Unfortunately, it’s not.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  84. #83
    oops, should have said, “If a former Secretary of State must SOLVE…

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  85. Patterico

    Unless you tell me otherwise, I’ll assume the degree to which you hate Hillary will likely cause you to do anything within your power to prevent her from being POTUS.

    Therefore, I’ll further assume your “I won’t vote for Trump” is posturing as is likely the same for a number of other “nevertrumpers”.

    So I know you’ll do the right thing and pull the lever for Trump once in the voting booth.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  86. Google: Hello, this is Dwayne at Gmail customer service. How can I help you, today?
    Trumpkin: Umm, I’m trying to sign up for Gmail and it won’t accept my password.
    Google: Are you sure your passwords has at least 7 characters and one capital?
    Trumpkin: Absolutely. Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Groucho, Chico, Harpo, and Washington DC.

    nk (dbc370)

  87. lol trumpkins are so stupid they’re like so stupid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. I like The Three Stooges and The Marx Brothers.
    That’s why Washington DC is so interesting; because they’ve got more stooges and more Marxists than any other town!
    Yay Washington DC!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  89. @ Cruz Supporter: I apologize for omitting cross-references. In my #48, I was not referring to your comment at #47 (which I hadn’t seen yet when I wrote #48). I was instead referencing your comments earlier in the threat — e.g., #19, #30, #36, #40 — that seem to me to equate failing to vote for Trump with supporting Hillary. That is a false and offensive comparison, and the favorite broken record of Trumpkins here. I’m sorry to hear it from you.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  90. *thread … And that was not a Freudian typo. :-)

    Beldar (fa637a)

  91. @ Mr. Hyman (#50): You still didn’t answer my question as to whether you will vouch for Trump as a truthful person upon whom voters may rely.

    I guess that actually is an answer, isn’t it? I hope so, for the sake of my opinion of you.

    As for this:

    [H]e is not as truthful a person as Ted Cruz, but is much more truthful than Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.

    You imply that they’re equally spaced along a spectrum. And your “much” is not a judgment with which I can agree: On tiny things relating to his ego, Trump lies constantly, multiple times a minute. In my evaluation of “despicable liars who cannot be trusted by the American voter,” they both peg the needle.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  92. stinkypig and her partial birth judge posse sure ain’t gonna be laid to my account that’s for darn sure

    i have moral clarity you see

    thanks mom n dad!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  93. Patterico is not voting for Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  94. Patterico has been saying he won’t vote for Trump for almost a year.

    DRJ (15874d)

  95. I would prefer a POTUS who merely lies about tiny things relating to his ego, even multiple times a minute, as compared to a POTUS who frequently lies about big things unrelated to her ego. Some choice!

    Andrew Hyman (0c18a2)

  96. It seems some opinions have changed in the past year. Mine have. I was open to Trump when others weren’t. I was foolish.

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. when Mr. Trump is juxtaposed against stinkypig the eye is pulled forward almost forcibly

    what once appeared perhaps gross fades as his visage takes on deeper lines

    nuances accumulate rapidly –

    good GOD

    he’s magnificent!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. Beldar,

    I wasn’t putting words in anyone’s mouth.
    I just like to have fun satirizing the typical #NeverTrumper.
    You know I’m no fan of Trump. But if he doesn’t win, then Hillary will.
    So ultimately, whether a #NeverTrumper “wants” Hillary to win is beside the point. The point is that if enough #NeverTrumpers don’t vote for Trump, Hillary WILL win.

    Hindsight is always 20/20, but perhaps a lot of the #NeverRubio and #NeverKasich people would like a do-over to enable Rubio or Kasich to be the nominee, now that it’s Trump.

    Do you know the famous scene in ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’ when they’re cornered up on a mountain ledge with the posse in hot pursuit? Their only option is to jump down into a river below. Sundance says he’s afraid to jump because he can’t swim. And Butch laughs and says, ‘You can’t swim? The fall is going to kill us!
    Naturally, they had to jump because it was a slightly better option than waiting for the posse to come and hang them.
    That’s our predicament. We gotta jump, and hope the fall doesn’t kill us. Because if we enable Hillary to become President, we’re gonna end up in the gallows.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  99. Good pull, DRJ. I liked this quote in particular:

    “All these people supporting Trump “because he fights” or some such thing are morons. What exactly does he fight anyway? Whoever his opponent is at any moment. So what? Obama fights the same way. So do Biden or Webb. I don’t get why these idiots aren’t supporting one of them.”

    – Gerald A

    Leviticus (bdf402)

  100. @ Mr. Hyman (#96): If Trump “merely” lied about small things out of egotism, then he’d just be a jerk.

    He lies about big things in order to deceive the American voting public, Mr. Hyman. For example, to pick just one, he lied when he claimed that Ted Cruz was behind the email blast to Utah voters with the GQ covered-nude photo of Mrs. Trump. He lied about that for weeks, he continues to perpetuate that lie, and I hear it from his Trumpkin shills constantly even now, when he should be talking about Democrats instead of feuding with a sitting GOP senator from the largest red state.

    I don’t care when he lies that he has big hands, no more than I care that Hillary lied when she claimed that the spelling of her name came from Sir Edmund. They both lie, often, about big things. They peg the needle. You can’t ever trust anything either one of them says. Their promises are equally meaningless. Neither has any principles. Debating which one is worse is exactly like debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and I’m not interested.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  101. CS

    The security background check threshold for NFL comissioner is too damn high!

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  102. Speaking of former Secretaries of State I wonder why Colin Powell didn’t show up at the DNC convention this time around?

    Pinandpuller (0845e7)

  103. some of the details, like sherman jackson’s contribution,

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/bridging_troubled_waters_the_estrogen_convention.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  104. “All these people supporting Trump “because he fights” or some such thing are morons. What exactly does he fight anyway? Whoever his opponent is at any moment. So what? Obama fights the same way. So do Biden or Webb. I don’t get why these idiots aren’t supporting one of them.”

    – Gerald A

    Leviticus (bdf402) — 7/31/2016 @ 4:26 pm

    That’s still my opinion. The Trumpers did not attempt to refute it either. I also believe that he’ll appoint more conservative judges than Hillary. This is not complicated.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  105. Pinandpuller, if Hillary were NFL Commissioner, I bet the New York Yankees would be winning the Stanley Cup every year! (LOL)
    Although I’m certain that some of the traditionally losing franchises would expect Commissioner Hillary to engage in a little redistribution of playoff berths.
    Because she’s about fairness.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  106. If only someone or some entity could find her 30,000 missing emails.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  107. I’m sure the media would reward that person or entity mightily.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  108. CS

    In that scenario Bill’s mandate would be cheerleader tryouts.

    Pinandpuller (c16705)

  109. @41 Sammy F. She didn’t use a commercial system for e-mail. Except maybe to get it there.
    Thank you. That was the point. Focusing on the private server alone fails to take into account the many other problems the Secretary of State created by using COTS devices and commercial networks to connect to clintonmail.com. There was a lot of spillage in a lot of places. So much that the experts could never account for all of it. The same problems exist no matter how many email addresses one uses if you’re moving stuff that belongs in the SCIF and classified networks to and from your homegrown server over Verizon/AT&T or the coffee shop/hotel wifi because it was easier and more convenient than using the classified system.

    Hillary and the 300 are skating because charging them exposes the Obama administration’s rampant disregard for information and communication security.

    crazy (fcf2fd)

  110. #108 AZ Bob,

    Did you just publicly wish that Hillary’s email would be found?
    Sir, that’s encouraging espionage. It doesn’t matter if you were being extremely careless or what your intent was, you deserve to be prosecuted.
    You and Scooter Libby should each be on the chain gang, repairing federal roads!
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  111. Beldar (#101), I think Trump frankly stated on national television that he had no proof Cruz was behind that Utah ad. Points to Trump for honestly saying he had no proof. Has Ted Cruz ever denounced that ad run by the superpac “make America awesome”? If not, then perhaps it’s not totally unfair to draw an inference from that silence.

    Andrew Hyman (0c18a2)

  112. Guy who claims to be a Cruz supporter forgets to mention Cruz is his remarks about better candidates than Trump.

    My impersonator is carrying Hillary’s water, but it’s got a major leak due to all the BS he’s spouting.

    Carry on.

    njrob (58c9d5)

  113. #112 Sorry, I have no intent.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  114. She didn’t use a commercial system for e-mail. Except maybe to get it there.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49) — 7/31/2016 @ 1:03 pm

    You’re not supposed to use commercial systems to get any classified messages anywhere. Period. That’s why the government has classified networks in the first place.

    I recall you claiming that the classified networks aren’t secure as a way to get around that problem. Your ongoing efforts to downplay the massive security violations of what Clinton did are revealing and trollish.

    Gerald A (945582)

  115. Devolution is real.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. Sammy teh Fink!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  117. Dustin teh Shill is permanently becankled.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  118. @njrob Paul Krugman, in today’s New York Times, argues the opposite. He seems to be arguing anyone not for Hillary is for Trump, and to be for Trump you have to believe that a Clinton victory would lead to irretrievable disaster. Then he makes a number of mostly specious arguments. He ignores Clinton corruption entirely, and possibly trying to cement control, and includes unrealistic things among the Trump dangers. For instance, “wildly irresponsible tax cuts” cannot be passed without Congress, and the debt won’t be renegotiated. Of the trio of horribles, only tearing up trade agreements is a real possibility.

    There are real concerns about NATO and Russia, but some other foreign countries are associated with the Clintons.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  119. Gerald A (945582) — 8/1/2016 @ 6:30 am

    You’re not supposed to use commercial systems to get any classified messages anywhere. Period. That’s why the government has classified networks in the first place.

    Her private e-mail substituted for the unclassified state.gov system, not the classified system, which she didn’t use at all personally.

    It turns out some classified information was alluded to at least in the e-mail sent to her server, and two items weer wrritten as classified and should not have bene put on anything but the classified system.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  120. Her private e-mail substituted for the unclassified state.gov system, not the classified system, which she didn’t use at all personally.

    That statement doesn’t make any sense. If she sent messages which belong on a classified system, then it substituted for the classified system.

    What does the fact that she never used the State classified system got to do with anything? You’re engaging in ridiculous non sequiturs. So anyone can send top secret messages over any email system they choose as long as they never once used a classified system?

    Gerald A (945582)

  121. Dustin teh Shill is permanently becankled.

    Colonel Haiku

    One tiny problem with your theory. I think Hillary’s terrible. She sued Citizens United, lied about many national security matters, and is corrupt to the core. I’ve never shilled for anyone. I’ve always been open to, and offered my own, criticism of my preferred candidates, like Gov Perry and Sen Cruz. To you this is some kind of weakness, but to me these guys are politicians and not worth lying for.

    To you die hard Team R types, anyone who is honest about Trump must be doing it in bad faith, because Trump is a republican nominee, and it’s not possible to criticize a republican nominee in good faith. That is the absurd logic partisans on both sides use to justify hating good people who simply want to hold both ‘sides’ politicians accountable. This is how our two party system has cultivated and covered for corruption on both sides.

    He seems to be arguing anyone not for Hillary is for Trump, and to be for Trump you have to believe that a Clinton victory would lead to irretrievable disaster.

    Good point, Sammy. To Krugman, everyone holding Hillary accountable for the corrupt democrat primary must justify Trump’s potential absolute trainwreck.

    Both sides have seen their parties become what they are today… no one in their heart is proud of either party, and sadly it’s the partisans, the least ethical, who must decide the truth is worth more than which letter is next the big government crony leader.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  122. Trump would do almost nothing that I want a President to. He’d appoint liberals to SCOTUS and lock in a liberal majority. He’d fund Planned Parenthood. Based on his history I think he’d build on Obama’s crony socialism. I haven’t heard him say anything about Obamacare.

    I see no evidence of commitment to fiscal conservatism. He’s calling for tax increases (one of which – eliminating the carried interest loophole I agree with). I’m unaware of any proposal to make our corporate tax rates more competitive. Instead his big economic plan as far as I can tell is the idea of forcing China to revalue their currency, which is a gimmick that doesn’t get to the heart of our problems and which he would be unable to do anyway.

    All these people supporting Trump “because he fights” or some such thing are morons. What exactly does he fight anyway? Whoever his opponent is at any moment. So what? Obama fights the same way. So do Biden or Webb. I don’t get why these idiots aren’t supporting one of them.

    Gerald A

    Thanks, DRJ.

    Gerald, are you totally shameless?

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  123. it’s hard not to be excited about the food stamp era ending and President Trump putting America on a better path to a more better future (and plus stop raping the economy – good lord obama’s a violent raper)

    November can’t come soon enough!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  124. UPDATE: Larry O’Connor has the various video clips at this Hot Air post.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  125. #123 Dustin wrote,

    I’ve always been open to, and offered my own, criticism of my preferred candidates, like Gov Perry and Sen Cruz. To you this is some kind of weakness, but to me these guys are politicians and not worth lying for.”

    Are you actually suggesting that Colonel Haiku never criticized Trump?
    He wasn’t a Trump guy during the primaries — do you acknowledge that fact?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  126. Dustin (ba94b2) — 8/1/2016 @ 7:21 am

    the corrupt democrat primary

    I don’t know if it was corrupt but it was controlled.

    I think also it wasn’t the money Hillary Clinton raised, but the money she and Bill prevented from going to anybody else – because she and Bill pay attention to that. Hedging bets is not appreciated, unless its all worked out in advance, to help create a foil. Hedging bets is like not giving money to her at all.

    That’s why Joe Biden didn’t run. He was persuaded, probably especially by some people Hillary sent – that he couldn’t finance a campaign. (Although Bernie Sanders and Trump showed you don’t need all that much money to start.) It wasn’t only campaign contributions Hillary vacuumed up, it was signing on campaign professionals, and endorsements from super-delegates. All to convince Biden he would inevitably lose.

    Biden didn’t run because he thought October was too late. And I think previously he thought he did have until October.

    And then also names were floated that Hillary probably knew had no intention of running – I mean Elizabeth Warren, who was in no position to go rogue on Hillary. I’ve never believed that Elizabeth Warren was neutral, or someone who would naturally favor Bernie Sanders. Her whole career was built on lies, and getting help with lies or positioning, and I don’t think she can manage on her own.

    And also: It wasn’t even just stopping anyone from running for president – it was stopping anyone, years before, from even getting into a position to. Sanders wasn’t really supposed to be in a position to, but people on the far left or with such a background, always like running for office.

    The standard Clinton political strategy is, I think, to always get people to say their opponent is worse. The Clinton political career has basically been built on that. It doesn’t always work – the number of electable alternatives cannot always be reduced to zero – and sometimes they have to do a few positives – but that’s the core strategy.

    The positive for this election was: FIRST WOMAN! – something totally contentless, and also meaningless given her very a typical biography. I mean, her career is a creation and an extenstion of Bill Clinton’s.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)


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