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7/28/2016

The Post in Which JVW Admits Defeat

Filed under: General — JVW @ 10:08 pm



[guest post by JVW]

Are you serious? Are you absolutely serious? There was no way on God’s Green Earth that I was going to subject myself to the blarney that Hillary! Rodham Clinton (the Once and Future. . . and all that) vomited on the stage in Philadelphia in real time. And yes, I got drunk instead and am only now reading the transcript (though, I promise you, I am having fun trying to hear it in my mind in her awful honking voice that pushes me to move from the beer to the gin). But let me make a snap judgement based upon the transcript: this was awful, this was the Clintonian mixture of puffery and horseshit, and there is no way that his hodgepodge of garbage will move the needle on her likability.

In reading the transcript of her speech, I swear to God this was the most unambiguous pile of excrement ever let loose by a major candidate. I missed by miles the idea that she might at least make allusion to her well-known foibles and at least address the idea that 57% of the country dislikes her. All of you who bet the Hillary Hiding! at 4:1 win. She is so truly awful that it defies explanation.

Yeah, I have been pretty open as to why (along with our host and some other co-bloggers) I won’t vote for the GOP nominee, but for the life of me I can’t ever take seriously someone who votes for this woman who is singularly the worst major party nominee who has ever been forwarded for consideration.

– JVW

64 Responses to “The Post in Which JVW Admits Defeat”

  1. So that it’s understood, my admission of defeats that I thought for sure that Hlllary! would acknowledge the reason why she is so vastly unpopular. I was wrong.

    Game on.

    JVW (f97acd)

  2. I guess this means that JVW doesn’t find her to be as clean, articulate, and nice-looking as Joe Biden thinks she is!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  3. that would involve self awareness on her part, everything she has done qualifies her, except nothing she has done could be considered positive, in the long term, traditional marriage, enforcing the laws, the iraq war, are all discarded,

    narciso (732bc0)

  4. The other thing I love is that this speech is written such that each sentence is a discrete paragraph. This is pretty much an announcement that you are aiming to the lowest common denominator.

    JVW (f97acd)

  5. The speechwriters put the biographical bits toward the end of the speech, when she should have been building momentum for the conclusion. By the time she got to the part where she’d “humanize” herself my attention was drifting/looking at clock.

    furious (3a3354)

  6. One of the best I’m trying to reach the low information voters moments was when she refuted the “a President doesn’t do it by himself” theory by citing troops, police officers, firemen, and nurses as people who work within the community to get things done.
    It was such a non-sequitir, because cops, firemen, and nurses don’t actually help a President run the Executive Branch, but she knows that a politician can never go wrong by mentioning firemen and nurses.
    I mean, other than Republicans, who out there is against “working together” with firemen and nurses?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  7. that would involve self awareness on her part, everything she has done qualifies her, except nothing she has done could be considered positive, in the long term, traditional marriage, enforcing the laws, the iraq war, are all discarded,

    You’re right, narciso. I thought for sure she would be so desperate to win that she would allow that moment of humility, but she is apparently so cocksure that she is going to plow ahead full steam. This is so interesting.

    JVW (f97acd)

  8. I guess this means that JVW doesn’t find her to be as clean, articulate, and nice-looking as Joe Biden thinks she is!

    Hairy Reed promises me that she doesn’t have that “suburban dialect.”

    JVW (f97acd)

  9. I missed by miles the idea that she might at least make allusion to her well-known foibles and at least address the idea that 57% of the country dislikes her.

    The speech was written for people who, in the proverbial phrase, were “born yesterday.” Except that those people were all for Bernie by about 4-1.

    I thought it might (that means maybe up to 2-1 against but possible) be combined with a very elliptical acknowledgement of some unspecified minor transgression, which does not rise to the level of Hillary! Hints, but she skipped it altogether.

    When Chelsea earlier spoke about some crisis in 19– I thought maybe she was going to say 1998, although that would have surprised me, but she said 1994, and it wasn’t about Cattlegate, but losing the health care battle.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  10. “I’m not here to repeal the 2nd Amendment” – HRC.

    But when it comes to the First amendment, on the other hand….

    And we’ll pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United!

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  11. I just can’t. I wanted to check out the NY Times and the Washington Post and the LA Times and see how the conventional left-wing narrative had received her speech, but after even checking the NYTimes and being subjected to a video with her honking, I have no stomach for it. My guess is that they will largely laud her speech but I wonder if they will go so far as to claim that she has won over critics.

    JVW (f97acd)

  12. HRC: Donald Trump doesn’t care about anyone except himself. I care about everyone except Donald Trump.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  13. HRC says Donald Trump might start a nuclear war:

    Imagine him in the Oval Office facing a real crisis. A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.

    I can’t put it any better than Jackie Kennedy did after the Cuban Missile Crisis. She said that what worried President Kennedy during that very dangerous time was that a war might be started – not by big men with self-control and restraint, but by little men – the ones moved by fear and pride.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  14. Hill and Shorty are just the messengers. The message is that we have become a nation of self-righteous nitwits who prefer colorful bullies to serious leaders. So that’s what we’ll get.

    Considering how much I dislike Shorty, you might think that I consider him the worst of the worst Republican presidential contenders. I don’t. And not by a long shot.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  15. I could not watch or listen.

    mg (31009b)

  16. I won’t vote for the GOP nominee

    If Hillary gets elected because of IDIOTS with this attitude, YOU will DESERVE the absolute cluster-fuck you get. As with Obama’s re-election though, the rest of us won’t.

    I DESPISE Trump. But I don’t see him as blatantly worse than Hillary, so voting in a manner that GIVES HER THE WIN is absolute BULLSHIT.

    The next PotUS, if a Dem, will be able to STACK THE COURT with blatantly liberal assholes in a manner that Roosevelt only DREAMT of.

    And it’ll be YOUR FAULT.

    So, “Thanks in advance” — aka FUCK YOU YOU IMBECILES.

    If Johnson has A CHANCE, fine, vote for him. If he doesn’t, then you’re total assholes.

    IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  17. If you don’t vote for trump you are voting for hillary!

    donn (d44b94)

  18. Bing asks, “Are you ready to elect a woman as President?”

    Survey results.

    Sure, but not that lying [edit] – leads with 55%

    coupled with 11% saying flat no.

    means a supermajority of Bing homepage visitors would like for Hillary to recuse herself from any public office requiring honesty, integrity, or keeping ones word.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  19. “She is woman, hear her bore; Cackling loud from shore to shore…”

    Decidely unmemorable. Given the history of the moment, she did quite the injustice dumping such a load of fertilizer. MSNBC’s Joy Reid insisted HRC was both ‘strong and soft.’ You know, like toilet paper.

    This entire convention has been the last great homage to the 1970’s. All that was missing was a speech from a pet rock and a film about lava lamps.

    A party that opens its convention showcasing illegal aliens as featured speakers on national TV, coast-to-coast, is not a party good for America at this time.

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. So that it’s understood, my admission of defeats that I thought for sure that Hlllary! would acknowledge the reason why she is so vastly unpopular. I was wrong.

    Game on.
    JVW (f97acd) — 7/28/2016 @ 10:10 pm

    She will never acknowledge any such thing.

    Which doesn’t bother me. I don’t care if she acknowledges the justice of it when it comes.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  21. If you don’t vote for trump you are voting for hillary!
    donn (d44b94) — 7/28/2016 @ 11:58 pm

    No sh*tbird I’m working for the down ballot candidates you Trumptards won’t.

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/07/13/well-id-like-them-to-do-that-but-i-dont-mind-being-a-free-agent-either/

    If your boyfriend who you’d like to go skinny dipping in the hotel hot tub gets his way he’ll be making deals with Chuck Schumer. I don’t want that to happen no matter your crush on your boyfriend.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/trump-ive-always-had-a-good-relationship-with-nancy-pelosi-and-was-close-to-chuck-schumer-in-many-ways/

    Somebody has to save the country from you and your NYC lib dem fake Republican. That would be me.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  22. Also, for the record (Pat, I believe that’s you, the record keeper) my opposition to Trump isn’t that he can not win. He can win. That’s when I have a problem with him. My problem is if he does.

    And I can hear it now. “Hillary! will be worse.” So what! Yes, stage four cancer is worse than chronic hear disease. Doesn’t mean I am rooting for heart disease.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  23. 4-1 0n $200.00= $800
    Let it ride on Trump

    mg (31009b)

  24. Curious. What it is it with you Trumptard jerkoffs?

    You act like if Trump wins that that means he isn’t the @$$hole he’s always been and still is.

    Note: I never said he can’t win. He can win. But he’ll still be he same @$$hole he’s always been.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  25. Welcome to the Great American Unity Dumpster Fire of 2016.

    Also known as the flaming red @$$hole of social cohesion.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  26. Out of the ruins
    Out from the wreckage
    Can’t make the same mistake this time

    We are the children
    The last generation
    We are the ones they left behind

    And I wonder we are ever gonna change it
    Living under the fear till nothing else remains

    We don’t need another hero
    We don’t need to know the way home
    All we want is life beyond
    the Thunderdome

    Looking for something
    we can rely on
    There’s got to be something better out there

    Love and compassion,
    their day is coming
    All else are castles built in the air

    And I wonder we are ever gonna change it
    Living under the fear till nothing else remains

    All the children say
    We don’t need another hero
    We don’t need to know the way home
    All we want is life beyond
    the Thunderdome

    What do we do with our lives
    We leave only a mark
    Will our story shine like a life
    Or end in the dark
    Give it all or nothing

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  27. mg can apparently die happy as long as his last vision is Trump’s @$$ when Der Donald flushes and he starts circling the bowl.

    I, alas, am not quite the team player mg happens to be.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  28. or papertiger.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  29. I am rooting for your heart disease.

    mg (31009b)

  30. Just playing along with JVW’s previous post, a-hole.

    mg (31009b)

  31. thank. you.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  32. welcome

    mg (31009b)

  33. A serious attempt at weighing the cause of our lawless society:

    http://www.nysun.com/national/momentum-is-with-trump-as-hillary-is-stranded/89667/

    Gifted from DC thru to our local courts by those who and adjudicate, who make the rules and elide them, lawyers.

    May your neighborhoods be overrun and burned.

    DNF (755a85)

  34. “Let’s Work Together” by Canned Bleat

    Together we’ll stand
    Divided in groups
    Come on now, sheeple
    Let’s rally teh troops
    And work together
    Come on, come on
    Let’s work together
    Now, now sheeple
    Because together we will stand
    Every girl, boy and transgendered man
    Sheeple, when things go wrong
    Like some of you think
    Don’t you fret my pretties
    Let’s have a few drinks
    Let’s work together
    Come on, come on
    Let’s work together, ah
    You know together we will stand
    Every girl, boy, and transgendered man
    Oh well now, two or three minutes
    Will seems like hours
    What does it matter now
    Cuz I got teh power
    Let’s work together
    Come on, come on
    Let’s work together
    Now, now people
    Because together we will stand
    Every girl, boy and transgendered man

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  35. Steve57 (2d3b12) :

    In January, 2017, regardless of down ticket, either Trump or Hillary will be sworn in to issue Executive Orders.

    cedarhill (dec9ad)

  36. Crystal Blue Blue Pantsuit Persuasion

    Look over yonder
    What do you see?
    A sheeple divided
    Most definitely
    A new dawn is comin’, whoo-hoo
    Sheeple are changin’
    Ain’t it doodie full, whoo-hoo
    Blue Pantsuit Persuasion

    Better get ready
    Don’tcha put up a fight
    Blue, blue is teh answer, whoo-hoo
    Now walk to teh light
    So just give it up now, whoo-hoo
    It’s so easy to find
    Just move to teh Left now (move to teh Left)
    And empty your mind

    Blue Pantsuit Persuasion
    Mm-hmm
    It’s a new vibration
    Blue Pantsuit Persuasion
    Pantsuit
    Blue Persuasion

    Maybe tomorrow
    A smile upside down
    On every Blue Rube, whoo-hoo
    And every clown
    All of his children
    In every nation
    There’ll be empty souls
    All assholes
    Blue Pantsuit Persuasion
    Yeah

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  37. ugh why do we have to work with trannies

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. Just move to teh Left now (move to teh Left)
    And empty your mind

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/29/2016 @ 5:41 am

    Oh my, that’s good.

    Eric in Hollywood (6e8226)

  39. Why do I get the feeling happyfeet complaining about Trannies is like Pentecostals or Seventh Day Adventists complaining about Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    urbanleftbehind (810412)

  40. urbanleftbehind (810412) — 7/29/2016 @ 6:22 am

    More like a Scientologist bitching about the Moonies

    Eric in Hollywood (6e8226)

  41. Aw, ffffff…er cryin’ out loud! What? Have we been going around in circles all this time? If Hillary din’t suck (the chrome off every trailer hitch in Little Rock), we wouldn’t care which 70-year old closet queen with a combover and an “R” after his name wanted to move into the White House with his Slovenian beard. We’d just go “Ho hum, I guess it’s Hillary, are your parents coming for Thanksgiving?”

    nk (dbc370)

  42. Re; nuclear war> Ann Althouse notes it is Hillary Clinton who is the one who has been accused of getting violent (and angry)

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  43. I always found Chelsea Handler, and that ilk, rather pathetic in their dogged attempts to will Tom Cruise gay.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  44. While I respect your view, I merely ask that you read this:

    Yes, #NeverTrumpers, You Are In Fact Morally Responsible for the Hillary Clinton Presidency You’re Agitating For

    Sorry, I was on Twitter. I felt it was necessary to dispel the widely-held myth, adored by #NeverTrumpers, that somehow attacking Trump relentlessly does not aid Hillary Clinton, and that they are not choosing Hillary Clinton by choosing to be NeverTrump.

    All choices have consequences. By supporting Trump, I am responsible for the consequences of a Trump victory — and those consequences could indeed be dire.

    But a childish morally-unserious fantasy has infected the #NeverTrump not-so-intellgentsia, that they can agitate for Hillary Clinton — by relentlessly disparaging Trump — and somehow, they are not responsible for the consequences of the Hillary presidency they are bucking for.

    They’ve dreamed up this self-pleasing, responsibility-evading dreamscape in which those who plump for Trump are responsible for the outcomes of a Trump presidency, but, for no explanation thusfar discoverable, they are not responsible for the outcomes of the Hillary presidency they’re agitating for.

    I tried to explain to them that there is no such thing as a consequence-free choice — all choices have consequences, both on the upside and the downside — and both the upside and downswide consequences must be considered by any adult, intellectually-serious person in making his choice.

    But they like this idea that, like little children, they are free to gambol and play in the fields and this does not even perturb the leading edge of a butterfly’s wing, and so they just keep teling me “No you’re wrong” without saying why I’m wrong.

    Which, seriously, is a rather important part of any argument beginning with the words “You’re wrong.”

    I ask people: When you knocked Obama in 2012, and wrote posts and comments noting his flaws, did you think you were doing nothing to improve Mitt Romney’s chances of winning the presidency?

    If so– why the fuck did you bother?

    Of course, this is silly; everyone knows that when one buys ads attacking a candidate, one is helping that candidate’s opponent win.

    The #NeverTrumpers are filling their blogs, magazines, and Twitter timelines with nonstop political advertising (free) against Trump, and maintain, just because they say so and because it pleases them to think so, this does exactly nothing to help Hillary, and they are therefore not responsibe for her election.

    Or let me put it this way: I am not hoping for Trump to get into some serious international snafu by supporting him. Yet I know that is a very real possibility if he’s president.

    Should this happen, I can’t just say “But I didn’t want trump to screw up so badly.”

    People would say — no, but you knew the risks in supporting him, and you supported him anyway; you are therefore morally responsible for this.

    Yet the #NeverTrumpers claim that the obvious, inescapable outcome of their position — that Hillary Clinton will be the president — is not their responsibility, just because they didn’t intend that as a pirmary matter.

    No, but they were completely aware it was the natural and inevitable consequence of their position.

    So why would a Trump supporter be responsible for a foreign policy catastrophe he didn’t even know for a fact would happen, when a #NeverTrumper claims to be innocent of the Hillary Presidency they know beyond a shadow of any doubt is the direct and inescapable consequence of the NeverTrump posiition?

    They’re responsible for it. They don’t want to be, but they are.

    I don’t particularly want to be on the hook for a Trump presidency, but, being a morally serious person who has not yet delegated my thinking to the Twitter Hivemind, I recognize that by taking the action of lending him my support, I am responsible for the conseqyences of that act.

    Why do the childish #NeverTrumpers mewl that they, alone in the universe, are not responsiblee for the consequences of their own choices?

    I understand the #NeverTrump impulse. I’ve expressed it myself. After Trump’s boorish, vulgar, half-insane attack on Cruz’s wife, I announced “I’m done” with Trump and vowed to never vote for him.

    I understand #NeverTrump, emotionally. I think there’s merit in the position.

    However, we have difficult choices to make. And difficult choices should be treated as what they are — difficult, hard choices requiring moral seriousness and rigorous cost-benefit analysis.

    They should not be made –artificially and falsely — into easy-breezy decisions where one just says “I will do everything I can to make sure Trump is defeated, and I shall never give a thought to the prospect of a Hillary presidency, and I should never allow my shoulders to feel the burden of the consequences of the choice I am making.”

    Real men — and tough-minded women — do not go fleeing tough choices by simply hallucinating an “Officer Dimes, please come and save me” miracle solution.

    Either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be president in November.

    If you think Hillary would be a better president — or if Trump is so repulsive to you you cannot support him even if you think Hillary would be worse — fine. I respect your opinion.

    We all have different brains. We all have different priorities.

    But what I must insist you cannot do — what i will not permit you to do — is fantasize that while a Trump supporter is resonsible for the gaffes and disasters of a President Trump, you are somehow innocent of the purges and witchhunts of a President Hillary.

    Trump supporters will own the consequences of a Trump presidency — and Hillary supporters, both those who declare it proudly and those who wish it secretly — own the consequences of a Hillary presidency.

    Adults accept the consequences of their choices.

    Only children run from them, or cross their fingers behind their backs and claim that’s a charm insulating them from the consequences of their choices.

    Some decisions are hard. They should be respected as being hard.

    And no, Officer Dimes is not coming to save you from the dilemma you face.

    Steve_in_SoCal (58e1f9)

  45. Why do you think Trump’s father put him military school and was hiring escorts to go out with him? Or maybe high school age kids in military school are able to find arm candy on their own?

    And that “bones in the heel” that excused him from the draft? Yeah, right.
    Draft board: Donald, do you honestly think you could kill a man?
    Donnie: Yes (giggles) but it would take days.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. It’s all in the delivery, JVW.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  47. Steve in SoCal:

    We’re in SoCal.

    Pardon my language, but:

    We aren’t responsible for shit.

    We can vote for the orange con man all day long and it won’t make a dent.

    Ace has worked himself up into a lather in recent days, sometimes insulting his long-time friends over this, but the fact remains that he once pledged that he would not vote for Marco Rubio if he were the nominee.

    Not voting, or writing in an impossible candidate like Ted Cruz, is an option. That’s the option I’ll take.

    But none of our votes matter anyway. All the angst over how we vote…it’s a little over the top, really.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  48. Ace has worked himself up into a lather in recent days, sometimes insulting his long-time friends over this, but the fact remains that he once pledged that he would not vote for Marco Rubio if he were the nominee.

    My memory may be faulty here, but I seem to recall that some of the GOP nominee’s most fervent supporters — those who are now demanding that the rest of us fall into line — were threatening to sit out the election if the GOP nominated Jeb Bush. But again, my memory may be faulty in my old age.

    JVW (f97acd)

  49. So we all agree. Civil war is on the way.

    Ingot (1de9ec)

  50. ugh why do we have to work with trannies

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/29/2016 @ 5:58 am

    Because that’s how the power the engine produces gets to the drive wheels.

    Or are we talking about different kinds of trannies?

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  51. yes yes we’re talking about the self-mutilating weirdo kind

    UGH

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. 45. He would lock the election up and nab NY and CA if he admitted to that. More upside than less.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  53. In January, 2017, regardless of down ticket, either Trump or Hillary will be sworn in to issue Executive Orders.

    cedarhill (dec9ad) — 7/29/2016 @ 5:14 am

    Yes. I look forward to voting for how rapidly everything will fall to s***. In anticipation of that festive occasion I bought a beginner’s celestial navigation kit (the USN is actually bringing that back as you can’t always count on GPS) and…

    http://www.landfallnavigation.com/kcnb.html

    … the Celestial Navigation Simplified DVD does actually feature William F. Buckley. Not like they hide that fact but I missed he detail and was pleasantly surprised. It’s too bad what happened to National Review after he departed, sorta like it’s too bad what happened to Breitbart.com after Andrew Breitbart departed.

    Anyhoo, as you can see, me and the 10 gauge are getting ready for whatever comes in January 2017.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  54. “24. You act like if Trump wins that that means he isn’t the @$$hole he’s always been and still is.”

    Don’t care. We. do. not. care. about this, or about all the things the nevertrumpers want us to care about.

    Keeping out illegal immigrants in an ahole way? Fine.
    Keeping out illegal immigrants in a polite way? Fine.

    Cutting down un-vetted Muslim immigration in an ahole way? Fine.
    Cutting down un-vetted Muslim immigration in a polite way? Fine.

    Picking conservative (or at least non-flaming-liberal) judges in an ahole way? Fine.
    Picking conservative (or at least non-flaming-liberal) judges in a polite way? Fine.

    Notice in every case, we care about the ACTION, not the way he holds his mouth.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  55. 45. nk (dbc370) — 7/29/2016 @ 7:18 am

    Why do you think Trump’s father put him military school and was hiring escorts to go out with him?

    He put him in military school because he was afraid he was a discipline problem. he hired escorts because he was afraid his son would become a homosexual at an all boys school. He wanted to gte him started on something else first.

    Joseph P. Kennedy had the same thinking, and he made his two oldest sons into philanderers.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  56. Hillary Clinton cited Franklin Delano Roosevelt against Donald Trump:

    He [Donald Trump] wants us to fear the future and fear each other.

    Well, a great Democratic President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, came up with the perfect rebuke to Trump more than eighty years ago, during a much more perilous time.

    “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

    That was about economic panic – bank runs.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  57. @56, quoting Franklin Delano Internment Camp, that’s going to leave a mark.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  58. I don’t even like Trump, but I’d be surprised if he can’t hit this one out of the park.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  59. Patterico, a man with this thing we like to call a ‘platform’, decides that his best use of that platform is spreading generalized apathy among the few readers who still respect him. SORRY, BUT TRUMP VOTERS HAVE BIGGER HEARTS THAT THAT!

    ‘Folks, we not only have to win, we have to win so big that we blow through the margin of fraud and give Trump an effective mandate to end the Washington cartel forever! VOTE, tell your friends and family to VOTE, wear your Trump hat in public, and overcome the nasty residual political correctness in everyday affairs by showing your American gang colors at every opportunity, giving fearful people both the feeling of having allies and a willingness to speak out! Making America Great Again does not START or END on election day, we’re taking this country back a piece at a time every day before and after!’

    That was off the cuff, by the way, maybe you #NeverTrumpers can do better with like a day of research and preparation.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  60. 57 Steve57 (2d3b12) — 7/29/2016 @ 5:29 pm

    .@56, quoting Franklin Delano Internment Camp, that’s going to leave a mark.

    She quoted him out of context, worse than many ministers quote the Bible.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  61. Actually, once, at a graduation ceremony for a girl’s high school, in the year 2000 when she was running for the Senate, I heard Hillary Clinton basically misquote the Bible (the Rabbi didn’t really perceive it) protecting herself by claiming to have found the passage herself. (Deut. 31:12) She also spoke of recently going through the papers of a friend who died together with Bill Clinton (clearly Diane D. Blair, and looking to see if there was something too revealing that needed to remove, like about Cattlegate for instance. They left some stuff there, which became public many years later)

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)

  62. The reason I think that she said something about she and Bill going through Diane Blair’s papers after she died was to put it on the record somewhere in the middle of her collected speeches so that nobody would be able to say they kept it a secret. But they did, really. And they certainly didn’t say they removed anything extremely harmful, or would have if they found it.

    Sammy Finkelman (7fce49)


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