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7/28/2016

Melania Trump Scrubs Website After Being Caught in a Lie About Her Personal History

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:44 am

Scrub:

The professional website of Melania Trump, wife of the Republican presidential nominee, has apparently been deleted from the internet as of Wednesday afternoon.

The disappearance of Trump’s elaborate website comes just days after news outlets, including The Huffington Post, raised serious questions about whether she actually earned an undergraduate degree in architecture from the University of Ljubljana, which is in Trump’s native Slovenia. Her online biography claimed she had, but a book about her life published earlier this year says she left the university after one year so she could pursue a modeling career.

Melania Trump, an adult, put herself in the spotlight by giving a speech at the GOP convention in which she plagiarized Michelle Obama’s speech. (Melania laundered Obama’s words through a Trump stooge who was somehow made to seem the guilty party, because the plagiarized words passed across the stooge’s desk after coming from Melania and then returning to Melania — who delivered the lifted passages knowing they were Michelle Obama’s.)

Melania Trump’s accomplishments include being a reasonably pretty woman who married a rich old white con artist, knowingly plagiarizing a speech, and now lying about her educational record. Commence treating me as if I am the jerk for noticing.

P.S. No, Trumpers, this is hardly that important a story. Trump’s and Clinton’s lies matter far more. As you go searching for a sufficiently large rock with which to stone me, contemplate how you have studiously focused on The Real Issues over the years, never once saying a word about Michelle Obama, ever. Your selfless dedication to sticking to The Real Issues is nothing short of a miracle, dear Trumpers, and a testament to what great people you truly are!

192 Responses to “Melania Trump Scrubs Website After Being Caught in a Lie About Her Personal History”

  1. I still remember like it was yesterday, how when Michelle Obama said she was proud of this country for the first time in her life, you, dear Trumper with the stone in his hand, wagged your finger at all of us and said: “Leave Baracky’s fambly out of it!” That’s what you said, and I won’t soon forget your steadfast devotion to the Things That Really Matter.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. I like Melania she has pizazzle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Still. Either Trump or Clinton will be appointing SCOTUS members until 2020.

    cedarhill (dec9ad)

  4. Why wouldn’t Melania have claimed to be a college graduate? The Donald claimed Ivana was an alternate to the Czech Olympic ski team. Calls to the organization yielded the information that they had never heard of her.

    https://theolympians.co/tag/ivana-trump/

    bitterclinger (8367b1)

  5. didn’t Liam Neeson lose his wife in a tragic skiing accident?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. I like Melania she has pizazzle

    That is a bold position you have staked out. I’m not sure what I admire about you most: your soft wool, or your docile demeanor while it is being sheared.

    Patterico (5a5600)

  7. Melania would be a ground-breaking first lady Mr. P

    that job’s gotten WAY over-credentialed you ask me

    Melania’s gonna be the first lady of The People!

    and you can’t wave that away like it’s a buzzy buzzy zika mosquito

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. Melania ought to have claimed to have been a Poli Sci major at Columbia with Barack during the early ’80s.
    That way, the MSM would never in a million years attempt to confirm such a story! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  9. Melania would be a ground-breaking first lady Mr. P

    that job’s gotten WAY over-credentialed you ask me

    Melania’s gonna be the first lady of The People!

    and you can’t wave that away like it’s a buzzy buzzy zika mosquito

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/28/2016 @ 8:24 am

    yes yes should would!

    she will be great!

    as a woman she knows her place

    trump makes sure of that

    just look pretty for the people

    especially those goldy sackies!

    can’t waive that away

    no sir, can’t waive that away as her husband destroys the country

    making hand waiving great again.

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  10. But she can say “100 Euros plus 50 for the room and 10 for the cabdriver” in four languages.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. It’s still not too late for Trump to get a hotter, younger, more honest wife.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  12. Any cocktail waitress in one of his casinos or hotel bars fits that description.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. “Any cocktail waitress in one of his casinos or hotel bars fits that description.”

    Well, we’re finally in agreement.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  14. We now know more about Melania’s education that we ever had of Barack’s. I appreciate Mr. P’s position, but we are going to have to vote for someone and to date the Donald far surpasses the Hill.

    bald01 (f38852)

  15. Now she wouldn’t be the first person to pad her resume.

    But … it is dishonest. It is what it is.

    Does it compare to Barack Obama’s dishonesty (Ayers, etc.) or Hillary Clinton’s (a list too long to remember)? No.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  16. but we are going to have to vote for someone and to date the Donald far surpasses the Hill.

    And some of us will never forgive the people that brought us to this point.

    #NeverForgive

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. P.S. No, Trumpers, this is hardly that important a story. Trump’s and Clinton’s lies matter far more. As you go searching for a sufficiently large rock with which to stone me, contemplate how you have studiously focused on The Real Issues over the years, never once saying a word about Michelle Obama, ever. Your selfless dedication to sticking to The Real Issues is nothing short of a miracle, dear Trumpers, and a testament to what great people you truly are!

    So the point of this actually has nothing to do with Melania, it’s about Trumpers. Whatever.

    Gerald A (945582)

  18. Trump Humpers can go swim in an arsenic lake, for all I care. If they were on fire, I wouldn’t even take the time to stop and spit on them.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  19. All I’ve said about Michelle Obama is that she looks much much prettier when she smiles. Unfortunately that is rare.

    Oh, and she also chooses dresses with colors and styles that do not work for her healthy, athletic body type and dark skin tone.

    Ingot (5ac1de)

  20. I still like her better than Heidi Cruz.

    Boris (df2ca4)

  21. Melania laundered Obama’s words through a Trump stooge who was somehow made to seem the guilty party, because the plagiarized words passed across the stooge’s desk after coming from Melania and then returning to Melania — who delivered the lifted passages knowing they were Michelle Obama’s.)

    But we don’t know who supplied them to her in the first place, because I don’t think she was a big admirer of Michelle Obama. And she’s probably not big on doing her own research.

    Now, Melania, or whoever supplied it, wasn’t much of a Republican either, or they would have looked to thw speeches of previous Republican nominees for president, and would not have thought the speech of Michelle Obama was a good precedent to work from.

    I suppose it’s possible Melania might have felt that if it was OK to use a ghostwriter, then it was equally OK to re-use ideas and phrases, and anyway it could be true she picked out lines from the speech that she liked and that the speechwriter did not understand those words were not hers, and if she had, she wouldn’t have used them only slightly altered in the speech.

    …woman who married a rich old white con artist, knowingly plagiarizing a speech, and now lying about her educational record

    Lying about her educational record actually came first, although very likely on account of Donald Trump’s advice.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  22. I think this is a more (although still not very) important story than the ‘plagiarism’ speech story.

    To my perspective, this sheds more light to integrity. Plagiarism is about proper credit for creation and ownership of ideas. I don’t think anyone can honestly claim that Michelle owned ‘your word is your bond’ or ‘treat people with the respect they deserve’ or what ever the pablum was, every American with a responsible parent heard that from them, including both Michelle, Melania and me. Pablum can’t be plagiarized. There was no original idea, in either Michelle or Melania’s speeches.

    If Melania has been systematically misrepresenting fairly material facts and qualifications about her life, that colors integrity, and I would be curious whether she deceived Donald, or Donald knew. Did she ever professionally use the degree? Has she ever been the architect of any project inappropriately? That said, I don’t think anyone would think Donald’s interest and appreciation for Melania is rooted in the presence or absence of an architecture degree from Lubljana.

    If the character of integrity of candidate’s spouses is an issue…I think resume padding a degree is materially less bad the serial sexual assault, harassment and rape by candidate Clinton’s spouse. I think we all need to put some ice on that.

    noway (2640f4)

  23. So the point of this actually has nothing to do with Melania, it’s about Trumpers. Whatever.

    Gerald A (945582) — 7/28/2016 @ 9:08 am

    That’s not what Patterico said and you full well know it.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  24. That’s not what Patterico said and you full well know it.

    Bill H (971e5f) — 7/28/2016 @ 9:25 am

    He said this isn’t important, but then Trumpers.

    Gerald A (945582)

  25. cedarhill (dec9ad) — 7/28/2016 @ 8:05 am

    Either Trump or Clinton will be appointing SCOTUS members until 2020.

    There is a possibilty none of the vacancies might be filled.

    If the Republicans retain a majority none of Hillary Clinton’s nominees will be confirmed because Mitch McConnell won’t allow anyone committed to overturning Citizens United to go on the court if he can help it, even if ieans we have 3 vacancies.

    Of course, we have to understand that if a Democrat if president and the Democrats gain a majority in the Senate the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees will disappear. It might not be understood, but if this is, and the Republicans lost control of the Senate they might confirm Merrick Garland in the lame duck session, and theer might not be anotehr vacancy in the next two years.

    If the Democrats gain amajority in the Senate in the 2016 elections, they will probably lose it again in the 2018 electipns, both because the Democratic vote is higher in Presidnetial elections and because 25 seats now held by Democrats will be up but this is more likely if Hillary is president.

    If Trump is elected, the filibuster rule will remain, and the Democrats, whether they get a majority or not, will prevent the confirmation of a strict conservative. Trump’s first appointmet will be one of those on his list. If that doesn’t go through, and it won’t if the Republicans lose their majority in the Senate, he would probably negotiate an appointment with Senator Schumer.

    So to summarize: If Hillary is elected, and the Republicans retain control of the Senate no nominee of hers will be confirmed. If the Democrats get a majority, they will be confirmed but only in 2017 or 2018. If Trump is elected, his first conservative nonination will fail, either to a filibuster or a Democratic majority, but some compromise candidate will be worked out.

    The only way a conservative justice will be appointed is if:

    1) A Republican president

    2) nominates a conservarive

    and

    3) There is a Republican majority in the Senate

    and

    4) The filbuster rule is one.

    Possible exception: Two justices, one a liberal, one more conservative, are appointed at the same time by a Republican president, as a package deal.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  26. Well, fwiw,
    I can see Trump making a snarky comment about the public knowing more about melania’s education thn Obama’s, even after 7+ years of his presidency
    and seeing the left go apoplectic yet again
    as they did with the invocation of the Russian were-bear

    he does know how to dominate a news cycle

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  27. No, Sammy, if Hillary is elected she’ll get nominees on the Supreme Court just fine. The politics of holding out for 4 years on the most visible court are too horrible.

    You can get away with keeping people off the Appellate courts and the Dems did and the Repubs did to a lesser extent. But the Supremes are too high profile and Obama proved it with Sotomayor and Kagan.

    Ingot (e5bf64)

  28. He said this isn’t important, but then Trumpers.

    Gerald A (945582) — 7/28/2016 @ 9:31 am

    Gerald, he said it wasn’t a really important story, but that Trumpers will say just about anything to cover for their Golden Boy. By extension, that means Melania.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  29. Actually, Melania Trump’s online biography did not claim that she “earned an undergraduate degree in architecture from the University of Ljubljana”. HuffPost is mistaken abut that. Her online biography said that she earned “a degree in design and architecture at University in Slovenia . Of course, that could still be false, so there’s no need for HuffPost to stretch the facts (I guess old habits are hard to break). As far as I can tell, Melania could come up with a degree from any of these places to prove her claim:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Slovenia

    But I doubt she can do that, so let’s eclipse Hillary’s speech with a Melania controversy!!! :-)

    Andrew (b12b60)

  30. Red wiuen has looted at least three countries one in each continent, but never mind.

    narciso (732bc0)

  31. Meanwhile, there isn’t an MSM’er who can find anyone who attended Poli Sci classes with Barack at Columbia. How strange.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  32. Well, I can see Patterico, one time Republican, one time Conservative, current traitor, is working hard to get Hillary elected.

    So much for voting one’s conscience and studying the issues and making informed choices.

    Now he’s just another tabloid idiot indulging in the politics of personal destruction.

    A big thrill up the leg, isn’t it, Patterico.

    PTS (b6849f)

  33. Anyone who believes Trump is a good choice (not the better of two truly evil people, but an actual good choice) is not in the least Conservative. If I stepped in one, I would scrape it off my shoe and then disinfect my shoe.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  34. Mr. Trump is the most conservative choice cause of stinkypig wants to redistribute all your star wars and get rid of uber

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. Mr. Trump is the most conservative choice cause of stinkypig wants to redistribute all your star wars and get rid of uber

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/28/2016 @ 11:12 am

    yes yes

    The Don will get redistribute jobs and get rid of apple, and that pesky first amendment

    he’ll even get those goldy sacks their money

    so much better and so much conservative

    making tariffs great again

    sadfeet (ddead1)

  36. Allow me to quote Patterico.

    “F U, happyfeet.”

    Thus concludes another quotation of Patterico.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  37. Melania is a fabulist. Donald is a fabulist. Hillary is a fabulist. Wouldn’t you like to be a fabulist, too?

    Mike (6cce3b)

  38. So, tell me something PTS- just how hard are you working to get Trump elected? Not very, I’m gonna bet. Calling someone a traitor in complete ignorance is far, far easier than actually campaigning and trying to convince someone to vote for your preferred candidate. Protip, dumbf*ck- calling us traitors does nothing to convince us we should vote Trump. You would do well to pick up a dictionary before you hurl an epithet like that.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  39. There once was a bitch named Melania;
    Who learned plagiarism in Slovinia;
    It’s her figure they’ll oogle;
    Her words they won’t Google;
    That she swiped;
    From the wife;
    Of the President from Kenya.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  40. ah yes the puffington host, a den of scum and villainy that endorsed vaccine denial, trig denialism an early version of bds, lets take their word for it,

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. Bill H,

    Do you think that Hillary’s Supreme Court nominees will be more conservative than Trump’s?
    I’m just asking.
    I know that a lot of paleo-conservatives trust Hillary. Maybe it’s a pattern. I don’t see it, but maybe that’s a “me” problem.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  42. Melania Trump’s accomplishments include being a reasonably pretty woman who married a rich old white con artist, knowingly plagiarizing a speech, and now lying about her educational record.

    So, if I’m hearing you right, you’re saying Melania has more qualifications to be president than Hillary.

    arik (02de93)

  43. Do you think that Hillary’s Supreme Court nominees will be more conservative than Trump’s?
    I’m just asking.

    Direct answer, CS- no, I do not. My problem is I don’t trust Trump to select SC judges that will uphold, defend and protect the Constitution, either. If he were to make noises about putting Cruz or equivalent on the bench, I might change my mind.

    See, PTS? THIS is how you try to get me to come over to your thinking.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  44. Please rank the following individuals for their pizazzle, or any other redeeming quality, for that matter.
    Bernie
    Carly
    Carson
    Christie
    Gilmore?
    Graham
    Hill
    Huck
    Jeb!
    Jindal
    Kasich
    Melania
    Pataki
    Perry
    Rand
    Rubio
    Santorum
    Shorty
    Walker
    With one notable exclusion, that was the field. In my ranking, Melania gets at least an honorable mention. How ‘bout yours?

    ThOR (c9324e)

  45. Bill H,

    At this point, it’s not a question of who will nominate judges to defend and protect the Constitution.
    Rather, it’s a matter of who is best among the remaining available choices.
    I’d like to vote for Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, or Ronald Reagan, but none of them is on the ballot.

    When you’re stranded in the desert, you’re likely not going to have access to your favorite flavor of chilled Gatorade on ice. Your best choice may be lukewarm Diet Dr Pepper.
    But that’s better than nothing, right?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  46. CS, your desert word-picture needs some tinkering.

    You’re stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and there is no water around. Your choices are:

    Green anti-freeze
    Battery acid
    Gasoline

    Pick one of those and drink a liter of it.

    That’s the word-picture we’re dealing with, not hot diet prune juice.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  47. 27. Ingot (e5bf64) — 7/28/2016 @ 10:02 am

    No, Sammy, if Hillary is elected she’ll get nominees on the Supreme Court just fine. The politics of holding out for 4 years on the most visible court are too horrible.

    Well, the Democrats did it for 6 years in New Jersey, until Governor Christie finally caved in and negotiated a compromise candidate with the Democrats, about 6 weeks after endorsing Donald Trump for president.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/04/christie_democrats_strike_deal_on_nj_supreme_court_nominee.html

    If she’s openly declaring that she has a litmus test for nominees to the United States Supreme Court, and the litmus test is agreeing to overturn Citizens United, the Republicans will hold out, but she might back off from that. So long as she sticks to that litmus test, they’ll have aperfect case for not vcconfirming. They’ll say that the Democrats would not confirm anyone who was committed to overturning Roe v Wade.

    The other way she might not nominate someone is if there are no vacancies, which is waht happened with Jimmy Carter. There is one seat vacant now, but the Republicans, if they have sense, would confirm Merrick Garland. (Obama is not going to withdraw the name)

    It’s either confirm Merrick Garland or hold out for 4 years at least, and the possibility of holding out and confirming nobody only exists if there are at least 51 Republican Senators.

    If there’s less, and Hillary is elected, they probably should confrm him late iin the lame duck session. They’d be foolish to imagine the filibuster rule would not be nuked for Supreme Court nominations.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  48. Did you vote for Reagan because of Nancy?

    When did the President’s wife become a factor in the purchase?

    It was the evil on display tonight, wasn’t it?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  49. At this point, it’s not a question of who will nominate judges to defend and protect the Constitution.
    Rather, it’s a matter of who is best among the remaining available choices.
    I’d like to vote for Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, or Ronald Reagan, but none of them is on the ballot.

    But I don’t understand- why is it I must choose between these two grifters? And since you were tho one that posited the question about who would choose the more conservative judges, I thought my answer appropriate.

    Nobody said anything about Coolidge or Reagan being on the ballot. I’m quite well aware of that. I’m answering for the current race. As it stands, I’ve chosen to vote neither. I believed telling you that if Trump starts talking about Cruz for the SC, that would be palliative enough. I guess not.

    Unfortunately, your analogy doesn’t work for me either. Being on dialysis, I can’t drink much Gatorade- too much potassium.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  50. It was Mrs Clinton lying through her teeth to all of us, covering up for therapist husband.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. Proved just how useful a first lady can be.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  52. #47 John Hitchcock,

    Do you attend a Four-Square Church, or something?
    Your analogy that come next January 20 we’re all going to DIE is just moonbat histrionics. Stop, please.
    The earth is not going to be wiped out by a biblical plague if either Trump or Hillary is elected.
    Settle down with the hysteria.

    Trump will be less worse than Hillary. So that’s why I’m voting for him.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  53. Trump will be less worse than Hillary. So that’s why I’m voting for him.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/28/2016 @ 1:33 pm

    And that’s OK. You’ve made the calculation and it works for you.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  54. Screw that. I’m voting to defeat Hillary.

    It’s just good luck that that means voting for Trump.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  55. #50 Bill H,

    This is like the Twilight Zone …
    … what do you mean you don’t understand why you have to choose between Trump and Hillary?!
    Uh, because they’re on the ballot, dude!

    This is not like going to restaurant, looking at the menu, then deciding, “Oh honey, it’s too expensive,” or “I don’t like the menu — let’s go somewhere else!”

    The names on the ballot in November are the choices for the next President. You don’t get to be exempt from their governance the same way you can just walk out of a bad restaurant.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  56. #56 Bill H,

    I didn’t mean to put everything in ‘bold.’

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  57. when they insist it’s about one thing, it’s really about something else,

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2126828-exclusive-infamous-hacker-detox-ransome-stole-democrat-databases-in-2015/

    what exactly was the puffington host’s purpose in pulling on this one thread, when there’s a ball of yard, the size of a ferris wheel, re the emails,

    narciso (732bc0)

  58. I am not a FourSquare member, but End Times Prophecy is a real deal. It will happen. It’s just a matter of when it will happen. As surely as there is oxygen in dihydrogen monoxide, the End Times Prophecy is a fact.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  59. of course, but I think Matthew 24 still is dominant, to think it’s right around the corner, breeds discontent,

    narciso (732bc0)

  60. i abjure End Times Prophecy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. one fears that it might be a ways off, which would make this lost world, even harder a pill to swallow, when you have a faith which is antithetical to every jesus preached, and the world surrenders more and more to it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  62. “I’d like to vote for Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, or Ronald Reagan, but none of them is on the ballot.”

    – Cruz Supporter

    You forgot Cruz, “Cruz Supporter.”

    It’s okay – now you get to support Trump openly!

    Leviticus (efada1)

  63. In the Pantheon of lies that are worth talking about this year, Melania’s alleged lie is about No 1000 in a small plastic case in the back.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (5e0a82)

  64. I’m sure Melania was disappointed to realize that the real reason Trump built hotels was so that he could do all the interior decorating for the rooms.

    Disappointed on a number of levels, probably, though likely relieved on at least one.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  65. #63 Leviticus,

    I believed it was obvious I was listing the names of conservatives who actually served as President; Cleveland, Coolidge, and Reagan.
    Ted Cruz has never been President, right?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  66. I’ve followed you, Pat, almost from the very beginning. This may be the the post which most mystifies me.

    Reasonably pretty?!!!!!!

    By this standard, Hillary is a slight prevaricator! OJ had minor jealousy and anger issues. CALPERS is slightly underfunded.

    One very serious point I want to make: Moochelle just got away with lying her patootie off about her feelings and life experience in America. Out of nowhere, she believes in American exceptionalism. I haven’t seen HuffPosts’ report outlining this deception.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  67. That is not the US Supreme Court, Sammy.

    RIF, Reading Is Fundamental.

    Ingot (e5bf64)

  68. Let’s see, that is more than 30,000 violations of the espionage act vs. lying on your resume.

    I know how MSNBC and CNN will score this but NORMAL people might see several orders of magnitude of orders of magnitude in the relative importance of the offenses.

    And I am a Cruz supporter.

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f)

  69. You don’t get it, Cruz Supporter. There’s an oasis that the nevertrumpers are holding out for called The Electoral College and a poison to be named later.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  70. poison is no good

    I like Trump!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  71. it’s like the phony ammunition that christian slater used in heathers, which turned out to be all too real,

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. I didn’t mean to put everything in ‘bold.’

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/28/2016 @ 1:43 pm

    Izzok. Ain’t nothin’ but a thing. .

    Bill H (971e5f)

  73. Election is over guys. Either way we get the same thing.

    Time to relax. No need to fight about Hillary or Trump. It’s unfortunate and it makes me envy the nation in Idiocracy with its President Camacho, who apparently cared about his people.

    And LOL that anyone thought Melania was a graduate. Listen to her talk. She can barely make out the words in Michelle Obama’s speech, let alone come up with ideas like that on her own. Say what you will of America’s higher ed system, but Melania doesn’t pass as a product of it or any competitor. Like Trump’s other wives, she merely and solely has some attractiveness until it ages out of her. And it will. Look at Trump’s other wives. They look like they suffered in Siberia or something… they must have been so miserable. Check out those stories of Donald sexually brutalizing one of his wives. Trump’s lawyer’s best defense is that you technically couldn’t rape your wife in that jurisdiction.

    Yes, in Melania’s short time in the spotlight she has lied to the American people many times. But it’s not like she wanted this. She’s basically property.

    That whole Trump family is incredibly weird. Donald made sexual remarks about his daughter, and of course likes being very hands on with her.

    Trump is pretty sexually obsessed and I don’t think his daddy said no to him enough.

    But cheer up. Trump’s hacktastic fans are going to have quite a fit when the weakest democrat candidate in our lives manages to crush their superman. An incredibly weak Hillary struggling to follow polls is so much better than some wanna be Generalissimo. And if I’m wrong, guess what? Hillary’s voters get to watch as their inevitable and hopelessly corrupt candidate loses to a national punchline!

    We all know our country can do better. Our political parties are failures. It is a blessing that this knowledge is now common.

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl's Jr™!) (ba94b2)

  74. I think we’ve hit a more selective threshhold,

    http://deadline.com/2016/07/dnc-ratings-down-day-3-rnc-barack-obama-americas-got-talent-big-brother-wayward-pines-1201794089/

    the press’s ecstatic treatment tends to obscure the reality,

    narciso (732bc0)

  75. I like Mr. Trump better than a leg-humping stinkypig like Hillary that’s for sure.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  76. Getting to your argument:

    Uh, because they’re on the ballot, dude!

    This is not like going to restaurant, looking at the menu, then deciding, “Oh honey, it’s too expensive,” or “I don’t like the menu — let’s go somewhere else!”

    The names on the ballot in November are the choices for the next President. You don’t get to be exempt from their governance the same way you can just walk out of a bad restaurant.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/28/2016 @ 1:42 pm

    Just who in hell is telling me that I have to pick one or the other? YOU??
    I am a free born man and may make voting decisions any way I feel like. That includes choosing neither. As if you need to be told, this is not something I do too often. I take my voting privileges seriously.

    You keep coming up with these silly analogies. First it was lukewarm Diet Dr Pepper. Now it’s restaurants. Let’s clear all that crap away right now- much as I’m not going to that bad restaurant, I’m not voting for Trump. They both are very likely to give me a case of food poisoning. That is my choice- you cannot coerce me to go there. I’ve heard all the arguments for and against Trump. There are just too damn many against.

    Say, since you seem to be on this kick, do you watch Spongebob Squarepants? You’re looking at Trump and seeing the Krusty Krab. I see the Chum Bucket.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  77. There’s an oasis that the nevertrumpers are holding out for called The Electoral College and a poison to be named later.

    Pinandpuller

    LOL. Yeah, it’s a big conspiracy. Lee Harvey Oswald and Rafael Cruz are involved. Elvis is there! They have a pyramid temple with an eye at the top. It’s pretty sweet.

    Here’s what they want you to think:

    Hillary will win all the swing states because she has this thing called a political campaign operation. She will work hand in hand with downticket candidates, in fact helping them. Trump will have to deal with many downticket Republicans distancing themselves from him. Many even appearing with, say, Ted Cruz.

    No one yet knows what percentage of GOP’s typical voter group hates Hillary more than it fears Trump. Or just is ticked off enough at Trump’s treatment of Cruz’s family, his being an actual democrat, or the rest of the long list, just keep them from showing up to vote.

    Or what if the democrats are really smart and want to win for keeps… then they just have Hillary step aside in September for health reasons. Huh.

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl's Jr™!) (ba94b2)

  78. You don’t get it, Cruz Supporter. There’s an oasis that the nevertrumpers are holding out for called The Electoral College and a poison to be named later.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9) — 7/28/2016 @ 3:25 pm

    Actually dude, it’s you who doesn’t get it. I’m holding out for nothing. My stance is very simply I am not helping you put Trump in the White House. It’s up to you to get up off your ass and put him there.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  79. Bill H,

    Why are you asking people to give you reasons to vote in the Presidential election if your heart is already set on not voting?
    I recognize you don’t have to vote.
    But when you solicit opinions, don’t be surprised (or outraged) when some are given to you.
    Cmon, bud, comment threads at blogs are supposed to be a little fun and entertaining, rather than a trip to the dentist.
    I’d love to vote for a Coolidge/Reagan ticket, but that ain’t happenin’.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  80. Trump is pretty sexually obsessed and I don’t think his daddy said no to him enough.

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl’s Jr™!) (ba94b2) — 7/28/2016 @ 4:01 pm

    Heh- the second coming of JFK.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  81. Bill, he’s certainly earned a spot in the history books. Future generations will not be kind to his dishonest supporters either.

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl's Jr™!) (ba94b2)

  82. Why are you asking people to give you reasons to vote in the Presidential election if your heart is already set on not voting?
    I recognize you don’t have to vote.
    But when you solicit opinions, don’t be surprised (or outraged) when some are given to you.
    Cmon, bud, comment threads at blogs are supposed to be a little fun and entertaining, rather than a trip to the dentist.
    I’d love to vote for a Coolidge/Reagan ticket, but that ain’t happenin’.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/28/2016 @ 4:26 pm

    I wasn’t the one soliciting opinion. You were the one asking what I thought of Hillary’s ability to choose SC nominees. I gave you that opinion. I’m getting a little irritated because you along with a lot of other Trumpers seem to not get I have the right to “vote my conscience”. Maybe you missed it the first time- I told you that your choice to back Trump is yours, and I have no right to demand you change it. I expect the same simple respect from you.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  83. Surely Melania called housekeeping and had maid service scrub her site.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  84. the site is about her designs, it’s dubious anyone would particularly care about her initial credential which she didn’t practice, and besides webarchive keeps the record open,

    get a grip, on what really matters, the dnc was rigging an election through the press serving as enablers, creating a feedback loop, rewarding donors with prospective appointments,

    narciso (732bc0)

  85. Elizabeth Warren …

    Melania exaggerated her accomplishments. The exaggerations had nothing to do with her career. She is a pretty lady and she keeps it that way. Warren, on the other hand, owes her career to her exaggerations. Without the lies, she would never would have had the opportunities granted her, so without the lies, she would be nothing. (Which would be a net gain for the universe.) Melania is still a pretty lady even if she didn’t stay in school long enough to complete her studies.

    You know I’m not a Trump fan, but we need to get a grip on reality.

    I despise Trump because he made war on Cruz’s family. You’ve just joined the Trump club. Congratulations.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  86. #85 Bill H, you wrote,

    “But I don’t understand- why is it I must choose between these two grifters?”

    Since you asked that question in #50, I responded with an answer to why you should vote.
    I apologize if I’ve angered you so much, I just figured we’re all here talking about politics because we want to talk about politics. Nobody’s asking you for your credit card information. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  87. Meanwhile, back in the World of Reality…

    “Donald Trump owned the news media on Day Three of Hillary’s Coronation. He even topped President Obama, who gave a wonderful speech that rallied Democrats behind Her Royal Clintoness. Nevertheless, Trump owned the news cycle.

    He did so by holding a press conference. The press conference is now his favorite format. He is sharp, funny, spontaneous, and quick on the uptake. As is usually the case, at the press conference he fielded more hostile questions from the media in one hour than Hillary has in her entire pampered, Ivy League, first lady life.

    Think about that for a moment. Has any journalist ever confronted her about all those real scandals? The Whitewater swampland real estate deals. Her covering up rapes and sexual harassment by her husband. Her stealing White House furniture. Not once has anyone in the press pressed her for an answer.

    Meanwhile, Trump has to explain why two lines in his wife’s 20-minute speech were similar to a speech Michelle Obama gave eight years ago.

    Throughout her life, the press gave Hillary a pass. Now she pays for that lifelong free ride by being unprepared for this campaign.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/239962/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  88. I wonder how many Hillary! fan boys are feeling loving feelings toward these Democrats who choose to burn American and Israeli flags, while they proudly fly the flags of North Korea and the Palestinians?

    I don’t know about all of youse, but I find that disgusting.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  89. exactly, coronello, they forgot the lesson they should have learned from the gop primaries, pitch yourself don’t talk about the other guy, if needs must,

    narciso (732bc0)

  90. They’re big on questioning the motivation of others, yet have somehow developed a blind spot when it comes to themselves. But if their pontificating and tacit support for the DNC only affected them and not the lives of other Americans, it might simply be characterized as cluelessly amusing and not paving the Road to Tragic Consequences that it is.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  91. I was referring more to the rocket surgeons at the DNC, who have clearly dialed to eleven,

    among our side, it’s a quixotic exercise, virtue signalling on an odd sort,

    narciso (732bc0)

  92. “I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fu*k with me, I’ll kill you all.”

    — General James Mattis

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  93. “Hillary will win all the swing states because she has this thing called a political campaign operation.”

    You are wrong.

    You will acknowledge you are wrong after the election. But you will continue both being wrong and confident about that which you are clearly wrong.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  94. this was a really slow news day the website scrubbing excitement wore off before lunch even

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. Bill H

    You don’t have to order and you don’t have to eat but don’t complain when you get your share of the bill.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  96. If I conceded that Trump and Clinton were poisons I would consider the former water soluble and the latter fat soluble.

    Or as Seinfeld put it one’s fast acting and the other is long lasting.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  97. i hate her long-lasting fat guts

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. Wait until the MSM discovers that nobody who majored in Poli Sci at Columbia during the Barack Years recalls having a class with Barack — but they all remember seeing Wayne Allen Root in class.
    And wait until the MSM finds out that Dreams From my Father was ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.
    They’ll have to take some of the bloodhounds who are still in Wasilla digging up dirt on Sarah Palin, and put them hot on the trail of Ayers.
    That trail may unearth the fact that Ayers was a domestic terrorist who hates America and Israel!
    All MSM hell will break loose, then!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  99. “Hillary will win all the swing states because she has this thing called a political campaign operation.”

    You are wrong.

    You will acknowledge you are wrong after the election. But you will continue both being wrong and confident about that which you are clearly wrong.

    Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/28/2016 @ 5:38 pm

    My guess is he loses by 3-4% in the popular vote. However I don’t have a good political prognosticating record, so my prediction could be taken as a contrary indicator.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  100. President Trump will win by a wide margin because hillary is so nasty

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  101. Speaking of political operations, I wonder if the RNC has recognized the need to have a massive push to target non-college educated whites for voter registration and GOTV. If they’re competent, the answer is yes but…

    Gerald A (76f251)

  102. Bill H

    You don’t have to order and you don’t have to eat but don’t complain when you get your share of the bill.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9) — 7/28/2016 @ 5:43 pm

    That’s the point- I’ll be paying my share no matter what.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  103. “I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fu*k with me, I’ll kill you all.”

    — General James Mattis

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/28/2016 @ 5:35 pm

    A notable quote from a Marine’s Marine. I forget- was he forcibly retired, or did he just come to the end of his service?

    Bill H (971e5f)

  104. 96.
    The Democrats have this thing called Get Out The Vote.
    The Republicans have one as well. And generally whichever one has the best GOTV is the one that wins.

    Trump has basically said he doesn’t believe in GOTV and will rely on his incredible charisma to motivate voters.

    Those who actively want Trump to win had better hope thus turns out to be another promise he abandons on the wayside.

    kishnevi (4db091)

  105. My guess is he loses by 3-4% in the popular vote. However I don’t have a good political prognosticating record, so my prediction could be taken as a contrary indicator.

    Gerald A (76f251) — 7/28/2016 @ 6:08 pm

    The guy you want to pay attention to is Nate Silver. He tends to be correct more often than not.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  106. 101.
    Tomorrow’s headlines
    Most corrupt candidate in American history accepts nomination.

    (Well Aaron Burr and others might contest that title, but they never got to span the globe with their bribetaking.)

    (BTW, anyone here not know the origin of the word “candidate”?)

    kishnevi (4db091)

  107. Here’s the thing, idiots. I don’t “virtue signal.” I mean what I say and I don’t care whether you like it or not. But when you accuse me of lying, which is what “virtue signaling” is, by your connotations, you prove you don’t know jack about me. You also prove that your respectability level is below that of the skunk I flattened a few miles back.

    John Hitchcock (694fe4)

  108. Those who actively want Trump to win had better hope thus turns out to be another promise he abandons on the wayside.

    kishnevi (4db091) — 7/28/2016 @ 6:23 pm

    I keep repeating this: those that want Trump so very much had better get out there and make it happen. Without a GOTV operation, it’s going to fall on the True Believers to make him Prez. The sooner they understand that, the smarter their boy looks.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  109. Last I heard he predicted a Trump 285 EV victory but Clinton winning the popular vote. That’s the low end of my July 28 prediction.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  110. we know there is actual evil in the world, that the opposition candidate has been a party to, looting an earthquake ravaged nation, enabling boko haram by proxy, the whole sordid libya mess, similar skullduggery in india, and russia, and a dozen other countries, focus on that,

    narciso (732bc0)

  111. John, I hope you are using a voice enabled blue tooth.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  112. Trump will win the popular vote by at least 5 points.

    Denver Guy (4750ec)

  113. but I’m sure he stiffed the policeman’s ball or something,

    https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/758827491309916160

    narciso (732bc0)

  114. Last I heard he predicted a Trump 285 EV victory but Clinton winning the popular vote. That’s the low end of my July 28 prediction.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/28/2016 @ 6:35 pm

    Considering his Democrat background, that shouldn’t be a difficult stretch for Trump. He could even incorporate some of Sir Hillary’s less controversial points.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  115. @101 Cruz Supporter

    That may be discovered 2000 years hence in the sands of the Valley of the Tyrants.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  116. e pleb nista, or see you in the forbidden zone,

    narciso (732bc0)

  117. For those of you so sure Trump will win: I guess you don’t mind if me and those like me don’t vote for him… or even vote against him. I guess if he needed our votes after all you guys were always wrong about Trump anyway.

    Cool beans!

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl's Jr™!) (ba94b2)

  118. WTF?! Multi-millionaire sinnger Katy Perry just reminded us how uneducated she is, then asked people to donate $ to Hillary– in an arena named after a bank– Wells Fargo??? These people are disconnected from reality. And now, Chelsea The Ugly fills the screen…

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  119. I hope President Carter is still around in November to insure the integrity of this election.

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  120. ..cancelled out by Bernie sickout, Stein surge and Johnson taking more from D than R.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  121. it looks like we might have the confluence of events of 2000, on steroids, oh frabjous joy,

    narciso (732bc0)

  122. Life’s a bitch as it is… so why vote for one?

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  123. Actually at the moment Silver is calling it almost dead even, but most recent trends are favoring Trump.
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-why-our-model-is-bullish-on-trump-for-now/

    But the actual forecast currently shown picks Clinton to win both electoral and popular votes by small margins, probably the smallest margin since the start of the 21st century.

    *Is it pedantic to note that 2000 was the last year of the 20th century?

    kishnevi (4db091)

  124. what’s she going to do, denounce her parents, that’s what republicans are expected to do, I mean she’s ‘mostly harmless’ except as the respectable front for the foundation,

    narciso (732bc0)

  125. I happened to be flipping thru the channels and I run across Eleanor Roosevelt addressing the DNC!!! Is that a hologram or just CGI?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  126. 124
    I can always sign up for Nefesh b’Nefesh. But you’re stuck with it…

    kishnevi (4db091)

  127. I wonder if Gary Johnson might be able to chip away enough votes from Hillary in New Mexico (5 EVs) and Colorado (9 EVs). Especially with the whole libertarian marijuana ‘thing.’
    He ran in 2012, and got about 3.5% in NM, and about 1.5% in CO.
    But I imagine most people didn’t even know he was running in 2012.
    This year, more people will know he’s running and see him as a viable option because there’s so many people frustrated with both Trump and Clinton.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  128. Don’t know, Bill, but that may have been the case. Too much of a man for these hyenas.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  129. There’s always hope that it ends up in a totally gridlocked House, and the Senate gives us Pence as Acting President.

    kishnevi (4db091)

  130. #126 kishnevi,

    No, it’s definitely not pedantic to note that the year 2000 was still part of the 20th century.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  131. yes, that will work out, there will be issues of legitimacy,

    narciso (732bc0)

  132. Coronello @95, I bet he had air cover though.

    Conspicuous by its absence from the “I come in peace” speech.

    Steve57 (2d3b12)

  133. true but he was ambushed in the halls of mcdill, and al ubaid air base, because he would not go along with the fiction that the sepah are our friends,

    narciso (732bc0)

  134. Probably, Steve… Probably…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  135. Bill H

    Fair enough, but if you stiff the wait staff you’re dead to me.

    That’s a Hillary/democrat voter move.

    Pinandpuller (a12946)

  136. Tonight, the pantsuit matches the carpet, eh Bill.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  137. There’s always hope that it ends up in a totally gridlocked House, and the Senate gives us Pence as Acting President.

    kishnevi (4db091) — 7/28/2016 @ 7:32 pm

    Cribbing from John Lennon:

    “All we are say-ing,
    is give Pence a chance!!”

    Bill H (971e5f)

  138. 130, Johnson should see how much of a machine Gov. Martinez has on top of his loyalists plus Bernites and to see if he could use that coalition to eke out a plurality win.

    urbanleftbehind (810412)

  139. back in 2000, there was a tie in new mexico, broken by a coin toss,

    narciso (732bc0)

  140. This is what the Cruz fan boys are covering tonight with the Hillary speech?

    Dear god.

    Rodney King's Spirit (d28741)

  141. I wish Pence were at the top of the ticket and I’d go to bed early on election night if Kaine were the default. Instead of impeachment/assassination insurance both of these fossils got impeachment assassination incentives for VPs.

    nk (dbc370)

  142. Illinois has a “by lot” provision for ties, too, and the last time they went with coin toss in a suburban election.

    nk (dbc370)

  143. both of these fossils got impeachment assassination incentives for VP

    And one of them is sponsored by the same people who brought the world suicide bombers.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  144. RKS,

    You are mad that someone is pointing out the Trump campaign lied to the American people. I hope you’re getting plenty of water if you’re going to cry every time this happens.

    Dustin (Brought to you by Carl's Jr™!) (ba94b2)

  145. She is woman, hear her bore,
    Cackling loud from shore to shore…

    A meandering snoozer, Hillary.

    A PARTY THAT OPENS ITS CONVENTION SHOWCASING ILLEGAL ALIENS AS FEATURED SPEAKERS ON NATIONAL TV COAST TO COAST IS NOT A PARTY THAT IS GOOD FOR AMERICA’S FUTURE.

    My God, I’m voting Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  146. The past 7 1/2 yrs of the Bush Administration have been awful.
    We need Hillary to implement some good old fashioned left wing Democrat big government solutions to cure our nation’s ills.
    There aren’t enough good jobs to go around, and people are dying in the streets due to a lack of health care. The oceans are rising, too — why has the President sat idly while that’s happening?!
    There’ve been a number of recent shootings on American soil, no doubt fueled by a President who says things which make people angry.

    And ISIS says it’s never been more motivated to hit America.

    So why haven’t Bush and Cheney been impeached yet?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  147. Of course, I am prejudiced, but that Hillary speech was horrible. Plus, could the crowd be less excited? It looks like a Elks convention when everyone is already too drunk to care.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  148. Patterico will be voting for Hillary.

    She had a better convention… my God just look at the balloons and ticker tape, all Red White and Blue…. THIS must be AMERICA!!!

    Hillary is smiling and kissing children.. OH MY GOD WHAT A HUMAN BEING!!!

    Hillary has a very big tent and she will love for Patterico to join her!!!

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  149. And one of them is sponsored by the same people who brought the world suicide bombers.

    Now, now, papertiger. I don’t like Trump, but fair is fair. He only does business with them. He’s not sponsored by them.

    nk (dbc370)

  150. 147
    More interesting to me
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-ally-apologizes-calling-jewish-settlers-termites/
    Two days old. If you posted this and I missed it, apologies.

    kishnevi (4db091)

  151. al rashid, alamoudi, the last of the juffali brothers, the olayan clan, she’s got the whole set of magnates,

    narciso (732bc0)

  152. Joy Reid on MSNBC: “Hillary did a good job of being both soft and strong.”

    Just like toilet paper.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. At least Huma got to get some lovin’ in on national TV. Carlos is miffed.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  154. things took a shameful turn during a spirited cover of Woody Guthrie’s ‘This Land is Your Land’ when Lady Gaga spontaneously decided to crowd surf the Democrat convention.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  155. OK, I’m watching MSNBC and this is the saddest post-candidate speech reaction I’ve ever seen at a convention, GOP or Dem.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  156. ok, first don’t do that, second if you can’t win over the zombie hordes over there,

    narciso (732bc0)

  157. Its going to be like when Ricky Bobby and Jean Girard crashed on the final stretch and Cal Naughton Jr came from out of nowhere to win Talladega.

    Pinandpuller (a12946)

  158. so who’s cal naughton in this scenario?

    narciso (732bc0)

  159. During the RNC I had to hunt for a channel covering it.

    The DNC is like an aggressive pan handler. Try to avoid it.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  160. well there was a bond marathon on starz, but you have go aways to avoid the minitrue,

    narciso (732bc0)

  161. on the street the DNC calls out to a stranger across way.

    “Can I have a smoke? I see you have a smoke there. Any spare change?”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  162. I’m going to make a play for the black vote here. Get ready.

    Here it comes.

    how white that girl was> You could see the blood flowing in her veins.

    Translucent. Wrapped in Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak.

    Okay. I’m done.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  163. Another abysmal attempt at simulating a thinking adult by the proprietor.

    What an embarrassment.

    DNF (755a85)

  164. Didn’t somebody else say “America is great because America is good” before Hillary Clinton did tonight?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-tocqueville-fraud/article/8100

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville

    Rpnald Reagan, who attributed it, incorrectly, to Alexis de Toqueville, as it had been attributed at least since 1922, but did not invent it himself.

    That actually could have been developed into a good argument – e.g. that things Donald Trump recommends are not good – but it was a one-liner.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  165. “America is great because America is good.”-HRC

    Who did she crib that from, John Adams?

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  166. Here’s Hillary waiting back stage for her queue.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  167. @142 narciso

    Was it a string tie?

    Pinandpuller (a12946)

  168. she doesn’t believe in detocqueville, he was everything she’s been against, she’s hated cops since the alex rackley affair at yale, and the military for nearly as long,

    narciso (732bc0)

  169. @162 papertiger

    Becky with the good hair?

    Pinandpuller (928ad9)

  170. 169.“America is great because America is good.”-HRC

    Pinandpuller (928ad9) — 7/28/2016 @ 9:32 pm

    Who did she crib that from, John Adams?

    Ronald Reagan. Who said it came from Alexis de Tocqueville but it was apparently invented by someone early in the Twentieth Century.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  171. @145 nk

    That makes sense since Lot turned towards Sodom.

    Pinandpuller (a12946)

  172. @ PTS: You really need to sharpen your game if you’re going to get under our host’s skin.

    I’d suggest throwing in some judicious “Nanny-nanny-boo-boo!” taunts. Those always sting. I know he’s very vulnerable to, and sensitive about being told by someone, “I’m rubber and you’re glue ….” But you’re going to have to Google that to get the rest of the taunt, I can’t do everything for you.

    I do hope you’ll continue, however, since your repartee is dazzling, your logic compelling, and I think you probably are going to get several new opportunities to get laid, just based on the personality you’re showing us here online.

    But seriously. Say it with me, practice before you actually type it: “Nanny-nanny boo-boo Patterico, you have Hillary Cooties and I don’t!”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  173. Side by side comparison (jpg) between Chelsea Clinton and Webster Hubbell.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  174. The #MaybeHillary crowd is conspicuously quiet tonight! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  175. Whose your daddy? (YouTube)

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  176. no they are not, of all the things that matter in a world where cops are being slain with the open cooperation of the party of the anointed one, where priests are beheaded, but she is silent, where the people languish in a limbo of perpetual unemployment, this is the carp that concerns you, that is the point,

    narciso (732bc0)

  177. I on the otherhand, think I manage to capture the stature and comportment of the occasion rather well.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  178. Oh boo hoo paterico. Your candidate lost. Trump sucks. We get it. Old news. Get over it already and post something worth reading. This place is a cesspool of worthless content

    Gil (252812)

  179. She says she’s against global warming, but it’s the sun she avoids.
    White as a street mime.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  180. Then leave, dumbass. It’s still a free country – at least til next January.

    Leviticus (bdf402)

  181. Gil is upset at the content.

    Well Gil there was announcement that Patterico is swamped by work in the real world. Easy to miss.

    He begs your pardon and hopes for your continued patience until the situation clears.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  182. or as he put it. “I hate everybody.” lol

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  183. the problem lay in using the puffington host as a starting place, an enterprise conjured for low motives, with a misleading premise, the site is cached but not gone, and category error moves on from there,

    narciso (732bc0)

  184. http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/huntsman-lincoln-and-hallmark/

    Reagan, July 25, 1986: America is great because America is good. And if America ever stops being good, America will stop being great. …

    Dwight D. Eisenhower used the quote in 1952. Ike liked it so much he used it at least three times and attributed it to “a wise philosopher” (1952), “a wise French visitor” (1953) and “a wise philosopher — a Frenchman — [who] came to this land” (1956).

    http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/america_is_great_because_she_is_good/

    Reverend John McDowell used the alleged quotation in a sermon on Labor Day weekend in September 1922 in New York City. It is not known where McDowell got the quotation from, but similar (though not exact) quotations have been found from 1886 and 1908.

    The 1886 quote is in Empty Pews & Selections from Other Sermons on Timely Topics, Madison Clinton Peters; Zeising, 1886, p. 35 and it’s definitely an earlier version of the same quote. There the idea was America was good because people attended church. Made up because it is not an idea
    de Tocqueville had. Eisenhower use3d it in his speech ending his campaign in 1952. t might have bene taken from abook published in 1941.

    Barry Popik writes Ronald Reagan first used it in 1982

    “though his speechwriter hedged by attributing it to Eisenhower’s quotation of Tocqueville. Two years later, Reagan declared that Tocqueville “is said to have observed that ‘America is great because America is good.’” Thereafter, his speechwriters grew less careful, and several subsequent Reagan addresses quoted from the passage without any qualifications. At this point, it started showing up with greater frequency in political rhetoric.”

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  185. @162 narciso

    That’s the big question.

    Pinandpuller (3ab10a)

  186. Your bitterness at being on the losing team is keeping the fun in visiting this last bastion of ‘true conservatism’.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  187. (BTW, anyone here not know the origin of the word “candidate”?)

    I didn’t; thanks for getting me to look it up.

    Milhouse (0f3c4e)

  188. Me neither. I knew that Roman candidates wore a white toga (and, according to Shakespeare, no tunic underneath so people could see their battle scars) but I did not know “candidus” meant “white”.

    nk (dbc370)


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